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Polish press: "Putin is condemned in Minsk"

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The Polish media are publishing materials dedicated to the meeting between Vladimir Putin and Alexander Lukashenko that took place in Sochi the day before. The large edition Rzeczpospolita publishes material, which the author called "Putin is condemned in Minsk."


"Condemnation" is connected with the fact that the Russian president received Alexander Lukashenko and once again (now at a face-to-face meeting) congratulated him on his victory in the elections. The opposition forces of Belarus continue to state about the facts of election fraud, not recognizing Lukashenka's legitimacy. At the same time, no lawsuits have been filed with the court regarding "massive falsifications" at the moment.

The publication points out that Lukashenko at the residence of the President of Russia Bocharov Ruchey tried with all his might to show his loyalty, calling Russia "big brother" and noting that what is happening in Belarus is "a lesson to all post-Soviet republics."

The article publishes a statement by the Belarusian political scientist Alexander Klaskouski, who is sure that Lukashenka has lost legitimacy not only in the eyes of the West, but also in the eyes of the Belarusian people. After that, Klaskovsky repeated the thesis expressed the day before in Lithuania by Svetlana Tikhanovskaya:

Any agreements concluded with him may be terminated after a change of government in Minsk.

And the day before in Sochi, the presidents of the two countries discussed the situation in Belarus and Russian-Belarusian relations for about 4,5 hours. Putin promised to provide Minsk with a considerable loan - $ 1,5 billion. Lukashenka declared the need for close economic integration.

Lukashenko:

The economy is at the heart of everything. And believe that we have always adhered to this line. But these events showed that we need to stay closer with our older brother and cooperate on all issues, including in the economy.

However, in the end, no agreements were signed.
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website of the President of Belarus
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 15 September 2020 07: 23
    +4
    Polish media outlets
    advice, let him come back ... here you are not there, they can pluck feathers.
    1. Finches
      Finches 15 September 2020 07: 35
      33
      It is necessary to cover correctly - there are people in Minsk who condemn Putin for preventing them from exchanging jobs at BelAZ factories for jobs in Amsterdam brothels! And this is not so democratic! laughing

      This is the association that came to my mind in the morning - remember the scene from the Hollywood cranberries "Men in Black", where Will Smith and his partner look into the locker cell, and there little intelligent hamsters are chanting in chorus "Sasha Gray! Sasha Gray" (or something- something like that), and then they run together in a striptease - exactly like the rallies of the Belarusian opposition with a similar slogan for Tikhonovskaya laughing
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 15 September 2020 07: 41
        10
        Polish press: "Putin is condemned in Minsk"

        "Condemnation" is connected with the fact that the Russian president received Alexander Lukashenko and once again (now at a face-to-face meeting) congratulated him on his victory in the elections. The opposition forces of Belarus continue to state about the facts of election fraud, not recognizing Lukashenka's legitimacy.


        "Who are the judges? .."- Chatsky's monologue from the comedy" Woe from Wit "(act II phenomenon 5)
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 15 September 2020 07: 49
          0
          as a result, no agreements were signed
          We just talked over a glass of tea ...
          1. halpat
            halpat 15 September 2020 08: 08
            -7
            Quote: Uncle Lee
            as a result, no agreements were signed
            We just talked over a glass of tea ...

            no ... do not believe ... there is a whole UAZ (loaf) of secret pacts signed.
            1. Uncle lee
              Uncle lee 15 September 2020 08: 21
              +3
              Announce the entire list, pzhalusta ...
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 15 September 2020 14: 20
                0
                Please remind me of the last time Lukashenka called the Russian people "Big Brother" before the current events.
            2. siberalt
              siberalt 15 September 2020 08: 25
              10
              We allow ourselves to wipe our feet. Isn't it sick to send the Polish ambassador for obvious hostile attacks against Russia by the Polish gentry? They, in fact, have declared a full-scale information war on us! Or will we continue to chew snot?
              1. Vol4ara
                Vol4ara 15 September 2020 09: 24
                +3
                Quote: siberalt
                We allow ourselves to wipe our feet. Isn't it sick to send the Polish ambassador for obvious hostile attacks against Russia by the Polish gentry? They, in fact, have declared a full-scale information war on us! Or will we continue to chew snot?

                The Poles will also send someone to meet us, but what if we need diplomats there?
              2. archergoo
                archergoo 16 September 2020 00: 28
                0
                I think all the moves have been calculated, the best recommendations have been given. We heard how Makei spoke, or else it will be, we live at an interesting time
          2. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 15 September 2020 09: 22
            -6
            Quote: Uncle Lee
            as a result, no agreements were signed
            We just talked over a glass of tea ...

            1. Sklendarka
              Sklendarka 15 September 2020 09: 57
              0
              Quote: Vol4ara
              Quote: Uncle Lee
              as a result, no agreements were signed
              We just talked over a glass of tea ...


        2. rocket757
          rocket757 15 September 2020 08: 09
          +1
          They are the only judges themselves, light elfs .... yes, and the truth is only one and only them! Nothing new, in principle ... it could have gone for a ride, or it could have come out steeper, there was not enough intelligence to prepare better, too small specialists got down to business, not of that kind.
          Further, everything will go more thoughtful, because real specialists are pulling up, and they have already started spending money on a large scale.
        3. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 15 September 2020 08: 51
          +5
          Quote: Insurgent
          "Who are the judges? .." - Chatsky's monologue from the comedy "Woe from Wit" (act II phenomenon 5)

          "Hyenas of Europe" Churchill
        4. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 September 2020 08: 51
          +2
          Quote: Insurgent
          "Who are the judges? .."

          If you look well, then these are the subjects of the Russian Empire.
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 15 September 2020 09: 12
            0
            Are we citizens of the Russian Empire?
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 15 September 2020 09: 22
              +2
              Quote: Mikhail3
              Are we citizens of the Russian Empire?

              I do not know about you, but I am a citizen of the USSR, because I have no other citizenship.
              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 15 September 2020 09: 25
                0
                That is, you just blurted out something without looking. The Russian Empire knew how to deal with its subjects. And her deeds are hers. And not ours. And you are not a subject, the USSR did not have those. You don't know who you are ...
                1. Kart
                  Kart 15 September 2020 09: 30
                  -1
                  Emigrant who.
                  Left the USSR, no Russian citizenship.
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 15 September 2020 09: 56
                    +1
                    Quote: Carte
                    Left the USSR, no Russian citizenship.

                    I did not leave the USSR, it was the USSR that left, or you forgot. And I still live in the territory of the former USSR, just like you.
            2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 15 September 2020 09: 28
              -1
              Quote: Mikhail3
              Are we citizens of the Russian Empire?

              And who are you?
              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 15 September 2020 09: 33
                -5
                Man of God, sheathed with leather. I have it in my profile)
                1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                  Boris ⁣ Shaver 15 September 2020 10: 59
                  -1
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  Man of God, sheathed with leather. I have it in my profile)

                  Ok, here we divide "natural Russian subjects" and subjects of "foreigners" (the same Poles).
                  1. Mikhail3
                    Mikhail3 15 September 2020 12: 01
                    -1
                    Who shares? What for? In Russia, only those who separated themselves were divided.
                    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                      Boris ⁣ Shaver 15 September 2020 14: 03
                      0
                      Quote: Mikhail3
                      Who shares?

                      Right.

                      Quote: Mikhail3
                      What for?

                      Foreigners, for example, were left with the right of tribal government, provided for a different attitude to military service, etc., etc.

                      Quote: Mikhail3
                      In Russia, only those who separated themselves were divided.

                      Reasonable. Subjects of law could well have finished off themselves in order to obtain additional freedoms (preservation of the order, the already mentioned clan administration, etc.), while sacrificing certain rights. I don't exclude it.
                      1. Mikhail3
                        Mikhail3 15 September 2020 15: 59
                        0
                        What is this, excuse me, dregs? The man called the Poles "subjects of the Russian Empire. Since the subjects of the Russian Empire can obviously be judged only by its subjects (for example, the tsarist ministers), I asked - who are we? Does any of us have the right to get into the affairs of the state, which has distant relation (as well as to the Poles, of course), if any.
                        Then some kind of garbage went ...
                      2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 16 September 2020 08: 35
                        +1
                        Quote: Mikhail3
                        What is this, excuse me, dregs?

                        Dregs, sorry, in your head.

                        Quote: Mikhail3
                        obviously can only at least her

                        I agree. Today, tomorrow, not everyone can watch. Rather, not only everyone can watch.

                        Quote: Mikhail3
                        Does any of us have the right

                        Do you have the right to tell people where to climb? Navereka - no. But you are trying.
                        And Russia has not only the right to influence the policy of Poland, but even, I would say, the obligation. This is due to three points:
                        1) This is historically the area of ​​our influence (which was recalled by the person who mentioned citizenship).
                        2) Left unattended, Poland immediately begins to intrigue against us and in a difficult time does not miss the opportunity to stick a knife in the back.
                        3) A holy place is never empty. Poland is not capable of being an independent state. If we do not decide there, then our geopolitical opponents come and decide. If you study the prerequisites for Poland's entry into the Russian Empire, you will see how by this we saved its statehood from its civilized neighbors.
                      3. Mikhail3
                        Mikhail3 16 September 2020 10: 42
                        0
                        Well, this already looks like something. I do not indicate where to "climb". That's why you wrote so funny. I point out that we have no right to judge. Lost such, having separated from themselves these lands. To influence is definitely. Neighbors. Judge - no.
                        Because we will run into the same thing that we ran into with the "former Soviet republics" and with the former allies in the Warsaw Pact. That is, the Russians betrayed us and abandoned us. Why on earth are these traitors meddling in our affairs ?! Alas, no one likes traitors, even those in whose interests betrayal was. What the West is happy to show us every day.
                        All states, which included the Poles, had enormous problems and ended badly. Nafig such citizens, nafig! Such is the study of the problems of entry ...
                      4. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 16 September 2020 12: 22
                        +1
                        Quote: Mikhail3
                        Well, this already looks like something. I do not indicate where to "climb". That's why you wrote so funny. I point out that we have no right to judge.

                        Ok, let's turn the phrase over again: do you have the right to judge whom to judge whom?
                        If - yes, then we can Poles.
                        If not, then it's not up to you to judge whether we can be Poles.
                      5. Mikhail3
                        Mikhail3 16 September 2020 14: 09
                        0
                        A real person, a person, is always stricter towards himself than towards others. The Poles, for their little things and their abomination, allow themselves to judge us, although, of course, they do not have such a right. And we, if we are people, and not pathetic trolls, that instead of thinking they are trying to twist verbal turns, we should ask ourselves - do we have the right to court? Alas...
  • Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 15 September 2020 07: 51
    +3
    Quote: Finches
    It is necessary to cover correctly - there are people in Minsk who condemn Putin for preventing them from exchanging jobs at BelAZ factories for jobs in Amsterdam brothels! And this is not so democratic! laughing

    The collective West has achieved what it wanted - in Russia the word "democracy" is becoming a dirty word. And the "liberal" is becoming completely obscene.

    And further.
    ... Lukashenko at the residence of the President of Russia Bocharov Ruchey tried with all his might to show his loyalty, calling Russia "big brother" and noting that what is happening in Belarus is "a lesson to all post-Soviet republics."
    In the 90s we experienced their "democracy" on our own skin in the XNUMXs, Ukraine and the Balts no longer know how to bend over sexually in front of the West. "Proud Georgians" are beginning to understand that they "ran in the wrong direction." Central Asia seethes thin periodically .... And everywhere - the triumph of "democracy", damn it! According to American, of course, concepts.

    Especially "democratically" Tikhanovskaya was appointed president of Belarus, affectionately pushing Lukashenko aside (as it seems to Tikhanovskaya herself - she was promised! ").
    Any agreements concluded with him may be terminated after the change of government in Minsk.
    HA! Let them try to change the government first, and then the agreements are canceled ...
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    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 September 2020 08: 55
      +4
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      The collective West has achieved what it wanted - in Russia the word "democracy" is becoming a dirty word. And the "liberal" is becoming completely obscene.
      These words have become synonymous with "homosexual" (not yet a forbidden word).
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 15 September 2020 09: 22
        +4
        Quote: tihonmarine
        These words have become synonymous with "homosexual" (not yet a forbidden word).

        1. hydrox
          hydrox 15 September 2020 12: 01
          +1
          And why are you posting a picture with this carrion here?
          So that we can remember?
          So these are political corpses, they STICK from them !!!
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 15 September 2020 08: 55
      +8
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      And the "liberal" completely passes into the category of obscene

    4. Terenin
      Terenin 15 September 2020 09: 21
      +7
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      In the 90s we experienced their "democracy" on our own skin in the XNUMXs, Ukraine and the Balts no longer know how to bend over sexually in front of the West. "Proud Georgians" are beginning to understand that they "ran in the wrong direction." Central Asia seethes thin periodically .... And everywhere - the triumph of "democracy", damn it! According to American, of course, concepts.

      Igor, it seems that Lukashenka is asking Russia to join the fight with the West, for Belarus, and, as always, they will take a neutral position with the "good neighbors" Poles, Balts, Ukraine request
      Well, how else to understand when the Seimas of Lithuania, officially !!!, recognized Lukashenka as illegitimate, and in response ... silence belay... Not that he did not send their ambassadors, and did not even recall his own from Lithuania. I still do not understand Lukashenka's position.

      And again, from the father's side it is incomprehensible
      Lukashenko: And believe me, we have always adhered to this line.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 15 September 2020 09: 30
        +7
        Quote: Terenin
        Well, how else to understand when the Seim of Lithuania, officially !!!, recognized Lukashenka as illegitimate, and in response ... silence is not that it did not expel their ambassadors, but did not even recall its own from Lithuania.

        For me - it's a "casus belli". At least - a COMPLETE rupture of diplomatic relations!

        Come on ... What is there to talk about the Old Man. I understand my own once. Best case scenario. We are being pissed on our heads, and the Foreign Ministry "expresses concern." For me, it’s not Lavrov but Shoigu who should express “concern”. Under the Soviet Union, the Yankees knew that our zhahnut would not rust - and they didn’t go out into the open. And so that someone else dares to raise his tail ... am And now all the scoundrels know that we will only "express concern", so they are putting on us from under the tail. Lived, damn it! Lithuania is the center of European politics ... belay
      2. DrEng527
        DrEng527 15 September 2020 09: 41
        +1
        Quote: Terenin
        and themselves, as always, will take a neutral position with the "good neighbors" Poles, Balts, Ukraine

        yesterday it was clearly seen and accentuated by Soloviev ... request
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 September 2020 09: 43
        0
        Quote: Terenin
        Well, how else to understand when the Seimas of Lithuania, officially !!!, recognized Lukashenka as illegitimate, and in response ... silence

        Something doesn’t look like a dad, before he would have tore them up "like Tuzik a hot-water bottle", and then there’s silence, and this is not only an insult to Lukashenka from Lithuania, but to the whole of Belarus.
      4. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 15 September 2020 10: 17
        0
        What's not clear? Luca has always put economics above all else. It's just that his economy is "give us more and for free, and we'll thank you ... Then ... Maybe ..."
        The jackal is the jackal. Although those who are now "in opposition" in Belarus, those are just empty spaces. Not even talking heads. Shirmochki from gauze.
      5. hydrox
        hydrox 15 September 2020 12: 05
        +2
        They babysit a lot with this Luka :: a stick must be taken, and from time to time we must admonish him :: a couple of times in the head for each of the vectors of "Lukashka's multi-vector" - then he will begin to come to his senses and his desire to cuddle with Pompey will disappear ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 15 September 2020 08: 03
    +6
    Quote: Finches
    rallies of the Belarusian opposition with a similar slogan for Tikhonovskaya

    But this is not obvious ... Against the overdue (as they believe / have convinced them) bam! For everything good, against everything bad (the slogan is the most stupid, many have already been brought down to the monastery)!
    People made a drive !!! And then there will be sho, they thought, although they had already been specifically explained to them long ago, and there are enough examples nearby ...
    A senseless drive, because in fact it does not carry anything creative in itself, but there is plenty of destructive.
    However, they showed the old man that it was time for him and his policies, methods to resign ... or rather, a logical conclusion was required, a transition to a more positive agenda.
    1. Finches
      Finches 15 September 2020 08: 06
      +5
      To be objective, you need to clearly know who is "for" and who is "against" 5%, even 25% of the raging people, this is not all the people!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 15 September 2020 08: 13
        +4
        Yes, we need numbers, a true calculation ..... but the situation itself is already an indicator !!! before this was NOT AT ALL!
        1. Finches
          Finches 15 September 2020 08: 29
          -2
          They planted some money. Here it is!
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 15 September 2020 08: 48
            -1
            Quote: Finches
            They planted some money. Here it is!

            Here opinions can be different ...
            Of course there are faces that babosiks work out, but there are other different ones ... who separated them, who counted them?
            All the same, decisive but careful actions are required! it's just that their time has come, as it was, it won't work.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 September 2020 09: 52
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          before this was NOT AT ALL!

          I haven't been to Belarus, but it has already happened twice, if I'm not mistaken.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 September 2020 09: 00
      -2
      Quote: rocket757
      However, they showed the old man that it was time for him and his policies, methods to resign ... or rather, a logical conclusion was required, a transition to a more positive agenda.

      It's time for dad to declare quarantine in connection with Covid-19. "More than two do not gather, do not come closer than two, walked a hundred meters away, fine, cop," Kalabush ".
      1. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 15 September 2020 09: 27
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: rocket757
        However, they showed the old man that it was time for him and his policies, methods to resign ... or rather, a logical conclusion was required, a transition to a more positive agenda.

        It's time for dad to declare quarantine in connection with Covid-19. "More than two do not gather, do not come closer than two, walked a hundred meters away, fine, cop," Kalabush ".

        For quarantine, you have to pay grandmother to the population
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 15 September 2020 10: 11
        -2
        But father is not worth "teasing the geese" if he is not going to / can put them all on pate!
        In general, boom to see. Serious actions should have been started yesterday!
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 15 September 2020 12: 11
      0
      Because until now there was no one who could ZORKO track "Lukashka's politics", and knock on the village head in time that the fourth dimension FLOWS without stopping, and he stands in front of a dug overhead crossing, and let VVP think, but at least he it is clear that the time SHOULD CHECK, and the stragglers are lost forever ...
  • Pravodel
    Pravodel 15 September 2020 08: 14
    0
    there are people who condemn Putin for preventing them from exchanging jobs at BelAZ factories for jobs in Amsterdam brothels

    Add to this: on the plantations of strawberries or growing apples in Poland ... Their Poles and hired Balts all fled abroad, the bastards do not want to hunch up on the gentry, so Belarusians need to be received as free labor. Become Panami again and force them to plow on the plantations for a stew and a torn crust of bread ...
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 15 September 2020 08: 20
    +1
    Quote: Finches
    exchange jobs at BelAZ factories for jobs in Amsterdam brothels!

    ..
    Bye, MTZ !,
    Goodbye, BelAZ!
    And Hello, Polish UNITAZ!
    1. BABAY22
      BABAY22 15 September 2020 09: 26
      +7
      Look who is protesting there, they did not hold anything heavier than a smartphone in their hands. For them, these factories are a scoop, and the workers are cotton wool, all this must be urgently abandoned and, apparently, live in the iPhone space.
      Well, young people, what can you take from them. I hope the Old Man will explain to the unreasonable, and their curators that they are seriously muddying the waters will drive them under the plinth. And for Father himself, this will be a good lesson.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 15 September 2020 10: 27
        -2
        Quote: BABAY22
        Look who is protesting there, they didn't hold anything heavier than a smartphone in their hands.

        Especially disgusting are the wildly screeching and squealing so-called. "women's" marches of unfinished underdeveloped youngsters, for whom it has become a fashionable "movement" and "party".

        What an abomination ... negative
  • Free wind
    Free wind 15 September 2020 10: 07
    -1
    Who is Sasha Gray? A deputy from a united Russia?
  • Nevolnik
    Nevolnik 15 September 2020 10: 49
    -1
    Quote: Finches
    It is necessary to cover correctly - there are people in Minsk who condemn Putin for preventing them from exchanging jobs at BelAZ factories for jobs in Amsterdam brothels! And this is not so democratic

    To the point it is said how the slogan in Belarus still has a good
    Down with MAZ
    Down with BelAZ
    And hello Polish toilet.
    In short, this is achieved by the opposition so-called hi
  • siberalt
    siberalt 15 September 2020 07: 49
    +2
    "This slate will never be able to guess what I'm going to walk in."
    V. Vysotsky.
    Also in the global chess game. Nobody knows where tomorrow will be the same Poland or Belarus.
    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 15 September 2020 09: 31
      0
      Quote: siberalt
      Nobody knows where the same Poland will be tomorrow

      Back in London?
  • Vend
    Vend 15 September 2020 10: 34
    0
    Polish press: "Putin is condemned in Minsk"
    Of course, those inadequate people who run around the streets of Minsk with red and white flags are condemned, very strongly condemned. Only on their condemnation spit from the high bell tower laughing
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 15 September 2020 07: 35
    0
    It will be a lot of fun to see the Polish Clintonoids when Trump wins the election. It will be a show. The Polish elite will hiss from London like a government in exile ...
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 15 September 2020 08: 26
      +2
      You don't have to worry about them. Their system will digest any president.
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 15 September 2020 08: 35
        0
        Thinking superficially, colleague ... Poland has been deprived of EU injections since 21, and the labor market in the EU and the market for goods will be closed. Poles guest workers will return home and start asking questions.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 15 September 2020 08: 39
          0
          Poland is a European China with real production. And don't forget about the finances from the USA and the fact that Poland is now at the forefront with us. The infrastructure will be transferred from Germany.
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 15 September 2020 09: 44
            +3
            Quote: Zaurbek
            Poland - European China

            Eurasian Honolulu.
            China is a huge (and cheap) human resource, for which the main thing is to create jobs and find markets for its products. If it works out, economic growth is ensured. Geopolitical independence helps the Chinese (in contrast to the same Indians) achieve this goal.
            Poland has no trace of that resource (they even wait for their neighboring neighbors for harvesting, worrying that without them no one will clean the fields - the gentlemen themselves will not get their hands dirty, that is, the servants), or geopolitical independence.
            The comparison is not correct.
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 15 September 2020 11: 30
              -3
              Compare population and GDP ....
              1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                Boris ⁣ Shaver 15 September 2020 21: 40
                +2
                Quote: Zaurbek
                Compare Population and GDP

                Are you talking about GDP per capita?
                China 71st, Poland 58th (Russia 64th).

                If the GDP as a whole, then there are simply incomparable figures and it is stupid to compare them. As well as the population size.

                And what does this all have to say? That Poland is like China? But it turns out that it is even less similar than, for example, Russia.
          2. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 15 September 2020 10: 09
            +1
            Well, the EU market for Poland will be closed ... And the elite of Poland is therefore bound for the market of Ukraine and Belarus, this is in short.
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 15 September 2020 11: 27
              0
              Why? Poland in the EU.
              1. hydrox
                hydrox 15 September 2020 12: 22
                +1
                Billions of payments to Poland as a "young EU" sheep end in December, then - only their own grub, although the treasury, as predicted, is EMPTY, there is no competitive product, there is no mechanical engineering with shipbuilding either - no bears, no paws - what will they suck?
                1. Zaurbek
                  Zaurbek 15 September 2020 15: 45
                  -1
                  Well, if you were given money, you didn’t take it to an offshore company, but you built a production ... and agricultural ..., then it will all work and make a profit. Give them loans all the time, or what ?! Plus, the US Department of Defense spending on bases and infrastructure will be added.
                  1. hydrox
                    hydrox 16 September 2020 11: 06
                    +1
                    The Poles will pay for the infrastructure for the accommodation of the Yankees (and they themselves offered it !!!) - it is surprising that you do not know that the Poles have already abandoned the deployment of a tank division and agreed to a tactical group only because they could not find it in their budget $ 3 billion for the maintenance of the US division.
                    As for organizing agriculture as a locomotive of the economy, only the last scoundrel liber can consider this option acceptable for Russia - this year is an accident that our farmers are so lucky (we expected a 40-50 percent crop failure relative to last year (as in Ukraine oilseeds ALL burned!)).
                    And if there was a poor harvest, then our poultry and pork would collapse, and our population would suffer the most, since deliveries to China must be carried out in the first place, and how much more expensive the products of the domestic market are - nobody in Prospect is interested.
                    1. Zaurbek
                      Zaurbek 16 September 2020 11: 11
                      -1
                      The concept of "poor harvest" is now not equal to "Collapse" there is modern storage, there are harvest years, there is a carry-over. And agricultural despite the "help" is still growing. And apples, and grains and meat and milk ...
                      1. hydrox
                        hydrox 16 September 2020 12: 39
                        +1
                        Tell the villagers about this, and I doubt that you will not blush from what they tell you.
                        By the way, the Association of Russian Farmers has already warned about the increase in prices for potatoes by almost 2 times.
                        Would you agree to be the Minister of Agriculture under these conditions? laughing
                2. Free wind
                  Free wind 15 September 2020 20: 50
                  0
                  Before saying that Poland's treasury is empty, it's worth looking at what kind of industry it has. We have signed contracts for weapons worth $ 6 billion, they write that this is a record amount. Poland has contracts worth $ 21 billion for 12 years to supply furniture for export.
                  1. hydrox
                    hydrox 16 September 2020 11: 09
                    +1
                    If the EU goes to collapse, then the Poles will be able to wipe themselves with their furniture contracts, especially since Russia has imposed sanctions on them and our market is closed for psek ...
                    1. Free wind
                      Free wind 16 September 2020 11: 40
                      0
                      They don't come to us. and do not worry about it.
                      1. hydrox
                        hydrox 16 September 2020 12: 53
                        +1
                        They do not worry at all, only they have already broken their heads - how to fill the land from under 25% of the uprooted gardens - the products of Polish (Bulgarian, Romanian, Ukrainian ...) agricultural producers are not needed by anyone in the EU, even get in the loop, but you say that they do not need the Russian market. laughing
                        It is Russia that laughs, and the civilians are crying: I would love to eat Svalya, but I do not do it on principle, because I know that Svalya comes to us through Belarusian smuggling channels.
                        Tell me, how is Ukraine going to plug the giant hole that will form in NG in the EU sunflower oil market, which it almost monopolized?
                        Only after having lost the market, it usually becomes impossible to return it, but Russia is happy to chop off a piece of it - a holy place ... laughing
                        Of course, Russia will prohibit sowing seeds for export in such quantities, but you can tickle the earth for a year.
                      2. Free wind
                        Free wind 16 September 2020 13: 16
                        0
                        I know what a dump is, Ukraine has reduced sunflower seeds by 10 percent, but increased the export of sunflower oil by 20 percent. Well, the Poles have long entered the world market of Calvados, well, they make money naturally, my friend's toilets.
                      3. hydrox
                        hydrox 16 September 2020 13: 38
                        0
                        Oh yes, global mechanical engineering without Calvados, well, in any way, (like tanks without diesel fuel) laughing
                        And if you don’t know Svali, then what is the point for you to run into an agricultural discussion?
          3. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 15 September 2020 13: 55
            -1
            From the fact that the EU is waiting for the collapse, and jobs in Germany, France themselves need.
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 16 September 2020 13: 01
              +1
              You shouldn't argue with him, I'm just ashamed to say what he lacks for a successful discussion lol
              1. Tank jacket
                Tank jacket 16 September 2020 13: 33
                +1
                hi Yes, I understand yes
    2. Nevolnik
      Nevolnik 15 September 2020 10: 53
      +1
      Quote: Tank jacket
      Thinking superficially, colleague ... Poland has been deprived of EU injections since 21, and the labor market in the EU and the market for goods will be closed. Poles guest workers will return home and start asking questions.

      But you are right Ruslan, and even if Old Man blocks the border and the flow of goods sanctioned to Russia .. It will not be easy, as in the song "Apples in the Snow ..", but something worse.
  • Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 15 September 2020 09: 29
    +2
    Quote: Tank jacket
    It will be a lot of fun to see the Polish Clintonoids when Trump wins the election. It will be a show. The Polish elite will hiss from London like a government in exile ...

    It has already been
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 16 September 2020 13: 35
      0
      And so it will happen again ...
  • Alexander X
    Alexander X 15 September 2020 07: 38
    +4
    To retell on the pages of VO what nonsense they write in the tabloid newspapers of enemies, I consider it bad form.
  • Alexey Sommer
    Alexey Sommer 15 September 2020 07: 39
    -9
    Zeroed runs country by country.
    The first Ukraine, then Armenia, Kazakhstan switched to the Latin alphabet, Azerbaijan, now Belarus is next in line.
    He is not a patriot, but rather a traitor.
    1. Victorio
      Victorio 15 September 2020 07: 55
      -3
      Quote: Alexey Sommer
      Zeroed runs country by country.
      The first Ukraine, then Armenia, Kazakhstan switched to the Latin alphabet, Azerbaijan, now Belarus is next in line.
      He is not a patriot, but rather a traitor.

      ===
      and not a patriot, but rather a spiteful critic
      1. Alexey Sommer
        Alexey Sommer 15 September 2020 07: 56
        +1
        Quote: Victorio
        Yes, you are not a patriot, but rather a spiteful critic

        Sorry I did not understand..
        Did you mean you?
        And in essence, what do you disagree with?
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 15 September 2020 08: 21
          -4
          Quote: Alexey Sommer
          Sorry I did not understand..
          You wanted to say You?
          And in essence with what do not agree?

          ===
          you are exactly. and yes - I do not agree, for objectivity, list then the positive / positive results of Putin's activities.
          1. Alexey Sommer
            Alexey Sommer 15 September 2020 08: 23
            +1
            Quote: Victorio
            already positive / positive results of Putin's activities.

            Yes. I have to admit they are.
            Emotions are simply overwhelming. Russia under Putin has become richer ...
            But this is growth from zero, from African poverty ..
            Do you understand?
      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 15 September 2020 08: 07
        +5
        Our leadership should be given awards for successful interaction with the regimes in the CIS countries: Armenia, Ukraine, Belarus .... moreover, if you look at whose expense everything happened there and how much did it cost the Russian Federation ?! Then there two or three times it was possible to simply change the leadership.
        Questions, personally I have:
        1. Where did the money go?
        2. Who led the policy with these - the closest countries to the Russian Federation?
        3. What did the ambassadors do there, you don't have to ask.
        1. Alexey Sommer
          Alexey Sommer 15 September 2020 08: 12
          +2
          Zaur, shake your hand!
    2. Finches
      Finches 15 September 2020 08: 03
      -6
      Are you scribbling from Sharit, poor fellow? laughing
      1. Alexey Sommer
        Alexey Sommer 15 September 2020 08: 04
        +3
        Quote: Finches
        Are you scribbling from Sharit, poor fellow?

        What language do you speak today?) I am writing from Kurgan, but where are you from, comrade toy marshal?
        You only know how to write slogans.
        You will not have smart thoughts. )
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 15 September 2020 08: 16
          +6
          The policy with the CIS countries, taking into account our infusions into them, is a FULL FAILURE at all levels. We still have one language.
          1. Alexey Sommer
            Alexey Sommer 15 September 2020 08: 21
            +1
            Quote: Zaurbek
            The policy with the CIS countries, taking into account our infusions into them, is a FULL FAILURE at all levels. We still have one language.

            In principle, I agree. But you can give different qualifications to this policy, it is carried out either by fools or traitors ..
            But there is a difference.
            In the first case, it's high time to shoot these figures ..
            And who put them? ..
            In the second case, one must judge.
            And who are the judges? ..)
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 15 September 2020 08: 24
              +2
              This is yes .... as an excuse, one can only write down the fact that within the Russian Federation itself there was confusion and vacillation quite strong. And without an internal order, dealing with other countries cannot be productive. But that's not an argument. We paid the money.
          2. Rubi0
            Rubi0 15 September 2020 10: 09
            0
            Gospad, what does politics and language have to do with it, if you pay for the harvest as in Poland, you turn even the most beaten off Ukrainians will come to you and will lick their feet.
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 15 September 2020 11: 31
              0
              This is how they work here ...
        2. Finches
          Finches 15 September 2020 08: 22
          0
          Kurginyanin, from your superintelligent commentary, an anecdote was recalled:

          "Once upon a time there was a certain janitor - a most colorful person with a luxurious, thick beard. And so he looked like Karl Marx with this beard, that people came to him from all over the capital to admire. This disgrace has reached the knowledge of the competent authorities. Comrades in civilian clothes came to him and said: "You, this ... would shave off, this is the very ..."
          The janitor, gravely stroking the subject of the conflict, replied: "Well, let's say, I'll shave off my beard. But what to do with my cleverness?"


          I understand that you want to chop "+" on the criticism of the GDP, since I caught this conjuncture in the VO, in order to become a toy marshal myself, as quickly as possible, but I will not tell anyone about this, just scribble! laughing
          1. Alexey Sommer
            Alexey Sommer 15 September 2020 08: 27
            +4
            Quote: Finches
            I understand that you want "+"

            Eugene)) You won’t believe in the morning I don’t know where to put the pluses laughing somewhere -5000
            A + I don't need me at 15, they banned me here, I had a labor marshal.
            I am sorry for Zhen.
            ps Ida is not Kurginyan, but Kurganets ..
            No need to thank.
            1. Finches
              Finches 15 September 2020 08: 37
              0
              Thank you for the amendment, I never really knew how the residents of Kurgan are called correctly - for this from me + and the fact that it is a shame for the power, too, but about VVP, it's in vain. Not a saint, of course, there are mistakes, but on the whole he is clearly oppressing his line, and oppression is also in the interests of Russia, and this is worthy of respect!
              1. Alexey Sommer
                Alexey Sommer 15 September 2020 08: 44
                -1
                Quote: Finches
                Not sacred, of course, there are a lot of mistakes, but in general he clearly bends his line

                Yes, this is understandable, as without errors.
                But as you rightly said above
                Quote: Finches
                from your superintelligent commentary

                As a genius, it is difficult to face these mistakes calmly.
                Do you understand? He also does not work there as a plumber.
                "It's hard to be God." (C)
                1. Finches
                  Finches 15 September 2020 09: 14
                  0
                  There is a feeling that it is easier to be God than to lead Russia - there is less responsibility, and you do not expect unpredictability from believers [subjects] at all! laughing
                  1. Alexey Sommer
                    Alexey Sommer 15 September 2020 09: 21
                    +1
                    I think the main thing is not to treat your citizens as subjects.
                    Do you understand? Compatriots ... compatriots ...
                    It seems to me more suitable.
                    What do you think?
                    1. Finches
                      Finches 15 September 2020 09: 27
                      +1
                      Today it is so! A Ukrainian complains to me here that there are continuous bans - the Russian language is being squeezed out, social networks are prohibited, "Masha and the Bear" is banned on television, the military tax is constantly pinched off from a not very large salary by duress, God forbid Bandera be scolded, they may also have a hut burn ... but they have democracy, and we have terrible authoritarianism! Although the same Putin on the same Internet, only the lazy does not criticize and is not afraid that the pativan will come for him at night! laughing
                      Dislocation of consciousness! So today we are all compatriots in fact!
                      1. Alexey Sommer
                        Alexey Sommer 15 September 2020 09: 40
                        +4
                        Of course you're right. This is no irony. There is freedom in Russia.
                        Even in the USSR there was actually more of it than in the USA today.
                        But why is there a feeling that we are losing?
                        ps I think this is because the country is being plundered.
          2. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 15 September 2020 09: 33
            +1
            Quote: Finches
            Kurginyanin, from your superintelligent commentary, an anecdote was recalled:

            "Once upon a time there was a certain janitor - a most colorful person with a luxurious, thick beard. And so he looked like Karl Marx with this beard, that people came to him from all over the capital to admire. This disgrace has reached the knowledge of the competent authorities. Comrades in civilian clothes came to him and said: "You, this ... would shave off, this is the very ..."
            The janitor, gravely stroking the subject of the conflict, replied: "Well, let's say, I'll shave off my beard. But what to do with my cleverness?"


            I understand that you want to chop "+" on the criticism of the GDP, since I caught this conjuncture in the VO, in order to become a toy marshal myself, as quickly as possible, but I will not tell anyone about this, just scribble! laughing

            Why "+" on in? MB I don't know what? MB can they be converted into rubles?
            1. Finches
              Finches 15 September 2020 09: 34
              +1
              Local Vanity Fair! laughing
    3. sheridans
      sheridans 15 September 2020 09: 04
      0
      What is your personal interest? Formulate your patriotism more precisely, as it were.
      1. Alexey Sommer
        Alexey Sommer 15 September 2020 09: 09
        0
        Answered in PM.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 15 September 2020 07: 39
    -1
    Lyakhi, say thank you that Putin has such a character, otherwise you would not be discussing him, but digging graves.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 15 September 2020 07: 54
      +2
      To get to Lyakhov, you need just a little ..... to put things in order in the two border countries. In the meantime, the influence of Poland in them is very strong. In Ukraine it is dominant ... and in Belarus it is very large.
      1. Alexey Sommer
        Alexey Sommer 15 September 2020 07: 59
        0
        Quote: Zaurbek
        To get to Lyakhov, you need just a little ... put things in order in the two border countries

        Great answer! good
      2. tatra
        tatra 15 September 2020 08: 45
        -6
        With their maniacal anti-Sovietism, because of which the Russian enemies of the Communists with their Yeltsin-Putin power rush to defend the external and internal enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people, including the White Poles, to justify the crimes of those, the enemies of the Communists have made the Poles "wipe their feet" on Russia:.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 15 September 2020 07: 51
    +5
    I'm more interested in what the consequences of the negotiations are. And what did they give $ 1,5 billion for?
    1. sheridans
      sheridans 15 September 2020 09: 07
      -1
      Yesterday I read it on the internet. 1 billion debt restructuring (actually postponement of payment), 0,3 billion to pay off debt for energy resources, but 0,2 billion is incomprehensible.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 15 September 2020 09: 15
        0
        The question is - what did the Old Man promise to do this ?!
        1. tandem
          tandem 15 September 2020 17: 47
          0
          Belarusian proverb - abyatsanka - tsatsanka, and joy to fool.
      2. tandem
        tandem 15 September 2020 17: 48
        0
        0,2 yards per cop
    2. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 15 September 2020 10: 08
      0
      Quote: Zaurbek
      I'm more interested in what the consequences of the negotiations are. And what did they give $ 1,5 billion for?

      Interestingly, for 26 years this question did not interest you, but today you require an answer ...
      Experiments, experiments, for implementation then in your country.
    3. tandem
      tandem 15 September 2020 17: 46
      0
      oil in exchange for food, money in exchange for kisses
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 15 September 2020 07: 52
    +2
    The large edition Rzeczpospolita publishes material, which the author called "Putin is condemned in Minsk"
    ... Poles, they know better from their side the dregs ... laughing
  • Victorio
    Victorio 15 September 2020 07: 54
    0
    Alexander Grigorievich needs to finish the last term with a refomator, for the traps have seized tightly. and they can also throw a new carrot - visa-free.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 15 September 2020 08: 03
      +3
      Quote: Victorio
      the traps grabbed tightly. and they can also throw a new carrot - visa-free.

      They can announce, but .... the coronavirus! And so they always, spreading their hands, will say: "Yes, yes, but not now."
      1. Victorio
        Victorio 15 September 2020 08: 06
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: Victorio
        the traps grabbed tightly. and they can also throw a new carrot - visa-free.

        They can announce, but .... the coronavirus! And so they always, spreading their hands, will say: "Yes, yes, but not now."

        ===
        this is so, but the very fact of some strata of society can push for action. or trump this to recruit new adepts.
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 15 September 2020 08: 43
        +2
        Visa-free traders throw up as an incentive and visa-free travel is not a tourist, but a worker. The Belarusians already roamed the world without any visa-free. And you need to know the language, your specialty and then you don't need any visa-free work. Work wherever you want. hi
  • 1536
    1536 15 September 2020 07: 57
    +1
    Was it necessary to negotiate with the Poles about Belarusian affairs? Let the Poles first erect King Sigismund (I don’t know which one) to the throne in Warsaw, and then perhaps someone will come to them from Moscow.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 15 September 2020 08: 20
    0
    For 4 and a half hours alone, They discussed a lot, with time they may tell. Everything will be fine. Lukashenka did not withdraw himself, the power block is on his side. I wonder how the villagers there react to the city protestors. There is no time for protests, they work on the ground, time for rest in the villages has not yet come! hi
    1. tandem
      tandem 15 September 2020 17: 50
      0
      the villagers for the most part curse the onion
  • dgonni
    dgonni 15 September 2020 08: 41
    0
    Already one president was given a loan on the wave of protests. He is now sitting in Rostov. But father is in a very similar situation. Deja vu, as it were.
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 15 September 2020 09: 33
      +2
      Quote: dgonni
      Already one president was given a loan on the wave of protests. He is now sitting in Rostov. But father is in a very similar situation. Deja vu, as it were.

      Father's protests are already crap
  • north 2
    north 2 15 September 2020 08: 54
    +1
    unfortunately, it must be admitted that in Belarus he grew up by a generation that did not live under the USSR
    and neither saw nor felt a common state with Russia. By the way, how did such a generation grow up and
    in Russia, in relation to Belarus. And what did this Lukashenka and his surrounding elite do to bring into the life of the younger generation, like the laws of metaphysics, the truth that Belarusians are one of many ethnic groups, one of the many peoples of Russia, who, according to this the laws of metaphysics lived and must
    live in one common state, which is called Russia? And that the traitors of Russia divided both the territory of Russia and these two ethnic groups. And Lukashenka during this time crawled on
    two chairs and put Russia in such a position that if Russia does not agree that Belarus
    sucks the fat udder of Russia for free, then Belarus will change to another chair and will suck
    the organ that the West will give her. And the elite at that time for the younger generation of Belarusians already wrote
    history textbooks edited in Poland and Lithuania have already sowed weeds on the non-existence of Russian
    Mira (from here and not the recognition of the Russian Crimea by Belarus), has already traveled on Schengen visas
    to Poland and Lithuania, and Lukashenka didn't care who this elite meets in Poland and Lithuania, in the nests of hatred for Russia. And as the time came, it was from Poland and Lithuania that they began to carry out
    and lead a coup d'etat in Belarus. But the most disgusting and dangerous for Russia and for the Russian world is that even now Lukashenko is not pushing the second chair far away, he thinks that maybe everything will settle down and again it will be possible to cunningly sitting on two chairs in Belarus to suck the fat udder of Russia and blackmail Russia, that if anything, then he can transfer to the second chair.
    1. tandem
      tandem 15 September 2020 17: 55
      0
      it is not recognized in the West. Too odious.
      And the udder of the Russian Federation has not gone anywhere. Here, a yard and a half thrown, now we'll live!
  • APASUS
    APASUS 15 September 2020 09: 07
    +1
    Any agreements concluded with him may be terminated after a change of government in Minsk.

    It will be interesting to see if the loan will be immediately refused?
    ... Putin promised to provide Minsk with a considerable loan - $ 1,5 billion.
  • Andrew 40
    Andrew 40 15 September 2020 09: 24
    +1
    there are people in Minsk who condemn Putin for preventing them from exchanging jobs at BelAZ factories for jobs in Amsterdam brothels!
    He is violet to the workers from BelAZ. As with most workers in their country. Apart from the "pipe" and his pocket, nothing bothers him.
  • Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Boris ⁣ Shaver 15 September 2020 09: 26
    +3
    Putin promised to provide Minsk with a considerable loan - $ 1,5 billion. Lukashenka declared the need for close economic integration.

    Lukashenka is like a golden antelope, only he carves gold not with his hooves, but with his tongue.
    Once again, to sell the abstract: "it is necessary to integrate more closely" for a lot of money - you're not stealing buns from the table.
    1. tandem
      tandem 15 September 2020 17: 57
      0
      he is smart! intelligent man
  • Campanella
    Campanella 15 September 2020 09: 52
    0
    How, however, foreign "partners" are sausage!
    Russia has nowhere to retreat, so the limited states of the states of America will have to wash up.
  • Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 15 September 2020 10: 29
    0
    Any agreements concluded with him may be terminated after a change of government in Minsk.

    They are insured. They are afraid of Belarus joining Russia.
  • iouris
    iouris 15 September 2020 11: 20
    0
    "In Minsk" they must show who they are condemning and, for a start, recall the ambassadors from Warsaw, Vilnius and Prague. Or terminate relations with Moscow. Otherwise, everything is so difficult ... Ordinary people do not understand who this "Minsk" is?
  • Country Councils
    Country Councils 15 September 2020 11: 22
    +1
    "Collective West" under the leadership of the hegemon https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK0nqarW0AAPaWQ.jpg actively helps Putin to return Lukashenka to his homeland https://mmanificarum.blogspot.com/2020/09/blog-post_11.html
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 15 September 2020 12: 29
    -2
    The Polish press howls, and the caravan of the Russia-Belarus Union State is on its way.
  • Lew
    Lew 15 September 2020 12: 48
    -1
    there are those who speak, and there are those who do ...
  • Ivan Tixiy
    Ivan Tixiy 15 September 2020 12: 48
    0
    What can the Poles say, who, in general, beat up this whole protest? And there are always dissatisfied people and will be so people, the only question is the number of dissatisfied people. The Belarusian handful of dissatisfied people are very loud and loud, and it seems that there are a lot of them ... You just need to pick this abscess and clear it out
    1. tandem
      tandem 15 September 2020 17: 58
      0
      well, yes, most of the population. Good bunch
      1. Ivan Tixiy
        Ivan Tixiy 15 September 2020 18: 58
        0
        Did you count? Or do you think together with the Polish press? In addition to the "urban scum", there are also other people who are not "TV-headed", and are capable of thinking. Lukashenka is not ideal, but the pit where they want to push Belarus is very deep. However, in Ukraine there are enough Euro-like idiots even now, after so many years of degradation. Therefore, the infectiousness of this muck is not surprising. Belarusians are mad about fat
        1. tandem
          tandem 16 September 2020 08: 11
          0
          RB is one of the poorest countries in Europe. According to unofficial data, about 400-500 thousand people worked outside the country last year. This is, apparently, from a lot of wealth.
          Urban scum, as you say, are citizens of the country, and they are entitled to their point of view.
          An interesting statement about TV-heads. Very interesting. Considering that there is no independent TV in Belarus in principle.
          1. strannik1985
            strannik1985 16 September 2020 08: 24
            -1
            And therefore the president of the Republic of Belarus should be appointed by the main democrat from the White House good
            1. tandem
              tandem 16 September 2020 08: 28
              0
              That the United States, that the Russian Federation - a forest. There must be fair elections. And that's it
              In the meantime, the Russian leadership is helping to crush the people of Belarus
              1. strannik1985
                strannik1985 16 September 2020 08: 50
                -1
                They were, the elections in which Lukashenka won. However, the main democrat does not like this, so the elections are not correct wink
          2. Ivan Tixiy
            Ivan Tixiy 16 September 2020 10: 27
            0
            You have never seen the poorest countries in Europe, I recommend Ukraine. However, the flag is in your hands and an electric train for a meeting. We dreamed the same on MayDown about Euro panties with circles. Belarus has experience of historical state formation. As the Belarusian historian said, “we are the only nation that drank away our state, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania”. Who drank so the same Poles, in addition to a mixture of Eastsee Germans and Samogitians, stole the name ..... History goes in a circle.
            The whole of Europe is essentially a US colony, in the EU, or rather around the EU of Belarus, to shine the role of a colony of colonies, the role of a cordon sanitaire, the role of a battlefield. Remember the Curzon Line? Look at Ukraine. Banned in Europe to sell pelengast, because of the chemistry, where they sold - in Ukraine. Danish eggs and potatoes are the same story .... Now Belarus has a choice either to negotiate with Russia or nobody will ask you, the US ambassador and the EU ambassador will be in charge.
            1. tandem
              tandem 16 September 2020 20: 41
              0
              Once in school I was advised to be equal to the best, not the worst. And Ukraine is a tse zhakh. Bring her to this state! It's incredible. The obvious is the incredible
              1. Ivan Tixiy
                Ivan Tixiy 17 September 2020 09: 21
                0
                It's simple. The elite or those who are considered the elite were bought on the vine, then they are gradually replaced by "servants of soros". Everything else is done by their hands, the refusal to cooperate with Russia (refusal of sales markets) as a result, the industry collapsed like a drunk in a puddle. A tricky twist with an association with the EU, Ukraine is not a member of the EU, it does not enjoy its rights, but the EU disposes on its territory as at home. On the border with Russia, it is a poor country with a partially hostile population. The same awaits Belarus
                1. tandem
                  tandem 18 September 2020 00: 33
                  0
                  about RB - no. This is without us
                  1. Ivan Tixiy
                    Ivan Tixiy 18 September 2020 08: 02
                    0
                    I am only for the fact that this trouble would bypass Belarus, but the flywheel is running and there are many who wish. How is it - they do not know what they are doing
      2. strannik1985
        strannik1985 16 September 2020 08: 26
        -1
        Even according to the estimates of the opposition, about a million people took part in the rallies, 9,4 million live in the Republic of Belarus. Has a million become most of the nine million long ago? request
        1. tandem
          tandem 16 September 2020 08: 30
          0
          these are those who participated, and most remained at home.
          If for Luka 80% then where are they? Why are people forced to go to rallies for him?
          1. strannik1985
            strannik1985 16 September 2020 08: 49
            -1
            Well, yes, they are sitting at home, and you absolutely know for sure that you voted against laughing
            What for? There is a state to pacify the protesters; in fact, the rallies for Lukashenka began as a response.
  • Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 15 September 2020 12: 54
    +1
    Polish press? Is her opinion interesting to anyone other than this press itself?
  • Ervin
    Ervin 15 September 2020 23: 21
    -3
    Over the past 20 years, Putin has supported Saddam Hussein, Hosni Mubarak, Gaddafi, Viktor Yanukovych, Assad, Maduro, Lukashenko.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 16 September 2020 10: 50
    0
    "After the change of power ..." (c) You first change, then "dissolve". The main "replacements" are already in "exile", and the locals will be given a chance to come to their senses and admit mistakes.