Minsk began preparations for reorienting cargo to Russian ports

Belarus has begun preparations for the transfer of export flows of Belarusian oil products from Lithuanian ports to Russia. This was announced by the press secretary of "Belneftekhim" Alexander Tishchenko.

According to Tishchenko, the concern has begun preparations for negotiations to reorient oil exports from Lithuanian ports to Russian ones. Commenting on the statement of the Minister of Energy of Russia Alexander Novak, he said that meetings and negotiations of the Russian and Belarusian sides are expected in the near future.

On the transfer of oil flows, I can confirm that such work is planned. Meetings and necessary contacts are expected in the near future. Detailing will be available based on their results

- quotes the press service of the words of Tishchenko.

Earlier, the Russian minister said that Moscow would soon assess the possibility of reorienting the transshipment of oil products from the Baltic states to Russian ports. According to him, this issue is already being worked out, work is underway.

This work has begun, it is going on. I think that it will also be completed in the coming weeks. Also in September, yes. There is an assignment in order to quickly complete this work. Here we are talking about a contractual relationship so that it is mutually beneficial

- said Novak, adding that "there are free capacities" for transshipment of Belarusian oil, Russia estimates the potential at 3-4 million tons.

It should be noted that today the main volume of export cargoes for Belarus arriving by sea is transshipped through the port of the Lithuanian Klaipeda. If Minsk agrees with Moscow on reorienting cargo traffic to Russian ports, Lithuania will lose a significant part of its income, which will ultimately lead to a further decline in Lithuanian ports, which are not overloaded with work.

Comments

[Rostislav]

The beginning is right. The main thing is to bring the matter to a practical result. And fast.

[Insurgent]

Minsk began preparations for reorienting cargo to Russian ports

The Good Way to the Good Deed

[Thrall]

Of course, I am a layman in oil refining and export of Belarusian oil products.
But the logistics of oil pipelines in Belarus does not facilitate a quick reorientation.

Map of main gas pipelines and oil pipelines. The largest gas pipelines are marked in red. Compressor stations (CS) and underground gas storage facilities (UGS) signed

I am generally silent about the western and southern directions (Mozyr Oil Refinery), and the northern (Novopolotsk Oil Refinery) is focused exclusively on Lithuania and Latvia.
It won't be easy ...

[Brturin]

Quote: Thrall

Map of the main gas pipelines and oil pipelines.

These are oil pipelines, and the issue is in the transportation of oil products, so that you need a map of the so-called product lines (through which diesel is pumped, etc.) or supplies go by rail - in 2014 - "Belarusian Oil Company and Lithuanian Railways signed 3 -year contract for the supply of petroleum products ... "... and for the Polotsk-Ventspils oil pipeline there are still courts because of the oil downloaded by the Balts

[iouris]

But this is not forever, but only until the war is over.

[Campanella]

Of course, when the Baltic countries return to their home harbor, everything will end.

[Gene84]

Quote: iouris

until the war is over.

The "war" will not end soon. The West will not calm down and wither away in connection with the loss of such a good foothold.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Belarus, of course, will lose the "fat" from oil products, removing transit from hostile neighbors. But Russia, I am convinced, will not let the syabr go to waste by transferring them to transparent supply schemes instead of clever ones at the expense of Russia. Both Russia and Belarus will benefit from the union. And the West and the Balts will lose, once again missing!

[Rostislav]

Belarus does not export oil, only gasoline and diesel. And these are other pipelines. And most of the port loading is provided by Beloruskali, so oil pipelines have nothing to do with it.

[Civil]

Well, that's the end of the famous "Belarusian" seafood)

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Civil

Well, that's the end of the famous "Belarusian" seafood)

Why? Their Latvia with Lithuania through the Republic of Belarus to the Russian Federation, or what delivered?

[Vend]

Quote: Rostislav

The beginning is right. The main thing is to bring the matter to a practical result. And fast.

An unpleasant surprise for the Balts, this is not Ukraine. This is Belarus. I think he will, and when the Balts tearfully ask to condescend, but set conditions, harsh conditions.

[Safevi2020]

Quote: Rostislav

The beginning is right. The main thing is to bring the matter to a practical result. And fast.

But at the moment they are using the Odessa port.

[Gene84]

Quote: Rostislav

The beginning is right. The main thing is to bring the matter to a practical result. And fast.

In this case, they will bring it. It can't be otherwise

[Doccor18]

Belarus is more and more dependent on Russia. When will come that glorious day of the final unification of the two fraternal peoples ..

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Doccor18

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Belarus is more and more dependent on Russia. When will come that glorious day of the final unification of the two fraternal peoples ..

And this glorious day depends to a large extent on Russia.

[Gene84]

Quote: tihonmarine

And this glorious day depends to a large extent on Russia.

From the citizens of Russia and Belarus.

[Sergey Nikiforov]

Have you read the latest VTsIOM poll.? Half of Russians are against unification, and 22% have not yet decided. And the opinion of Belarusians does not interest you.? Do they want it.?

[Sergey Obraztsov]

Well, Lukashenka now has nowhere else to go. The transit of power in Belarus, I hope, is not far off. But until that moment, let him do whatever he wants, but plows for the geopolitical interests of the Russian Federation. He is working out, so to speak, all Russian subsidies to his economy over the years.

[Mishanya 74]

And how do you think the people of Belarus will react to this?

[Adam Khomich]

Quote: Mishanya74

the people of Belarus will react

Of course, we are interested in the opinion of oil traders, dockers of the ports of the Belarusian Sea, fishermen, owners of oyster and shrimp farms, producers of Dutch cheese and Polish apples, as well as other segments of the population of Belarus.

[Mishanya 74]

That is, you are not at all interested in certain people of Belarus ..
Only Luca will leave ..
And the memory of the people will remain about how Russia reacted to him

[Roman070280]

Nobody thinks about the people .. neither we nor they need it ..
But the government decides its issues in this field ..

[Mishanya 74]

Power can be legitimate and not ..
Lukashenka is illegitimate in Belarus.
And we, taking advantage of this position, want to fuck the whole of Belarus ..
Will this benefit us? I strongly doubt

[strannik1985]

Lukashenko is illegitimate in Belarus

Because it is the main democrat declared?

[Mishanya 74]

This is the people of Belarus declare every day

[strannik1985]

And for a long time we have representatives of the opposition personify the whole people?

[Mishanya 74]

Yes, there are all the people in opposition

[strannik1985]

Who is all? Even the opposition themselves call the figure about a million people, the population of the Republic of Belarus is 9,4 million.

[Rostislav]

Yes of course. Minsk dwellers are tired of being able to walk around a clean, well-groomed and safe city, not being afraid to return home late at night and not making 2-week stocks of food, because the stores always have everything. Did you want an adrenaline, like the neighbors 404?
How long does it sit? This is because it controls sensibly. It is necessary to change the leadership in the presence of 2 conditions, necessary and sufficient:
not because he was "too late", but, firstly, when management efficiency falls; and secondly, when there is a successor with sufficient management experience.
It is necessary to explain how many soldiers will survive if a sergeant is in command of a corps or a division?
Because those who push the housewife into power are either provocateurs or complete imbeciles.
There is a bell. The fact that Luka allowed such a rampage on the streets just means that the quality of management is getting worse. Now Russia needs to attend to the second conditions for the change of power to comply - to prepare a sensible successor. God forbid the second "Yanukovych" will come out.

[Sergey Nikiforov]

In Belarus, when was the last time.? And how many months did you live there.?

[Gene84]

Quote: strannik1985

Because it is the main democrat declared?

Yeah. And some Western protests confirmed

[Roman070280]

And we, taking advantage of this position, want to fuck the whole of Belarus.

Not we, but the Kremlin .. We ourselves will also introduce a new tax for this case .. "For the restoration of brotherly Belarus", for example ..

[Mishanya 74]

* we * are a little better ... How many people were here who wanted to put pressure on the tracks and wind up those who took to the streets in Belarus against Lukashenka

[Gene84]

Quote: Mishanya74

Lukashenka is illegitimate in Belarus.

An old song about the main thing ... Yes, he is nimble, but Lukashenko is the legitimate president of Belarus. The majority of the population voted for Lukashenka.

[Gene84]

Quote: Roman070280

neither we nor they need it

What exactly do you not need? Union? But you are not all people.

[Campanella]

The people will approve of the union with Russia!

[Gene84]

Quote: Mishanya74

And how do you think the people of Belarus will react to this?

We think. And I'll tell you what: the people of Belarus support the striving of our countries to unite

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mishanya74

And how do you think the people of Belarus will react to this?

Well, you yourself and ask the people of Belarus what they think. I personally know what my relatives in Minsk and Vitebsk think.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

I completely agree with you. I really want us to unite.

[Livonetc]

This is most likely the attitude of the people of the Republic of Belarus.
And we think about them.
We think very well.

[Mishanya 74]

Just unite then you and Lukashenko ..
Who seized power contrary to the opinion of the people ..
Would such a union be a source of problems?

[Pereira]

They will create problems for us. Both from the outside and from the inside.

[Mishanya 74]

This is how we create them ourselves ..

[Gene84]

Quote: Mishanya74

This is how we create them ourselves ..

So don't create problems for yourself. Live in peace, think about the future, and don't trust Hollywood.

[Gene84]

Quote: Pereira

They will create problems for us. Both from the outside and from the inside.

And now we have no problems from outside and from within? Worse than now, because of the Union with Belarus will not be.

[Mishanya 74]

There will be ... I assure you ... 90% will be like with Ukraine ..

[alexmach]

Just unite then you and Lukashenko ..

Who was it with? With those oppositionists who have already announced their withdrawal from the Union State, the CSTO and even the useless CIS and joining NATO?

[Mishanya 74]

Who declared it?

[Campanella]

Mishan, well, you are like a child, by God!
Belarus will have problems if it does not unite with Russia, but such that the old man will be remembered as the brightest spot in life.

[Gene84]

Quote: Mishanya74

Lukashenko

Lukashenko, Lukashenko ... Why are you so obsessed with him? One should think about the future, not about Lukashenka. Something I have vague suspicions about you ...

[Gene84]

Quote: Mishanya74

Who seized power contrary to the opinion of the people ..

Well, you fucking give. Still not tired of repeating this heresy?

[cat Rusich]

Mikhail, maybe the people of Belarus will remember how much $ was "invested" (donated) to Belarus by Russia - discounts on gas, "loans" (will you give it back?) ..., and in response - "multi-vector policy."

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Mishanya74

Just unite then you and Lukashenko ..

Mouse! Stop writing Svido Maidan nonsense! Sha, Misha. Tanks in the hallway!

[Gene84]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

I really want us to unite.

The unification of the two fraternal peoples is inevitable. Hopefully we'll see it soon.

[AllBiBek]

Everyone will benefit from this.
In addition to the leadership of Belarusian industrial and agricultural enterprises. Since, with joint logistics, they will no longer be needed, and far from all will be left at the trough when pouring into Russian state corporations.
Do you think they understand this or not?
And if they understand, then what actions are they planning and will be done when this option begins to be implemented?
The current "maydanchik" will seem like childish babble when the elites take for the most sore spot - that is, for the wallet - they fight to the last, viciously, meanly, and fiercely. And mercilessly, especially towards the people.
Khodarkovsky alone is worth something.
And Kolomoisky is in the neighboring country.

[Campanella]

This is where Lukashenka will be in place. You are in vain afraid of none of this.

[Gene84]

Quote: Doccor18

When will come that glorious day of the final unification of the two fraternal peoples ..

Soon. You will see, in the next maximum of three to four years (I hope so).

[rocket757]

It looks like bam "the sight has been corrected! And from multi-vector, its neighbors will cure it anyway !!!

[Gene84]

Quote: rocket757

And from the multi-vector, his neighbors will cure it anyway !!!

I think he has already been cured. He realized all the wrongness of his behavior.

[rocket757]

The treatment is going well, it seems ... if they were not joking, but father said that he had stayed too long at the post !!! Amazing metamorphoses sometimes happen.

[smart ass]

Why didn't it happen before?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Clever man

Why didn't it happen before?

"Do not count your chickens before they are hatched", and"Each vegetable has its own time"

So everything came together, and autumn came, and vegetables in one basket, it's time to put them ...

[smart ass]

But what about the union state and love to the grave?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Clever man

But what about the union state and love to the grave?

And "one basket", common, is it not the Union State?

[smart ass]

They just started talking about the basket, but how old is the union state?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Clever man

They just started talking about the basket, but how old is the union state?

The project of the Union State, did you want to write? For there is no real Union yet. Now only progress has been outlined ...

[smart ass]

Until the mustachioed bells were not pinched too much, he wanted a union state

[Romka]

Because someone has "tough nuts" in the grip of popular discontent.

[alexmach]

Why didn't it happen before?

Because we are talking about oil purchased by Belarus somewhere specifically in spite of Russia, which did not want to make concessions on prices for the same pipeline oil ... Now this "peak" oil in spite of Lithuania will be transported through Russia, while the transport shoulder is from Ust-Luga more Russia will probably subsidize this transportation. Not to mention the fact that Ust-Luga, in general, should work mainly for loading oil into tankers and not for receiving it .. Importing oil through Russian ports, in theory, should be a hassle from a technical point of view.

As they said about Yanukovosch in Ukraine, "the last one."

PS: Although of course we could just arrange a "swap" for them. Oil to be delivered through a pipeline and unloaded from tankers somewhere in Europe ... Stop ... so it seems that it could again get into this very Klaipeda

[Cube123]

Quote: alexmach

PS: Although of course we could just arrange a "swap" for them. Oil to be delivered through a pipeline and unloaded from tankers somewhere in Europe ... Stop ... so it seems that it could again get into this very Klaipeda

Or to Kaliningrad. You also need to carry there.

[tihonmarine]

If Minsk agrees with Moscow to reorient cargo traffic to Russian ports, Lithuania will lose a significant part of its income,

But it will take more than one month, bureaucracy is a brake on progress.

[FenH]

Quote: tihonmarine

But it will take more than one month, bureaucracy is a brake on progress.

This work has begun, it is going on. I think that also in over the coming weeks it It will be completed.

Also in September

, Yes. There is an assignment in order to quickly complete this work... Here we are talking about a contractual relationship so that it is mutually beneficial

The command is given, they will not slow down

[tihonmarine]

Quote: FenH

The command is given, they will not slow down

We'll believe it, but let's see how it goes.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

You're right. Quite right.

[Brturin]

Quote: tihonmarine

But it will take more than one month, bureaucracy is a brake on progress.

If a decision of principle that suits both parties is made, it will go to work, but not only bureaucracy - in 2019 Klaipeda is only 46,2 million tons, of which 14,1 million tons are Belarusian.

Novak, adding that there is "free capacity" for transshipment of Belarusian oil, Russia estimates the potential at 3-4 million tons.

even if 3,5 million tons is 25% of 14,1 million tons of Belarusian cargo, a tasty morsel is 9,8 million tons of "Belaruskali" bureaucracy, of course, but they have large investments in the terminal of Klaipeda ...

[Sergey Obraztsov]

The European Union refused to finance the modernization of Latvian ports. Freight traffic in the ports of Latvia in the first half of 2020 decreased by a third, and transit - by half. Back in 2019, the Jamestown Fund stated that volumes were falling. In Riga, cargo turnover in the first nine months of 2019 decreased by 8,7%.

If now Belarus also leaves ... Mmm ... Russophobia is becoming a very expensive commodity. As it should be.

[Ascold1901]

Right. After all, they have nothing to take out of their own!))) Russophobic nonsense can be taken out via the Internet)))

[Sergey Obraztsov]

You can, of course, but the contribution to GDP from this, well, it turns out very modest :)

[Ascold1901]

But, on the same Internet, they get the approval of Uncle Sam)))) And the opportunity to feed NATO soldiers))))

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sergey Obraztsov

If now also Belarus leaves.

It will leave Lithuania, there is little Belarusian cargo traffic in Latvia.

[AllBiBek]

So they decided it even before the Maidan attempt in Belarus, at the beginning of summer.
The conclusion suggests itself that this scenario was foreseen ahead of time, as it was expected that there would be an attempt by the orange in Belarus, which would be inflated from Lithuania and Poland (where else?).
In general, such a beautiful geopolitical gambit, the European Union still won, because they got rid of some of the Baltic parasites.
I wonder how they will get rid of the Hyenas? Usually, Russians and Germans traditionally went through its territory to fight each other, but this time such a scenario is unlikely.
Most likely, they will do it in such a way that digging Kachinsky is not needed.

[imrek_ua]

This is all great, of course. Yes, only once again will hit the ordinary citizens of Lithuania. I’m wondering if Lithuanian politicians, when they talk with their tongues, or are they welcomed any "revolutionaries", think about their voters? Or the main thing is to please the owner?

[zadorin1974]

Good Sasha. When the salary of Lithuanian politicians depends on the voters, then maybe they will remember.

[Roman070280]

The salary of Putin and Medvedev definitely depends on us ..))
Yes, and Lukashenka too ..))

[Roman070280]

Yes, just one more time will hit for ordinary citizens of Lithuania.

Well, but once again we are in Russia easier will become ..))

[imrek_ua]

Will it become? In my opinion, it is a big mistake to think: "If the neighbors are worse, then we are better." A simple example. In 2014, in Ukraine, neighboring Russia, the standard of living of the majority of citizens fell sharply (we are not talking about any rabble that has reached the trough). Is life better for the citizens of Russia? The question is rhetorical. I think that you yourself know the answer.

[AllBiBek]

They have two concerns, to prove that the Russians are to blame for everything (and in Russian and to the Russian-speaking electorate), and to beg for more subsidies from the EU or the United States (for their beloved).
On the problems of the problematic electorate, they are all the same, all those who are adequate and able-bodied for a long time in Europe on rough work, send money to the country - and okay, nothing else is required of them.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: imrek_ua

This is all great, of course. Yes, only once again will hit the ordinary citizens of Lithuania. I’m wondering if Lithuanian politicians, when they talk with their tongues, or are they welcomed any "revolutionaries", think about their voters? Or the main thing is to please the owner?

They think about freedom and democracy.
The last time they thought so, they decisively abandoned the totalitarian Russian gas sold on unfair take-or-pay terms - and signed an agreement with the Norwegians for the supply of LNG ... according to the same formula (more precisely, with a minimum annual volume , which must be paid regardless of whether Lithuania chose it or not). Taking into account the need to rent a floating terminal, the gas turned out to be golden. And when it turned out that private traders still buy totalitarian gas from the pipe (the market decided ©), then the government began to seriously consider the question of how oblige private owners to buy LNG.

[Gene84]

Quote: imrek_ua

I'm wondering if Lithuanian politicians, when they talk with their tongues, or are they welcomed any "revolutionaries", think about their voters?

Not. They have no time to think about their citizens. They have a task from the Master - to raise and support Russophobia.

[APASUS]

Ours would not be stingy now and would give the Belarusians a discount or a grace period on transshipment prices so that it would be profitable for the Belarusians too, and then the questions would be closed by themselves.

[Sergey Obraztsov]

I completely agree. And in order not to lose their own, it is necessary to ban the import of Belarusian shrimps.

[KCA]

Shrimp and other products, I think, they imported quite officially and legally, bought raw frozen shrimp, boiled it, frozen it, as it were, a processed product.
PySy - all our shrimps are sold boiled, raw, like crayfish, have an unpleasant green-brown color

[alexmach]

Ours would not be stingy now and would give the Belarusians a discount or a grace period on transshipment prices so that it would be profitable for the Belarusians too, and then the questions would be closed by themselves.

Yes, yes .. a discount. For transshipment from oil tankers? The same one purchased somewhere out there in spite of Moscow, which did not make concessions to Lukashenka.

[APASUS]

Quote: alexmach

Yes, yes .. a discount. For transshipment from oil tankers? The same one purchased somewhere out there in spite of Moscow, which did not make concessions to Lukashenka.

Well, yes, it was not a problem to supply Ukraine with diesel, but what happens to Belarusians to pump oil?

[AllBiBek]

Where is it more profitable?

[gurzuf]

sehr gut !!!

[aszzz888]

Well what can I say. Some of the Tribals were showing up. Others in line.

"In the queue, you sons of bitches, in the queue!"

(C)

[Mishanya 74]

I'm just wondering what kind of oil Belarus gets through the Baltic states .. Whose is it, this oil

[Adam Khomich]

Quote: Mishanya74

and what kind of oil does Belarus get through the Baltic states

The United States supplies tankers from Surgut. And LNG to Poland from Sabetta. Speculators are such speculators. But sanctions are above all! For fools such as Outskirts, Baltic tigers and other Poland.

[KCA]

I was in Surgut, from it to the sea, somewhere the same as from me to Surgut, what tankers who supplies and what?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Mishanya74

I'm just wondering what kind of oil Belarus gets through the Baltic states .. Whose is it, this oil

Don't confuse export with import. It receives oil from the Russian Federation through a pipeline, and exports its refined products through the Baltic states.

[alexmach]

I would venture to suggest that the Norwegian? Or Saudi? Or maybe they just bought something on the spot market during price fluctuations and disputes with Moscow. In general, rummage through the news half a year ago. There should be about how Lukashenka sang about "not brothers
and partners "and about energy independence :)

[Nyrobsky]

Well, fine. Lithuania "buzzed" by 30% of GDP - The port will pull the railroad, which in turn will pull the car repair enterprises and the Depot, idle dead ends and bases, respectively, and auto transportation will be cut off, and all of them will pull a heap of orders for related businesses and job cuts. The lapdogs hitched up.

[Kerensky]

Uh-huh ... preparing for the start of the process of preparing for negotiations ... And they are already collecting the press. Such things love silence.

[Andrey Vasilievich]

Quote: imrek_ua

This is all great, of course. Yes, only once again will hit the ordinary citizens of Lithuania. I’m wondering if Lithuanian politicians, when they talk with their tongues, or are they welcomed any "revolutionaries", think about their voters? Or the main thing is to please the owner?

As with us, in Ukraine, they only think how to please the owners and grab a fatter piece.

[Gene84]

Quote: Andrey Vasilievich

snatch a piece fatter

It's the same everywhere ... Fucking capitalism.

[samarin1969]

Merkel will be cheaper to put pressure on the Russian Federation through the joint venture-2 than to pay the Balts "compensation". I will be very surprised if the Republic of Belarus transfers its cargo turnover to the Russian Federation. Usually all such loud demarches end with a quiet "rollback to reality."

[Roman070280]

If Minsk agrees with Moscow to reorient cargo traffic to Russian ports, Lithuania will lose a significant part of its income,

Finally, people's incomes will grow in Russia ..

[fa2998]

Quote: Rostislav

The beginning is right. The main thing is to bring the matter to a practical result. And fast.

But WHO WILL PAY? Clearly, transshipment by land, to our ports, is expensive, Belarus is losing profit. Doesn't want to lose money, they will agree that Russia will transfer, and Belarus will receive money.

[Tavi]

Lithuania: So what?
Batko: That's it!

[wow]

This is all gut, but if But Father feels "weakness" on the part of fraternal Russia, at prices, according to the priority of processing, he will again sit "on his neck." This is the usual method of the chairmen of the "advanced" collective farms of the USSR era.