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The DPR Foreign Ministry offers the OSCE and Kiev a joint inspection near Horlivka. There is a question about Pushilin's ultimatum

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A statement by the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Donetsk People's Republic Natalia Nikonorova on the situation near the village of Shuma near Horlivka is being discussed. Natalia Nikonorova offers the OSCE and the Kiev side to conduct a joint inspection of this territory in order to identify the elimination of violations committed by the Ukrainian side. The point is that the armed forces of Ukraine until recently, violating the agreements, created new fortifications near Horlivka. Donetsk demanded their immediate dismantling.


DPR Foreign Minister:

On September 9 at 12:00, we propose to convene an extraordinary meeting of the Contact Group in order to make a decision on the issue of holding a joint inspection of representatives of the Donetsk People's Republic, as well as representatives of Ukraine in the JCCC, with the assistance of the OSCE representatives regarding fixing the elimination of violations committed to advance the positions of the armed formations of Ukraine near the settlement Noises.

According to the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the DPR, the republic has evidence that the Ukrainian side carried out military engineering work, prohibited by measures to control the ceasefire regime.

A request for a joint inspection was sent to the OSCE mission.

According to Nikonorova, the DPR Foreign Ministry hopes that the parties to the process, including the OSCE mediators, realize the importance of maintaining a fragile ceasefire.

In connection with the initiative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Donetsk People's Republic, the question arises of how things will be with the ultimatum put forward by the head of the republic. Let us recall that Denis Pushilin has already twice endured "decisive actions to destroy Ukrainian fortifications" in the area of ​​the village of Shumy. So, in the management of the NM DNR recently announced that the head of the DNR gave the order to start the operation on September 9 at 10:00. But if Natalia Nikonorova proposes to conduct a joint inspection at 12:00, how this fits in with the statements of the DNR UNM and Denis Pushilin, is not entirely clear.

Meanwhile, the Ukrainian media announced that the DPR's "operation" would be "postponed" again.
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  1. Finches
    Finches 9 September 2020 06: 54 New
    0
    Kiev does not need this, he already knows, and the OSCE should receive consultations from the State Department, so they are unlikely to quickly respond to this proposal and are unlikely to respond positively ... So only ... heavy artillery will help restore justice for Donetsk!
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 9 September 2020 07: 05 New
      -9
      The DPR Foreign Ministry offers the OSCE and Kiev a joint inspection near Horlivka. There is a question about Pushilin's ultimatum
      It turns out that clowns live not only in Kiev ... request
      1. Adam Khomich
        Adam Khomich 9 September 2020 08: 12 New
        +2
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        clowns live not only in Kiev.

        They also sometimes appear on the VO website. Here is someone Mavrikiy
        Today, 07:05, NEW CLOWN, is trying to be funny, but the substance is coming out from the Butusov censornet.
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 9 September 2020 08: 24 New
          -6
          Quote: adam khomich
          They also sometimes appear on the VO website.

          I agree. For example, Adam Khomich... Only the clown did not work, but it turned out to be a Ham in pants with straps.
          1. Adam Khomich
            Adam Khomich 9 September 2020 08: 25 New
            -7
            Boo Boo Boo :-)
    2. Clear
      Clear 9 September 2020 07: 16 New
      +5
      Quote: Finches
      Kiev does not need this, he already knows, and the OSCE should receive consultations from the State Department, so they are unlikely to quickly respond to this proposal and are unlikely to respond positively ... So only ... heavy artillery will help restore justice for Donetsk!

      Evgeny, everything is clear about the situation with the OSCE and the State Department.
      But why request
      There is a question about Pushilin's ultimatum
      when
      Foreign Minister: we propose to convene an extraordinary meeting of the Contact Group in order to ... fix eliminating violations committed
      ... Whatever happened later, they say "we eliminated, and we were bombed ..."
      1. Finches
        Finches 9 September 2020 07: 20 New
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        The proposal had to be voiced - it was voiced, realizing that they were unlikely to receive an answer!
        1. Clear
          Clear 9 September 2020 07: 25 New
          +4
          Quote: Finches
          The proposal had to be voiced - it was voiced, realizing that they were unlikely to receive an answer!

          Of course, these demands to Kiev to eliminate violations were first voiced on 28 August. It was about the fact that the Ukrainian military, during the period of the war, erected new engineering structures and advanced their fortifications to the arch of the Seversky Donets - Donbass water conduit (one of the key water communications in the region) with the intention of strengthening under it.
          1. novel66
            novel66 9 September 2020 08: 20 New
            0
            but it will not work to flood them?
          2. Avior
            Avior 9 September 2020 08: 27 New
            +3
            the Ukrainian military, during the period of the war, erected new engineering structures and advanced their fortifications

            It is reliably known that they did not do this, this is documented by the OSCE video recording, reflected in the official report, and Pushilin is well aware of this.
            Work there was carried out before the armistice. Pushilin put himself in a stupid position, now he twists awkwardly
            hi
            1. Clear
              Clear 9 September 2020 08: 51 New
              +2
              Quote: Avior
              Pushilin put himself in a stupid position, now he twists awkwardly

              Better to let them fight clumsiness remotely, so long as they don't shoot.
            2. Normal ok
              Normal ok 9 September 2020 12: 15 New
              -2
              Quote: Avior
              the Ukrainian military, during the period of the war, erected new engineering structures and advanced their fortifications

              It is reliably known that they did not do this, this is documented by the OSCE video recording, reflected in the official report, and Pushilin is well aware of this.
              Work there was carried out before the armistice. Pushilin put himself in a stupid position, now he twists awkwardly
              hi

              The fact is that against the background of the Belarusian events, the curators have slightly forgotten about the LPNR. And this damn money (capitalism rules)! So the MMM-schik reminded that it was time to throw in the loot.
  2. Kerensky
    Kerensky 9 September 2020 07: 07 New
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    I realized that the violations had been eliminated and this should be recorded.
    It's just that the author skillfully hid the meaning.
    1. Clear
      Clear 9 September 2020 07: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: Kerensky
      I realized that the violations had been eliminated and this should be recorded.
      It's just that the author skillfully hid the meaning.

      And again there are links now to DAN, then to VO, then to news feeds of the LPNR, and the farther from the source, the more these
      Quote: Kerensky
      skillfully hid the meaning
      1. Adam Khomich
        Adam Khomich 9 September 2020 08: 06 New
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        Quote: Clear
        the farther from the source

        Is Nazi Biletsky an authoritative source for you?
        So this Bandera-fascist made a form of hysteria over the fact (!) Of destruction by punitive forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with their own hands dug trenches and fortifications in the gray zone. I will not quote this non-human again, there is a lot of honor for a Nazi.
        1. Clear
          Clear 9 September 2020 08: 12 New
          +5
          Adam, you yourself claim that
          Quote: adam khomich
          I will not quote this non-human again, a lot of honor for a Nazi.
          and you are asking me
          Quote: adam khomich
          Is Nazi Biletsky an authoritative source for you?
          To answer you the same, not
          "filtering the bazaar"
          ??
          1. Adam Khomich
            Adam Khomich 9 September 2020 08: 17 New
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            Well, you doubt the reliability of information from DAN and VO?
            I assumed that you trust the fascists and Nazis more and therefore referred to the hysteria of the Nazi girl Bilecki.
            1. Clear
              Clear 9 September 2020 08: 25 New
              +2
              Quote: adam khomich
              I assumed that you trust the fascists and Nazis more and therefore referred to the hysteria of the Nazi girl Bilecki.

              I assure you that you are mistaken.

              Quote: adam khomich
              Well, you doubt the reliability of information from DAN and VO?
              Well, for this you need to find the primary source to check with the latest publication.
              1. Adam Khomich
                Adam Khomich 9 September 2020 08: 34 New
                -5
                Quote: Clear
                need to find the source

                Type in the search "hysterics of the Nazi girl Bilecki" and get a direct speech of this bandit.
                1. Clear
                  Clear 9 September 2020 08: 45 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Adam Khomich
                  Quote: Clear
                  need to find the source

                  Type in the search "hysterics of the Nazi girl Bilecki" and get a direct speech of this bandit.

                  Link does not open.
                  In your opinion, DAN and the hot news feeds of the LPNR are the mouthpieces of the Banderaites? I don't understand, Adam request
              2. Adam Khomich
                Adam Khomich 9 September 2020 08: 47 New
                -4
                Quote: Clear
                for this you need to find the original source

                “The authorities had to respond to these threats with firmness. Bring the troops to a state of heightened combat readiness, bring up artillery and tank reserves. Instead, the "doves of peace" urgently call the TCG. The command orders to fill up the trenches near the positions. What Zelensky is doing now is humiliation of the army and the whole country. ”(Nazi Biletsky)
                1. Clear
                  Clear 9 September 2020 08: 54 New
                  +2
                  Quote: adam khomich
                  . (Nazi Biletsky)

                  My attitude to Biletsky? Rope!
                  1. Adam Khomich
                    Adam Khomich 9 September 2020 09: 04 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Clear
                    Rope!

                    The trial, the verdict and its execution "in the image and likeness" as above Uncle Sophia Loren suits me more :-)
      2. novel66
        novel66 9 September 2020 08: 22 New
        +3
        Can't you launch a drone there? everything will be visible. Lady my compliments love
        1. Clear
          Clear 9 September 2020 08: 47 New
          +2
          Quote: novel xnumx
          Can't you launch a drone there? everything will be visible. Lady my compliments love

          Good morning, Roman love
          Spend a drone on them? Enough balloon yes
        2. Normal ok
          Normal ok 9 September 2020 12: 18 New
          -1
          Quote: novel xnumx
          Can't you launch a drone there? everything will be visible. Lady my compliments love

          So a long time ago, everything was filmed. Can be found in the net. It's just that Pushilin once again disgraced himself.
          1. novel66
            novel66 9 September 2020 12: 31 New
            -1
            this one is in vain lol it was not necessary
  3. Egoza
    Egoza 9 September 2020 07: 09 New
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    OSCE and Kiev with inspection near Horlivka? Why are they bad to go there? Still some "patriotic" drunken battalion will cover with fire ..... no, they will threaten with a finger from afar.
  4. sleeve
    sleeve 9 September 2020 07: 26 New
    +3
    No ultimatum questions. Pushilin is being pressured to the full to convert everything into a no-firing variation. Now, against the general background, it is no longer necessary to hand over to the West a concrete "fact of Russia's aggression". After all, no one doubts that apart from us, the DPR and the Ukrainian army on the line, they don't know about the ultimatum. But the work of the "acacia" division will be highlighted from all angles. No questions about ultimatum. People are tired of being held by the hands and tired of understanding that we cannot do otherwise. We can't yet ...
  5. Avior
    Avior 9 September 2020 07: 44 New
    +2
    According to the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the DPR, the republic has evidence that the Ukrainian side carried out military engineering work, prohibited by measures to control the ceasefire regime.

    A request for a joint inspection was sent to the OSCE mission.

    Does Pushilin know that the OSCE has long considered this accusation and there is an official response to it in the mission's report of September 5? There was no work there after July 5 - the conclusion of an armistice. This is confirmed by video footage of the OSCE from unmanned aerial vehicles, there are regular overflights. Ii Pushilin knows this very well.
    Based on the analysis of aerial surveillance data for the period from December 21, 2019 to September 2, 2020 in the area of ​​N. Shumy (government-controlled, 41 km north of Donetsk), a 25-meter extension of the trench has been identified at the existing positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces (visible in the pictures even before July 5, 2020). Since July 5, 2020, no changes have been recorded in this area.

    https://www.osce.org/files/2020-09-05_Daily%20Report_RUS.pdf
    Why he needed to raise all these "shelling" with constant date postponements is difficult to understand.
    It is clear that he will be afraid to shoot.
    Is that in order to distract people from the cheerless results of his rule?
    Or because recently there have been several dead and wounded from the Ukrainian side from remote-launching mines and small arms and there is a threat to break the truce - so he decided to raise a fuss?
    You also need to raise the noise wisely ...
  6. Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich 9 September 2020 07: 47 New
    -6
    These "toad strips" of Trupchinov in the gray zone will crawl out to Kuyva through all the cracks and holes in which everyone has them - the owners regularly, and the LPR militia periodically and systematically :-)
    1. Adam Khomich
      Adam Khomich 9 September 2020 09: 07 New
      -3
      adam khomich (adam khomich) 2 Today, 07:47 -4
      Total is minus 4! Where are the rest of the sofa warriors of the world? Disorder.
      1. Kronos
        Kronos 9 September 2020 11: 09 New
        +3
        In my opinion, the sofa is only you, hurray patriot.
        1. Adam Khomich
          Adam Khomich 9 September 2020 12: 28 New
          -2
          Quote: Kronos
          cheers patriot

          Why did you expose me so harshly :-)?
          Now I will not be able to press any bukaffki on the keyboard without consulting the "hurray patriot center". What do I do now? How can I continue to live on a $ 500 pension with a predatory payment for housing and communal services + TV and the Internet at $ 45. Maybe a $ 50 dollar pension to go to the outskirts? By the way, I retired at the age of 39.
  7. BAI
    BAI 9 September 2020 08: 56 New
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    Meanwhile, the Ukrainian media announced that the DPR's "operation" would be "postponed" again.

    It is already clear that it will not be.
    In the Middle Ages, the issue was solved in an elementary way. A container with shit is taken, loaded into the catapult, and forth. You don't have to destroy anything. Throw a few tones of shit in there - they themselves will leave. Shit shouldn't be a problem - the sewers are destroyed in many places.
  8. Serval
    Serval 9 September 2020 09: 11 New
    -2
    Neither the OSCE nor Kiev will go to a joint inspection.
    I think we need to change the wording of the ultimatum.
    These are:
    The ultimatum of the head of the DPR on the withdrawal of the armed formations of Ukraine from the territory of the Republic.
    ....
    In case of failure to meet the requirements ... (and hereinafter in the text).
  9. APASUS
    APASUS 9 September 2020 09: 45 New
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    All these inspections of trenches, the creation of commissions over commissions, can be carried out forever, which in fact is of great interest to the Ukrainian side.
  10. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 9 September 2020 10: 08 New
    +1
    Here are the talkers, and who will take their ultimatums seriously now?
  11. Radikal
    Radikal 10 September 2020 01: 27 New
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    .
    So, in the management of the NM DNR recently announced that the head of the DNR gave the order to start the operation on September 9 at 10:00. But if Natalia Nikonorova proposes to conduct a joint inspection at 12:00, how this fits in with the statements of the DNR UNM and Denis Pushilin, is not entirely clear.
    Not approved in Moscow .... sad