"Often the Germans resorted to tricks": from the memoirs of an American tanker during the Second World War

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In the published archival materials, memoirs, the writings of historians, there are many testimonies of the Red Army soldiers who had to face the enemy face to face. The memoirs of servicemen from the armies of the allied countries of the anti-Hitler coalition, published in our country in Russian, are piece goods.

In the material on the Alexnott channel, such material is presented. The plot tells about the memories of an American tanker. American recalls how he had to face the Germans in battles tanks "Tiger" and "Panther".



An American soldier tells how the tanks of the US Army were knocked out by the Nazis with anti-tank grenade launchers - "Faustpatrones".

From the story:

The Germans often resorted to tricks. Driving along the road, the commander notices a group of soldiers ahead with their hands up. We stopped. The tank on the right continued to move. Having approached them, he also stopped. The Germans shouted loudly. Then a soldier with a grenade launcher appeared from behind them and shot at that tank. The tank caught fire. Our shooter opened fire on them from a machine gun, the infantry also began to shoot. We never knew if they wanted to surrender or if it was a trap.

All the details from the story of the American tanker are presented in the video:

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  1. +1
    21 September 2020 13: 29
    Apparently, since then, they have been firing in vain for everything, then they will figure it out. In the corpses. The Germans are to blame
    1. +7
      21 September 2020 13: 35
      The Germans are to blame

      Dmitry, do you remember who unleashed the Second World War?
      1. +14
        21 September 2020 13: 39
        Yes, everyone already remembered that the United States attacked the USSR, and Germany and the USSR, in an alliance, reflected the Allied aggression from 1939 to 1991. And ended with the collapse of the USSR and the occupation of allied Germany
        wassat wassat
        It's a joke, of course, you just read the articles on the same TopVar and you get such a feeling.
        1. +8
          21 September 2020 13: 49
          It depends on whom to read, and even about the "world behind the scenes" led by "reptilians" can be subtracted. laughing
        2. -1
          26 September 2020 03: 20
          Quote: BlackMokona
          Yes, everyone already remembered that the United States attacked the USSR, and Germany and the USSR, in an alliance, reflected the Allied aggression from 1939 to 1991. And ended with the collapse of the USSR and the occupation of allied Germany
          wassat wassat
          It's a joke, of course, you just read the articles on the same TopVar and you get such a feeling.

          This joke is not on Topwar, but in American school history books.
          1. -2
            26 September 2020 07: 32
            Can you give me such a tutorial? laughing
            1. 0
              26 September 2020 08: 42
              Quote: BlackMokona
              Can you give me such a tutorial? laughing

              Pzhalsta ... I apologize in advance for the huge quote

              France.

              French schoolchildren learn about World War II from a story about the then "threat of fascism and communism." What happened is described through terms such as "totalitarianism", "cruelty", "suppression of dissent."
              History textbooks for high school, for example, talk about the Battle of Stalingrad in just two paragraphs. The same amount of space is devoted to explaining the role of the Red Army in the liberation of Eastern Europe. The opening of the second front was called the decisive moment. It is emphasized: "In 1942, Washington creates the Grand Alliance, which includes all countries fighting against Germany with the allies. They mobilize all their economic potential for victory and become the" arsenal of democracy. "
              The main fronts of the Second World War, according to French historians, are the battle on the Pacific coast (Midway, Guadalcanal), in North Africa, and only then - the Battle of Stalingrad.
              The conclusion follows: "The war is ended by the Americans, who, using atomic weapons, led Japan to surrender."

              United Kingdom.
              About the events of 1941, when Germany invaded the Soviet Union, British textbooks mention only in passing. Much attention is paid to 1942, when the main battles with the participation of the royal troops took place. Describes campaigns in North Africa, Italy, Normandy.
              The battles of Stalingrad and Kursk are mentioned in several sentences. And not a word about the fact that these battles were turning points in the Second World War.
              Entire paragraphs tell us that the subjects of the crown fought on the fronts to defend liberal values ​​and eradicate totalitarianism and dictatorship in the world. It is emphasized that the British during the Second World War began to be perceived as a special brand. Its key characteristics were exclusivity, dissimilarity from other nations, spirituality and strict adherence to the values ​​of democracy and liberalism.
              According to British historians, it was London that played a major role in the victory over fascism. It is explained to high school students that "Great Britain stood alone but firmly under the leadership of Winston Churchill, setting an example to the whole world." At the same time, the victory over fascism became possible thanks to the battles in the Pacific Ocean and on the Eastern Front, according to history textbooks.

              Germany. .
              The study of World War II was included in the curricula of schools in the Federal Republic of Germany in the late 1960s. The textbooks harshly criticized the arbitrariness that the Nazis repaired, but at the same time emphasized the initially peaceful nature of the Germans.
              If Russian textbooks analyze the activity of the fronts, the course of hostilities and the amount of equipment, then in Germany the story of the war is based on memories and letters of front-line soldiers.
              Special attention is paid to the Allied landings in Normandy. At the same time, neither the Kursk Bulge, nor Operation Bagration, nor the Battle of Berlin appear in the text. Also in the book - not a word about the fact that most of the Wehrmacht forces were on the Eastern Front. It is noted: "Gradually the allies (Great Britain, France, the United States and the Soviet Union) have achieved success."

              And, finally, the "icing on the cake" - USA.
              If in Russian textbooks the main illustration of Victory is the hoisting of a red banner over the Reichstag, in American it is a photograph of American soldiers setting a star-striped flag on a mountain after the capture of Iwo Jima in Japan. The war against Japan is given much more attention than the confrontation of Germany.
              The USSR is first mentioned when the story comes to the Battle of Stalingrad, it is given five paragraphs. But it is indicated that this was a turning point in the war. Of the Soviet personalities, only Joseph Stalin is mentioned.
              It is also not clear from the textbook who took Berlin. It is indicated that American troops approached the German capital from the west, while Soviet troops crossed the Oder River on April 16, 1945. “Five days later, they reached the outskirts of Berlin,” the book says. Immediately after this, it is said that Hitler shot himself in his bunker, and the German command tried to surrender to the Americans and the British, continuing to fight the Soviet army. However, future President Dwight D. Eisenhower "insisted on unconditional surrender", which was adopted on May 7.
              1. -1
                26 September 2020 10: 18
                So you are my textbooks, and not someone else's rantings. I, too, can invent anything without problems.
      2. +10
        21 September 2020 13: 41
        Quote: Sea Cat
        Dmitry, do you remember who unleashed the Second World War?

        The question is very difficult ... by and large, the Entente countries are to blame for this
        1. -7
          21 September 2020 13: 46
          Entente countries, i.e. Russia, Britain, France and the USA? wassat
          Are you zigging there by chance? wassat
          1. +6
            21 September 2020 15: 04
            Quote: BlackMokona
            Entente countries, i.e. Russia, Britain, France

            Yes, the Entente countries, but without Russia and with the United States that joined them, when they forced Germany to sign the terms of surrender, following the results of WWI
            1. -8
              21 September 2020 15: 10
              And Germany needed to impose a softer peace so that Hitler was even stronger or was it necessary to completely destroy Germany?
              1. +6
                21 September 2020 15: 14
                Quote: BlackMokona
                And Germany needed to impose a softer peace so that Hitler was even stronger or was it necessary to completely destroy Germany?

                Hitler came to power thanks to the fact that Germany, in general and its population, in particular, was "robbed like a sticky thing." And many politicians in Europe understood this, but not those who were in power in the victorious countries at that moment.
                1. -5
                  21 September 2020 15: 29
                  Robbed how sticky? Have you seen the Peace of Brest, for example? Yes, Versailles compared to him is just a kindergarten and a lollipop feeding.
                  They took a couple of areas of France back, limited military spending and demanded a bit of money. Which the United States gave to Germany so that they could pay France and Britain so that they could buy goods from the United States. Germany forgave itself credits as well as reparations in the end.
                  1. +12
                    21 September 2020 15: 41
                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    and demanded a bit of money.

                    Yes? You have a strange concept of "a bit"
                    The Versailles Peace Treaty determined the amount of reparations amounting to 269 billion gold marks, which was the equivalent of about 100 thousand tons of gold. Destroyed and weakened by the economic crisis at the beginning of the 20s, and then by the Great Depression, Germany was not able to pay such colossal reparations and was forced to constantly borrow from other states to fulfill the terms of the treaty. The amount was reduced by the reparations commission to 132 billion
                    HUNDRED THIRTY-TWO BILLION GOLD STAMPS. How many countries are able to pay this amount now, even without taking into account changes in the exchange rate?
                    1. -2
                      21 September 2020 15: 44
                      Compared to the damage from Germany's aggression, a bit.
                      And exactly what Germany could not pay in any way, in the course of its aggression drove its economy to the bottom. Therefore, the United States had to give this colossal money to Germany in order for them to pay it. And then Hitler forgave all these debts to himself.
                      It remains now to find out whether the Germans paid even a penny of their money, and not from American pockets.
                      1. +7
                        21 September 2020 16: 05
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        It remains now to find out whether the Germans paid even a penny of their money,

                        Yes, before the 24th year and after the 45th they paid themselves, without external borrowing, they had super-hyperinflation and impoverishment of the population, which helped to form the National Socialist and Communist parties in Germany.
                        And after the 24th year, they returned debts and paid also interest.
                      2. -4
                        21 September 2020 16: 09
                        Only now they didn’t pay anything before American loans, there was no money to pay.
                        Germany sabotaged the payments and, in fact, deliberately went into a situation of hyperinflation in 1923, when payments, due to the rapid depreciation, lost all meaning. This extreme point of view is also not entirely justified, but the fact remains that the German population perceived the situation of hyperinflation quite calmly and did not cause any social unrest, and the situation with payments itself was settled only on the consent of the German side to accept payment with borrowed funds from the United States in account of accepting this debt to Germany. That is, Germany paid with other people's money and only wrote it down in its own debt (which, in a historical perspective, after World War II, was actually written off by the United States)
                      3. +3
                        21 September 2020 16: 57
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        which in a historical perspective after World War II was

                        Redeemed by Germany in 2010 ...
                      4. -4
                        21 September 2020 17: 00
                        And again
                        After the Second World War and the formation of the Federal Republic of Germany in 1949, the Foreign Ministers of the United States, Britain and France obliged her to return to paying debts under the Treaty of Versailles. In 1953, according to the London Treaty, which lost part of the territory of Germany, it was allowed not to pay interest until unification

                        The unification of Germany on October 3 of October 1990 entailed the “reanimation” of its reparation obligations under the Treaty of Versailles. 20 years were allotted to Germany to pay off debts, for which the country had to take a twenty-year loan of 239,4 million marks.

                        After this period, on October 4, 2010, the German Federal Bank made the last payment for the monetary obligations related to reparations, and thus these obligations were fully fulfilled by Germany. [1] [2]. The insignificance of the amounts paid is confirmed by the formal and politically determined nature of these payments.

                        They demanded to pay the last unpaid penny to the British and French and again with the help of American money. Yes, how is that wassat
                      5. +4
                        21 September 2020 17: 03
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        ... Yes, how is that

                        Yeah ... you have some kind of childish performance. Borrow a loan and then pay it off by taking a loan ...
                      6. -4
                        21 September 2020 17: 05
                        So I'm not a country to be forgiven or I forgive everyone around my debts. Collectors will break into my home with bailiffs by the hand and take out everything to a penny. And the apartment will be taken away and they will put me in jail.
                        Now, if the Entente troops broke into Germany in 20 years and took everything out on payments, then there would definitely not be any Hitler. There would be no resources to start a war
                      7. +2
                        21 September 2020 17: 12
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        Collectors will break into my home

                        So they broke into, did you hear about the Ruhr conflict?
                      8. -4
                        21 September 2020 17: 14
                        Oh yes, they occupied the whole country and demanded money with an iron boot. No, complete failure
                        The entry of the occupying forces caused a wave of popular anger in the Weimar Republic. The government, headed by the non-partisan Reich Chancellor Wilhelm Cuno, called on the population to "passive resistance." The payment of reparations was stopped, industry, administrative apparatus and transport were engulfed in a general strike.
                      9. +2
                        22 September 2020 07: 59
                        I disagree that everything was calm. Read the same Remark. It is difficult to suspect him of pro-Nazi sentiments. Poverty, hunger, crime reigned then in Germany.
                      10. +2
                        22 September 2020 13: 22
                        ".... Poverty, hunger, crime reigned then in Germany. ..."
                        - uh .... and WHERE were they then - NOT "reigned"?
                        And even today - WHERE they DO NOT "reign" - maybe in the USA ?!

                        - Among the 0,1 percent of US households that own wealth, which is owned by 90 percent of households in the lower strata of the population - there is definitely NOT "reigning" there,
                        - but among 90 percent of households of the lower strata of the population - oh-oh-oh-like "TSARIT" ...

                        In May 2018, Philip Alston, UN Special Rapporteur on Extreme Poverty and Human Rights, released a report that states that the United States has the largest income gap among Western countries. According to the report, 40 million Americans live in poverty, and 18,5 million live in EXTREME NOTHING ...

                        - and you say "reparations" ...
                      11. 0
                        22 September 2020 07: 11
                        So it is. However, one should not ignore the fact that near-fascist positions were then occupied by many people in different social services. layers throughout Europe. And the NSDAP was the result in Germany. And then there were Italians, Spaniards, Swedes ... In England they were crushed - there, apparently, the government was already too right laughing
                  2. +3
                    21 September 2020 16: 27
                    ... and the loans were recalled during the crisis, which, coupled with the demand to pay not only reparations, but also interest on loans, put Germany in a state of one such large extermination camp. In such a situation, not that Hitler would have been brought to power. even Pavlensky, with eggs nailed to the paving stones, would have been crowned right on the square, if only he had let him eat today. Moreover, read the memoirs about the transfer of Brest to the Red Army, how in the 39th year the Germans exchanged ammunition from the Red Army for rations. Or how in the 41st reports were written about the database. The first lines - how much grain, cattle, oil were seized ... In the end, so, in between, with whom they fought, what is the result, what losses are less important, when there is nothing to eat in the Reich
                    1. -6
                      21 September 2020 16: 47
                      Nechert was not recalled, he was written off at the end of the Second World War. And they also gave new ones to restore the FRG. And they loved to rob, that they could not send reports about the loot.
                      1. +4
                        21 September 2020 16: 50
                        Yes, you say sho! Was it written off after the Second World War? And BEFORE World War II? After that, I don't care - the Germans did not own anything, the occupation administration rules!
                      2. -5
                        21 September 2020 16: 58
                        And before the Second World War they gave actively.
                        They did not have time to demand, Germany declared war on the Americans.
                      3. +3
                        21 September 2020 16: 59
                        Quote: Cowbra
                        Was it written off after the Second World War?

                        In 2010, after Germany repaid the last tranche
                      4. +4
                        21 September 2020 16: 58
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        Nechert was not recalled, he was written off at the end of the Second World War.

                        No, not written off
                      5. -6
                        21 September 2020 17: 03
                        Have written off written off, you do not confuse the British with the French with the USA.
                        It was the USA who wrote off, but those guys did not
                      6. +2
                        21 September 2020 17: 08
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        It was the USA who wrote off, but those guys did not

                        And they did not write off. During the year of occupation, from 23 to 24, France siphoned off from 5 to 7 billion marks from the German Ruhr ...
                      7. -4
                        21 September 2020 17: 10
                        And again you tell me about France, which received American money through Germany. Well, Germany did not have the money to pay and there was no desire to pay.
                        And the French and British could not lead the troops and knock out debts.
              2. +4
                21 September 2020 15: 32
                Marshal Foch, was very dissatisfied with the terms of the Versailles Treaty. Therefore, he called it a truce for a period of 20 years and was not mistaken.
              3. +5
                21 September 2020 15: 53
                Quote: BlackMokona
                And Germany needed to impose a softer peace so that Hitler was even stronger or was it necessary to completely destroy Germany?

                belay fool In a soft world, after WWI, there would be no Hitler. Britain and the United States would have needed Hitler, but Germany would not have followed him. No hunger, devastation, humiliation - no thirst for revenge.
                Wherein. The problem of the existence of the USSR remained, the problem of the market for the colonies of England remained, the problem of the global crisis of the 30s remained and the Naglo-Saxons would try to solve them in an unknown, different version. request
                1. -4
                  21 September 2020 15: 56
                  Hunger and devastation were already present before the conclusion of the Versailles Peace.
                  The German economy has pierced the bottom during the aggression.
                  And the thirst for revenge would appear even if the White Peace was concluded without changes and reparations. Since defeat is the failure to fulfill the goals that Germany has drawn itself to be huge.
                  1. +1
                    21 September 2020 16: 11
                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    Hunger and devastation were already present before the conclusion of the Versailles Peace Treaty. The German economy during the aggression pierced the bottom.
                    Where is the contradiction? fool
                    Naturally. 10 million men are fighting, instead of working and they need to be fed. Instead of tanks, they began to make tractors, etc. Without the defeat of industry, Germany would have instantly recovered. But she was robbed, and then oh, hunger.
                    1. -4
                      21 September 2020 16: 13
                      A huge bunch of men died in the war, the factories were not modernized and were converted to military.
                      Overhaul of everything and everyone saved, and so on.
                      War brings a million and one long-term economic disaster. Nothing would have recovered quickly there without American loans.
                      And they also paid reparations exclusively from American loans.
                      1. 0
                        21 September 2020 16: 27
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        A huge bunch of men died in the war, the factories were not modernized and were converted to military.
                        Overhaul of everything and everyone saved, and so on.
                        War brings a million and one long-term economic disaster. Nothing would have recovered quickly there without American loans.

                        Are you delusional? The war went on for 3 years, what a cap. repairs, modernization? The men died, there was no unemployment. Transfer to a peaceful track, it would be that, and when France uprooted the entire industry by the roots and not only the military-industrial complex, but products were exported to England, then hunger and the beginning.
                        Stop lying about American loans. Reparations were fought from Germany in full. And only when Hitler was found, then loans from the United States went, German reparations returned to German industry, already on a credit basis.
                      2. -4
                        21 September 2020 16: 45
                        Look, here in the comments I am giving quotes about how Germany paid.
                        Starve started during the war, and so on.
                  2. +1
                    22 September 2020 14: 41
                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    Hunger and devastation were already present before the conclusion of the Versailles Peace.
                    The German economy has pierced the bottom during the aggression.

                    During WWII, there was a war communism regime in Germany (in Soviet Russia during the Civil War, in Britain during WWII) - this is definitely not from a good life.
            2. +2
              21 September 2020 16: 30
              Why without Russia?
              Reparations in favor of Russia from Germany were also provided for in the Versailles agreement.
        2. +3
          21 September 2020 13: 46
          Cerney hi I meant a specific attack on one country against another. It was clearly not the Americans who attacked Poland. And global politics is a too complicated issue and there are so many "ties" in it, here everyone has a "stigma in the gun."
          1. +1
            21 September 2020 15: 05
            Quote: Sea Cat
            I was referring to a specific attack on one country against another.

            Well then, Germany and Slovakia, they invaded Poland on September 1, 1939
            1. +1
              21 September 2020 16: 10
              I remember about the Slovaks, I just didn't write.
        3. 0
          26 September 2020 00: 56
          Quote: svp67
          by and large, the Entente countries are strongly to blame for this


          More specifically, just a couple of very well-known families from these countries took part in the unleashing of the Great Massacre and the subsequent Great Redivision of the World.
      3. +5
        21 September 2020 13: 55
        There is no consensus. Someone counts from Japan's attack on China, someone from the Spanish Civil War, our people prefer the Munich agreement and the dismemberment of the Czech Republic, Europeans with the Americans and our brothers, Ukrainians, recently love the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. What do you think? And for what purpose are you interested? Does this somehow help to understand why the Yankees love to shoot at peaceful people?
        The only thing that can be said with confidence is that the USSR bore the greatest contribution and burden, and the USA received the greatest benefit.
        1. 0
          21 September 2020 14: 37
          What do you think? And for what purpose are you interested?

          I am interested in order to get an answer from you - you answered.
          I myself believe that concrete hostilities in Europe began with the German attack on Poland. I don't know how anyone and where they count now, but as far as I remember the school history course, according to it the Second World War began on September 1, 1939, I did not see another date.
          As for Japan and China, this is their "personal affair", because other countries did not "want" to get involved in this conflict, any "pacts and collusion" is not yet the beginning of a particular war.
          I completely agree with your last point.
          1. +2
            22 September 2020 14: 48
            Quote: Sea Cat
            As for Japan and China, this is their "personal affair", because other countries did not "want" to get involved in this conflict, any "pacts and collusion" is not yet the beginning of a particular war.

            The USA and the USSR took part in the conflict between Japan and China. Through the supply of weapons, sending "volunteers".
            And the United States also through economic sanctions against Japan. Which eventually led to the war between Japan and the United States.
            In Spain, Germany, Italy and the USSR directly participated in the war.
            1. -1
              22 September 2020 15: 27
              That's right: the supply of weapons, advisers and "volunteers", all of this cannot be compared with a real Great War. After all, not to consider the notorious "Condor" legion as a serious military force, they did not even wear the uniform of their country.
              1. +1
                22 September 2020 23: 37
                No ... Count it ... Our tanks were burning in Spain from German 37 mm anti-tank guns ... Yes, and the "Legion Condor" started the war on the poor Yu - 52, and ended on the Me-109 ... treat, and one of the best front-line fighters of World War II ...
                1. +1
                  23 September 2020 03: 58
                  Well, their tanks were burning just as well. Regarding the Me-109, you are certainly right, but in the "Legion" there were not only airplanes, but also "terrible" T-Is, which could be called tanks at a stretch.
              2. +1
                23 September 2020 15: 25
                Quote: Sea Cat
                That's right: the supply of weapons, advisers and "volunteers", all of this cannot be compared with a real Great War. After all, not to consider the notorious "Condor" legion as a serious military force, they did not even wear the uniform of their country.

                According to official figures from the Italian government, the cost of Italy's participation in the war amounted to 14 billion lire;
                150 thousand Italians took part in the hostilities in Spain on the side of the Francoists;
                the Francoists were supplied with 1000 aircraft, 950 armored vehicles, 7633 vehicles, 2 thousand artillery pieces, 241 thousand rifles, 324 million cartridges, 7,5 million shells, as well as 17 thousand air bombs, 2 submarines, 4 destroyers and other equipment and military property.
                There were also quite a few Germans:
                Orders and medals of the Third Reich for their participation in the war in Spain were awarded to 26 thousand German servicemen.
                This is a real big war.
      4. +9
        21 September 2020 14: 05
        The first and second world wars are one war in two stages ...
        Both stages are closely related to the creation of the Fed. As a result of the first, the FRS was created, as a result of the second, the Bretton Woods agreements were signed.
        1. +2
          21 September 2020 16: 32
          Here you hit the spot! Moreover, the most sick!
        2. +6
          21 September 2020 16: 39
          As a result, the first was created by the Fed
          The Fed was created in 1913.
      5. +1
        21 September 2020 15: 04
        “Dmitry, do you remember who unleashed the Second World War?

        Without the attack of Hitler's Germany on the USSR, the war would probably not have been called a world war, and that would have been unknown. Therefore, IMHO, the Second World War was unleashed by Hitler in 41.
      6. 0
        21 September 2020 15: 29
        Quote: Sea Cat
        Dmitry, do you remember who unleashed the Second World War?

        belay Forgotten? Ai poor thing. Let's remind what not to remind. The British and Americans prepared it, and who dropped the last straw? So who got a runny nose crying or drooling on the loot ran. what Something like this. request
        1. 0
          21 September 2020 17: 49
          Very figurative and completely meaningless. Not tired of repeating the same thing, you are our rich, (on WISE thoughts). laughing
      7. +2
        21 September 2020 17: 20
        If we count the participation of "heavyweights" as a world war, then on September 1939, XNUMX, England and France declared war on Germany. Unbelievable, but it is a fact. If we didn’t stand up for Poland (more precisely, if we didn’t use the German aggression as a casus belli, because there was no real help), then there would be only a conflict between two European countries.
        And the prelude to WWII is the Japanese aggression against China and the Spanish Civil War.
      8. +3
        21 September 2020 17: 21
        I remembered a poster that was hanging at the factory where I worked part-time in my youth. It depicts two planes, ours and an English one, and a strong handshake from the pilots, and bombs coming down from this handshake. And below the earth is on fire. And the postscript - "The brothers arranged a rendezvous over the enemy's city over the enemy city, fascist Germany burst out from their every handshake." 1944 poster. Nobody groaned at the "poor" Nazis.
      9. +2
        21 September 2020 17: 21
        Quote: Sea Cat
        The Germans are to blame

        Dmitry, do you remember who unleashed the Second World War?


        watch from 2 min 30 sec .. very informative
      10. +1
        22 September 2020 16: 29
        Quote: Sea Cat
        The Germans are to blame

        Dmitry, do you remember who unleashed the Second World War?


        And who stubbornly pushed the Germans to this and for some time supported the Germans by refusing the restrictions previously imposed on Germany?
      11. 0
        23 September 2020 07: 11
        Quote: Sea Cat
        who started the Second World War?

        Worldwide - England and France. Hitler unleashed the German-Polish.
    2. 0
      24 September 2020 11: 30
      Quote: Foxmara
      The Germans are to blame

      You have problems? With memory or in general?
  2. +8
    21 September 2020 14: 04
    Who would have thought: military tricks are used in war ...
  3. +7
    21 September 2020 14: 10
    [quote. The American recalls how he had to face the German tanks "Tiger" and "Panther" in battles.] [/ Quote] And on the exhaust there is a story about a setup with a faustpatron. It is unclear whether the author of the memoirs met with T-5 (6) or not. Yes, and an ambush from memories, either far-fetched, or arranged by ignoramuses from the Hitler Youth, such an ambush (according to the description) cannot stop the column, but the kirdyk is guaranteed ..
    1. +5
      22 September 2020 11: 20
      And I think so. The Germans were going to surrender, and some nutty Hitler youth jumped out. During the capture of Berlin, such cases were also noted.
      1. 0
        23 September 2020 06: 54
        I recall a fragment from the film Bunker. When a young man and a girl remain from the detachment, he shoots the girl (at her request, she zigzags at the same time), then at himself ..
  4. 0
    21 September 2020 15: 28
    Burn them all with a hot iron! And the point !!!
  5. +1
    21 September 2020 15: 32
    The Germans also had grenade launchers, panzershrek, in terms of firing range and accuracy, they were much ahead of the Faust cartridges. The Americans used aviation with might and main, and destroyed tanks very successfully. And about firing at any movement. I remember the Germans, led by Skorzeny, decided to organize a raid on the American-British rear, repainted the panthers to match American symbols, the crews recruited those who knew English. All thought out to the smallest detail, so what? But nothing. We stumbled upon a sentry who first shoots, and then let the chiefs figure it out. As a result, when he saw a column of tanks, he burned a couple of tanks from bazookas without further ado.
    1. 0
      21 September 2020 16: 46
      Only stopped the Germans there, the lack of fuel and the beginning of the Russian offensive on the eastern front. It seems that the allies even asked Stalin to launch an offensive as soon as possible in order to divert the Germans to themselves.
      In general, driving a wagon across Germany, I am amazed at the ingenuity and conscientiousness of the Germans, the most logical thinking nation in Europe, they do everything soundly, thoroughly, for centuries. They do not save on pennies where it is about the safety of people. German order and responsibility for the Ukrainian expanses would be like a second Khvrantia.)
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        22 September 2020 23: 26
        Here you drive your wagon across Europe, and "steer" further .... Three coups in 29 years .... Cool! "Banana" republic ... For the second "Storage" you need to have a different mentality ....
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    21 September 2020 16: 46
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    As a result, the first was created by the Fed
    The Fed was created in 1913.

    Well, not the result but the goal
    The goals of the First World War were the collapse of four empires, including the Russian, and even above all, the Russian. Moreover, in a cunning way - Russia and Germany had to destroy each other during this massacre.

    The main organizer of the First World War was a part of the British ruling stratum and their accomplices from the United States of America - the Anglo-American establishment. And it's no coincidence that the Federal Reserve System was created in 1913, a year before the outbreak of the First World War, to finance it and cash in on it. And the British began to prepare for the Russian-German battle at the very end of the 1880s.
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      22 September 2020 08: 01
      It seems to me everything was the other way around. Think back to when the US went to war. How England diligently dragged its former colony into the slaughter. For England, too, everything ended sadly - a ruined economy, the beginning of the collapse of the empire.
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        22 September 2020 11: 26
        England entered the 1st World War reluctantly. They were doing fine anyway: there were a lot of colonies, profits went on continuously.
        But France wanted revenge for the offensive defeat in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870. For this Russia signed a military treaty in 1892. And then England in 1907. The Entente was formed as an anti-German military alliance.
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    22 September 2020 18: 00
    Mattress cowboys feces in confrontation with the German army. And the mattress toppers themselves are only capable of finishing off the "game" mortally wounded by others. hi
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    22 September 2020 18: 07
    I'll get a lot of pi ... lei, but I consider the Sherman tank to be an underdog.
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      22 September 2020 23: 12
      And our tankers Shermans, in general, respected ... The tank was comfortable for the crew, and the gun was more decent than on the T - 34-76 ... The only drawback was poor stability on slippery front roads ... Read the memoirs of real participants in the battles ... And the anti-aircraft machine gun was not superfluous (our designers quickly picked up this topic). And the opinions of "amerikosov" are not worth a dime. The Japanese with the antediluvian "Arisaks" drove them throughout 1942 throughout the theater of operations ...
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