"Theater of the Absurd": the Polish Prosecutor's Office demands the arrest of the Smolensk dispatchers in the Tu-154 case

Ewa Bialik, press secretary of the Investigative Commission of the Polish Prosecutor's Office, made a high-profile statement related to the fall of the Polish plane number one near Smolensk in 2010.

Recall that then, in conditions of extremely unfavorable weather for flights, an airplane with Polish President Lech Kaczynski with his wife and dozens of Polish officials began an approach, which ultimately ended in tragedy. The investigation, which was carried out by both Russian and Polish specialists, established the guilt of the pilots and the presence of unauthorized persons in the cockpit in a state of alcoholic intoxication. After a while, the authorities in Warsaw decided to reopen the investigation and even carried out the exhumation of the bodies of President Kaczynski and his wife.

Now the National Prosecutor's Office of Poland is declaring that it has filed a lawsuit with the Warsaw District Court, on the basis of which it is required to arrest the air traffic controllers of the Smolensk-Severny airfield.

According to Ms Bialik, this will be the first step of the investigation commission of the Polish prosecutor's office towards the process of obtaining an international arrest warrant for dispatchers.

Bialik:

If the Warsaw District Court upholds the claim, then law enforcement officers will take further steps to detain the dispatchers.

These are actions amazing in their absurdity. After all, it was the Smolensk controllers who informed the crew of the Polish Tu-154 about extremely difficult weather conditions in the airfield area and strongly recommended landing at the alternate airfield (the version of the Belarusian Minsk was considered). However, the Polish pilots ignored the recommendations of the Russian air traffic controllers, which led to the disaster. Now the Polish prosecutor's office is going to carry out the detention of Russian air traffic controllers, following whose recommendations the aircraft commander could save dozens of lives.

From Polish comments:

Theater of the absurd.

Does the prosecutor's office have any questions for those preparing the flight for departure in Warsaw?

Based on this, it turns out that saving the lives of Polish officials in 2010 is no longer viewed by modern Warsaw as a missed opportunity ...

We will remind that earlier the subcommittee headed by the ex-Minister of Defense of Poland Antoni Macerevich announced the alleged discovery of traces of explosive on the Tu-154 wreckage. Moreover, during the initial careful study of the fragments of the liner (by both the Russian and Polish sides), no traces of explosives were found. In this regard, in Poland itself, many experts and ordinary citizens call the work of the special commission "an attempt to find an extreme in a situation where the real cause of the disaster lies on the surface."

Comments

[aszzz888]

However, the Polish pilots ignored the recommendations of the Russian air traffic controllers, which led to the disaster.

All skeletons will be taken out of the cabinets.

[Volodin]

Quote: aszzz888

All skeletons will be taken out of the cabinets.

Moreover, in the case of the current Polish government - also in the literal sense ...

[Tatyana]

Since the Russian Federation, in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation, does not extradite its citizens to foreign states - this is prohibited by the Basic Law of the country - the requirement of Poland on the extradition of Russian dispatchers in the case of the Polish presidential plane crash near Smolensk UNrealizable in principle !!!
Moreover, the Polish side cannot but know.

Therefore, this requirement of the Polish authorities - EXACTLY NOW - should be considered not just as another provocation of Poland against Russia, and in particular as a provocation, behind which the United States also stands in connection with the attempted STATE REVOROTA in the Republic of Belarus.

In addition, if we consider that the President of Poland A. Duda was nominated from the ruling party of Yaroslav Kaczynski "Law and Justice", then this provocation should also be regarded as a provocation by Yaroslav Kachinsky himself.

[Mini Mokik]

And what if dispatchers are arrested on request somewhere in Turkey on vacation?

[Tatyana]

This will be considered an illegal abduction of Russian citizens by the Polish authorities on the territory of 3 countries.
But Poland, which is under US patronage, is quite willing to do this and will do it if Washington approves it or orders it: "Fas!"

Therefore, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation must act and react to proactively against revenge of the delusional ideas of the sick Macherevich in the form of provocative and untenable conclusions from the Polish side in the investigation of the plane crash 10 years ago on the Polish presidential plane at the Smolensk airfield.
The Russian Foreign Ministry has every reason for this.

See in detail - The death of Polish President Kaczynski near Smolensk: truth against speculation - Russia 24. // • April 11. 2020 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC3MzH4MYGk&feature=emb_err_woyt

[Reklastik]

You still tell about Bout that this is considered an illegal abduction by the United States of a Russian citizen .... And about all the grounds to protest against this from the Lavrovs, Peskovy and other sarcastic and lingual defenders. The dispatchers will be very happy with the realization of the indispensable protest of Russia if they are detained in Turkey.

[napalm]

Do not add do not subtract. And how many of it Schnicks were arrested, anywhere in our world. By the way, this applies not only to ours. All https://www.romanvega.ru/p/pomosch-i-kontakty.html?m=1 who did not please with something, it is not correctly said who got into their interests. No country is being looked at.

[ASG7]

It is necessary to issue a warrant for the arrest of Polish prosecutors for terrorism, and not flaunt the refusal of their citizens.

[Tatyana]

Quote: ASG7

It is necessary to issue a warrant for the arrest of Polish prosecutors for terrorism, and not flaunt the refusal of their citizens.

I support! This will be a competent response counteraction to the insane and completely insolent Kachin Poles from the Russian Federation.

[venik]

Quote: Tatiana

The Russian Federation, in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation, does not extradite its citizens to foreign states - this is prohibited by the Basic Law of the country

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Further - No comments!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: aszzz888

All skeletons will be taken out of the cabinets.

Already got it. True, not from the closet, but from the grave.
Yes pshekam does not matter, if only the skeleton was

[Ilya-spb]

I remembered an anecdote. Gross.

The plane crashed. Two pilots and flight attendants survived. We ended up on a desert island.
A week later, the first pilot said: "Stop debauchery." And he shot the stewardess.
Two weeks later the co-pilot said: - "Enough debauchery!" And he buried the stewardess.
Three weeks later, both pilots said: "Enough debauchery!" And they dug up the stewardess.

Poles! Maybe that's enough debauchery ?!

[Alex Nevs]

Add to the joke "Polish crashed ......."

[cost]

The Polish prosecutor's office demands the arrest of Smolensk dispatchers in the Tu-154 case

And Ivan Susanin is not required to be arrested?

[Naughty]

Ivan Susanin left for later Next year it will also be necessary to impose a reason for sanctions

[paul3390]

It's time for them to start a business with Minin and Pozharsky .. From the point of view of logs - oh, how much can they incriminate ..

[Blacksmith 55]

Truly, human stupidity has no boundaries.

[Lipchanin]

So it has long been known

[seregatara1969]

This is not stupidity. This is a WAR on all fronts against Russia. Russians bother everyone

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: smith 55

Truly, human stupidity has no boundaries.

Now it is clear why Americans tell jokes about Poles as about stupid, stupid and evil people.
The question is: how did the Germans conquer Poland so quickly?
Answer: They entered backwards, and the Pole thought they were leaving.
***
Question: why did the Pole sell his jet skis?
Answer: he could not find a lake with a hill.
***
Question: How do you know that you are flying over Poland?
Answer: Then you will see toilet paper hanging from the ropes.

[persei]

rather dibilism

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

Already got it. True, not from the closet, but from the grave.
Yes pshekam does not matter, if only the skeleton was

I can imagine how tired the Poles are with Catherine the Great.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

I can imagine how tired the Poles are with Catherine the Great.

They are tired of all of Europe

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

They are tired of all of Europe

Now I understand why the Poles are sending their troops to Turkey.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

Now I understand why the Poles are sending their troops to Turkey.

And in Europe they are not needed by anyone.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

And in Europe they are not needed by anyone.

But what about the Balts?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

But what about the Balts?

I'm talking about serious Europe, not about these clowns who are any shit ... well, happy

[nnm]

... rather, they will dig up Kaczynski as usual and everyday.
Why only at the Polish request of the IAC removed from its website information on the examination of the body of the Assistant Minister of Defense, showing that he was, is not clear. We must return. This is the one that yelled at the pilots so that they would sit down.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: nnm

... rather, they will dig up Kaczynski as usual and everyday.

For some reason, there are notes of doubt in this phrase of yours. Digging Kaczynski is the first thing.

[depressant]

Colleague Polite Elk)))
In such cases, it is customary to say, you made my morning! ))) Habitually digging Kaczynski is a masterpiece worthy of becoming the proverb "digging Kaczynski".

[Polite Moose]

For the sake of fairness, I note that the phrase about the habit of digging Kaczynski belongs to a colleague

Quote: nnm

nnm

... I liked her too. And on my own I can add a couple of lines to the rhyme:
Tili-tili, trawl-wali
We dug Kaczynski

[depressant]

Yes, that's how it is - the Internet! The whole essence of the question will be immediately illuminated by a born aphorism, and the stupidity of the Polish problem immediately becomes visible. Do the Poles themselves understand this? And they don't need to understand the quality of their own policies. They are assigned the role of a watchdog, mindlessly barking at passers-by from behind the fence. The dog believes that the owner feeds him precisely for barking. Thinks correctly.

[persei]

drank-drank, trawl-wali

[Finches]

Yesterday in Warsaw, a high-rise building collapsed, which was being built by Moldovans hired by a Ukrainian firm with Estonian money that Poland had borrowed from England. The building was built according to a project developed in the USA. Polish investigators have concluded that Russia is to blame for the tragic incident.

[Arthur73]

So this is a no-brainer. The Ukrainian company, Moldovan workers (and maybe Ukrainians) could go to work in Moscow or visit relatives, they are recruited, in general, a rather sickly "hiley like" happened. Only in vain they threw such an idea after all, take it as a script :)))

[Civil]

Can't they arrest Smolensk birches?

[svp67]

Quote: aszzz888

All skeletons will be taken out of the cabinets.

It remains to understand only whose skeletons they are and what the same dispatchers have to do with it. Are they willing to convince them to testify that they were FORCED to "drop" this ill-fated plane?
In general, I would take these people under protection now, since recent events show that the opposing side began to use abductions ...

[Mishanya 74]

Actually, the question is difficult ..
Dispatchers could simply forbid landing due to weather conditions.
They didn't ban it?
So everything is not so simple

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Mishanya74

Dispatchers could simply forbid landing due to weather conditions.
They didn't ban it?

Did they have the right to ban board number 1?

[Mishanya 74]

What I don’t know, I don’t know ..
Did not have?

[Lipchanin]

Most likely did not have

[Mishanya 74]

It seems to me that the dispatcher's word is the law for everyone ..
I could be wrong ..

[nnm]

In civil aviation, the final decision to land is with the aircraft commander.

[Lipchanin]

It doesn't work for everyone. They were advised to go on the spare, they ignored

[Mishanya 74]

A recommendation is one thing ..
A categorical prohibition is another

[Insurgent]

Quote: Mishanya74

A recommendation is one thing ..
A categorical prohibition is another

You are an interesting type, however ... You see the obvious: Quote nnm
Today, 07: 50
" In civil aviation, the final decision to land is with the aircraft commander."
, and nevertheless, tell yours.
Obviously not the first time, judging by the "cons"

[sgapich]

Quote: Mishanya74

It seems to me that the dispatcher's word is the law for everyone ..
I could be wrong ..

So that you are not mistaken. For a start, study clause 3.2 of the Final Report on the Investigation of the Tu-154M Aviation Accident, w / n 101, Republic of Poland, then you can look at the AIP RF (AIP RF AD 1.1-1 clause 1 s). All data on the network is freely available.

[svp67]

Quote: Lipchanin

Most likely did not have

In this case, DON'T HAVE

[Lavr75]

Had.
But the PIC made the decision to land. He reported this on the air, thereby removing responsibility from the dispatchers.
In general, see here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5ukfG9sNQk. Very good analysis and reconstruction.

[SVD68]

Moreover, the dispatchers knew that if the Russians forbade the arrogant Poles to do something, they will do the opposite.

[Insurgent]

Quote: SVD68

Moreover, the dispatchers knew that if the Russians forbade the arrogant Poles to do something, they will do the opposite.

This is obvious to them and they will incriminate

Russians played on the Polish-Pan mentality

[likana]

Quote: SVD68

Moreover, the dispatchers knew that if the Russians forbade the arrogant Poles to do something, they will do the opposite.

They often write about the ambition of the Poles, but looking at them from the outside, especially through the prism of their relations with mattress mats, one is convinced that there is no more creepy nation in Europe ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: likana

that there is no more creepy nation in Europe ...

There is. Maybe no more, but no less accurate

[Reviews]

Quote: Mishanya74

Actually, the question is difficult ..
Dispatchers could simply forbid landing due to weather conditions.
They didn't ban it?
So everything is not so simple

According to international rules, the final decision is up to the PIC.

[Mishanya 74]

Do you have a link to these rules?

[Reviews]

Quote: Mishanya74

Do you have a link to these rules?

Not at hand. But this is so well known that it usually does not require citation of the original sources. It's just a fact. And do whatever you want with it.

[Mishanya 74]

Common sense dictates that this is wrong ..
But I will not argue

[Reviews]

Just common sense says that the pilot knows better from the cockpit in every sense. :)

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Avis

Common sense dictates that this is wrong.

Do you want to say that the dispatcher from the booth knows better than the PIC from the cockpit?
Well, it's like the commander of the ship on the bridge knows better what's going on at the bottom than the diver

[Mishanya 74]

Actually yes ..
The dispatcher knows best.

[Pete mitchell]

Let your three kopecks add: Avis colleague is right - the decision to start the approach, the execution of the approach, the decision to land is made by the Commander. The dispatcher, allowing the landing, guarantees that the lane is free, the coverage corresponds to the declared and the required equipment is operational. The rest is up to the Commander: compliance with the minimums for this type of approach, the operability of the aircraft equipment and the readiness of the crew, cockpit ...
I honestly don't understand the impotence of the Russian Foreign Ministry, was the candelabrum lost? Maybe it's time for the Foreign Ministry and the Aviation Authority of the Russian Federation to raise the issue of the safety of Polish aviation, if the Poles insist on the right of the person sitting on the left to drop below the minimum without visual contact with the strip? This is a violation however. The birch tree generally grew below the level of the end of the strip, and they still shake their rights: with a candelabrum, a candelabrum ... I would have remembered them ELP / English /, they shit on everyone.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Mishanya74

The dispatcher knows best.

What does he know better?
Does the pilot of the runway see better, or does he not?

[Moskovit]

If you are not a lazy person, then you can easily find these rules in Google. The Poles wanted to play on this, they say, the board is military, so the decisions are made on the ground, but they were sent, since the board is foreign, which means that over the territory of another country it is considered civil according to international rules. Why wasn't the dispatcher so persistent? The first side of the state flew, and even such ... to put it mildly, rough in the letter g. It would just be an international scandal.
Do not forget that the Polish Yak-40 sat in front of them. The dispatcher warned. The pilot understood that the shavings would be removed from him and took a chance ...

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Moskovit

Do not forget that the Polish Yak-40 sat in front of them. The dispatcher warned ..

And if I'm not mistaken, there is a record where the Yak-40 crew warns the Tupolev crew that conditions are bad and worsening. The dispatcher warned about the same and recommended to consider leaving for a spare. It's no secret that flying with bureaucrats / deputies / provincial officials is always a headache, especially if it's an official flight. The crew made the wrong decision, sorry for the birch tree ...

[Reviews]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

And if I'm not mistaken, there is a record where the Yak-40 crew warns the Tupolev crew that conditions are bad and worsening.

Right. I quote from memory, the meaning is preserved: "Name, in short, conditions - seams." (I just don't remember the name of the Tu-154 cap, by which the cap of the Yak-40 turned to him).

[Pete mitchell]

To be honest with the catastrophe, everything is more or less clear - violation of flight rules.
If the Poles insist, then the attitude to the rules of their crews, the aviation authorities, who turn a blind eye to violations: it is necessary to bring them to the international level - they fly everywhere ... just pay the attention of the “civilized” public that a few years ago European licenses ATPL issued in Poland were immediately rejected by some companies ...

[Reviews]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Honestly, with the disaster, everything is more or less clear

Yes, everything is already there crystal clear. It is only the demoniac itch it.
But the stewardesses in the government squad are even nothing. :)

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Avis

there is even nothing in the government unit

I'm embarrassed to ask, and whose government unit are you talking about? Once I witnessed how the girls were lured into VVIP aviation - of course they looked at their appearance, but they lured away the three most experienced ones.

[Reviews]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: Avis

there is even nothing in the government unit

I'm embarrassed to ask, and whose government unit are you talking about?

Polish.

[Pete mitchell]

Let's be honest - they are generally attractive Slavs

[Reviews]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Let's be honest - they are generally attractive Slavs

I'm the last one to argue with this. :)
Although, one of the prettiest girls I've seen was Swiss. Accent, like, French ...

(+) By the way, the Polish Air Force ...

... and Czech.

[Pete mitchell]

I apologize wildly, but I have a negative attitude towards the girls in the cockpit, old-fashioned: kinder, kutchen, kirhen ...

[Reviews]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

I apologize wildly, but I have a negative attitude towards the girls in the cockpit, old-fashioned: kinder, kutchen, kirhen ...

I will not argue, but I disagree. But this is a very wild off-topic here.

[Reviews]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

there is a record where the crew of the Yak-40 warns the crew of the Tupolev that the conditions are rubbish and worsening. The dispatcher warned about the same and recommended to consider leaving for a spare.

I decided, nevertheless, to quote exactly:

Everything is very simple and extremely sad. Apparently good guys, but too conformist campaigners. :(

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Avis

very simple, and extremely sad. Apparently good guys, but too conformist campaigners

being a good guy is not enough, you should also remember that Captain has the final responsibility for the safe execution of the flight, something like this

[Reviews]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Captain has the final responsibility for the safe execution of the flight

And that's what I mean. "Conformity" ... :(

[Lavr75]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5ukfG9sNQk. Очень хороший разбор и реконструкция.

[Sly]

Quote: Mishanya74

.
Dispatchers could simply forbid landing due to weather conditions.

The dispatchers could not prohibit something to the international board - only recommend it.

[svp67]

Quote: Mishanya74

Dispatchers could simply forbid landing due to weather conditions.
They didn't ban it?

Not in this case. The dispatcher can only inform and advise such aircraft, but not order something. They informed the situation. The crew, it is on the tapes of the recorders, made the decision himself and the commander did not want to land there, but the commander-in-chief of the Polish Air Force PERSONALLY GIVEN AN ORDER and PUSHED on the aircraft commander

[U-58]

The final decision is always for the PIC. And if he violates the prohibition or neglects the recommendation, then this is his decision and his responsibility

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Mishanya74

Dispatchers could simply forbid landing due to weather conditions.
They didn't ban it?
So everything is not so simple

Actually, he couldn't. It's time to know the basics at your age .. The decision to land is taken personally by the PIC. In general, first of all, this clinical degenerate is personally to blame for the catastrophe - Kachinsky, who created a nervous situation on board and tugged at the ship's commander ... Who already "let him down" just once without landing the board in Tbilisi in 2008.

[Mishanya 74]

The decision can and does the pilot.
It is clear that dispatchers cannot remotely take an aircraft to another airfield ..
The question is different.
Did the dispatchers do everything to prevent the disaster or not ..

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Mishanya74

The decision can and does the pilot.
It is clear that dispatchers cannot remotely take an aircraft to another airfield ..
The question is different.
Did the dispatchers do everything to prevent the disaster or not ..

All. The dispatchers, unlike the Poles, are not or even Swiss.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Mishanya74

Did the dispatchers do everything to prevent the disaster or not ..

The dispatcher performed a standard set of actions - further the decision of the crew. If RVR / VIS matches, then you can go. Therefore, the left one is called Pilot in Command - this is his plane.
I will repeat: all sorts of VIPs / bureaucrats / deputies, especially special flights - are buzzing and sometimes you have to rigidly designate positions in space.
... if visibility is not good
And runaway nichrome is not visible
Do not bridge, you will not be understood here
So that after it was not offensive ...

[Reviews]

© Vadim Zakharov.

[Pete mitchell]

He is. He is remembered in S7, last year he was interested in the guys

[Reviews]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

He is. He is remembered in S7, last year he was interested in the guys

He is known and remembered by the entire ex-Aeroflot (real, Soviet). He is still performing. One of the most famous sites is the Capercaillie Nest.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Avis

He is known and remembered by the entire ex-Aeroflot (real, Soviet)

I was a militarist from the beginning, although we also listened to him, of course, especially at school. God willing I will get to the "Nest" one day, thank you for the hint

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Cyril G ...

who created a nervous situation on board and jerked the commander of the ship ... Who already "let him down" once without landing the board in Tbilisi in 2008.

The Captain Who Failed clinical degenerate almost immediately ended up in civilized, probably terribly sorry ... The victim in Smolensk was like the second in Tbilisi, but the example worked — everyone died.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

The captain who “let down” the clinical degenerate almost immediately ended up in civilians, probably terribly regrets ... The one who died in Smolensk was like the second in Tbilisi, but the example worked - everyone died.

Yes. Thanks for the amendment. And yes, I agree, the example worked specifically

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Cyril G ...

example worked specifically

The example is bad, and the result is even worse. As already mentioned above, that's why he and Pilot in Command, but this, the land rest in peace to him, apparently not mature enough ...

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: svp67

It remains to understand only whose skeletons they are and what the same dispatchers have to do with it. Are they willing to convince them to testify that they were FORCED to "drop" this ill-fated plane?

Getting skeletons to testify - special skills are needed.
As for the dispatchers, there are black boxes (if they were not buried before decryption) and the fixing equipment of the AP.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Getting skeletons to testify - special skills are needed.

Yes, they will knock on the kidneys, he will give any evidence

[Vladimir Demyanov]

The Poles are clearly necrophilic. And to knock on the kidneys of the skeleton is generally necromagic. "They drank potion in turtles, ate bagels, blasphemers danced on coffins. Scary, already horror."

[Alexey RA]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Getting skeletons to testify - special skills are needed.

Duc ... will be like a bearded anecdote:

Archaeologists in Egypt have unearthed the mummy of another pharaoh. They cannot determine who he is and from which dynasty. We invited specialists from all over the world. And they could not. We turned to the USSR. A KGB officer was sent to them. He went into the crypt, closed and did not leave for three hours. Finally came out, wiped the sweat from his forehead and said
- Ramses is such and such from such and such a dynasty.
- How did you find out? archaeologists and other specialists ask him.
“I confessed myself,” said the KGB officer.

[svp67]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

As for the dispatchers, that is, the black boxes

And then there are the fantasies of the lords, which they believe to be true.

[siberalt]

And why not ask their prosecutor's office to arrest our president? And, isn't it time to establish correspondence with the Dutch Prosecutor's Office by courier by means of our Iskander-type vehicle? You look, and the Boeing case will get off the ground.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: siberalt

Why not ask their prosecutor's office to arrest our president?

I remember that some district court in Kiev had already given permission to its security officials to seize documents in the Administration of the President of the Russian Federation. To the question "How are the documents? Did you like it?" then our "non-brothers were silent like a fish on ice.

The Pechersk court thus granted the petition of the investigator for especially important cases of the General Prosecutor's Office of Ukraine.
The petition states that a search was requested for the “building at the address: Moscow, Ilinka St., d.23”.

The court ruled to satisfy the request.
For "seizure of documents," the court singled out the Ukrainian investigator 30 days.
In Moscow, a Ukrainian investigator is already expected ...

December 22, 2016. Moscow has been waiting for a search for four years ... They are probably afraid ...

https://topwar.ru/106084-pecherskiy-sud-kieva-razreshil-provesti-obysk-v-administracii-prezidenta-rf.html

[Reviews]

Quote: siberalt

to arrange correspondence by courier by means of our Iskander-type vehicle?

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%82%D0%B0

[Terenin]

For Poland, for complete happiness, it remains to request for arrest, all Russian birches, at the rate of the fall of their plane

[sergo1914]

The forest near Smolensk must be arrested. All. And rain.

[Pravodel]

Last year's snow, too, but how can a forest be arrested without snow ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: sergo1914

The forest near Smolensk must be arrested. All. And rain.

It's good that you won't arrest that birch anymore

[Wedmak]

These and from the other world will get a birch ... Others got it ...

[Lipchanin]

These mooogut

[Reviews]

Quote: Wedmak

These and from the other world will get a birch ... Others got it ...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rsecdTLEKHs

[sgapich]

Quote: Lipchanin

It's good that you won't arrest that birch anymore

By the way, it would be nice to bring Poland to justice for that birch in accordance with Article 261 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (Destruction or damage of forest plantations). Photos available:

[mikh-korsakov]

Let them try to arrest him. In general, Poland is arrogant.

[Mountain shooter]

And the dispatchers with their insistent advice to go to the "spare" and led to a disaster! The ambition "leaped" Well, explosives, again ... and the "newbie" was not there? And what, to the heap, why be ashamed ... the Middle Ages would have been, Lucifer would have been dragged ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

would be the Middle Ages, Lucifer would be dragged ..

Who's in the way now? And abruptly stupidity has already been seen from them.

[Vladimir_6]

The Polish prosecutor's office demands the arrest of Smolensk dispatchers in the Tu-154 case

The Poles were overworked in the litigation with Batka. We decided to change the topic.

[Reviews]

Quote: Vladimir_6

The Polish prosecutor's office demands the arrest of Smolensk dispatchers in the Tu-154 case

The Poles were overworked in the litigation with Batka. We decided to change the topic.

Back to the old mania.

[Vladimir Demyanov]

Did the dispatcher want to hide? Grounds for arrest? Come here yourself and ask questions in the presence of a lawyer! In this case, the arrest can be considered pressure on the witnesses.

[Lipchanin]

This is not a theater of the absurd, this is a madhouse at its worst

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Lipchanin

it's a madhouse at its worst

Well, why the worst? In my opinion, they play great. Can't be distinguished from the present.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Polite Elk

Well, why the worst?

You want to say, it couldn't get worse?

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Lipchanin

You want to say, it couldn't get worse?

On the contrary. The madhouse is superbly executed. Bravo!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Polite Elk

Bravo!

Well then, on "Bis"

[Vladimir Demyanov]

This is no longer an encore. This is a continuous repetition: all the same on the arena and so on in a year.

[Arthur73]

Indeed, the theater of the absurd. Either the newly minted "prezident" from Poland demands something from Russia, then the Polish prosecutor again demands the arrest of Russian citizens for a hastily concocted re-investigation of the plane crash, where they, in the spirit of the times, allegedly saw "the omnipresent hand of Moscow ". When will the states re-investigate the Kennedy assassination? Late. :)))

[Reptiloid]

Try their best to maintain interest. What would their population just think about it!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Arthur73

When will the states re-investigate the Kennedy assassination? Late. :)))

They haven't finished the investigation of Lincoln's murder yet.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Arthur73

investigation into the kennedy assassination

And I am offended for Captain Cook, the guilty have not been punished!

[Ros 56]

Send the ambassador of these idiots and end all relations, including economic ones, let them be treated in a psychiatric hospital. When they are cured, then we'll see.

[Sayan]

The asylum will not cure - only to the morgue - without options, although ... you can go to the zoo ... or better in the Kunst-chamber

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Sayan

or better in the Kunst-chamber

To the terrarium

[Dude]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Sayan

or better in the Kunst-chamber

To the terrarium

In the serpentarium right away!))

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Dude

In the serpentarium right away!))

All over the zoo

[aszzz888]

+1
Quote: Lipchanin
Quote: Sayan
or better in the Kunst-chamber

To the terrarium

In the serpentarium right away!))

To crocodiles, or at worst to tigers.

[Ros 56]

What did crocodiles and tigers do badly to you, why feed them with lyakhi, they deserve more, well, for example, chickens.

[evgen1221]

The arrogance of the fact of blue does not allow to admit, so they are trying to climb.

[Ross xnumx]

Stupid "elephantiality" has firmly penetrated all branches of the Polish government: even after having done a big job, these bastards are trying to extract gold from the contents of their trousers.

[Coconut]

Poles need to show a hard landing direction ... of three letters

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Coco

Poles need to show a hard landing direction ... of three letters

WFP?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Polite Elk

WFP?

Like that, only the first letter is X, the second is ig, and the last "And" is short

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Lipchanin

Something like that

Hmm. Do you think they will find it? The last time they were there was in 1613. And they had a guide - they needed it. Or rather: a semiconductor.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Polite Elk

Or rather: a semiconductor.

No really. A complete guide. Completed the matter

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Lipchanin

Completed the matter

They were actually going to a slightly different place ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Polite Elk

They were actually going to a slightly different place ...

You never know where they were going. The Russian peasant knows better where to lead

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Lipchanin

You never know where they were going.

Quote: Arthur73

Yes, they arrived normally, right to their destination!

I agree with you, colleagues. All uninvited guests in Russia have one road.

[Arthur73]

Yes, they arrived normally, right to their destination!

[Reviews]

Quote: Polite Moose

Quote: Coco

Poles need to show a hard landing direction ... of three letters

WFP?

There is a common misprint among people referring to the runway - "VVP". Here they must be sent to the GDP. And the GDP ... Well, further - according to fantasy. :)

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Avis

Here they must be sent to the GDP.

He's already up to his neck. I propose to send them to the ZHPP.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Polite Elk

I propose to send them to the ZHPP.

Yes all over the alphabet

[rocket757]

Nasty !!! A new, highly contagious disease called "brainworming" has been discovered !!! While it has been identified in a specific territory, it is especially dangerous in the party-bureaucratic environment!

[Reptiloid]

Is this a new disease? They just tried to hide for a long time! good morning Victor!

[rocket757]

Hi Dmitry
Anything hidden breaks out, sooner or later.
To drive back is very, very, difficult.

[Reptiloid]

..... hidden breaks out .......

well, the corpses for exhumation did not break out on their own Caring fellow citizens do not give them rest. Tudy-syudy pull them.
In the Middle Ages, the Catholic Inquisition would have sent such curious people to the stake, so that they would not be clever.

[rocket757]

The church is now looking out of sight, and they will not let her into such tough affairs.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

The church is now looking out of sight, and they will not let her into such tough affairs.

Poles have always been very committed to Catholicism

[rocket757]

Suppose that for those in power, the church has long been just an instrument of influence, management, everything is very cynical about piety there ... as everywhere else with the same people.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

Suppose that for those in power, the church has long been just an instrument of influence, management, everything is very cynical about piety there ... as everywhere else with the same people.

Well yes! The church in different countries is gradually deviating from its rules ...

[rocket757]

She also wants to live and the better, the more preferable for them. The rules change in everything.

[Vladimir Demyanov]

And there (near Smolensk) it was the Primate of the military who welled up. Valesa also commented that God only threatened him with a finger. Didn't work on some.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: rocket757

! A new, highly contagious disease called "brainworming" has been discovered !!!

Or maybe the CIA is testing a new modification of the "Novice" there?

[rocket757]

For the "newbie" is not at all CLEAR! Is this a BOV or "deodorant" with a slight disorienting effect, from which only fish and cats can radically suffer ???
And in Poland everything is more specific, the brain blows away completely!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: rocket757

For the "newbie" is not at all CLEAR!

We recently came to the conclusion that they can brush their teeth.

[rocket757]

Not for cats! it's fatal for them!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: rocket757

Not for cats! it's fatal for them!

Yes, I somehow never saw cats brushing their teeth with paste

[Observer2014]

If this goes on, then they will get to the vodka producers.
They got drunk, took off, continued to eat strong, let's command the pilots, crashed. Everything is logical. But before we got drunk. Vodka was bought and produced! So everything is logical.

[Shuttle]

Hospadi, give mind to the sick, do not bypass them with your mercy. Our neighbors are still ...

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Shuttle

Hospadi, give mind to the sick, do not bypass them with your mercy. Our neighbors are still ...

Judging by the comments of ordinary citizens

"Theater of the absurd", "And the prosecutor's office has no questions to prepare the flight for departure in Warsaw?"

the Lord did not deprive the whole nation. And how many do not feed these, they still look into the Belarusian forest

[kolkulon]

How can I not recall Lavrov's quote ...

[Reviews]

There is no rest for freaks ... No, well, the rule of "autumn-spring aggravation" really works. At one time I thought it was a joke.
Interestingly, and their "institute of national unconsciousness" has already forgotten about General Sikorski, is it? There wow, how many countries can you roll out a claim!

[Karaul73]

Novice's pilots were sniffing, apparently. Therefore, it did not work to sit down.

[Reviews]

Quote: Sentry73

Novice's pilots were sniffing, apparently. Therefore, it did not work to sit down.

And you do not know ?! It has long been known to everyone that a capsule with a "novice" and a radio-controlled needle was placed in the lower box of the SCV.

[samarin1969]

If there was an "explosive" on the plane, then let Bastrykin demand the arrest of the Polish Minister of Transport, aviation technicians, SAB officers and other "guilty-witnesses" who helped deliver the "bomb" to the territory of the Russian Federation.
The barking of this auntie is just the height of absurdity.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Let us remind you that earlier the subcommittee headed by the ex-Minister of Defense of Poland Antoni Macerevich announced the alleged discovery of traces of explosives on the Tu-154 wreckage.

I would not be surprised if this subcommittee, in addition to the traces of the explosive, finds in the wreckage traces of something else that is very fashionable now.

[Asad]

It is clear that these are all wet dreams of the Poles! But if, for example, a dispatcher wants to go to Europe, what will they arrest?

[novel66]

sure, with pleasure

[your1970]

It is quite possible - in Poland and Limitrofah, in all other EU countries - hardly.
Interpol needs a criminal case, that is, the Poles need to come up with some kind of guilt punishable by the dispatcher under the Criminal Code of Poland. For example, I could not think of it - what can they blame them? Violation of flight rules? No, terrorism? No, planting birch in the wrong place? Not...
They need to come up with something in their UK ...

[thinker]

To catch at least some elements of logic in this theater of the absurd.

As a result of a second analysis of the evidence, the prosecutor's office established that the radar landing system used at the Smolensk airport had failed and the dot indicating the position of the aircraft had disappeared from the dispatchers' monitors. Therefore, most of the information provided by the controllers to the pilots about the location of the aircraft was false: they gave the pilots commands to descend and land without knowing their actual location.

[Avior]

How did they determine it?
The system of video recording from the radar screen, according to an official statement, did not work, as is known.

[Reserve buildbat]

"Now the National Prosecutor's Office of Poland announces the filing of a claim with the Warsaw District Court ..."
Have these hyena-like animals decided that their small-town court has the supreme right in the world? It looks like it's too late to send to the madhouse. put everyone to sleep in bulk.

[Blue fox]

Here are the devils. Next time they demand to arrest Minin and Pozharsky?

[Old partisan]

Until the country has an adequate tough against the enemies of the nation of the president and the government, every booger will drink blood and twist his hands.
And partners are different and have from the rear.

[Mimino]

Let them detain their mother.

[SeregaBoss]

Insanity grows stronger every day.
Well, you have to respond to hatred with hatred.

[cniza]

Why be like stupid, they are trying to achieve this, then they need to be thought out to strangle them ...

[7,62x54]

To clarify all the details of the case, we invite the entire Polish elite to fly around the Smolensk forest. And take this prosecutor with you too.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Where is the absurdity? This is the West, everything is very clear there, the usual hypocritical community. "Poisoning" from the same opera.

[cniza]

Yes, and they will not calm down, it looks like the West wanted to fight ...

[mark1]

It is necessary to open a criminal case against the Polish prosecutor's office and arrest the whole crowd.
Prescribe compulsory treatment during the investigation.

[Vladimirsky]

I am bastard from these arrogant pigs .. And the jambs themselves had a cart and a small cart ... Recently, our air expert published an investigation of this case on Zen ... I recommend - everything is laid out on the shelves, reads like a novel in 8 parts. He will post the eighth one of these days. https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5daad4a0c7e50c00b1294ff0/obrechennyi-reis-chast-1-5e85641fbd6e884c2117b1a7

[Daniil Konovalenko]

"And what are these steps on the stairs, and they are going to arrest us. Aaaa ... well, well, let's see" (c)

[Hog]

Theater of the absurd.

I hope they understand that from the outside they look like escaped from a mental hospital?

[cniza]

And even in the eyes of their own voters.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

and they still want to arrest the birch?

[Dysindich]

Soon they will bring charges against the Smolensk birch-killer ...
Not a single dispatcher was present in the event, as in the cockpit, there were not pilots, but Air Force pilots, led by their drunken commander. (with what they did at the entrance, they will not allow us to the right cup ...)

[Alexander X]

And the psheks would like to arrest Ivan Susanin, but their hands are short - they cannot reach Paradise ...

[Reviews]

Quote: Alexander X

And the psheks would like to arrest Ivan Susanin, but their hands are short - they cannot reach Paradise ...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rsecdTLEKHs

[sleeve]

Well? On the face of two criminal articles. An attempt on the freedom of a citizen of Russia. An attempt on a good name (sorry, not legally). The request for pre-investigation verification will remain unanswered. As a result, two cases were opened. A request through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in order to clarify the level of initiative with an explanation that the Psheki gentlemen have crept into our criminality. Same no answer. Well, Interpol. And then what is there to write and be indignant? Until the Smolensk dispatchers accidentally end up in custody in Poland?

[esso]

In response, I would put on the wanted list and arrest those persons, the Polish prosecutor's office, who initiate this. Also, sanctions against persons in Poland who will not calm down.

[sleeve]

So what is it about. And you don't need to invent anything.

[Alex Nevs]

Here came a new feature ".. digging (digging) Kachinsky ..."

[cniza]

To blame Russia, they are ready to do it several times a day, but from the outside they are stupid and ridiculous ...

[tralflot1832]

Dispatchers can spoil their lives in confidence if they suddenly want to go abroad.

[cniza]

Yes, they won't be able to go anywhere now.

[Cyril G ...]

The circus left, but the stupid clowns remained ...
From zhezh.

[Radius]

Hmm ... A rare bird flies beyond Smolensk! :)

[cniza]

The Polish prosecutor's office demands the arrest of Smolensk dispatchers in the Tu-154 case

The Poles are once again begging to stop their statehood and the United States will not help ...

[APASUS]

That is why the remains of the Tu-154 will never end up in Poland. And in Russia it is impossible for the Poles to plant new evidence or rewrite facts ...............

[cniza]

Definitely, these will not blink an eye and concoct everything to blame Russia.

[Was mammoth]

"We will remind that earlier the subcommittee headed by the ex-Minister of Defense of Poland Antoni Matserevich announced the alleged discovery of traces of explosives on the wreckage of Tu-154."
It was a Novice. "Poles need to attract experts from Germany, France and Great Britain. These will confirm.

[demo]

It's high time the prosecutor's office of the Smolensk region prohibit persons of Polish nationality from approaching the memorial in Katyn at a distance of less than 1000 meters.
Better yet, generally 10 km.

Sergius of Radonezh was asked a provocative question - what if you are an Orthodox Christian and they hit you on your right cheek? After all, it is impossible to respond to violence with violence.
The answer is striking - if you respond to evil with meekness and kindness, then how to respond to good?

Either it's morning now, or it's time to respond to the inadequacy with asymmetry.

The motivation for such a ban may be as follows - to avoid such incidents that could lead to death.
Place plaques on the borders of the memorial, similar to those on transformer substations.

[Radius]

Quote: Was Mammoth

"We will remind that earlier the subcommittee headed by the ex-Minister of Defense of Poland Antoni Matserevich announced the alleged discovery of traces of explosives on the wreckage of Tu-154."
It was a Novice. "Poles need to attract experts from Germany, France and Great Britain. These will confirm.

That's for sure ... Soon jokes will be circulating about British scientists and German experts!

[Goblin_1974]

What is the problem? Put this Polish prosecutor on the wanted list and let them worry now.

[Dikson]

You can, of course, laugh at the Polish statement .. But let's imagine that they will smuggle this claim through international institutions .. And then what? Wait until people are kidnapped and then express concerns and dance the lady?

[Dysindich]

It sucks if they start stealing our officers ... :-) (this already looks like military action)

[ved_med12]

Will the defenders of the Russian dispatchers be summoned to the Warsaw District Court?

[Ingvar7401]

There were no dispatchers in Smolensk, and now there are none. For those who understand at least a little.
D .... ly

[Ivan Tixiy]

Insanity in the Polish version is something

[Tavi]

the spring exacerbation smoothly turned into autumn ...

[tatra]

The Polish enemies of the communists are acting quite logically. If the Russian enemies of the communists declared the authorities of their country criminals for the fact that they took the Russian lands occupied by the Poles from the Poles in 1939, declared the authorities of their country in the Katyn case as criminals, then they should also recognize the dispatchers in the case of the Polish plane crash in Russia as criminals.

[Vladimir Demyanov]

It's time to reread Larisa Prudnikova. Katyn. A lie that has become true.
Conduct your investigation, not under the supervision of Stankevich. To put an end to this question. To prohibit other statements on this topic, as the same Poles did on the issue of the Second World War and in other liberated countries, at the cost of the lives of our soldiers. Let them grieve, if they want, they will be more whole. And if it turns out that the Union is not to blame, that they broke up in vain?

[1536]

The Poles apparently dream of putting all Russian citizens in a Polish concentration camp? Why waste time on trifles when the Poles have such luck?

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

***
They also want to arrest Susanin...
***

[Rage66]

And they want to impose sanctions on Kuzbass... Because it mines and sells coal

[Kostadinov]

Very small - some dispatchers. We need an arrest warrant for Putin, who commanded everything from the Kremlin.
It may be necessary to issue an arrest warrant for Stalin and the builders of the airport in Smolensk.
It’s interesting that they haven’t yet discovered the newcomer in the cockpit.

[iouris]

If you look “as a whole” (and this is exactly how you should look at “absurdity”), then ideological, political and psychological preparations are being made for (final) victory. So called “facts” don’t matter and there is no point in answering intelligently or presenting the facts. We must not hope that everything around us will “dissolve on its own,” but begin to scare the population of our “partners” with our “complete frostbite.” The population of the “partners” also expects to profit at our expense; life is now difficult and getting worse. This makes military aggression very likely. And “inside” a lot has already been prepared: the work on introducing “absurd values” has been carried out in a huge, systematic, targeted manner.

[Tavi]

Quote: Rich

The Polish prosecutor's office demands the arrest of Smolensk dispatchers in the Tu-154 case

And Ivan Susanin is not required to be arrested?

hush, hush, otherwise they’ll take over him now....

[musorg]

Polish inventors, like the Balts, are competing with Kiev to see who can come up with the most Russophobic horror story!

[Gunter prereen]

Counter demand! In connection with the threat to the lives of residents of the Smolensk region, as well as the environmental disaster as a result of the crash of a Polish plane, I propose that the main culprit, Kaczynski, be brought to justice! Due to the fact that this subject himself was on the plane, demand extradition to bring his twin brother to justice!

[NF68]

This way they can try to arrest Susanin’s current relatives.

[Tarasios]

If you think like that, then there are demands that need to be strictly suppressed, and even “smacked in the face” in response, instead of polite objections and vague refusals. For example, a neighbor loudly and publicly “demands that you hand over your wife and daughters to him for fucking.” Like, they looked askance at him and he, the neighbor, thought they were subject to punishment. And you, they say, must not only give up your women, but you must also lead them by the hand and hold a candle... The point is also that not only your relatives are looking at you, who somewhere understand that this is “another provocation”, but so are the rest of the “peaceful neighbors”. If you give up any slack and let things go, expect a change in relations from these “neighbors” too. Politics, damn it. Therefore, at least from time to time, it is necessary to poke the edge into the edges of those who have become distraught from impunity. Otherwise, the whole “good neighborly” pack will attack...

[Seaflame]

The Poles have already written that they found traces of explosives, like they were planted when the plane was being repaired in the Russian Federation, why bother the dispatchers then? Oh, it’s not for nothing that one Western politician called Poland the hyena of Europe...

[AML]

Quote: Gunter Preen

Counter demand! In connection with the threat to the lives of residents of the Smolensk region, as well as the environmental disaster as a result of the crash of a Polish plane, I propose that the main culprit, Kaczynski, be brought to justice! Due to the fact that this subject himself was on the plane, demand extradition to bring his twin brother to justice!

And yes, since the Poles “found” traces of explosives, they can put forward the assumption of preparing a terrorist act on Russian territory. Summon your wife, dog, cat, etc. for questioning. If the Poles resist, then declare them a country promoting the spread of terrorism.

It sounds absurd, but it is quite in line with Polish throwings.

[Pavel57]

Now it is fashionable to find traces of the Newbie.

[Rage66]

It would be nice to arrest the birches and sentence them to capital punishment.