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In Ukraine, they are outraged that every fourth resident of the DPR has received a Russian passport

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In Ukraine, they are outraged that every fourth resident of the DPR has received a Russian passport

In Ukraine, they are outraged by the information published by the Migration Service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Donetsk People's Republic. According to the republican department, since 2016 more than 550 thousand people have received passports of citizens of the Russian Federation. At the same time, the estimated population of the DPR as of July 1, 2020 was about 2,25 million people.


In other words, every fourth resident of the republic has already become a citizen of Russia.

In Ukraine, they are outraged not only because the inhabitants of the republic are willing to convert to Russian citizenship, but also because for such a transition it is necessary to first obtain a passport of a citizen of the Donetsk People's Republic. There are already calls for the adoption of new sanctions against Russia for granting citizenship to "Ukrainian citizens". However, such an initiative of Kiev at the moment is refusing to support even its prominent supporters in the West. After all, the acquisition by a citizen of the citizenship of this or that state does not contradict international law.

Meanwhile, the Migration Service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the DPR informs that in order to obtain Russian citizenship by citizens of the republic, an electronic queue ticket must be issued, which can be done at any Unified Communication Center of the Post of Donbass State Enterprise.
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  1. Egoza
    Egoza 19 September 2020 09: 04
    42
    And how the "svidomye" would be indignant if they knew how many Ukrainians would like to obtain Russian citizenship and leave this madhouse.
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 19 September 2020 09: 12
      +7
      Those that were bitten by the Poles, now the Balts have also killed, therefore, they have such a reaction lately slowed down. They have a demographic catastrophe in their country, and they are worried about the passports of the inhabitants of the LPR.
      1. hrych
        hrych 19 September 2020 09: 55
        16
        Let them worry and envy. And do not forget that for the issued passports of citizens of the Russian Federation, there are also their children - minors from babies, who are automatically also ours. And the figure is increasing. In the RF there are more than 20% of them. That's roughly, approximately, these 550 thousand increase by 20%, so this is the DPR, and there is also the LPR. Not news, but a balm ...
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 19 September 2020 21: 41
          +5
          Already some citizens of the republics who have received citizenship cover our demographic losses for several years. After the end of certification, this will further contribute to our demography. Plus there is one more feature. As history shows, after the end of wars and the normalization of the economic situation in the warring region, there is usually a surge in the birth rate. PM of Russian citizens may become even more. In general, it's time to approach 150 million. A good figure will be.
        2. Machito
          Machito 20 September 2020 14: 55
          0
          Quote: hrych
          Let them worry and envy. And do not forget that for the issued passports of citizens of the Russian Federation, there are also their children - minors from babies, who are automatically also ours. And the figure is increasing. In the RF there are more than 20% of them. That's roughly, approximately, these 550 thousand increase by 20%, so this is the DPR, and there is also the LPR. Not news, but a balm ...

          Balm balm, and in fact, Ukrovermacht in Donetsk is killing citizens of the Russian Federation. Isn't it time to start an operation to enforce peace and bomb Lviv and Galich with aviation?
          1. hrych
            hrych 20 September 2020 15: 26
            +1
            Quote: Bearded
            bomb Lviv and Galich with aviation?

            There are simple hard workers. It is necessary to wet the leaders, terbats and vsushniki. But the time has not come. Now a lot is being decided in the United States, if Trump wins, then the solution of the Chinese question will begin. There is no time for Ukraine. If Biden wins, then the whole denouement will be in Ukraine. Russia is preparing for both scenarios and there is no point in provoking. Poseidon and Petrel have not yet entered service, are being tested. When they stand up, then Russia will dictate its unyielding will to the whole world. Now while the window ... we do not have an overwhelming advantage, but for now there is parity. A similar situation was with the atomic bomb. Truman announced the bomb in Potsdam and began blackmailing, using "atomic diplomacy." Also the postponement of the conference by Truman due to his expectation of the test results. Stalin did not react. We thought that I didn’t understand. A few days after the conference, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were banged as a demonstration for the "dull". But Stalin knew that there were no more bombs. The stock of uranium and plutonium has been used up for testing and demonstration. A window of opportunity has appeared, hurry up Comrade Kurchatov (with a Georgian accent). A little later, Borov declared the Cold War in his Fulton speech. And in 1949, the USSR exploded itself, its bomb and history took a different path. To neutralize the lag, Stalin organized the Korean War and so that there was combat use ... To the point. The United States has a similar window of opportunity until Poseidon and Petrel came on duty. At this moment, we should not provoke. Issue passports and issue passports again. This is already a great deal for the annexation of Donbass.
          2. Macsen_wledig
            Macsen_wledig 20 September 2020 15: 29
            0
            Quote: Bearded
            Isn't it time to start an operation to enforce peace and bomb Lviv and Galich with aviation?

            The political moment has not yet come .... :(
    2. Finches
      Finches 19 September 2020 09: 12
      +3
      Since the concept of "independent" Ukraine was invented in the bowels of the State Department, the inhabitants of this territory have only two ways - to the East and the West! That is, people from the eastern territories receive a Russian passport, people from the western territories, passports of Poland and other Austro-Hungary (if they give it, which is unlikely) or the Baltic limitrophes, where they are solemnly presented with passports of non-citizens! laughing
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 19 September 2020 09: 27
        28
        In Ukraine, they are outraged that every fourth resident of the DPR has received a Russian passport

        Now I would like to look into the petty eyes of the provocateur "Observer2014", who here at VO pounced on me with attacks, saying that EVERYTHING in the DPR is already with passports of the Russian Federation, and one "Insurgent" for some reason is not a citizen of the Russian Federation ...
        Actually, what is his business? I fought a little for the right to become a citizen of the Russian Federation, he also "snatched" citizenship by fleeing to the Russian Federation from the outskirts ... I paid my price.

        I will also get my passport, everything has its time.

        An online page, regularly updated, with the number of Russian passports issued in the DPR.

        1. nnm
          nnm 19 September 2020 09: 38
          18
          Fast peace to your land, Insurgent!
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 19 September 2020 09: 42
            16
            Quote: nnm
            Fast peace to your land, Insurgent!

            Thank. We really hope for peace, but as long as at least one occupier remains on our land, he will not be.
            And alas, the sluggish "Minsk" will not help us to drive out the invaders.

            But ... For the leadership of the Russian Federation, as before - "Minsk agreements have no alternative"...
            1. nnm
              nnm 19 September 2020 10: 12
              +7
              Yes, understand . I don't understand another:
              1. Why is the LPNR, who have deserved their right to be a part of Russia with their blood, still not a part of the Russian Federation?
              2. Why are only residents of the LDNR with Russian passports entitled to pensions only after moving to the Russian Federation? And all other Russians living abroad get it safely in the host countries.

              There are many things I do not understand in our relations with the LPR. And I don't like a lot. For the lives of our brothers are much more important than sanctions. And together we would have survived any difficulties.
              1. Victor67
                Victor67 19 September 2020 13: 06
                -15 qualifying.
                Why should the LDNR be a part of Russia? Are you having few cesspits around the world that need to be fed and restored? In our country, half of the country walks in plank toilets for a point, they drag water from a well and heat their houses with wood in the 21st century. At the same time, then Syria, then Libya, then Venezuela, then Belarus - give everyone, give, give. What is the use of them for a Russian citizen - a taxpayer?
                1. nnm
                  nnm 19 September 2020 13: 09
                  +7
                  Considering what nonsense you write, you will never understand it. So, excuse me, but I will not respond to such escapades.
                  1. Victor67
                    Victor67 19 September 2020 18: 13
                    -5
                    But in essence there is nothing to answer? What is the use of these idlers in our country? Do you use smart terms (escapades), there is no other in the AP manuals? Here's to you, personally, what is the use of Libya, where now Mikhail Ivanovich climbed ??? And from Maduro, from Assad ??? They were injected tens of billions of dollars, and Rosneft from there (from Maduro) escaped, fearing sanctions. It was my mother-in-law's money, she has a pension of 12000 after 40 years of work at school.
                    Now Luka has been sent one and a half billion greens with no return. Against the backdrop of raising excise taxes on cigarettes and raising excise taxes on fuel, should I quit smoking so that this dude still sat on the throne until Kolya grows up?
                2. strannik1985
                  strannik1985 19 September 2020 18: 19
                  +2
                  The Middle East is the most direct, it is easier to shoot militants in Syria than on the border with Kazakhstan. In the event of a victory for ISIS, the militants climb into Central Asia, and from there to Russia.
                  L / DPR, Belarus - similarly, only fighters of Slavic nationality. Rattling weapons in response to which you will have to take action, do you think this will bring more money to the economy?
                  1. Victor67
                    Victor67 19 September 2020 18: 39
                    -4
                    I think that for those hundreds of billions of dollars (if not trillions) that were squandered from my (taxpayer) pocket in these cesspools (Transnistria, Ossetia, Abkhazia, Crimea, LDNR, Serbia, Syria, Libya, Venezuela, Mali, Belarus, etc.) etc., etc.) it would be possible for every inhabitant of our country to have gas, water and sewerage, not to deprive pensioners of the pension they earned at 60 years old.
                    And so, on the little things, isn't it time to make the minimum wage instead of 12000 at least 40-50 thousand?
                    And from the militants, you can put a fence and PCB around the entire territory of Russia for the annual income of a judo coach.
                    1. strannik1985
                      strannik1985 19 September 2020 18: 50
                      +1
                      Not a single fence helps to determine a person's intentions, so money will fly out to increase the size of the army / police / special services / security systems / elimination of the consequences of emergencies.
                      Short memory? They have already tried to fence themselves off from Chechnya, after the First Company. The militants themselves came to Dagestan.
                      1. Victor67
                        Victor67 19 September 2020 19: 28
                        -3
                        I have a long memory, under the Soviet Union the entire perimeter of the country was fenced off, and not a single militant had the idea to try to slip through, I do not remember cases when spirits from Afgan tried to cross the border to us. And this stupidity (let's destroy them in Syria so that they don't come to us) is generally beyond comprehension. Still, they climbed into Papua New Guinea, suddenly they would also come from there))) There, too, it would be possible to cut my mother-in-law's money ...
                      2. strannik1985
                        strannik1985 19 September 2020 19: 54
                        +1
                        The Union invested much more money in developing countries than the Russian Federation. And at the same time, security - the army, the police, the navy, while even more people had conveniences in the yard, did not have hot water, etc. L - logic.
                      3. Victor67
                        Victor67 19 September 2020 20: 49
                        -3
                        What did not understand the course of your thought? Well, the Union invested in these Neanderthals around the world to the detriment of its citizens, who went to the toilet in cold weather. Now why is this? We are not the USSR, we don’t have that kind of money ... Why do we need these "allies" around the world?
                      4. Victor67
                        Victor67 19 September 2020 20: 59
                        -3
                        Here's to you, personally, why Syria and Libya? What will they bring to the budget? Billions of dollars of money have been invested there, plus the entire army there (in Syria) was noted, all now are participants in the database, everyone will need to pay from the budget, give benefits, I am already silent about the dead, it is not clear why and about hundreds of pieces of lost equipment and hundreds of tons of ammunition wasted.
                      5. strannik1985
                        strannik1985 20 September 2020 00: 36
                        0
                        Here's to you personally, why Syria and Libya?

                        Then, in the event of a black victory, a bearded uncle would hide in Russia and blow up a hospital or school. Steam locomotives must be pressed while they are kettles.
                      6. Malyuta
                        Malyuta 20 September 2020 00: 48
                        10
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        Then, in the event of a black victory, a bearded uncle would hide in Russia and blow up a hospital or school.

                        What for?
                      7. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 20 September 2020 09: 06
                        -1
                        Quote: Malyuta
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        Then, in the event of a black victory, a bearded uncle would hide in Russia and blow up a hospital or school.

                        What for?


                        Here you will remember the attempt to build a caliphate in the 90s-2000s on the territory of Russia, and ask the bearded, what is the difference for them, for example, in Dagestan, from Stavropol or Krasnodar Territory ...

                        They will explain everything to you intelligibly, by suras ...
                      8. Malyuta
                        Malyuta 20 September 2020 23: 11
                        13
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        So you remember the attempt to build a caliphate in the 90s-2000s on the territory of Russia, and ask the bearded

                        Comrade, your version would have a right to life, if not for many "buts".
                        The first and foremost of them is that the state brings to our homeland potential Basmachis in thousands of tons, and Russia is no longer a "melting pot" for small nations. Our former "brothers" are already everywhere multiplying here, but they are not assimilated into our culture and traditions, but on the contrary, they are introducing their own with pleasure, which is perceived by the aborigines.
                        Now in central Russia there is nowhere to spit so as not to get into "Uzbek cuisine", "Tajik pilaf", "khinkalnitsa", "shaurmyashnitsa" and the mischief of "oriental sweets". Millions of crowds of restless Central Asians roam the vastness of our vast !!!
                        What else do you want to tell about Syria and the bearded people ????
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  2. g1v2
    g1v2 19 September 2020 21: 51
    +3
    And in what limits? The laws of the republics spell out the borders of the former regions, half of which are controlled by the Ukrainians. request Again, accepting belligerent territory means going to war with Ukraine. Have you avoided war for 6 years and start now? War is not a walk. It's blood, shit, death and economic loss. If we are to fight, then for a bigger prize - at least for Odessa and Kharkov. There will be no difference in the consequences.
    Well, everything is simple here - stimulation of resettlement to Russia. For the republics, the population is excessive - there is no economy capable of feeding 4 million people. Not to drive them to work in kopanki? Again, this is a serious social burden. And in Russia, the population is always needed and first of all working hands, especially Russian. I have 3 subordinates from Donbass. They work, received citizenship, bought housing, pay taxes. request The stimulation of the resettlement of the surplus population will continue.
    1. Macsen_wledig
      Macsen_wledig 20 September 2020 11: 08
      0
      Quote: g1v2
      For the republics, the population is excessive - there is no economy capable of feeding 4 million people.

      Not now...
      Everything was ruined in 6 years. Including because of the half-hearted policy of the Russian Federation.
      They are afraid of sanctions.
  3. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 20 September 2020 18: 43
    0
    2. Why are only residents of the LDNR with Russian passports entitled to pensions only after moving to the Russian Federation? And all other Russians living abroad get it safely in the host countries.

    But why?
  • CSKA
    CSKA 19 September 2020 10: 52
    +4
    Quote: Insurgent
    Thank. We really hope for peace, but as long as at least one occupier remains on our land, he will not be.
    And alas, the sluggish "Minsk" will not help us to drive out the invaders.

    But ... For the leadership of the Russian Federation, as before - "The Minsk agreements do not have

    The fellow countryman also cannot openly say that we are handing out passports in order to recognize the LPNR over time. Two weeks ago I went to the DPR. I had to pay so that they would not be queued for submission of documents, but immediately submit documents for a DPR passport. I don’t understand why those who served automatically don’t get DNR passports.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 19 September 2020 10: 54
      +1
      Quote: CSKA
      Had to pay, so that they would not be queued for submitting documents, but immediately submit documents for a DPR passport. I AM

      Corruption, with several other factors, destroyed the Outskirts ...
      1. CSKA
        CSKA 19 September 2020 10: 57
        +2
        Quote: Insurgent
        Corruption destroyed the Outskirts ...

        Unfortunately, not yet completely. Personally, I had no choice. If I were in the queue, I would receive it only in January 2022.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 19 September 2020 10: 58
          +5
          Quote: CSKA
          Unfortunately, not yet completely. Personally, I had no choice. If I were in the queue, I would receive it only in January 2022.

          I have about the same situation. But I won't pay - PRINCIPALLY !

          Not for that he fought. Let's wait.
          1. CSKA
            CSKA 19 September 2020 11: 01
            +3
            Quote: Insurgent
            I have about the same situation. But I will not pay - IN PRINCIPAL!

            Not for that he fought. Let's wait.

            I respect your adherence to principles.
  • Captain Pushkin
    Captain Pushkin 19 September 2020 11: 32
    +2
    Quote: Insurgent
    For the leadership of the Russian Federation, as before - "The Minsk agreements have no alternative" ...

    They already have, but "sins are not allowed into heaven."
    Now all parties, like cyclists on a track, stand in surprise, waiting for the first to twitch to get out of the "Minsk" to hang all the dogs on him.
    In fact, the Kiev authorities left "Minsk" a long time ago, or rather, they were not part of it. And they do not intend to officially "leave" it.
    In general, these "minski" are a serious failure of the Russian Federation. Any attempts to play by some rules with cheaters is a hopeless venture that usually ends badly.
    1. Victor67
      Victor67 19 September 2020 18: 51
      -7
      The failure of the Russian Federation is that it has not yet given the border to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Come out, and let them do there themselves, why do we need their gimmick? Because of these comrades, they are choking us with sanctions, $ 75 each, you won't go on vacation soon, visas will not be given to Schengen. These smart-ass people have two passports, dumped to Europe, showed blue, dumped in Russia, showed red, settled well, and I pay this circus out of my taxes ...
      1. Macsen_wledig
        Macsen_wledig 19 September 2020 21: 22
        +4
        Quote: Victor67
        The failure of the Russian Federation is that it has not yet given the border to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Come out, and let them do there themselves, why do we need their gimmick?

        That is, you are for the genocide of the LDNR population?
        1. Victor67
          Victor67 20 September 2020 00: 12
          -2
          I absolutely do not care about the population of the LDNR, as well as the population of Syria, Libya, Mali and further down the list. Let the UN deal with them.
          My mother-in-law receives a pension of 12000, half of which goes to communal apartments and medicines, this is genocide.
          And I also like to travel in the north by car, and I know how people live in villages that, in the 21st century, have not even heard that there is gas, running water and a warm toilet with a sewer.
          Until the Nord Stream reached them, firewood is harvested, mushrooms are harvested, potatoes are grown, chickens, rabbits. Everything is like in the 8-9 centuries A.D. it was, 1000 years after the parliament and the city sewerage in Rome)))
  • Victorio
    Victorio 19 September 2020 10: 19
    +1
    Quote: Insurgent
    An online page, regularly updated, with the number of Russian passports issued in the DPR.

    ===
    something is not enough, but there are those who do not want to receive at all?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 19 September 2020 10: 26
      +2
      Quote: Victorio
      something is not enough, but there are those who do not want to receive at all?

      We were in Crimea, why shouldn't we have one?

      Another thing is the percentage of "refuseniks" ... But no one will give you such data, because a person himself makes such a decision without notifying anyone.
      The number of these will most likely become clear by the time the share of coverage with Russian passports approaches 100%
      1. Victorio
        Victorio 19 September 2020 10: 27
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        Another thing is the percentage of "refuseniks" ... But no one will give you such data, because a person himself makes such a decision without notifying anyone.
        The number of these will most likely become clear by the time the share of coverage with Russian passports approaches 100%

        ===
        Well, and still, in your opinion, half-third-quarter?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 19 September 2020 10: 30
          +3
          Quote: Victorio
          but still, in your opinion, half-third-quarter?

          Percent 3-4, "at a glance" ... And understand that my "sociology" is based on communication with people, and not with a deep study of the process and counting.
          1. Victorio
            Victorio 19 September 2020 10: 33
            +2
            Quote: Insurgent
            Quote: Victorio
            but still, in your opinion, half-third-quarter?

            Percent 3-4, "at a glance" ... And understand that my "sociology" is based on communication with people, and not with a deep study of the process and counting.

            ===
            yes, I see, thanks.
      2. Victor67
        Victor67 19 September 2020 19: 44
        -3
        That is, your whole company will receive passports of the Russian Federation, will sit on our benefits, pensions, children will go to our schools and universities? And how much did you contribute to the RF budget for all this? Will you sit on my neck and have a rest in Europe on a blue passport?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 19 September 2020 21: 58
          +2
          Quote: Victor67
          Will you sit on my neck and have a rest in Europe on a blue passport?

          That's it ! Specifically, we will sit on your neck, a "toiler" (and everything, and at the same time), we will hang our legs, and "to rest in Europe" yes
          1. Victor67
            Victor67 20 September 2020 00: 23
            -5
            This is the whole point. One refugee from Luhansk was put in to work with us in 2015, according to the order from above (there was such a thing), a specialist on the LAN, they began to force him to work, and he says that he is color blind, cannot pin and squeeze the wires))) He sat for two months on the stock exchange, for benefits, since he managed to make 3 children back at home, despite color blindness.
            And I appreciated your irony, now my convictions that special comrades who do not want to work have settled in ORDLO, have only grown stronger.
            I hope our government is smart enough to return you to Europe, for which you rode)))
            1. Macsen_wledig
              Macsen_wledig 20 September 2020 11: 06
              +1
              Quote: Victor67
              I hope our government is smart enough to return you to Europe, for which you rode)))

              We just didn't jump for her ...
              1. Victor67
                Victor67 20 September 2020 11: 15
                -1
                Maybe you specifically did not jump, but most of the citizens made their choice in favor of visa-free travel and lace panties, and this is an indisputable fact, confirmed by the last elections in Ukraine.
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 19 September 2020 10: 46
    +5
    In Ukraine, they are outraged ...
    This phrase is vague and inaccurate: only the vassal pro-Western government, the Svidomites and the Banderaites are "indignant". And this is a MINORITY of the population of Ukraine. The MOST of the population of Ukraine, contrary to the assertion of some provocateurs who, in solidarity with the minority, argue that the population of Ukraine is united in hatred of Russia, are happy for the Donbass and kindly envy him!

    As for "indignation", then be indignant, do not be indignant, but you will still get ... RUSSIAN Donbass. The de-bills do not even want to think that they themselves are destroying and destroying Ukraine!
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 19 September 2020 11: 30
      +5
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      De-Bills do not even want to think that they are destroying and destroying Ukraine themselves!

      They destroyed Ukraine with the Maidan back in the 14th, now they are finishing off the remnants.
  • hrych
    hrych 19 September 2020 09: 24
    +4
    Quote: Egoza
    if you knew

    We also have an almost half-million population of Transnistria that has received Russian citizenship, and even citizens of the Russian Federation - residents of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. If Crimea is annexed - legally, then LDNR and these lands - in fact. With White Russia it is already clear that unification is already inevitable, and the Syrian Autonomous Republic is on its way. At least the Association. There is already something to form a revived Union of Republics.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 19 September 2020 09: 33
      -1
      Quote: hrych
      With White Russia it is already clear, unification is already inevitable,

      Yes, it is doubtful that the dad went for it while he was ruling.
      Will again pull the cat for the Faberge.
      He has already promised it so many times ...
      1. hrych
        hrych 19 September 2020 09: 40
        +5
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Will again pull the cat for the Faberge.

        He held out that the Faberge was almost torn off, along with his head wassat After the meeting of the Presidents, the already declared Union State, there was no point in declaring, especially since the riots are still going on. But upon arrival, Lukashenka made statements on security and said, they say, we are the Union State and members of the CSTO, and let's say a terrible and merciless Russian weapon. The deployed NATO tanks on the border with White Russia, already de facto, helped to create the Union, and not de jure, as it actually was and was moving like in frozen jelly.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 19 September 2020 09: 44
          +2
          Quote: hrych
          and let's say a terrible and merciless Russian weapon.

          That's right, give me the weapon, but otherwise we'll wait a bit.
          Well, I don't believe him, I don't believe
          1. hrych
            hrych 19 September 2020 09: 49
            +5
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Well, I don't believe him, I don't believe

            And I do not believe, but he does believe that the West has sentenced him. The best motive for creating alliances and entering the Empire is not common faith, not kinship, not friendship, but fear. Thanks to the West, it provided this factor. It was not for nothing that Lukashenka ran in a bulletproof vest with a machine gun. Old Man quickly matured ...
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 19 September 2020 09: 55
              +2
              Quote: hrych
              The best motive for creating alliances and entering the Empire, not common faith, not kinship, not friendship, but fear

              So he perfectly understands that in any case, Russia will harness for Belarus
              Not for him personally, for the fraternal people
              1. hrych
                hrych 19 September 2020 10: 08
                +3
                Quote: Lipchanin
                for brotherly people

                For all that, no matter how wild it sounds, but not even for brotherhood, but for the geostrategic position of Belarus. The enemy will approach Moscow at 400 km. Can you imagine? Putin did not consider it necessary to give Crimea to the enemy, who is three times farther, but here ... Of course, this will not happen stop
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 19 September 2020 10: 11
                  +3
                  Quote: hrych
                  ... Certainly this will not happen

                  Of course not.
                2. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 19 September 2020 10: 35
                  +3
                  Quote: hrych
                  For all that, no matter how wild it sounds, but not even for brotherhood, but for the geostrategic position of Belarus. The enemy will approach Moscow at 400 km. Can you imagine?
                  Enough of the Ukraine given to God's chosen ones. No one will forgive the return of Belarus to the West. So you can whistle everything.
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 19 September 2020 11: 20
                    +6
                    Quote: 30 vis
                    Enough of the Ukraine given to God's chosen ones.

                    I do not think that Ukraine was given away. And she was not ours. Without the Crimea with a supershelf and a storehouse of the bowels of Donbass, Ukraine is a wild field with a thistle. Without minerals, etc. And soon without gas transit. Pure ballast on the neck of the West, before the EU. And they cannot reset it. If this coup did not happen, then we will not see Crimea, we will not see Azov, we will not see Donbass. Even an ally, but would behave ... yes, like Yanukovych and Kuchma. Therefore, the blessing of what happened, no matter how it seemed otherwise. Fortunately - an attempt at a coup in Turkey and a blessing attempt to overthrow Lukashenka. Fortunately, Saakashvillo's attack, for the bridgeheads are in the Transcaucasus and where. Seashore and boots to the Lesser Caucasus. Yes, in fact, and control of the Greater Caucasian Ridge as a whole. What the enemy does not do, we are better off. The pendulum of the eras swung the other way laughing
    2. CSKA
      CSKA 19 September 2020 10: 54
      +3
      Quote: hrych
      We also have an almost half-million population of Transnistria that has received Russian citizenship, and even citizens of the Russian Federation - residents of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. If Crimea is annexed - legally, then LDNR and these lands - in fact. With White Russia it is already clear that unification is already inevitable, and the Syrian Autonomous Republic is on its way. At least the Association. There is already something to form a revived Union of Republics.

      I completely agree with you, but I just don’t understand why we need SAR? They are not Russians, and even in terms of mentality they are not ours.
      1. hrych
        hrych 19 September 2020 11: 40
        +1
        Quote: CSKA
        They are not Russians, and even in terms of mentality they are not ours.

        But they are not empty-handed. With a vast, holy, ancient land, where you do not spit, there are artifacts of antiquity. A shelf with super-freezing of oil like Kuwait or half of our proven reserves. Super gas field - Leviathan, the main thing is not even the gas, but that it is controlled by us. Also, there is no Qatari and Saudi gas pipe in the EU, as well as ... Iranian. And it is better to fly not to Turkey and Egypt, but to sunbathe on the beach of Middle-earth ... guarded by our soldiers and police. Peaches and oranges all year round. Alawites, although Arabic-speaking, are genetically descendants of the Aryans, i.e. relatives. Our bases are there, in a super location from a geopolitical point of view. Shoot through Egypt with Suez (the most important point of world trade traffic), Arabia and Persia with the Gulf of Persians (world gas station). The Balkans and Anatolia and the Bosphorus are being shot through. The place is amazing, and there is also a small and vicious Pekingese that our missiles are aimed at.
    3. Victor67
      Victor67 20 September 2020 20: 28
      -1
      Yeah, that's right, you need to immediately annex Transnistria (part of Moldova) with their criminal regime, which has been feeding at our expense for 30 years, everything is in complete decline, there will be something to restore at the expense of our poor old people, followed by Ossetia and Abkhazia (parts of Georgia) with their frankly gangster population, consisting of notorious idlers (a year ago I was in Sukhumi, there are holes on the wall of the house from Georgian bullets of 30 years ago, they say their hands have not yet reached plastering, left the car for 5 minutes - behind the dude is already rubbing with a signal repeater from a keyless keychain access, returned immediately - the car is open). Well, the cherry on top of the cake is Syria - to restore there, our great-grandchildren will have enough without a pension to stay ...
      I don’t understand where people get into such nonsense, where does this desire to take off the last torn shirt and put it on some savage thousands of kilometers from home ???
      1. hrych
        hrych 20 September 2020 20: 47
        0
        Quote: Victor67
        I don’t understand where people get such crap in their heads

        If you count the loot, then count the oil reserves in Kuwait (such a field in Syria), there you can put not only Syria on self-sufficiency, this is half of the reserves of all Russia. How much does it cost to control the Caucasus Mountains? And if it had NATO radars. You cannot understand this. Therefore, so smart, mind your own business and don't teach the President wassat Pridnestrovians are Russian people, and they are bandits or meek Christians, it makes no difference to me. And they have already received Russian passports. So that you are late wassat
        1. Victor67
          Victor67 20 September 2020 21: 49
          0
          Please don’t poke me around, I don’t graze pigs with you.
          Where did you get this Kuwait field in Syria? Can you share a source of information (if you can link)?
          As far as I know, about 70% of Syrian oil is concentrated in the areas of oil fields in northeastern Syria, which are under the control of the "Syrian Democratic Forces", the largest oil and gas fields in Syria are: Al-Omar, At-Tanak in Deir ez- Zorah, Al-Rumeilan, al-Suwaidiyah, as well as over 1000 oil and gas wells located in the areas of Al-Shaddadi, Al-Jibsa and Al-Gul in the south of Al-Hasakah province.
          ONCE AGAIN: ALL THIS IS UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE SDS, i.e. USA!!!
          And the control of the Caucasian ridge is not worth a dime, since nobody wants to fuck, including NATO. All the radars they need have already been delivered in Romania and Poland (2-3 minutes of summer for Iskander), by the way, we also fed them before ...
          1. hrych
            hrych 20 September 2020 23: 12
            0
            And with whom did you pass? And how many of you are in one body? Legion? laughing Wake up all laughing
            https://rueconomics.ru/224654-siriya-prognozy-vozrozhdenie-strany-nachnetsya-s-neftyanoi-otrasli
            An article three years ago and the Caliphate has already fallen. Remember Jabal al nafti. This is a deposit.
            I will not argue about the Caucasus, as well as about the curvature of the earth and the radio horizon. For you are sure that you can see everything from Romania. And I know you can't see a damn thing from Romania. He sees this radar at 10-18 km and that's it. An airplane from 20-25 km can fly up unnoticed, jump out due to the curvature of the earth, launch an anti-radar or other missile and also hide behind the horizon. This is called a low-altitude breakout. So that the swineherds are aware. laughing Early warning radars can see warheads jumping out from the horizon beyond 3 thousand kilometers, but the warheads fly above 100 kilometers. Here is a picture for enlightenment. You can understand why the radar on the mountain is better than the radar behind the mountain. And you will understand why the Israelis are shelling Syria with impunity from the mountains of Lebanon and Anti-Lebanon. Although unlikely.
            1. Victor67
              Victor67 21 September 2020 04: 28
              +1
              Actually, I asked about the Kuwait field that you indicated, but oh well, TV, I see, has done its dirty deed with you ... Good luck!
              1. hrych
                hrych 21 September 2020 08: 10
                +1
                Not Kuwait, but the reserves of the Jabal naphtha field on the Syrian shelf, like all the reserves of the fields of the state of Kuwait. Or half of the proven reserves of such states as the Russian Federation, the SA and the United States.
                1. Victor67
                  Victor67 21 September 2020 09: 30
                  +1
                  Or you can ask another question: do you really think that NATO wants to install a radar in Abkhazia, or are you kidding?
                  What if they put it on a nearby mountain in Georgia? Then it turns out that the billions of dollars that we have poured into this proud republic over 30 years have been wasted?
                  Apart from indirect losses from spoiled relations with the whole world, after all, whatever one may say, all civilized countries believe that we have wrested these two republics from Georgia, well, except Venezuela, Mali and Somalia (our current friends), of course)))
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 21 September 2020 14: 49
                    +2
                    It began with the Georgians attacking our peacekeepers. And therefore, in order not to spoil the relationship, we need to die, like. Therefore, their opinion is negligible. After the cleansing of the separatist republics, there would be no legal obstacles for Georgia to join NATO. Therefore, at least we would be completely cut off from Transcaucasia. South Ossetia and the Roki tunnel are not only where, but the beginning of the Lesser Caucasian ridge, cutting the Georgian valley in two and going to Armenia. It is clear that our troops will reach Armenia at any moment. This is called the Georgian Military Road. If South Ossetia would have fallen, that's it, the path is cut off, and since Transcaucasia is Turkey's zone of responsibility, then it’s a matter of time and the elimination of Armenia. The Abkhazian coast is also there, there is our Sochi, the residence of the President, the Tuapse terminal, etc., and here the American destroyer has parked on the neighboring beach. Flight time, etc. Georgians have no neighboring mountains above the ridge. The ridge is ours and it is the highest point. And it's not even the main thing that our radars are not there, but most importantly that there are no enemy radars. Well, it was necessary to show, giving a horn to some, where the patience of the Russian Federation ends. Now there is no need to occupy the whole country and drag the aborigines on your ridge, it is enough to take control of key points, and blame the aborigines on the West's neck. Also done with Ukraine, taking Crimea and Donbass. In Syria, there is a separate topic, there it was necessary to block the pipes of the Arabians, there it was necessary not to give the offshore superfields of oil and gas to the west. Get the bases from which they shoot, like Suez, the Bosphorus, and the Persian Gulf. Therefore, the brilliant victories of our strategists with small forces, but key, strategic points have been captured. Here is a military review and it matters, everything else is a trifle.
                    1. Victor67
                      Victor67 21 September 2020 20: 56
                      +2
                      Well, now everything is put on the shelves, I agree!
  • Avior
    Avior 19 September 2020 09: 26
    0
    I think those who really wanted to get it.
    Although the matter is not simple, his nationality does not give a Russian anything for obtaining citizenship in Russia.
  • Insurgent
    Insurgent 19 September 2020 09: 52
    +3
    Quote: Egoza
    And how the "svidomye" would be indignant if they knew how many Ukrainians would like to obtain Russian citizenship and leave this madhouse.

    Dear Egoza, so you unwittingly noted the main feature of the differences between the farm-bourgeois mentality of Okraina and the working character of the Donetsk ridge.

    You just want to run away, to settle down in a warmer way, but we will go to the Russian Federation with our land, not hangers-on and hangers-on. What would it not cost us.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 19 September 2020 10: 02
      +5
      Quote: Insurgent
      You just want to run away, to settle down in a warmer way, but we will go to the Russian Federation with our land, not hangers-on and hangers-on. What would it not cost us.

      Dear Insurgent! It is not necessary to divide everyone strictly in half. And you somehow do not take into account those guys who fought next to you from Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov ... Tell me, there were no such guys? Or those who risked their lives transported the families of the Berkut residents to safe places, to Crimea, again to the Russian Federation. You will leave, but they simply do not have such an opportunity. At least at this stage.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 19 September 2020 10: 15
        +5
        Quote: Egoza
        It is not necessary to divide everyone strictly in half. And you somehow do not take into account those guys who fought next to you from Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov ... Tell me, there were no such guys?

        There were of course. And now they remain. But there are few of them, real passionaries.
        Most sit in Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov.

        Kharkov, this is generally a separate conversation ... Tell me why for the mayor of Kharkov Kernes, the main character in strangling the Russian spring in the city, there is such a regularly large number of votes?

        "Good mayor, business executive"? For the majority of Kharkiv residents, "everyday life" prevailed over honor, conscience and reason?
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        2. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 19 September 2020 10: 38
          +2
          Quote: Insurgent
          "Good mayor, business executive"? For the majority of Kharkiv residents, "everyday life" prevailed over honor, conscience and reason?

          Is it still not clear? The people abandoned by everyone NOW survive and from all kinds of available ... Aries are forced to choose the least smelly!
        3. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 19 September 2020 10: 39
          +4
          Quote: Insurgent
          "Good mayor, business executive"? For the majority of Kharkiv residents, "everyday life" prevailed over honor, conscience and reason?

          People save their children, women, not young parents. And it's even easier to trust no one other than themselves. I am sure if they knew that Russia would support, they would not give the heirs of Bandera and Shukhevych a single chance for bloodshed.
        4. Macsen_wledig
          Macsen_wledig 19 September 2020 21: 31
          +2
          Quote: Insurgent
          Kharkov, this is generally a separate conversation ...

          Bye (spring-summer 14th) with me wanted to contact (then they got overwhelmed, apparently because of political expediency) friends from Kharkov, then constantly conveyed the thought "We don't care who will, if only not to live and have a gesheft ..."
    2. Macsen_wledig
      Macsen_wledig 19 September 2020 21: 26
      +1
      Quote: Insurgent
      You just want to run away, to settle down in a warmer way, but we will go to the Russian Federation with our land, not hangers-on and hangers-on.

      Comrade, I am afraid that everything is not so rosy: it will take many years and billions of rubles to pull Donbass out of a pit that has been lasting for 6 years.
  • w70
    w70 19 September 2020 10: 59
    -5
    Residents of Ukraine can travel to Europe without a visa
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 19 September 2020 12: 38
      +2
      Quote: w70
      Residents of Ukraine can travel to Europe without a visa

      1What shishi?
      2.Bring a certain amount with you, insurance, return ticket
      3. The purpose of the trip is for tourism purposes only. If you work - an invitation from the owner with all the guarantees. And ... a work visa
      Do not find that saving on a visa does not warm you up!
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 19 September 2020 12: 27
    0
    Most of the inhabitants of Ukraine absolutely do not care about how many Russian passports residents of Donbass have received and will receive. Many would also like to receive, just in case, because no one knows what will happen next, in this territory, the victorious debi ... ma. Svidomye shouting about their posriotism, nevertheless, they go to work in Russia, they would not give up the Russian passport either, since it greatly simplifies employment and communication with regulatory authorities.
  • Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 20 September 2020 10: 07
    +1
    There is no need to leave for us: we will take it back exclusively together with the territory that was illegally taken away in favor of the Ukrainian SSR in the 20s.
    1. Macsen_wledig
      Macsen_wledig 20 September 2020 11: 11
      +1
      Quote: Metallurg_2
      we will accept it back exclusively together with the territory illegally taken away in favor of the Ukrainian SSR in the 20s of the last century.

      The question is how long this process will last and whether the population of the republics and the remnants of industry will be reduced to a cone at the moment of "reception".
  • halpat
    halpat 19 September 2020 09: 06
    11
    More citizens. Good and different.
    The citizens of Belarus must be given Russian citizenship.
    Russian-speaking residents of the Baltic States, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Moldova.
    For German citizens - a Russian card, so that they do not lose German citizenship.
    Tearing to collect their own.

    And let the ill-willed strangle themselves from impotent anger.
    1. hrych
      hrych 19 September 2020 09: 15
      +2
      We already have a Union State, a BR passport, which automatically gives citizenship of the Union State. In fact, you don't need to do anything, but only fulfill what was previously signed. And solve small details, such as a common currency, etc. They are a coup in Ukraine, and we got the Crimea, the Sea of ​​Azov and Donbass (in fact). they are an attempt at a coup in White Russia, but we are still the implementation of the United Union State.
    2. L-39NG
      L-39NG 19 September 2020 09: 22
      -11 qualifying.
      Who will be considered Russian? Anyone who knows Russian? And the Mongol? And the Mordovians? Or if a Peruvian says "I am Russian" then he is Russian? And the Germans or Koreans who have long lived in Russia? How many Russians are there in Russia? Just imperial ambitions. And Hitler also yelled about living space.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 19 September 2020 09: 35
        +4
        Actually, Usky is a state of mind.
        As I understand
        1. L-39NG
          L-39NG 19 September 2020 09: 44
          -9
          The state of mind is not recorded in the documents. This is what you need in tserkov. In this case, the hidden meaning is in the rejection of territories. If you want to live in Russia, move to Russia. But the Russian "patriots" need you on someone else's territory. No one needs you in Russia. They don't know what to do with their own people, if they are not oligarchs. And even those, usually, leave for the west.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 19 September 2020 09: 47
            +4
            Quote: L-39NG
            The state of mind is not recorded in the documents.

            The document can be given to anyone, but it may not become Russian.
          2. ultra
            ultra 19 September 2020 10: 08
            +5
            Quote: L-39NG
            But the Russian "patriots" need you on someone else's territory.

            Actually, this is our territory, which by "misunderstanding" was torn away.
            1. L-39NG
              L-39NG 19 September 2020 11: 32
              -10 qualifying.
              In general, your territories were torn away from other peoples, the campaign to Kazan, the extraction of Siberia by Yermak, the wars with the Chukchi, and in Alaska the lands were not peacefully annexed to the empire, the northern wars of Peter the Great, the campaign to Astrakhan, Crimea. Crimea is not now, but in 1784. All the "primordially Russian" lands? Asked to join?
              1. Macsen_wledig
                Macsen_wledig 19 September 2020 21: 33
                +2
                Quote: L-39NG
                In general, your territories were torn away from other peoples,

                And what about the USA, Britain, France, all the territories voluntarily joined? :)
                1. Liam
                  Liam 19 September 2020 21: 40
                  -4
                  And when was the last involuntary accession to the United States, Britain and France?
                  1. Macsen_wledig
                    Macsen_wledig 19 September 2020 21: 51
                    +2
                    A commercial year in the 45th ... :)
                    By the right of the strong, the elves from the "City on the Hill" have kept many things for themselves in the Pacific Ocean. :)

                    Or, for example, a fun mess around the Malvinas Islands ... :)
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 19 September 2020 22: 01
                      -3
                      Malviny in the WB for 150/200 years already.
                      Quote: Macsen_Wledig
                      A commercial year in the 45th ... :)

                      Elves .. city on a hill ..- turbopatriotic lyrics)
                      It is very interesting to find out what territories were included in the US forces in 1945 and later, maybe even earlier)
                      1. Macsen_wledig
                        Macsen_wledig 20 September 2020 11: 15
                        +1
                        Quote: Liam
                        Elves .. city on a hill ..- turbopatriotic lyrics)

                        I'm glad you liked it ... :)

                        Quote: Liam
                        It is very interesting to find out what territories were included in the US forces in 1945 and later.

                        Look at the map of the Pacific Ocean and you will be happy. :)

                        Quote: Liam
                        It is possible earlier)

                        Earlier?
                        Read at whose expense the continental United States grew in size in the 19th century ..
                      2. Liam
                        Liam 20 September 2020 11: 23
                        -1
                        I see, a lot of lyrics and little specificity. And the 19th century is fresh)
                      3. Macsen_wledig
                        Macsen_wledig 20 September 2020 11: 36
                        0
                        I didn't subscribe to you to teach history with geography ... :)
                        If you are interested - you will find it yourself, and if you are not interested - then why should I tell you something.
              2. Incvizitor
                Incvizitor 20 September 2020 00: 41
                -1
                In 2014, the outskirts as a colony, now they are trying to annex RB through their organized crime groups.
          3. forester1971
            forester1971 19 September 2020 23: 03
            +2
            The entire territory of the United States and Canada is on the original Indian lands, and the remnants of the true masters of the American continent are now on reservations. If in Latin American countries the Indians still have some kind of rights, in the USA they practically do not. In Russia, small nationalities have more rights than Russians. So ask your masters - the Anglo-Saxons - about the seizure of foreign land.
      2. Vig
        Vig 19 September 2020 10: 09
        +4
        Many have already moved, found work, there are more problems with the price of real estate, it is expensive, many do not want to leave their parents, Young people take the Unified State Exam and go (without a Russian passport) to institutes, time will put everything in its place,
      3. Victorio
        Victorio 19 September 2020 10: 26
        +3
        Quote: L-39NG
        State of mind does not appear in documents

        ===
        well, in many cases, that is why they take Russian citizenship.
      4. atalef
        atalef 19 September 2020 12: 44
        -1
        Quote: L-39NG
        State of mind

        well, you are like a connoisseur of the Russian soul
        - please indicate some parameters or criteria of this soul - well, so that it would be clear.
        who is actually Russian. and who is so - a sent Cossack.
    3. atalef
      atalef 19 September 2020 11: 00
      -4
      Quote: Lipchanin
      Actually, Usky is a state of mind.
      As I understand

      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 19 September 2020 11: 53
        +3
        He citizen of the Russian Federation, non Russian
      2. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 19 September 2020 12: 10
        +1
        Generally speaking, Russian is a state of mind. As I understand
        Or, for some, a way to avoid taxes.
  • nnm
    nnm 19 September 2020 09: 53
    +4
    Quote: L-39NG
    Who will be considered Russian?

    A Russian, this time.
    And the Mongol? And the Mordovians? Or if a Peruvian says "I am Russian" then he is Russian?

    Believe it or not, Russia is a common home. And for the Russians, and for the Germans, and for the Mordovians, Peruvians and many others. For in their home people do not ask each other about nationality, but value each person regardless of skin color, gender, age, nationality. These are two.
    And Hitler also yelled about living space

    There is only one detail that does not add up. In the spaces of the Third Reich, there was no other place except for the enlightened Europeans destroying the Untermerwomen. But Russia wants the opposite - the same value in the life of a Russian, a German, a Frenchman, a Mongol, or a Peruvian. That there would be no higher and lower countries, peoples. And this is a big difference, you must agree.
  • halpat
    halpat 19 September 2020 10: 39
    +5
    Quote: L-39NG
    Who will be considered Russian? Anyone who knows Russian? And the Mongol? And the Mordovians? Or if a Peruvian says "I am Russian" then he is Russian? And the Germans or Koreans who have long lived in Russia? How many Russians are there in Russia? Just imperial ambitions. And Hitler also yelled about living space.

    Exactly. Whoever calls himself Russian, that is, FOR Russia, is Russian, even if he speaks with an accent.
    And who vilifies Russia, saying that it would be better to surrender to Hitler. That enemy and bastard.
    Even if he graduated from some phil.faculty of Moscow State University, specializing in Russian language and literature.
    1. L-39NG
      L-39NG 19 September 2020 11: 53
      -7
      Don't you confuse love for Russia, with Great Russian chauvinism and dreams of the revival of the Russian Empire - the gendarme of the peoples? And do not confuse love for Russia with love for leadership, by chance over you, who were placed. Especially if the leadership is not chosen by you, but assigned to you.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 19 September 2020 11: 04
    +2
    To be Russian, the main thing is to be a man, so only rotten Westerners and their six cannot get it.
    1. L-39NG
      L-39NG 19 September 2020 12: 25
      -6
      What are the criteria for being considered a person and who will be the judge? Untold pink dreams after a glass. DeGol was not a man, or rather a Russian, in your performance, Ahmad Khan Massoud? Gandhi? They were Men with a capital C. But they were not Russians. The Ukrainians dug the Black Sea, and the Russian patriots have become the standard of humanity? You take on a lot.
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 20 September 2020 00: 43
        0
        First of all, do not support the West (the world terrorist organization), but it is desirable to act against it.
  • Hto tama
    Hto tama 19 September 2020 09: 32
    +3
    Quote: Halpat
    More citizens. Good and different.
    The citizens of Belarus must be given Russian citizenship.
    Russian-speaking residents of the Baltic States, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Moldova.
    For German citizens - a Russian card, so that they do not lose German citizenship.
    Tearing to collect their own.

    And let the ill-willed strangle themselves from impotent anger.

    Sounds like toast drinks But in reality it all does not look so rosy, if my memory serves me, then there were already programs for the return of compatriots and everything, as sad as it sounds, was flushed down the toilet due to bureaucratic red tape sad The second question that arises is how the Russian Federation intends to protect its citizens, let’s say, did they fire on the territory of the DPR, wounded or God forbid, killed someone with Russian citizenship, what will our government do if this happens? request In my opinion, an answer should follow, like with Georgia in the 8th year, but will our government decide on such a tough response or will it express concern, despite all the image losses? what
  • Alexander X
    Alexander X 19 September 2020 09: 08
    +6
    Well, just like that, with the speed of issuing passports, the DPR will become part of Russia.
    1. L-39NG
      L-39NG 19 September 2020 09: 33
      -11 qualifying.
      Creeping annexation? It happened before. The number of residents with some kind of passport is not an indicator of the belonging of a given territory to any state. This indicator is international norms and agreements. And, also, legally formalized legal documents.
      1. Macsen_wledig
        Macsen_wledig 19 September 2020 21: 36
        +2
        Quote: L-39NG
        This indicator is international norms and agreements. And, also, legally formalized legal documents.

        Taking into account the fact that the "civilized West" lays with the device on any agreements that are unprofitable for them, isn't it time for Russia to do something similar? :)
    2. atalef
      atalef 19 September 2020 12: 47
      -3
      Quote: Alexander X
      Well, just like that, with the speed of issuing passports, the DPR will become part of Russia.

      yes straight - the same.
      In Prednestrovie, almost all Russians and?
      LDNR will never become part of Russia.
      See real.
      First of all, Russia does not need this and it is absolutely clear why.
    3. Macsen_wledig
      Macsen_wledig 19 September 2020 21: 34
      +2
      Quote: Alexander X
      Well, just like that, with the speed of issuing passports, the DPR will become part of Russia.

      In optimistic mathematics - in 10 years ... :)
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 19 September 2020 09: 16
    +3
    ... that every fourth resident of the DPR has already received a Russian passport

    Surprisingly, not everyone ...
    1. a.hamster55
      a.hamster55 19 September 2020 09: 26
      +1
      Not everything is unipolar there, and there are still many hidden supporters of a return to Ukraine. Probably 50 to 50. Maybe because of the murky position of the Russian authorities on the issue of these territories.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 19 September 2020 10: 02
        +6
        Quote: a.hamster55
        Not everything is unipolar there, and there are still many hidden supporters of a return to Ukraine. Probably 50-50.

        You have enough "50x50" ... The maximum FOR returning to Okraina is 20%. And of them, up to 10 percent are simply nostalgic for a peaceful life - "I want it like before the war"...
        1. a.hamster55
          a.hamster55 19 September 2020 10: 40
          +1
          And then let's get 70 to 30! It's just that many of the so-called. Raguli and Selyuk (in the Kharkiv region they were called differently) are more conservative for natural reasons. Many people remember how some relatives lived well "for Poland". Those. meet everything new and incomprehensible with hostility. Here the Kreutzers have been saving up all their lives for new boots, but here the new government does not recognize them. Try now in Russia to prohibit the exchange of dollars or euros and get ...
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 19 September 2020 10: 51
            +3
            Quote: a.hamster55
            And then let's get 70 to 30! It's just that many so-called. raguli and selyuki

            For the most part, this is not about Donbass No.
            1. a.hamster55
              a.hamster55 19 September 2020 11: 18
              +1
              But there is! I know that many of the subsidized regions, for example Ivano-Frankivsk, came to work in Donbass and settled there for permanent residence. And correspondingly ..
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 19 September 2020 11: 22
                +3
                Quote: a.hamster55
                But there is! I know that many of the subsidized regions, for example Ivano-Frankivsk, came to work in Donbass and settled there for permanent residence. And correspondingly ..

                And accordingly, they are already elderly people who have Russian children.

                The "melting pot" of the multinational, but pro-Russian region has not been canceled.
        2. Igoresha
          Igoresha 19 September 2020 11: 12
          +2
          And of them, up to 10 percent are simply nostalgic for a peaceful life - "I want it like before the war" ...


          aha, in Crimea a relative of an ex-Luhansk resident heard this - "I want it like in Ukraine, but like under Yanukovych," this is when the Russian Federation began to restore order. And after all, she brought it up, even better than on the mainland in terms of pediatric medicine, for example, an 8-year-old child was taken to the hospital, not a penny or a doctor, after 10 days the child was "given" back into her arms, they say they were cured, come to be monitored regularly
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 19 September 2020 09: 33
      +8
      Quote: Doccor18
      Surprisingly, not everyone ...

      The procedure for obtaining a passport is dreary. Documents in Ukrainian need to be translated and notarized, a long check.
      In addition, you cannot “jump straight” from Ukrainian citizenship to Russian citizenship. First you need to get a passport of the republic. And this, in turn, creates certain problems. More time (sometimes much) is required.
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 19 September 2020 10: 27
        +2
        The procedure for obtaining a passport is dreary ...

        Hasn't the GDPR simplified this procedure? Somehow such information flew in the media ... Or did everything remain at the level of "wishes" ...?
        1. Igoresha
          Igoresha 19 September 2020 11: 13
          +1
          you can also get a passport along with a civilian, it will be longer
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent 19 September 2020 11: 15
          +2
          Quote: Doccor18
          Hasn't the GDPR simplified this procedure? Somehow such information flew in the media ... Or did everything remain at the level of "wishes" ...?

          Well, of course, there was a simplification in something. They removed the tax, for example, something of the order of 3000 R, which is significant for us. But the Bureaucracy has not gone anywhere ...
          Moreover, I am sure that this is not our exclusive feature, but in the Russian Federation (metropolis) it is the same.
        3. Macsen_wledig
          Macsen_wledig 19 September 2020 21: 40
          +3
          Quote: Doccor18
          Hasn't the GDPR simplified this procedure? Somehow such information flew in the media ... Or did everything remain at the level of "wishes" ...?

          The problem is not in obtaining a Russian passport (the procedure is simplified to the maximum) - the problem is in obtaining a republican passport, which is an indispensable condition for obtaining a Russian passport.
          This is what holds everything back.
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 19 September 2020 09: 21
    +3
    what can I say ... emotions are useful ... they survive a little (well, at press conferences), make some noise and calm down ...
  • Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 19 September 2020 09: 23
    +3
    To be honest, I'm more interested in the other three quarters. Don't want to or are there queues?
    1. Avior
      Avior 19 September 2020 09: 30
      +2
      This money needs to be paid, so those who really need it for travel or relocation, or those who cannot register Ukrainian for some reason, take it, for example, in the militia.
      But most of those who received a Ukrainian passport also have it., As well as in Crimea, by the way.
      There is a third category - if there is extra money, they do it "just in case."
      1. Vig
        Vig 19 September 2020 10: 19
        +2
        The passport is not so expensive, pensioners do not need it, there are queues for the LDNR passport, bureaucracy, Before the electronic queue, people spent the night under the document reception points,
  • Good forester
    Good forester 19 September 2020 09: 49
    +1
    Banderlog blocked the LDNR oxygen and are still outraged at how they get passports of the Russian Federation. And what kind of passports should they get. Bandera scum came to kill them. The southeast is defending itself as best it can. And you don't need to open your mouth about it. Residents of Donbass are free people, unlike Ukraine. Nezalezhnaya is a colony of Americans.
  • Gato
    Gato 19 September 2020 09: 53
    +4
    In Ukraine they are indignant

    And who exactly is indignant? 2,5 raguli? So they themselves have three passports to choose from
  • ultra
    ultra 19 September 2020 10: 09
    +2
    Quote: L-39NG
    This indicator is international norms and agreements

    All this is nonsense, the indicator in international relations is military and economic power.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 19 September 2020 10: 22
    +2
    Something such fierce battles over obtaining a card of a Pole or Romanian, Hungarian passports are not visible in Ukraine.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 September 2020 10: 31
    +1
    every fourth resident of the republic has already become a citizen of Russia.
    Maybe it's time to recognize the republics? Or is it necessary to have a 100% number of citizens of the Russian Federation and is constrained by the possible reaction of the West? This is how the collective West is being ousted as it wants, introducing new sanctions every six months, threatening "terrible punishments", and people in the Donbas are dying, the remains of the infrastructure are being sought. If you look sensibly, then Russia has nothing to lose, that we admit that we will red tape, they will continue to pressure us politically and economically.
  • maktub
    maktub 19 September 2020 10: 38
    +1
    The question is, how many of those who received Russian passports left Ukrainian? !!
    Ukrainian in the rating will be higher.
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 19 September 2020 11: 08
      0
      everyone left, why throw it away?
    2. Macsen_wledig
      Macsen_wledig 19 September 2020 21: 42
      +1
      Quote: maktub
      The question is, how many of those who received Russian passports left Ukrainian? !!

      So no one takes it away ...
      Or should it be defiantly burned like Svetlana Alliluyeva? :)
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 19 September 2020 10: 44
    0
    When everyone gets it, then you need to be indignant)
  • Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 19 September 2020 10: 45
    +1
    In Ukraine, they are outraged by the information published by the Migration Service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Donetsk People's Republic. According to the republican department, since 2016 more than 550 thousand people have received passports of citizens of the Russian Federation. At the same time, the estimated population of the DPR as of July 1, 2020 was about 2,25 million people.

    Passport is Power!
  • Igoresha
    Igoresha 19 September 2020 11: 07
    +1
    A Russian passport for residents of LDNR without a residence permit is pleasant but of little value. Neither a Russian pension to issue nor even a border to move normally now (in a pre-quarantine state, Izvarino requires either an LPR or Ukrainian passport or a good reason for entry). Registration in the Russian Federation from firms costs from 20k, or the issue is decided by the purchase of real estate and registration in it by the whole family who received a Russian passport, for example.
  • Ivan Tixiy
    Ivan Tixiy 19 September 2020 11: 17
    +2
    So the bulk is jealous ..... Taking into account the rate of outflow of the population of Ukraine, soon there will only be "servants of Soros" and nationalists and will exploit the most stubborn villagers ...
  • Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 19 September 2020 12: 09
    +1
    In Ukraine, they are outraged not only due to the fact that the inhabitants of the republic willingly transfer to Russian citizenship
    We don’t give them life, we promise to hang everyone, but they won’t
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 19 September 2020 12: 26
    +2
    Strange people, these different kinds of squares. First, they shoot and kill people on a national basis (whom they immediately call their own, that is, Ukrainians), and then they are sincerely surprised. Why is it that the residents of Donbass do not want to have anything to do with Ukraine. This is no longer psychiatry, but pathology is already on a different level, at the level of the absence of brains at all. Such are they, "Svidomo Ukrainian patriots". laughing
  • Mark kalendarov
    Mark kalendarov 19 September 2020 14: 38
    -2
    Poor in spirit, mentally disabled ...
  • Serg filipp
    Serg filipp 19 September 2020 15: 47
    -1
    And what do you mean outraged? I am glad.
  • NF68
    NF68 19 September 2020 16: 26
    0
    So far, one in four has received Russian passports. But this process continues.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 19 September 2020 16: 32
    +2
    Strange ... Why am I not worried about the opinion of the fascists? ...
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 19 September 2020 23: 49
    0
    Quote: Egoza
    And how the "svidomye" would be indignant if they knew how many Ukrainians would like to obtain Russian citizenship and leave this madhouse.

    they have been here for a long time, my friend has two passports, and lives in Russia
  • Glenni
    Glenni 20 September 2020 08: 15
    0
    Flag in the hands of those who received a passport! I do not find cause for indignation.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 20 September 2020 11: 42
    0
    Envy is not a good feeling.