Pushilin ordered to postpone the start of the operation to eliminate the fortifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Horlivka

The head of the Donetsk People's Republic did not dare to give an order, which, in fact, was provided for by his own ultimatum to the Ukrainian side. Let us recall that Denis Pushilin demanded that the Ukrainian side eliminate all the fortifications of the security forces near the Gorlovka village of Shumy. If Ukraine does not liquidate these fortifications by September 7, then an order will be given to destroy them by the forces of the NM DNR, - as the press service of the DPR head said.

Now it becomes known that Denis Pushilin gave a different order to the people's militia of the republic. On the basis of this order, a military operation to destroy the fortifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, not eliminated by the Ukrainian side in the Gorlovka area, will begin on September 9.

Information about the postponement of the operation near Gorlovka is confirmed by Colonel Basurin, deputy head of the DPR NM department. According to Eduard Basurin, the activity of the Ukrainian military in the area of ​​the Shumy settlement has been observed over the entire recent period. Instead of dismantling the existing military infrastructure, Ukrainian security forces are building additional facilities in the immediate vicinity of the contact line, which is a flagrant violation of agreements.

Basurin:

After reporting to the head of the Republic about what is happening in the area of ​​the village of Shuma, he decided to continue monitoring the situation and postpone the start of the operation to eliminate the Ukrainian fortifications to 10:00 on September 9, 2020.

It is noted that Pushilin ordered "not to cancel, but to postpone" the operation.

Experts believe that the operation may not start on September 9. Moreover, the statements of the head of the DPR can be used by the Ukrainian side for provocations, because in Donetsk not only a specific date has been named, but also the exact time of the beginning of the proposed operation.

Comments

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

I ordered if Pushilin ..... I helped in any way I could in -15 ....... But I will cover the rear and flanks still ......

[Civil]

Just don't turn a tragedy into a circus

[Maz]

A light woke up in pitch darkness
And the price was given to God!
All bowed down, and brothers in Christ
Everything bent BUT not my Country!

It was a fruitful leap year
And death was drunk with blood!
The vault of the sky bent from the clouds of lead!
Everything bent BUT not my Country!

And again the Russian power is in the hands,
And life and death for the Motherland is a beauty!
Stands and holds the firmament for centuries!
My, not conquered country!

May it be destined to die on the cross
But do not bring us to our knees!
In the bloody pole - one for all!
Donbass stands and holds the firmament!

In the sky, the flame
In half the sky I could
Donbass is behind us,
And God is with us!

In the sky, the flame
In half the sky I could
Russia is with us,
And God is with us!

[Kronos]

I told you that there will be no such order.

[Revival]

Yes, I was blown away, but the most interesting thing is that he created the situation himself and got himself into trouble ..
Well, if the 9th silence, then it will be completely ...

[bayard]

Yes, just tomorrow, September 8, is the Day of Liberation of Donbass from the Nazi invaders. And tomorrow on the square to them. Lenin will perform Leps ...
Folk festivities.
Don't put a concert in jeopardy on feng shui.
And the shells were delivered to the artillery battalions ahead of time, combat excitement - a chance that this swamp will end ...
So nobody wanted to disrupt the concert and Liberation Day, let's start the next day.

[Revival]

It's a pity that he just found out that
September 8 - Day of the Liberation of Donbass from the German fascist invaders.

I had to drastically change plans ...

[Kronos]

The original date was September 3.

[bayard]

Do you really think that Pushhalin SAM (?) made such a decision - to destroy enemy positions by artillery fire?
In the context of just a more or less observed truce?
Look at the issue from a broader perspective - this is action on a much broader field.
What is happening in Belarus?
Who is the customer of this outrage?
And in the former Ukraine?
Pushilin is not at all the figure that can show PERSONAL initiative.
Zakharchenko - could.
But he was also stopped.
The ultimatum of the DPR and LPR, this is PRESSURE.
And to a much lesser extent to Ukraine ...

[bayard]

Do you really think that if the strong-willed, courageous and charismatic Zakharchenko could not always fulfill his intentions and threats, then Pushilin (about whom the glory is completely different) is flint?
And he makes decisions himself?
What was ordered - it sounded.

[Kronos]

I don't argue with that. but whether he is independent or not, empty show-offs will make the enemy become impudent.

[bayard]

Yes, these words and threats are not for Ukraine.
Just look at what is happening in the world, in Europe specifically, or, more precisely, in Germany. There already seems to have caved in (almost) under the amerskie demands of the SP-2 stop. And the Germans forgot about the squeaks ... sorry, Navalny was innocently poisoned.
And a lot of money has been invested in this stream.
And German too.
Therefore, once they caved in, then they broke.
Here is a hint of the consequences.
We look carefully:
- LDNR are not independent in such decisions, and therefore, since the ultimatum has been rolled out, it means THERE IS GOOD.
- And if a blow is struck at the Ukrainian positions, a couple of platoons will be mixed with the ground - at least.
Loss?
Yes .
Will there be a response?
Surely.
Does the LDNR know this?
Of course .
This means that not only LDNR, but also Russia (!) Is ready for the development of events - forcible suppression of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (minimum) or the Final Solution of the Ukrainian Question.
Is it logical?
Of course.
And if a big war resumes and Russia may take part in this as a GUARANTEE of the observance of the Minsk agreements (clause "e" gives the LDNR the right to equate these positions with the ground, and DOES NOT give the APU the right to respond to this).
Do you understand?
And if fighting, then what?
Then the main pipelines of the Ukrainian GTS are being removed from the system.
And Europe WITHOUT GAS.
During the heating season.
And SP-2 is not completed yet.
Through the fault of the caved in Germany.
War is like war.
* Who is to blame for everything?
- USA - because the enemy and all the evil of this world is from them (and England).
- Germany, because it caved in under the world's evil and stopped the project.
- Ukraine, because the enraged evil under external control and agreements (and treaties) does not comply.
* And who are our innocent victims and those in their own right?
Russia !
And LDNR, for the Truth is behind us, and point "e" is not "e" for you, it gives the Right.

In short, it is, as always, about GAS and Big Politics.
And we ... listen to Leps and go home.
And tomorrow will be day, there will be shells.
And there will be an order, only Ahura-Mazda knows.
And He knows EVERYTHING.

[Kronos]

A new cunning plan.

[bayard]

Quote: Kronos

A new cunning plan.

Ahura Mazda has everything according to plan.
As for Putin, I don't know.
And in politics everything is cunning and intricate.

[Grits]

Quote: Revival

Yes, I was blown away, but the most interesting thing is that he created the situation himself and got himself into trouble ..
Well, if the 9th silence, then it will be completely ...

So, out of nowhere, a person dropped his authority. If you initially knew that you would be pissing, why did you scream angrily, Comrade Pushilin?

[Avior]

Actually, on August 28, Pushilin threatened to fire until September 3. Then he moved it to September 7. Now at 9.
Today a video has appeared from positions from which no one is going to leave.
It is difficult to understand the logic behind such deliberately impossible threats. Why give impracticable demands? Now there is a truce, and to open fire is to disrupt it with a bang.
Moreover, the OSCE does not see any violations in these positions.
Is it distracting from the not very rosy economic situation in the LPNR?
I would have thought of something else.

[The leader of the Redskins]

"The boy said - the boy did, if the boy didn't, then the boy said again ..."

Ь Folklore 90s.

[Revival]

Well, how
Please be understanding ..

[Observer2014]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

"The boy said - the boy did, if the boy didn't, then the boy said again ..."

Ь Folklore 90s.

It’s very hard that under such news, there are no comments "Instrugent" Probably prevents and retells the ridiculously well-known Maidan technologies

[The leader of the Redskins]

Drawn more)))
With slogans, and torn screenshots of five years ago.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Drawn more)))
With slogans, and torn screenshots of five years ago.

Interestingly the Indians dance Where are these screenshots? ??

You lie, you blush, but you think that no one will notice this, because "The Leader of the Redskins"?

[The leader of the Redskins]

Well, at least here ...
Wasted time so that you wouldn't accuse me of being unfounded ...

Do you really think that the Armed Forces are fighting in 2015 uniform?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Do you really think that the Armed Forces are fighting in 2015 uniform?

Bravo, Leader! So to distort the facts you need to have an innate Hutsul gift Especially considering that my comment was about the item of equipment ukrovoyak in the photo to the article ""They look like the pioneers from the Soviet" Zarnitsa ": in Ukraine they comment on the training of cadets-marines", and looked like this (photo):

LEADER-LIE, INDIAN - PAY ATTENTION TO THE HIGHLIGHTED AND UNDERLINED TEXT(especially for people like you).

Quote: Evdokim

And finally the helmets are creative, probably from a bike or from a moped !!!

Quote: Insurgent

Look like an APU helmet made of "highly modulated polyethylene", which I "on trial" shot from the RPK-74.
Meters from 30. I thought I missed the recourse ... It turned out - no, "to take off" and the helmet did not even move on the hemp ...

And are considered "BULLET-RESISTANT"


And in addition (shortened):

"Money on blood" - a scandal in the Armed Forces of Ukraine: fighters bought helmets made of plastic, dermantine and burlap (PHOTOS)
08.02.2015 - 2: 34

Ukrainian activists first reported on the unsatisfactory results of testing helmets supplied to servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the ATO zone, and then entered into an absentee polemic with presidential adviser Biryukov, who fiercely defended these helmets.

Part 1.

“Money on blood.

And again a scandal in the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine! 05.02.15/XNUMX/XNUMX in Odessa, several volunteers who signed a contract with the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, decided to check the Kevlar helmets that the "caring motherland" issued to protect the little head in the war from any unforeseen circumstances.

The guys at the training ground put "super-strong" modern protection on the post and from a distance of 8 meters fired from a smooth-bore IZH with traditional TAKHO shot cartridges (caliber 16x70 shot 28, No. 9). It's not even a pistol or a machine gun.

The result, as always, amazed everyone present to the core !!! Instead of a super-durable Kevlar surface - brittle plastic that shattered to smithereens. Next - burlap, like a bag of sugar. Under this props there is a thick layer of glue, which, when cured, gives a roundness to the structure.

Inside the helmet there are scraps of dermantine, and the chin is made of scraps of dermantine, with huge seams that rub the chin to blood already at the tenth minute of wearing this helmet. All fasteners and weaves are the cheapest, breaking at the third fastening.

After what he saw, there is a great desire to put on these helmets all those who signed the purchase contracts and shoot them with a pistol or machine gun.

[The leader of the Redskins]

The conversation was about a screenshot from five years ago.
You can give an unequivocal answer to it: WAS or NO?
Or will you make excuses like a schoolboy who has not learned a lesson?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

The conversation was about a screenshot from five years ago.
You can give an unequivocal answer to it: WAS or NO?

Yes, of course there was , just not a screen, but a photo from the "Russian Spring" (article from the same place) and it was used as an illustration to my comment to the latest photo (2020) from the article,Where ukrovoyaki "fresh sample"appear in exactly the same helmets made of highly modulated polyethylene...

Where is the "crime", Leader? ? ? Or did you feel offended for the "state"? For ukrovermacht?

How long are you going to pull a snake against a hedgehog with your cheap and ridiculous claims?

[pereselenec]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

"The boy said - the boy did, if the boy didn't, then the boy said again ..."

What to take from the clown ...

[Alex Justice]

What did Pushilin want to say? Understood nothing. It seems like a master talk about nothing for hours.

[Revival]

And 2018 .....

[Kronos]

Yeah, and a couple of days ago, here cheers, the patriots got crazy almost to the borders.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Kronos

let's get there

What has changed?

[Kronos]

The fact that there will be nothing in the end, otherwise there would be no 3! hyphenation.

[Reviews]

Quote: Kronos

3! hyphenation.

= 6. When did you manage to do so much?

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Avis

=6

These guys are usually without education. They won't understand.

[Reviews]

Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver

Quote: Avis

=6

These guys are usually without education. They won't understand.

Uh-huh. But sometimes you want to be an optimist ...

[Kronos]

I wrote 3. Where did you get 6 from?

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Kronos

I wrote 3. Where did you get 6 from?

Rt

[Reviews]

Quote: Kronos

I wrote 3. Where did you get 6 from?

Do not worry. This is beyond the reach of the mindless.

[Kronos]

Pathetic rudeness, a worthy answer.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Kronos

Pathetic rudeness

And this:

Quote: Kronos

cheers - the patriots got crazy

Not pathetic rudeness?

[Kronos]

No, I didn't offend anyone. Hurray patriots really wrote this.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

The use of the word "hurray" next to the word "patriots" is in itself offensive and is intended to devalue the latter. You should stop doing this.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Kronos

That there will be nothing

Was - will be, now - will not be?
What are you writing about? Or do you just want to use "hurray-patriots" again?

[Nestor]

Our media write that Pushilin has something wrong with the "degrees", well, the artillery has been tightened
But seriously, most likely, it was necessary to force Kuleba to call Lavrov, but this is so "speculative"

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

Well, since the words of Mr. Pushilin are worthless, then maybe they shouldn't be replicated and discussed?

[mag nit]

And to answer for the market? DNI is not MMM.

[bars1]

Looks like MOSCOW did not agree. But in vain.

[memory]

Quote: bars1

Looks like MOSCOW did not agree. But in vain.

Most likely it is .. The time has not come yet!
So far we do not need such a serious operation .. Howl will start all over the world!

[alexmach]

I don’t know who agreed there and who didn’t, but they did everything right, except for chatter naturally. If you hit positions, you should have hit without warning. If you start conversations, decide already by talking.

[Deniska999]

Moscow now has a mouth full of worries, not to the forgotten war.

[Vladimir Mazanov]

Let the Nord Stream finish building calmly)

[Igoresha]

well clownery ... what year did you postpone did not specify?)))

[Wwk7260]

MMM, Russian Spring, Novorossia, DNR-LPR, LDNR, ORDLO, Pushilin, Ultimatum .... MMM.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Wwk7260

MMM, Russian Spring, Novorossia, DNR-LPR, LDNR, ORDLO, Pushilin, Ultimatum .... MMM.

Rothschildosoros world, ukraYna from syang to don, uer, unso unsa, waltzman, zelensky, sanctions, glory to essbu and vmSUK!

[Revival]

Hmm ...
This is called how to create a shameful situation with your own hands and plunge into it in full

[anjey]

This Bluff describes a just cause, strength and holy confidence in one's own righteousness in the struggle for the truth in Donbass.

[parusnik]

Back on August 28, when Pushilin set the first liquidation date, he wrote a comment: Stocking up on popcorn .. minus, fiercely .. and on September 9, nothing will happen ... Let me explain, the Armed Forces are just waiting for this offensive to destroy the DPR .. and the Russian army will not intervene, this is not an option for South Ossetia .. Do not forget, Russia stands for the territorial integrity of the 404 state and a special status Donbass within this state ..

[Livonetc]

I will not debate what Russia stands for.
But the fact that the "transfer" originates directly from Moscow is extremely likely.
Or rather, not a transfer, but a direct and rigid instruction to "set aside".

[BAI]

So who happily threw in me cons and foaming at the mouth argued that the fearful ukry dug everything themselves?

-3
Earlier, the head of the DPR demanded that Kiev withdraw its troops from the contact line in order to fully comply with the agreements.

He promised today to destroy the engineering fortifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the gray strip. And where is the result? Today, there will simply be no more messages from there.
Reply
Quote
A complaint
Insurgent
Insurgent
Today, 10: 09

+3
Quote: BAI
He promised today to destroy the engineering fortifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the gray strip. And where is the result?

Quote: Adam Khomich
“Everyone who could have come to us, from the OSCE to the staff officers. The fighters have already been taken out of these strongholds, the trenches are already being dug. Of course, it's unpleasant. It turns out that the separatists are already in command of us, '' Strana.ua quotes the Ukrainian officer.


With an ultimatum, WITHOUT A SINGLE SHOT, the dill were forced to bury the trenches that not so long ago, they themselves dug.

Quote: BAI
Today, there will simply be no more messages from there.


What other posts on this topic do you need? What is not clear ?

This is the message that everything is canceled and all empty chatter was needed.

[parusnik]

Yes, not you alone for this chatter ...

[ivymotek]

MMMy clown

[Mountain shooter]

You can't threaten the impossible ... especially with weapons. Bared the barrel - shoot ... He (Pushilin) ​​did not act well. Lost face, as they say in the east ...

[parusnik]

Especially with weapons. Bared the barrel - shoot ...

.. I recalled an episode from the movie "The Good, the Bad, the Ugly" ... Remember, when the bad one lies in the bathroom, bathes .. And one of his victims comes in, with one hand and begins to explain how he trained for a long time to shoot left hand ... bad, just shot him with the words: I came to shoot, so shoot ... here is a similar situation ..

[Alex Justice]

Is it worth it? Each shell costs money. Each funnel is a new trench for the Nazis.

[Mik1701]

My neighbor from Gorlovka does not name this character otherwise than “chipushilin”.

[APASUS]

Pushilin shouldn't throw words like that .......... people don't understand

[Clear]

I do not understand the indignation about the shooting that did not take place .
And thank God that the war in Donbass was postponed (postponed), and how many people remained alive. Moreover, some have fled from there and are now teasing, they say, shoot. In general, perhaps without brains? Your mothers do not hear this, you would have repulsed with a belt.

[Vladimir Mazanov]

Now the submissive generals will be minded. Honor is more important to them than other people's lives. Hussars are pensioners. And in fact, they are dragged along when people kill each other, sick people.

[Revival]

It's a pity that honor is worthless to you.
Well, at least we know your "position" ..

[Kronos]

The fact is that someone promised a formidable answer, but this is the problem.

[bald]

In general, the commanders-in-chief, they are responsible for their words, unfortunately, it just stinks. It refers to us (and without the ensuing consequences - yes, no how - at least kill me, they did not finish off the dirt, dividing free things in Russia, and now, (pancakes (yes, yes to you, for the word vegetable horseradish), the people are raking - a female breed of dogs you, and you yourself know about it corrupt.

[thrust]

you do not understand anything, sorry.
to declare yourself, you can only declare yourself.
let, too, "show-off pounding", as well as the enemy.
normal running.

[Kronos]

When everyone knows that there is no action, there is no effect.

[Vladimir Mazanov]

To the sofas, if only "" answer for the words "" And no one thinks about lives. The sharks are bloodthirsty, just to bask in the news about the war. The truce goes on and let it go.

[Lontus]

Quote: Vladimir Mazanov

To the sofas, if only "" answer for the words "" And no one thinks about lives. The sharks are bloodthirsty, just to bask in the news about the war. The truce goes on and let it go.

What other truce?
Already 40 militias have died during this time.
Shame on the .hppshnik.

[Livonetc]

What are "hppshniki"?

[Kronos]

This is where Ukraine will freeze, fall apart.

[Lontus]

During these days, about 40 Russian militias were killed.
And the cunning creatures still prohibit responding to the fire of the Ukrainian scum.

[thrust]

40 militias died in a day of light, and the cunning creatures are still

[Kelwin]

Che, point press-press ...

[Sasha from Uralmash]

You cannot win a fight in eternal defense!