The Marine Corps can receive the "marine" BMP-3F

The Russian marines may receive the BMP-3F infantry fighting vehicles. The final decision will be made following the results of the Kavkaz-2020 strategic command and staff exercises. Reported by "News" with reference to sources in the Ministry of Defense.

The military department will make the final decision on equipping the marines with the BMP-3F after the KSHU Kavkaz-2020, during which the marines on the BMP-3F will act during the roleplaying of the episodes on the Caspian coast.

BMP-3F - "naval" modification of the BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicle, distinguished by greater buoyancy. It is equipped with a lightweight water-reflecting flap, a telescopic air intake pipe, and water-reflecting flaps on the tower. Able to move on water with waves of three points, and with 2 points to conduct aimed fire. The speed afloat is 10 km / h, with the engine running, it can be in the water for up to 7 hours.

It is assumed that the BMP will replace the floating Tanks PT-76, used during the Soviet army, but already withdrawn from service. Currently, only the BTR-82 is in service with the marines and there is no equipment with more powerful weapons. Recently, the marines began to be armed with tanks, but they cannot be used at the first stage of the landing when seizing a bridgehead, they operate only on the ground. At the same time, the BMP-3F carries a 2-mm caliber 70A100 cannon capable of hitting armored vehicles and sheltered targets.

Note that although the BMP-3F was developed about 10 years ago, it is not in service with the Russian army, a certain amount of equipment is in trial operation. The only country that has adopted the BMP-3F into service is Indonesia, which purchased 2009 BMP-2012Fs in 54 and 3 and entered into a new contract in 2019 for 22 BMP-3Fs and 21 BT-3F armored personnel carriers, created on the basis of this BMP.

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[Hunter 2]

Great news! For the Marines

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Hunter 2

For the Marine Corps

And it's the second day of our cannonade from the Raevsky training ground. The Novorossiysk landing party reflects the landing of the marines of the conditional enemy on the sea coast.
"Caucasus-2020"!

[tralflot1832]

Lucky you. I remember Murmansk in the 80s, the approach or takeoff of the Be 12 is just above my house at any time of the day, even if you check your watch!

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: tralflot1832

Be 12 just above my house

Just a couple of Dryers went to the second round!

[22 dmdc]

Be-12s were stationed at Safonovo-1.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Hunter 2

Great news!

And yes, unusual. Alexei, And unusual because earlier the MP was always equipped with materiel according to the residual principle. The same PT-76 and 2s1 "Carnation" in the old days got "at a markdown" from the landowners. And here is a machine developed by a specialist for the needs of the Marines - even a little awkward from such luxury.

[Military77]

At the same time, the BMP-3F carries a cannon 2А40 100 mm caliber

What kind of beast is this? There is 2A70 - 100-mm gun for BMP-3, and 2A40 - tower ZPRK 2K22, 2K22M. This is what thoughtless copy-paste leads to.

[Daniil Konovalenko]

The only country that has adopted the BMP-3F into service is Indonesia, which purchased 2009 BMP-2012Fs in 54 and 3 and concluded a new contract in 2019 for 22 BMP-3Fs and 21 BT-3F armored personnel carriers, created on the basis of this BMP

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The Russian marines may receive the BMP-3F infantry fighting vehicles. The final decision will be made following the results of the Kavkaz-2020 strategic command and staff exercises.

[garri-lin]

I heard that there are side screens with positive buoyancy for BMP 3. The size is added a lot. But they also increase the protection. And buoyancy, respectively. A good reason to introduce it into the standard package.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: garri-lin

there are side screens with positive buoyancy.

On "Kurganets-25" they are exactly like that (with active protection).

[garri-lin]

I'm talking about BMP 3. Perhaps created on the basis of those for Kurganets. I don't remember where infa came from.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: garri-lin

specifically about BMP 3

[garri-lin]

She seems to be. Great for the fleet.

[Thomas N.]

The first photo is out of topic. She is wearing a BMP-3 with an old (1999) set of DZ from the Research Institute of Steel.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Thomas N.

The first photo is out of topic.

This development is not new, but why not the topic? In the photo, the BMP goes ashore after overcoming a water barrier, that is, at least these blocks do not reduce the vehicle's buoyancy.

[Thomas N.]

Quote: Bad_gr

This development is not new, but why not the topic? In the photo, the BMP goes ashore after overcoming a water barrier, that is, at least these blocks do not reduce the vehicle's buoyancy.

The topic of the article was "The Marine Corps can be armed with the" naval "BMP-3F". "Water barrier" and the sea are not exactly the same :-). Are you sure that the first photo shows a modification of the BMP-3F designed specifically for the marines? If so, then I am wrong, but I do not see in this photo the large telescopic air intake pipe, which is clearly visible in the photo at the beginning of the article at the back of the car.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Thomas N.

Are you sure that in the first photo it is the BMP-3F modification,

No, I didn't say that. Photo on the topic

Quote: garri-lin

I heard that there are side screens with positive buoyancy for BMP 3.

[Per se.]

Finally, the turn has come, not all the Indonesian marines are happy.

[RMT]

Who knows why Indonesia bought military equipment not in service with the manufacturing country? And no one at all. The price is nowhere lower or what?

[URAL72]

Why not standing? It is not very different from the land. And not only Russia has the latter.

[Piramidon]

Quote: RMT

Who knows why Indonesia bought military equipment that is not in service with the manufacturing country?

Look at the map. Indonesia is solid islands.

[Boris Chernikov]

because the Ukrainians ruined the order if my memory serves me right

[Bobik012]

Quote: RMT

Who knows why Indonesia bought military equipment not in service with the manufacturing country? And no one at all. The price is nowhere lower or what?

There is a lot of bo sea in Indonesia. Is it worth it or not, the third question. Apparently, they need it more than we do.

[KVU-NSVD]

and concluded a new contract in 2019 for 22 BMP-3F and 21 armored personnel carriers

Looks good, since the contract is being extended ..

[Daniil Konovalenko]

As they say about Indonesia, a country of 1000 islands .. For this machine with its buoyancy and weapons, the most is that. Convenient and effective.

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Daniil Konovalenko

..For this machine with its buoyancy and armament, that's the very thing. Convenient and effective

It is a pity that our troops are few. But there are a lot of yells about the T-15, although for me two-thirds in the troops are better for a three-ruble note, and a third (and no more) for a heavy infantry fighting vehicle

[Daniil Konovalenko]

Such an impression that the T-14, T-15 were created for parades, like the T-35 ..

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Daniil Konovalenko

Such an impression that the T-14, T-15 were created for parades, like the T-35 ..

So far, unfortunately, only for parades. Combat units mainly ride on the second (or even the first) bekhs and Soviet armored vehicles.

[Daniil Konovalenko]

But it would seem that there is, simple and tasteful ..

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Daniil Konovalenko

And it would seem in

Indeed ... But the rearmament of the state is not spillikins; there will not be enough money or production capacity for everything at once.

[tatarin1972]

Talk that the Marine Corps will arm the BMP-3F since the early 2000s has finally "been born", God forbid! During my service, we had BTR-80, PT-76 and T-55, the latter looked like a complete anachronism.

[mag nit]

May receive, or may not receive ...

[Pavel57]

It is now fashionable to repair old tanks - a new turret would be installed on the PT-76, from the same BMP-3, for example.

[tatarin1972]

What for??? The BMP-3 will be newer and faster than the PT-76.

[Boris Chernikov]

the materiel is worn out .. I'm not at all sure that the 76th ammunition remained in the units .. yes, and the capital will fly into a cost comparable to the purchase of new cars .. even more so that the fleet does not need tanks, namely that BMPs .. to land troops on the BTR-82A is not comme il faut

[Doliva63]

Quote: Pavel57

It is now fashionable to repair old tanks - a new turret would be installed on the PT-76, from the same BMP-3, for example.

It's funny. Have you ever exploited the PT-76 thread? They were in our school. This is tin! Replacing the tower will never save him.

[pereselenec]

The marines can get into service with a modification of the BMP-3, which was developed in 1987, 33 years ago

Super! And when will the "Boomerangs" with the "Kurgan people" be?

[Boris Chernikov]

so they don't need current here yet .. let the order for 500 bmp-3f be signed in order to close at least half of the demand in armor, and then let them continue to play "spillikins"

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Boris Chernikov

let the order for 500 bmp-3f be signed in order to close at least half of the demand in armor

And how many large landing ships does the Russian Navy have? - 16 BDK project 775 and 4 BDK project 1171 "Tamir" + 2 ships of project 11711 "Ivan Gren" and under construction "Pyotr Morgunov" + 2 11711 laid in 2019. It can first prepare landing ships, infantry fighting vehicles are needed for the marines, but without a large landing craft, these are "coastal troops" and their buoyancy is not important.

[Boris Chernikov]

you have a perverse logic .. it turns out that until they buy a sufficient number of large landing ships, the Marines should have a bare butt? technology, and they still have a modern BTR-82A, which is far from a super-wunderwolf ...

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Boris Chernikov

the likelihood of the participation of marines in real hostilities is much higher - therefore, they must have modern military equipment, and they still have from a modern BTR-82A, which is far from a super-wunderwaffle ...

To participate in "real combat operations", the Pacific Fleet Marines were given 10 T-80BV ... and so on. When the marines are used as "infantry in vests" - then the composition of the weapons needs "heavy" - they will not have to swim. The BTR-82A will only come in handy after the tanks - just go ...

[Boris Chernikov]

no comment .. I advise you personally on the BTR-82A for tanks into battle "just go" ..

[cat Rusich]

And just on the road, highway, autobahn ...? Maybe we will give the BTR-82A a "chance" ... Or suggest your own version of "vehicles for tanks" ... or on foot?

[Boris Chernikov]

maybe you need to use the equipment where you need it? the marines need an armored vehicle, full-fledged, with normal protection and weapons .. an armored personnel carrier is an armored personnel carrier, you don't need to make an armored personnel carrier out of it ... but it’s ridiculous to select the best soldiers, teach them and give them in support of armored personnel carriers with light bulletproof protection and a 30 mm cannon, which cannot use the newest shells ...

I would understand if the BTR-82AT were still going ..

[cat Rusich]

In principle, I agree with you ...

Quote: Boris Chernikov

maybe you need to use the equipment where you need it? the marines need an armored vehicle, full-fledged, with normal protection and weapons .. an armored personnel carrier is an armored personnel carrier, you don't need to make an armored personnel carrier out of it ... but it’s ridiculous to select the best soldiers, teach them and give them in support of armored personnel carriers with light bulletproof protection and a 30 mm cannon, which cannot use the newest shells ...

I would understand if the BTR-82AT were still going ..

And you can send your proposal to the Ministry of Defense of Russia - by registered mail or by e-mail ... But what else to do?

[Boris Chernikov]

I will be satisfied with the bmp-3f .. even more so that if necessary, you can put a 57 mm module on it .. let's say 1 module per platoon

[cat Rusich]

To support the landing and support in battle, the platoon will come in handy ...

2S23 Nona SVK or

2C31 Vienna. The mortar is a very useful thing in battle - it can work in closed positions and from closed positions (compensating for the "thin armor")

[Boris Chernikov]

Iii? Will you throw Nona into battle in the first row too? That's why I'm getting away with our people .. for 10 years everyone was shouting and yelling that the Marines needed a BMP-3f .. When they said what they would think .. started screaming that she was not needed for nothing. ..

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Boris Chernikov

Iii? Will you also throw Nona into battle in the first row?

NO !!! We use Vienna and Nona from the second or even the third row - from "closed positions" and "from closed positions". MTLB is useful for landing as a "truck" for soldiers and ammunition. And to combat MBT and BMP enemy - use Kornet-T

or Chrysanthemum-C

A soldier into battle only equipped and covered with equipment.

[Boris Chernikov]

those. propose to take even more wretched equipment? which is generally created as a cargo transporter? enough already..bmp-3f period.

[cat Rusich]

BMP-3 - landing of 5 people, MT-LB - landing of 11 people ... Count for yourself how many machines you need to land a hundred marines. MT-LB is needed as a "truck" for delivering marines from the BDK to the shore. The BMP-3F should be used as a fire support vehicle - and instead of the landing force, load an additional ammo.

[Boris Chernikov]

hmm .. no comments .. when you get up from the throne, do not forget to wash it off ..

[Nikolaevich I]

Enta's news reminded me of an anecdote ... "Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev is walking along the Kremlin corridor, and Suslov is meeting him ... Brezhnev asks Suslov: Have you read my book" Small Land "? But what about, Leonid Ilyich! A wonderful book and instructive for young people , for the entire Soviet people! ... Brezhnev goes further ... Andropov goes towards ... Brezhnev: Have you read my book? Of course you read it! This masterpiece will be read in the 21st century! Brezhnev entered the office and thought: This is necessary ! Maybe I should read it too!? ... This I mean that the Russian Armed Forces "became interested" in the BMP-3F, after 10 years of operation of this device in Indonesia!

[Pavel57]

What for??? The BMP-3 will be newer and faster than the PT-76.

Sometimes money for upgrades is easier to get.

In Indonesia, at the end of the 1990s, PT-76s were modernized, they were equipped with new engines, transmissions and 90-mm Kokkeril cannons. These machines are designated in Western press as PT-2000.

[Boris Chernikov]

and since when did the PT-76 become an infantry fighting vehicle?

[Pavel57]

Quote: Boris Chernikov

and since when did the PT-76 become an infantry fighting vehicle?

He has never been.

[Evil 55]

The car is more than 30 years old .. There is another element base, and more promising designs. Maybe it's time to think about the future, and not be content with the achievements of the Soviet Union .. although the best for the period of the 80s of the last century.

[unhappy]

It's like the history of the invention of the bicycle. Why invent?
The United States Marine Corps has the richest history and experience. Landing and fire support are not in "one bottle". Why do they use "seaworthy sheds" and not small armored infantry fighting vehicles?

[Pavel57]

Quote: cat Rusich

The BMP-3F should be used as a fire support vehicle - and instead of the landing force, load an additional ammo.

Separate the infantry delivery vehicle and the support vehicle.

[svp67]

It is assumed that the BMP will replace the PT-76 amphibious tanks for the marines, which were used during the Soviet army, but already withdrawn from service. Currently, only the BTR-82 is in service with the marines and there is no equipment with more powerful weapons.

Something like that they all mixed ...
PT-76 went to the tank and reconnaissance units, it turns out that she will go there? Wouldn't it have been better then to send the Octopus to the tank units?
And earlier, the MP was also armed with BMP-2, they are already getting everything, they were written off ...
For me, it is better to give these BMP-3f to replace the BTR-82 ... to the Russian MP unit

[Sergei N 58912062]

The BMP-3F is just an upgrade of the BMP-3, a vehicle for the ground forces with the ability to swim.
Our marines have long been in need of specialized equipment. She needs an analogue of the Chinese ZBD-05.