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The Black Sea Fleet has completed an experiment to create a female crew of a patrol boat

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On the Black Sea navy an experiment to create the first female crew of a patrol boat was completed. According to the press service of the fleet, the results of the experiment were recognized as successful.


The command of the Black Sea Fleet summed up the results of the experiment to create the first all-female crew of the Raptor patrol boat, and the findings were sent to the Main Command of the Navy, where they should make a decision on the use of female crews in the Russian fleet.

The Black Sea Fleet completed and recognized as a successful experiment to create a female crew on a patrol boat. (...) The results of the experiment were prepared and sent to the Main Command of the Russian Navy for further decision

- said in a statement.

As specified, during the experiment, the boat's crew, consisting of three female military personnel, took courses of intensive combined-arms training, and also trained as a boat commander, an electrician-electrician and a steering-signalman. Upon completion of the internship, they successfully passed the tests for admission to independent control of the boat and the performance of official duties.

The formation of the first female crew of the Raptor patrol boat was announced as an experiment in early March 2020, and the decision was made by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. The crew underwent training at the St. Petersburg Joint Training Center, after which they arrived at the Black Sea Fleet, where they began to serve.
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  1. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 14 September 2020 09: 56 New
    +9
    So that is why recently the film "Take care, women!" Has begun to be shown on different channels .... It's time to shoot a remake, with the same name, but without an exclamation mark, but better a series of 200 series ..
    1. smart ass
      smart ass 14 September 2020 10: 39 New
      +5
      I want a captain on this ship !!! And around the world! The captain is a man?
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 14 September 2020 10: 56 New
        +4
        They did not read the article carefully. Only Yoongi's position remains vacant :)
        1. svp67
          svp67 14 September 2020 12: 39 New
          +8
          Quote: alexmach
          Only the position remained vacant

          coca ...
      2. Per se.
        Per se. 14 September 2020 11: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: Clever man
        I want a captain on this ship!
        The plot was already there.
        But, save and save with such a crew to be the captain.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 14 September 2020 13: 34 New
          15
          The plot was already there.

      3. Hagen
        Hagen 14 September 2020 12: 42 New
        +2
        Want three critical weeks a month? You will not reach the Bosphorus alive and in good health
        1. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 14 September 2020 15: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: Hagen
          Want three critical weeks a month? You will not reach the Bosphorus alive and in good health
          Well, tell us how you manage to do all the functionality of your wife, including her work, and combine it with your own work for one week a month? Or does your wife not have "critical" days?
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 14 September 2020 15: 17 New
            +2
            My wife and I are not in a confined space for weeks. Yes, and we chew with her not on duty. Therefore, we forgive each other a lot.
            1. Rusticolus
              Rusticolus 15 September 2020 02: 16 New
              0
              Which Bosphorus, which weeks? The raptors have a cruising range of 300 miles. This is at most a day, with a full 8 hour sleep in the drift. It's like having a bachelorette party with a girlfriend.
      4. Sharky
        Sharky 14 September 2020 12: 45 New
        +3
        I want a captain on this ship !!!

        There are no captains on ships, dear.
        1. Liam
          Liam 14 September 2020 12: 49 New
          -6
          Quote: Sharky
          There are no captains on ships, dear.

          Lieutenant commanders, captains of ranks 1-3 on ships don't have a foot?
          1. Sharky
            Sharky 14 September 2020 13: 41 New
            +3
            First, the conversation is clearly not about titles in this context. The captain on the ship, the captain on the ship, don't you agree?
            Secondly: the rank of captain is not in the Navy.
            Thirdly: looking at the shoulder straps of the girls in the photo, there is not a single officer rank. Do you think that the captain-lieutenant will be appointed the commander of the patrol boat? The ship is of the wrong rank.
            1. Liam
              Liam 14 September 2020 13: 43 New
              -5
              Ushakov disagree


              Definition of CAPTAIN in Ushakov's Explanatory Dictionary of the Russian Language
              CAPTAIN
              captain, m. (fr. capitaine).

              1. Chief military or a merchant ship (sea).

              2. Officer rank in the army or navy (military pre-revolutionary). Company commander with the rank of captain. Captain of the first, second rank.

              3. Part of compound words denoting various ranks and positions (pre-revolutionary). Police captain. Lieutenant Commander. Headquarters Captain.

              4. Head, head of a sports team (sports). The captain of the football team.

              Ushakov. Explanatory dictionary of the Russian language by Ushakov. 2012
              1. Sharky
                Sharky 14 September 2020 13: 53 New
                +3
                You are clearly moving away from the topic, re-read the correspondence again, since you burst with comments. The man wrote that he wants the captain on this ship, not into the past or into the future. To which I answered him.
              2. Sharky
                Sharky 14 September 2020 14: 05 New
                +2
                Ushakov disagree

                It would be more appropriate on your part to cite excerpts from the current Ship charter of the Russian Navy. Part one, chapter 1. Basics of ship organization. General Provisions. Item 9:
                9. At the head of the ship is ship commander... To assist the ship commander, the following are appointed:

                - senior assistant (assistant), who is the first deputy commander of the ship, - deputies and assistants, determined by the ship's staff.

                The entire personnel of the ship is its crew.
            2. Free wind
              Free wind 14 September 2020 18: 16 New
              -1
              All feminines have towers, why there are no titles is unclear, well, not fence-building institutes.
      5. K-50
        K-50 14 September 2020 14: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Clever man
        I want a captain on this ship !!! And around the world! The captain is a man?

        Remember the song from the movie "Prisoner of the Caucasus".
        There Yuri Nikulin cleverly said, "Well, there are three of them!" request sad
        Not a cabin boy, not a cook, not a captain! As the reins fall under, let there be a tail, so that's it. Where to run in the middle of the ocean? Just overboard. Do you need it? lol
      6. venik
        venik 14 September 2020 14: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: Clever man
        I want a captain on this ship !!! And around the world! The captain is a man?

        =========
        Reminded a "bearded" children's anecdote:
        . As a survival experiment, 20 men and 1 woman were planted on one ... And on the other - 20 women and 1 man ...
        A year later, we arrived to check the situation ...
        - On the first island: beauty and order: In the middle of the island there is a chair in which a woman sits. Men are scurrying around: plowing, gathering fruits, etc. The lady looks around the "farm" and suddenly indignantly: "14th! You work poorly! Your turn is postponed to the end of the month!"
        - On the second island: Madhouse !!! In the middle there is a palm tree, surrounded by a crowd of angry women ..... On a palm tree, desperately clinging to a branch, sits an exhausted man with a mad look ..... Ladies frantically shake the palm tree screaming: "Get off the infection! You've been" resting "for 15 minutes.
        !! " wassat
        -----
        Are not afraid? laughing lol
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 14 September 2020 16: 40 New
          +1
          I will answer with an anecdote. I really like to participate in group sex! Why???? You can make money ...
          1. venik
            venik 14 September 2020 17: 10 New
            0
            Quote: Clever man
            I will answer with an anecdote. I really like to participate in group sex! Why???? You can make money ...

            ======
            good drinks
      7. iouris
        iouris 14 September 2020 20: 46 New
        0
        Dear "Meeting a Song", please sing the song. I remember there were these words: "... I took it off decisively, but he did not ask ..."
        Dear Vasily Nikanorovich, on your application we are transmitting the song "Is it that man?"
        Be afraid of your desires.
    2. smart ass
      smart ass 14 September 2020 10: 41 New
      +6
      Who will explain to me why there is equality in the constitution, and women retire earlier?
      1. Senka naughty
        Senka naughty 14 September 2020 14: 27 New
        0
        Quote: Clever man
        do women retire earlier?

        Because children give birth.
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 14 September 2020 16: 36 New
          0
          Unfortunately, this is their biological function.
      2. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 14 September 2020 20: 07 New
        0
        Smart guy, you ask the workers about early retirement ...
        sleeper
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 14 September 2020 21: 51 New
          +1
          They work as miners, at construction sites and melt steel, now I understand!
  2. Finches
    Finches 14 September 2020 09: 57 New
    18
    I don’t know how in the navy, but in connection, in order to maintain combat readiness, the schedule of a special cycle of the women's body for a month had to be asserted that the duties at the combat posts would be distributed fairly ... laughing
    1. unhappy
      unhappy 14 September 2020 10: 06 New
      +5
      I read that after the crews of the G-5 torpedo boats received special rations due to the heaviest loads during the cruise. The Raptor is not a pleasure boat, how to understand this action? These are not women, but military personnel, do not care?
    2. ancient
      ancient 14 September 2020 10: 18 New
      +6
      Quote: Finches
      I do not know how in the navy, but in connection, in order to maintain combat readiness, I had to assert a special cycle of the women's body for a month,

      I fully support drinks ... even without comments and that ... it's interesting ... in the article not a word about .... "combat work at combat posts" or ... is this .. "walking demonstration" Raptor " wassat ?
      I wonder ... what else is there to wait ..... a female submarine commander and .. "purely female crew"? lol
      1. sailor roman
        sailor roman 14 September 2020 11: 03 New
        +8
        The experience of the formation of purely female and mixed crews and the operation of ships and vessels in the navies of European countries and the United States has shown that the cost of building, refitting and operating such ships increases by 20-30%, the effectiveness of actions is much lower. For these reasons, the programs for the creation of such crews from 2020 have been significantly curtailed.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 14 September 2020 15: 32 New
          +7
          hi Thanks for the info! The "experiment" runs the risk of ending like one song.

          "The dress was blown off by the wind, the shame was exposed, And the plugs flew through the bushes." (FROM)
      2. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 14 September 2020 20: 15 New
        0
        ancient, "combat work at combat posts" ...
        on the railway
        "purely female crew" ...
        sleepers
        1. Finches
          Finches 14 September 2020 20: 57 New
          +1
          Don't confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs, please! hi
          1. cat Rusich
            cat Rusich 14 September 2020 21: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: Finches
            Don't confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs, please! hi

            You can swing a sledgehammer, but you cannot use the wheel sad
            1. ancient
              ancient 14 September 2020 21: 33 New
              +1
              Quote: cat Rusich
              You can swing a sledgehammer, but you cannot use the wheel

              At the helm you have to think and ... after all, they can also shoot at you. wink
              1. cat Rusich
                cat Rusich 14 September 2020 21: 50 New
                +1
                O. Spiridonova - special forces "Alpha", retired colonel, 10 years commander of the women's section in Directorate "A"
                O. Spiridonova
                The detachment, of course, was disbanded - there is no one to "swing with sledgehammers" ...
                1. ancient
                  ancient 14 September 2020 21: 57 New
                  +1
                  Quote: cat Rusich
                  special forces "Alpha", retired colonel, 10 years commander of the women's section in Directorate "A"

                  And what .... the KGB (FSB) have been on the staff all their lives and .. "operatives" and their training according to a separate plan and the "methods" of work are the same ... "different" wink ... but they do their job right soldier
                  1. cat Rusich
                    cat Rusich 14 September 2020 22: 07 New
                    0
                    Lyudmila Pavlichenko
                    Lyudmila Pavlichenko
                    We can say that there was a war then ... but today in Syria, in the Donbass, recently in Chechnya ... or do you not consider a "local conflict" a war?
            2. Finches
              Finches 14 September 2020 21: 33 New
              +1
              It's not about the sledgehammer, but about constant combat readiness ... However, in order to understand this, you need to command a platoon, company, battalion ... (of course, where women military personnel are present, like our signalmen, in sufficient numbers), and so then our women are smart! You can't argue against that!
              1. cat Rusich
                cat Rusich 14 September 2020 22: 17 New
                -1
                Quote: Finches
                It's not about the sledgehammer - it's about constant combat readiness ...

                And in the "men's team" there are no problems with "went into a binge", "today with a hangover", "my wife has an anniversary", "I have a birthday" and so on and so on ... drinks
                1. Finches
                  Finches 15 September 2020 06: 15 New
                  0
                  And these men need to get rid of! Immediately!
                  1. cat Rusich
                    cat Rusich 15 September 2020 19: 42 New
                    0
                    Eugene, and who to recruit instead of them? ... women? - Give young people a salary right away.
                    1. Finches
                      Finches 15 September 2020 20: 02 New
                      0
                      Come on, there are enough normal men in Russia! Of course, it is necessary to work with young people, but nevertheless, they have not degenerated yet!
                      1. cat Rusich
                        cat Rusich 15 September 2020 20: 28 New
                        0
                        Young people today need to be "lured" into production (present) - and then they should be properly retained in production, and not "talk about optimization and nanotechnology." And to bring the salary to the level where the wife can sit at home with the children, and not go to "lay the sleepers."
                      2. Finches
                        Finches 15 September 2020 20: 32 New
                        0
                        I’m in the army of the 90s - sometimes I didn’t get anything at all, except for rations, for three months, and the money allowance itself was ridiculous to the point of horror ... She did not go to lay sleepers on me - there was no time - the household must be run - I’m not all the time! But here everything is divine - a man in the service, a woman in the house! And not vice versa! Our Russian woman will lay down the sleepers and endure everything, but I'll tell you this - everyone has their own share and there is nothing to distort unnecessarily!
                      3. cat Rusich
                        cat Rusich 15 September 2020 20: 45 New
                        0
                        Workers at the plant in the 90s could not get anything for six months or more, "do you want to eat?" - start a "subsidiary farm" - a potato plot, but the rent was not canceled ...
                      4. Finches
                        Finches 15 September 2020 20: 49 New
                        0
                        Well, you see! And now all the GDPs are not happy ... laughing But a woman in the army, in some positions, is for any brute force and no one needs PR - doctors, signalmen, planners ... But the crews are not like that, ships, planes ... A mobilization reserve can be prepared, from this point of view it is somewhere a justified action, but not in the case, all the same!
                      5. cat Rusich
                        cat Rusich 15 September 2020 21: 16 New
                        0
                        In my opinion. There is more noise than sense with the "female Raptor". We recruited a crew of 3 (THREE !!!) sailors, and whether it were the crew of an aircraft carrier, together with the flight wing, they were fully staffed with women. Time will pass, the command will "play enough" with the "curiosity" and the "female Raptor" will dissolve in reorganization and reassignment to new positions and titles.
                      6. Finches
                        Finches 15 September 2020 21: 20 New
                        0
                        I agree with you, there is a lot in modern Russia - PR for the sake of PR! Because, with all due respect, who is Shoigu for the army - a jacket, without clan and tribe, but tries to rule the good as best he can, even though the Chief of the General Staff keeps the true warrior from his roots - Gerasimov, for which he has respect!
                      7. cat Rusich
                        cat Rusich 15 September 2020 21: 34 New
                        0
                        About "female carriages" where did they start with the tsar-father ...
                        burlachki river Sura 1910
                        Burlachki river Sura 1910 - photo, not painting ...
                      8. cat Rusich
                        cat Rusich 15 September 2020 21: 40 New
                        0
                        Women barge haulers are not an isolated phenomenon ...
                        women barge haulers
  • smart ass
    smart ass 14 September 2020 21: 54 New
    +1
    It is not clear what is more dangerous. Give them a combat boat or make them fix the path along which the trains will go)))
    1. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 14 September 2020 22: 12 New
      0
      Vasya, and the woman is a teacher, doctor, cook ...
  • sailor roman
    sailor roman 28 September 2020 09: 58 New
    0
    It was in such a team that I worked since the age of 14, as a railway worker of the first category. The first week I barely crawled home to, but for a month I got involved. There were only women in the brigade, and exactly as indicated in the photo we worked.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 14 September 2020 10: 53 New
    +9
    Quote: Finches
    I don't know how in the navy

    I know how in the navy, many women, technologists have worked with me. mimics, cooks, service staff, there were even radio operators and one navigator. But it is not a woman's place to walk the seas, leave this work to the peasants. Take care of your destiny.
    1. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 14 September 2020 20: 34 New
      0
      Quote: tihonmarine
      But it is not a woman's place to walk the seas; leave this work to the men. Take care of your destiny.

      Russian woman
      1. smart ass
        smart ass 14 September 2020 21: 55 New
        0
        Now this is the exception than the rule
  • dedBoroded
    dedBoroded 14 September 2020 11: 03 New
    +1
    And if we consider that once in the sultan's harems this cycle was miraculously synchronized among the personnel, then there is a possible loss of combat readiness by the crew
    1. Hagen
      Hagen 14 September 2020 12: 47 New
      0
      The sultan himself did not live in a harem. He always had the opportunity to mount a horse and ... to hunt. Where will you jump out of the boat if the critical times of the crew coincide? Like saints walking on water ???
    2. Free wind
      Free wind 14 September 2020 12: 49 New
      0
      Well, not entirely wonderful, then we figured out in what cases synchronization occurs. But if the eunuch caught the mamzelek with such synchronization, he probably kept them on a short leash, otherwise a few words to the Sultan and that's it.
    3. Moore
      Moore 14 September 2020 13: 49 New
      +1
      I am confident somewhere in the region of 99% that this boat has a replacement crew, he is also the main one. And girls - so, to support the global trend ...
  • Elephant
    Elephant 14 September 2020 10: 01 New
    -1
    It wouldn't hurt to shear sheep. Sometimes they will have to wear a helmet ...
    1. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 14 September 2020 10: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: Elephant
      It wouldn't hurt to shear sheep. Sometimes they will have to wear a helmet ...

      Will a helmet only fit a shorn ram? You come across such rams who need to wrap a footcloth over their head so that they don't lose their helmet.
      1. Elephant
        Elephant 14 September 2020 10: 17 New
        0
        And with such tails as the girls in the photo against the background of the Constantine Battery in Sevastopol, a helmet or armored helmet will constantly fidget over the head! And the hairstyles will often have to be changed: in a cap, the tail is outward, and in a helmet, it will have to be folded into a buzz at the top of the head (if the hair is out, the wind will blow and prevent the beauties from aiming at the enemy from the Pechenegs))).
        1. KVU-NSVD
          KVU-NSVD 14 September 2020 10: 26 New
          +1
          They underwent general military training and, accordingly, they completely adjusted their helmets.
          1. Elephant
            Elephant 14 September 2020 10: 43 New
            +4
            And you do not care that the one in the engine compartment may have to repair the engine somewhere in the sea, it suddenly happens that such a lush head of hair can accidentally wind on some shaft there ...?
            1. Dodikson
              Dodikson 14 September 2020 10: 59 New
              +2
              Yes, this is not even the point, it is clear that no one will send them to the fighting.
              and they must be shaved for the same reason that men were shaved. mustaches and beards were also prohibited.
              because a mustache and a beard are unhygienic, they are lice, fleas, mice, rats
            2. KVU-NSVD
              KVU-NSVD 14 September 2020 11: 03 New
              -3
              Quote: Elephant
              And you do not care that the one in the engine compartment

              Let the one in the engine compartment think for herself and I think she has enough sense not to climb with her hair loose in places with moving parts of mechanisms.
              1. Elephant
                Elephant 14 September 2020 11: 16 New
                0
                Quote: KVU-NSVD
                Let the one in the engine compartment think for herself and I think she has enough sense not to climb with her hair loose in places with moving parts of mechanisms.

                And if tomorrow is a war. And then let the enemy boat, immobilized at sea, successfully shoot ...? By the way, ladies can also spoil their fashionable nails during repair work!
            3. Piramidon
              Piramidon 14 September 2020 13: 51 New
              -1
              Quote: Elephant
              And you do not care that the one in the engine compartment may have to repair the engine somewhere in the sea, it suddenly happens that such a lush head of hair can accidentally wind on some shaft there ...?

              In your opinion, then it is necessary to shave everyone who deals with mechanisms? Turners, millers, drivers, weavers, spinners ... who, according to TB, must put their hair under a headdress when working.
            4. Rzzz
              Rzzz 14 September 2020 13: 55 New
              +1
              Quote: Elephant
              you may have to repair the engine somewhere in the sea

              Firstly, this motor boat does not go out to sea. So, inside the bay it drives and not far from one famous bridge.
              Secondly, modern engines do not imply any "repair at sea". Only ashore, and only by certified specialists. There, purely physically, many operations - you can do hell.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 14 September 2020 10: 51 New
      10
      Quote: Elephant
      Sometimes they will have to wear a helmet ...

      A helmet in the fleet is not the main thing ...
      But if you have to fight for the survivability of the Raptor ... or, God forbid, drown, or a fire ... Will the girls have enough strength to get a plaster or swing a hole with a sledgehammer to wrap the turned-out steel out - that is the question ...
      And "to defile along the waves under the southern sun, this is to snowboarders or yachtsmen .. It will still be easier there.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 14 September 2020 11: 05 New
        -4
        I think in the learning process there was also a subject about damage control with practical exercises.
      2. Rzzz
        Rzzz 14 September 2020 14: 01 New
        -2
        Quote: BoA KAA
        fight for the survivability of the Raptor ... or, God forbid, sink, or a fire ... Will the girls have enough strength to get a plaster or use a sledgehammer to wave a hole,

        What the fuck is vitality. What a plaster, what a sledgehammer. This is not a battleship, this is a patrol boat. Put on immersion suits - and overboard.

        True, I saw a figure here, how much this motor boat costs. The construction price is about twice as much as a six-thousander dry cargo ship. They complain that it is too expensive.
      3. bk316
        bk316 15 September 2020 18: 10 New
        -1
        And "to defile along the waves under the southern sun, this is for snowboarders or yachtsmen ..

        Snowboarders and on the waves? Poor fellows ... laughing
    3. Finches
      Finches 14 September 2020 20: 59 New
      +1
      A woman is not fit for a man to offend, especially for the eyes! And for her hair she has a commander ... Without you, she can handle it!
  • Alien From
    Alien From 14 September 2020 10: 02 New
    +3
    This is not a woman's business !!!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 14 September 2020 10: 09 New
      +4
      This is not a woman's business !!!
      Yah what ... in Israel they don't think so.
      1. ancient
        ancient 14 September 2020 10: 27 New
        +7
        Quote: The same Lech
        . in Israel do not think so.

        If there was a population in the Russian Federation, and even more so the size of the Armed Forces, as in Israel, ... then I dare to assure you ... we did not think in the same way ... "about this" ... but we would "do" a military conscription to the RF Armed Forces is mandatory for both sexes, with only some concessions for females. wink
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 14 September 2020 10: 28 New
          +1
          Well, taking into account your comment ... tell me basically women can serve in our army in combat positions? hi
          1. ancient
            ancient 14 September 2020 11: 12 New
            +5
            Quote: The same Lech
            . Tell me, in principle, women can serve in our army in combat positions?

            From practical experience I report ..... yes they can - at the command post and the ZKP when carrying the OBD, at the command post of the IA guidance, in the OBS, we also had technicians for the AO (we carried trolleys with the "Tester").
            And they were "visiting" the sailors (in Vesely), so I personally observed how the "seamen" -armsmen pushed carts with torpedoes and buoys under the Il-38 wink
          2. Recon
            Recon 14 September 2020 13: 09 New
            +1
            In principle they can, but not in the field. And not on the water.
          3. Finches
            Finches 14 September 2020 21: 02 New
            +1
            I, with your permission and taking into account my experience, will answer, if you will, in positions that determine combat readiness and predetermine decision-making - NO!

            In short, if you understand - a woman's heart can sacrifice a man and mercilessly destroy him for the sake of her goals, but send him to death deliberately, for the sake of fulfilling a duty, and herself remain indifferent ... A normal woman's heart can never do this, even if it is at stake the fate of the Motherland! God arranged it that way, that's why the human race continues to exist ... I apologize for being confused and, perhaps, stupid! But somewhere like that!
      2. Elephant
        Elephant 14 September 2020 10: 29 New
        -1
        And the kid downstairs is happy about something ...))) Earlier in the Soviet Army, the cook added bromine to the compote ... soldier
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 14 September 2020 10: 35 New
          +2
          And the kid downstairs is happy about something ...

          Well I would smile surrounded by so many beauties ... would meow like a March cat ... not life, but raspberries for a man.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 14 September 2020 19: 42 New
            +1
            Quote: The same Lech
            Well, I would be surrounded by so many beauties ... I would meow like a March cat ... not life, but raspberries for a man.

            You just do not take into account all the nuances of the command of the women's team. I happened to serve with a graduate of the Moscow VOKU, who after several years
        2. Finches
          Finches 14 September 2020 22: 02 New
          +1
          The boy is not happy, smiling with grief! According to modern traditions of the West and Israel, including - he is gay, he went to the army for a relationship, but he came to it is not clear where ... Some women around! Here and smiling wondering - where to roll this world! laughing
      3. unhappy
        unhappy 14 September 2020 10: 33 New
        +5
        Have you seen the movie "The Dawns Here Are Quiet"?
        What are you proud of? For a man, I will not say that it is shameful, but still. It is clear that everyone is taking weapons in a mortal threat, maybe you are ready to give weapons to children, in peacetime? If so, how do you live ...
        1. garri-lin
          garri-lin 14 September 2020 14: 21 New
          0
          You noticed very accurately. Vaskov's monologue at the end of the book beats a tear.
      4. Free wind
        Free wind 14 September 2020 10: 36 New
        +3
        These are conscripts, I'm all for it. There are not so many female cadres. Madamas have towers, plus 5-6 years of experience. Children will want to have every 3 years, you can sit, then sick leave with a child, and what kind of mother is she leaving her children. Here we are not even talking about a woman at sea, but about a mother who abandons her child. I would have got rid of such a madam when we met right away .. Who is their daddy interesting. There have already been many such experiments, supposedly they will serve for a year, and then they hang around at the headquarters. Seniority goes, retired in his prime. And many can be transferred to civilian life. I'm against.
        1. ancient
          ancient 14 September 2020 11: 15 New
          +3
          Quote: Free Wind
          There are not so many female cadres.

          What do you mean by the definition ... "Women career workers"?
          In communications battalions and "bases" in the positions of privates and sergeants of the long-term service, almost all are women, and ensigns are almost without exception ... officers and ... only a few. soldier
      5. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 14 September 2020 10: 59 New
        0
        Quote: The same Lech
        Oh well ... they don't think so in Israel.

        Kurds don't think so either.
        1. Free wind
          Free wind 14 September 2020 11: 26 New
          +2
          Which is small, such a sweetheart, really fingers, albeit with a manicure, but it seems the girl was training. And this mumzel with the nose of Barnabas, the women's club was closed on TNT, so she enrolled in the militants along the way.
        2. unhappy
          unhappy 14 September 2020 11: 44 New
          +3
          I saw a video on YouTube, a group of Kurds in the mountains grappled with the Turks, there was also a girl in the role of a draft force in the back rows. Do not flatter yourself, the times of the Amazons are areas of myth.
      6. Dodikson
        Dodikson 14 September 2020 11: 00 New
        -2
        and in what battles did they take part?
        in bed?
      7. Gnefredov
        Gnefredov 14 September 2020 13: 34 New
        0
        Well yes. And the guy in the lower right corner got them all, so they are now, cheerful.
      8. smart ass
        smart ass 15 September 2020 10: 25 New
        0
        I'm only behind to front them
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 14 September 2020 10: 03 New
    +7
    The world is ruled by tolerance. Women on planes and ships, let the men give birth.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 14 September 2020 10: 18 New
      +4
      let the men give birth.

      Ugh ... what disgusting ... a woman is converted into a man and then they say that the man gave birth to homosexuals or homosexuals in a family ... ugh ... where the world is heading.
      1. minus
        minus 14 September 2020 11: 44 New
        +1
        Last week, mothers of girls in fifth grade, in which the middle son is studying, resented the fact that now joint labor lessons. The teacher said that * the gender division of students into boys and girls in our education has been removed, all * ..... So we are gradually pushing this tolerance on the sly ...
        1. garri-lin
          garri-lin 14 September 2020 14: 24 New
          0
          The question is what is taught in joint labor lessons? If cooks and stools to plan in equal shares, then it is normal.
        2. Free wind
          Free wind 14 September 2020 18: 10 New
          -1
          The fifth grade is the current, post-Old Slavic-Soviet, it corresponds to the 4th grade. something was already beating. There is no need here about tolerance, ask the headmaster of the school, any head of the kindergarten, how many checks come from the prosecutor's office, and suddenly the child will prick a finger, or he will screw himself up with a hammer. Take a hammer in your hands at any production facility if you don't have a permit, that's it, shooting on the spot with a slingshot in the balls. In schools, any machines are already prohibited, no director will take responsibility for some kind of emergency. and will do the right thing. In the gyms, the ropes have been cut, the horses' legs have been sawn off. I personally saw the children playing at physical education ..... with balloons. Some sheep broke the nose with a ball, dad dashed off a complaint to the prosecutor's office, the balls were taken for examination. Goes to the fact that gyms will be upholstered with mattresses in a circular, as for violent madmen. So what about chihar or loudmouth. better not to speak. first you need to find out what's what.
  • Varyag71
    Varyag71 14 September 2020 10: 05 New
    +9
    not an army, but a circus already
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 14 September 2020 10: 08 New
    +8
    ... the results of the experiment are considered successful ...

    There are many positions in the military where women are very successful. But the crew of a boat or a ship ... a dubious idea. And what's the point of this experiment?
    Still, the maritime service is fraught with physical difficulties, where exactly physical strength may be needed ... And according to the charter, medical requirements and common sense - lifting weights is contraindicated for women. Emancipation sometimes takes on bizarre and abnormal forms ...
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 14 September 2020 10: 15 New
      -6
      Quote: Doccor18
      Still, naval service is fraught with physical difficulties, where exactly physical strength may be needed ...

      Well, where physical strength may be needed
      boat commander, electrician and helmsman-signalman.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 14 September 2020 10: 36 New
        +9
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Well, where physical strength may be needed

        How are we going to moor? These three people are the entire crew of the boat. That's it, there are no other crew members on the Raptor.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 14 September 2020 10: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexey RA
          How are we going to moor? These three people are the entire crew of the boat. That's it, there are no other crew members on the Raptor.

          Well, as soon as they overwhelm the sowing campaign, they will quietly forget this experiment ...
          The crew is a variable. It is unlikely that at the base will sit "in the wings" of the corresponding qualifications of the female crew. Inevitably, you will have to "dilute" the sailors.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 14 September 2020 11: 02 New
          -1
          Quote: Alexey RA
          How are we going to moor? These three people are the entire crew of the boat.

          Simply, one on the bridge, two first secured the bow, then the stern, and then the three of them will lead the additional. There, the ends are not "weaving", they will cope.
        3. Dikson
          Dikson 14 September 2020 11: 13 New
          -1
          With a good helmsman, it's easy .. It's still a boat, not a cruiser ... If you learn to rub against the wall, you just have to put mooring lines on the bollard ...)))
        4. Rzzz
          Rzzz 14 September 2020 14: 08 New
          +3
          Quote: Alexey RA
          How are we going to moor? These three people are the entire crew of the boat.

          I alone coped on the stretch of an 18-meter yacht. Stopped the boat, you run and throw the mooring lines. True, if the wind is strong, a sailor is already needed, and that is, there is a risk of breaking firewood.
          1. Gnefredov
            Gnefredov 14 September 2020 14: 11 New
            0
            Well, there is mass inertia. It makes a difference where you are. If on the dock, then no problem. But if in a boat recourse
            1. Rzzz
              Rzzz 14 September 2020 14: 15 New
              +1
              So I was in the boat, alone. My sailor got sick then.
              1. Gnefredov
                Gnefredov 14 September 2020 14: 33 New
                0
                Cool. Well, one more brick in favor of the absence of women in the navy.
                1. Rzzz
                  Rzzz 14 September 2020 21: 35 New
                  +2
                  Why then. On the same yachts, I often met working girls. Mostly sailors, but I saw one captain.

                  Now I work for a shipping company, and sometimes we come across ladies in our crews. Of course, they rarely make a long career with a family. But recently, one of the first mates was sitting on a steamer - no problem at all. And he knows how to manage, and ship the ship, and maintain documentation, and command the crew.
                  The only thing was that the captain was a little puffed up there, there were always some complaints. But this is most likely because a woman, he was not ready for this.
      2. Doccor18
        Doccor18 14 September 2020 10: 44 New
        +7
        Well, where physical strength may be needed

        Take a "parade march" along the coastline ..
        Or serve on it, carry out maintenance, minor current repairs, refuel, load and unload ammunition, food, paint and much more ... Or will the second crew - male ... do all this for them ...?
      3. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 14 September 2020 11: 04 New
        +9
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Well, where physical strength may be needed

        Situations are different ...
        1.the actual fight for the survivability of the ship or its power plant ...
        2.stormy conditions, when you feel like pregnant with toxicosis ...
        3.mooring at sea and keeping the boat on hooks ...
        4. loading of ammunition, provisions or else a thread of any cargo ..
        Well, then you can remember different "goodies" such as grounding, keeping watch, high pressure ...
        1. Gnefredov
          Gnefredov 14 September 2020 14: 19 New
          +1
          All true.
          The sea is an enemy environment. Only a man's stubbornness, multiplied by a simple word - "must" performs miracles.

          I don't want to see women in the Morflot.
          Not the same body weight, and they have different concepts (a lot of jokes about a blonde behind the wheel) ..
    2. ancient
      ancient 14 September 2020 10: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: Doccor18
      There are many positions in the military where women are very successful.

      A little "pompous" ... more truthfully .... "quite tolerable" or "quite appropriate" wink
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 14 September 2020 10: 39 New
        +1
        A little "pompous" ...

        Tried to be more correct hi
        1. ancient
          ancient 14 September 2020 10: 57 New
          +2
          Quote: Doccor18
          Tried to be more correct

          Clear wink ... and here .. "the weaker sex" or ... "secret inhaler" has already marked us .. with a minus wassat
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 14 September 2020 11: 38 New
            +2
            To each his own...
    3. Varyag71
      Varyag71 14 September 2020 10: 35 New
      +7
      We are waiting for the female tank crew. I really want to see how they will remove and install the battery.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 14 September 2020 11: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: Varyag71
        We are waiting for the female tank crew. I really want to see how they will remove and install the battery.

        Or download BC.
      2. 3danimal
        3danimal 15 September 2020 07: 01 New
        +1
        With an exoskeleton as an option request
    4. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 14 September 2020 11: 49 New
      +3
      Exactly 60 years ago, the first woman SECRETLY ran the Boston Marathon.
      She was noticed in the middle of the race, and the organizers wanted to pull her out by force.
      But the surrounding men did not allow. The woman ran normally to the end
      with good results and was not very jaded.
      Since then, women have taken part in marathons, half marathons ...
      And some of the men on the forum, when he was in good shape, could
      run 42 km? wink
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 14 September 2020 12: 07 New
        +2
        And some of the men on the forum, when he was in good shape, could
        run 42 km?

        The comparison is incorrect. Will any of the men on VO be able to enter the ring with Natalia Ragozina? I doubt it very much. And what about professional athletes and average women ...?
        1. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus 15 September 2020 02: 39 New
          0
          Probably many will be able to leave, but very few people will be able to leave on their own two feet. wink
        2. 3danimal
          3danimal 15 September 2020 07: 03 New
          +1
          Former CCM Heavyweight Kickboxing. At that time - no problem smile It would be easy to work, hold it at a distance ..
          1. Gnefredov
            Gnefredov 15 September 2020 14: 59 New
            0
            Fuck. I would not want to run into you in the late eighties.
            1. 3danimal
              3danimal 15 September 2020 18: 05 New
              0
              Oh it wouldn't be scary, I'm 1984 hi laughing
              I just had the peak of activity in 2003-2004. And Ragozina had her first fight (professional) - in 2004. With good experience in amateurs - before that.
              IMHO, I could contain and impose a restrained format (bigger, stronger, I was well prepared enough).
      2. Gnefredov
        Gnefredov 14 September 2020 14: 29 New
        0
        Hello! Yes I can. Every morning fourteen kilometers "five" (usually by running) to Donuzlav and the same amount back.
        Wake up at 04:20, regardless of the season.
        Hang up at 19.40.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 14 September 2020 16: 44 New
          +3
          Good for you! good Cool! I once ran 20s, now 8-10 km once or twice a week. drinks
          1. Gnefredov
            Gnefredov 14 September 2020 18: 31 New
            +1
            I have no choice :) I do not want to take a place in the house with my corpse (and without me there are worries, above the roof). So I am running around like a wasp stung drinks
          2. 3danimal
            3danimal 15 September 2020 07: 05 New
            +1
            I ran 14-15 km every 2 days .. Now - 50 km by bike. Or 3 km in the pool.
            1. Gnefredov
              Gnefredov 15 September 2020 15: 47 New
              0
              This is a hard regime. You have to be a professional to maintain such a schedule.

              I'm still trying to figure out the topic of the article. Again and again, strongly against women in the navy.
              And not only in the navy. In aviation, wherever there is violence, women have no place.
              I don't want to see women at war.
              1. 3danimal
                3danimal 15 September 2020 18: 20 New
                0
                You have to be a professional to maintain such a schedule.

                Not really smile Just 1 hour 10 minutes of running every 2 days. Well, the general physical training complex between them .. Maintained endurance at the level request
                In the pool, 3 km is also a little over an hour, not always in a row.
                And the bike ... It's just interesting. A couple of hours, sometimes a little more smile I started small, in particular, I transferred all travels around the city to a bicycle. And then all the halls were closed for quarantine .. I recommend good
      3. askort154
        askort154 14 September 2020 14: 32 New
        +1
        voyaka uh ....But the surrounding men did not allow. The woman ran to the end normally.

        Alexey, specify - did the woman normally run to the "end", or to the finish line?
        wink hi
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 14 September 2020 16: 49 New
          +1
          Here is the famous footage of Katherine Switzer being grabbed and stopped

          She ran to the finish line with a score of 4 hours and 20 minutes.
          And then I ran many more marathons.
          1. Avior
            Avior 14 September 2020 17: 10 New
            +2
            the man in the jacket - John Semple, the marathon director, is known for fighting all sorts of originals in the marathon.
            On the right, in dark shorts, Tom Miller, Switzer's friend, pushed Semple away from him, later she married him, then they divorced.
  • Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 14 September 2020 10: 13 New
    +2
    All this, of course, is very nice, but it is not clear what would be that (except for PR)?
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 14 September 2020 10: 17 New
    0
    Completed and recognized as successful in the Black Sea Fleet experimentt to create a female crew on a patrol boat.
    It may well be that it will remain an "experiment".
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 14 September 2020 11: 06 New
      0
      Quote: aszzz888
      It may well be that it will remain an "experiment".

      Well, why, crew boats are also needed, let the women dash around the roadstead, and let the men serve on the ships.
      1. Elephant
        Elephant 14 September 2020 11: 38 New
        0
        And why should they wander around the raid?
  • Ham
    Ham 14 September 2020 10: 24 New
    +2
    women are usually much more fanatical than men
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 14 September 2020 10: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: Ham
      women are usually much more fanatical than men

      That's it! How they catch up with the intruder, how they take it on board .... hold on to the men (the woman on the ship is unfortunately)! The intruder will immediately surrender.
    2. L-39NG
      L-39NG 14 September 2020 11: 08 New
      +3
      You're right. For a long time, it was believed that a female fighter was more dangerous to the enemy than a male fighter. First, it was necessary to focus on armed women, then on the unarmed, to those with special caution, tactics and diplomacy, then on men who, after the elimination of their fighting friends, lose their heads and begin to make mistakes after mistakes in battle. And most importantly, no gender discrimination! Bullets for men and women are made the same. Want equality? Let them get it, without exceptions and without special conditions. How was it in "White Sun of the Desert"? - "A woman, she is also a man." If a woman starts shooting in my direction, I will shoot her. No matter who, where, code or why.
      1. Gnefredov
        Gnefredov 14 September 2020 11: 23 New
        0
        There are many sensible answers in the thread. Yours (for me personally) is the best.
        That's exactly it.
      2. ccsr
        ccsr 14 September 2020 13: 24 New
        +4
        Quote: L-39NG
        You're right. For a long time, it was believed that a female fighter was more dangerous to the enemy than a male fighter.

        I don’t know how it was in ancient times, but I know very well that the appearance of even three women in the field of one of the departments of the GSVG headquarters was, to put it mildly, a headache for the chief and his deputy. Firstly, there is a problem with the toilet, because one woman cannot be released not only during the day, but also at night, so we had to send them two by two. Secondly, in 5-10 days an unwashed woman is unlikely to feel comfortable, especially since they slept in the same kunga of the staff car without undressing with the men. And thirdly, some of them were family, although they tried not to take them to the FKSU, and this also left an imprint on their activities.
        In general, even in large headquarters with women, hemorrhoids when leaving the field, and what problems there are in combat units, I think those who have come across the arrangement of their life will tell, and this is hardly a simple matter even in peacetime.
        1. Gnefredov
          Gnefredov 14 September 2020 13: 51 New
          +2
          Oh Hurray! The voice of sanity in the stream of examining / evaluating the figures of cannon fodder in the female shell.
          For some reason I missed your comment. I am getting better.
          All right write.
          You know, I have not yet become very furious since the moment when my cousin was cut off by a chain in the hawse above the elbow. Three (three!) Peasants with crowbars and pokers poked out a chain, at the other end of which a multi-ton anchor dangled.
          Did not help.
          Well, what women can we talk about here? It has long been noted: a woman on a ship? The fat is in the fire!
          I don’t want to write any further (I’m starting to swear, better than a dockman).
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 14 September 2020 10: 42 New
    +4
    The idea is dubious.
  • Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 14 September 2020 11: 09 New
    0
    Such news does not make me happy.
    Comrades live in the pre-war period.
  • tso1973
    tso1973 14 September 2020 11: 10 New
    +5
    There was also a female BMD crew in the Tula Airborne Division, the military attaches were freaking out from its training, but this crew did not last long, all the crew members got married and went on maternity leave. The next attempts to create a similar crew, as far as I know, failed.
  • Dikson
    Dikson 14 September 2020 11: 15 New
    +4
    .. then they will transfer from the Raptor to the admiral's traveling crew .. and everything will be fine with them ..))
  • Varyag71
    Varyag71 14 September 2020 11: 49 New
    +1
    I think there is only one reason for this. Admirals want to see their daughters and granddaughters in the navy. There are female military pilots, now there will be sea wolves. Then we will see the ladies in the Special Forces of the GRU. Well, there and not far off are women commanders of units, armies, etc.
  • Ela myaushkina
    Ela myaushkina 14 September 2020 12: 06 New
    -4
    A good start. A woman is also a man and should have the same opportunities and rights as a man, at the level of the law. But if she wants to use them, this is her business, and should not be in the form of a duty, following the example - since you have the same rights as a man, then why are you not drafted into the army and do not go?

    Now is the 21st century and the values ​​of ancient times are not applicable to it. Society should develop, and not be in some kind of unchanging fossilized cocoon, with certain unchanging things. There are no permanent things. Everything changes and develops in the form of evolution.
    1. Gnefredov
      Gnefredov 14 September 2020 13: 29 New
      +4
      "A good start".
      What a good start? I don't see anything good here. To feed the lice in the trenches? It's good? Is defecating under yourself cool? Yes? It must be so sexy. Yes?
      You, dear individual (your gender is "violet" to me), have never seen or smelled a war if you write that.
      Yes, and thank God.

      Pancake. Are there combat officers here?
      Explain to this miracle that she is delusional.
    2. Region-25.rus
      Region-25.rus 14 September 2020 14: 35 New
      +3
      You, sir, probably have no idea what service or work in the Navy is! And I doubt that you have any idea of ​​any work at all. I've got it !!! I have a lot. What is mooring in strong winds in the course? what is a wave coming at you almost under the bridge in the course? What does it mean to dig into the gland up to the elbows in oil and fuel oil in the course? Work with mooring lines in the course? Or will a team be called from the shore for all dirty work, mooring, emergency situations? Or will the second boat go alongside, with a spare crew?
      1. Gnefredov
        Gnefredov 14 September 2020 14: 51 New
        +4
        They can’t imagine anything. Let them try to swim 173 meters in the hold, five meters below the waterline. In fuel oil and with two cameras for a breather (and it was also not known whether this Camera was there or not).

        There is no place for women in the navy. If only in Hollywood blockbusters.
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 14 September 2020 15: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: Ela Myaushkina
      A good start. A woman is also a man and should have the same opportunities and rights as a man, at the level of the law. But if she wants to use them, this is her business, and should not be in the form of a duty, following the example - since you have the same rights as a man, then why are you not drafted into the army and do not go?

      That is, a woman should have rights at the level of a man, but not have responsibilities. Not bad, what is already there.
      Quote: Ela Myaushkina

      Now is the 21st century and the values ​​of ancient times are not applicable to it. Society should develop, and not be in some kind of unchanging fossilized cocoon, with certain unchanging things.

      Well, what, what, but fossilized cocoons in relation to women, our country did not suffer.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 14 September 2020 12: 28 New
    0
    This is complete nonsense! In practice, during a storm, as a rule, the female half of the attendants "rested" in the place with the passengers until the storm subsides.
    This service is not the easiest, especially since it is a patrol boat, there will be no discounts
    1. Region-25.rus
      Region-25.rus 14 September 2020 14: 29 New
      0
      well, I must admit, in my more or less ten years of practice, the female staff was resistant to rolling. The unstable ones just ran away right away))) As one of my captains used to say - "For me, there are no women or men on the ship! There are crew members!" - when one of the female personalities began to complain - "The crew must be fed, washed, and ... stuff!")))
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 14 September 2020 14: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: Region-25.rus
        "The crew must be fed, washed, and ... stuff!")))

        And I liked to run to the restaurant during a storm, there was so much food left for us young students to eat to the bone, well, we got the truth from the chief mate for this.
  • Kosya Queen
    Kosya Queen 14 September 2020 12: 36 New
    0
    I wonder why the vests stopped wearing. Look from the Ukrainian fleet they took an example, they long ago refused to wear vests, they also wear white T-shirts.
    1. Gnefredov
      Gnefredov 14 September 2020 13: 07 New
      +2
      They have not yet seen the severed limbs. The head is here, the body is a couple of tens of meters from the head.
      T-shirts ... And the smell.

      UPD. Bab to send to war, the last thing. This is the beginning of the end. This is unacceptable to me.
      Dagger, poison and all sorts of intricacies are normal (the knights of the cloak and dagger will confirm). But shove women into a combat situation?
      I have obscene language further. There are only mats for eight A4 pages.
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 14 September 2020 13: 59 New
    0
    Kinder, Kyuche, Kirche - three female professions ... they are driving a car, like a monkey with a grenade ... no, they were allowed to independently patrol as part of the crew.
  • Region-25.rus
    Region-25.rus 14 September 2020 14: 26 New
    +1
    Te .... and in which case the BZhS themselves will lead? Put the plaster there and squeeze, for example, if something happens? There physical strength is needed (with all due respect to the female sex).
  • askort154
    askort154 14 September 2020 14: 56 New
    0
    The formation of the first female crew of the Raptor patrol boat was announced as an experiment in early March 2020, and the decision was made by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.

    Something Seryoga, either does not breathe evenly towards the female sex, and wants female crews to "ride" them on boats, or, and rather the second - "according to statistics for 10 girls, already less than 9 guys." Last year, I organized the recruitment of girls to the flight school, today in the Navy. What is typical, not in "service structures", but in combat.
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok 14 September 2020 14: 56 New
    0
    "Take care of women,
    beware of women ...
    Yu. Antonov. Film "Take care of women".
    PS. Who did not hide from them, shout hurray !!))
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 14 September 2020 15: 14 New
    0
    Sailors and challenging! All have a diamond of higher education. Well done!
  • Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 14 September 2020 15: 17 New
    +1
    The topic is bad. The topic is bad.
    Tell me, shipbuilders, how many of you remember the name of Sergei Preminin?
    Никто.
    While in a cruiser falling into the abyss, this guy did the impossible.
    What kind of women? Here (above) someone caustically noted (as a roller rolled) on the Minister of Defense.
    And he did it right.

    We still lacked women at the time of decision-making.
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 14 September 2020 20: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Gnefredov
      We still lacked women at the time of decision-making.

      Do you know an unfamiliar comrade that during the Second World War, the crews of three female aviation regiments made the necessary decisions and burned in planes? And how many women fought at the front as snipers, scouts, rescued the wounded, partisan and participated in the underground. They made their decision already when some "men" were looking for an opportunity to evade the draft.
      1. Gnefredov
        Gnefredov 15 September 2020 04: 45 New
        +1
        Vladimir, good morning and welcome!
        Of course, I am aware of the exploits of our women. And Masha Poryvaeva left a trace in history, not every man can do this. Iron will and absolute conviction in the correctness of the choice made.
        Here you can endlessly reveal the topic. My message, however, lies elsewhere. Women must rule the house. Keep the family home. It's trivial to feed your husband. Delicious and satisfying. I strongly protest against their use in military science (the coma of those moments when it is "deadly necessary").

        In pursuit. This is not my first year at VO. If you are confused by my comments (and the "worm of doubt" has crept in), drain it down the toilet. I am from the Soviet Union and that says it all.
        wink
        1. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 15 September 2020 05: 30 New
          +2
          Quote: Gnefredov
          Vladimir, good morning and welcome!

          Good morning to you! Yes, women are the guardians of the family hearth, but alas, this is a common excuse for "strong" men. We simply do not want to admit to ourselves that in fact, women are considered as servants. But, not all of them agree with this position, many continue the work of their fathers and grandfathers, and why hide, some of them have "eggs" stronger than many modern men.
          Your comments do not bother me, I, too, come from the USSR.
          Yours!
  • yriuv62
    yriuv62 14 September 2020 17: 32 New
    +1
    I wonder why this is? That there are not enough men in the country? Or gender games are going on in European style.
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 14 September 2020 19: 40 New
    0
    Do we need a patrol boat with a female crew?!.
    Besides, if my eyes haven't completely refused me ...
    Out of five people, at least two are not women! Or, they are women, but they hide it strongly. What a twist...
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 14 September 2020 20: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: Benzorez
      Out of five people, at least two are not women! Or, they are women, but they hide it strongly. What a twist...
      Apparently the eyes refused, since, in the article it is written
      during the experiment, the crew of the boat, consisting of three female military personnel
      and information about the "Raptor" is available - "Crew 3 + 20".
  • Reviews
    Reviews 14 September 2020 21: 01 New
    0
    An interesting uproar arose. As if all the indignant heard about this for the first time. :) This was not invented yesterday, and not even the day before yesterday. Since the 1930s, it was the predecessor of the Russian Federation - the USSR - that surprised (and probably outraged someone) the whole world with purely female crews of record aircraft, for example. A textbook example - Osipenko, Grizodubova, Raskova - but there were others. And then they raised a surprised cry, as if it was something unseen. :)
  • Mimino
    Mimino 15 September 2020 08: 27 New
    +1
    One question - why?
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 15 September 2020 19: 39 New
    0
    Well, in the articles they write a lot. On "Sargan" (which is much smaller) the team is six people. I didn’t think for sure, there was no need for it. Right now, by the way, they are wandering around the plant.
    They brought the "Sargans" for revisions ... And for the head, when the "Raptor" from Kerch came in terms of support. Again, I didn't consider it unnecessary, but there were more than three sailors running to the people ...
  • ankir13
    ankir13 15 September 2020 22: 24 New
    0
    What for? In which case ..... All the same, only the boatswain will remain ...
  • Ela myaushkina
    Ela myaushkina 26 September 2020 11: 05 New
    -1
    Quote: Gnefredov
    "A good start".
    What a good start? I don't see anything good here. To feed the lice in the trenches? It's good? Is defecating under yourself cool? Yes? It must be so sexy. Yes?
    You, dear individual (your gender is "violet" to me), have never seen or smelled a war if you write that.
    Yes, and thank God.

    Pancake. Are there combat officers here?
    Explain to this miracle that she is delusional.


    A woman can be just as good a soldier or a fighter, no matter what kind of troops, if she was not brought up in the spirit - you are a girl. From what, after a year, she is not capable of anything like standing in the kitchen at the stove or being a pleasurable man in bed, and at the same time has typically female interests, which are interesting to communicate to the same women brought up in the spirit of a girl. And in war, all soldiers or fighters, regardless of gender, and you must be able to defend yourself as well as kill an enemy who threatens you directly.

    So I don’t need to argue here that being a soldier or a fighter is not a woman's face and not for women.