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Due to the incomprehensible history, which unfolded around Navalny, on the "Voennoye Obozreniye" published a whole series of articles devoted to this giant of thought and the father of Russian democracy.


But most of all, I was struck by the numerous comments from witnesses to the fight against corruption of the mentioned character. Even, they say, even if he is a villain, but this is our villain! And for his holy mission of freeing Russia from corrupt officials, you can close your eyes to many things.

But in this article we will try to figure out whether Alexey is very different from those whom he so selflessly criticizes. Are we not witnessing the struggle of flies against ... that is, bees against honey?

Everyone knows the stories with Kirovles and Yves Rocher. And I think no one is interested in reading about Alexei's participation in trivial fraudulent schemes investigated by the courts. However, I propose to analyze several episodes little-known to the general public from the activities of Mr. Navalny.

Many have heard about the non-profit organization Anti-Corruption Foundation, which was founded by Navalny. Judging by the reports on the targeted use of funds by the Fund, this organization lives quite modestly and in 2019 attracted donations for 89,7 million rubles, in 2018 - 58,8 million rubles, in 2017 - 80,4 million rubles.

Navalny. The mind, honor and conscience of our era?

Now let us recall that on March 18, 2018, the presidential elections in Russia took place, and what a stormy self-promotion campaign Alexei launched at that time.

But then the question will arise: is it possible to "shake the regime" for some 80-100 million rubles? Is Navalny such a genius of public relations and, having spent a penny (in the scale of the presidential race, this is not much), he organized such an information campaign that we constantly hear about high-profile investigations, the opening of more and more headquarters of a self-candidate?

I think his followers are sure of precisely such extraordinary qualities of their idol. But is it really so? Let's try to figure it out (I just want to warn you that I don't cover many of the nuances so as not to overload readers with unnecessary information. You need to focus on the essence of the issue).

In fact, a happy and bright person who sends his money to the noble cause of fighting corruption is unaware of the fact that, for example, during the presidential campaign, his donation was sent straight to the accounts of another organization - the Fifth Seasons Foundation, and then to the personal bank card of the head of Navalny's campaign headquarters, Leonid Volkov.


The further route of this money became known largely thanks to the efforts of the lawyer and member of the Public Chamber of Russia Ilya Remeslo, who, with his appeals, gave impetus to the Ministry of Justice's appeal to the court on the liquidation of the Fifth Season of the Year fund, in which Volkov acted as director.


What was established in the court hearings regarding the "Fifth Season"?

Firstly, everyone was immediately interested in more serious donations for several months of 2017.According to the data published by Volkov himself, the amount of donations received in his name amounted to more than 204 million rubles:


But the Fifth Season of the Year fund, from which Alexei's campaign was paid, received only 96,8 million rubles:


Please note that the money to the fund very often got to the contributions of the employees of the Navalny Foundations themselves:

From R. Shaveddinov (press secretary of Navalny's campaign) - 15,5 million rubles.





From FBK Director R. Rubanov - 4 million rubles.

A. Chekhovich, an employee of the FBK accounting department - 17,3 million rubles.

Where did these respected and (without any doubt) bright and honest citizens, who have not stained themselves with corruption and machinations, have the means for such contributions? Great question.

Secondly, the fund's expenses aroused the same interest.

According to the case file, the costs amounted to a little over 96 million rubles.


But do donators really need to know honest spending figures? Of course not. Therefore, Volkov publishes a beautiful and vivid report, in which he gives a completely different amount:


After all, gentlemen take their word for it! And who will count money and tire himself with honest reports when the fight against universal evil is at stake!

Will any of Alexei's benefactors ask why the 195 million rubles of expenses from a beautiful and bright report are almost 100 million rubles less than the figures from the documents presented by FBK in court (96,4 million rubles)? Of course not!

As a result, on January 22, 2018, by a court decision, the Fifth Seasons Foundation was liquidated for numerous violations. According to Navalny, of course, because of the struggle with his personality. And the “loss” of 100 million rubles has nothing to do with it.

But there is another side to the issue. If someone believes that the facts investigated at the above-described court interested law enforcement agencies, then he is deeply mistaken. No one even made an attempt to investigate who got into their pockets this money intended to fight corruption. Nobody even tried to determine whether there is a fraudulent nature in the withdrawal of funds that had a targeted purpose. This is how the authorities are "fighting" with Navalny.

In addition, I would like to return to the fund's expenses:


Payments under civil contracts - 42,7 million rubles.

Other expenses - 36,3 million rubles.

Why did I ask you to return attention to these amounts? In an interview with K. Sobchak on the Dozhd TV channel, Alexei Navalny argued that the main source of his income is the activities of his individual entrepreneur.

And so, in my estimated (exclusively subjective) opinion, money under civil law contracts, contracts for “other” expenses from FBK, “Fifth Season of the Year”, etc. organizations, quite possibly tens of millions, flow to IP Navalny A. A. Or directly, or through another 1-2 links of the chain. Whether this is so is unknown, because law enforcement officers, known for their fear and hatred of Navalny, have never investigated these flows. But money laundering under such agreements is one of the simplest and favorite schemes for fraudsters of all levels.

But this is just one episode from the activities of Alexei Navalny and the companies swarming around FBK and his modest person.


That is why I am always extremely bewildered by those commentators who perceive the “talking head”, reading the compromising evidence from one group to another, as a martyr, a fighter with himself and at least some honest person.

Well, who would talk about the fight against corruption, but not A. Navalny!

And for those who continue to believe that the authorities are fighting with all their might with all their might, I would like to propose to try to find an answer to two simple questions:

1. Do you know at least one other person whom the authorities dream of imprisoning, and a person sentenced to a suspended sentence, who at the second trial receives not a real, but a second suspended sentence?

2. Do you know at least one other person who was twice sentenced to a suspended sentence, continues to constantly break the law and receives a passport for multiple trips abroad on vacation instead of a real term?

The problem is that (in my subjective and evaluative opinion) the authorities protected and protected Alexei with all their might, creating for him the image of the main oppositionist and fighter against the regime. So in the end we got the priest Gapon (yes, I am aware of the various versions) and Grishka Otrepiev in one person!

Well, in order not to end the story on such a sad note, I want to share with you one observation. All "oppositionists", becoming media persons, are more like notorious mannequins. Further, it seems to me, the same consultants are trying to create their image according to the Western templates of a “popular” politician: open gestures, correct accents in the structure of sentences (for example, Lesha, when he says “I count”, immediately corrects himself: “I'm sure ", As in the debate with Posner on" Rain "), the correct movement on the stage and the ability to find the right angle for the photo. But all these bulk, wolves, going through the Yale program Maurice R. Greenberg World Fellows Program together with their curators, did not understand that gestures, rhetoric, behavioral image should be set for everyone taking into account individual characteristics, and not create clones that look like a robot Werther from the famous feature film.

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And I would also like to ask you to choose a topic for the next article. Don't be lazy - vote for one of three topics!

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Theme 2. How government customers eliminate unwanted companies that want to participate in government auctions. Description of the main techniques used by government customers to win the right company in the auction for a government order. How you can avoid these tricks.

Theme 3. Housing and communal services. The population is actually overpaying or underpaying for utility tariffs. This topic is more difficult to grasp. It explains what cross-subsidization is and how these tariffs are calculated and approved.
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  1. AML
    AML 24 September 2020 10: 03
    +2
    Well, yes, Navalny's topic is just the main one at VO. Let's also discuss a Guest from the future - many remember, many love
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 10: 06
      +5
      Yes, now it is a trend to discuss the personality of Navalny and the financing of FBK, and not the essence of his investigations.
      1. nnm
        24 September 2020 10: 07
        14
        Do you seriously believe that he is conducting some kind of investigation?)))
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 10: 10
          +5
          Yes. And I perfectly understand, for whose money. And I think they give him information from there.
          But this does not change the essence of who Navalny is shooting his videos about.
          1. nnm
            24 September 2020 10: 12
            11
            So wait ....
            Agree, it's one thing:
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            the essence of his investigations.

            And something completely different:
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            shoots his videos

            For the question immediately arises:
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            whose money

            ? Who is behind him and what goals he pursues.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 10: 31
              15
              Well, what are you with me as a child - if I understand where the money comes from, then I certainly understand the goal.
              Once again, this does not change the essence of those about whom the videos are. The power itself is to blame, it itself gives a reason to poke its nose into a dirty underwear. Movie characters should be in prison, not in high offices.
              1. nnm
                24 September 2020 10: 37
                10
                I agree. But does this somehow whitewash the bulk? That is, we admit a situation in which Navalny himself became in power - will something change? Is he somehow different from the heroes of his videos?
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 10: 38
                  19
                  No, it does not whitewash. In my vision of the future, both Navalny and the heroes of his videos should stand in a crowd in front of the firing squad.
                  1. nnm
                    24 September 2020 10: 39
                    +4
                    That is the problem - in fact, we have "opposition" - the same Fabergés that we already have. And as now there is no real fight against corruption, and it will not be with the change of power to "opposition". And it turns out some kind of vicious circle.
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 10: 42
                      +6
                      Quote: nnm
                      we have "opposition"

                      We have a normal opposition, but they only talk about Navalny. What's wrong with Platoshkin, Grudinin, even Saratov Bondarenko?
                      1. nnm
                        24 September 2020 10: 50
                        +4
                        I am not familiar with the political program of Platoshkin, but from what I saw on TV in a show with his participation - an ordinary bawker, instantly breaking into hysterics. In addition to general words - I have not heard from him any clear calculations - where do we get the money, where we distribute it, what effect we get, etc. But I repeat - I am familiar only in part of his performances on TV. Grudinin .... well, when a billionaire pretends to be a communist, having created his capital on the sale of real estate (very interesting how he got it) - well, it's just not serious. But I admit, when they just started to push him with all their might from above - he immediately aroused sympathy in me. And to be honest, I have not heard about Bondarenko. But in fact, you are right - there are 140+ million people in the country, and when they say that there is no one to change the government, it's just ridiculous.
                      2. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 11: 05
                        12
                        Quote: nnm
                        Grudinin ... well, when a billionaire pretends to be a communist,

                        Now China is successfully combining the two systems, catching up with the US GDP.
                        And the billions of Grudininsky are all in the assets of the state farm, in school, in a kindergarten. A person REALLY lives in the same high-rise building as the ordinary workers of the state farm. Naturally, his apartment is larger.
                        Do you know where the head of the state corporation Chemezov lives? wink
                      3. vka
                        vka 25 September 2020 02: 28
                        +3
                        holy, holy - except that the halo above your head does not glow 11111 negative
                      4. CSKA
                        CSKA 25 September 2020 11: 09
                        0
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        And the billions of Grudininsky are all in the assets of the state farm

                        ))))) Laughed. Have you heard of his accounts in Switzerland and Liechtenstein?
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Do you know where the head of the state corporation Chemezov lives?

                        We compared the state farm with a corporation with a net profit of 2 billion dollars last year.
                      5. nnm
                        25 September 2020 20: 19
                        0
                        Ingvar, in fact, these two systems cannot be combined in any way, if we talk about the classical interpretation, primarily in matters of ownership and exploitation in the private sector. rather, it is correct to say (if we take the analogies of Trotsky, of whom I am not a supporter) that in China the state has become the main capitalist. Therefore, having a plan for the profitability of state-owned companies in China, one cannot talk about a communist or socialist system.
                    2. vic02
                      vic02 24 September 2020 11: 13
                      +9
                      In addition to general words - I have not heard any clear calculations from him - where do we get the money, where do we distribute it, what effect we get, etc.
                      Platoshkin is not an economist; there is Potapenko, Glazyev, Delyagin. Have you heard a lot of analyzes from Putin? On the other hand, the current government, appointed by Putin, is large "experts" in sharing with the effects and the subsequent free export of capital to offshores. So this year the billionaire was saved. But Putin shames the "partners" of the same government for not cutting off access to technology. Where are ours?
                    3. Malyuta
                      Malyuta 24 September 2020 12: 08
                      14
                      Quote: nnm
                      Grudinin ... well, when a billionaire pretends to be a communist, creating his capital on the sale of real estate (it's very interesting how he got it) - well, it's just not serious

                      I am very sorry, colleague, but where does this data come from?

                      PySy. Regarding the voting, all the topics are interesting.
                      On the third topic, I can immediately say that housing and communal services are profitable even with 3% of non-payments! In housing and communal services, all schemes, without exception, are muddy, tariffs are not even sucked out of the finger, the wear of networks is 50-70%, money is not invested in modernization, and payments through correspondent accounts mostly go offshore.
                      Won 2 courts from the Criminal Code.
                    4. nnm
                      24 September 2020 13: 50
                      +4
                      A muddy topic is not the right word. But about profitability with 50% of payments is far from a fact.
                    5. Malyuta
                      Malyuta 24 September 2020 14: 00
                      15
                      Quote: nnm
                      A muddy topic is not the right word. But about profitability with 50% of payments is far from a fact.

                      Until you have researched the topic, then this is not a fact for you.
                      Citizens generally have little idea of ​​who and what they are paying for. About the formation of tariffs is a separate topic and an unprepared person can go crazy, plunging into formulas and calculations.
                      Colleague, study the materiel, then we will discuss. hi
                    6. nnm
                      24 September 2020 14: 06
                      +4
                      If I did not know her, as they say, from the inside, I would not offer her for consideration. hi
                      And about tariffs I will try to tell everything in pictures)))) without reaching the basic formulas))) because the way the tariff itself is considered is technology. And she is not interesting to the majority. But to show what expenses are included in the tariff is easier.
                    7. Malyuta
                      Malyuta 24 September 2020 14: 23
                      17
                      Quote: nnm
                      If I did not know her, as they say, from the inside, I would not offer her for consideration.

                      Well, if so, then let's in the article and "check our watches."
                      It seems that it will be useful for patriotic citizens to learn how they are bred thinner. laughing
                      Unfortunately, I can not post the documents from the court case, treat this with understanding repeat
                    8. nnm
                      24 September 2020 14: 26
                      +3
                      Agreed. It's always more interesting to see a problem from different angles.
                    9. nnm
                      25 September 2020 21: 21
                      +2
                      Colleague, I've been preparing for this topic all week, but it turned out that I have to start with Rosneftegaz))
                    10. Malyuta
                      Malyuta 25 September 2020 22: 01
                      16
                      Quote: nnm
                      Oleg, I was preparing for this topic all week, but it turned out that I had to start with Rosneftegaz))

                      The majority opinion is definitely more important! And we will discuss our topic with you, I hope. yes drinks
                    11. nnm
                      25 September 2020 22: 13
                      +2
                      Necessarily, friend! I promise.
    2. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 24 September 2020 11: 08
      -2
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      What's wrong with Platoshkin, Grudinin


      Grudinin is silent, so he is not an opposition at all. Platoshkin is sitting.
    3. Yaroslavl
      Yaroslavl 24 September 2020 11: 53
      +6
      but it is so convenient for them to talk only about him ... they tactfully do not notice these ... it is unprofitable for them and not to their face ... they clung to one character untwisted in quotation marks (although I would note that his investigation videos, as a bone in the throat of many thieves from the authorities) and make a hype ... Meanwhile, Platoshkin is sitting, they are silent about this ... Bondarenko shut their mouths in the Saratov Duma and can also jail ... not a word about this
    4. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 24 September 2020 14: 35
      +4
      A noticeable fact is that while Grudinin was not nominated for president, the authorities did not touch him, but as soon as he got nominated, the authorities immediately dragged him through the courts. Conclusion: everyone who can really remove Putin from power for some reason has problems, even fatal, have not thought about it?
    5. CSKA
      CSKA 25 September 2020 11: 16
      -1
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      A notable fact - while Grudinin was not nominated for the presidency, the authorities did not touch him, but as soon as he was nominated, the authorities immediately dragged him through the courts

      What are you? Since when are the state farm shareholders this power?
    6. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 25 September 2020 13: 00
      +1
      Well, these shareholders were silent for ten years, but as the team acted, they acted right away, and by the way, not all, only a few lackeys.
    7. CSKA
      CSKA 28 September 2020 16: 22
      -2
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      Well, these shareholders were silent for ten years, but as the team acted, they acted right away, and by the way, not all, only a few lackeys.

      Again. Are they power? The fact that they were silent there before, and filed a lawsuit now with their case, from this they did not begin to relate to the authorities.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 24 September 2020 11: 19
    +4
    it turns out some kind of vicious circle.
    ... But he doesn't work, he did. And not only in our country, in the entire capitalist world. They have the same thing, the opposition is screaming, let's say, about corruption, but comes to power, does the same.
  • aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 27 September 2020 15: 23
    -1
    Quote: nnm
    And as now there is no real fight against corruption, and it will not be with the change of government to "opposition"

    how can money be used to fight bribery (corruption)? wassat From the point of view of corrupt officials and their breadwinners, this is convenient. Gave money to solve the problem.
    We need a system that excludes the will of an official; this is a state task. Right now, Mercury, before I gave small bribes, now I don't even see them, permission is given automatically.
  • Victorio
    Victorio 24 September 2020 10: 56
    0
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    both Navalny and the heroes of his videos must stand in a crowd in front of the firing squad.

    ===
    familiar, familiar. "The revolution, like the god Saturn, devours its children"
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 24 September 2020 11: 25
      +2
      And the counter-revolution does not eat its children, does it go hungry? smile
      1. nnm
        25 September 2020 21: 27
        0
        Yes, that's not the point ... look at the whole quote and you will understand ..
  • KMS
    KMS 24 September 2020 18: 31
    0
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    No, it does not whitewash. In my vision of the future, both Navalny and the heroes of his videos should stand in a crowd in front of the firing squad.

    Say the truth Igor! All of them are from the same gang, and Navalny and K (who is behind him) just want to take their place at the trough and redistribute the property .. But this noise is already so annoying ... Navalny, Tikhanovskys, Guaidos, Biden, etc. Rest only in our dreams
  • nnm
    25 September 2020 21: 15
    +1
    Ingvar, good. And who in your vision should be on the back of the butt? As I understand it, plateoshkin, sternin, etc.?
  • Dym71
    Dym71 24 September 2020 11: 01
    +3
    Quote: nnm
    But does this somehow whitewash the bulk?

    Igor explains to you completely for another, Navalny does not interest him.
  • vic02
    vic02 24 September 2020 10: 55
    10
    Take for example: poisoning of children in school canteens and kindergartens in Moscow due to the supply of rotten food by a company controlled by Prigozhin. Do you think that the court's decision on the payment of compensation to the victims, whose interests were represented by FBK in court, is not the result of the investigation?
    1. nnm
      24 September 2020 11: 04
      +5
      Not really ... There are about 1 million schoolchildren in Moscow. Claims spurred by FBK were filed by about 30 people ... Therefore, I would not consider this as some kind of systemic fact (I'm talking about low-quality products). Is this possible, in principle? Yes, of course, because for the sake of profit, capital will go to whatever. And he doesn't care if it's children or who. Am I sure that Lesha Gora did not give birth to a mouse? - no, I'm not sure.
      On the contrary, some kind of "zilch", not an investigation. But regarding the property of officials - yes, everything is much more interesting. But I'm not saying that he is lying in his videos - I just say that he is no different from those criticized, he is simply a copy of them. Well, plus, that he simply voices the information received. No more. There is no question of investigations there.
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 24 September 2020 14: 39
        -1
        The author, but who, besides Alexei in Russia, is still fighting corruption in the upper echelons of power?
        1. nnm
          24 September 2020 14: 59
          +3
          Forgive me, when I read these praises to Lesha, just another inspection act, which I read for my employees before transferring them to the prosecutor's office, I did not pour coffee))))
          As it is sung about colleagues next door - "... and at first glance, as if not visible"))). It's just that there are people who every day to the best of their ability try to contain this wave, and there are windbags like Lesha - the dog barks, and the caravan moves on. And if you recalculate how much real workers stop money from corruption, how much they force to return to the budget and compare with the effect of Lesha, then the comparison will definitely not be in favor of the latter.
      2. Jura 27
        Jura 27 24 September 2020 16: 34
        +1
        [/ quote] I'm just saying that he is no different from those criticized, he is simply a copy of them. [quote]

        The difference is fundamental, like the north and south poles: Lyokha "steals" voluntary donations, and the persons involved in his investigations are the people's money, forcedly given in the form of taxes (and exclusively for good deeds, - defense there, medicine, etc.). It’s very strange that you don’t understand the elementary things, but undertake to write opuses.
        1. nnm
          24 September 2020 16: 38
          +2
          Quote: Jura 27
          Lyokha "steals" voluntary donations

          Ah, well then that is another matter !!!!! But when he comes to power, then, of course, he will stop stealing on the same day and will be the most honest in the world, like that Carlson!
        2. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 25 September 2020 07: 35
          +2
          Quote: Jura 27
          The difference is fundamental, like the north and south poles: Lyokha "steals" voluntary donations, and the people involved in his investigations are the people's money, forcedly given in the form of taxes
          The fundamental difference here exists only in your head. There is no her. The fundamental difference between the concepts "steals" and "does not steal". Everything else is from the evil one. Lesha steals wherever he can. There will be an opportunity to steal from the budget - he will steal there. In the meantime, there are only "voluntary donations". That's right, in quotes.
          He was caught stealing more than once. And they will also be caught. There would be a desire. But, unfortunately, it is an impossible dream to be caught stealing ... rations from a cellmate.
  • Hypertension
    Hypertension 24 September 2020 11: 21
    +5
    Dear Author! Both the first and third topics are equally interesting. And the second too, but less. Maybe you are somehow bigger and bigger? repeat
    1. nnm
      24 September 2020 13: 52
      +2
      You can))) There is simply not enough time. It's a hobby, in free time from work))
  • unaha
    unaha 24 September 2020 12: 45
    -2
    "Do you seriously believe that he is conducting some kind of investigation?)))" - even if he just voices the compromising evidence of the "towers" against each other, this is still a positive factor. At least someone performs, at least somehow, the function of public control.
    It would be great if this function was performed by other people and structures - with a crystal clear biography, without funding from abroad (in fantasy, yes?), But alas. I don't see candidates. However, if they do appear, I am sure they will quickly sit down or be forced to flee. At this stage, only "manual" "people's mouthpieces" are possible.
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 27 September 2020 12: 41
      -1
      Quote: unaha
      "Do you seriously believe that he is conducting some kind of investigation?)))" - even if he just voices the compromising evidence of the "towers" against each other, this is still a positive factor. At least someone performs, at least somehow, the function of public control.

      what functions? what kind of control ??? belay Nothing that Navalny publishes is suitable for legal application and has never had real legal consequences.
      this is pure hype, in connection with which we can confidently say that bulk is a windbag. request
  • credo
    credo 24 September 2020 11: 23
    +2
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Yes, now it is a trend to discuss the personality of Navalny and the financing of FBK, and not the essence of his investigations.

    Once I was on a train with a young guy who came to Moscow from another city to attend Navalny's "events".
    To my question about what he knows about the so-called FBK investigations and their results, he told me something in general terms about the "titanic" work of FBK and Navalny personally to uncover corruption in Russia, though I say nothing about the results of this work could not.
    When I told him about the same work and its numerous positive results by the forces of the domestic prosecutor's office, the FSB, the Investigative Committee and the police, which are often covered in the domestic media, for some reason he considered that their work was insignificant against the background of the "work" of FBK and Navalny, despite the fact that He knows little about the results of the "work" of FBK and Navalny.
    Now a question for you - "What results of the work of FBK and Navalny in the field of revealing corruption do you know and I do not know, as well as other doubters in the reality of this work?"
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 24 September 2020 11: 28
      +2
      Quote: credo
      When I told him about the same work and its many positive results by the forces of the domestic prosecutor's office, the FSB, the UK

      I can easily give a few examples only from my own life, when the police and the prosecutor's office absolutely ignored the gross violations of the law. So you shouldn't tell me about the successful work of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and
      etc. hi
      1. credo
        credo 24 September 2020 11: 49
        +1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: credo
        When I told him about the same work and its many positive results by the forces of the domestic prosecutor's office, the FSB, the UK

        I can easily give a few examples only from my own life, when the police and the prosecutor's office absolutely ignored the gross violations of the law. So you shouldn't tell me about the successful work of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and
        etc. hi

        Clear.
        But what about your story about the results of the work of FBK and Navalny.
        They have not forgotten about them or there is nothing to remember.
      2. nnm
        24 September 2020 17: 13
        +3
        So no one says that everyone around is white and fluffy, in the PM and in the law enforcement system. But in reality, what Lesha does is, in fact, to voice well-known things. Well, ok, the conditional official has a palace of 10 floors. Is there at least one person here who could not give such an address and the name of an official? Hardly. And he at least once showed where he got the funds for this, at least one financial ball unrolled inside and out, showing the entire system of withdrawing money? And no, not from companies that "as everyone knows" belong to this official, but so that law enforcement officers would have no choice how to initiate a case? No. There was no such thing. But in fact there are people who are constantly doing just this. Yes, it is difficult, but often without results, but sometimes it works, sometimes it just accumulates material, sometimes these financial flows are reflected ...

        But in the end, those who really do it are slaves of crooks and thieves, and Leshenka on a white horse ..
      3. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 25 September 2020 07: 41
        +1
        I can easily give a few examples only from my own life, when the police and the prosecutor's office absolutely ignored the gross violations of the law.
        Well, the issuance of a foreign passport to Navalny with two convictions is also one of such examples. True, for some reason this violation does not jar either Alyoshenka himself or his followers. Another such violation is the export of the carcass of this partagenose to Germany. Given that the borders seem to be not very open yet. And we actually have medicine.
        Why is this violation not condemned by the rippers of the veils? Some kind of selective adherence to principles.
    2. unaha
      unaha 24 September 2020 12: 54
      +3
      "The Supreme Court on its website published a cassation verdict on the complaint of the organizer of the Anti-Corruption Fund, Alexei Navalny. According to reliable facts, FBK applied to Rosreestr to issue extracts from the USRN in the names of the sons of Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation Yuri Chaika, in particular on Artyom and Igor. Imagine the surprise of the recipients of the extract from the USRN, when, instead of personal data, certain individuals appeared in the extract, which were referred to as LSDU3 (Artyom), as well as YFNU9 (Igor). The Supreme Supreme Court of the Russian Federation unexpectedly took the side of Rosreestr, which refers to the law "On personal data ", which allows non-disclosure of personal information on demand. Experts who fight corruption, assure that the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation has created a dangerous precedent that will allow Rosreestr to hide the true information about the owner of property rights."
      Isn't that the result? The fact that this result is negative is another matter. But investigations into the real estate of officials led to an attempt to deny access to the USRN, and when it did not work, to such a funny effect. No benefit, but funny.
      1. credo
        credo 24 September 2020 13: 03
        +3
        Quote: unaha
        "The Supreme Court on its website published a cassation verdict on the complaint of the organizer of the Anti-Corruption Fund, Alexei Navalny. According to reliable facts, FBK applied to Rosreestr to issue extracts from the USRN in the names of the sons of Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation Yuri Chaika, in particular on Artyom and Igor. Imagine the surprise of the recipients of the extract from the USRN, when, instead of personal data, certain individuals appeared in the extract, which were referred to as LSDU3 (Artyom), as well as YFNU9 (Igor). The Supreme Supreme Court of the Russian Federation unexpectedly took the side of Rosreestr, which refers to the law "On personal data ", which allows non-disclosure of personal information on demand. Experts who fight corruption, assure that the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation has created a dangerous precedent that will allow Rosreestr to hide the true information about the owner of property rights."
        Isn't that the result? The fact that this result is negative is another matter. But investigations into the real estate of officials led to an attempt to deny access to the USRN, and when it did not work, to such a funny effect. No benefit, but funny.

        And what's so funny about it?
        I am now interested in another question - Where is there in the law a reference to the fact that any non-official person (legal or physical) has the right to receive data on the presence of property in this or that person?
        Yes, now you can get an extract from the USRN for a real estate object, where data (full name or name) on the owner can be indicated, but I have not yet seen the right to receive information about all real estate objects for a particular person by a third party in the law and honestly speaking I would not want such a right to be granted to anyone, incl. FBK or Navalny.
        1. unaha
          unaha 24 September 2020 14: 44
          0
          “What's so funny about that?” - the reaction of interested parties.
          "the right to receive information about all real estate objects for this or that person" - there was no such right. There is information about the owner of a specific object through an extract.
      2. nnm
        25 September 2020 21: 29
        +3
        Believe it or not, I also want to receive a statement about Lyosha and Volkov's real estate in Luxembourg, but the damned capitalists refuse to provide it.
    3. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 24 September 2020 14: 45
      -2
      The FSB, the Investigative Committee and the police are fighting petty officials, and Aleksey is fighting very high-ranking thieves. Even if they catch a high-sitting Thief, they will not be jailed, but transferred to another position, like Serdyukov.
      Or the Ulyukaev case - a bribe of 2 million (a muddy case, they were framed by their own), and Alexey shows about the boiled billions in his videos. There is a difference?
      1. credo
        credo 24 September 2020 16: 32
        +2
        Quote: Fan-Fan
        The FSB, the Investigative Committee and the police are fighting petty officials, and Aleksey is fighting very high-ranking thieves. Even if they catch a high-sitting Thief, they will not be jailed, but transferred to another position, like Serdyukov.
        Or the Ulyukaev case - a bribe of 2 million (a muddy case, they were framed by their own), and Alexey shows about the boiled billions in his videos. There is a difference?

        Oh yes, well, who else will lead such a "titanic" work, no matter how FBK and Navalny about stolen billions, if not they. And where are the results of their activities?
        I wonder who then revealed corruption in Spetsstroy, Rostekhnadzor, among various unscrupulous governors and officials of a lesser rank, among some corrupt police officers, the military and others, is it really all just FBK and Navalny, and not simple workers of the prosecutor's office, police, IC and FSB?
        It seems that all the arguments of Navalny's fans boil down only to the fact that Lyosha Navalny is a real Russian hard worker and unserebrenic, giving out zilch to the mountain, but the rest, those who are not from his sect, are just idlers and parasites.
        Start at the end of the real facts to present about his results of activities in this field, and not engage in flooding.
  • Vend
    Vend 24 September 2020 11: 06
    -1
    Well, what can you do, Russia has always been generous with fools, whose innocence is used by people like Navalny.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 24 September 2020 10: 06
    11
    What a bastard era must be, in which this rabble will be her conscience!
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 September 2020 10: 10
    0
    The oval-anal has neither intelligence, nor honor, nor even more conscience, and therefore the issue is closed and there is no hell to discuss here. stop negative
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 24 September 2020 11: 32
      16
      Quote: Ros 56
      the oval-anal has no intelligence, no honor, and even less conscience

      I am very sorry, but how can you make such a diagnosis of the moral and ethical characteristics of a person without knowing him at all?
      Tell me, does Solovyov have honor and conscience?
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 24 September 2020 14: 30
        0
        Seriously, I didn't know Vlasov and Karbyshev either, but I know for sure that Vlasov is a traitor, and Dmitry Karbyshev is a HERO. And you should go to school to know that the names and surnames of people, even to you personally unsympathetic, must be written with a capital letter
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 24 September 2020 14: 40
          12
          Quote: Ros 56
          And you should go to school to know that the names and surnames of people, even to you personally unsympathetic, must be written with a capital letter

          And my hand does not rise to write a chapiro-litter with a capital letter.
          However, the presence of his honor and conscience, you kept silent, limiting yourself to a cheap child hitting laughing Well done! Keep it up))))
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 24 September 2020 14: 52
            +2
            Have you put on the judge's robe? Well, well, we have seen such.
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta 24 September 2020 21: 09
              15
              Quote: Ros 56
              Have you put on the judge's robe? Well, well, we have seen such.

              Why can't you answer the question asked.
              Are you talking about nonsense?
        2. Harry.km
          Harry.km 25 September 2020 14: 11
          +2
          Quote: Ros 56
          And you should go to school to know that the names and surnames of people, even to you personally unsympathetic, must be written with a capital letter

          Quote: Ros 56
          oval-anal


          Is that your first name, surname, or just your spoiled upbringing? Why, do you allow yourself to distort the names and surnames of people you do not like in a derogatory manner? Double morality of a fighter for stability?
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 25 September 2020 19: 47
            -1
            Precisely, this is the name and surname of the traitor to his country. Well, if you feel like it, consider it a bad upbringing, I am generally ill-mannered with regard to any trash who sells his country wholesale and retail for green paper.
          2. nnm
            25 September 2020 21: 47
            0
            And why does Navalny distort the name of the Prime Minister (for all my "respect" to DA)? Why did he enroll all the deputies from United Russia in the lists of swindlers and thieves? Either put on your pants or take off the cross
      2. nnm
        25 September 2020 21: 36
        +1
        And how does Solovyov's lack of conscience whitewash Lyosha?
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 25 September 2020 22: 17
          14
          Quote: nnm
          And how does Solovyov's lack of conscience whitewash Lyosha?

          And Lyosha, unlike the evening m., Was not dirty in shit!
          1. nnm
            25 September 2020 22: 19
            +1
            Well, yes ... a repeat offender wherever there to g ...
    2. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 24 September 2020 14: 50
      -2
      Yura, you have no conscience and honor. And Alexei is a very brave person, not like many. This is not the first time they try to kill him, and he knows that he can be killed and does not refuse to fight high-sitting thieves.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 24 September 2020 14: 56
        -3
        He is not fighting thieves, but next to Tikhanovskaya his place, he is trying to destroy the country. Fight if you are such a patriot, but do not eat handouts from the Western hand.
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 24 September 2020 15: 01
          0
          First, there is no evidence that the State Department or anyone else in the West is giving him money. And even if it does, which one? What, then, our thieves are not subject to jurisdiction? If their theft is proven with Western money, then they are not thieves?
          1. nnm
            25 September 2020 21: 36
            -1
            And where does the State Department? Is it okay that he steals money from fellow citizens?
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta 25 September 2020 22: 15
              15
              Quote: nnm
              And where does the State Department? Is it okay that he steals money from fellow citizens?

              I am very sorry, but who is stealing? Lyosha?
              Listen, I will not even talk now about how and how much they steal, or rather rob the friends of a friend, but I will say one thing that a friend of friends has been deceiving me for 20 years, 20 years of lies and deception, always and for any reason a lie!
              Can you ask examples? Like mud, 33 dump trucks !!! Starting from catching up with Portugal and doubling GDP, to pennies. reforms. And even children already know how he fights corruption / embezzlement.
              I repeat once again, I HATE this man, he did not even steal from me, he stole 20 years of development of my country!
  • paul3390
    paul3390 24 September 2020 10: 11
    +9
    For Rosneftegaz:

    The company's activity is to own state blocks of shares:

    PJSC Rosneft (before March 2013 75,16% of shares, then 69,5% [10], from 2016 to March 2020 [11] 50% + 1 share [12], then presumably decreased by 9,6% of shares [13], and, according to Mikhail Krutikhin, the controlling stake was lost [14])
    PJSC "Gazprom" - 10,97%
    OJSC Rosgazifikatsiya - 74,55%
    PJSC Inter RAO - 27,63% [15]
    7% of the Caspian Pipeline Consortium [16] [17].

    The cost of these packages as of February 15, 2008 is $ 94,9 billion.

    The number of personnel is about 10000 people [18]. Rosneftegaz's revenue in 2013 amounted to 264,5 billion rubles, net profit - 161 billion rubles. [19] At the same time, most of the company's income is dividends on shares of Rosneft and Gazprom


    Weird desk .. 10000 snouts running stocks ?? Attack the question - where do dividends go next? And the method of obtaining shares by her is also very obscure.
    1. nnm
      24 September 2020 10: 17
      +2
      And then you can still see how much he already transfers to the budget itself ... and compare the numbers.
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  • vic02
    vic02 24 September 2020 10: 11
    17
    You can count Navalny's money as much as you like and give extensive "explanations" that he is a spy and, in general, "poisoned himself", like Martsinkevich "killed himself", but a simple question: why Platoshkin, patriotic and not calling for any violence, is sitting in an absolutely absurd accusation? On this, all the arguments of the supporters of the authorities turn into an empty pumpkin. All possible leaders of the protest are destroyed, no matter which side they take, so that Armenia or Belarus does not repeat itself.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 24 September 2020 11: 13
      +7
      They don't even clean it ... burn it out .. smile
    2. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 24 September 2020 14: 52
      +2
      It's simple - they cling to power with all their might, they are afraid of the people's anger.
  • Grandfather
    Grandfather 24 September 2020 10: 11
    +4
    I agree to any of the proposed topics, just not about the bulk ... stop!
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 24 September 2020 10: 14
      0
      Quote: Dead Day
      I agree to any of the proposed topics, just not about bulk ... stop

      Support!
      Already from every iron about Alyoshka-Dichlorvos.
    2. nnm
      25 September 2020 21: 37
      +1
      Grandfather, choose 1 or 3. So it will be)))
  • kapitan92
    kapitan92 24 September 2020 10: 14
    +7
    The existing system gave birth to Navalny, and now he does not know what to do with him. I am not a supporter of this creature, but not one question and a raised topic about embezzlement from the budget, property of those in power, etc. , the system did not respond.
    What is the material about the "house" "Dimona" on the banks of the Volga (Ples). Tsars in Russia lived more modestly!
    The property is on some kind of fund, so publish materials on this Fund: Founders, budget, source of funds, balance ??? In response, silence ........
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 24 September 2020 10: 22
      19
      Quote: kapitan92
      What is the material about the "house" "Dimona" on the banks of the Volga (Ples). Tsars in Russia lived more modestly!

      Compared to friends of a friend, tsars are rogue, and Petrodvorets is a shed for servants .. What is the scope in Proskoveevka, for example.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 24 September 2020 10: 16
    -3
    Leshik Novichek is just a charlatan and an afferist.
    1. nnm
      24 September 2020 10: 20
      0
      That is the question - why did the authorities not do anything to stop him?
      1. depressant
        depressant 24 September 2020 11: 18
        +7
        Because, firstly, Navalny is an instrument of political power to discredit its own "friends." So that, on occasion, if they jerk in the opposite direction, they will show excessive power or treacherous ambitions, rake them, as it is supposed, on the basis of widely known compromising data. And at the same time to get the support of the population instead of bewilderedly spread hands and bulging eyes: How so? After all, "friends"?
        Because in the mind of a common man, a friend is a friend, and an enemy is an enemy.

        Power does not live by such concepts. There, a "friend" is an enemy, but the one who must be kept close to oneself even closer to a true friend, like a snake, to warm on his chest. All these Medvedevs, Usmanovs, Rotenbergs, Deripaska, others are those who, after realizing the benefits from the situation, will surrender their overlord, without thinking about the moral aspect of the act. So we need a stranglehold, preferably known to the population in advance. So that the strangled "friend" could not manipulate the information-deprived population and raise uncomfortable unrest, even if the strangled man's henchmen begin to stir up such unrest with the strangled person's money. So that people are not indignant on the basis of morality. On the contrary! To say "Well, finally! And then we are tired of waiting!"

        Secondly, Navalny is a showcase of the democratic and liberal nature of our government for the Western audience. Like, see what he's doing? Yes, you, in your States, at best, would have long ago sat down for several life sentences, simultaneously fined by the budget of the Pentagon, and even the state itself. And in hush - would disappear in a quiet way, as investigators regularly disappear from you, which even in your cinema is widespread, in all details and repeatedly reflected in the quality of your own ostracism. But we have freedom of speech and investigation! We are cooler, in terms of democracy and other crap we are holier than you!

        And Navalny is also an instrument against us all, implanted by the West to bring us to our likeness, or to a state of slavish submission - whatever happens. Thanks to the efforts of the West itself, we no longer have only suitable tools of any kind - we import nails from China!
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 24 September 2020 11: 39
        -1
        Quote: nnm
        That is the question - why did the authorities not do anything to stop him?

        Because he has a lot of defenders, look how much for him, and if someone writes badly about Letsik Novichok, then they minus, which is good, the minuses show "who is who."
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 24 September 2020 15: 05
          -2
          look how much for him,

          Yes, there are a lot of us ordinary people and it dawned on us that Alexey is a hero and a very brave person. And everyone who writes badly about him is those in power or simply narrow-minded people in politics.
  • Woodman
    Woodman 24 September 2020 10: 18
    +9
    I voted for the third topic, but if the author is ready to cover the raised issues in the same detail and quality, I will be happy to read his articles on all three topics.
    1. nnm
      24 September 2020 10: 21
      +3
      Thank you, dear colleague.
      1. vatov
        vatov 24 September 2020 13: 55
        +2
        I'd love to read his articles on all three topics.
        Thanks to the author! I am waiting for two more articles.
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 24 September 2020 10: 19
    10
    And, another schematic. How many of these schematics are walking on the Internet. About the Economy of Russia - what belongs to whom, about the Goblin, about Semin, and about the Unnamed One too.
    No sense, although about Russia compiled by authoritative publications.

    But nowhere are the main topics raised - how loyal is the Unnamed One in investigations ?, and why the security forces do not conduct their investigations about the revealed facts?
    (although everyone understands everything)

    Instead, it sounds everywhere: an agent (of Putin, Medvedev, the Kremlin, the State Department, Khodorkovsky, etc.), the investigations are "wrong", it is necessary to somehow "right, in private rooms", and money, money, then where (especially if they and come up with)?
  • Same lech
    Same lech 24 September 2020 10: 26
    +5
    Ruslan Shaveddinov for his statements in support of Bandera and Shukhevych should be arrested and imprisoned ... how many such scoundrels are walking free in Russia ... the NKVD did not work out these jackals to the end.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 24 September 2020 11: 10
      +2
      Ruslan Shaveddinov should be arrested and imprisoned for his statements in support of Bandera and Shukhevych
      .... However, they are not imprisoned. The left populist Platoshkin is more dangerous than Ruslan Shaveddinov. laughing
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 24 September 2020 15: 09
        -2
        Platoshkin is dangerous only for those in power, that's why they "closed" him. Did you watch a lot of videos with Platoshkin and what is criminal there? The fact that he criticizes the authorities? Can't you criticize them anymore?
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 24 September 2020 10: 37
    -1
    On the one hand, we must educate about every phenomenon in our life. On the other hand, if you don't talk about something, don't notice, then it doesn't seem to exist. I wonder how soon Navalny will disappear if everyone stops talking about him?
    1. nnm
      24 September 2020 10: 41
      +2
      Yes, instantly, like a lightning rod and the appearance of an opposition will create a new Navalny. Which will just be his clone.
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 24 September 2020 15: 10
        -2
        You would also say who created Navalny, really Putin?
        1. nnm
          25 September 2020 21: 38
          +1
          Look for "who benefits."
  • demo
    demo 24 September 2020 10: 47
    +3
    But there is another side to the issue. If someone believes that the facts investigated at the above-described court interested law enforcement agencies, then he is deeply mistaken. No one even made an attempt to investigate who got into their pockets this money intended to fight corruption. Nobody even tried to determine whether there is a fraudulent nature in the withdrawal of funds that had a targeted purpose. This is how the authorities are "fighting" with Navalny.
    This is the most important thing.
    Imagine a country. in which there is a normal government ruled by a normal prime minister, at the head of such a state is a normal, patriotic president, and in which Navalie, Sobchak, Bykovs and others like them feel so at ease, and the courts, the prosecutor's office, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and others are completely inactive. FSB is not possible.
    But if the country is under external control, and this is as clear as God's day, then yes, it is possible.
    The presence of "opposition" is a necessary and sufficient condition.
    But the "opposition" is not real, but manageable.
    And even if later this "leader of the protest movement" will be eliminated by those who set the tasks for him, it will also be within the framework of the rules of the game that Putin and the rest of the power vertical are playing.
    True, we will still have to disentangle ourselves, the Russians.
    Minin and Pozharsky led the militia, but the people from the Kremlin asked the Poles to leave.
    So the day is not far off when this whole village booth will be kicked out in the ass with a knee.
    Fed up with pea jesters.
    1. nnm
      24 September 2020 10: 54
      +1
      This is the whole problem - imitation of actions with a complete reluctance to carry them out in practice. But I don’t understand where from above there is such confidence that this will work forever. Yes, they are stupid through education, TV, through the creation of a hypertrophied image of external enemies (forgetting about internal, more terrible ones), but it is noticeable even from young people that this game of "development" works less and less ...
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 24 September 2020 11: 31
        +2
        And who is the most terrible enemy, internal to the bourgeois power? smile The bourgeois themselves .. smile All means are good to get super profit, money does not smell, etc.
      2. demo
        demo 24 September 2020 12: 44
        +1
        But I don’t understand where from above there is such confidence that this will work forever.
        There is no certainty "at the top" of anything. Today they will be replaced tomorrow.
        The whole policy of our so-called. the state is built on lies, deceit, unfulfilled promises, projecting and much more.
        As they began to "fill the tanks" about 25 million jobs, and continue to this day.
        I was interested in doing a semantic analysis of the GDP speeches over the past 20 years.
        For the subject of the study were taken official speeches - messages to the FS.
        The analysis showed: on average, 71% of speech is water.
        Classic Document Nausea 7.87
        Academic Document Nausea 4.7%
        Word count 5170
        Number of unique words 1555
        The number of significant words 1350
        Number of stop words 1719
        The frequency of using words such as: person, person, citizen - no more than 10 in the entire text.
        Most often, the words are used: state, power, Russia - 50-60.
        Those. an impersonal "that" that cannot demand an answer for its actions or inaction.
        That's all that today fills that spiritless void that is in the souls of our rulers.
    2. samarin1969
      samarin1969 24 September 2020 17: 07
      0
      Quote: demo
      Imagine a country. in which there is a normal government ruled by a normal prime minister, at the head of such a state is a normal, patriotic president, and in which Navalie, Sobchak, Bykovs and others like them feel so at ease, and the courts, the prosecutor's office, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and others are completely inactive. FSB is not possible.
      But if the country is under external control, and this is as clear as God's day, then yes, it is possible.
      The presence of "opposition" is a necessary and sufficient condition.
      But the "opposition" is not real, but manageable.


      Excellent comment: short and clear. hi good
      Navalny's topic is absolutely not interesting. There is no difference whatsoever between Navalny and his Kremlin "opponent". But the authorities use it in their games. A couple of times I agreed by phone to polls by VTsIOM. Quite boring and uninteresting. I asked the "girl's voice" to skip the questions of "pro-Navalny": I treat him "in no way". The lady got a little angry and stubbornly asked to "evaluate" Alexei-don’t know the fatherhood.
      It has long been clear that Navalny is from a series about Baghdasaryan, Dzhigarkhanyan, Tarzan and the goat, Timur and other informational gum for a diversion.
  • iouris
    iouris 24 September 2020 10: 54
    -1
    Navalny is Jupiter. (What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to a bull.)
    1. nnm
      24 September 2020 10: 57
      +2
      It seems that he is far from Jupiter ... rather, like his beloved dog, which is only threatened with a finger when it shits in the apartment.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 24 September 2020 10: 56
    -2
    Bulk already waste material. Not all topics related to it are interesting. Let his personal belongings be nailed to the red square.
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 24 September 2020 15: 16
      -5
      You are wrong guys, Navalny is now the leader of the opposition No. 1 and not a tame opposition like Zhirik and Zyuganich, but a real, irreconcilable opposition. Previously, they were afraid of him so that they did not allow him before the elections, they knew that he would win. And now it's just a commotion upstairs.
  • Trotil42
    Trotil42 24 September 2020 10: 59
    +6
    Quote: nnm
    Do you seriously believe that he is conducting some kind of investigation?)))

    Actually, yes ... Compared with the prosecutor's office, the UK, anti-corruption ... once again, yes .. they just participate in these schemes .. Of course, Navalny is not a panacea .. but all state. organs vosche rotted ... In every city of Russia, the most expensive house of the governor or the measure ... everything was built on a beggarly salary ... anti-corruptionists think money vosche rooms ... they planted one Zakharchenko ... funny ...
    1. nnm
      24 September 2020 11: 06
      +2
      Quote: Trotil42
      Actually, yes ..

      But from his reports, I see the opposite - that through him, one power group merges dirt on another in the struggle for power. Well, + sometimes external sources are thrown.
      1. Trotil42
        Trotil42 24 September 2020 11: 16
        +4
        Quote: nnm
        Quote: Trotil42
        Actually, yes ..

        But from his reports, I see the opposite - that through him, one power group merges dirt on another in the struggle for power. Well, + sometimes external sources are thrown.

        I completely admit it ... but the ruling is no longer able to somehow control the situation not only within the country ... but also in foreign policy ... Putin's latest explanations to Macron about the poisoning are a vivid example of inadequacy ..
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 24 September 2020 15: 19
          -1
          This is an example of panic in the Kremlin.
      2. WIKI
        WIKI 24 September 2020 11: 48
        +5
        Quote: nnm
        one powerful group is leaking dirty talk to another

        And here it is already interesting. Who represents this "ONE" seems to be clear. The question is why the "OTHER" is silent, who is the accuser on its part, and does it exist at all? Or is this whole scheme, "ONE and OTHER" invented to powder the brains of the electorate?
        1. nnm
          24 September 2020 11: 57
          -1
          As I understand it, the "leader" of this second group has recently been slightly removed from power.
          1. WIKI
            WIKI 24 September 2020 12: 10
            +2
            Then why didn't they nominate the same "Navalny"? After all, the method is effective and lying on the surface. The only explanation is that the "ONE" group represents the interests of the president. Oh how it would hurt "OTHER" if they did it.
            1. nnm
              24 September 2020 12: 22
              0
              perhaps because because They are obviously in a weaker position, then answer them - just the same materials in bulk will be taken into work by law enforcement officers and then a scribe. And their "materials" will only vibrate on air
        2. dauria
          dauria 24 September 2020 12: 34
          0
          and does it exist at all?


          I doubt it. There are graters, but they are "in between", on a personal unit level. They squint, growl, but the rule "We do not gnaw our own, no matter how much we want" they observe. They will start to gnaw - we will immediately see in the national regions. And Lyosha - here the author went too far that he was "from the authorities." Apparently, there is some level, a threshold of "fame", to which one can trample with impunity. After - it's a little more expensive. In my opinion, they missed the moment with Navalny, and foreign guys took him to feed. Not ours. Not a horse feed, but at least such a horse. They have no other.
          1. WIKI
            WIKI 24 September 2020 12: 47
            +5
            If "Echo" is "fed" by the state, then the option with Navalny "foreign guys" is not obvious
            1. dauria
              dauria 24 September 2020 12: 52
              -1
              If "Echo" is "fed by the state

              If Navalny is a staff member of the opposition on a salary, then how to explain the circus with "poisoning", an airplane from Germany, and so on? Lesha started a double game, threw employers in Russia and ran away? I don’t think so. Both the idea and the performance of the circus were from beyond the hillock.
              1. WIKI
                WIKI 24 September 2020 13: 07
                -1
                Let's leave the answer to this question to specialists. As an option:
                Quote: Cottodraton
                For example, this is an answer from Andrey Voln, head of the clinic for traumatology, orthopedics and spinal surgery at the Ilyinsky hospital
                "The National Medical Chamber, represented by Dr. Roshal, turned to German doctors with a proposal to create a joint expert commission to understand what happened to Alexei Navalny.
                I have a simpler proposal for Roshal. It's much easier to understand the processes. What do you need:
                1. To find out on the basis of what clinical data the doctor (paramedic) of the ambulance of Omsk diagnosed exogenous intoxication and brought the patient to the toxicological intensive care unit. Not in cardio. Not in vascular resuscitation. Namely in toxicology. Find out in detail and accurately. This is not difficult.
                2. Find out on the basis of what clinical manifestations the doctor (paramedic) of the ambulance administered atropine to the patient. This is important for diagnosis too.
                3. Request a copy of the patient's medical record A.A. Navalny. (in agreement with relatives) from the BSMP Omsk. Find out what kind of therapy the patient received and what diagnosis was made.
                4. Find out in the Ministry of Health why it was the neurophysiologist and the resuscitator who were sent to Omsk. Not a toxicologist. Let me remind you that in the BSMP Navalny A.A. was under the control of resuscitators. And toxicologists. Why did they need a resuscitator from Moscow, and not a toxicologist or both combined?
                Was the resuscitator really sent to Omsk just to "broadcast the situation." So Doctor Teplykh writes in his FB. What does it mean?
                5. To interview in detail the Moscow resuscitator who from the capital's toxicologists took part remotely in the council. In his responses to Meduza, the doctor writes that these were some toxicologists from the Moscow Medical Center of Forensic Medicine. Does the doctor know that toxicologists - clinicians do not work in forensic medicine centers? Does Doctor Teplykh know that only toxicologists-chemists, experts, and not specialists in the treatment of poisoning work there? There are simply no clinicians on the staff. Or does he deliberately mix concepts? Why does he say that the main thing for a toxicologist is the identification of the poison? Yes. It is very important. But, not all poisons are not always identified. Therefore, for the clinician-toxicologist, everything is important - anamnesis, clinic, information from ambulance colleagues and, only then, laboratory data. With whom "all night" was Doctor Teplykh "in touch"? With clinical toxicologists, what do the clinic know and know how to treat poisoning? Or just the lab chemists?
                6. The doctor says that the patient was injected with atropine. In what doses? The fact is that the doses of atropine, as an antidote, are tens, or even hundreds of times higher than the "usual" doses of atropine, which are often used when accompanied by mechanical ventilation. Was atropine used as an antidote? If so, was the diagnosis of poisoning made? If it is “simple” to accompany mechanical ventilation, then why talk about it?
          2. nnm
            24 September 2020 13: 53
            +1
            So Lesha does not interfere with milking two cows ...
            1. dauria
              dauria 24 September 2020 14: 15
              0
              So Lesha does not interfere with milking two cows.


              Doesn't fit. He sucks the western cow, she agrees - there is benefit. But I don't watch our cow. I don't see the main thing - why should she feed a heifer, clearly working for the enemy of our own cow? It's easier to have a dog collar pet. Step aside - to the butcher.
              No, I think - Lyosha was not extinguished in time, and then it was too late. But now they will correct themselves. Lesha, it seems, have written off their own for hopelessness. But the new Lyosha will already be a Russian, obedient and controlled "valve for bleeding steam"
      3. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 24 September 2020 15: 18
        -2
        Author, you have already said more than once the struggle of groups in power, but can you name these groups and at least a few names? Weak?
        1. demo
          demo 24 September 2020 19: 14
          +2
          May I be the author? Although he himself, no doubt, can.
          In order to understand and name the groups at the top of our power, it is necessary to understand who and how came to this power.
          Although 20 years have passed, the events are before our eyes.
          An unknown youthful man came to replace Yeltsin.
          Quiet, inconspicuous, colorless former officer of the PGU of the KGB of the USSR.
          And everyone breathed a sigh of relief.
          But you need to understand the following:
          1. They don't just take power.
          2. With such a castling, the requirement for the candidacy is extremely high.
          3. No verbal commitment works in such cases. The candidate must have such a "black spot" that, in the event of his violation of agreements, will allow him to be destroyed.

          How the last condition is fulfilled - the irremovability of the course - is impeccable.
          In order for those who stood behind Yeltsin to see and not worry there is a Yeltsin Center in Yekaterinburg.
          Almost 90% of the population of Russia spits on the mere understanding that this object is on our land. And Putin, if only henna!
          Second. Putin's repeated statement that there will be no revisions of the privatization results.
          This is more than convincing.
          Third. The position taken in relation to those who impose sanctions against us - the Americans and their companions - the Europeans, suggests that Russia is in the greatest possible vassal dependence on external control.
          As Semcher stated, 70% of the industry and 80% of the banking sector of the Russian Federation belong to the same Americans and Europeans.

          But we must be aware that Americans are not Americans.
          There are structures of conditionally globalists. More precisely, the structure of international banking capital.
          It is they who own Russia.
          And there are structures of industrial capital. They are tied to their countries.
          Now the important thing.
          Trump is the spokesman for US industrialists. And they have an irreconcilable war with the bankers.
          And the fact that Russia today is the cash cow of the banking system evokes Trump's unfeigned hatred.
          As such, he "does not care about Russia." But the fact that it is being used today to strengthen the clan of bankers is the root cause.
          Now to who is in charge in Russia and what groups exist.
          There is a main character - Putin.
          He is free (to measure) to form his team.
          But his every step is subject to multilevel control.
          We know the faces and surnames.
          These are Chubais, Graf, Nabiulina and some others.
          It is they who are irreplaceable and unsinkable, to our surprise.
          Medvedev and his team simply did not live up to the hopes of those who in the west were betting on him.
          Too lazy and not smart.
          Therefore, Putin was allowed to replace him. Replaced with a faceless, tough publican.
          Those figures who stand next to Putin are essentially the same weak-willed and uncomplaining executors of Putin's will. Only they are given a certain sector "for feeding".
          The main goal is not to get into someone else's garden.
          Any events splashed out on TV screens are the protection of some against the robbery of others.
          But at their core, they swaddled Russia and fulfilled the requirements of bankers to siphon resources from our country.

          Local "Kremlin towers" are running errands.
          1. nnm
            25 September 2020 21: 40
            +2
            On behalf of the author I will say ... maybe, and most likely I will not change anything, but ... everything I do will be the maximum of what I was given to do. And what did not succeed - let the next generations raise from the archive. But you can't give up.
            1. demo
              demo 26 September 2020 07: 15
              +3
              But you can't give up.
              This is the main and most important message.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 24 September 2020 11: 06
    +1
    Navalny, above mentioned. Who is this? Children of their country, of their time, a generation that grew up in the 90s and matured in the 2000s on the moral principles that a new, free, democratic Russia gave them. And the principle is simple, “make money, make money, and the rest is all rubbish.” (C) And they do literally on everything, even in the fight against corruption. I’ll even say a seditious thing, Navalny and Co. or the like, who will become years old, that way in 20 at the head of Russia. The ruling class will smooth them a little, polish them up, renew them and lead them to power.
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 24 September 2020 11: 07
    +6
    What is the conclusion? Since Navalny and the company are stealing, it means that everything he says is not true! So? Since he gets information in an unjust way, then it is not true!
    And our elite, the more you can steal and lie. Applause!
    The fact that he pours water into someone else's mill, I have no doubt. But I doubt that he is lying, denouncing the mighty of this world.
    1. nnm
      25 September 2020 21: 41
      +2
      No. The conclusion is that replacing one with their copy will give nothing. In my opinion.
  • Trotil42
    Trotil42 24 September 2020 11: 07
    +2
    Quote: nnm
    That is the problem - in fact, we have "opposition" - the same Fabergés that we already have. And as now there is no real fight against corruption, and it will not be with the change of power to "opposition". And it turns out some kind of vicious circle.

    And you try to change ...
    1. nnm
      24 September 2020 11: 18
      +1
      I do not think that at the present historical stage, the country needs such a revolution, and there will be very few supporters of this idea, if we go into the practical plane, and not stay at the level of ideas. But no one closed the way to the qualitative evolution of the system. Nobody forces us to vote or to spit on this right and just sit on the couch to criticize. In many ways, we are able to influence. But we are afraid of change and responsibility. And, suddenly, others will be the same ...
      But the same corruption exists at our level with you - it's not even convenient to talk about how much to pay for normal treatment. And so in every question - wherever you look, we ourselves are ready to go over our heads, if only to steal a piece of fatter for ourselves
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 24 September 2020 11: 18
    -2
    This shit has been cutting wood for 10 years! And there is nothing to gossip about - a thief (Navalny is a cunning thief) should be in prison, like his friend Belykh, and this is not for long ...
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 24 September 2020 15: 24
      -2
      (Bulk cunning thief)

      Here is a note from Wiki: "On February 23, 2016, the European Court of Human Rights published a decision in which it recognized that during the consideration of the Kirovles case in 2013, Navalny and Ofitserov's rights to a fair trial and to punishment solely on the basis of the law were violated. The court found that Navalny and Ofitserov were tried for acts that cannot be distinguished from ordinary entrepreneurial activities and ordered Russia to pay them 8 thousand euros each as compensation for non-pecuniary damage and about 71 thousand euros in compensation for legal costs (Navalny - slightly more than 48 thousand euros, and Officerov - almost 23 thousand euros) "
    2. zontov79
      zontov79 26 September 2020 21: 14
      0
      And what about the king and his entourage, tell me?
  • Operator
    Operator 24 September 2020 11: 41
    -4
    Anal has been repeatedly seen in joint actions with the first secretary of the American embassy in Moscow - an official resident of the US CIA. The last operation was the trip of Analny (from whom a written undertaking not to leave Moscow was taken during the trial on the claim of a WWII veteran) and a CIA resident in a car with diplomatic numbers to the city of Ivanovo.

    In October 2019, the non-profit organization FBK, Analny and Sobol lost the trial to Prigozhin with a bang in the case of allegedly supplying substandard food for school meals - the "sensation" of Anal and Co. was based on a single interview with a former employee of the company - a food supplier. In court, the employee retracted her words and testified that she had read the text given to her by representatives of the FBK NGO.

    The court ordered the defendants Analny, Sobol and NPO FBK together to pay 88 million rubles to the plaintiff Prigozhin as compensation for moral damage. After that, Analny announced the beginning of the process of his personal bankruptcy and the bankruptcy of the FBK NPO. In this connection, his western sponsors Khodorkovsky, Zimin and other fugitive Russian oligarchs decided to make an Anal scapegoat out of bankruptcy in order to at least politically justify their long-term investments, which ended in nothing.

    As a result, Analny in August 2020 was brought to a sharp fluctuation in blood sugar (with the help of medicines, diet and alcohol), from which he had to glue his fins on the flight from Tomsk to Moscow, but thanks to the pilots and doctors of Omsk, his life was saved. After that, the second round of the Marlezon ballet was carried out in panting with the connection of Merkelsha, the Bundeswehr and the BND - when the carcass of the Anal was delivered to Berlin (in a medically induced coma and stable condition), traces of an organic phosphorus compound from one of the non-combat varieties of a poisonous substance were added to his blood samples "Novichok" (of which about 400 Soviet, Russian and Western developments are known to date).

    Germany and the OPCW, which possess information about the chemical structure of the provocatively used phosphorus-organic compound, still refuse to publish it, because it will immediately become clear that it does not belong to the military varieties of the Novichok poisonous substance, finally entered into the OPCW's register in June 2020.

    PS A separate question: why was the OPCW dragging on time with the introduction of the "Novichok" combat varieties into its register of CWA already since 1997 (the moment the Russian Federation ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention), despite the fact that back in 1992, three of its Soviet developers emigrated to the United States, and In 1994, the President of the Russian Federation officially passed on to the FRG Chancellor all the information on Novichok, which the FRG immediately transmitted to its NATO allies and Sweden.
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 24 September 2020 11: 45
    +3
    What a nightmare, what a horror! The fund of the dude who talks about the theft of billions somewhere "touched" 100 donated money ... no, not even that. The whole donate came to the address - 89 lemmas arrived - 96 lemmas were spent. What's wrong ? Did the guys go somewhere where 100 Lyamas who came from nowhere (but were marked at the same time as received)? Maybe it’s a money-box for a rainy day, maybe it’s the help of some moneybag for legal and legal expenses, such as horse bills from the “Armenia” restaurant, who filed a lawsuit against Nava for “lost profit from pickets”. The money came - they were paid with a QUIET BOOT in the order of consensus of the parties - so that such lovers of looking at the opposition under a magnifying glass, like the author of this article, would then not get lost in the fact that Nav and Co. sometimes back up in their activities.

    I am not claiming that this is really so and I am not excluding Nava. However, posing the question in the style of "If our government is so bad and vicious, why is he still not in prison?" - puzzles me.
    It has long been known that if you slap a revolutionary like a fly, he can become an idol and an icon of activity - everything bad and muddy about him will be forgotten, only a gorgeous image of a sort of Neo from the 20th century will remain (according to a similar scheme, Bandera is being painted in Ukraine now), and most importantly, soon everyone will be strictly parallel to what the subject was in reality - the legend will carry its apologists where necessary.
    Consequently, the authorities (excluding the authorities of the most stupid and stubborn states) prefer to fight with such people by systematic discrediting from different directions - this is the organization of provocations, and recruiting of supporters, and various forgeries, etc. In the case of a skillfully carried out and prepared for a long time before this, there is not only a massive dismoral of the opposition-minded part of society, but also an average-period resistance to active forms of protest, an increase in political indifference of previously quite active groups of the population (for example, how at one time all such a clear Lebed leaked his votes to Yeltsin, this is just an example of a similar scheme of active accumulation of the electorate).

    Is it possible to conduct political activities for 80-100 lamas? This is a question from the series "Is it possible to make a good movie for 5 rubles. If in the author's understanding it is" conducting polit. activities "this is scattering newspapers in boxes a la the Communist Party - then no, vryatli. If this is the collection of information and its compilation in the form of investigations - quite. The increase in funds does not always develop the ability to use them competently.

    The controversy surrounding Nava's personality is a futile and inspirational exercise. It is not necessary to discuss his, but the gigantic sums that left the budget of the Russian Federation and settled on Rublevka or Lake Coma or near New York, in villas, yachts, vineyards, etc. Half of the VO is packed with articles in which the authors scratch their faces and moan about the lack of funds for the submarine / surface fleet, tanks, satellites, etc. HERE THEY, THESE MEANS!
    This is where they were spent. They brought you this information on a saucer with a blue border, and you are still grunting something bad about the person who did it :-)
    Paradox, gentlemen!
  • Revival
    Revival 24 September 2020 11: 49
    +5
    To finish talking to the end, I propose a topic:
    "What about the investigations on the information" sounded "by the talking head" compromising evidence from one group to another !?
  • Mihail55
    Mihail55 24 September 2020 11: 50
    +7
    Is it weak for the authorities to answer? Figures, documents, people ... he is all Lying! People are being held for idiots ???
    If there is something to dig, there are "worthy" ones! Be clean and no scum will fool you. Unfortunately everyone is good. History teaches ... teaches
  • Alex66
    Alex66 24 September 2020 11: 53
    +5
    The problem is not in Navalny, the problem is in the authorities, it would not be tarnished and there would be no Navalny. He threw the estate to Medvedev, and the duel with Zolotov, and so everywhere he does not need to come up with anything, just poke our power with a muzzle in her kaki.
  • Engineer
    Engineer 24 September 2020 12: 02
    -1
    Always cool about Navalny
    But since any article (and this one too) on a political topic on VO is 100% biased slag and stinks of a cheap populist trash heap, it is not a sin to sink for Lech
  • Radikal
    Radikal 24 September 2020 12: 33
    +2
    Quote: nnm
    I agree. But does this somehow whitewash the bulk? That is, we admit a situation in which Navalny himself became in power - will something change? Is he somehow different from the heroes of his videos?

    In this case, the question to you, who, in your opinion, is the greatest evil for the country - the "heroes" and characters of the "investigations" of the FBK, or Navalny? wink bully
    1. iouris
      iouris 24 September 2020 13: 31
      0
      Quote: Radikal
      who, in your opinion, is the greatest evil for the country

      The statement of the question is incorrect. Evil is not absolute in an antagonistic society. It is necessary to change the system, and not to pursue some abstract "evil" or what you think.
      We are not subjects of politics, therefore "our (your) opinion" does not matter. On the surface of real processes, only some circles and splashes can be observed. If you think that you understand everything, then the disinformation has worked, the goal has been achieved.
  • iouris
    iouris 24 September 2020 13: 25
    +3
    Our era has no intelligence, no honor, no conscience.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 24 September 2020 13: 40
    -2
    Navalny, with all due respect to him, does not claim to be a politician. His investigations are good, with a clear evidence base. As for a politician, he is a modest kind person, a family man. In some European country where everything is fine, he would have come in and brought a lot of useful things. It will not ride in Russia, here you need a bandit, without a family, like a thief in law, who will kill half of the corrupt officials, and jail the rest.
    1. nnm
      24 September 2020 13: 49
      -3
      Quote: imobile2008
      like a thief in law

      Well, Alexey, after two terms (albeit conditional), is not far from such a status.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 24 September 2020 13: 43
    0
    Quote: Operator
    miserably lost the trial to Prigozhin in the case of allegedly supplying substandard food for school meals - the "sensation" of Anal and Co. was based on a single interview with a former employee of a company - a food supplier. In court, the employee retracted her words and testified that she had read the text given to her by representatives of the FBK NGO.

    Our entire kindergarten has perished from these "quality" products. Few fatalities have been reported.
    1. Operator
      Operator 24 September 2020 16: 50
      -3
      The question is different: what does Prigozhin have to do with, who was pulled by the ears by Analny with the help of a fake interview with a former employee of one of the companies - food suppliers?

      Plus, what is the name of Anal's close contacts with the official resident of the US CIA (also the first secretary of the American embassy in Moscow) - foreign subversive propaganda, isn't it?
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 24 September 2020 13: 49
    -2
    Quote: Knell Wardenheart

    This is where they were spent. They brought you this information on a saucer with a blue border, and you are still grunting something bad about the person who did it :-)
    Paradox, gentlemen!
    There is no paradox, these cheapies, who write such articles from these hundreds of billions of dollars, have a couple of thousand wooden ones unfastened. They are ready to sell their mother for three kopecks, and here are several thousand.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 24 September 2020 13: 51
    -2
    Quote: nnm
    Quote: imobile2008
    like a thief in law

    Well, Alexey, after two terms (albeit conditional), is not far from such a status.

    Politicals do not whip, you must with a criminal offense, repeat offender
    1. nnm
      24 September 2020 14: 17
      -1
      So what's the policy ?! Both sentences - Article 159 of the Criminal Code "Fraud". And there really was a fraud.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 24 September 2020 13: 59
    -1
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Quote: Videx
    the more it has been proven that he is lying!

    Can I get acquainted with the evidence? And then, besides stupid calls to a duel, and Usmanov's collision I have not heard of any libel lawsuit. wink
    Not about one lawsuit even in a corrupt court, I would correct
  • BAI
    BAI 24 September 2020 14: 27
    +3
    The author asks strange questions. Let's try to answer.
    1
    1. Do you know at least one other person whom the authorities dream of imprisoning, and a person sentenced to a suspended sentence, who at the second trial receives not a real, but a second suspended sentence?

    The sea of ​​such. If the term has expired, not even a conditional one, then the criminal record has been canceled and the person is clean. May be taken into account at the sole discretion of the judge. Or it may not be accepted. This is about the corruption capacity of the laws of the Russian Federation.

    2.
    2. Do you know at least one other person who was twice sentenced to a suspended sentence, continues to constantly break the law and receives a passport for multiple trips abroad on vacation instead of a real term?

    The name is Legion and no one knows the exact number:
    If you really need to go abroad, you can use a different working scheme. It involves moving through Belarus. In this country, they cannot find out about the possible criminal record of a Russian due to the lack of a single register of convicts between the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation. In addition, you can get to Belarus even without special travel documents. Therefore, a person with a criminal record will simply leave for this country, and from it already get to the desired state without problems. You can go back directly, since you cannot refuse entry to the Russian Federation to her patriotic.
    1. nnm
      24 September 2020 15: 23
      +1
      Quote: BAI
      If expired

      No, no, no ... without this very "if", but exactly like in Lesha .... during the period of one conditional sentence, get another one and also conditional !!! ?? And, if possible, then not
      Quote: BAI
      The sea of ​​such.

      but specific cases and names.

      Quote: BAI
      Name im- Legion

      Name, sister (or rather, of course, a colleague), name !!!! TWO (!) Simultaneously valid conditional terms and a dozen of permitted trips abroad.
  • Darkesstcat
    Darkesstcat 24 September 2020 14: 30
    +1
    Thank you, it was interesting to read.
  • Radikal
    Radikal 24 September 2020 15: 05
    +2
    Quote: iouris
    Quote: Radikal
    who, in your opinion, is the greatest evil for the country

    The statement of the question is incorrect. Evil is not absolute in an antagonistic society. It is necessary to change the system, and not to pursue some abstract "evil" or what you think.
    We are not subjects of politics, therefore "our (your) opinion" does not matter. On the surface of real processes, only some circles and splashes can be observed. If you think that you understand everything, then the disinformation has worked, the goal has been achieved.

    As V. Tikhonov (Stirlitz) said to R. Plyatt (pastor Schlag) - "Sophistry is a pastor, sophistry ...". bully And if it's simpler, then demagoguery. I asked the author a very specific question, but he is still silent. winked
  • Trotil42
    Trotil42 24 September 2020 15: 42
    +3
    Quote: nnm
    I do not think that at the present historical stage, the country needs such a revolution, and there will be very few supporters of this idea, if we go into the practical plane, and not stay at the level of ideas. But no one closed the way to the qualitative evolution of the system. Nobody forces us to vote or to spit on this right and just sit on the couch to criticize. In many ways, we are able to influence. But we are afraid of change and responsibility. And, suddenly, others will be the same ...
    But the same corruption exists at our level with you - it's not even convenient to talk about how much to pay for normal treatment. And so in every question - wherever you look, we ourselves are ready to go over our heads, if only to steal a piece of fatter for ourselves

    A rotten and degrading system cannot be rebuilt in a positive direction .. it can only further decompose and rot, involving more and more healthy organs .. otherwise it does not happen .. To call a person a corrupt official .. who shoves money to a doctor for curing a mother or child and ready to sell my kidney ... it's immoral ... a doctor who takes money. who sits on loans for a beggarly salary and needs to feed his child .. also immoral .. The salary of an official in the Russian Federation such as Gref, Sechin, Miller is an order of magnitude higher than the salary of the US President .. (443 thousand dollars per year) is also corruption .. Lenin wrote about this ...
    1. nnm
      24 September 2020 17: 16
      0
      Quote: Trotil42
      A decayed and degrading system cannot be rebuilt in a positive direction.

      I disagree. For example, I will give you an example of the evolution of capitalist systems after the revolution in Russia.
      1. Trotil42
        Trotil42 24 September 2020 17: 50
        0
        Quote: nnm
        Quote: Trotil42
        A decayed and degrading system cannot be rebuilt in a positive direction.

        I disagree. For example, I will give you an example of the evolution of capitalist systems after the revolution in Russia.

        Wow .. how everything is started .. dear .. you don't even understand the basics .. there is an evolutionary path .. there is a revolutionary .. your statement contradicts not only the foundations of philosophy .. but also the laws of formal logic .. there was no evolutionary path of development of capitalism after revolution .. it did not develop .. just socialism retains the elements of capitalism because it is a transitional stage in the building of communism.
        1. nnm
          24 September 2020 18: 06
          +1
          Wait. Less emotion, more facts. That is, you want to say that under the influence of the revolution in Russia, Western capitalism did not evolve, incl. and in the field of social relations?
          1. Trotil42
            Trotil42 24 September 2020 18: 19
            0
            Well, read the classics .. Lenin, for example .. It clearly says what socialism is .. Socialism is a transitional stage ... and this stage is needed to destroy the elements of capitalism .. therefore there is no question of any evolution .. including in social sphere ..
            1. nnm
              24 September 2020 18: 26
              +1
              I asked you the simplest and most specific question. If you are not ready to answer it, then you should not breed sophistry.
              And if you believe that under the threat of a repetition of revolutions at home, Western capitalism did not evolve, introducing restrictions on the working day, paid vacations, establishing a normal minimum wage, introducing safety measures (as before, at the Ford plant, all TB was contained in one poster - "God thought of people, but did not come up with spare parts for them) and much more, then you cover the essence of the issue with the simplest verbiage.
              1. Trotil42
                Trotil42 27 September 2020 15: 57
                0
                What nonsense? Western capitalism has evolved (in what formation? After all, socialism was created to destroy capitalism) .. I was taught management by guys from Geneva .. They gave the foundations of capitalism .. The whole transformation is explained by the formation of a sales market (for example, as China is doing now raising wages and increasing domestic demand) and cost labor force (safety ... the higher the development, the more expensive labor.) ... vacation? Have you heard about the overproduction crisis? They seem to want to reduce the working week .. Read the classics ... THERE IS NO FORMATION IN WHICH CAPITALISM CAN EVOLVE ,,Lenin "Imperialism as the Highest Stage of Capitalism"
            2. solzh
              solzh 24 September 2020 23: 52
              18
              Quote: Trotil42
              read the classics..Lenin for example..there is clearly written what socialism is

              VI Lenin The impending catastrophe and how to deal with it. September 1917.
              socialism is nothing more than a state-capitalist monopoly, turned to the benefit of the whole people and so far ceased to be a capitalist monopoly
              https://www.marxists.org/russkij/lenin/works/disaster.htm
  • rruvim
    rruvim 24 September 2020 17: 03
    +2
    You damn it, it's better to publish the income and expenses of the Rotenberg brothers than penny this chekist!
  • rruvim
    rruvim 24 September 2020 17: 22
    +1
    I don’t understand! What's the question? The entire tax office looks after IE Navalny, the FSB looks after the bank that carries out transactions, where is the FBK account. Even if Lyosha fired, he is immediately recorded by the relevant authorities. And according to the accounts of him and his close ones, even more so. But the "newbie" was missed ... Where are the "cover" from the FSB? The youth were recruited into the office, unreasonable?
  • KMS
    KMS 24 September 2020 18: 35
    -2
    A strange article and the author too .. Honestly, from all this already sick to hiccups .. Maybe enough to rock Russia *?
    1. solzh
      solzh 24 September 2020 23: 37
      18
      Quote: KMS
      A strange article and the author too .. Honestly, from all this already sick to hiccups .. Maybe enough to rock Russia *?

      Russia is not rocked by the author of the article. Russia is shaken by bourgeois-oligarchic capitalism.
      1. zontov79
        zontov79 26 September 2020 20: 31
        +1
        These are the authors who are to blame for everything, not the king.))
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 24 September 2020 18: 40
    0
    Quote: rruvim
    I don’t understand! What's the question? The entire tax office looks after IE Navalny, the FSB looks after the bank that carries out transactions, where is the FBK account. Even if Lyosha fired, he is immediately recorded by the relevant authorities. And according to the accounts of him and his close ones, even more so. But the "newbie" was missed ... Where are the "cover" from the FSB? The youth were recruited into the office, unreasonable?

    The most interesting thing is that people are being held for fools. Putin says that Navalny poisoned himself! You're the best Chekist! Where is the lined up position? Or we have people walking around with a chemical warfare agent, but we will not start a case - this is the position. Mead carries nonsense, Sands too. And most importantly, all versions differ. What to say about other security officers, if the most important Ivanushka is d ...
    1. zontov79
      zontov79 26 September 2020 20: 33
      +1
      Yes, speaking mustaches carry a blizzard, however, as always.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 24 September 2020 18: 57
    0
    Quote: KMS
    A strange article and the author too .. Honestly, from all this already sick to hiccups .. Maybe enough to rock Russia *?

    there are officials who quietly drill the boat, and there is Navalny, who runs after these officials and points at them. And then you appear, who says stop swinging. Yes, you are EXPERT!
    1. nnm
      25 September 2020 21: 10
      0
      Already burst into tears)))))
  • Rokambol
    Rokambol 24 September 2020 21: 23
    +6
    Navalny. The mind, honor and conscience of our era?

    I don't know about Navalny's mind, but he has no honor or conscience at all. Bulk enemy of the people.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 24 September 2020 22: 01
    +3
    Quote: Rocumball
    Navalny. The mind, honor and conscience of our era?

    I don't know about Navalny's mind, but he has no honor or conscience at all. Bulk enemy of the people.

    And who are the people? Heroes of his investigations? Who are the rest? Serfs?
    1. solzh
      solzh 24 September 2020 23: 31
      13
      Quote: imobile2008
      And who are the people?

      Citizens of the Russian Federation.
      Quote: imobile2008
      Serfs?

      Igor, have you already got yourself a master?
  • awesom3-lutsevich
    awesom3-lutsevich 24 September 2020 22: 32
    -3
    Lesha got off with mild diarrhea, will soon come to fight for the happiness of the working people
  • Marine72
    Marine72 25 September 2020 04: 41
    0
    With a slight movement of the hand, the once beautiful VO site turns .. turns into nightingale droppings .. sad
    1. nnm
      25 September 2020 21: 09
      0
      Come on))) seriously? ))))
  • adler87
    adler87 25 September 2020 08: 17
    +3
    That's what the FBK exists for, I'm not interested, but what our civil servants live on and why our civil servants have wild fortunes is very interesting, and that's what Navalny is talking about. It is very interesting why there are no investigations by the prosecutor's office on many of Navalny's materials.
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 25 September 2020 14: 56
      +1
      Have you seen on whom these materials Navalny? On the friends of the most important, on selflessly devoted lackeys. That is why these lackeys are allowed to steal, they are allowed to receive salaries of millions and the chief does not want to judge them.
  • nnm
    25 September 2020 21: 08
    0
    Now, these vicissitudes of fate ... just started preparing an article on paragraph 3, and then ROSNEFTEGAZ won ...
    I've been collecting documents for a week! Here you are villains!)))
  • zontov79
    zontov79 26 September 2020 20: 27
    0
    God bless him with Navalny, what are we going to do with electricity tariffs, the increase of which was approved by the bastards in the government headed by the tsar. I think that the tsar is once again being substituted by the bad boyars. !!!
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 27 September 2020 21: 43
    -1
    Naval - do not start back in the Russian Federation! Let it smell in Germany, it doesn't smell like that. drinks