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"I do not see an opportunity to replace the volumes of cargo from the Russian Federation that we have lost" - head of the Latvian railway

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Maris Kleinbergs, Chairman of the Board of the State Enterprise Latvijas dzelzceļš (Latvian Railway), notes the decline in freight traffic from the Russian Federation. It takes place in connection with the redirection of goods from Latvian ports to Russian ports.


This is reported by the Baltic Course edition.

In 2020, the company plans to transport a total of about 25 million tons of cargo, which is approximately half the same period last year. And although the company plans to increase cargo traffic, it is unlikely that it will be able to reach the indicators of previous years.

I do not see an opportunity to replace the volumes of cargo from Russia that we have lost.

- notes the head of LDz.

Kleinbergs claims that earlier about 70 percent of the freight traffic of the Latvian Railways was Russian cargo. A significant part of them accounted for the transportation of oil, coal and oil products, but now they have significantly decreased. But the delivery of goods to Russian ports in the Baltic has grown. For example, the amount of coal handled at the Russian port of Ust-Luga is increasing.

Due to the difficult economic situation, LDz has to cut staff. By the end of the year, one and a half thousand employees will be dismissed, which is almost a quarter of the total number. A thousand people have already been laid off.
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  1. Dizel200
    Dizel200 20 September 2020 09: 24
    66
    For that fought for it and ran
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 20 September 2020 09: 33
      14
      For an economic breakthrough, Latvia again needs an "occupation". But now, not by the Soviet Union, but by Russia. smile
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 20 September 2020 09: 51
        60
        Why do we need the Balts ??? They always think to live at someone else's expense. In the USSR, they lived on subsidies, and now in the EU, too, on subsidies. Stupid and worthless idlers.
        1. hrych
          hrych 20 September 2020 10: 47
          +1
          Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Stupid and worthless idlers

          I disagree. They are normal, cultured and hardworking people. They can even be understood when the Bolsheviks began to cripple them in their faith. It was necessary to act more subtly. They have been zombified by the Catholic Church for centuries, and here it is. Brain dissonance however. And with stagnation, on the contrary, there was no need to indulge them. They are not loafers and are forced to go to wash toilets in Ireland. This is their filthy elite, bought, etc. In general, Russophobia from the vile national policy of the Bolsheviks and the sabotage work of priests. And so - these are dying out nations. But this does not mean that we should give them concessions. Moreover, sooner or later we will take these lands. There is no hope for insight. For all troubles they will blame not themselves, but us. Let them degrade further. And we will unite with White Russia and strangle them completely.
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          2. krot
            krot 20 September 2020 11: 11
            55
            In the Soviet Union, most of the Balts treated Russians with contempt! And after the collapse, their hatred only increases. Now it is our turn to despise these treacherous states and help them earn money for us as little as possible!
            It would be my will, the goods would not go in transit through the Baltic States at all.
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 20 September 2020 15: 44
              +3
              Quote: krot
              In the Soviet Union, most of the Balts treated Russians with contempt! And after the collapse, their hatred only increases. Now it is our turn to despise these treacherous states and help them earn money for us as little as possible!
              It would be my will, the goods would not go in transit through the Baltic States at all.

              ... and in the morning they woke up. And they were very horrified !!!
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 20 September 2020 15: 58
              +3
              In 60 years, the entire Baltic region will die out as fast as it is now - time will heal everything.
          3. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 11: 15
            -13 qualifying.
            What a wild mess you have in your head. Although some bright thoughts are present.
          4. Igoresha
            Igoresha 20 September 2020 11: 17
            -5
            And we will unite with White Russia and strangle them completely.
            this is a business conversation, a program for the future, as China is planning for 50 years. And it is absolutely correct to consider the annexation of the Baltic republics to the USSR as such a form of occupation.
          5. tandem
            tandem 20 September 2020 11: 29
            -3
            but what about the famous Latvian arrows? it was thanks to them that the Bolsheviks retained power. Hope for the Russians was weak
            1. evgen1221
              evgen1221 20 September 2020 11: 44
              +6
              The same mercenaries as the Chinese combat brigades. The analogue of PMCs of that time is not more than these Latvian and other riflemen.
              1. tandem
                tandem 20 September 2020 20: 21
                -2
                wrong. The Chinese found themselves in a desperate situation. They were guest workers. Left without means of subsistence in a confused foreign country. Strangers, loners. In order not to die, they had to join the force. Whites did not accept them. Untrained and uneducated, why are they to the White Army? The green ones have rabble. Only the red ones remained. Even there, the attitude towards the Chinese was dismissive. The painters did not even bother remembering their names. After the death, they simply wrote - unknown
          6. Machito
            Machito 20 September 2020 12: 49
            10
            Quote: hrych
            Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Stupid and worthless idlers

            I disagree. They are normal, cultured and hardworking people. They can even be understood when the Bolsheviks began to cripple them in their faith. It was necessary to act more subtly. They have been zombified by the Catholic Church for centuries, and here it is. Brain dissonance however. And with stagnation, on the contrary, there was no need to indulge them. They are not loafers and are forced to go to wash toilets in Ireland. This is their filthy elite, bought, etc. In general, Russophobia from the vile national policy of the Bolsheviks and the sabotage work of priests. And so - these are dying out nations. But this does not mean that we should give them concessions. Moreover, sooner or later we will take these lands. There is no hope for insight. For all troubles they will blame not themselves, but us. Let them degrade further. And we will unite with White Russia and strangle them completely.

            In 1918, the Kremlin was stormed by Latvian riflemen, who took the most active part in establishing Soviet power in Russia, were Lenin's Guard, and became famous for their numerous participation in punitive actions against the insurgent Russians. The so-called occupation of Lithuania by the USSR is just a burp of Latvian riflemen in 1918.
            Due to the worsening economic situation in Latvia, including due to Russian sanctions, more and more Latvians are leaving to live in the West, leaving Russian non-citizens in Latvia. The percentage of Russian oppressed population in Latvia is constantly growing. Latvia itself is becoming more and more Russian.
            1. Sly
              Sly 21 September 2020 13: 16
              +1
              Quote: Bearded
              Due to the worsening economic situation in Latvia, including due to Russian sanctions, more and more Latvians are leaving to live in the West, leaving Russian non-citizens in Latvia. The percentage of Russian oppressed population in Latvia is constantly growing. Latvia itself is becoming more and more Russian.

              Here I absolutely agree with you because I communicate with people on the other side and this happens throughout the Baltic states. The only pity is that with all this, the Baltic governments remain extremely nationalistic and for some reason there is no light ...
              1. Machito
                Machito 21 September 2020 13: 54
                0
                The more the Tribalts oppress the Russians, the sooner the majority of the population, the more painful the response will be. The Tatars oppressed Russia for three hundred years. And where are these Hordes now? Have sunk into oblivion. In a hundred years, no one will remember that the Tribalts used to live there - dead peoples.
          7. Puper driver
            Puper driver 20 September 2020 17: 43
            +8
            "from the vile national policy of the Bolsheviks." So what did the Bolsheviks do wrong? Factories VEF, RAF, ports, they made radio electronics in Estonia, remember the top-class line "Estonia" - 0 **. Bastards, commies.
            1. hrych
              hrych 20 September 2020 18: 44
              +8
              Quote: PuperDriver
              So what did the Bolsheviks do wrong?

              They pursued a Russophobic policy. But they did everything at the expense of the Russians. The Balts were supplied with gas, and in the Russian villages they heated them with wood. Balts, Hungarians, etc., set up light industry enterprises, instrument making, etc., where people went to work in jackets, and Russians in kirzach and quilted jacket to a dirty factory, collective farm, etc. Subjected to repression by fascist, local nationalists, and then amnesty. Deported, and then back. And what are they hoping for? And it was the Russians who were accused of all the dirty tricks of the Bolsheviks, although the Russians suffered the most from these.
            2. tandem
              tandem 20 September 2020 20: 23
              +6
              in the USSR, the Russians were the most oppressed nation
          8. Oden280
            Oden280 20 September 2020 18: 09
            +5
            they are finished. I still remember from the moment how they tried to talk to the Russians through their lips, until they got ragged. And there was no scent of any elite, peasants, workers.
            1. hrych
              hrych 20 September 2020 18: 50
              +2
              Their filthy elite does not go to Ireland to wash toilets. And they conduct a Russophobic policy to the detriment of even their own economy. This is the point. And everyday Russophobia of the Soviet period is another topic. All strata of their society were infected with Russophobia due to the incompetent national policy of the Bolsheviks and the work of the Vatican.
            2. tandem
              tandem 20 September 2020 20: 25
              -8
              do not agree. I respect Lithuanians, normal guys. It's just that many had a negative experience of interacting with the Sovi authorities. For many, relatives under the Germans served in the police, in the punitive, in the SS
          9. cat Rusich
            cat Rusich 20 September 2020 18: 11
            0
            Russians in Latvia are Orthodox, Latvians are Lutherans, there are Catholics, but there are about half a million of them and live in the east of Latvia.
            1. hrych
              hrych 20 September 2020 19: 13
              +2
              The overwhelming majority of Lithuanians are Catholics, in Lithuania there are more than 2 million. Half a million Latvians are Catholics, almost half of 1,2 million Latvians in Latvia laughing Estonians (there are 0.9 million in Estonia) in general, more than half are atheists (almost 600 thousand), there are less than a million of them. Most of all are Orthodox (over 170 thousand), in second place are Lutherans (over 100 thousand). Catholics are minuscule. Those. out of 4,7 million Balts, almost 3 million are Catholics. Another 210 thousand Poles live in Lithuania and 45 thousand in Latvia. These are notorious Catholics. Therefore, the influence of the Vatican is significant.
          10. RealPilot
            RealPilot 22 September 2020 08: 51
            0
            It can be noted here that it is not in vain that these three countries are called "Baltic extinctions".
            The population there is falling at a record pace. And the places are quite good for life.

            Three to five million Russians will come there after the annexation (from villages and depressed regions) ... And the indigenous peoples will become a national minority.
            There are Russians, and so up to 40% in some places. And what some passports say is easy to remember and rewrite back.
            1. hrych
              hrych 22 September 2020 09: 49
              0
              There are a little less than five million of them there (not counting the Russians, of which there are 1,7 million, of which 1,5 million are Great Russians, Ukrainians under 100 thousand and White Russes are more than 100 thousand), 2,5 Lithuanians, 1,2 Latvians and 0,9 Estonians, 0,25 Poles. Everything is relative. The area of ​​these Baltic countries is 175 thousand square meters. km. this is more than the republics of the North Caucasus (117 thousand), although commensurate. The population as a whole is the same 6,5 million, whatever it is. There are 0,9 million Russians in the NC republics, not Caucasians in general about 1 million, but about 5,5 Aborigines, respectively. And it turns out that the demographic picture in the Baltics is similar. Yes, the birth rate is different, but Lithuania alone lost a million from the collapse of the union, more because of emigration. But it is still far from extinction. In general, it is considered a candidate for an endangered people (one war or epidemic is enough) with a population of about a million. But Lithuanians are 3,7 in Lithuania 2,5, Latvians 1,8, in Latvia 1,2. Those. only Estonians with a population of one million cross the danger line. In the North Caucasus, only the Chechens have exceeded one million, the rest of the peoples do not. Avars approached 0,9. The meaning is that not everything is unambiguous and can be understood in comparison. Another interesting fact in the Baltic republics is no potcha, there are a couple of thousand, or even hundreds.
      2. Tatyana
        Tatyana 20 September 2020 09: 59
        14
        Quote: Thrall
        For an economic breakthrough, Latvia again needs an "occupation". But now, not by the Soviet Union, but by Russia. smile

        As soon as they - Latvia and the Latvians - suck Russian - Russian - blood again, they will again, like the drunk leeches, fall off the Russian body - the Russian state.
        Therefore, figs them something from Russia, Russians and Russians!
        The time of "proletarian internationalism" for the TRIBals is over!
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 20 September 2020 18: 21
          +2
          Russia can return Latgale "to its native harbor", "indigenous Latvians" can move to Riga, in place of those who left for the EU. Then the rest of the Latvians can move to the EU for permanent residence. Who will go to the vacated places in the Baltic states in the event of "reunification"? Maybe Moscow will share one "microdistrict"?
      3. Tatyana Pershina
        Tatyana Pershina 20 September 2020 10: 03
        17
        Quote: Thrall
        For an economic breakthrough, Latvia again needs an "occupation".

        No really. no ... on fi g, on fi g ... died - so died (from anecdote)
        1. kyznets
          kyznets 22 September 2020 02: 50
          0
          Or maybe first occupy the Kamchatka Territory, Magadan, Sakhalin, Kuriles, Chukotka? To bring us up to the level of central Russia in terms of living standards, social services, prices, and affordability. Or unite with us before uniting with Belarus? Or join us like Crimea? What are the Balts to discuss? They live as and what they can. Their main wealth is their dislike for Russia and Russians. Without this, their price in the EU and NATO is three kopecks on a market day. Other former fraternal peoples also pursued this "currency".
      4. Alexey Sommer
        Alexey Sommer 20 September 2020 10: 04
        +9
        Quote: Thrall
        For an economic breakthrough, Latvia again needs an "occupation". But now, not by the Soviet Union, but by Russia. smile

        If Latvia needs a jerk, and we need something from theirs jerk, do we need it?
        Again to develop prostituting peoples at the expense of the Russian people?
        To be honest, we would, I mean Russia, also have a breakthrough. By your logic, what should we do? China?...
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 20 September 2020 12: 26
          +4
          Again to develop prostituting peoples at the expense of the Russian people?

          I agree with everything except that. There are normal peoples, close to the Russians in mentality. But, unfortunately, they are extremely hostile to the Russians. They are not needed, just as the West of Ukraine is not needed. You don't have to deal with them. There is really nothing to think about their "jerk". Their jerk is their business. Russia should punish Russophobes for good. Which is what redirecting deliveries do.

          To be honest, we would, I mean Russia, also have a breakthrough. By your logic, what should we do? China?

          Most probably not. With China, somehow it does not work out at all.
          What to do - to collect the former Soviet lands ... but only "problem-free". And look for new allies and temporary supporters.
      5. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 20 September 2020 10: 12
        0
        Of course, you need someone responsible for all the mistakes and will pay for all their protests and quirks accordingly
      6. frruc
        frruc 20 September 2020 12: 00
        -1
        Latvia is a hostile country, an enemy. Therefore, reduce all relations with her to min. or to zero. However, the Russian diaspora in Latvia must be supported.
    2. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 20 September 2020 09: 44
      21
      Quote: Dizel200
      For that fought for it and ran

      Several years ago, before '14, Latvia reproached the Russian Federation for redirecting railway cargo to its ports, which does not allow the development of the Latvian railway; the ambassador of the Russian Federation clearly answered: we do not set as our goal the development of your railway .... Curtain
    3. Olgovich
      Olgovich 20 September 2020 09: 55
      +5
      Quote: Dizel200
      For that fought for it and ran

      And this is good! yes
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 11: 17
        -18 qualifying.
        What's good? The impoverishment of ordinary people whom then local Nazis and fascists like you, under the leadership of capital, will incite against Russia?
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 20 September 2020 11: 40
          14
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          What's good? The impoverishment of ordinary people whom then local Nazis and fascists like you, under the leadership of capital, will incite against Russia?

          The fact that these "simple" people -Natsik (the same "ordinary" people committed the most savage crimes in 1941-44 in our country) will be left without money for barking in Russia.

          Personally you you can send them your pension and salary to support your fellow Nazis.

          Maybe they'll scratch your ear ... yes
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 12: 10
            -15 qualifying.
            What does this have to do with it? You absolutely can't live without demagoguery? I'm not talking about sponsoring Baltic Natsiks like you. I'm talking about the fact that along with the Nazis, the local population will suffer, which is being stupidly duped by local Nazis under the leadership of capital. And tomorrow it will definitely be used against Russia. So your joy is extremely stupid. You seem to be eager to die in a new world war. This is your right, just do not drag others with you to the grave.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 20 September 2020 14: 18
              +4
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              I'm talking about the fact that along with the Nazis, the local population will suffer

              Which in the USSR could twist his face when they started to speak Russian with him. And I doubt that the Russophobia of this population has appeared right now.
    4. smart ass
      smart ass 20 September 2020 11: 22
      +4
      They should have shut off the oxygen 10 years ago
  2. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 09: 25
    21
    These hicks should return to their original herring fishing state. laughing As long as the EU is feeding, this is not critical. They won't let you die of hunger. But if they are removed from the allowance as an illiquid asset, they will go to revive the village. Thank God, the Russians taught them to the sanitary facilities and the baths. They stepped on the Russian rake and got it on the forehead, and immediately jumped on the Belarusian ones, well done. Ha ha, It's funny to watch.
    1. Avior
      Avior 20 September 2020 09: 29
      -32 qualifying.
      The average salary of the "hicks" for the past year was under 1100 euros.
      But we are so used to thinking in terms of "iron smelting per capita" ...
      And it would be necessary to assess the income of the population, much would be seen in a different light, and let the head of their owners, the oligarchs, hurt about factories.
      hi
      1. Sancho_SP
        Sancho_SP 20 September 2020 09: 39
        16
        And from what this salary is paid then? If nothing is produced in the country, then the money for the payment of this thousand euros should be brought by gaster.
      2. nnm
        nnm 20 September 2020 09: 40
        13
        What about the volume of subsidies from the EU? As the end of 2020 is approaching and the new budget period is coming, how did Lithuania start to hysteria after the announcement of the subsidy cuts? And by 2027 will receive another 14 billion.
        Sooooo interesting statistics on the Lithuanian economy over a long period. Look, maybe you will stop seeing everything in a pink light. And I say right away - data from Eurostat:
        https://take-profit.org/statistics/government-budget/lithuania/
        1. halpat
          halpat 20 September 2020 17: 49
          +3
          Quote: nnm
          What about the volume of subsidies from the EU? As the end of 2020 is approaching and the new budget period is coming, how did Lithuania start to hysteria after the announcement of the subsidy cuts? And by 2027 will receive another 14 billion.
          Sooooo interesting statistics on the Lithuanian economy over a long period. Look, maybe you will stop seeing everything in a pink light. And I say right away - data from Eurostat:
          https://take-profit.org/statistics/government-budget/lithuania/

          Tribalts have, by and large, three components of "income": transit to / from Russia and Belarus, EU subsidies, small tourism. There is practically no industry - everything is destroyed, agriculture is only for its own needs, and then under the fierce pressure of Western European producers without a chance of normal competition.
          Russophobia is also on sale, but I suppose they are not paid at all. Talking Tribaltic heads still get tasty morsels, and ordinary ones ... well, perhaps the honor of wearing the uniform of the new forest brothers.
          So there is the real trouble, self-made.
      3. Dart2027
        Dart2027 20 September 2020 09: 43
        14
        Quote: Avior
        The average salary of the "hicks" for the past year was under 1100 euros.

        Average maybe, that's just
        Laimon Simanis, an economist at the University of Latvia:
        - The average salary is like the average temperature in a hospital. It does not reflect the real situation in society and is very convenient for reporting. Indeed, in our country there is a caste of people who receive very high salaries - politicians, heads of state-owned enterprises or companies and structures that are sitting on state grants and European money. There is a category of narrow specialists who are in short supply here and who therefore, by Latvian standards, receive good four-figure salaries.
        But most of all in our country are those who are forced to make ends meet on a monthly basis on, to put it mildly, modest incomes that are below the subsistence level. Adding up the official income of everyone who receives "parliamentary" salaries, and everyone who lives on the minimum wage, we get the same 1100 euros. Only one conclusion can be drawn from this amount: the incomes of the former are growing by leaps and bounds at the expense of the latter.
        Read more: https://lv.sputniknews.ru/economy/20200602/13830895/Istoriya-uspekha-Latvii-ekonomisty-raskryli-pravdu-o-sredney-zarplate-v-1100-evro.html

        Quote: Avior
        but about factories, let the head of their owners - oligarchs hurt

        Never mind, we will somehow live with the factories, and let the "small but proud republics" get by with what they are left with.
        1. Jager
          Jager 20 September 2020 11: 20
          +1
          Somehow again ...
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 20 September 2020 15: 58
            +1
            Quote: Jager
            somehow

            Quote: Dart2027
            we will somehow live with factories

            Well, the "small but proud republics"
            Quote: Dart2027
            let them get by with what they leave

            Alms.
        2. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 14: 30
          +1
          That's exactly what somehow. And for a country like ours, it's a shame. And what about factories .. In my city, a lot of businesses have been closed since the 90s. The remnants died in an era of stability. There are essentially two large factories left. The city is slowly dying out. Young people flee to large cities, wages are miserable. Medicine shit. Education does not shine either. And this is not the shittest city in Russia yet. Plus it is close to major roads and railways.
      4. Rostislav
        Rostislav 20 September 2020 09: 49
        19
        So it is not necessary to compare the size of salary, but how much will remain from that salary after taxes, communal food. My partner in the company is Lithuanian, the situation with Latvians is similar. So he says that 1000 euros is the minimum at which they can somehow live in a small town.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 14: 55
          -3
          Lithuania and Latvia are certainly worthy landmarks. There is also such a powerful state as Somalia.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 20 September 2020 16: 00
            -1
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            There is also such a powerful state as Somalia.

            And there is no such thing as the USSR.
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 16: 04
              -2
              Not. And there is no union state of the Russian Federation and Belarus. There are only declarations, open to high-quality our internal market to the detriment of our people and loans to the little girl again to the detriment of our people.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 20 September 2020 16: 07
                +1
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                Not. And there is no union state of the Russian Federation and Belarus. There is only

                Russia, which is gradually beginning to build the former "fraternal peoples".
      5. unhappy
        unhappy 20 September 2020 09: 49
        12
        Quote: Avior
        The average salary of the "hicks" for the past year was under 1100 euros.
        But we are so used to thinking in terms of "iron smelting per capita" ...
        hi

        You are thinking at this level. With a decent salary (if you have a job at home) the population does not leave for a foreign land for black work. How there are hicks laughing
        1. Avior
          Avior 20 September 2020 11: 06
          -8
          The opportunity is there, it leaves.
          If the salary there is much higher, why not.
          1. unhappy
            unhappy 20 September 2020 11: 16
            +2
            Do not confuse soft with warm. Opportunity and compulsion ...
            People by nature are sedentary creatures, where it is good - they build cities, live there, raise children, defend themselves from enemies. It became bad, the resources of yok and enemies overpower - they throw good, the graves of their ancestors and leave. Don't reduce everything to money ...
            1. Avior
              Avior 20 September 2020 12: 02
              -5
              Look wider.
              The North was mastered and the BAM was built not because it was so bad somewhere.
              So now, if you know that the driver for 200-300 km is paid several times more than you, then many will go. There would be a real possibility. Some will remain understandable.
              1. unhappy
                unhappy 20 September 2020 12: 14
                +4
                Even wider fellow
                Our factory on the Kola Peninsula has a monument:
                All-Union Komsomol construction ...
                And you are comparing our "builders of the future", even if not all of them were enthusiasts, with those beggars who were allowed to wash the toilets by the Polish gentlemen? Don't flatter yourself, on most of those works, good diplomas are not asked, what are they proud of? Who will remember them with respect? Lackeys negative
                1. Avior
                  Avior 20 September 2020 12: 18
                  -5
                  Have you forgotten what you wrote about why you are moving?
                  1. unhappy
                    unhappy 20 September 2020 12: 26
                    +2
                    Sorry recourse , forgot about expansion and entrepreneurial spirit (for amers "enterprise" wink ).
                    Is this an unworthy reason for young people to move?
                    PS: and don't say that lackeys are among them.
                    1. Avior
                      Avior 20 September 2020 12: 54
                      -3
                      How old are you?
                      Under socialism, any work was honored if you were not in the know.
                      And under capitalism, the one that brings more profit.
                      And you have never heard of the fact that many of the conventional North went just to earn money?
                      So the driver goes to work where they pay more, if there is an opportunity.
                      The situation is obvious.
                      And the employer will throw up salaries for the rest, so that they do not go after him.
                      This is how the salary grows.
                      And about the fact that where he was born, there he came in handy, it's convenient for the capitalist. Why pay if he's not going anywhere ....
                      1. unhappy
                        unhappy 20 September 2020 13: 08
                        +6
                        I am retired, you do not stick general phrases about honor. You have forgotten, I remember how the mass media trumpeted the glory of the Komsomol volunteers, how the shock workers (combiners, for example) were awarded. People saw the difference and the children saw a real role model, and not pop p. And thieving bourgeoisie.
                        Under capitalism, labor is not honorable - it has stolen, robbed, deceived (most honored by lawyers) and legitimized "income" means well done. Their whole philosophy No.
                      2. Avior
                        Avior 20 September 2020 14: 53
                        -2
                        Do you think that there was no labor in the service sector for drummers? Socialist competition? Were only the combiners the best? You poorly know the times of the Union.
                        Labor was held in high esteem.
                        And now capitalism. You earn more, more honor.
                        Therefore, people do not want to work for a song.
                        And the capitalist wants the other way around - not to go anywhere, but to sit still and work, for how much they pay. Like a serf.
                        And why are you then unhappy that people are looking for a place where they pay more for their work?
                      3. Andrey VOV
                        Andrey VOV 22 September 2020 00: 43
                        0
                        AVIOR, how old are you? Work is held in high esteem in the USSR, uh-huh, tell the collective farmers this and their pensions, teachers, young engineers, policemen ... yes, miners, workers of defense plants received a good salary, but remember the name? yeah, pay, but the hell to tear the veins, I'll get how much I get ... there were really some on the piecework, and then, there were ceilings, so no fables and slogans
                      4. Avior
                        Avior 22 September 2020 00: 49
                        0
                        I am old enough to be an employee of a Soviet defense plant.
                        And the work of the teacher was very honorable, by the way, regardless of the size of their salary.
                      5. Andrey VOV
                        Andrey VOV 22 September 2020 01: 02
                        -1
                        You won't be full of honor alone, will you?
                      6. Avior
                        Avior 22 September 2020 05: 56
                        -1
                        I didn't write that.
                        Read what the post was about, it's about something completely different.
                        hi
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 20 September 2020 09: 50
    10
    Quote: Avior
    The average salary of the "hicks" for the past year was under 1100 euros.

    got sick of this illiteracy
    IT IS NOT IMPORTANT what salary is IMPORTANT how much everything else
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 20 September 2020 10: 12
      10
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      got sick of this illiteracy
      IT IS NOT IMPORTANT what salary is IMPORTANT how much everything else

      Some often it's important just spill slop on the Russian Federation, the rest is not the point. request
    2. Avior
      Avior 20 September 2020 11: 07
      -12 qualifying.
      It doesn't matter what the salary is if the products are given to the cards.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 20 September 2020 11: 25
        +7
        another specialist, you can receive 100 UE in one country and spend 30 on life, and in another get 1000, but it will take you 990 to live, and now tell who has higher income
        1. Avior
          Avior 20 September 2020 12: 05
          -6
          Comparing by salary is not the best way.
          But it is incomparably better than in steelmaking and the number of factories per capita. This is actually about what.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 20 September 2020 12: 49
            +5
            Quote: Avior
            But it is incomparably better than in terms of steel production and the number of factories per capita. This is actually what
            and who did it ?!
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 20 September 2020 10: 10
    10
    Quote: Avior
    The average salary of the "hicks" for the past year was under 1100 euros.

    Is that an argument? laughing
    It is necessary to consider the cost of living then. I remember in the 1s, it was quite possible to live on a Russian pension in Kyrgyzstan, although in the Russian Federation this pension was considered clearly insufficient. It was so much cheaper in Kyrgyzstan. I remember I was vacationing in Cyprus, if it were not for the all-inclusive at the hotel, I would go broke on food, then a bottle of drinking water (1,5 liter) cost XNUMX euros. So, your "reference" to their salary is not an absolute truth, not once. request
    1. edmed
      edmed 20 September 2020 11: 37
      0
      Quote: Tank Hard
      So, your "reference" to their salary is not an absolute truth, not once.

      There was such a concept in the Soviet Union - "real salary" i.e. salary: - taxes, - maintenance of life: food, clothing, shoes, transport, housing and communal services, providing children, at a minimum, the remainder was expressed in "real salary", you can to receive 1000 euros and in the remainder after taxes and utilities, half remains, so you still need to eat and cover the jock, and put the little ones in the beak, from this remainder, it will probably be more honest to count?
    2. Avior
      Avior 20 September 2020 12: 26
      -3
      So consider the cost of living, who's stopping? I am for. I will be glad to read it.
      In the meantime, I see endless empty stories about the fact that somewhere there the plant was closed.
      Not a website, but solid capitalists.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 20 September 2020 12: 34
        +2
        Quote: Avior
        In the meantime, I see endless empty stories that somewhere out there the plant has closed

        You are constantly throwing on the fan, and not nectar at all. Your arguments are not correct. So in the United States, they close production and transfer them to China, for example. So what empty stories are from you request
        1. Avior
          Avior 20 September 2020 12: 57
          0
          These are stories about the fact that somewhere there was a plant zakoylya - throw on the fan.
          This is about nothing.
          The assessment should be straightforward - what is the standard of living.
          If it is higher, then it does not matter how many factories have closed, the way about this is a headache for their owner.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 20 September 2020 12: 59
            -1
            Quote: Avior
            If it is higher, then it does not matter how many factories have closed, the way about this is a headache for their owner

            Some kind of childish approach to the problem. laughing
            1. Avior
              Avior 20 September 2020 14: 56
              -2
              Child? On the contrary, an adult and sane.
              Children's is when he discusses how many factories work and passes it off as a standard of living.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 20 September 2020 16: 01
                +1
                Quote: Avior
                Children's is when he discusses how many factories work and

                So where does the money come from then?
                1. Avior
                  Avior 20 September 2020 16: 28
                  -3
                  And this is the second question.
                  Does it surprise you that an employee gets the same qualifications in different places in different ways for the same job? Answer this question, you see, and the first thing will be explained.
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 20 September 2020 16: 54
                    +4
                    Quote: Avior
                    And this is the second question.

                    Well, where did it come from?
                  2. Avior
                    Avior 20 September 2020 17: 34
                    -7
                    From an increase in the share of wages in the value of a product, for example.
                    And about the other "from where" - it's you yourself further. Having previously answered my question.
                    And this is not directly related to the number of factories ...
                  3. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 20 September 2020 21: 47
                    +2
                    Quote: Avior
                    From an increase in the share of wages in the value of the product, for example

                    Which is not produced because there is no industry? So where does the product come from?
                    (And this is the answer to your question)
                  4. Avior
                    Avior 20 September 2020 22: 18
                    -5
                    If they work, then there is where.
                    Otherwise there would be no salary
                  5. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 21 September 2020 19: 12
                    0
                    Quote: Avior
                    If they work, then there is where.

                    And where is?
                  6. Avior
                    Avior 21 September 2020 19: 14
                    -1
                    where salaries are paid, naturally.
                    And if they get more as a waiter in a tourist cafe than as a blacksmith at a factory, then it is more profitable for them.
                  7. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 22 September 2020 19: 33
                    0
                    Quote: Avior
                    And if they are a waiter in a tourist cafe, they get more than

                    Where are they from in the country? The level of development of a country is not determined by the waiters, so who maintains these "small but proud peoples who have completely killed the entire industry and never had any minerals?"
                  8. Avior
                    Avior 22 September 2020 20: 15
                    0
                    The level of development is determined by the real incomes of the citizens of this state - we are back to where we started.
                    So they need to be assessed.
                  9. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 22 September 2020 21: 24
                    0
                    Quote: Avior
                    The level of development is determined by the real income of the citizens of this state

                    Well, where do they come from these incomes? From the moon?
                  10. Avior
                    Avior 22 September 2020 22: 20
                    +1
                    Once again, this is primarily about the level of real income. This is a direct characteristic.
                  11. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 23 September 2020 19: 27
                    0
                    Quote: Avior
                    Once again - first of all, we are talking about

                    where these real incomes come from.
  • Dart
    Dart 21 September 2020 10: 07
    +1
    Gee-Gee, there are such Jews, narrow-minded and illiterate ... you are amazed ...
  • basmach
    basmach 20 September 2020 10: 18
    +6
    So the prices are also in euros. And at their prices, it’s about nothing.
  • Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 20 September 2020 10: 52
    0
    Quote: Avior
    The average salary of the "hicks" for the past year was under 1100 euros.
    But we are so used to thinking in terms of "iron smelting per capita" ...

    Have you asked anyone about this besides googl?
  • Avior
    Avior 20 September 2020 11: 04
    -7
    Eck people were hooked by that!
    What is proud of factories if their owners are not you? Okay, under the Union, but now what is he proud of? The fact that the next oligarch has a factory where you will be allowed to work for "17 thousand of the middle class"? So it is not yours, your salary is from it, and compare it.
    Of course, the average salary does not mean that everyone has such a salary, but in Russia there is just a stratification of salary levels for regions - just beyond common sense, the Balts will still grow to such stratification.
    Reasoning, and Uncle Petya said that at least a Thousand Euros are needed for life, it is also not good, someone argues that there will be enough bread for Makarovna, and someone keeps in mind about exotic travels.
    In any case, the average salary is a much more robust indicator of the population's life than stories about how many factories work there, even with all the shortcomings of this assessment method.
    And to say that they are hicks, but their salary is twice as much, is elementary to bend the soul.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 20 September 2020 11: 26
      +4
      Quote: Avior
      Eck people were hooked by that!
      What is proud of factories if their owners are not you?

      stupid comparison set on edge
      1. Avior
        Avior 20 September 2020 12: 06
        -6
        With the comparison on the operating factories not hooked? As if these are your factories ....
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 20 September 2020 12: 37
          +3
          Quote: Avior
          With the comparison on the operating factories not hooked? As if these are your factories

          What about yours? Why are you so excited? wink
          1. Avior
            Avior 20 September 2020 14: 58
            -4
            In my opinion, you are excited.
            I do not suggest counting the factories.
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 20 September 2020 12: 49
          +2
          Quote: Avior
          With the comparison on the operating factories not hooked?

          What are you about?!
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 20 September 2020 11: 53
      +3
      Quote: Avior
      What is proud of factories if their owners are not you?

      Yes, yes, yes ... Try to explain to the Americans that they do not need industry, because it is not theirs, but the oligarchs there. YES, and to the question where the money comes from, if there is no industry, I do not see the answer.
      Quote: Avior
      In any case, the average salary

      A cheap divorce, which was actively used during the collapse of the USSR - they say they have salaries for so many dollars, and we have for so many.
      Quote: Avior
      Eck people were hooked by that!

      Of course, without transit from Russia, they will do something.
      1. Avior
        Avior 20 September 2020 12: 07
        -3
        Well yes . Try to explain to the Americans that they should not care about their personal salary, but the number of factories.
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 20 September 2020 12: 40
          0
          Quote: Avior
          Try to explain to the Americans that they should not care about their personal salary, but the number of factories.

          Duc seems to be not very happy with the Americans, and Trump is not particularly happy that the real production was moved to China, he wants to return it back. What did you not know? laughing
          1. Avior
            Avior 20 September 2020 14: 34
            -2
            And where did Trump say that Americans should not care about their salaries, but how many factories from China will be moved?
        2. Dart2027
          Dart2027 20 September 2020 14: 13
          +4
          Quote: Avior
          that they should not care about their personal salary, but the number of factories

          Americans have such a thing as a brain and they perfectly understand that there will be no factories - there will be no salaries.
          Quote: Dart2027
          YES and to the question where the money comes from, if there is no industry, I do not see the answer.

          So where did it come from?
          1. Avior
            Avior 20 September 2020 14: 37
            -5
            There is, so they look at their salary. There is a salary and it grows - they don't care about the number of factories.
            And if factories are added, and wages fall, the ruler of Americans with tales of iron smelting per capita will not last long.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 20 September 2020 16: 03
              +5
              Quote: Avior
              And if factories are added, and wages fall

              This is something new in the economy. So the more factories - the lower the salary, so what?
              1. Avior
                Avior 20 September 2020 16: 20
                -4
                There is no direct connection. There are too many other factors.
                Doesn't the rise in gasoline prices while the oil price surprise you?
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 20 September 2020 16: 53
                  +4
                  Quote: Avior
                  There is no direct connection. Too much

                  That is, again, one chatter about nothing.
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 20 September 2020 16: 48
              +3
              Quote: Avior
              There is a salary and it grows - they don't care about the number of factories

              what if prices rise faster than wages ?!
    3. Tank hard
      Tank hard 20 September 2020 12: 36
      0
      Quote: Avior
      Eck people were hooked by that!

      It hooked you, but you want to shift it to others. Everything is the same as always. lol
  • Goblin_1974
    Goblin_1974 20 September 2020 11: 22
    0
    Don't la-la. There are no such "average salaries" in Latvia.
    1. Avior
      Avior 20 September 2020 12: 08
      -1
      This is the official figure
  • Tatyana Pershina
    Tatyana Pershina 20 September 2020 11: 34
    0
    Quote: Avior
    The average salary of "hicks" for the last year was under 1100 euros

    You need to compare not the average salary, but the actual remaining amount on hand after the payment of mandatory payments - taxes, insurance, rental housing, utilities. And it's not bad to compare how much medicine, education and other necessary amenities of civilization cost.
    1. Avior
      Avior 20 September 2020 12: 09
      -3
      This is exactly what needs to be compared.
      And not the number of factories that are generally about nothing.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 20 September 2020 12: 43
    -1
    And in the 90s we received MILLIONS, this was life, we lived as millionaires good
    1. Avior
      Avior 20 September 2020 16: 23
      -3
      Millions of US dollars?
      I'm not asking about the euro ....
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 20 September 2020 20: 11
        0
        At 91 million rubles was inflation ...
        A check somewhere was lying for a 700k TV set, this is a success the whole world probably envied.
        https://zen.yandex.ru/media/pravo/kak-rosli-zarplaty-v-rossii-s-1991-po-2018-gody-5b580ade0ec1c400a9d3a535
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 20 September 2020 09: 33
    -13 qualifying.
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    To sanitary facilities and baths

    1. unhappy
      unhappy 20 September 2020 09: 41
      16
      Let me tell you a secret, in Russia many people live in villages.
      Do you propose a state program - "to build a sewage system in every village?" fool
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 20 September 2020 11: 27
        -1
        Quote: unhappy
        to lay sewers in every village? "

        for the sake of truth, those who live in the village and have hands and brains have long ago conducted an individual sewage system
      2. Aag
        Aag 20 September 2020 17: 11
        +3
        Quote: unhappy
        Let me tell you a secret, in Russia many people live in villages.
        Do you propose a state program - "to build a sewage system in every village?" fool

        Here, here, here ... Irkutsk (the regional center, by the way, the area of ​​the region is 11 times larger than the entire area of ​​Latvia), - and street toilets, such as "birdhouse" - a dime a dozen ... So, the secret is that some of those who call the inhabitants of Latvia hicks live in cities that look more like villages ...
    2. yfast
      yfast 20 September 2020 09: 42
      +3
      Now go to the bushes in the villages?
    3. nnm
      nnm 20 September 2020 09: 46
      16
      I love this figure about "living without a sewer".
      The feeling that you are living in some kind of reality. All low-rise buildings have long since almost fully switched to septic tanks due to their banal cheapness, and you still depict holes in the floor. In the villages, septic tanks are already not new, and you are all playing in the Middle Ages.
      Or, in your opinion, abroad, where in the suburbs everyone is from the septic tank and lives in the same way, you also need to tell that they go through a hole in the floor?
      Wake up already
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 20 September 2020 10: 33
        -5
        Quote: nnm
        to septic tanks

        Maybe in some places and moved ... And in our villages, pensioners, maybe they heard about these septic tanks, but to put them - no pensions will be enough ...
        PS By the way, on the federal highway Kholmsk-Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk there is a latrine, like a toilet, and not a "septic tank" at all, but with a hole in the floor ....
        1. nnm
          nnm 20 September 2020 11: 07
          +3
          Wait, you just spoke about the fact that 38 people have a hole in the floor, that is, every fourth !!!! and here there is already a whole toilet on the federal highway as an example.
          And you know, I've been to Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk ... remember, you have a small "village" near the airport with three-storey houses and their SUVs. So .... they are also included in your 38 million, if you did not know. And when we sent our workers to the islands in transit, then on the islands they also put dry closets in household towns, so there is no need to portray some of us as pigs.
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 20 September 2020 11: 23
            -5
            Quote: nnm
            some pigs.

            People are not pigs! And the fact that civilization has not reached every corner is a fact. And about that village with Cruisers, so not the poorest part of the population lives there and the status does not allow them to put a latrine with a hole.
            1. nnm
              nnm 20 September 2020 11: 47
              -4
              Do you see the picture that you posted yourself? "Lady in Evening Dress". So now it is not necessary to portray a saint and guardian of people. You are not in the elections. And then you very quickly change.
              1. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee 20 September 2020 12: 16
                -4
                Quote: nnm
                "Lady in Evening Dress".

                This is what I meant ... This is called HUMOR, and you are talking about tsifiri, boring with you. hi
                1. nnm
                  nnm 20 September 2020 12: 29
                  0
                  Eh, no. Humor - Zadornov, Zoshchenko, Raikin, Zhvanetsky, etc. And your pictures are "humor" from the "rash-turd" section of Ukrainian sites of the Censor level.
                  I agree, the numbers are boring when you first scatter millions, and then you start swimming in them.
                  Have a nice day, colleague.
        2. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 20 September 2020 11: 07
          -5
          Judging by the downsides, people don't like a hole in the floor ... And me too. But this is an objective reality, unfortunately!
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 20 September 2020 11: 28
          0
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          but to put them - no pensions will be enough ...

          you forgive about what septic tanks?
          they make everything simple - the same concrete cesspool only the discharge comes from a warm home toilet
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 20 September 2020 12: 12
            +2
            EuroTank 3 - price 50000 rubles
            EuroTank 4 - price 55000 rubles
            EuroTank 5 - price 60000 rubles
            Eurolos Bio 3 - price 57000 rubles
            Eurolos Bio 4 - price 60800 rubles
            Eurolos Bio 5 - price 67450 rubles
            1. nnm
              nnm 20 September 2020 12: 35
              0
              I took the Tambov region for example. And the first site that came across in the search. Prices start from 27 thousand https://septiki-tambov.ru/
              1. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee 20 September 2020 12: 39
                -1
                So that is in Tambov, and this is with us ... And these are the smallest, on another site the prices are even steeper ...
                1. nnm
                  nnm 20 September 2020 12: 41
                  0
                  And where is it with you?
                  1. Uncle lee
                    Uncle lee 20 September 2020 12: 48
                    -1
                    You are an inattentive colleague, I already wrote .... Are fixated on holes. On Sakhalin.
                    1. nnm
                      nnm 20 September 2020 12: 59
                      0
                      Yes, you see, colleague, some are pouring out too many lies. We have to disassemble.
                      From 11 thousand (Concrete rings) with work in 1 day
                      https://kolodec-septiki.ru/yuzhno-sahalinsk/septiki-i-vygrebnye-yamy-pod-klyuch
                      Someone wrote to you correctly - in most cases, only those who want to sit on it and moan about the burdens of life walk into a hole in the floor ..
                      For this, let me take my leave. The topic has exhausted itself.
                    2. Uncle lee
                      Uncle lee 20 September 2020 13: 15
                      -1
                      And rightly so! I was kidding, but it turned out a poem about a septic tank! Have a nice one you too. hi
              2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 20 September 2020 12: 48
                -1
                Give me a website, I'll repeat it again - concrete rings
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 20 September 2020 12: 47
            -2
            and why, take concrete rings and stick it in - the finished septic tank is the same concrete hatches and ceilings
            1. Uncle lee
              Uncle lee 20 September 2020 12: 55
              -1
              Concrete goods ring 2000 * 900 (Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk)
              Price: 4 500 ₽ 5 000 ₽

              Plus the rest of the related work ...
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 20 September 2020 15: 27
                -1
                accompanying work (digging) in both cases, the ring is about a cube, forgive 4 rings) to pack, that is, we get TWO times lower than your price
    4. Sergey Averchenkov
      Sergey Averchenkov 20 September 2020 11: 24
      +6
      That's right, I live in my house ... and I don't want to move into reinforced concrete boxes. There is a bath, a bath, a shower, toilets in the house (well, there is a toilet on the street so that you don't run home every time), there are beds, there are greenhouses, there is a gazebo with barbecue and tandoor, there is a pool (small), there is a swing , there is a garage, there is a place for 3 cars under a canopy (if suddenly there are guests). Oh yes ... SEPTIC ON 10 m2 is!
      But in fact, I live without a central sewer. So man is right - I'm in the ass. :)
      1. Tatyana Pershina
        Tatyana Pershina 20 September 2020 17: 31
        +1
        Unfortunately, many people living in concrete birdhouses have the following idea of ​​a private house - a toilet in the yard, a bathhouse on the mountain, water in the river, firewood in the stove. It's not the same for a long time. My sister and I sold our apartment in 2006 and bought a house. It's just a different quality of life! Conveniences like in an apartment, but there is no filthy entrance, no one treads over their heads, no noise behind the wall, no one is indignant at my dog's jumping. And - oh horror! - no management company! Obviously, this is why housing and communal services are half the price. True, if the roof leaks, you will not have to scribble complaints, but open your wallet and either fix the leak yourself or hire skilled people.
  • mark1
    mark1 20 September 2020 11: 29
    +1
    Believe me, living without sewage and other amenities is a personal decision of each individual person (a habitual way of life). When I moved to the village for permanent residence, I got a hut looking out into the ground with its facade windows, and, accordingly, with a hole, as was customary in this area and a public well. The locals were happy with this state of affairs. For quite little money, using mainly my own labor, I raised the house, dug my own well, put a water supply into the house and made a sewage system (it's not difficult). The local population saw through all this, appreciated and now in the village only the most notorious "traditionalists" (lazy people) have holes instead of sewerage and the absence of running water in the house. In many cases, people are able to arrange their lives themselves (unless they are freeloaders)
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 20 September 2020 10: 00
    +6
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    These hicks should return to their original herring fishing state.
    It seems that even this is beyond their power. They successfully contracted the fish fleet, and the other day I read that their last fish processing plant is closing. Now even sprats are becoming a deficit. Soon we will be accused of organizing the "Holodomor" of the Balts. laughing
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  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 20 September 2020 14: 21
    +1
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    Yes, to what this country has come. Fascists demand respect for themselves.

    Latvia? So there it is for a long time.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 14: 42
      -4
      You I see a Latvian patriot.
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 20 September 2020 16: 04
        +1
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        You I see a Latvian patriot.

        Have you tried to read my posts?
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 16: 07
          -4
          This is in which you constantly appear in Latvia?
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 20 September 2020 16: 08
            +2
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            This is in which you constantly appear in Latvia?

            Well, at least these people, then they would know for sure that I am anyone but a patriot of Latvia.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 20 September 2020 12: 52
    +2
    Fascists, aren't they the ones who demolish monuments to Soviet soldiers, liberators, fighters against fascism and equate them with Hitler?
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 13: 03
      -5
      And those who enclose the mausoleum of Yeltsin centers are building, from the screen of the first channel they tell us about the need for monuments to Krasnov, are they hanging commemorative plaques to Mannerheim? Are they not fascists? "Is that different"?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 20 September 2020 16: 09
        -4
        With Lenin, I completely agree with them, it is necessary to bury him and not put on public display as an idol, but what do you need these plates, centers and monuments - how they put it up and removed and remade for something else.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 16: 33
          -4
          And when will the state policy of decommunization and fascization be removed?
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 20 September 2020 20: 14
        0
        And those who saved Ossetia, Crimea, Syria from the Nazis? Or it doesn't care, but the signs are more important.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 20 September 2020 11: 55
    +1
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    Remind me how everything ends for the Nazis?

    Those who climbed to fight the Russians? Or those who did not dare to fight?
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 13: 05
      -2
      Ultimately for all of them. This is the inexorable logic of history.
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 20 September 2020 14: 15
        +3
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        In the end for all of them

        So start with Latvians.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 14: 19
          -5
          And also Ukrainians, Russians, Jews and the rest of the world. Everywhere this plague generated by capitalism is raising its head.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 20 September 2020 14: 23
            +3
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Everywhere this plague spawned by capitalism rears its head

            That is, there is nothing to object, except for general phrases?
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 14: 44
              -6
              What are the common phrases? Open your eyes and look around. The same processes are going on everywhere to one degree or another. Or are you one of those who throw their brains only when a bullet hits them?
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 20 September 2020 15: 59
                +1
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                What are the common phrases? Open your eyes and look around. Everywhere

                normal life is going on.
                1. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 16: 01
                  -5
                  Well, OK. Then do not be indignant at what is happening in Latvia.
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 20 September 2020 16: 06
                    +3
                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    Well, OK. Then I was not outraged by what was happening in Latvia.

                    That is, there is nothing to say.
                  2. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 16: 09
                    -3
                    I'm glad you finally confessed to it. This is the first step towards your recovery Latvian patriot.
                  3. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 20 September 2020 16: 53
                    +2
                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    This is the first step towards your recovery Latvian patriot.

                    Quote: Dart2027
                    Well, at least these people, then they would know for sure that I am anyone but a patriot of Latvia.

                    However, the fact that you have nothing to say is obvious for a long time.
                  4. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 19: 47
                    -4
                    Happy pipe trip.
                  5. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 20 September 2020 21: 48
                    +1
                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    pipe trips

                    You'd better not get out of there.
  • Ravik
    Ravik 20 September 2020 09: 25
    +2
    A good thought comes after. "Folk wisdom"
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 September 2020 09: 28
    +7
    I do not see an opportunity to replace the volumes of cargo from Russia that we have lost.
    And this has not yet been shown by the heads of the ports, the owners of fish processing enterprises, who also bear losses and not small ones. Awareness of what the Balts have done "fighting" with Russia comes later and will be perceived as a cold shower. But in the EU and NATO with a bucket of water for Russia.
  • Coconut
    Coconut 20 September 2020 09: 28
    +6
    This is just the beginning ... am
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 September 2020 09: 28
    10
    Russophobia is EXPENSIVE! Maybe, if it doesn't go through the head, it will go through ... the stomach?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 09: 31
    +2
    Quote: Avior
    The average salary of the "hicks" for the past year was under 1100 euros.

    What can you buy with this? I even figured the salary of a German nato and it turns out that laughing us
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 20 September 2020 10: 00
      +8
      The comrade was cunning: 1100 is before taxes - google let him down, and not only the first headlines should be read.
      Colleague Dart2027 competently commented
  • KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 20 September 2020 09: 31
    +5
    Due to the difficult economic situation, LDz has to cut staff. By the end of the year, one and a half thousand employees will be dismissed, which is almost a quarter of the total number. A thousand people have already been laid off.
    Do they hire gas cutters for cutting rails yet?
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 20 September 2020 09: 33
    -1
    And how to see what is not? The pugs caught up.
  • akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 20 September 2020 09: 33
    +1
    Ask the owners of the striped ones, they promised you prosperity from three boxes laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 09: 35
    +7
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    To sanitary facilities and baths


    Build a warm toilet, what's the problem? wassat In my house, a bathhouse, a shower, a bathroom at home - don't make people laugh laughing
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 20 September 2020 09: 53
      +5
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      in the house, a bathhouse, a shower, a bathroom at home - don't make people laugh laughing

      And, in general, it is really funny when educated, seemingly, people put the identity between "no central sewage system" and "toilet on the street". 38 million people is 26% of the population of the Russian Federation, exactly the entire rural population, where, indeed, it often makes no sense to build long collectors for tens of kilometers by our scattered villages. Even in cities in the private sector there are often no such collectors, but this did not lead to the Stone Age in cottages with a toilet on the street. Sewage trucks arrive regularly. Those who write about "there is no sewerage system and toilets on the street" are somehow strange, with a narrow outlook.
      But even weirder is that they regularly switch the conversation to this toilet off-topic ("who hurts what?"), Even if the topic is economic or political, or even technically. Like, "but you have blacks hanged!"
    2. Sergei 23
      Sergei 23 20 September 2020 09: 54
      -8
      It's good if there is water in the house! But what if the well is in the neighboring street?
      1. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 20 September 2020 11: 33
        +3
        And who is stopping you from digging a well Sergey? Or are you waiting for the mayor or the governor to come? I have a central water supply a meter away from the fence, so I gave it up in favor of the purest water from the well instead of choir brine. And we dug the septic tank ourselves. - you don't want to get tired, move to an apartment. You need to constantly work in the house.
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 20 September 2020 12: 54
        +1
        And you have no desire to make a well? request
        1. Aag
          Aag 20 September 2020 17: 27
          0
          Quote: Incvizitor
          And you have no desire to make a well? request

          From 2.5 thousand r / meter ... Or a well of 40 meters ...
          Not all conditions, opportunities allow.
          1. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 20 September 2020 23: 36
            0
            I was on a hunt in a village near Noginsk, some cottages, as if I got a ruble, and everyone has gas and wells and electricity, it doesn't seem like there is no money in such villages.
            1. Aag
              Aag 21 September 2020 04: 57
              -1
              Quote: Incvizitor
              I was on a hunt in a village near Noginsk, some cottages, as if I got a ruble, and everyone has gas and wells and electricity, it doesn't seem like there is no money in such villages.

              A very noteworthy comment: for many, Russia in the Moscow region ends (?) (!).
              There are no year-round roads to some villages. Gas in cylinders, because there is a problem with firewood (and this is in Siberia), money, whoever has the opportunity, earns in cities. Successful farms, - all more on TV. more surviving and ruined ... Something like this ... hi
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 20 September 2020 09: 38
    +4
    Following the example of the Bulgarians with gas ..... I wonder how they themselves did not stop the transit of totalitarian goods.
  • Rage66
    Rage66 20 September 2020 09: 38
    +1
    Sprat, lift! wassat
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 09: 40
    +7
    I imagined for a moment how Russia could develop if it, in full right, as a winner, made claims to these non-states for aiding the Nazis and slapped reparations, 500 years in advance, and would not invest billions in them, taking away from the starving non-black earth.
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    2. Aag
      Aag 20 September 2020 17: 58
      -1
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      I imagined for a moment how Russia could develop if it, in full right, as a winner, made claims to these non-states for aiding the Nazis and slapped reparations, 500 years in advance, and would not invest billions in them, taking away from the starving non-black earth.

      Now imagine that at the beginning of the Second World War, Latvia had already been Soviet for a year ...
      And then about complicity ... What, the Vlasovites were completely Latvians ?!
      It is not customary to remember Chechens aiding the Nazis? .. Meanwhile, the impression is that Russia is paying reparations to Chechnya. No?
      The national question is complex and delicate ...
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 22 September 2020 00: 54
        -2
        Do you understand what you wrote ????? You will put the mess in order in your head
        1. Aag
          Aag 22 September 2020 22: 46
          0
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          Do you understand what you wrote ????? You will put the mess in order in your head

          If so, let's try to put the porridge in the pots together?
          The person (Gennady Fomkin) writes: "... how could Russia develop if it, in full right, as a winner, would make claims to these non-states ...".
          Is it okay that during the Second World War it was the USSR? Reparations to its territories? Let me remind you that the Russian Federation declared itself the successor of the USSR .... Especially in this context, the word "non-state" is especially gratifying.
          Further: "... for complicity with the Nazis ..." If the author of the commentary means the traitors, traitors, collaborators who were on the territory of Soviet Latvia, then they were everywhere to varying degrees. As an example, he cited Vlasov's army ... And Chechnya , -in which the Wehrmacht army was welcomed at the level of the elders, and the bodies of the then self-government.
          "... the impression is that Russia is paying reparations to Chechnya ..." Just estimate from the available sources the amount of funds allocated, compare with other regions ...
          Correct if where it is not right. Only turn on the "pot" beforehand.)) hi
  • Asad
    Asad 20 September 2020 09: 42
    -2
    So they didn’t “privatize” the railway?
  • Coconut
    Coconut 20 September 2020 09: 44
    +3
    And although the company plans to increase cargo traffic
    With such a policy ... enlargement is hardly possible
  • Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 20 September 2020 09: 45
    +3
    They wrote on the Internet that the last Latvian fish processing plant that produced "Riga sprats" was recently closed.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 20 September 2020 10: 54
      0

      Sidor Amenpodestovich (Flavius ​​Vespasianovich)
      Today, 09: 45
      NEW
      +4
      They wrote on the Internet that the last Latvian fish processing plant that produced "Riga sprats" was recently closed.
      And soon "the seine will come only with the mud of the sea!" wink
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 09: 50
    +5
    Quote: Avior
    The average salary of the "hicks" for the past year was under 1100 euros.
    But we are so used to thinking in terms of "iron smelting per capita" ...
    And it would be necessary to assess the income of the population, much would be seen in a different light, and let the head of their owners, the oligarchs, hurt about factories.
    hi

    Another "fighter" fool laughing It's time for Russia to clearly and clearly tell the guys from the Simon Wiesenthal Foundation - we can, we don't mind and, moreover, we will help you to rip off this non-state, Lithuania is sticky, especially since we ourselves have a lot of questions to the Lithuanian Nazi ghouls and their descendants-followers. This also applies to Latvians and Estonians. laughing
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 20 September 2020 09: 52
    0
    By the end of the year, one and a half thousand employees will be dismissed, which is almost a quarter of the total number. A thousand people have already been laid off.

    What a "pity" ....
  • Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 20 September 2020 09: 55
    +1
    You have to pay for Russophobia out of your own pocket!
    1. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 20 September 2020 09: 58
      +1
      It is more difficult to do this when you have nothing in your pocket and the whole country lives on handouts from Brussels.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 20 September 2020 09: 56
    +3
    Here is an excellent example of responsibility for you, as soon as the authorities of the country spoke in the anti-Russian direction, immediately sanctions were imposed on the Latvian railway. Every word of the Latvian authorities should be reflected in the country's budget.
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 20 September 2020 09: 58
    +2
    Due to the difficult economic situation, LDz has to cut staff. By the end of the year, one and a half thousand employees will be dismissed, which is almost a quarter of the total number. A thousand people have already been laid off.

    Why do the Tribaltic extinctions need a railway? They also have the USA, this is all that is needed for happiness! Nothing else is needed. wink
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 20 September 2020 10: 48
      +1
      In order to graze pigs, neither railway nor nuclear power plants or ports and light industry with electronics are needed.
  • Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 20 September 2020 09: 58
    +4
    The Nazis apparently thought that Russia would feed them forever? Take a bite!
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 11: 29
      -2
      Strangers, yes. He continues to feed and feed his own.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 20 September 2020 10: 09
    +3
    For a start, let your long languages ​​be plugged into one place!
  • wow
    wow 20 September 2020 10: 10
    +1
    Labuses will never come to their senses!
  • Egoza
    Egoza 20 September 2020 10: 33
    +2
    It was Russia that "stunned" them, and now Belarus will catch up with its sanctions. Then they will jump no worse than the Ukrainians.
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 20 September 2020 10: 35
    0
    With this it is clear.
    but about the% decline, the volume in the country's GDP - silence.
    A lot or a little of this in the end is absolutely unclear.
    Maybe Coronovirus is to blame?
  • Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 20 September 2020 10: 35
    +1
    Thanks to Latvia for the development of Russian ports in the Baltic.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 11: 31
      -6
      There was no happiness, so unhappiness helped. For twenty years, our eminent economists, managers, did not do nichrome in this regard, even when they were kicked in the fat ass with sanctions they finally began to stir.
      1. cniza
        cniza 20 September 2020 12: 23
        +4
        Will you build a port in one day? Ust-Luga, Primorsk and Battery Bay have been operating for 20 years, but there was an empty coast ...
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 12: 34
          -5
          Do not make me laugh by what year did it all take on a sane shape? In fact, after being kicked by sanctions. And so something was announced there and barely moved back in the 90s.
  • Country Councils
    Country Councils 20 September 2020 10: 37
    +4
    The Baltic extinctions are the Ostsee (Baltic) region of the Russian Empire, or the territory of the USSR, in which foreign troops (USA and NATO) are located. The territory of the USSR is in the process of restoration https://mmanificarum.blogspot.com/2020/09/blog-post_17.html (liberation), and Putin is creating conditions for the return of the Baltic territory. Following Belarus and, probably, Kyrgyzstan, which is already negotiating with Russia, the Baltic states will be returned to the legal borders of 1945 (following the results of World War II), and then all the rest ...
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 11: 26
      -5
      Belarus is the country that was almost safely lost from among the allies, like Ukraine? The result is an outstanding foreign policy of the Russian Federation.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 20 September 2020 12: 53
        0
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        Belarus is the country that was almost safely lost from among the allies, like Ukraine? The result is an outstanding foreign policy of the Russian Federation.

        Opinions are different here, I do not regret the "loss" of such countries as Georgia, Armenia, the Tribaltic. And their loss is the result of the outstanding policy of not the Russian Federation but the leadership of the USSR. And it was in 1991, and since then they all the time need something, then an apology, then resources, then money, then free resources, then changes in borders and new territories (although some countries did not exist within their current borders, yes what is there, they were not at all). And the Russian Federation did not lose these countries. Everything was lost before the RF. But you apparently do not know this, or you are one of the citizens of these countries, for which everything is not enough. And personally, I am against giving them money and resources. repeat
    2. Aag
      Aag 20 September 2020 18: 04
      -1
      Quote: CountryAdvice
      The Baltic extinctions are the Ostsee (Baltic) region of the Russian Empire, or the territory of the USSR, in which foreign troops (USA and NATO) are located. The territory of the USSR is in the process of restoration https://mmanificarum.blogspot.com/2020/09/blog-post_17.html (liberation), and Putin is creating conditions for the return of the Baltic territory. Following Belarus and, probably, Kyrgyzstan, which is already negotiating with Russia, the Baltic states will be returned to the legal borders of 1945 (following the results of World War II), and then all the rest ...

      And as for the Second World War, Latvia was not Soviet?
  • iouris
    iouris 20 September 2020 10: 38
    -1
    You can join the Russian Federation.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 20 September 2020 10: 52
      0

      iouris (iouris)
      Today, 10: 38
      NEW
      0
      You can join the Russian Federation.
      Not for nothing. Let them cool down there in the geyrope. laughing
      1. iouris
        iouris 20 September 2020 11: 11
        0
        Quote: aszzz888
        Let them cool down there, in geyrope.

        You do not understand, you are being taken there. So far, a turning point has not come in this sense. Until 1918 there was no Latvia. Historically, Latvia is Russia.
  • bald
    bald 20 September 2020 10: 41
    +1
    Poor - hand over the rails for scrap!
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 20 September 2020 10: 44
    +1
    "Grunt" and grunt ...
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 20 September 2020 10: 51
      +2

      Tank jacket (Ruslan)
      Today, 10: 44
      NEW
      +1
      "Grunt" and grunt ...
      This near-Baltic sprat should be suppressed. Desirable to the ground, so that it is more approachable. laughing
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 20 September 2020 11: 06
        +1
        In addition, subsidies from the EU will be closed from 2021, and gastro-beaters will be sent back to the Baltic States and healed ...
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 20 September 2020 10: 49
    +2
    Chairman of the Board state enterprise Latvijas dzelzceļš ("Latvian Railway")
    I read, and after these two words the word suggests itself collective farm... So you need it. I wish this audience to disassemble and hand over the piece of iron to ferrous metal. laughing
  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 20 September 2020 10: 53
    +2
    Well, now Maris Kleinbergs and his former colleagues who have lost their jobs will finally show Latvian politicians at least contour maps of the Tribaltik and Russia, explain their purpose.
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 22 September 2020 00: 57
      0
      The bulk of those working on the road, you will not, in Latvia there is a Russian-speaking population, some with citizenship and some not, and they are the first to lose their jobs
  • Chief Engineer
    Chief Engineer 20 September 2020 10: 54
    +3
    Welcome to advanced capitalism!
  • pilot69
    pilot69 20 September 2020 11: 23
    0
    Let them contract to transport goods from Spain to France, or from Australia to Japan. Globe of the Earth? No, have not seen. And why.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 11: 24
    +1
    Quote: Avior
    Eck people were hooked by that!
    What is proud of factories if their owners are not you? Okay, under the Union, but now what is he proud of? The fact that the next oligarch has a factory where you will be allowed to work for "17 thousand of the middle class"? So it is not yours, your salary is from it, and compare it.
    Of course, the average salary does not mean that everyone has such a salary, but in Russia there is just a stratification of salary levels for regions - just beyond common sense, the Balts will still grow to such stratification.
    Reasoning, and Uncle Petya said that at least a Thousand Euros are needed for life, it is also not good, someone argues that there will be enough bread for Makarovna, and someone keeps in mind about exotic travels.
    In any case, the average salary is a much more robust indicator of the population's life than stories about how many factories work there, even with all the shortcomings of this assessment method.
    And to say that they are hicks, but their salary is twice as much, is elementary to bend the soul.

    laughing What is 17 t? with an oak collapsed, our conductor on the bus gets 30 thousand, and in addition to my salary at the end of the year, I get 70 thousand clean in my hands laughing And yes, and for medical services: examination, medicines, and half of the treatment is compensated by the employer. 100% of the hospital pay.
    1. Avior
      Avior 20 September 2020 12: 14
      -1
      about 17 thousand, the middle class is not for me.
      This is to GDP. His assessment.
  • Anton Sverlov
    Anton Sverlov 20 September 2020 12: 01
    +3
    Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia are all together, in terms of population, as one St. Petersburg. Let the EU deliver humanitarian aid to them. Will not go broke.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 20 September 2020 13: 03
      +2
      Quote: Anton Sverlov
      Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia are all together, in terms of population, as one St. Petersburg. Let the EU deliver humanitarian aid to them. Will not go broke

      I am not against this, I am against the fact that the Russian Federation imported them, and humanitarian aid, and so on. hi
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 20 September 2020 16: 12
        +1
        The port in Ust Luga will soon be completed and the cargo traffic through them will abruptly go to zero - let the US help them further.
  • AML
    AML 20 September 2020 12: 08
    0
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    There was no happiness, so unhappiness helped. For twenty years, our eminent economists, managers, did not do nichrome in this regard, even when they were kicked in the fat ass with sanctions they finally began to stir.

    Yep, and new ports are now being built by pike in 1 day. You are carrying garbage, my friend.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 12: 12
    0
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    A familiar slogan. Enough to feed <enter the necessary>! Liberal fascism on the march.

    As the United States, should we care about the economic situation in Mexico? laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 12: 17
    +2
    Quote: Avior
    about 17 thousand, the middle class is not for me.
    This is to GDP. His assessment.

    Well this he said for you laughing
    1. Avior
      Avior 20 September 2020 14: 43
      -1
      Uh-huh.
      For Russians said, in Russian
  • cniza
    cniza 20 September 2020 12: 19
    +1
    Due to the difficult economic situation, LDz has to cut staff. By the end of the year, one and a half thousand employees will be dismissed, which is almost a quarter of the total number. A thousand people have already been laid off.


    This is the cost of Russophobic politics ...
  • viktor.
    viktor. 20 September 2020 12: 25
    0
    Quote: hrych
    Moreover, sooner or later we will take these lands.
    I keep you optimistic good
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  • amr
    amr 20 September 2020 13: 14
    -2
    Quote: krot
    In the Soviet Union, most of the Balts treated Russians with contempt! And after the collapse, their hatred only increases.

    In all 14 republics there was such an attitude, open your eyes)))
  • amr
    amr 20 September 2020 13: 15
    -2
    Quote: hrych
    This is their filthy elite, bought, etc.


    Well, just write about Mother Russia))))
  • amr
    amr 20 September 2020 13: 16
    -1
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    What is 17 t? With an oak tree collapsed, the conductor on the bus gets 30 thousand, and in addition to my salary at the end of the year, I get 70 thousand clean on my hands And yes, for medical services: examination, medicines, and half of the treatment is compensated by the employer. Hospital 100% is paid.

    Damn, where is that? I also want to go to this Russia!
    1. Avior
      Avior 20 September 2020 14: 45
      -2
      This he has not yet compiled.
      He considers those with a salary of 1100 euros to be hicks.
  • 7 poplar
    7 poplar 20 September 2020 13: 18
    +1
    so suck your paw in Europe!
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 14: 57
    +1
    Quote: Avior
    Uh-huh.
    For Russians said, in Russian

    For you laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 September 2020 15: 01
    0
    Quote: CountryAdvice
    The Baltic extinctions are the Ostsee (Baltic) region of the Russian Empire, or the territory of the USSR, in which foreign troops (USA and NATO) are located. The territory of the USSR is in the process of restoration https://mmanificarum.blogspot.com/2020/09/blog-post_17.html (liberation), and Putin is creating conditions for the return of the Baltic territory. Following Belarus and, probably, Kyrgyzstan, which is already negotiating with Russia, the Baltic states will be returned to the legal borders of 1945 (following the results of World War II), and then all the rest ...

    No one in Russia gave up this Eastsee land laughing