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Peskov commented on the sensational negotiations "Nika and Mike", published by Minsk

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Peskov commented on the sensational negotiations "Nika and Mike", published by Minsk

Press Secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov, at the request of journalists, commented on the intercepted conversation between a certain Nick and Mike presented by Minsk the other day. The publication of these negotiations was previously announced by Lukashenka, stating that they were conducted between Warsaw and Berlin. After the publication on the Internet, a variety of judgments appeared, including the expressed irony about the statement that “the president of Belarus turned out to be a tough nut to crack”.


According to Dmitry Peskov, the special services should judge the value of the audio recording.

Sands:

And they (special services) do it.

A spokesman for Vladimir Putin added that the special services will also investigate the question of whether the audio recording provided by Belarus is genuine.

Sands:

This is a special material.

Earlier in Germany and Poland, the published recordings of the conversation were called a fake. It is alleged that in Berlin "no one discussed" with Warsaw the poisoning of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny.

Also, the head of the Kremlin press service confirmed the information that Alexander Lukashenko will soon visit the Russian Federation. According to Peskov, preparations for this are very active today.

Let us recall the essence of the very conversation that was presented on Belarusian TV:

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  1. Maz
    Maz 7 September 2020 15: 27 New
    10
    I imagine, as it were, howling in the West and in Israel, if it were an interception between the special services of Russia and Belarus for example Navalny or Tikhonovskaya! And then they were silent for two days both in Warsaw and in Berlin, and then they were born together quietly
    and disowned. We could have done it faster, but it seems they were looking for the one who blabbed it out. I need to give them a poster, sho chatterbox is a godsend for a spy
    1. Fedor Sokolov
      Fedor Sokolov 7 September 2020 15: 32 New
      -9
      That's it! The overly calm reaction of our authorities is perceived by the "partners" as weakness and a signal that Russia should be put even more pressure on.
      1. Alexander I
        Alexander I 7 September 2020 15: 45 New
        10
        I agree it is necessary to shout from all the irons about the conspiracy of NATO henchmen, and let them make excuses that this is not so. And this interception will not be enough, to slap a few more and launch it in the information field, and if they ask about the evidence, refer to secrecy.
        1. Temples
          Temples 7 September 2020 16: 54 New
          -2
          Quote: AlexanderI
          I agree that you have to shout from all the irons

          Cleverly wassat

          The Kremlin just sent n_aher. good

          Recall
          German granny blurted out about the newbie
          and then the Germans began to chase - don't touch the SP-2! SP-2 to be! No sanctions!

          And you are going to shout into the iron. wink laughing

          And today Lyokha got well.
          They say Kondraty went to visit another oppositionist. laughing
          1. Alexander I
            Alexander I 8 September 2020 08: 35 New
            0
            One does not interfere with the other, and we can find healthy forces that will declare world peace and SP2 to be.
    2. Finches
      Finches 7 September 2020 15: 47 New
      +4
      By the way, the kids rightly said that this is a war - a war against Russia, and we have partners, partners ... What kind of partners are they, mother of God? Enemies! And if Navalny works for them, then he should be sent to the felling without any lisp! And not to be treated in Germany to let go, "the prison has the same infirmary ... "!
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 7 September 2020 15: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        and we have partners, partners ...

        This is just a polite and nothing more ... Everyone understands everything, including the "partners".
        1. Finches
          Finches 7 September 2020 15: 58 New
          +4
          In one place this polity - it was good in the USSR, when 6 armies, of which two tank, three combined-arms and one air were on the territory of East Germany and from the headquarters of the GSVG in Wündsdorf to Paris was 800 km!
          1. Alross
            Alross 7 September 2020 17: 28 New
            +2
            There, in the GSVG, there were also units of group subordination such as air defense divisions-corps, DShBr, Nuclear Waste Storage Bases - RTB, PRTB, etc.
      2. Memor
        Memor 7 September 2020 16: 14 New
        +6
        Quote: Finches
        By the way, the kids rightly said that this is a war - a war against Russia, and we have partners, partners ... What kind of partners are they, mother of God? Enemies!

        Yes, they already openly call Russia enemy number 1 .. And we all if only to offend someone
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 September 2020 15: 53 New
      -1
      Quote: Maz
      And then they were silent for two days both in Warsaw and in Berlin, and then they were born together quietly

      And what else is there for them to do. They lit up in full.
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    5. halpat
      halpat 7 September 2020 16: 10 New
      0
      Again Mr. Peskov began to make excuses!
      Yes, it's life!
      For now, the Russians will make excuses and will smear them with mud.
      Directly some kind of genetic code ... but forgive me please, pardon, merci, schuldigen zi bitte, yes noh ain mal ...
      But it is necessary - Hitler Kaput and Hyundai Hoh! The other style is shorter.

      Lavrov and Peskov are not military consigliere.
    6. Fantazer911
      Fantazer911 7 September 2020 17: 03 New
      0
      Sho talker in the west, this is a godsend for Belarusian specialists!
    7. Maz
      Maz 7 September 2020 20: 35 New
      +7
      Quote: Maz
      I imagine, as it were, howling in the West and in Israel, if it were an interception between the special services of Russia and Belarus for example Navalny or Tikhonovskaya! And then they were silent for two days both in Warsaw and in Berlin, and then they were born together quietly
      and disowned. We could have done it faster, but it seems they were looking for the one who blabbed it out. I need to give them a poster, sho chatterbox is a godsend for a spy

      Here is the opinion of a more serious person from the pool of journalists:
      "Warsaw - Berlin". The one who laughs last laughs well

      To be honest, I couldn’t share the general fun yesterday on the topic of Lukashenka’s tapes. And not even because the stakes in the current situation are high enough, but because I have seen “bullshit” and bullshit in this life ...
      For example, Colin Powell with a test tube. And also the Kuwaiti girl Naira, who in the US Congress talked about how she "saw with her own eyes how armed Iraqi soldiers rushed into the hospital, threw newborn babies out of incubators and left them to die on the cold floor." And White Helmets. And the Bana girl's Twitter. And the Malaysian Boeing court. And the poisoning of the Skripals. And the murder of Nemtsov. And the current big top with Charite and Navalny ...
      Of course, you can make fun of Lukashenka.
      But it is better to remember how many times we tried to conduct a dialogue with our Western partners in high calm and what results did we achieve?
      We give them a full account of Buk, and they give us "investigations" of the Insider, Bellingket and the SBU.
      We give them the whole alignment of Novichok, and they give us the Skripals' cat.
      We give them a constructive dialogue on Syria, and they give us staged chemical attacks.
      We give them an invitation to Crimea, and they tell us about the genocide of the Tatars and the fantasies of the "Mejlis".
      And every time in the bargain - a tub of slops on the front pages of their rags and sanctions, sanctions, sanctions.
      And now, in Belarus, the Poles are fighting with the Lithuanians, Navalny is generally not clear how and where, but we are already to blame. And they are already ready to punish us.
      Remember what one smart man said? If a fight is inevitable, hit first. So they hit. Moreover, they did it in a simple and understandable way for this public. They rolled out the conversation. The other side will now have to make excuses for which. And she will have to prove that everything is not so simple. And we will watch their movements. And to any attempts to disown interference in the internal affairs of Russia and Belarus, to do the same person as they did when they accused us of the Boeing crash, the Skripal poisoning, the murder of Nemtsov and other events in which we were initially assigned guilty.
      So you can, of course, continue to laugh now.
      But the one who laughs last laughs well.

      PS And I am truly sorry for Navalny. For until recently he was the "leader of the opposition", and now, right before our eyes, he is turning not even into an extra, but into a decoration. Which, with an unwavering hand, the directors of the play, in which he was promised the main role, will be replaced during the intermission
      a.
      1. Maz
        Maz 7 September 2020 20: 38 New
        +1
        One thing I cannot understand: why all these awesome specialists on revolutions are still in London, Moscow, Kiev, Paris, Berlin, Warsaw, etc. and from there give their valuable advice? What's not in Minsk? Is it really scary? Or, even worse, they just work out three kopecks?
        “... they would be the first to be terribly unhappy if Russia were somehow suddenly restructured, even if only in their own way, and somehow suddenly became immensely rich and happy. Then they would have no one to hate, no one to spit on, nothing to scoff at! There is only one animal, endless hatred for Russia, ingrained into the body ... "
        F.M. Dostoevsky, "Demons"
        1. Arthur73
          Arthur73 8 September 2020 14: 46 New
          0
          Russia is not being rebuilt in their way, despite their centuries-old attempts, which is why they rage.
    8. Maz
      Maz 7 September 2020 20: 54 New
      +1

      trump dragged to bulk all sho remembered
    9. Roman1970_1
      Roman1970_1 8 September 2020 14: 43 New
      -1
      I imagine howling in the West and Israel,


      To whom who, but Israel does not care about Navalny.
      Do you write the names of your loved ones or, in general, your own name, too, with a small letter?
      I advise you to stop writing and go back to school.
  2. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 7 September 2020 15: 28 New
    +7
    Certainly genuine. They do not bother to prove their insinuations with evidence. They just "know". So we just know.
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 7 September 2020 15: 38 New
      -1
      It is alleged that in Berlin "no one discussed" with Warsaw the poisoning of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny.

      It is a pity that US intelligence did not issue a statement that none of their employees in Germany and Poland discussed this. laughing
      Terminology: "there is a war" points directly to the American ears. bully
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 September 2020 15: 29 New
    +3
    Modern analyzers will analyze this speech "into molecules", fortunately, there is something to compare with. The interlocutors are known.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 7 September 2020 15: 32 New
      12
      The whole problem is that the same "Nikam and Mike" don't care what the "tough nut" Lukashenka presented there. The sanctions against SP-2 were spelled out as consequences of the fact that "Annushka spilled oil" - that is, even before Navalny got on the plane. That's all there is to it
      1. Alexy
        Alexy 7 September 2020 15: 47 New
        +1
        I think even earlier
  4. Karaul73
    Karaul73 7 September 2020 15: 32 New
    +5
    TASS is authorized to declare. Plunged into childhood. My personal opinion is a lime tree. Who talks like that! What was this conversation for? The information content is zero. Especially the phrase - President Lukashenko and a tough nut to crack. Laughter.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 7 September 2020 15: 34 New
      16
      Quote: Sentry73
      Laughter.

      Well, at least no more laughter than another "non-lethal Rookie poisoning"
      1. Karaul73
        Karaul73 7 September 2020 15: 40 New
        -4
        Or maybe he doesn't take Russians. Only scares!
        1. Volodin
          Volodin 7 September 2020 15: 46 New
          +6
          Quote: Sentry73
          Or maybe he doesn't take Russians. Only scares!

          And only because of this, the "bloody gebnya", as Western experts explain to us, is used by "Novichok" and Petrov and Boshirov? .. laughing
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 7 September 2020 15: 47 New
      +8
      Quote: Sentry73
      My personal opinion is a lime tree.

      Perhaps, but there are no more lindens than
      than the next "non-lethal poisoning by the Novice" uh "Mr. Navalny

      A chemical warfare agent.
      1. Avior
        Avior 7 September 2020 15: 58 New
        -4
        I remember that the Aum Senerike sect in Tokyo poisoned about 5000 people in the subway with a chemical warfare agent.
        Do you know how many out of 5000 people died from a chemical warfare agent? Either 10 or 12 people.
        There are different results, too many factors.
        1. Volodin
          Volodin 7 September 2020 16: 27 New
          +3
          Quote: Avior
          I remember that the Aum Senerike sect in Tokyo poisoned about 5000 people in the subway with a chemical warfare agent.
          Do you know how many out of 5000 people died from a chemical warfare agent? Either 10 or 12 people.

          So it turns out that in the case of Navalny again these "losers" from Aum Senrikyo ... The goal is one, there are no victims. Awesome ... Or "they hounded the whole plane," and only Navalny got poisoned? ..

          But if it is extremely serious, then the official Japanese data on the terrorist attack in the Tokyo subway is still those "data". Something like with Fukushima: "everything is fine, there are no victims, the station is under control" ... They are still "controlled", and the level of radiation in the water at the station is prohibitive.
          1. Avior
            Avior 7 September 2020 16: 34 New
            -1
            Do you have your own confirmed data that 5000 people died there? Well, imagine it will be a sensation, you are the only one who has them.
            And the rest understand that there are a lot of nuances and the result can be very different, even in the case of a chemical warfare agent.
            There is no point in commenting about "the whole plane was hunted", no one claims it.
            1. Volodin
              Volodin 7 September 2020 16: 46 New
              0
              Quote: Avior
              Do you have your own confirmed data that 5000 people died there? Well, imagine it will be a sensation, you are the only one who has them.

              Don't be so nervous. You have just announced that "5000 people died" there. I just said that the official data from the Japanese authorities do not always correspond to reality and deserve indispensable trust. The very wording that “either 10 people died, or 12, or 27 (as in the Japanese official version)” looks more than strange. Have not they counted yet ...
              1. Avior
                Avior 7 September 2020 17: 43 New
                0
                At least ten people died there, at least 27, at least 5000 injured in general, at least 6300 - all these figures can be found - what does it change in the fact that when using chemical warfare agents there is no question of any general mortality?
    3. Olgovich
      Olgovich 7 September 2020 15: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: Sentry73
      TASS is authorized to declare. Plunged into childhood. My personal opinion is a lime tree. Who talks like that! What was this conversation for? The information content is zero.

      do you think there are some unusual people working there and conducting conversations in a different way?

      Let me remind you of the intercepted conversation between Nuland and her famous: "Fuc..ing EU! Etc ..."
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 7 September 2020 18: 40 New
        0
        Intercepted conversation between Berlin and Warsaw:

        - Yes?
        - Hello!
        - Yes Yes?
        - Well, how is it with the poisoning of Navalny?
        - AND?
        - How about Navalny's poisoning?
        - What's with Navalny?
        - What?
        - Where are you calling?
        - I'm calling you.
        - To whom?
        - Well, you.
        - Who do you want?
        - And here you are.
        - Who are you?
        - Mike
    4. Romka
      Romka 7 September 2020 16: 36 New
      -1
      From the fable "The Hermit and the Bear" (1807) by I. A. Krylov (1769-1844):
      Although the service is dear to us when needed,
      But not everyone knows how to tackle it:
      God forbid to contact the fool!
      Helpful is more dangerous than the enemy.
    5. GRIGORIY76
      GRIGORIY76 7 September 2020 19: 03 New
      -2
      To understand that this is a fake, it is enough to look at Mishustin's face at the moment when the cockroach told him this.
  5. Alexander X
    Alexander X 7 September 2020 15: 32 New
    0
    Everyone blames each other and everyone denies everything. To believe something in this case is a matter of "religion". The media publish fakes, which reduces the reliability of all information to zero.
    Likewise with historical materials and books, each author writes what he wants.
    Kingdom of crooked mirrors.
    What time we live!
    1. edmed
      edmed 7 September 2020 16: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexander X
      What time we live!

      "In our time, you can't trust anyone, even yourself, you can trust me." wink But it depends on the position on which side, in general, "Our scout, not our spies"
      Quote: Alexander X
      The media publish fakes, which reduces the reliability of all information to zero.
      Likewise with historical materials and books, each author writes what he wants.

      The main thing here is to create a hubbub, so that the listener waved his hand - "Oh, yes, you all go!", So that later on a sweet drop, pour in the necessary, the technologies are worked out.
  6. Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 7 September 2020 15: 34 New
    +1
    Earlier in Germany and Poland, the published recordings of the conversation were called a fake.

    Let them prove that this is a fake. What is the problem? These are their methods, they are experts in this.
    1. avia12005
      avia12005 7 September 2020 15: 37 New
      +7
      It would be logical if the Russian Federation began to overwhelm the West with such plums that it forgot about provocations. am
      1. Senka naughty
        Senka naughty 7 September 2020 15: 43 New
        0
        It will do as a one-time "action", but it will be more expensive for itself to enter into a long-term information confrontation with the West. It's like playing with a katala, it's tempting, but the result will be the same. They have already devoured more than one country on this. Victims of provocations are just waiting.
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 7 September 2020 15: 49 New
          +4
          You can play, but only according to your own rules, turning over the chair and chandelier along the skull ...
        2. avia12005
          avia12005 7 September 2020 16: 21 New
          0
          Otherwise it is impossible, they have more experience in such machinations, they will crush.
  7. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 7 September 2020 15: 46 New
    +7
    Well, here's a ready-made position: the incident with Navalny and the events in Belarus are Russophobic intrigues of Germany and Poland. We have direct evidence of this, but we will not show it, since we can betray our agents, and therefore, that evidence is secret.
    Moreover, we have an audio recording and very secret and indisputable evidence of its authenticity, which, for obvious reasons, we will not show either.
    The fact that Germany and Poland deny the authenticity of the audio recording, their interference in the internal affairs of Belarus and the attempt to kill Russian citizen Navalny is the natural behavior of criminals and murderers! Thus, they only aggravate their guilt and confirm their deeds!
    Based on the foregoing, it is necessary to demand from them material compensation, payments ... well, at least ... 15 yards of euros in favor of Russia in solidarity (this will be what the aircraft carrier will be built for)
  8. APASUS
    APASUS 7 September 2020 15: 54 New
    +2
    The text is somewhat strange, not at all in style. Roughly speaking, this is what they want to hear, that's what they heard ........
    But the authorship is never recognized by the Germans and Poles, it's a bomb if it turns out to be true!
  9. prior
    prior 7 September 2020 15: 54 New
    -1
    In fact, in the situation with Navalny, Germany provided Russia with Casus belli.
    I would like our politicians not to look like whipping boys and to adequately respond to this German trick.
    But alas, there is no Stalin among the leadership of Russia, not even Khrushchev.
    There is only Lavrov, who can only mutter under his breath - D ... B ... or express concern.
  10. ont65
    ont65 7 September 2020 15: 58 New
    0
    The funny thing is that here, as in the case of Skripal, chemists appear in the plot 'by chance in passing' and immediately declare that doctors are dealing with chemical warfare agents. Coincidence? - Hold your pocket wider! Obviously, the army is also being used in the West to work with political media companies. The war does not have clear directions and is being fought on all flanks, this can be stated with confidence.
  11. gatamelata
    gatamelata 7 September 2020 16: 00 New
    -5
    The KGB is not going to give the crazy dictator such a linden.
    Stars on shoulder straps do not take off by themselves.
    I used to like the conversation between Alyosha and Browder, but the Belarusians were able to do better.
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok 7 September 2020 17: 38 New
      0
      Quote: gatamelata
      The KGB is not going to give the crazy dictator such a linden.
      Stars on shoulder straps do not take off by themselves.
      I used to like the conversation between Alyosha and Browder, but the Belarusians were able to do better.

      Only now he laughs all over the daddy. There is no other name for "strong potatoes" laughing
    2. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 8 September 2020 11: 50 New
      -1
      Quote: gatamelata
      The KGB is not going to give the crazy dictator such a linden.


      I have no respect for our KGB, but I don’t think that they are too stupid.
  12. Anton S
    Anton S 7 September 2020 16: 02 New
    +1
    Peskov simply cannot remember the title of the film from which the dialogue is taken.
  13. Kushka
    Kushka 7 September 2020 16: 06 New
    +2
    In, in - let them prove! I demand!
    Who hasn't seen a hand-scored goal? So what?
    The essence is not important, the process is important. At the foot
    Olympus can be the whole herd, you can even
    spread out. But at the top - God forbid to stand for a moment
    on one leg (greetings from Yanukovych). On the world
    the top is "working with elbows" on all fronts
    and it gives its result. Remember the place of Russia
    in the world (politics, economics). Russian squadron at
    shores of the United States 300 years ago! Next place of the USSR
    in the world. Now look around (17 million km, "trampoline",
    claims to the SMP, doping genocide of the Russian
    sports, the Japanese with the islands, then themselves).
    And you again yours - this is a goal by hand! So what? At least five.
    It also directly says - to drown in your problems.
    Donbass, Crimea, Armenia, Georgia, Japan, SP-2, import
    replacement (greetings from the Navy) - lock Russia on its own
    backyard, so as not to interfere with "bull" on Olympus.
  14. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 7 September 2020 16: 06 New
    0
    I agree with Peskov. Special material. Special services will figure it out. Fake or not.
  15. askort154
    askort154 7 September 2020 16: 15 New
    +2
    And I was more attracted by this quote from Peskov.

    Also, the head of the Kremlin press service confirmed the information that Alexander Lukashenko will soon visit the Russian Federation. According to Peskov, preparations for this are very active today.

    Something this meeting gets a lot of attention. As if something very important is being prepared. Not a trip, but a visit! Two "killed", and one commonplace, come to my mind:
    1st. Lukashenko relinquishes the powers of the President of the Republic of Belarus (for health reasons, like the Japanese Abe) with the transfer of powers to the announced person;
    2nd. Lukashenka signs a joint document with Russia, a new union treaty, with major changes (after all, Mishustin went to Belarus for some reason?).
    And the third, the most commonplace, is that Russia is providing a large loan to Belarus.
    1. Terrible
      Terrible GMO 7 September 2020 19: 27 New
      -1
      Quote: askort154
      Well, the 4th, the most commonplace is Russia

      Lukashenka does not provide a large loan or discounts on gas, and he again begins to transfer paratroopers and tanks to the eastern border laughing
  16. Alexander Sosnitsky
    Alexander Sosnitsky 7 September 2020 16: 26 New
    +2
    It still looks like a fake. Or I'll set it up. Old Man really wants to be fond of Uncle Vova. Dad is ready to set everyone up
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 7 September 2020 18: 42 New
      +2
      Interception of a telephone conversation from West Berlin to Zhitomir:
      - Listen, Mike, there is a war, but how damn prettier Moscow was under Sergei Semenovich Sobyanin!
  17. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 7 September 2020 16: 48 New
    +2
    what are they making noise about? did you listen to this conversation? what difference does it make if it is genuine or not, no one says that he was not poisoned, there is some person who expressed his opinion that it does not matter now, and that's it, he did not say that he was not poisoned
  18. Maks1995
    Maks1995 7 September 2020 16: 55 New
    +4
    Ha
    The West is simply obsolete.
    "Die hard", "this is war", "pinch your nose" ...
    Apparently, the yellow spy detectives were rereading for some time to get into the topic at all ...
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 8 September 2020 09: 11 New
      -1
      Strong potatoes ..
  19. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 7 September 2020 16: 56 New
    +3
    Oops! The slain Lech is resurrected! We are waiting for the second act of the Marlezon ballet ...
    The Berlin clinic "Charite" has just reported that the condition of the Russian blogger Alexei Navalny has improved and he has been removed from a medical coma.
  20. Sanche
    Sanche 7 September 2020 17: 00 New
    +2
    Peskov made every effort not to laugh. It is obvious.
    The text of the conversation is designed, well, how to put it mildly, for a very low intelligence
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 8 September 2020 09: 11 New
      -1
      So you just took and gave an unsightly description of a significant part of our valiant army ..
      There seems to be a decent mass in uniform, however ..))
  21. Charik
    Charik 7 September 2020 18: 06 New
    -1
    This is a commentary - everything is clear and clear - I will be brief
  22. Redline
    Redline 7 September 2020 20: 38 New
    -1
    The media write the Germans brought him out of a coma, soon everything will come true
  23. Roman070280
    Roman070280 8 September 2020 09: 08 New
    -2
    They have already pulled up to disgrace themselves with this "interception" ..
    Actually, even the shameless Peskov hesitated to speak out about the "value" of a conversation in which people initially call up on an absolutely useless reason .. and only talk about how they know that they are being listened to ..

    My affectionate and gentle friend .. I called you to tell you - in war all means are good .. and by doing this we will disaccustom Putin to pry into the affairs of Belarus .. Thank you for the meaningful conversation ..
  24. Rusticolus
    Rusticolus 8 September 2020 19: 45 New
    0
    Here, many said, they say the state security of Belarus burned out, having caught the interception. And if we admit it was not their interception? It's just that he became available to them due to a coincidence. And they only voiced it? And let NATO look for a black cat where it is not. Lukoshenko did not say that they intercepted it, he said that they received a certain record that they made public. About how and where they got it from, there was no speech.