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German politician: Putin must be extremely stupid to order the poisoning of Navalny, so I don't believe in it

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German politician: Putin must be extremely stupid to order the poisoning of Navalny, so I don't believe in it

Gregor Gizi, representing the German party "Left", made a statement about the alleged poisoning of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny. According to Gizi, in order to answer the question about the possible poisoning and its consequences, it is necessary to consider the situation with who in general could benefit from it.


Gregor Gisi:

The version that the president of Russia is behind the poisoning is absurd. In my opinion, the version that this is the work of a distraught loner from the special services or opponents of the Nord Stream 2 project may be much more plausible.

According to Gizi, if it really was a poisoning, then it was a man who knew perfectly well that they would try to blame the Kremlin.

Gizi:

Putin must be extremely stupid to order this. And that's why I don't believe in this version.

Gregor Gizi notes that there was no interest for Putin to make an "attack" on Navalny, let alone poison him with battle poison.

On the eve of another representative of the Left party, Sarah Wagenknecht, noted that if Berlin is going to impose sanctions against Russia and stop the construction of SP-2, accusing Moscow of violating human rights, then we need to be consistent and refuse to supply hydrocarbons from the US and Saudi Arabia. Arabia, where people are still executed.

The representative of the German party "Alternative for Germany" Gunnar Lindemann - a Berlin senator - published a material in which he spoke about Navalny's connections with financial circles represented by George Soros and representatives of the Clinton family. Lindemann believes that these forces could have decided on the poisoning of Navalny (if any) in order to try to discredit the Russian government on the international arena.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 8 September 2020 06: 57
    21
    Whoever said what, but in this situation, VVP is the last person on the list of those interested in such a scandal. But, all this is just our understanding and words, the world of modern politics lives by its own laws, often far from the logic of understanding the common man.
    1. Finches
      Finches 8 September 2020 07: 06
      24
      I understand everything perfectly, but:

      “Mudflow, avalanche, rockfall?” “It's clear: Putin is to blame!
      Tornado, typhoon, earthquake - There is no escape from Putin!
      A crow pecked at the crown? - This is a young friend of riot police.
      Bees, wasps sting you? - This is Putin's SpetsNaz.
      See this bumblebee? - He is in the service of the Kremlin!
      If you believe in this - It's just paranoia! "


      only this is political paranoia put at the service of the Anglo-Saxons to fight Russia! So they fought with us during the times of Ivan the Terrible, Peter I ..., broke the tsar-rag and were already rubbing their sweaty hands, how the Bolsheviks broke off all the raspberries, they had to work for another 70 years, undermining the mighty organism of the Soviet Empire, cultivating liberal parasites (like the modern Navalny) and buying weak nomenclature members on the front ... We have already gone through all this! Therefore, the fair opinion of a single German politician is interesting only to him! Because this is a centuries-old war of good and evil ... of the Russian Slavic civilization and the civilization of the Anglo-Saxons!
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 8 September 2020 08: 51
        +3
        Quote: Finches
        only this is political paranoia put at the service of the Anglo-Saxons to fight Russia!

        Paranoia does not start with a broken toilet in the toilet, but with a cold brain in a human head.
        The Ministry of Health warns "It is dangerous for people living in warm climatic zones to be in the Arctic regions of the Russian North."
    2. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb 8 September 2020 07: 09
      +5
      Everyone understands that the main interest is the United States.

      The stakes in the game are going up. But the move is ours.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 8 September 2020 08: 56
        +1
        Quote: Ilya-spb

        +3
        Everyone understands that the main interest is the United States.

        All my life I have doubts about what the USA is. Or the people there are so greedy and angry, or some kind of virus that affects the brain, or something completely unrelated to anger and a virus. I still can't figure it out.
    3. Snail N9
      Snail N9 8 September 2020 07: 10
      -6
      And there is. It is far from the common man's understanding of how it was that Navalny was allowed to be taken away from Russia, knowing that the West will play another farce associated with the notorious "use of poisons by the Kremlin to destroy its opponents." Who gave the export permit? Why did they not prevent its export under any plausible pretext? And other questions for Russian officials and security officials.
      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 8 September 2020 07: 20
        +6
        Customer CIA, executors closest associates of Navalny.
      2. depressant
        depressant 8 September 2020 07: 22
        +6
        By the way, if I'm not mistaken, Navalny has two travel bans.
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 8 September 2020 09: 02
        +4
        Quote: Snail N9
        Far for the common man to understandhow it was that Navalny was allowed to be taken away from Russia, knowing that the West will play another farce associated with the notorious "use of poisons by the Kremlin to destroy its opponents."
        What is incomprehensible here? The West hoped that this "poisonous" would be kept by hook or by crook, and in the meantime he (the West) would create the necessary information background, and then BAM! - take it! The decision to give up Navalny immediately violated the entire orderly line of the plan's implementation and led to the fact that they were forced to adjust the whole idea of ​​discrimination against Russia, but it turned out so clumsy that the whole world laughs at these entertainers with "Novichok".
        Quote: Snail N9
        Who gave the export permit?
        It would not have been possible to take out the "poisoned" without the Kremlin's sanction, and therefore the GDP has personally given the go-ahead for export, especially so that the West would be more convenient to mold a "evil poisoner" out of him. At least the western man in the street is at a loss, since no one has yet been able to "cover up their tracks" laughing
        Quote: Snail N9
        Why did they not prevent its export under any plausible pretext?
        What for? It is clear, however, that such a "plausible" chance to give the West a shit head over heels is not often given.
        Quote: Snail N9
        And other questions for Russian officials and security officials.

        And what questions to them? Officials routinely come up with schemes for "mastering" the budget and they generally don't care what Navalny is eating and how he poops. The security forces are tirelessly fighting the criminal element. They are generally cogs in the state machine. They said to release, they will release. They told me to lock it on bunks, they will lock it up.
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 8 September 2020 09: 15
          +1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          background, and then BAM! - take it! The decision to give up Navalny immediately violated the entire orderly line of implementation of the plan and led to the fact that they were forced to adjust the whole idea of ​​discrimination against Russia, but it turned out so clumsy that the whole world laughs at these entertainers with "Novichok".

          Yes, it seems that the plan "cracked" somewhere, and I had to improvise ... They were taken to Berlin, and not to London, for example ... Perhaps they expected that a corpse would fly to Moscow, but put in Omsk ... , a performance of the "Burnt" theater ...
        2. Snail N9
          Snail N9 8 September 2020 09: 42
          -3
          The presence of the "object" in your hands guarantees control of the situation, just by you. If you move the object into the zone of action of your enemies, it means giving them the initiative and control over the situation in their hands. This is an axiom. In the case of Navalny, if Navalny were under our control, then we would have controlled the situation, the West could at least howl in its assumptions, but it would have been their assumptions and speculation, NOT CONFIRMED BY ANYTHING. And now, when the object of the scandal is in their hands, then any of their insinuations becomes CONFIRMED BY JUST ONE HER PRESENCE OF THEM !. And this, too, is an axiom. Now we need to turn out, not them. That is, we gave control over the situation to our enemies. And the fact that we have destroyed something original from the "west" is nonsense. THE OBJECT IS NOT IN OUR JURISDICTION NOW AND WE CANNOT CONTROL THE SITUATION AND LEAD IT IN THE DIRECTION NEEDED FOR US - and this is the main thing.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 8 September 2020 10: 01
            +4
            Quote: Snail N9
            Now we need to turn out, not them.
            Controversial statement. We have in stock the entire set of biomaterials taken from the "Object" before its transfer to Germany, in which there are no traces of the "newcomer". Now they need to justify how and at what stage this poisonous substance got into the "object". It is enough to carry out a comparative analysis of the samples. Moscow doesn't mind. If that side does not give samples for analysis, then the hedgehog understands that Russia is not involved in the poisoning and the story of the poisoning is not worth a damn.
            1. Snail N9
              Snail N9 8 September 2020 10: 13
              -4
              This biomaterial, which, in our country, no longer interests anyone - the scandal with WADA was not just that, was inspired (the West never does anything just for the sake of one goal, the nearest, it always acts for the sake of a distant perspective) - the main thing in it was not only a blow to the "honesty" of Russian sports, but it was also necessary to discredit the entire system of laboratory research and diagnostics in Russia - as completely: either "wrong", or "corrupt", or "controlled by the state." Now, if the Russian authorities want to present the biomaterial taken from Navalny, for comparison, in the West they simply do not want to use it, they will dismiss it, declaring it either incorrectly selected, or "they have already worked on it," and so on. And the Western man in the street takes it with pleasure, remembering the scandal with WADA. But if the "object" were with us .... everything would be completely, otherwise, we could control the situation and put forward conditions.
      4. Ilya Nikitich
        Ilya Nikitich 8 September 2020 15: 07
        +2
        Do you think so?
        I understand that you do not understand that if the oval had not been released, then the stench would have been 100500 times more ...
    4. Civil
      Civil 8 September 2020 07: 26
      +4
      Vladimir Vladimirovich is not alone in his country of 146 million ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 September 2020 07: 35
        -12 qualifying.
        Everything is cool. Mustache to protect the GDP ... hotly "beloved" again, all 146 million citizens of OUR country!
        PS but all the same intErEsno, who advised to release from the country the one who cannot, according to the law, by the way?
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 8 September 2020 08: 08
          +2
          Everything is simple here - Merkel and Macron personally put pressure on Putin and demanded the evacuation of Navalny. If Putin continued to resist, it would be too suspicious, it would be like covering up his tracks.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 8 September 2020 08: 22
            -3
            All their conjectures, cowards, unfinished bottles, etc., could be safely sent to a specific address !!! would put that scarecrow on its feet and truncated, until the next attempt ... it would have had brains, he would have begun to cooperate with the investigation, with the servicemen, if he wanted to live !!!
            And no, so figs on him, this "tuzik" is already dead, a long time ago.
            1. Fan-fan
              Fan-fan 8 September 2020 08: 34
              -7
              This should not be done in a civilized society. Look at Lukashenka’s all the presidential candidates either sit or managed to escape from the country. We have a similar thing going on, for example, before Grudinin was not touched, but as he went to the presidency, then immediately dragged through the courts. As soon as he began to criticize the authorities, so immediately a prison, a bullet or poison.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 8 September 2020 08: 48
                +2
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                As soon as he began to criticize the authorities, so immediately a prison, a bullet or poison.

                It is doubtful, personally none of the killed, did not interfere with the top, from the definition at all ...
                Here is someone in particular, they could not like ... and not the fact that he was from the local.
              2. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 8 September 2020 08: 54
                -3
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                As soon as he began to criticize the authorities, so immediately a prison, a bullet or poison.

                Yes, well ... This is the most common coincidence ... wassat
                Quote: Bar1
                Platoshkin also got sick, maybe the same thing?

                Sit locked up for three months and you will understand how stale air and book dust contribute to vigor and longevity. Another matter, on whose slander he was placed in such conditions and when the trial - "the most humane trial in Moscow" will take place?
                As for criticism of the authorities:
              3. KCA
                KCA 8 September 2020 12: 10
                +4
                From the joke - exhale a beaver, exhale, what the fuck is Grudinin? Did anyone really have the idea that he was straight like this, out of nowhere, from a collective farm, and would immediately pick up votes even to enter the second round? He did not surrender to anyone in order to touch him, I suspect that first a case or preliminary investigation arose, after which Grudinin climbed into the elections
        2. Ilya Nikitich
          Ilya Nikitich 8 September 2020 15: 11
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          PS but all the same intErEsno, who advised to release from the country the one who cannot, according to the law, by the way?

          Didn't the snitch explain to you clearly enough?
    5. Bar1
      Bar1 8 September 2020 08: 19
      +2
      Platoshkin also got sick, maybe the same thing?
    6. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 8 September 2020 08: 37
      -1
      If they have the norm (and even more) to walk on the rear wheel drive, then what can you discuss with them?
    7. lucul
      lucul 8 September 2020 08: 45
      +2
      Whoever said what, but in this situation, VVP is the last person on the list of those interested in such a scandal.

      The poisoning of Lechaim is the usual Casus belli of the West)))) They have been using it for centuries)))
  2. viktor.
    viktor. 8 September 2020 07: 02
    +6
    My neighbor drank up to Belochka, how to send him to Germany for treatment?
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 8 September 2020 07: 04
      +6
      Quote: viktor.
      My neighbor drank up to Belochka, how to send him to Germany for treatment?

      Airplanes to be sent to Germany arrive "not only for everyone" ... There, you understand, a number of conditions must meet ...
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 8 September 2020 07: 15
        +6

        Volodin (Alexey)
        Today, 07: 04
        NEW

        +1
        Quote: viktor.
        My neighbor drank up to Belochka, how to send him to Germany for treatment?

        Airplanes to be sent to Germany arrive "not only for everyone" ..... There, you understand, a number of conditions must meet ...
        And a cortege of 11 black limousines for delivery to the hospital, not everyone can deserve in Germany.
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 8 September 2020 08: 10
          +4
          Quote: aszzz888

          Volodin (Alexey)
          Today, 07: 04
          NEW

          +1
          Quote: viktor.
          My neighbor drank up to Belochka, how to send him to Germany for treatment?

          Airplanes to be sent to Germany arrive "not only for everyone" ..... There, you understand, a number of conditions must meet ...
          And a cortege of 11 black limousines for delivery to the hospital, not everyone can deserve in Germany.


          It must be the best German 2020
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 8 September 2020 08: 36
            +2
            Cyril G ... (Cyril)
            Today, 08: 10
            NEW

            +1
            Quote: aszzz888

            Volodin (Alexey)
            Today, 07: 04
            NEW

            +1
            Quote: viktor.
            My neighbor drank up to Belochka, how to send him to Germany for treatment?

            Airplanes to be sent to Germany arrive "not only for everyone" ... There, you understand, a number of conditions must meet ...
            And a cortege of 11 black limousines for delivery to the hospital, not everyone can deserve in Germany.


            It must be the best German 2020
            The flabby is accompanied by fewer cars than the Lech. wink
            1. Cyril G ...
              Cyril G ... 8 September 2020 08: 42
              +2
              So that's why he and best german 20th year ...
              1. aszzz888
                aszzz888 8 September 2020 08: 45
                +3
                Cyril G ... (Cyril)
                Today, 08: 42

                +1
                So that's why he is the best German of the 20th year ...
                good lech is German. wink
    2. svp67
      svp67 8 September 2020 07: 08
      +8
      Quote: viktor.
      My neighbor drank up to Belochka, how to send him to Germany for treatment?

      Write in net that he was poisoned by "agents of the KaGBi" for supporting Navalny and ask to repost this message. Yes, do not forget to mention that his squirrel died in terrible agony, possibly from the fumes of the "Novice"
    3. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb 8 September 2020 07: 10
      +3
      To say that he was given vodka by order of the king)))
    4. novel66
      novel66 8 September 2020 07: 54
      +3
      how to send him to Germany for treatment?
      "Iskander" lol
  3. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 8 September 2020 07: 07
    +1
    Recently, people are no longer soared about a specific case (poisoning). The main thing is PR in the press and its own reaction to this PR. Already, even the reaction of society is not expected.
  4. Dynamic systems
    Dynamic systems 8 September 2020 07: 08
    +5
    There are few sober-minded people left in Geyrope. They don't seem to exist, but they are. hi
    But, mostly, stoned and stoned by "newbies" and "squeaks" ... lol
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 September 2020 07: 14
    +7
    According to Gizi, in order to answer the question about the possible poisoning and its consequences, it is necessary to consider the situation with who in general could benefit from it.
    And by the way, a little-repeated, but VERY IMPORTANT FACT in this murky story. The German pilots who arrived for the Lyokha rested 10 (TEN !!!!!!!) hours before flying to Germany, because do not have the right, according to their laws, to fly without rest. And then, the same Germans said that there was nothing of the sort in the urgent movement of the Lech, they would wait. And as soon as they arrived in Germany, he immediately felt bad)) and they put a pipe in his mouth so that he would not put his sneakers in a corner. This is again according to their unpretentious logic. They lie as they breathe, and the decrepit merkel caved in before the merikatos and insolent.
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 8 September 2020 08: 01
      +3
      Merkel is a hardened fox.
      No wonder Navalny was sent to Germany.
      In a dermocratic world, people live according to certain rules.
      Now Merkel has inflated a scandal, then she will gradually curtail.
      Maybe some minor sanctions will be introduced.
      And SP2 will be taken out of the blow.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 8 September 2020 08: 39
        +4

        Livonetc (Gennady)
        Today, 08: 01
        NEW

        +1
        Merkel is a hardened fox.
        No wonder Navalny was sent to Germany.
        In a dermocratic world, people live according to certain rules.
        Now Merkel has inflated a scandal, then she will gradually curtail.
        Maybe some minor sanctions will be introduced.
        And I will take SP2 out of the blowso
        Your words, of course, as they say - Yes, God in the ears! But something is doubtful. Therefore, those who are flabby will have a hook and a compra on it. Although she has a dossier in all NATO intelligence services with interest.
        1. Livonetc
          Livonetc 8 September 2020 08: 52
          +3
          Yes, just that.
          SP2 is extremely important for Germany.
          Uncle Sam is a huge sales market.
          The task for Merkel and the fish to eat and sit on the mattress.
          For this, a bulk knixen is made towards Uncle Sam.
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 8 September 2020 08: 55
            +4

            Livonetc (Gennady)
            Today, 08: 52

            0
            Yes, just that.
            SP2 is extremely important for Germany.
            Uncle Sam is a huge sales market.
            The task for Merkel and the fish to eat and sit on the mattress.
            To do this, it is done in the direction of Uncle Sam bulk booksen.
            At the same time, a flabby one will fall on its side, and will no longer stand up, or will sausage it to the end (Damn, really a beginner!) bully
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 8 September 2020 07: 16
    0
    The truth "product" is inconvenient, little in demand today in certain circles!
    1. Vladimir Demyanov
      Vladimir Demyanov 8 September 2020 07: 34
      +2
      The goods are inconvenient, etc. - can be disposed of for political purposes.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 September 2020 07: 39
        -2
        The question is ... why was it necessary to give this "product" to the paws of those who, at least, sweep it under the carpet?
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 8 September 2020 08: 02
          -3
          So I say, for us in Russia, in fact, the main thing in this story is not that in the West they raised another howl about the poisoning by Novichok - this is exactly what everyone expected, the main thing is the answer to the question, who exactly allowed to take Navalny out of Russia? For what reason did our law enforcement agencies and special services not prevent this? Personally, when I learned that Navalny had been taken away from Russia, I almost fell off my chair, I thought: “What was that? The wildest unprofessionalism, everyone in the Kremlin has become so stupid, an act of betrayal (which is doubtful), or someone in the West we have such a strong hold on the Kremlin elite for Faberge that, upon a call, the Kremlin and our special services released the "non-exit" "victim" without any conditions or agreements for the cordon, even knowing how it would turn out for Russia.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 8 September 2020 08: 17
            0
            Quote: Snail N9
            " What was it?

            I very much assume that many, many people around the world have asked the same question!
            Ours, of course, expressed their opinion in a very specific form, like pi pi pi pi ...........
    2. cniza
      cniza 8 September 2020 09: 26
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      The truth "product" is inconvenient, little in demand today in certain circles!


      And they are afraid of her ... Greetings! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 September 2020 09: 59
        +1
        Hi soldier
        It has always been like this ... people are not angels, always, let alone a politician, there was no white fluffy there at all!
        1. cniza
          cniza 8 September 2020 12: 41
          +3
          But the Russian land has always been based on truth and justice ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 8 September 2020 12: 58
            +1
            Faith, too, cannot be discounted! she was, is and will be.
            1. cniza
              cniza 8 September 2020 13: 03
              +2
              This is how truth and justice flow from faith, without this there is no way ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 8 September 2020 13: 09
                +1
                Faith can be about different things ... most importantly, it should help us in our righteous deeds!
                1. cniza
                  cniza 8 September 2020 13: 37
                  +2
                  Therefore, I did not write what kind of faith, everyone decides for himself, but the Germans sailed in an unknown direction, in their affairs with Navalny.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 8 September 2020 14: 15
                    +1
                    Yes, it's like with a Jewish orchestra, which was ordered for a funeral, but the deceased was not there !!! Nothing, quickly organized ... a half corpse! PAID !!!
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 8 September 2020 14: 52
                      +2
                      They are masters of such tricks, but this time something might go wrong ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 8 September 2020 18: 18
                        +1
                        There is an order, they will work out ... but they do not care about inconsistencies in ANY way! their people are accustomed to hawala then they are given sho, and ours ... ours are far from them!
  7. Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich 8 September 2020 07: 30
    +1
    All about the crimes of the Clinton clan.
    https://www.protiproud.cz/ru/politics/7665.htm
  8. askort154
    askort154 8 September 2020 07: 50
    +2
    It's time for the CIA to hang a plaque on the "Statue of Liberty" with the names:
    Magnitsky
    Litvinenko,
    Nemtsov,
    Skripal,
    Kasparov (in advance)
    Navalny (in advance).
    Leave a place below, for another couple of dozen. yes
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 8 September 2020 09: 01
      -10 qualifying.
      Do you doubt that the list there has exceeded a couple of dozen?


      Stanislav Markelov and Anastasia Baburova, 2009

      Markelov was a human rights lawyer known for representing Chechen civilians in human rights violations against the Russian army. He also represented journalists stranded after writing articles critical of Putin, including Novaya Gazeta correspondent Anna Politkovskaya, who was killed in 2006. Markelov was shot by a masked gunman near the Kremlin... Baburova, also a journalist for Novaya Gazeta, was killed while trying to help him.


      Most likely - a coincidence ..))

      Natalia Estemirova, 2009

      Natalya Estemirova was a journalist who investigated abductions and killings that became common in Chechnya. There, pro-Russian security forces took brutal repressive measures to eliminate Islamic militants responsible for some of the worst terrorist attacks in the country. Like journalist Anna Politkovskaya, Estemirova spoke about civilians who often found themselves caught between these two brutal parties. Estemirova was kidnapped near her house, shot several times, including point-blank in the head, and thrown into the forest nearby. No one was convicted for her murder.


      Anna Politkovskaya, 2006


      Anna Politkovskaya was the Russian correspondent for Novaya Gazeta; in her book, Putin's Russia, she accused the Kremlin leader of turning the country into a police state. She has written extensively about abuses in Chechnya and has appeared on Moscow radio several times. She was shot point-blank in the elevator of her house. Five people were accused of her murder, but the judge concluded that it was a contract murder, for which they paid 150 thousand dollars, but the identity of the customer was never established. Putin denied the Kremlin's involvement in the murder of Politkovskaya, saying that her “death in itself is more harmful to the current government both in Russia and in Chechnya ... than her activities ”.

      This selection sounds very funny ..)) Putin defended himself with exactly the same words in the case of Nemtsov, and now in the situation with Navalny ..

      Anna Politkovskaya
      «
      And now there are two photos on my desktop. I'm investigating. This is torture in Kadyrov's dungeons today and yesterday. These are people who were abducted by the Kadyrovites for a completely incomprehensible reason. They did not become just to organize PR ... "
      - From the last speech of Anna Politkovskaya
      Killed on October 7, 2006 - the day after Kadyrov's birthday, on Putin's birthday.
      I think this is the same coincidence as the missile salvo with Caliber on Putin's birthday ..))


      Movladi Baysarov
      “- Do you think Ramzan Kadyrov can be the president of Chechnya?
      - In this life, anything can be. If we strive for the collapse of Russia, he can be president. "
      - Movladi Baysarov

      «Yes, a group left here Kadyrov's confidants, armed, with grenade launchers, with full ammunition, allegedly for my arrest. I don’t know what sanction they had, but personally, I have not received any notification, no summons that I should appear in the prosecutor’s office or any other authorities. They say that this group came with a verbal order: if they detain me or if federal structures turn me over to them, somewhere between Rostov and Chechnya it will be necessary to arrange liquidation. When trying to escape or something else. "

      - From an interview with Baysarov four days before his murder
      Killed by Chechen police on November 18, 2006 in Moscow.


      In the open .. a person already knows that they are going to kill him, but all that remains is just to sit and wait ..))

      Sulim Yamadayev

      Once the motorcade of two VIP sheep (Kadyrov and Yamadayev) could not part on the Chechen road. The road is narrow, and giving in is not by concept. From that day on, the Yamadayevs started having problems. Sulim Yamadayev was put on the wanted list.

      On March 28, 2009, he was assassinated in Dubai. But the UAE is not Raska for you. Dubai is one of the safest cities in the world, stuffed with video cameras, in which murder is as rare as a gibbon in Raschka that does not take bribes. Therefore, the crime was quickly solved: one of the murderers was Iranian citizen Mahdi Lornia, who worked in Dubai as Ramzan's personal groom, and the alleged customer of the attempt on the life of Adam Delimkhanov (State Duma deputy, cousin of Ramzan) put on the international wanted list. The next day Hero of Russia Ramzan Kadyrov accused another Hero of Russia, Sulima Yamadayev, for involvement in the murder of his father, Hero of Russia Akhmat Kadyrov, and also confirmed that Yamadayev was killed in Dubai. As stated above, on charges of murder the Dubai police have announced another Hero of Russia, Adam Delimkhanov, on the international wanted list.

      And who would put them all in the Duma, and Kheroev amazed ??

      Ruslan Yamadaev

      Killed on September 24, 2008. Notable for the murder that was committed in broad daylight, in the center of Default City, not far from the White House, right in front of a video camera at an intersection.



      Well, everything is so .. only resonant cases that are heard ..

      But what a sucker still needs to be to believe even after this "small" list of the extravagant king .. who is not the first time hiding behind the same words that he is not so stupid .. and "this death" is the least of all profitable ..
  9. Prisoner
    Prisoner 8 September 2020 07: 58
    +2
    If this hype leads to sanctions on SP-2, then the beneficiary is known - the United States. Then the question of who muddied this provocation can be removed.
  10. NDR-791
    NDR-791 8 September 2020 08: 06
    +2
    Quote: rocket757
    The question is ... why was it necessary to give this "product" to the paws of those who, at least, sweep it under the carpet?

    And the Lyokha is no longer taking out here. recourse His rating was of the wrong caliber. So let them - they took it and they themselves will disassemble its carcass for parts. And what about the old man newbie, etc. then we will survive, it does not matter to us from what to receive sanctions. And so they gave them a specially prepared excuse so that the Gay Europeans would not break their heads laughing
    1. Avior
      Avior 8 September 2020 08: 14
      -6
      Yes, such a Navalny is not needed by anyone ...
      ... The ruble noticeably accelerated the fall against the dollar and the euro on Wednesday evening, having sharply negatively reacted to the statement of the official representative of the German government Steffen Seibert that the well-known opposition leader Alexei Navalny was poisoned in Russia with a nerve agent.

      And compare
      ... Messages about Alexei Navalny's withdrawal from a coma led to an increase in the exchange rate of the Russian ruble against the US dollar and the euro. This is evidenced by the trading data of the Moscow Exchange.
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 8 September 2020 08: 09
    +1
    Let's just see who benefits from it?
  12. imobile2008
    imobile2008 8 September 2020 08: 14
    -11 qualifying.
    Quote: Pessimist22
    Customer CIA, executors closest associates of Navalny.

    It doesn't matter who poisoned, we cannot find and arrest the customers, thereby we are like the country of Papuanwhere everyone is poisoning each other and everyone is wondering who
    1. Horon
      Horon 8 September 2020 09: 20
      +4
      we are like the country of Papuan

      Perhaps you are in the middle. To start investigative actions, facts of the existence of a crime are required! Such facts were not provided, there are only statements by German officials, not supported by evidence. The most that can be done with this is to check this possibility on the territory of the Russian Federation. If there are no violations in the provision of medical care, then there are no prerequisites for further digging. In order to open a criminal case here, in Russia, we need facts confirming the existence of a crime on its territory, and with this, alas, in no way. It is possible to assume both a political game (where the pile was not poisoned with anything), as well as the likelihood of his poisoning both on the territory of Germany itself and on the way there. And this, alas, is already the competence of the German side. I repeat: from the point of view of the law, the German side did not provide evidence of both the poisoning and the fact that it was done before it was loaded onto the plane of the German airline.
      Not knowing the laws and procedural issues cannot be blamed until a person tries to judge them. If he comes out with criticism, then he must at least figure out what he is talking about, otherwise he really shows his level of being a resident of the popuass country.
    2. Ilya Nikitich
      Ilya Nikitich 8 September 2020 15: 21
      +2
      Quote: imobile2008
      where everyone is poisoning each other and everyone is wondering who

      Poor fellow. How long have you been bullied for the last time?
  13. Fan-fan
    Fan-fan 8 September 2020 08: 16
    -11 qualifying.
    Putin must be extremely stupid to order the poisoning of Navalny

    Yes, he is not stupid, but he is frightened, frightened by the events in Khabarovsk, in Belarus. He is afraid of losing power, and senile insanity is superimposed on all this, so he remembered how he was taught in the KGB to get rid of enemies. And all those who encroached on his power are enemies for him, since for such people power is a source of wealth and they will commit any crime in order not to lose power.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 8 September 2020 09: 19
      +6
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      because for such people, power is a source of wealth and they will commit any crime in order not to lose power.

      Are you talking about the various Soros, Clintons, Baruchs, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Windsors, Morgan and other criminals against humanity? There and the list of crimes is huge - the organization of wars and massacres, contract political killings, the collapse of economies out of the blue, etc. ........
    2. Ilya Nikitich
      Ilya Nikitich 8 September 2020 15: 27
      +3
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      and all this is superimposed on senile marasmus

      Judging by your own experience?
  14. imobile2008
    imobile2008 8 September 2020 08: 19
    -13 qualifying.
    Quote: Snail N9
    So I say, for us in Russia, in fact, the main thing in this story is not that in the West they raised another howl about the poisoning by Novichok - this is exactly what everyone expected, the main thing is the answer to the question, who exactly allowed to take Navalny out of Russia? For what reason did our law enforcement agencies and special services not prevent this? Personally, when I learned that Navalny had been taken away from Russia, I almost fell off my chair, I thought: “What was that? The wildest unprofessionalism, everyone in the Kremlin has become so stupid, an act of betrayal (which is doubtful), or someone in the West we have such a strong hold on the Kremlin elite for Faberge that, upon a call, the Kremlin and our special services released the "non-exit" "victim" without any conditions or agreements for the cordon, even knowing how it would turn out for Russia.

    And the fact that we went below the plinth is not important? The fact that we are a country where no customers are found is the norm. We are one of the Central African countries where each other is being bullied!
    1. Ilya Nikitich
      Ilya Nikitich 8 September 2020 15: 28
      +1
      I repeat: how long have you been bullied for the last time?
  15. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 8 September 2020 08: 23
    -5
    Gizi is the last, or one of the last mammoths of the SED. Apparently, he has not yet lost the hope of laying his hands on the party treasury.

    The name Gizi was mentioned in connection with one of the most famous scams of the withdrawal of SED money abroad. The operation was called the "Traveler Deal". In the summer of 1990, the party's presidium decided to withdraw money from the country with the help of Moscow, and after consultations with the CPSU, SED funds in the modern equivalent of 53,5 million euros were transferred to foreign accounts both in the GDR and abroad, in Norway and the Netherlands. However, the operation failed due to the fact that the receiving banks had doubts about the legality of the origin of large sums. The funds were blocked, and the banks turned to the criminal police, which in October 1990, two weeks after the official unification of Germany, opened an investigation. Party functionaries vigorously protested against the investigation, and the then leader of the SED - PDS Gizi flew to Moscow and at a meeting with Gorbachev insisted there that the CPSU confirm the legend with the "Putnik". However, it was already impossible to hush up the scandal ...
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 8 September 2020 12: 57
      +1
      Do you, in essence, have anything to say? Who benefits from Navalny's poisoning? For VVP, he is a "downed pilot" and a "lame duck" in one bottle. He was constantly surrounded by his assistants. Remember how the British even wanted to demolish the pub, where Skripal was "hounded"? And why his assistants are "whole"? Where was Navalny hounded? In the morning at the hotel I did not eat or drink anything, at the airport I bought only tea. Hounded on the plane? In an enclosed space and with a closed air conditioning system, where else are the victims of Novichok? Why are you translating articles into the meaning of the personality of Gizi?
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 8 September 2020 13: 44
        -1
        Quote: Okolotochny
        Why are you translating articles into the meaning of the personality of Gizi?

        I just point out the fact that in order to reach the money of the SED, Gizi will sing any aria on request for any owner. Then, it was the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and Gorbachev. hi
  16. Igoresha
    Igoresha 8 September 2020 08: 31
    +3
    IMHO, persecuted by order of opponents of the SP-2. Customers - CIA, executors - citizens of the Russian Federation.
  17. Wwk7260
    Wwk7260 8 September 2020 08: 32
    -11 qualifying.
    in the ruling circles in the Russian Federation, there are many "friends" who could do this, it is not beneficial for Putin, but this once again proves how badly he controls his environment. a little off topic, but high ... r mashki marafet towards Vuchech from this category. dismiss and disconnect the monkey from the Internet for life.
    1. Ilya Nikitich
      Ilya Nikitich 8 September 2020 15: 31
      +1
      Wwk7260-heroin, can you disconnect the baboon from the Internet? What exactly was Maria Zakharova wrong about? Was she giving poor Vucic bad advice?
      1. Wwk7260
        Wwk7260 9 September 2020 13: 34
        -4
        and where did you get the idea that we are talking about Maria Zakharova? and? I'm talking about my neighbor, a weaver, a multi-station woman, a member of the United Russia Party, a mother of many children, unattended children, she plows in three shifts, and in her free time she scribbles on Facebook, so she must be fired and the Internet must be turned off, let her husband earn a "marafet" and a different meaning, but due to your depravity you interpret everything unambiguously. repeat laughing
        1. Ilya Nikitich
          Ilya Nikitich 10 September 2020 07: 23
          0
          Poor fellow, why are you so liquid?
  18. BAI
    BAI 8 September 2020 08: 39
    +2
    Has someone started to see clearly in the West?
  19. Roman070280
    Roman070280 8 September 2020 08: 41
    0
    But when a person is not stupid .. then he knows very well in advance that this is exactly what they will think of him ..
    But Putin is still a multi-turner ..))
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 8 September 2020 09: 29
      -1
      But he is a multi-move two or three moves forward.
      And he gets a loud tactical "rating" success with his electorate.
      But you need to count much further. Therefore, strategically, it fails. What can be seen in 20 years.
      In China, leaders are the opposite. Tactical setbacks, but unchanged strategic success.
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 8 September 2020 12: 59
        +1
        But he is a multi-move two or three moves forward.
        And he gets a loud tactical "rating" success with his electorate.
        But you need to count much further. Therefore, strategically, it fails. What can be seen in 20 years.
        In China, leaders are the opposite. Tactical setbacks, but unchanged strategic success.

        Well, if the annexation of Crimea is considered a "tactical success", then ??? What will be strategic? Israel's accession to the Jewish Autonomous Region?
      2. bk316
        bk316 9 September 2020 13: 36
        -2
        And he gets a loud tactical "rating" success with his electorate.

        Well, that is, you agree with the title of the article.
  20. Klingon
    Klingon 8 September 2020 08: 59
    +2
    Leftists and Alternative, the last two parties in Germany that are still head-on. both are under constant pressure from the ruling Mackerel coalition, the former are accused of excessive love for Russia and Pu, the latter are accused of neo-Nazism. Moreover, the Alternative (AFD) was from the very beginning categorically against the release of any Arab rabble into the country (hence the reason for the accusation of neo-Nazism)
  21. cniza
    cniza 8 September 2020 09: 01
    +2
    Lindemann believes that these forces could have decided on the poisoning of Navalny (if any) in order to try to discredit the Russian government on the international arena.


    Many people understand everything, but politicians in power have saluted and are following US instructions ...
  22. Maks1995
    Maks1995 8 September 2020 09: 19
    -2
    The stump is clear, I did not order it myself.

    But I probably didn't order chemistry either. And brilliant green in the face. And water in the back. Small as that for the conqueror of Syria and Crimea.

    Meanwhile, the special forces were filming for all that, wiretapping and putting it on the network ... and did not punish anyone.

    How is it, the captain should be responsible for the ship or not?
  23. Maximilian37
    Maximilian37 8 September 2020 09: 30
    +3
    advertising here on VO is funny
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 8 September 2020 12: 59
      +2
      Advertising the Navalny fund?
    2. Igoresha
      Igoresha 8 September 2020 13: 13
      -1
      "Smart voting" is from Navalny)) in this way he excommunicated United Russia members from power in several cities. But if advertising infuriates, then put the add-on Adblock plus in the browser and the page will be clean
  24. Stils
    Stils 8 September 2020 09: 57
    -1
    It is obvious that Navalny was poisoned by those corrupt officials whom he exposed, or those whom he was going to expose.
    He's like a bone in the throat of the junta
  25. bumerang.
    bumerang. 8 September 2020 10: 23
    +1
    But the investigation is interesting, but there are many letters: https://www.pravda.ru/society/1528118-Alexey_Navalny/
    ......... On a trip to Novosibirsk and Tomsk, Pevchikh was also constantly near Navalny and had "access to the body." Perhaps even at the highest level.
    "She not only did not leave him a step, but also lived with him at the hotel. She literally spent the nights in his room. We are all adults and we understand what it means when a woman spends several nights with a man," the source said. ...
    And there was only one time period when Maria was not with the oppositionist - on board a plane from Tomsk to Moscow. Given the girl's ability to travel incognito and cover up her tracks, after the probable poisoning of Navalny, she could predict an attack on the plane and did not want to be near the oppositionist so as not to expose herself to a blow and interrogation by the police. The pre-investigation check would surely have affected the escort and would have drawn unnecessary attention to her identity.
    In addition, according to the interlocutor, when Pevchikh found out about the poisoning, she went from Tomsk to Novosibirsk in a car with an unknown man who had nothing to do with FBK. And already there she bought an air ticket to Omsk, where she joined his escort group. We checked. Tickets from Tomsk to Omsk at that time were freely available. So the maneuver is at least strange.
    It is interesting that at a time when his wife Yulia and press secretary Kira Yarmysh were distributing comments and describing everything that happened live, no one again mentioned the existence of the Singers. The girl herself also did not comment. And she cleverly avoided the attention of the press.
    But during the transportation of Navalny to Germany on a specially equipped plane, where neither Yulia Navalny nor the FBK employees were allowed, Singers herself left Russia.
    "Singers were able to board the German board as a translator. It is still unclear how the security service could have let her through so easily. Nobody asked who and what a Russian woman and a British resident are going to translate to on a plane flying to Germany," the source said.
    In the published videos made by Ruptly near the Charite clinic, a certain girl is constantly in the company of Yulia Navalny, who, by indirect indications, is similar to Maria Pevchikh. At the same time, she covers her face as much as possible with sunglasses and a medical mask, skillfully maneuvering between the lenses of journalists' cameras.
    It became known who really wanted and could kill Alexei
    Navalny. 409240.jpeg
    The poisoned bottle that appeared in Germany, which was not previously mentioned by either Yulia Navalnaya or Kira Yarmysh, deserves special attention. It is likely that it was the Singers who provided it.
    "If you think about who had access to Navalny's food and drinks? Probably Singers, who spent the nights with him. It was easiest for her to add something to a bottle of water and put it in her luggage, because they would not be allowed on board with a drink. said that he did not drink anything except tea at the airport. She could not know about a bottle of water drunk at the hotel, but Maria - on the contrary. She planned in advance the transfer of evidence that would definitely be taken into account and studied by experts on the subject toxins, "the source says.
    As you know from toxicologists, toxins with such characteristic signs of poisoning as Navalny had can act for up to 15-20 hours before a person really becomes ill. Therefore, Maria could well have expected that Navalny would get to the ambulance over Moscow, when everyone had already forgotten about her.
    It is also very unusual that Boris Zimin, in agreement with his father, so quickly found money for a special medical plane, which costs at least three times more than the entire debt of FBK and Navalny. Why then did he not give the money immediately to pay off the debt so that the FBK would not have to be liquidated? Our source's answer is simple:
    “Everyone realized that they screwed up when Navalny fell into a coma. They either wanted to kill him or scare him. But definitely not to drive him to a hospital bed under the supervision of doctors and law enforcement officers. that the money was found immediately, and the professional doctors too ", -

    Read more ....
  26. viktor.
    viktor. 8 September 2020 13: 12
    +1
    Quote: Fan-Fan
    bullet or poison.

    Do you think that GDP is so fool to remove their (Competitors) in this way? laughing laughing laughing fool
  27. orionvitt
    orionvitt 8 September 2020 15: 45
    0
    that then they will try to blame the Kremlin.
    If the cat has given birth to kittens, and so on. The scheme has been known for a long time. Well, if only they have already invented something new, idiots. And with such people Russia has to do international politics. I'm shocked and silent. wassat
  28. NF68
    NF68 8 September 2020 16: 22
    +1
    Who needs him to also poison him? He yapped himself out of the doorway and didn't really bother anyone.
  29. fa2998
    fa2998 8 September 2020 16: 53
    0
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    without the Kremlin's sanction, it would not have worked, and therefore the GDP was personally approved for export,

    That is, they called, they gave all the honor soldier and court decisions on the ban on leaving, on the drum ... We have an interesting judicial (and state) system. request what
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 8 September 2020 17: 08
      +1
      Lisa Peskova was also able to fly to Paris during quarantine)))
      1. fa2998
        fa2998 8 September 2020 17: 16
        0
        This reflects the thesis "The law is one for all" -them "on the drum," the law for the sheep. And they think of themselves as the top of the pyramid.
  30. Alexander Sosnitsky
    Alexander Sosnitsky 8 September 2020 22: 30
    0
    The European politicians are extremely clever, who, quite deliberately mockingly and with impunity against Putin and Russia in his person, blame everyone and there is nothing to be done against this, we must endure. Payment for the general debzm of the entire Russian historical political system, the blunders of the leaders, the lack of a historical culture of the establishment, the dispersal of Russian history and aristocrats. But all this only tempers Russia. More "Asian hordes" are running around the Reichstag. The main thing is still ahead. Nature does not forgive this.
  31. Radikal
    Radikal 9 September 2020 03: 51
    +1
    Quote: Finches
    I understand everything perfectly, but:

    “Mudflow, avalanche, rockfall?” “It's clear: Putin is to blame!
    Tornado, typhoon, earthquake - There is no escape from Putin!
    A crow pecked at the crown? - This is a young friend of riot police.
    Bees, wasps sting you? - This is Putin's SpetsNaz.
    See this bumblebee? - He is in the service of the Kremlin!
    If you believe in this - It's just paranoia! "


    only this is political paranoia put at the service of the Anglo-Saxons to fight Russia! So they fought with us during the times of Ivan the Terrible, Peter I ..., broke the tsar-rag and were already rubbing their sweaty hands, how the Bolsheviks broke off all the raspberries, they had to work for another 70 years, undermining the mighty organism of the Soviet Empire, cultivating liberal parasites (like the modern Navalny) and buying weak nomenclature members on the front ... We have already gone through all this! Therefore, the fair opinion of a single German politician is interesting only to him! Because this is a centuries-old war of good and evil ... of the Russian Slavic civilization and the civilization of the Anglo-Saxons!

    Everything was confused in the house (and in the head) of the Oblonskys .... winked
  32. Radikal
    Radikal 9 September 2020 04: 01
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Sosnitsky
    The European politicians are extremely clever, who, quite deliberately mockingly and with impunity against Putin and Russia in his person, blame everyone and there is nothing to be done against this, we must endure. Payment for the general debzm of the entire Russian historical political system, the blunders of the leaders, the lack of a historical culture of the establishment, the dispersal of Russian history and aristocrats. But all this only tempers Russia. More "Asian hordes" are running around the Reichstag. The main thing is still ahead. Nature does not forgive this.

    Well, well, maybe it was your aristocrats who hoisted the red assault banner of the 105th Idritsa division on the roof of the Reichstag in 1945? sad
    P.S. Necessarily, like some Sosnitsky, or Shpakovsky - so suffering about the aristocracy ...
  33. iouris
    iouris 10 September 2020 12: 10
    0
    Who is stupid then?