Belarusian oppositionists in Ukraine refused to answer the question about the ownership of Crimea

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The members of the Coordination Council of the opposition of Belarus Anton Rodnenkov and Ivan Kravtsov, who left for Ukraine, refuse to discuss the issue of Crimea's ownership. They try to answer evasively the questions of journalists touching upon this moment.
This was reported by the Ukrainian edition "Ukrinform".

Anton Rodnenkov, in response, referred to the fact that he is a member of the Coordination Council and does not want his personal opinion to be perceived as the official position of the organization he represents. At the same time, he noted that in the ranks of the Belarusian opposition there is no consensus on the Crimean issue. He stated that their organization can be viewed as a discussion round table where different political parties are present. And they have no consensus, including on the Crimea.



Kravtsova was surprised by such a statement of the question by Ukrainian journalists. He drew the attention of Ukrainian journalists to the fact that the Coordinating Council is focused on the internal agenda of Belarus and does not delve into foreign policy issues:

For the last three months we have been super-focused on what is happening in Belarus.

Rodnenkov also added that the question about Crimea was asked to the wrong address, since he and Kravtsov are not politicians.

Such statements of Belarusian oppositionists who found themselves in Ukraine caused a negative reaction from Ukrainian "activists". They heard statements that "they must be sent, where they fled from."
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  1. +13
    11 September 2020 14: 58
    So this is already interesting, apparently not sure about the protection of Western curators laughing
    1. +3
      11 September 2020 15: 07
      Quote: Wend
      So this is already interesting, apparently not sure about the protection of Western curators

      What if they are Belarusian Petrov and Bashirov? wassat
      1. +22
        11 September 2020 15: 27
        Belarusian oppositionists in Ukraine refused to answer the question about the ownership of Crimea

        President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko said that his country has de facto recognized the annexation of Crimea to Russia. He also noted that no one demanded from him the legal recognition of the Crimean referendum.
        But it was necessary to demand ...
        1. +2
          11 September 2020 15: 38
          Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
          President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko said that his country has de facto recognized the annexation of Crimea to Russia.


          And de jure? To the UN and with signatures on pieces of paper?
          1. -18
            11 September 2020 17: 33
            Quote: pereselenec
            And de jure? To the UN and with signatures on pieces of paper?

            Does Russia have a UN mandate on Crimea?
            1. +23
              11 September 2020 17: 53
              Quote: syndicalist
              Does Russia have a UN mandate on Crimea?

              Do you have a mandate in place?
              What is the mandate when it comes to own territory? You still ask about the mandate for Chelyabinsk.
          2. +3
            11 September 2020 18: 03
            Quote: pereselenec
            Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
            President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko said that his country has de facto recognized the annexation of Crimea to Russia.


            And de jure? To the UN and with signatures on pieces of paper?

            The AHL cannot go for this, because he also has a couple of regions where a bunch of citizens live with a "Pole's card", where Western watchdogs can try to crank up a scenario with a referendum and squeeze these regions in the image and likeness of Crimea, and therefore the option "neither yes nor no" is preferable for the AHL. Having unambiguously recognized "one thing", he will objectively not be able to build a line to protect the integrity of the territory, since the "other" will be torn off according to the same principle - "the right of the people to self-determination."
            1. +6
              11 September 2020 18: 40
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Western watchdogs can try to crank the scenario with a referendum and squeeze these regions in the image and likeness of Crimea

              When they turned this scenario from Kosovo, Serbia's recognition / non-recognition of something was a side effect. Alas, you just repeated one of the contrived excuses.
              The point is different. The one whose ally Lukashenka would really like to be.
              1. +2
                11 September 2020 19: 10
                Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                The point is different. The one whose ally Lukashenka would really like to be.

                The point, in my opinion, is also different: Russia is not interested in the recognition of Crimea by Belarus, since
                this would immediately kill a comfortable negotiation platform in Minsk. Sluggish negotiations are of little use, but the other platform will certainly not be "neutral."
                1. +6
                  11 September 2020 22: 34
                  this would immediately kill a comfortable negotiation platform in Minsk. Sluggish negotiations are of little use, but the other platform will certainly not be "neutral."

                  Lord, as if the problem of negotiations in the site.
              2. +6
                11 September 2020 20: 44
                Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                The point is different. The one whose ally Lukashenka would really like to be.
                Wanting to be and to be are different concepts. After 1991, we also wiped ourselves off in the waiting room of the West for a long time, until it finally came to the conclusion that no one there intends to regard Russia as an equal partner. Lukashenka does not have the same question now, since he was clearly given to understand that the West sees Belarus exclusively without Lukashenka, and therefore it makes no sense to Alexander Grigorievich to make other curtsies in his direction. By and large, the stupid politicians of the West have themselves given a start to accelerate the implementation of the plan for the close integration of Russia and Belarus, which will be carried out as soon as possible. at the end of the upcoming five-year plan, both the AHL and the GDP will resign from their presidency, and therefore they will try to make the greatest possible reserve for creating a union state, within which they will definitely not be "out of work." If this attempt to "break into the Minsk hut in broad daylight" had not happened, then the AHL could have exploited the topic of the "union state" for a long time to come and at the same time pursue its policy of hindering integration processes, gradually reducing it to nothing, but here ... it has nowhere to retreat.
                1. +1
                  11 September 2020 22: 35
                  So Lukashenka does not have a question like that now

                  Uh-huh .. just "already" is not worth it, or "for now" is not worth it?
                  1. 0
                    11 September 2020 22: 39
                    Quote: alexmach
                    Uh-huh .. just "already" is not worth it, or "for now" is not worth it?

                    Already.
                2. 0
                  12 September 2020 14: 18
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  The West sees Belarus exclusively without Lukashenko

                  This is the usual geopolitical bargaining. An example of a failed trader is Yanukovych. The West chose to turn over his counter and take all his "goods" for nothing. An example of a successful trader is Tito. He managed to eat the fish and where to sit.
                  Everyone understands that for Western "partners" everywhere, including in Belarus, the Ukrainian option is preferable - it gives more power cheaper. But if it doesn’t work out, then they may "fork out", as in the case of Tito. Not for nothing did the US Secretary of State fly to Lukashenko.
                  Thus, after successfully cutting off the first option, Lukashenka has more chances for the second option. He obviously understands this. And the recognition of Crimea and other steps of real rapprochement with Russia may spoil all the raspberries for him, and the Western "partners", instead of a deal acceptable to him, will try again the Ukrainian version, only with better preparation. It will turn out like Bashar al-Assad, who both Crimea recognized and Ossetia and generally behaved much more ally in relation to Russia than the same Lukashenka, which burned for himself most of the bridges to the west.
                  In this regard, Lukashenka is still more like Erdogan, who held out in the coup organized by the West, after which he again continued to do business with the "partners" who tried to overthrow him.
                  1. +1
                    12 September 2020 18: 06
                    Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                    This is the usual geopolitical bargaining. An example of a failed trader is Yanukovych. The West chose to turn over his counter and take all his "goods" for nothing. An example of a successful trader is Tito. He managed to eat the fish and where to sit.

                    It's just that in Tito's time the market was held by two authorities - so he had where to maneuver. Once one of the authorities after a long and long illness died, so Tito's counter was immediately turned over, the goods were taken away, and the merchant was dragged to the right where he would die.
                    1. -1
                      13 September 2020 01: 31
                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      during Tito's time, the market was held by two authorities - so he had where to maneuver

                      Erdogan
                3. -1
                  12 September 2020 16: 00
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  We are after 1991

                  And it is not correct to compare Russia with the listed countries. We are a state that plays for itself, and does not choose a side in someone else's confrontation. We cannot be drawn into our sphere of influence for any long time, but we can only be destroyed. If someone tried to be friends with the West in the 90s, without understanding this simple fact, then I can only regret it.
        2. +2
          11 September 2020 16: 23
          Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
          But it was necessary to demand ...

          Not yet evening ...
        3. +9
          11 September 2020 16: 26
          Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
          Belarusian oppositionists in Ukraine refused to answer the question about the ownership of Crimea

          President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko said that his country has de facto recognized the annexation of Crimea to Russia. He also noted that no one demanded from him the legal recognition of the Crimean referendum.
          But it was necessary to demand ...

          Hmm, so we, too, de facto need to recognize Lukashenko as president, and de jure let him collect information from the European Union. So what? fool But his father started spinning.
        4. +3
          11 September 2020 21: 34
          Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
          ...
          But it was necessary to demand ...

          You will first get recognition from Gref and Sberbank.
          1. +1
            15 September 2020 14: 44
            So I say, the enemies are in power. Aliens are not necessary as long as saboteurs and oligarchs rule Russia. Not when the Russians will not prosper.
      2. -5
        11 September 2020 15: 58
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Quote: Wend
        So this is already interesting, apparently not sure about the protection of Western curators

        What if they are Belarusian Petrov and Bashirov? wassat

        Suddenly there is only a PUK, and even then not all of a sudden laughing laughing
    2. +12
      11 September 2020 15: 43
      Quote: Wend
      apparently not sure about the protection of Western curators

      It's just that the curators did not explain to them how to answer such questions. laughing
    3. +2
      11 September 2020 16: 59
      Quote: Wend
      So this is already interesting, apparently not sure about the protection of Western curators laughing

      "Whose Crimea?" is a litmus test.
      You can answer neutrally: "Our!" smile hoping to pass for one winked
      But not in the case of these two lost Belarusian ... goats.
    4. +2
      11 September 2020 19: 27
      Quote: Wend
      So this is already interesting, apparently not sure about the protection of Western curators laughing

      =======
      WHAT (!) Can they answer? "Crimea is Ukrainian"? They are "kirdyk" (as politicians) ....
      "Crimea - Russian" - even more so - "KIRDYK" !!!
      So they spin like "spitting in a frying pan"!!! tongue wink
    5. +1
      11 September 2020 20: 42
      Quote: Wend
      So this is already interesting, apparently not sure about the protection of Western curators

      Nope, everything is according to the manual: so as not to lose the support of Russian-speakers who are not in the subject.
      It's just that the training manual parted with the independent ones: there are no radicals in Belarus.
      But if they suddenly seize power (well, purely theoretically), they will change their clothes on the go am
    6. +1
      14 September 2020 17: 59
      How many bags are there in a pack of tea? 20? One bulk drink)))
  2. +7
    11 September 2020 14: 59
    An idiotic question that all sorts of political scientists and jingoistic patriots poke where and to whom they can only.
    1. +14
      11 September 2020 15: 01
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Stupid question

      What political scientists are and questions Yes
      1. +4
        11 September 2020 15: 23
        An idiotic question. What political scientists are and questions
        Ndiot from the ancient Greek person is not interested in politics.
    2. +13
      11 September 2020 15: 07
      Now these ukrozhurnalists like parrots will always ask this question.
      1. 0
        11 September 2020 15: 20
        Why? Not a bad question. Either you are for us or against us. Everything is immediately visible.
        1. +3
          11 September 2020 16: 03
          Quote: zwlad
          Why? Not a bad question. Either you are for us or against us. Everything is immediately visible.

          yeah it's like answering the camera among gays, do you acknowledge their movement laughing say yes and never wash, say no and immediately get uncomfortable questions
          1. +5
            11 September 2020 16: 14
            I will not admit. On camera or without a camera. I do not care. Inconvenient questions don't scare me.
            1. -3
              11 September 2020 16: 35
              And you, in Ukraine?
              1. +8
                11 September 2020 16: 38
                What?
                I am from the Russian Federation. And I don't recognize the LGBT movement. Rather, I recognize them as perverts. Is that clearer?
                Yes, and I do not have enough sense to go to Ukraine, although my paternal grandfather is from there.
                And what?
            2. +2
              11 September 2020 17: 38
              Quote: zwlad
              I do not care.

              Absolutely the same.
              I consider this question irrelevant. Any territory of Crimea, or whatever, belongs only to those who live on it.
              1. 0
                13 September 2020 10: 47
                Quote: syndicalist
                Quote: zwlad
                I do not care.

                Absolutely the same.
                I consider this question irrelevant. Any territory of Crimea, or whatever, belongs only to those who live on it.

                Don't tell that to the Yakuts. Suddenly they will believe, as Abramovich once did
      2. +14
        11 September 2020 15: 51
        Quote: 4ekist
        Now these ukrozhurnalists like parrots will always ask this question.

        This question is like a password and a check for Russophobia. You will pass the test, live, but only engage in propaganda and say what the Bandera people like, you will not pass the minimum it will be
        they must be sent where they fled from
    3. +1
      11 September 2020 15: 59
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      An idiotic question that all sorts of political scientists and jingoistic patriots poke where and to whom they can only.

      This is a marker of friend or foe in the modern world
    4. 0
      11 September 2020 16: 25
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      An idiotic question that all sorts of political scientists and jingoistic patriots poke where and to whom they can only.

      Yes, they are sharpened to ask such questions.
    5. +1
      11 September 2020 17: 12
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      An idiotic question that all sorts of political scientists and jingoistic patriots poke where and to whom they can only.

      Yes, he's a good question :))
    6. +1
      11 September 2020 17: 50
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      An idiotic question ...

      The question is "gidnist". And, the more they ask it to everyone, the less often they get the answer they would like to hear.
    7. -2
      11 September 2020 23: 35
      "Whose Crimea?" - the question about which side are you on ... "For Mother Russia or for the" nasty "?" ... "For False Dmitry or for Orthodox Russia?" "For the Soviet government or for the bourgeoisie?" "For the Nazis or for the Motherland?" ... "For the USSR or for the" parade of sovereignties "? - the future of our Motherland depended on the answers to these questions, once they allowed themselves to "relax" in 1991 ...
    8. 0
      12 September 2020 00: 07
      A question that perfectly shows what a person is worth, they didn't show anything ...
  3. +6
    11 September 2020 15: 00
    There were statements that "they need to be sent, from where they fled

    Svidomo brain is not capable of more.
    1. +2
      11 September 2020 16: 28
      Quote: Dym71
      Svidomo brain is not capable of more.

      They immediately have a question "whose Crimea?" if the answer is "your" - come in, if the answer is "no" - roll back.
      1. +2
        12 September 2020 00: 12
        It is necessary to ask the ukrov at the entrance to the Crimea.
    2. +1
      11 September 2020 19: 19
      Quote: Dym71
      There were statements that "they need to be sent, from where they fled

      Svidomo brain is not capable of more.

      They didn’t think of sending them to the puppeteers for a puddle and asking them to be replaced as low-quality / defective. laughing
  4. +3
    11 September 2020 15: 04
    ... members of the Coordination Council of the opposition of Belarus Anton Rodnenkov and Ivan Kravtsov refuse to discuss the issue of Crimea's ownership ...

    They paid extra, but not so much to touch on such global topics ...
    1. -3
      11 September 2020 15: 21
      Done right away from the question and could not answer.
      1. +4
        11 September 2020 15: 51
        What was he supposed to answer? That the Crimea is Russian and immediately get in the eye and then an article? Or say that he is Ukrainian and in the event of the overthrow of the barbel, ruin relations with the Russian Federation?
        He answered quite tactfully. The only thing I would say is true.
        This is from the category of the fact that at the dumpling congress where everyone is wearing hats and whips to report that you are gay and wave the LGBT flag. The dungs ​​have a whole hundred medals on their chests that will ring with indignation wassat
        1. -2
          11 September 2020 16: 19
          Well yes. answered like a politician. tactfully. But in principle, his position on Crimea is clear.
        2. +1
          11 September 2020 16: 42
          Quote: Fibrizio
          What was he supposed to answer?

          A couple of years ago, the guys from my office flew to Kiev, so they were asked, "whose Crimea", right when passing the border control. Knowing the Sumerian antics, ours had to cheat "And we do not know what Crimea is, and where it is." The answer is through clenched teeth "Come on."
          1. +3
            11 September 2020 23: 38
            Question: "Whose Crimea?" - The answer is "When will you return Yanukovych's three rubles?"
  5. +5
    11 September 2020 15: 05
    Yes, one of the foreign ministers of one of the largest powers in the world was right when he gave an exact definition to such creatures asking such questions. Sorry, but a shorter phrase will bring me another warning from the local moderators.
  6. +14
    11 September 2020 15: 12
    What a crooked question "Whose Crimea?"
    Well, come to Crimea and look - whose flag is over the City Council, whose military unit stands, and to whose treasury the people pay taxes and from whose pension they receive.
    And so you can agree that Kiev is ours, not yours, since it left the USSR completely illegally.
    1. +2
      11 September 2020 16: 32
      Quote: BABAY22
      whose flag is above the City Council, whose military unit is, and to whose treasury the people pay taxes and from whose pension they receive.

      What language he speaks, what songs he sings, and in what schools he teaches children.
    2. 0
      12 September 2020 00: 27
      To this Sumerian question, one must immediately answer "Whose Lions?"
  7. +8
    11 September 2020 15: 15
    Classic: we play here, we wrap the fish here.
    The right of the Ukrainian people to make friends with the West and the United States, the pidriots do not question.
    And the right of the people of Crimea to self-determination is not allowed in principle.
    Cunning in Ukrainian, however.
    1. +2
      11 September 2020 16: 34
      Quote: prior
      And the right of the people of Crimea to self-determination is not allowed in principle.

      Because the West and the United States do not want to be friends with them without Crimea.
  8. +4
    11 September 2020 15: 21
    Also ask them to state the political and socio-economic program of the "opposition". Ask them one at a time (and so that the other does not overhear). It will be interesting.
  9. +1
    11 September 2020 15: 23
    Political whores are not sure what to say, either yours or ours ?! laughing It seems like they will be thrown and thrown ?! Did I give to that one? The whole essence of the opposition is in Belarus. There are many protesters there against the "bloody" Father of the Hypozhors, but not a single figure. The pale moth scattered in all directions and their fate is unenviable. All the rot of the protestors here and crawled out.
  10. +6
    11 September 2020 15: 28
    The question is really idiotic. It should sound like this, correspond to modern realities: Since you are in exile in Ukraine, who owns the Republic of Belarus? feel wassat
  11. 0
    11 September 2020 15: 37
    Better to spread the straws.
  12. 0
    11 September 2020 15: 51
    They try to answer evasively the questions of journalists touching upon this moment.

    With Russia you will have to communicate ... Although such are unlikely to be allowed to power. Enough for us and Ukraine.
  13. +4
    11 September 2020 15: 54
    it looks like the guys have not yet fully understood how to behave "in a free, democratic world", they are waiting for many amazing discoveries ...
    1. +1
      11 September 2020 16: 23
      many amazing discoveries await them ...

      that's for sure
  14. -2
    11 September 2020 15: 56
    They are clowns, not oppositionists.
  15. 0
    11 September 2020 16: 41
    In vain they kept silent .... and the answer is simple, like an orange. Crimea belongs to Empress Catherine II !!! .... who "squeezed" it from the Turks in 2. during the fighting .... as they say, the winner takes EVERYTHING!
    1. +1
      11 September 2020 23: 46
      Purely legally, the Crimean Khanate VOLUNTARYLY joined the Russian Empire. How did the Ottoman Empire come to "own" the Crimean Khanate? And how did the Tatars end up on the Crimean peninsula? And whose Lvov? - to whom did Lviv belong until September 1939?
  16. -1
    11 September 2020 17: 10
    [i] Those who left for Ukraine members of the Coordination Council of the opposition of Belarus Anton Rodnenkov and Ivan [/ i]
    And what or who prevents YOU from writing just the TRUTH
    Belarusian oppositionists Kravtsov and Rodnenkov told how they and Kolesnikov expelled from the country
    1. +1
      11 September 2020 17: 52
      Quote: Vitaly Gusin
      Belarusian oppositionists Kravtsov and Rodnenkov told how they and Kolesnikov expelled from the country

      Yes, sort of drove out in their own car. We calmly drove through the checkpoint. I don’t know about you, but from their smug smirks, something is wrong here.
      1. -3
        11 September 2020 18: 32
        Quote: Kurare
        Yes, it seems they left in their own car. Calmly drove through the checkpoint

        The border guard, the border checkpoint and the KGB are all one department in which failure after failure goes in Belarus. First, 33 heroes, then 180 who roam the forests. Then Lukashenka replaced the head of the KGB after this failure, and a new one will definitely be replaced soon.
        Quote: Kurare
        smug smirks, something is wrong.

        So they are not in a pre-trial detention center on a volodarka like Kolesnikova. Look and listen carefully, everything is very clear there. They wanted to do the same with the Nobel Prize Laureate Svetlana Aleksievich, but European diplomats came to her home to prevent her arrest.
        1. +1
          11 September 2020 19: 47
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          They wanted to do the same with the Nobel Prize Laureate Svetlana Aleksievich, but European diplomats came to her home to prevent her arrest.

          Right here they were standing in front of the door and already clicking the handcuffs? Have you brought cookies for the OMON too? laughing
  17. +3
    11 September 2020 17: 28
    The question "Whose Crimea" reminds me of an anecdote:
    -Dad and what is theoretically and practically?
    - Well, look sonny, go to mom, grandparents and ask "they would
    We slept with a black man for a million dollars? "
    Over time.
    - Dad they all said "YES!"
    - Here, son. Theoretically, we have 3 million, but practically - two * women with low social responsibility * (begins with "b") and one * man with an unconventional orientation * (ends with "sa")
    laughing
  18. 0
    11 September 2020 17: 34
    They think, you never know how everything will turn, a not very thoughtful answer can turn against them ...
  19. 0
    11 September 2020 17: 36
    We (they) do not need such opposition!
  20. 0
    11 September 2020 19: 49
    "Rodnenkov also added that the question about Crimea was asked to the wrong address, since he and Kravtsov are not politicians."
    Interesting story. And why are you a nice person getting into politics?
    This question (including) sooner or later, one way or another, you will have to answer.
    And Lukashenko will have to answer. Otherwise, what kind of a Union State are you if you don’t recognize the integrity and indestructibility of borders in the Union?! .. request
  21. +1
    12 September 2020 00: 33
    a bunch of cowards !!!!
    I have already told the moderators, -200 points or more to the author of the article, just how to do it ...
  22. +2
    12 September 2020 01: 50
    Two morons are power.
  23. 0
    12 September 2020 07: 21
    And earlier they would most likely become Komsomol leaders, corrupt.
  24. 0
    12 September 2020 07: 36
    Let's see what they have to say in a month or a year.
  25. 0
    12 September 2020 14: 13