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Austria approves sale of EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon fighters to Indonesia, Su-35 issue remains open

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Austria approves sale of EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon fighters to Indonesia, Su-35 issue remains open

Indonesia may purchase Eurofighter Typhoon EF-2000 fighters instead of Russian Su-35s. According to VIVA, Austrian Defense Minister Claudia Tanner has approved the sale of fighters from the country's Air Force to Jakarta.


The head of the Austrian military department, Claudia Tanner, responded positively to a letter from Indonesian Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto, in which he requested the sale of 15 EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon fighters from the Austrian Air Force. Tanner said Vienna is ready to work with Jakarta and hold the necessary negotiations to approve a potential fighter sale. At the same time, the Austrian General Staff received an order to prepare a deal.

The fact that the Indonesian Minister of Defense sent a letter to the Austrian Ministry of Defense became known in July this year. In a letter to Prabovo, Subianto offered Austria to sell 15 EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon fighters to Indonesia, which are not operated in the country's Air Force due to a corruption scandal, and their sale opens up opportunities for both sides to "solve their own problems." The Austrian Air Force plans to write off these fighters, starting this year.

The Indonesian Air Force intends to replace the existing F-5 fighters with new aircraft. To this end, Jakarta signed a contract for the purchase of 11 Russian Su-35s, but the contract is currently "frozen", mainly due to US pressure. In Indonesia itself, there are both opponents of the purchase of Russian aircraft, and those supporting this deal.

Most likely, if Indonesia signs a contract for Austrian fighters, the deal for the Russian Su-35 will be canceled. While the issue with the Su-35 remains open.

Recall that the contract for the acquisition by Indonesia of 11 Su-35 fighters was signed on February 14, 2018 in Jakarta. The contract value is $ 1,154 billion, of which 50% ($ 570 million) is covered by counter deliveries of Indonesian goods (which actually should not have been delivered to Russia, but sold on the international market).
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  1. Andylw
    Andylw 8 September 2020 12: 53 New
    +7
    Well, sanctions are only good for us, right?
    1. d4rkmesa
      d4rkmesa 8 September 2020 13: 09 New
      10
      And then. Otherwise, they would have been overwhelmed by a low-quality palm tree.
  2. ved_med12
    ved_med12 8 September 2020 12: 54 New
    0
    I wonder how much "compensation" payments will be in favor of the Russian Federation under an already concluded agreement?
    1. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 8 September 2020 14: 06 New
      +1
      Palm oil is not a pity to compensate, it will grow even more. And that our agreement is covered, then my stomach will only benefit. Although our cunning cheesemakers will find a loophole to push through this muck. And you can hardly find sausage without chicken.
      1. ved_med12
        ved_med12 8 September 2020 15: 42 New
        +4
        Sympathize with you!
        Only, I don't quite understand, "there is a contract, it's bad, there is no contract, it's also bad" ... How do you live in general?
  3. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 8 September 2020 13: 00 New
    -1
    Most likely, if Indonesia signs a contract for Austrian fighters, the deal for the Russian Su-35 will be canceled.

    The author understands for sure that he is comparing the newly built Su-35 and used Typhoons, which flew off for 10-15 years, on which the Captor radar stands (by the way, it is not AFAR)
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 8 September 2020 14: 01 New
      +4
      Quote: Cyril G ...
      used Typhoons flying away for 10-15 years

      These Typhoons have 2/3 more resources. But this modification is the most beggarly, it seems the worst of all Typhoons. There is no sense in them without modernization, only to shoot down passenger aircraft.
      The Austrians will give up the Typhoons anyway. There are talks about the purchase of M-346, Gripens JAS 39C / D, upgraded used F16

      “It was necessary to stop the excessive spending on Eurofighter, which does not have all the capabilities required for our sovereign aerial surveillance,” Austrian Defense Minister Doskozil said in 2017, before announcing that “Eurofighter in Austrian service is history!”
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 8 September 2020 16: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: Grazdanin
        But this modification is the most beggarly, it seems the worst of all Typhoons.

        The Austrians have Captor with SHAR as far as I remember ..
        Quote: Grazdanin
        “It was necessary to stop the excessive spending on Eurofighter, which does not have all the capabilities required for our sovereign aerial surveillance,” Austrian Defense Minister Doskozil said in 2017, before announcing that “Eurofighter in Austrian service is history!”


        Yes, I am aware that the Austrians have long wanted to get rid of them ...
    2. Charik
      Charik 8 September 2020 14: 06 New
      +1
      Where does the author compare these planes?
  4. Avior
    Avior 8 September 2020 13: 14 New
    +5
    The Su-35 turns out to be more expensive than the F-35.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 8 September 2020 13: 20 New
      +6
      F16V is already more expensive than F35A. The unit price of the F35A dropped below $ 100 million.
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 8 September 2020 13: 55 New
      -5
      But you can use it however you want, and not only at Fashington's permission.
  5. Tuzik
    Tuzik 8 September 2020 13: 32 New
    -2
    themselves without pants? Austrians have only 15 fighters =)
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 8 September 2020 13: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Tuzik
      Austrians have only 15 fighters =)

      Really. No more fighters fellow
    2. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 8 September 2020 14: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Tuzik
      themselves without pants?

      They want to replace Typhoons with something from M-346, Gripens JAS 39C / D, upgraded used F16
    3. garik77
      garik77 8 September 2020 14: 08 New
      +1
      Do the Austrians really need them? The terrible putn on Austria is not going to attack. A neutral country in the center of Europe can completely abandon the army in favor of the police forces, it will only benefit from it
      1. unhappy
        unhappy 9 September 2020 09: 54 New
        0
        A sovereign country with no army belay
        Nonsense!
        1. garik77
          garik77 9 September 2020 15: 10 New
          0
          Who should they fight with? If only the refugees get the better of it, but there are more likely to need police batons than tanks and planes. Well, if it's only purely for the sake of prestige to keep the army, our Schaub is no worse than our neighbors
        2. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 11 September 2020 12: 00 New
          0
          Quote: unhappy
          A sovereign country with no army belay
          Nonsense!

          This is NATO. We need to have an army of a million and NATO countries are enough for 100 thousand and two ships and a dozen aircraft. Plus they have no need to build and maintain military factories in each country, the military-industrial complex is centralized and always loaded
  6. paul3390
    paul3390 8 September 2020 13: 54 New
    +5
    which in fact should not have been delivered to Russia, but sold on the international market

    In general, I don't understand this shnyaga - if the product is liquid, then who prevents the Indonesians from selling it themselves and we pay with money ?? Some kind of Gonevo - it looks like the whole palm tree would end up in our stomachs ... So it's better that we didn't buy it - we'll be healthier.
  7. garik77
    garik77 8 September 2020 14: 05 New
    -3
    Ours did not want to receive payment for aircraft with palm oil (firewood, coconut husks and other skunk manure), hence the problems.
    1. Avior
      Avior 8 September 2020 17: 05 New
      +2
      They agreed, about only half.
      I wonder if the Austrians are money or butter?
      1. garik77
        garik77 9 September 2020 15: 08 New
        0
        Something doubtful that the Austrians will agree to palm oil.
    2. garik77
      garik77 9 September 2020 15: 12 New
      0
      And why minus something? What's wrong? Had the Russian Federation agreed to pay in full with a palm tree, they would have ordered a couple more squadrons!
  8. Charik
    Charik 8 September 2020 14: 05 New
    0
    I mean, stormy Typhoons want to smoke?
  9. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 8 September 2020 14: 06 New
    +1
    Austrian Typhoons were produced in Germany in the early 2000s. They are already out of date.
    The new Su-35s are much more modern.
    And Typhoons are very expensive to operate. Getting spare parts is a problem.
    1. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 8 September 2020 20: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Austrian Typhoons were produced in Germany in the early 2000s. They are already out of date.
      The new Su-35s are much more modern.
      And Typhoons are very expensive to operate. Getting spare parts is a problem.


      The deal is under the patronage of Airbus.
      And this is no accident.
      I think that Airbus promised in a separate contract a problem-free supply of spare parts ...
  10. Pavel57
    Pavel57 8 September 2020 14: 31 New
    0
    Apparently the Indonesians rested, any plane is just not American.
    1. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 8 September 2020 20: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Pavel57
      Apparently the Indonesians rested, any plane is just not American.

      Which did not stop them from buying American Apaches ...
  11. SovAr238A
    SovAr238A 8 September 2020 20: 01 New
    +4
    Oh damn ...

    Well, we saw all our uryakalok-changers ...
    Who from 2014 to 2020 wrote about the fact that Indonesia will definitely buy the Su-35 from us.
    That she has nowhere to go.

    And the fact that palm oil is almost 70% of the contract value is bullshit.
    We will sell on the stock exchange. we get cash dollars and everything will be fine.
    Or about that. that the factory workers will receive money, not oil, and that all thousands of subcontractors and almost hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people who participate in all production chains, starting from manufacturers of bukdozers and excavators that pull alumina, from which they will receive aluminum, and so on in all areas - they will also receive part of the money from the contract for these aircraft ...

    And now what do we read from these uryakalok who changed their shoes on the fly? A standard set of text, as in the manuals: "we don't need palm oil, we will be healthier, we will keep our stomachs" ...
    And who writes this - where ctqxfc are your thoughts about the salary for hundreds of thousands of people ???

    All uryakalka are methodical - they never have brains!
    Have they been told to run? and screaming hurray? They run and scream!
    Has the situation changed? They unfold and alga! Hooray again!

    Just like in that KVN joke ...
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 11 September 2020 12: 06 New
      0
      If you dump that amount of oil on the stock exchange, the prices for it will fall, because not only Indonesia trades there, barter is the most outdated type of settlement.