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"We are facing losses of the level of World War II": in the US Air Force on the risks of future wars

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It is time for the United States to face the truth and acknowledge that its current combat strength cannot guarantee the conduct of an easy war far from its home shores.


This opinion was made by the Chief of Staff of the United States Air Force, General Charles K. Brown, Jr. as part of a report intended for the media. According to him, it is now necessary to use the window of opportunity, while it still exists, in order to "accelerate change" in the military.

We cannot predict the future, but we can definitely shape it.

- the general notes.

The country's Air Force has "enjoyed a historically anomalous period of dominance" since Operation Desert Storm, he explains. As a result, they have become a force "feared and envied throughout the world." However, the opponents over the past three decades have not dozed, but worked on how to confront the United States. First of all, this concerns "the two main competitors - Russia and China."

Ultimately, a situation arose in which "future wars will not remain far from our shores." It is also necessary to take into account the prospective losses in the course of the expected conflicts: according to the general, one should prepare to withstand the "rates of combat depletion and risks" comparable to the Second World War:

It will be disgraceful for the Air Force if they continue to ignore the issue of potential levels of combat attrition [...] We must be prepared for this.
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  1. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 7 September 2020 09: 12 New
    12
    The militaristic empire only thinks about military domination and submission to its interests of the whole world.
    1. Maz
      Maz 7 September 2020 09: 26 New
      +8
      They just put what they need in the brains of the man in the street. Since there will be losses, then it is necessary to create a reserve so that more than once to compensate for the losses, it means they will ask for more money from the budget under the guise of a presidential race in the states, shaking the skeletons of PMV and speculation of PR people.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 7 September 2020 09: 31 New
      +8
      "We are facing losses of the level of World War II": in the US Air Force on the risks of future wars

      According to official data, the United States lost 418000 people killed in WWII; according to unofficial data, this figure is much higher. 671278 soldiers were injured and 130 Americans were considered prisoners of war, and 201 are missing.

      And the losses, I think, will be more if the United States decides to unleash a world massacre, and the shame of defeat is incomparable with the flight from Vietnam ...
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 7 September 2020 13: 17 New
        +4
        Quote: Insurgent
        According to official figures, the United States lost 418000 people killed in WWII

        The United States counts the killed only for the sake of appearance, especially since in comparison with the rest, they got off, so to speak, with little blood. But if you count how the states got fat in two world wars (while Europe was in ruins), this is the main question. For the sake of such a bonus, they can easily plunge the world into another world war. Only now, they won't sit out overseas. The world has become very small. If there is a big mess, then the whole world is in dust. Only blacks in Africa and Indians in the Amazon will survive. It's good that in America, at least someone thinks about it. And Western politicians do not give a damn, they rattle their weapons in front of China, and at the borders of Russia, and in the Middle East, everywhere. You might think that they have a spare planet on which they can sit out.
        1. kuzimka
          kuzimka 8 September 2020 19: 07 New
          -1
          Cool reasoning, Stalin after the war decided to declare losses of 7 million, at the 20th congress they charged 20 million, now they write 27 million, and who is bolder and all 42 million. Strange analysts, you never knew how many people died in the WWII of the USSR, but that's all tryndite about the loss of the United States. Wake up, miserable ...
      2. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 7 September 2020 14: 34 New
        +7
        "We are facing losses of the level of the Second World War"
        - By God - some incorrigible OPTIMISTS.
        They are waiting for the STALIN STRAIGHT - the strait between Canada and Mexico ...
        1. boni592807
          boni592807 7 September 2020 18: 54 New
          +2
          tikhonov66 (Andrey), Today, 14:34, NEW
          "We are facing losses of the level of the Second World War"
          - By God - some incorrigible OPTIMISTS.
          They are waiting for the STALIN STRAIGHT - the strait between Canada and Mexico ...


          This must be "brought" to ordinary Americans, no matter how! fool Toli "new" "Munich speech" GDP or as an argument of Trump in the elections against J. Biden. Defeat Hillary Clinton (Baden with the reality of a transition to his Vice President, or rather, those who, instead of a "pensive" and hanging old man and an active but far from real control of the process of a lady, this could have started earlier. Not immediately, the Anaconda plan began and reliance on satellites along the perimeter of the Russian Federation and reliance on internal forces in the Russian Federation. bully
          Once VVP said, "... If there is no Russia in the WORLD, why do we need this WORLD ...!"
          Even if they succeed ... then: "Poseidons" and like min-mum "Hand of Death" themselves "will solve" the issue. What difference does it make where (Yellowstone or the coast) and what sequence ... Their hypothetical "victory" will be accompanied by the sound of the waves of the Strait ... And there is even no point in counting them millions. ... crying
    3. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 7 September 2020 09: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: Fedor Sokolov
      only thinks about military domination


      What else should the Air Force Chief of Staff think about? This is his job.
    4. Arthur73
      Arthur73 7 September 2020 09: 56 New
      +6
      They will not climb with their warriors and democracy in other states, but they will live exclusively in their own USA, they will not lose their soldiers!
    5. Vdi73
      Vdi73 7 September 2020 13: 51 New
      0
      The normal desire of the empire and Russia must think in the same way.
    6. Clear
      Clear 7 September 2020 20: 17 New
      +2
      "We are facing losses of the level of World War II": in the US Air Force on the risks of future wars

      This is at its best.
  2. lucul
    lucul 7 September 2020 09: 16 New
    +8
    "We are facing losses of the level of World War II": in the US Air Force on the risks of future wars

    Do you have brains? Or did they not conduct an educational program on nuclear exchange of strikes (results)?
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 7 September 2020 09: 35 New
      +8
      Judging by the fact that
      Quote: lucul
      educational program on nuclear exchange of strikes (results) they did not conduct

      the question itself
      Quote: lucul
      Do you have brains?
      falls away
  3. svp67
    svp67 7 September 2020 09: 17 New
    +9
    "We are facing losses of the level of World War II": in the US Air Force on the risks of future wars
    And the number of aircraft clearly does not correspond to this ... And it seems to me that the losses will be much higher.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 7 September 2020 09: 26 New
      -5
      Therefore, the mass universal aircraft F-35 is produced "off the assembly line", with the possibility of future upgrades, and not highly specialized aircraft produced in small series.
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 7 September 2020 10: 09 New
        -3
        True, they forgot about the creation of an aircraft to replace the F-15 and F / A-18E / F. If the F15EX is still normal and the Air Force is the F22, then the Super Hornet is clearly asking for a replacement.
        1. Jack O'Neill
          Jack O'Neill 7 September 2020 10: 43 New
          -5
          True, they forgot about the creation of an aircraft to replace the F-15 and F / A-18E / F. If the F15EX is still normal and the Air Force is the F22, then the Super Hornet is clearly asking for a replacement.

          What's wrong with 3rd Hornet Block?
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 7 September 2020 10: 57 New
            0
            Small combat radius, high visibility, weak computing power, low energy reserve (all relative to the 5th generation).
            The program to create a replacement in the United States was launched recently, it was delayed for a long time, in fact the Congress forced it, the Navy did not want to.
            And so the fighter for 4ki is gorgeous. So the whole line is great: F5, F / A-18, F / A-18 E / F. For over 50 years in the service.
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 7 September 2020 10: 24 New
        +9
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Therefore, the mass universal aircraft F-35 is produced "off the assembly line", with the possibility of future upgrades,

        And the pilots are also going to stamp on the conveyor?
        1. Temples
          Temples 7 September 2020 10: 45 New
          +3
          The planes will be unmanned. wink laughing

          Gamers will be sent a control program over the Internet. They will set the task and into battle! good laughing
          After all, there will be Internet during the war.
          It's not humane to break the connection !!!!!!!!!!

          And it is better for everyone to surrender and then there will be no wars on the planet. wassat
          1. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 8 September 2020 17: 00 New
            -4
            Quote: Temples
            The planes will be unmanned. wink laughing

            Gamers will be sent a control program over the Internet. They will set the task and into battle! good laughing
            After all, there will be Internet during the war.
            It's not humane to break the connection !!!!!!!!!!

            And it is better for everyone to surrender and then there will be no wars on the planet. wassat

            A cable at the bottom of the sea for a snack? So, not because of this, according to your opinion, Musk is implementing his starlink, there are 12 thousand satellites, how many of them are needed for work, and how many backup no one knows ... and each of them is a repeater
      3. Grits
        Grits 7 September 2020 15: 46 New
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Therefore, the mass universal aircraft F-35 is produced.

        This massive versatile aircraft will not save them. In the event of a global war, everyone in America will die. Perhaps someone will survive in Alaska. But, only until the first winter.
        1. Clear
          Clear 7 September 2020 20: 18 New
          +2
          Quote: Gritsa
          in Alaska, someone will survive. But, only until the first winter.

          Yes, Alexander, in Alaska we will be a little crowded with them winked
          1. Grits
            Grits 8 September 2020 04: 20 New
            +1
            Quote: Clear
            in Alaska, we will be a little crowded with them

            The Russians would have survived. Because they know how to stock up on firewood, warm skins and provisions, without waiting for "delivery from the mainland."
            And they can freely use the newspaper instead of ...
        2. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 8 September 2020 17: 04 New
          -4
          Quote: Gritsa
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Therefore, the mass universal aircraft F-35 is produced.

          This massive versatile aircraft will not save them. In the event of a global war, everyone in America will die. Perhaps someone will survive in Alaska. But, only until the first winter.

          Against NATO + the United States, without the use of nuclear weapons, we will lose if China is neutral or occupied by India, the forces are incommensurable. Are you sure that the Russian leadership will apply Yao? And if this leadership is at the level of Yanukovych? And if there is a leadership of the level of Yanukovych and, in addition, the war starts against the backdrop of speeches of the opposition camp, as in Ukraine in its time?
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 September 2020 09: 23 New
    +9
    Is he talking about the loss of aircraft in air operations? In general, it is difficult to imagine how this decline will be renewed? When the production cycle of modern aircraft is very long. This is not a WWII fighter. What about pilot training? So it's not worth thinking about the war with "conventional" weapons. IMHO.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 7 September 2020 09: 39 New
      +1
      In general, it is difficult to imagine how this decline will be renewed? When the production cycle of modern aircraft is very long. This is not a WWII fighter. What about pilot training?

      The F35 is being released at such a pace that others are really "envy". The loss will be replenished without any problems. But with the pilots, sadness. It will not be possible to produce one and a half hundred of them a year. A pilot is now a VERY expensive, one-piece, almost irreplaceable "product".
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 7 September 2020 09: 44 New
        +3
        Quote: Doccor18

        The F35 is being released at such a pace that others are really "envy". The loss will be replenished without any problems.

        The pace is not important, but the length of the cycle. The pace of release of peacetime will need to be accelerated several times, making up for the decline. They gave the command to increase the release. How long will it take for new fighters to come out?
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 7 September 2020 10: 26 New
          +5
          The rate of release of peacetime will need to be accelerated several times, making up for the decline ...

          I can't even imagine where the US Air Force could lose thousands of F35s ...? Is that ... in a mortal battle with the Russian Federation and China. But in this case, it will certainly not do without nuclear weapons. And for conflicts of a lower level, the declared number of 2500 cars, with an output of 120-200 per year, is quite enough.
          1. Clear
            Clear 7 September 2020 20: 22 New
            +2
            Quote: Doccor18
            But in this case, it will certainly not do without nuclear weapons.

            No, we will count the number of their sorties to us and the accuracy of the bombing. Right now!
      2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 7 September 2020 09: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: Doccor18
        The F35 is being released at such a pace that others are really "envy". The loss will be replenished without any problems. But with the pilots, sadness. It will not be possible to produce one and a half hundred of them a year. A pilot is now a VERY expensive, one-piece, almost irreplaceable "product".

        And the aircraft carriers? They, as I understand it, are primarily going to fight across the ocean.
        Therefore, aircraft carriers will become one of the priority targets. And the loss of even one means minus a hundred of almost a few planes, since there will be nothing where they need to be delivered.
        It is clear that the Americans will try to somehow accumulate aviation where it will not be necessary to fly far to the theater of operations, but nevertheless.
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 7 September 2020 11: 16 New
          +2
          ... going to fight across the ocean ...

          It will be hard to fight "across the ocean", even with a country like the DPRK. Before an operation, the Americans always accumulate their aviation at the airfields of their allies and their own overseas bases. Aircraft carriers, as a rule, do not play a leading role in such "squabbles".
      3. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 7 September 2020 10: 16 New
        -5
        "It won't be possible to produce one and a half hundred a year" ////
        ----
        This is partially compensated by a ground simulator. Which drastically reduces flight training hours in the air.
        And the fact that a wound autopilot is installed on new generations of aircraft (preparation for unmanned mode).
        Which, even during a turn, can free the pilot from control, making it possible to concentrate on shooting and communicating with other aircraft over the network.
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 7 September 2020 11: 48 New
          +6
          ..And the fact that a wound autopilot is installed on new aircraft generations (preparation for unmanned operation).
          Which, even during a turn, can free the pilot from control, making it possible to concentrate on shooting and communicating with other aircraft over the network.

          That's right, there are simulators, but this is enough to iron Yugoslavia or Libya with Afghanistan. Will this be enough for air battles with fighters from Iran, North Korea, China, Russia ..?
      4. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 7 September 2020 11: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: Doccor18
        released at such a rate that others are really "envy".


        How much a year is it real?
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 7 September 2020 11: 52 New
          +3
          120-140 - actually released, possibly up to 170-180 per year maximum.
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 7 September 2020 12: 38 New
            +4
            I was trying to figure out that we have 10 Su-34, 8 Su-30SM, 10 Su-35 coming out in the region. That gives in the region up to 30-35 aircraft per year. This is for our Air Force only. with import of up to 50-60 aircraft per year.
            Moreover, this is without the MiG. In my opinion, we have a big problem not in capacities, but in finances, because we spend money on various guanos such as Poseidon, the acquisition of the Zaslon radar for corvettes, an act meaningless and extremely expensive. 1 The screen will cost the treasury about the same as the Su-30SM.
            The second problem is the lack of flight personnel.
            The reasons are the deterioration of health and the level of education, this time, the second is the attempts of individual degenerates in uniform to strip off the caps for admission to the VVUZ.
            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 7 September 2020 13: 17 New
              +2
              .. in my opinion, the big problem is not in capacity - but in finances, because we spend money on different guano ...

              The second problem is the lack of flight personnel.
              The reasons are deterioration in health and educational level ...

              Absolutely. Nothing to add.
            2. tikhonov66
              tikhonov66 7 September 2020 14: 43 New
              +1
              "... we spend money on different guano like Poseidon ..."

              - ONE such "guano" causes damage to the territory of a potential enemy - MUCH BIGGER than all aviation taken together.
              - A tsunami with a height of about several kilometers simply WASHES away the coastal cities of a potential enemy.
              - And at the same time - there is NO protection from such a "guano" - NO-ANY-NO.
              From the word "completely."
            3. Alexey Sommer
              Alexey Sommer 7 September 2020 20: 39 New
              -5
              Quote: Cyril G ...
              we, in my opinion, the big problem is not in capacities - but in finances, because we spend money on different guano

              But we have the S400 and soon there will be S500, this is not counting the huge C300 fleet by any measure, which are constantly being modernized and integrated into a single air defense system. All of this equates our chances with NATO in an air war, despite their superiority in aircraft numbers.
              IMHO.
      5. Misha_an26
        Misha_an26 7 September 2020 11: 56 New
        0
        G ... o let them out to envy.
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 7 September 2020 12: 09 New
          +2
          G ... o let them out to envy.

          "Envy" - in terms of numbers.
          As for the quality, there were so many articles and opinions, from "lewdness" to "superiority" ... The truth, as always, is somewhere in between ..
      6. ugol2
        ugol2 7 September 2020 12: 05 New
        +7
        Quote: Doccor18
        A pilot is now a VERY expensive, one-piece, almost irreplaceable "commodity"

        I don't fully understand this moment.
        If earlier the crew of the liner consisted of three or four people, and it was really difficult to control the plane, to calculate everything, to know everything, now there are only two pilots in the cockpit and everything is done by a computer, an autopilot. There are many opinions that today's pilots are only able to drink coffee and press a button, although this has little effect on flight safety, computers are well aware of their business - planes fly and do not fall.
        In military aviation, isn't it? Is it not easier to manage the 5th generation than the second or the third?
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 7 September 2020 12: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: ugol2
          Is it not easier to manage the 5th generation than the second or the third?


          In my opinion, of course, the amateur has not become easier.
        2. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 7 September 2020 12: 53 New
          0
          Quote: ugol2
          now there are only two pilots in the cockpit and everything is done by a computer, an autopilot.

          In modern business jets, one pilot already remains. And in passenger aviation it is more of a safety issue. A safety net in case of pilot error or loss of control ability (loss of consciousness, acute illness, death).
          Quote: ugol2
          military aviation is not it? Is it not easier to manage the 5th generation than the second or the third?

          It is of course easier to control the plane, but control of the battle has become more difficult. The amount of information and tools has become many times greater.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 7 September 2020 15: 58 New
            +2
            "control of the battle has become more difficult. The amount of information and tools has become many times more" ///
            ---
            Much easier. No need to twist your head looking for enemy aircraft.
            Right in front of the pilot, opponents are displayed on a single screen - in red, our own - in green with the main parameters.
            360 degree panorama. And ground hazards, to boot. Any smart kid-gamer understands such a situation and has time to react. Therefore, the control of the F-35 is a joystick, not a steering wheel.
            1. Grazdanin
              Grazdanin 7 September 2020 16: 05 New
              +2
              I will paraphrase. The requirements for the pilot have changed. Previously, he was sharpened for a specific task of bombing, intercepting, patrolling, etc. Now he has become a generalist who must be able to do everything. Electronic assistants have simplified every task, but there are more tasks themselves. Accordingly, people need appropriate ones.
            2. Liam
              Liam 7 September 2020 16: 23 New
              -1
              sidesticks appeared in combat aircraft in the 70s along with fly-by-wire technology. The first of the military aircraft was the F-16. In the civilian, in the late 80s, the A-320
        3. Doccor18
          Doccor18 7 September 2020 13: 13 New
          +3
          Is it not easier to manage the 5th generation than the second or the third?

          It is easier to control, and it is very difficult to conduct aerial combat both before and now.
          With a flying time of 150-200 hours a year, we can talk about an experienced fighter pilot in 10 years.
      7. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 8 September 2020 17: 06 New
        -3
        Quote: Doccor18
        In general, it is difficult to imagine how this decline will be renewed? When the production cycle of modern aircraft is very long. This is not a WWII fighter. What about pilot training?

        The F35 is being released at such a pace that others are really "envy". The loss will be replenished without any problems. But with the pilots, sadness. It will not be possible to produce one and a half hundred of them a year. A pilot is now a VERY expensive, one-piece, almost irreplaceable "product".

        I read somewhere that they want to fasten the drone function to him. Well, it's not for nothing that drones are made for them, drones will be the first to die and risk
    2. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 7 September 2020 09: 53 New
      -5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      In general, it is difficult to imagine how this decline will be renewed? When the production cycle of modern aircraft is very long.

      Quite right. Therefore, the active phase of modern wars is very short. The one who seized air superiority won. It is impossible to replenish aviation and air defense consumption in an adequate time frame. Therefore, the United States has the largest and most modern Air Force in the world. Their planes will run out much later than ours or China's.
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      This is not a WWII fighter. What about pilot training?

      For this, UAVs are being developed. Now all of their projects have one thing in common, reduction in price and simplification. Super expensive and complex projects such as the X-47B are rejected. They are concentrating on mainstream UAVs. Otherwise, it is impossible to scale the air force. There is already a shortage of pilots for aircraft, they have become very complex and the training cycle for a fighter pilot has increased to 10 years.
      1. Grits
        Grits 7 September 2020 15: 54 New
        +2
        Quote: Grazdanin
        Their planes will run out much later than ours or China's.

        Have you tried to calculate the air defense capabilities of Russia and the United States? If we take them into account, the United States will run out of aircraft much faster.
  5. APASUS
    APASUS 7 September 2020 09: 29 New
    +6
    The echo of dominance in the economy, politics and now in the military sphere is coming to an end. Among the American military there are understanding people, but politicians in the United States have dropped the level
    1. _Ugene_
      _Ugene_ 7 September 2020 11: 30 New
      +3
      The echo of dominance in economics, politics and now in the military sphere is coming to an end.
      in my memory, it "comes to an end" for 20 years and how many more decades it will come to an end is unknown
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 7 September 2020 11: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: _Ugene_
        in my memory, it "comes to an end" for 20 years and how many more decades it will come to an end is unknown

        What proof do you need?

        It is not possible to imagine such a passage in Soviet times, I think it would have come to a real military clash, but now the Americans have swallowed or ............ can you imagine that Iran would bombard US bases with impunity?
        1. _Ugene_
          _Ugene_ 7 September 2020 11: 52 New
          +2
          It is not possible to imagine such a passage in Soviet times
          such passages during the Soviet era took place constantly and much more seriously, for example, at sea, and Iran fired on the US bases with impunity, so there was an agreement there, they warned in advance that none of the American military died. We exchanged our major general for several American hangars, a very profitable exchange. Yes, and the response did not come just because Trump positions himself exclusively as a peaceful president and does not want to start hostilities in principle
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 7 September 2020 12: 50 New
            +3
            Quote: _Ugene_
            and Iran fired on the US bases with impunity, so there was an agreement there, they warned in advance, none of the American military died.

            I don’t believe in the agreement, as well as in the absence of the killed and wounded. The USA knows how to hide them masterfully.
            They were caught more than once.
            The empire should not endure such passages without complaint. Her strength isn't just based on bayonets and finances.
      2. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 7 September 2020 12: 44 New
        +3
        See the history of Rome. The Roman state existed for 1000 years, and if you take Byzantium, then 2000 years. The US state is a little over 200 years old. The peak of US power is in the 50s-60s. And naturally, such structures will not disappear in a year. And hurray to patriot here is inappropriate. We must do our job ...
        1. _Ugene_
          _Ugene_ 7 September 2020 13: 03 New
          +2
          so I am about the same, they may be bent for another 50 years and it is not known what else will happen, so there is no need to hope for this
  6. fider
    fider 7 September 2020 09: 32 New
    +2
    It is necessary to resume the production of WWII aircraft if they want to fight without nuclear weapons. Then they can be riveted by hundreds of thousands, like cars.laughing tongue
  7. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 7 September 2020 09: 32 New
    +2
    Modern warfare will become a pretty penny, for all sides, and you cannot quickly recover losses in equipment ...
    1. Clear
      Clear 7 September 2020 20: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      Modern war will be a pretty penny, to all sides.

      And, this fact is one of the "engines" of the war.
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 7 September 2020 09: 34 New
    +3
    And sho, the general is not aware that, according to polls, their citizens are infected with the bacillus of pacifism-do not care?
    Although no, they are ready to bang anyone, as long as their "warriors of light" remain intact!?!?!?
    The paradox .. although no, cynicism of the highest standard! Don't give a damn about everyone, if only they were warm and satisfying!
  9. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 7 September 2020 09: 38 New
    0
    Charles Q. Brown Jr. says everything correctly.
    In an eight-page "Strategic Approach" memorandum to the forces, entitled "Accelerate Change or Lose," Brown sternly warns of the consequences of not taking threats.


    For those interested in the topic. The text is written well, without unnecessary quirks. Google gives a quite adequate translation.
    https://www.airforcemag.com/brown-air-force-must-speed-up-change-or-face-harsh-consequences/
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 7 September 2020 09: 59 New
      -5
      Thanks for the link. The original and the article on VO 2 are very different.
  10. askort154
    askort154 7 September 2020 09: 45 New
    +3
    "We are facing losses of the level of World War II": in the US Air Force on the risks of future wars

    Naive! The losses of the future war ("World War III") - there will be no one to calculate.
  11. Prisoner
    Prisoner 7 September 2020 09: 49 New
    +4
    "We will face losses of the level of the Second World War" (c). Until he is an optimist, this general. sad
  12. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 7 September 2020 09: 55 New
    +4
    The general thinks sensibly. Only in Hollywood, from the corn plant, the pilot sits down in F 16,18; 22; 35 and immediately flew to win. As a very honored pilot told me in the train compartment, it can take off, but knowledge is needed to sit down. drinks
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 7 September 2020 10: 03 New
      0
      The training of a full-fledged fighter pilot in the United States is estimated at 10 years.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 7 September 2020 10: 06 New
        +2
        Then let them not start or just give up! Hollywood will help them. hi
    2. Campanella
      Campanella 7 September 2020 10: 10 New
      +3
      Hollywood, if you believe him with the five brave, will trample the whole world.
      And in real life everything is more prosaic and banal and like everyone else.
  13. arhitroll
    arhitroll 7 September 2020 10: 01 New
    0
    Something began to prepare us for war. This is bad.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 7 September 2020 10: 18 New
      +3
      Excuse me, who in Russia began to prepare you for war or do you live in the country, where, according to the plan, should there be, if anything, a strait named after Stalin? hi
    2. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 8 September 2020 17: 12 New
      -4
      Quote: arhitroll
      Something began to prepare us for war. This is bad.

      Who has become? Could it be the case? Ahah, and what is the girth of the population in, zero point fucking tenths? : D
  14. Campanella
    Campanella 7 September 2020 10: 07 New
    +2
    The rate of combat exhaustion commensurate with the Second World War is a dream. They will be even higher.
    But the mobilization potential of the United States, it seems to me, is incomparably less than that period.
    So the US should talk more about peace than war.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 7 September 2020 10: 19 New
      -4
      Why? The US population is 330 million. You can recruit people.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 7 September 2020 10: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Why? The US population is 330 million. You can recruit people.

        You can dial, but why should they fight then?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 7 September 2020 10: 42 New
          -3
          For what? recourse For an idea, plus a salary:

          "The salary of Russian soldiers and contract sergeants in Syria is up to 200 thousand rubles a month," Argumenty i Fakty reported with reference to the Russian command in the region, answering a reader's question: "How much do the military in Syria receive?"

          Officers receive an average of 200 to 300 thousand rubles, the newspaper revealed. A pilot's salary depends on the number of flights, on average it is about 400 thousand rubles. "
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 7 September 2020 10: 45 New
            +4
            Quote: voyaka uh
            For an idea, plus a salary:

            In a global wage war, are you serious?
            And excuse me, what is their idea there? Cardboard democracy and the promotion of fascism around the world? Show you shots of German soldiers, from which all this nonsense about the Third Reich, world domination, etc., flew like dust when they fell into a meat grinder like Stalingrad?
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 7 September 2020 10: 54 New
              -3
              You got on your favorite skate: "denouncing the terrible Anglo-Saxons" laughing
              The flag is in your hands!
              Ignoring the salaries of Russian soldiers from Syria. Which, of course, are fighting for fair ideas, backed by 200-300 thousand rubles a month. smile
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 7 September 2020 10: 58 New
                +4
                Quote: voyaka uh
                You got on your favorite skate: "denouncing the terrible Anglo-Saxons"

                This is not my favorite horse. For ages I would not see these Bushes and Clintons in an embrace with Elizabeth.
                Quote: voyaka uh
                The flag is in your hands!

                And the transporter for you there too.
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Which, of course, are fighting for fair ideas, backed by 200-300 thousand rubles a month.

                Dear, what is the difference between LOCAL war and GLOBAL war, do not enlighten, no? I really want to understand you and forgive you. repeat
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 7 September 2020 11: 14 New
                  -2
                  1) A global war for Russia is only a nuclear war. Because the demography is bad, there are few young people, there is no one to fight.
                  There is little aviation, no fleet. Only tanks and artillery.
                  ----
                  2) Global war for America is a conventional war of a major
                  scale.
                  So they are going to fight China. We are not talking about a war with Russia (see point 1).
                  Such a war with China requires a lot of ships and aircraft. Losses are inevitable.
                  This is what the article is about.
                  ----
                  I hope I have answered your question in detail. hi
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 7 September 2020 11: 26 New
                    +4
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    A global war for Russia is only a nuclear war.

                    So what kind of salary are we talking about? Who will pay it, aliens?
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    young people are few, there is no one to fight.

                    Is there anyone directly? And Israel has someone to fight, I'm interested?
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    There is little aviation, no fleet. Only tanks and artillery.

                    As there at your airport in Haifa (in my opinion) it is written, do not think sho you are the smartest, here are all Jews.
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    Global war for America is a conventional war of a major
                    scale.

                    I can’t do it with you, dear. So it’s a nuclear exchange with the Russian Federation, but with China, so to measure the current with pussies ... Isn’t you funny yourself? Any military conflict on a global scale leads to an exchange of nuclear greetings. And you know this, but for some reason you decided that you are the smartest here.
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    So they are going to fight China.

                    Does China know about this?
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    Such a war with China requires a lot of ships and aircraft. Losses are inevitable.

                    Can you remind me how many countries participated in WWI and WWII? And then, from your "detailed" answers, the feeling is that China and the United States are not on Earth, but on Mars.
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    I hope I have answered your question in detail.

                    So who will pay cash in a global war, and then add a pension? fellow You never answered me.
                    And about the idea for the gallant American commandos, it was so dull. So what is the idea for which these Rambs will lay down their heads?
                  2. ivanec
                    ivanec 8 September 2020 08: 31 New
                    0
                    They did not take into account one thing, but one of the parties will be forced to use nuclear weapons when it is broken as a result of a conventional war, and there Russia will inevitably have to get involved for well-known reasons.
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 7 September 2020 10: 35 New
        +3
        We're talking about pilots. If you are in Israel, if anything, tomorrow get off your battle couch, sit in the F 35 seat and take off right away? So I, too, will easily sit in any seat of any plane. Only my first words when looking at the dashboard will be: Wow How many clocks and all the different times show, until the end of your life you will not figure out which clock to take off. And as far as I know the pilot after the vacation, they are not allowed to fly on their own. The words of the character of Armor: If a woman is given 300 men, she still will not give birth in a month. hi
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 7 September 2020 10: 59 New
          -3
          F-35 pilots are recruited to young people, of whom there are a lot in Israel - a third of the population. And those who are familiar with a computer, virtual reality, know the joystick - get an advantage. You need to have a high IQ, good normal health, and be calm. Two or three equal pilots are trained for one plane.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 7 September 2020 11: 09 New
            +2
            How long does it take to train a pilot from scratch? The question of replenishing combat losses. During the Second World War, with losses of more than 10% of aircraft in the US aircrew, cases of sabotage were noted. Hollywood is not an example. The Americans held staff games during the first raid on Russia Air Force losses may be 60%, ours answered, well, maybe 30%, do not overestimate our abilities. We also recruit not disabled people to flight schools.
          2. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 7 September 2020 13: 04 New
            +3
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Two or three equal pilots are trained for one plane.


            I guess you're lying again ..
            And Granovsky writes otherwise - https://oleggranovsky.livejournal.com/99912.html
            Speech about three pilots, I guess, never went. In the best case, with reservists (and the situation with the reserve in Israel is well organized) the ratio will reach 1.5 crew per aircraft
          3. zwlad
            zwlad 7 September 2020 17: 03 New
            0
            What will these two or three fly when the first one does not return?
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 7 September 2020 17: 30 New
              +1
              The problem is usually the opposite: there is something to fly, but no one. Replacement pilots are needed to support a large number of sorties per day during intense hostilities.
      3. Campanella
        Campanella 7 September 2020 10: 47 New
        +1
        The quality of the people is not right. You can dial it, but how will they fight?
        A lot of meat is a fact!)))
      4. Prisoner
        Prisoner 7 September 2020 19: 23 New
        0
        You can TRY to dial. hi
  15. unhappy
    unhappy 7 September 2020 10: 08 New
    +1
    Sorry to distract from abstract reasoning repeat
    We must remind the general that America has problems. Perhaps there will be no disintegration and civil war, but to one degree or another the economy and budget will change for the worse. And the generals' plans must be built taking into account these consequences. repeat
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 7 September 2020 13: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: unhappy
      General that America has problems.


      And he does not know that the reality is different.
  16. zwlad
    zwlad 7 September 2020 17: 01 New
    +1
    Not gentlemen optimists. If anything, you will face losses that are not comparable to the losses that you suffered in WWII. Be under no illusion.
  17. prior
    prior 7 September 2020 17: 27 New
    +1
    Take your time, general, America has not yet summed up the results of the "Black Lives Matter" campaign.
    And also the presidential elections ...
    Before the World War, will you be later ?!
  18. NF68
    NF68 8 September 2020 16: 34 New
    0
    Losses in people at the level of WWII losses and even more in the event of the outbreak of World War III are quite possible. But as for the sophisticated technology, you will not lose so much of it, since because of the too high price, so many tanks, aircraft and other things, even the United States cannot afford to buy.