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The authoritative scientific journal Lancet is confident in the vaccine against COVID-19 from Russia

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The fact that the well-known British journal The Lancet, respected in the world scientific community, has published a publication about the Russian vaccine against coronavirus is evidence of the high quality of this new drug. After all, each article, before appearing on the pages of the publication, is tested by serious experts, whose opinion is not questioned among specialists in a particular field of knowledge.


This was told by the head of the Russian Ministry of Health Mikhail Murashko in an interview he gave to Naila Asker-zade for a television channel Russia-1.

The minister explained that such a publication is considered among specialists a sign of high confidence in the drug.

At the same time, Mikhail Murashko stressed that foreign scientists who will use the data published in the journal in their work should take into account the fact that Russia has a patent for a new drug from COVID-19.

An article appeared in the British scientific journal Lancet yesterday, which described two stages of clinical trials of the Russian-made Sputnik V vaccine. The authors of the publication came to the conclusion that the drug created in Russia induces an antibody response and has no serious side effects.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 5 September 2020 10: 41 New
    -1
    Ours won? (Or theirs)
    A group of Russian scientists: Royak, Rodendorf, Rappoport and Zuckerman, under the leadership of Academician of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences Gintsburg, created a vaccine against coronavirus.
    Israel has declared that they have not the slightest reason not to trust these Russians. They are confident that the vaccine will be effective and safe and are ready to purchase it.
    1. FenH
      FenH 5 September 2020 10: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: Victor_B
      Ours won? (Or theirs)
      A group of Russian scientists: Royak, Rodendorf, Rappoport and Zuckerman, under the leadership of Academician of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences Gintsburg, created a vaccine against coronavirus.
      Israel has declared that they have not the slightest reason not to trust these Russians. They are confident that the vaccine will be effective and safe and are ready to purchase it.

      Are you a chauvinist, and is it ours or theirs, based on your strange logic?
      1. genisis
        genisis 5 September 2020 12: 08 New
        +6
        Here is a link to the article
        https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31867-5/fulltext
        This event is long-awaited for the Russian scientific community. It is very good that it finally took place. It should be noted that the article was published in one of the most authoritative medical scientific journals (based on the impact factor value for 2020, Lancet ranks second in its category). It is very difficult for scientific research to get to the pages of this journal.
        The authors can and should be congratulated on the successful completion of Phase 1-2 of the clinical trials of their vaccine. An article in the Lancet, in the eyes of the scientific community, completes these phases of clinical trials. Further, the GamKovidVak team of authors has a lot of work to do - to establish whether their vaccine is capable of protecting against COVID / SARS-CoV-2 in real conditions. This is expected to be done in a Phase 3 clinical trial. It remains to wish you success!
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 5 September 2020 14: 01 New
          -4
          Quote: genisis
          This is a long-awaited event for the Russian scientific community.
          It remains to wish you success!

          Regarding "wish success" and "long-awaited event": it is difficult to disagree, but excuse the minister's optimism I do not share. The article says that the Russian Federation is free to register a vaccine in accordance with its legislation, about the desire of many to purchase, but it also says that the third stage of testing has not been completed, although nothing bad is expected from it. The meaning is still the same - the creation goes against the requirements of the WHO and the work is endless: both scientific and administrative, and there is also a commercial component.
          Anyway: the creators of patience and luck, even they will have to cut themselves to prove their case
          1. military_cat
            military_cat 5 September 2020 18: 53 New
            +1
            Are you aware that the vaccine creators wrote the article in the Lancet? And about the 3rd stage of testing - are these their statements?

            Вот статья, список авторов в начале, про этапы всё прямым текстом ("phase 3"): https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2820%2931866-3

            And this is what they write: "Further investigation is needed of the effectiveness of this vaccine for prevention of COVID-19."

            Scientists have no rubilov among themselves, other people invent it.
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 5 September 2020 20: 51 New
              +1
              Quote: military_cat
              Scientists have no rubilov among themselves, other people invent it.

              Your words, yes to God in the ears. I understand that scientists are working for a great and brighter future, but other peoplewho often make decisions have their own vision of the world
        2. eklmn
          eklmn 6 September 2020 17: 23 New
          0
          “... the well-known British magazine The Lancet, respected in the world scientific community, has published a publication on the Russian vaccine against coronavirus, which is evidence of the high quality of this new drug.”
          Lies and lies drives ...
          Yes, The Lancet published an article because Russia has finally provided the Phase 1 test result.
          Orig. article here (eng):
          https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30402-1/fulltext
          From the article:
          “... the phase 1/2 results were published in The Lancet. The vaccine elicited a strong immune response in all 76 participants. Presumably, these results were available at the Russian Ministry of Health. However, for regulatory bodies such as the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the European Medicines Agency, data on the immune response alone is usually not sufficient to warrant a vaccine. "The immune response cannot be directly proportional to the degree of protection - you can only find out in large-scale trials, ”explains Peter Openshaw, professor of experimental medicine at Imperial College London (London, UK).”
          “Dmitriev confirmed that Russia has received international requests for 1 billion doses of vaccine. On August 26, 2020, the Russian news agency TASS reported that the country would supply over 2 million doses of Sputnik V to Kazakhstan. Openshaw points out that places that have expressed interest in the vaccine are unlikely to begin mass introduction until they are confident that it is safe and effective. “There is a huge difference between the registration of a vaccine in Russia, which it is entitled to, and international approval or WHO prequalification,” he said.
          “Given the speed with which candidates go through development stages, Jha wonders why Russia found it necessary to jump straight to approval. “I don't think it makes sense; the difference between right and wrong is a matter of months, ”he said. "It looks like a very small gain, and in the midst of a pandemic, this is not the time to cut corners." It has been speculated that the approval was motivated by nationalism... Most countries would welcome the positive publicity from being the first to market the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine. The US has also used the space age to combat COVID-19; He called his ambition to provide 300 million doses of vaccine by January 2021 Operation Warp Speed.
          If Sputnik V does not work or causes some unexpected side effects in a Phase 3 trial, it could impact public perception of the vaccination process. What's more, an ineffective product could actually worsen a pandemic - those who have received the vaccine may stop taking precautions against SARS-CoV-2 infection. “There is a huge risk that vaccine credibility will be undermined by a vaccine that was approved and then shown to be harmful,” said Openshaw. A significant group of vaccine hesitant people are already laying the foundation on social media to discredit any potential COVID-19 vaccine. “We really don't want to make life easier for those who are trying to undermine science,” Jha said.
    2. Ragnar Lodbrok
      Ragnar Lodbrok 5 September 2020 10: 48 New
      -3
      Quote: Victor_B
      Royak, Rodendorf, Rappoport and Zuckerman, under the guidance of Academician of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences Gunzburg

      Israel said that they have no reason not to trust these Russians
      Homeric laughter. Curtain.
      Ilya Yasny, head of the scientific expertise of Inbio Ventures, refers to the registration of the vaccine, not passed all stages of verification, sharply negative. “This is contrary to all norms of vaccine and drug development, and scientific and ethical, and whatever. Because this type of vaccine has not yet been registered in highly regulated areas. It is very alarming that the vaccine was registered after a study on several dozen people, which, apparently, was not comparative, and there are no results from this study. Meanwhile, all the leading vaccine developers in the West, based on the results of the first phase of the study, published at least press releases, many have already published articles where there is a similar analysis of what happened, and now they are starting studies of the third phase, each of them - on 30 thousand person. This cannot be compared with what has been done at the Gamaleya Institute ”.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 5 September 2020 11: 03 New
        +4
        Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
        Meanwhile, all the leading vaccine developers in the West, based on the results of the first phase of the study, published at least press releases, and many have already published articles containing a similar analysis of what happened.

        Пока ваши "ведущие разработчики" вакцины публикуют статьи и разборы, наши скромные учёные свою вакцину уже запатентовали и кое-кому её уже вводят. Спросите у Жириновского! yes
        1. taiga2018
          taiga2018 5 September 2020 11: 20 New
          +7
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Пока ваши "ведущие разработчики" вакцины публикуют статьи и разборы,

          It's like in the case with Italy, while in Brussels they were thinking about what to do and what to do, the Italians almost bent over from the coronavirus, okay, Russia arrived in time, and only then the European officials woke up and began to apologize ...
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 5 September 2020 11: 25 New
            +7
            Quote: taiga2018
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Пока ваши "ведущие разработчики" вакцины публикуют статьи и разборы,

            It's like in the case with Italy, while in Brussels they were thinking about what to do and what to do, the Italians almost bent over from the coronavirus, okay, Russia arrived in time, and only then the European officials woke up and began to apologize ...

            Now, in all publications and from all irons, streams of dirt will pour on our vaccine - this is clearly happening here on the site. The West is late with the vaccine - and this is a huge amount of money flowing past their pocket! The fight will go on all fronts, up to the sanctions on those who will buy and produce this vaccine! I give a tooth! yes
            1. taiga2018
              taiga2018 5 September 2020 11: 30 New
              +6
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Now in all publications and from all irons, dirt will pour on our vaccine

              It is already pouring, at least even take some comments on VO under this news ...
            2. Simargl
              Simargl 5 September 2020 19: 19 New
              0
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Now in all publications and from all irons, dirt will pour on our vaccine
              How not to pour it? Trump wanted to sell the vaccine for tons of gold and voiced this (the others also hoped, the pharmacists rubbed their hands), but ours ruined everything and will give it almost for free!
        2. Mimoprohodil
          Mimoprohodil 5 September 2020 16: 12 New
          +2
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Ask Zhirinovsky!
          How does he get a vaccine for age only 18-60 years injected?
      2. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 5 September 2020 11: 09 New
        +6
        Ragnar
        “We did not start from scratch, as I have said many times, for at least 20 years, but rather 25 years, we created technologies here at the institute. We created a technological platform that formed the basis for the creation of not only this vaccine against COVID-19, but many other drugs, ”the academician said.
        The words of Alexander Gintsburg were confirmed by Academician of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, Doctor of Medical Sciences, Professor of the N.N. Gamalei Anatoly Altshtein. He also expressed his admiration for the professionalism of the scientists.

        “Literally in 2-3 weeks, they made the basis of the adenovirus, where the coronavirus gene was inserted. They had everything for this, so in such a period only masters could do it and they showed their excellent skill in this. Others would have been busy with it for months, perhaps, ”the scientist said.
        But the site's specialists know how to do it and what they do right in the west, but we don't
      3. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 5 September 2020 11: 21 New
        +3
        Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
        Ilya Yasny, head of the scientific expertise of Inbio Ventures, has a strong negative attitude to the registration of a vaccine that has not passed all stages of verification

        Vaccination is voluntary. Do not enter yourself. Show solidarity with leading medical opinion. In the United States, almost 200 have already died. How many more will die in the name of advanced American medicine? Or are there other values? Loot, not life is more important? And if few die, the people will not be scared as they should, and the price for the vaccine will not be raised?
        1. VO3A
          VO3A 5 September 2020 11: 42 New
          -3
          In the United States, almost 200 have already died.

          80% of deaths were recorded in people over 65 years old. Of these 80%, only 7% died from COVID-19, the death of the rest was associated with chronic diseases and simultaneous illness along with COVID-19 ... This pandemic is more like a money scam organized by pharmaceutical companies and paid by them functionaries from medicine. ...
          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 5 September 2020 11: 51 New
            0
            Quote: VO3A
            80% of deaths were recorded in people over 65 years old. Of these 80%, only 7% died from COVID-19, the death of the rest was associated with chronic diseases and simultaneous illness along with COVID-19 ... This

            Так и у нас тоже смертность в основном в возрасте "за 60"... Но это не успокаивает как то. И тоже соотношение умерших "от" и "на фоне" не сильно отличается. Вы хотите сказать, что в США с ковидом все хорошо? А такая смертность - это всего лишь гримасы статистики?
        2. Ragnar Lodbrok
          Ragnar Lodbrok 5 September 2020 11: 51 New
          -1
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          How many more will die

          Zhen, that is, you propose to inject people with everything, maybe it will help that people are dying? I want to convey one thing, just think about these words, please.the vaccine has not passed all stages of the prescribed tests!I am not against the primacy of our country in this regard, here again some of the agents of the State Department wrote me down because of my great intelligence and lack of arguments, I am against the Middle Ages in the 21st century!
          The vaccine safety assessment system includes 5 levels of control: испытания новых вакцин разработчиком и национальным органом контроля, контроль вакцин на производстве, сертификация серий вакцин ФГБУ "Научный центр экспертизы средств медицинского применения" Минздрава России, инспектирование предприятий и госконтроль соответствия качества вакцин на местах их применения.
          Source: https://yaprivit.ru/o-vaccinah/control-nad-proizvodstvom-vaccin/ |
          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 5 September 2020 12: 47 New
            +4
            Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
            I am not against the primacy of our country in this regard, here again some of the agents of the State Department wrote me down because of my great intelligence and lack of arguments, I am against the Middle Ages in the 21st century

            Все правильно вы пишите. Только обстоятельства ИСКЛЮЧИТЕЛЬНЫЕ. Возможен коллапс экономики, из-за карантинных мероприятий. Риски, возможно, есть. Но они умеренные. Учёные ( наши) считают, что риск оправдан. Вреда не нанесут. Эту схему с аденовирусом уже проверили. На Эболе и MERS. А такой пример ( мысленный эксперимент) : есть лёгочная чума. Летальность 80%. Сделали вакцину. Шанс получить иммунитет 99% вероятность побочных эффектов 0.1%. чтобы "побочки было 0%", надо ещё пару лет испытаний. Колоть? А если летальность 3%, только побочные эффекты от болезни могут оказаться пожизненными и весьма снизят качество жизни - колоть? Вся группа исследователей вколола себе, без тени сомнений. Они самоубийцы, что ли?
          2. Olgovich
            Olgovich 5 September 2020 15: 39 New
            +1
            Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
            just think, please, in these words, the vaccine has not passed all the stages of the prescribed tests!

            Think for yourself: as you know, the vaccine was created on a long-FAMOUS and TESTED technological platform, which formed the basis for creating not only this vaccine against COVID-19, but many other similar drugs».

            Those. the vaccine is one of a number of LIKE and long-proven
        3. snake
          snake 5 September 2020 12: 06 New
          0
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Vaccination is voluntary. Do not enter yourself. Show solidarity with leading medical opinion.

          All the same, not a damn thing is clear with this covid. Today in Russia there are more than 5 thousand cases. When there were 10 thousand - there was self-isolation. Now you can go for a walk almost wherever you want, and you are almost never asked to wear a mask anywhere. A huge pile of conflicting information. No wonder the vaccine is viewed askance.
    3. Husit
      Husit 5 September 2020 10: 49 New
      0
      Quote: Victor_B
      Ours won? (Or theirs)
      A group of Russian scientists: Royak, Rodendorf, Rappoport and Zuckerman, under the leadership of Academician of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences Gintsburg, created a vaccine against coronavirus.
      Israel has declared that they have not the slightest reason not to trust these Russians. They are confident that the vaccine will be effective and safe and are ready to purchase it.

      Again you advertise Israel, I remember you wrote Russia with a small letter here .. Again started to shit? Hiding behind an avatar of the USSR?
      Be careful, men with him, he is still a provocateur ..
      In general, we wiped our nose with the vaccine to the West .. Orders come from all over the world !!!!!
      PS Here is a gas station for you, bast shoes Russia .. We have a huge potential!
      1. Ragnar Lodbrok
        Ragnar Lodbrok 5 September 2020 10: 53 New
        -7
        Orders from whom? You will introduce an incomprehensible liquid of a cloudy color to your child, based on the words of the leader about its safety and benefits, because according to information unverified by the way, his daughter was pricked, you see. I will not risk my children like that.
        1. Operator
          Operator 5 September 2020 11: 02 New
          +4
          We warmly welcome your refusal to vaccinate - we need to improve the level of our gene pool.
        2. mark1
          mark1 5 September 2020 11: 04 New
          +7
          No problem - delete it ...
        3. Husit
          Husit 5 September 2020 11: 18 New
          0
          Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
          Orders from whom? You will introduce an incomprehensible liquid of a cloudy color to your child, based on the words of the leader about its safety and benefits, because according to information unverified by the way, his daughter was pricked, you see. I will not risk my children like that.

          I knew it would be like this .. The West and its sycophants are angry, what did they not create?
        4. Pashhenko Nikolay
          Pashhenko Nikolay 5 September 2020 11: 20 New
          -4
          Well, you just like that. A British magazine with British experts, they are apparently British scientists, gave a grudge that everything is okay, but you don't want a shot of happiness)).
        5. sedoj
          sedoj 5 September 2020 11: 45 New
          +3
          Well, yes, in the West everything is only the best and passed all the tests. The example of Germany is in your hands. In the early sixties of the last century, there were such pills for sedation, called Contergan. Pregnant women began to take them. As a result, a large number of children with physical defects were born.
        6. vitvit123
          vitvit123 5 September 2020 16: 32 New
          +2
          Children, it seems, do not plan and did not plan to vaccinate ... only the adult population. So that ..
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 5 September 2020 11: 03 New
        +7
        Quote: Husit
        In general, we wiped our nose with the vaccine to the West .. Orders come from all over the world !!!!

        Have you wiped your nose to the west? How can you treat the registration of a vaccine that has not passed all stages of verification? Only sharply negative.
        Quote: Husit
        So much for a gas station, bast shoes Russia ..

        От того, что некоторые называют Россию "энергетической сверхдержавой" структура ее экспорта и зависимость от цен на сырье не меняется.
        Quote: Husit
        We have a huge potential!

        It is impossible to argue with this, but as long as this potential is not controlled by the people, but by a pitiful handful of oligarchs, there will be no sense in it. In general, I got tired of this endless grunt about and without.
      3. Victor_B
        Victor_B 5 September 2020 11: 06 New
        -5
        Quote: Husit
        Again you advertise Israel

        (Not) respected (with a small letter) leavened patriot.
        This anecdote caught my eye a week ago, but today I saw that
        under the leadership of Academician of the RAMS Gintsburg
        .
        Those. Gunzburg is a real surname.
        Maybe the rest are real, and not sucked out of the finger?
        Jews are also Israeli. Condo! Never used ours.
        1. Husit
          Husit 5 September 2020 11: 42 New
          0
          How did you get bruised .. And the minuses fell, well, it happens))))
    4. _Ugene_
      _Ugene_ 5 September 2020 12: 17 New
      0
      Ours won?
      This will be visible in a year or two after the mass vaccination.
    5. Shahno
      Shahno 5 September 2020 22: 55 New
      -2
      A group of scientists who have Russian citizenship.
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 5 September 2020 10: 44 New
    +6
    At the same time, Mikhail Murashko emphasized that foreign scientists who will use the data published in the journal in their work should take into account that Russia has a patent for a new drug for COVID-19.

    That is, it is almost certain that this vaccine will be banned in the United States, England and possibly the European Union, and not because it is bad, but because we will have to unfasten it for copyright.
    1. FenH
      FenH 5 September 2020 10: 49 New
      0
      Quote: NEXUS
      At the same time, Mikhail Murashko emphasized that foreign scientists who will use the data published in the journal in their work should take into account that Russia has a patent for a new drug for COVID-19.

      That is, it is almost certain that this vaccine will be banned in the United States, England and possibly the European Union, and not because it is bad, but because we will have to unfasten it for copyright.

      Yes, and a bolt on them, then a note slipped through that three new vaccine production sites are being built, because so far there is not enough capacity for our own needs hi
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 5 September 2020 10: 50 New
      -3
      Quote: NEXUS
      That is, it is almost certain that this vaccine will be banned in the United States, England and possibly the European Union, and not because it is bad, but because we will have to unfasten it for copyright.

      90 percent agree. There was already a call. Sami obukakalsya now all will choke
    3. Husit
      Husit 5 September 2020 10: 53 New
      -1
      Quote: NEXUS
      it is almost certain that this vaccine will be banned in the United States, England and possibly the European Union, and not because it is bad, but because we will have to unfasten it for copyright.

      They will shout in the media, foo, like, and they will buy on the sly and resell at an exorbitant price.
    4. Russ
      Russ 5 September 2020 11: 12 New
      +3
      And not because it is bad, but because it will be necessary to unfasten us for copyright.

      They want to live, unfastened ... they hate that the vaccine is Russian ...
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 5 September 2020 11: 21 New
        +4
        Quote: Russia
        They want to live, unfastened ...

        Who wants to live? The Western elite? Yes, they do not care. The Western world will not purchase our vaccine.
        Quote: Simon Schempp
        Журнал Lancet не высказывал "уверенности" в российской вакцине.

        Even if he didn’t say, if our vaccine passes all tests with a positive result, Western companies will not buy it, because firstly, they are developing several of their vaccines (it doesn’t matter good or not) and secondly, would you like to remind the story of Arbidol? It is banned in the EU and the USA, by the way, and precisely because the patent is ours.
        1. Russ
          Russ 5 September 2020 11: 39 New
          +3
          So this is their problem ...
          They are from one word - Russian into a coma ... wassat
          1. Russ
            Russ 5 September 2020 13: 02 New
            +4
            I look ... from the word-Russian, not only the states have allergies ... laughing
            Corrupts and crushes ... wink
        2. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 5 September 2020 12: 01 New
          -4
          Quote: NEXUS
          remind you of the history of Arbidol? It is banned in the EU and the USA, by the way, and precisely because the patent is ours.


          This fuflomycin also doesn't work.
        3. vitvit123
          vitvit123 5 September 2020 16: 34 New
          +2
          Without the EU and amers, many can come running. Take some Indians ...
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard 5 September 2020 13: 56 New
        -2
        Quote: Russia
        They want to live, unfastened ... they hate that the vaccine is Russian ..

        Everything is right here:
    5. Shahno
      Shahno 5 September 2020 23: 03 New
      -2
      Will be prohibited. We've got enough counterfeit drugs here.
      Ps. If you want to work in the international market, please follow the rules.
  3. Simon schempp
    Simon schempp 5 September 2020 10: 49 New
    -5
    Excerpt from the same article.

    The researchers note that - despite encouraging results - their study has a number of limitations: no control vaccine or placebo, a short follow-up period, a relatively small sample of volunteers, and their young age. Military personnel, who made up a significant proportion of all volunteers, are on average younger and healthier than people at risk: for the latter, vaccination may not be as effective or more painful, but so far researchers have not tested this.


    And the news headline is not true. Lancet Magazine did not express "уверенности" в российской вакцине.
    1. Rebe haim
      Rebe haim 5 September 2020 11: 31 New
      -6
      И заголовок новости не соответствует действительности. Журнал Lancet не высказывал "уверенности" в российской вакцине.

      Вы это бросьте, ссылаться на объективные/фактические обстоятельства, не "патриотично" это. am
  4. Operator
    Operator 5 September 2020 10: 54 New
    -1
    The Russian vaccine is made on the basis of human biomaterial, foreign ones - on the basis of chimpanzee biomaterial.

    Therefore, you should not advertise our vaccine so much, let foreigners (primarily Simon Schempp) be vaccinated against chimpanzees - the tail, abundant hairiness and arms like legs will be provided for them bully
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 5 September 2020 11: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Operator
      Therefore, you should not advertise our vaccine so much, let foreigners be vaccinated against chimpanzees - the tail and arms will be provided for them like legs.

      У шимпанзе нет хвоста. И там не биоматериал, а вирусы. Однако, так в человеческую популяцию попал ВИЧ. От обезьян. Наглосаксы имеют возможность запустить какой нибудь "Спид-2" ...
      1. Operator
        Operator 5 September 2020 11: 17 New
        -1
        The Russian vaccine is made on the basis of a human adenovirus by including a fragment from the RNA of a coronavirus into its RNA chain. Foreign vaccines are made on the basis of the chimpanzee adenovirus.

        The tail is not a tail, but monkey diseases to foreigners and local d ... m will be provided.
        1. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 5 September 2020 12: 07 New
          -5
          Quote: Operator
          monkey diseases for foreigners and local d ... m will be provided.


          And hands are like legs, don't forget.
          1. Engineer
            Engineer 5 September 2020 12: 25 New
            -5
            And hands are like legs, don't forget.

            And bituha and something else
  5. Doccor18
    Doccor18 5 September 2020 10: 57 New
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    released a publication about the Russian coronavirus vaccine, is evidence of the high quality ...

    This was stated by the head of the Russian Ministry of Health Mikhail Murashko in an interview he gave ...

    I don't even know whether to be happy or not. The Minister is pleased with the article in a British private journal.
    Have the British epidemiologists, microbiologists and biochemists provided all the data on the vaccine?
    Or who is the author of this article?
    ... and has no serious side effects ...

    Instant, yes. And the deferred ones? No one knows. Because there were no long-term clinical studies. And it is not clear how the immunity of the vaccinated will react to the virus in the next epidemic season.
    There are more questions than answers.
    But the vaccine was made in the shortest possible time, it is ready and soon everyone will be vaccinated. And these are facts.
  6. ender
    ender 5 September 2020 11: 30 New
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    The words of Alexander Gintsburg were confirmed by Academician of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, Doctor of Medical Sciences, Professor of the N.N. Gamalei Anatoly Altshtein. He also expressed his admiration for the professionalism of the scientists.


    if the vaccine is successful, it will be an achievement of Russian scientists. and if not, it turns out that again (the Jews) staged a russocide. (as a joke)
  7. ender
    ender 5 September 2020 11: 41 New
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    The funny thing is that none of the experts (including the author) read the article itself. because there, in black and white it is written: -
    But until the phase 3 trial is completed and the results are made available, it will not be possible to make any judgment.
  8. Engineer
    Engineer 5 September 2020 11: 53 New
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    The fact that the well-known British journal The Lancet, respected in the world scientific community, has published a publication on the Russian vaccine against coronavirus is evidence of the high quality of this new drug.

    Original article
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31867-5/fulltext
    There is NO quality assessment of the vaccine.
    The article tells about the work of Logunov and his colleagues from the Gamaleya Institute
    The article notes the reasonableness of the approach of Russian scientists
    The two studies by Logunov and colleagues have several strengths.

    Nevertheless, the conclusion of the article is in the spirit of wait and see
    Ultimately, all vaccine candidates will need to show safety and prove durable clinical efficacy (including in groups at greater risk) in large randomized trials before they can be put into widespread use. Equitable access will require multiple vaccine producers and providers in a range of settings. Each of their successes will together lead us towards our collective, longed for, new day.

    Thus, the general message of the article is that the effectiveness of the vaccine as a whole has not yet been proven, although undoubtedly every step in this direction is very important.
    1. Liam
      Liam 5 September 2020 11: 58 New
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      Naturally, the effectiveness is proved by the 3rd phase, which has not been carried out yet.
      1. Engineer
        Engineer 5 September 2020 12: 03 New
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        It's just that Mr. Murashko does not want to think and understand that by his demagoguery he undermines the credibility of the drug in advance, which may well be effective
        1. Liam
          Liam 5 September 2020 12: 20 New
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          No medication will be approved for use in any country until all the required phases of testing have passed and the results are published. In this regard, the laws of the countries do not differ. So you can announce anything at any time. So that premature PR is not good for anything good. leads - just look at the sad fate of the Russian vaccine against Ebola, which has not yet passed phase 3 and exists only as a PR project.
          PySy. Little is said about this, but it is not a laboratory vaccine (even one that has successfully passed all phases) that receives admission for sale, but the final industrial product released at factories. And this is not such a banal moment. There are many developments that have remained laboratory due to the impossibility of their industrial production. That is, a certain number of experimental doses in the laboratory are produced and mass-produced, no. For various reasons
          1. Engineer
            Engineer 5 September 2020 12: 23 New
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            Just with the release, most likely there will be no problems. The producers have ALREADY been appointed. Someone is impatient
            Kagocel and I had a scandal that, they say, did not pass all the stages of testing and allegedly even caused complications. This did not prevent him from entering the list of mandatory drugs for availability in every pharmacy.
            1. Liam
              Liam 5 September 2020 12: 30 New
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              This is not a matter of desire. There are many technical issues, but simplified, not everything that is produced in laboratory conditions can be repeated on an industrial scale. The factory product will be different from the laboratory one.
              1. Engineer
                Engineer 5 September 2020 12: 38 New
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                This is all clear.
                It's just that in this particular case I'm sure that the actual production will be more or less.
                I still have all doubts about the quality of the vaccine and the initial one and when it is put on stream. but the original is still more.
                1. Liam
                  Liam 5 September 2020 12: 47 New
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                  There are no big real export prospects for this vaccine anyway. There are no miracles in such matters. Western and Chinese pharmaceutical giants are seriously overtaking both in the speed of development and testing and, naturally, in the industrial possibilities of mass production. So there is actually a struggle for the Russian market between this vaccine and the vaccine Vector. The Vector beat them and hit the jackpot on covid tests, they want to win back on the vaccine. Hence all the kipesh and PR
    2. Ragnar Lodbrok
      Ragnar Lodbrok 5 September 2020 12: 00 New
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      Quote: Engineer
      Thus, the general message of the article is that the effectiveness of the vaccine in general has not yet been proven.

      As if this information in the objects they eat, and not think to put local putriets to put, here is the question of questions. Let them inject what they want, they want to inject this unverified and uncertified liquid in innocent people, that's what scares.
      1. Engineer
        Engineer 5 September 2020 12: 10 New
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        Нам всем надо успокоиться и подождать. Может получим действительно "аналогов нет" , а не "аналоговнет"

        ЗЫ "Искусство заголовка" в статье на ВО достигло особенных высот.
        Murashko's demagogic message is even more strengthened and already presented as a fact.
        1. ender
          ender 5 September 2020 12: 43 New
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          ЗЫ "Искусство заголовка" в статье на ВО достигло особенных высот.


          это ещё не предел. "лента" пока круче ))

          Su-57 will withstand a nuclear explosion
          https://lenta.ru/news/2020/08/06/su57/
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 5 September 2020 11: 57 New
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    It's just that it's time to DECIDE, we believe our scientists, doctors ... the authorities here only stand on the side.
    WE BELIEVE, we will be vaccinated .... DO NOT BELIEVE, everyone has the right to decide for himself, but then let him not pee when the mistrustful will be removed from work where the degree of risk of getting infected and infecting someone else is high!
  10. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 5 September 2020 12: 13 New
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    I'm not an expert in vaccines.
    My post exclusively about this publication, regardless of the quality, and if not the quality of the vaccine itself.
    An article appeared in the British scientific journal Lancet yesterday, which described two stages of clinical trials of the Russian-made Sputnik V vaccine. The authors of the publication came to the conclusion that the drug created in Russia induces an antibody response and has no serious side effects.

    Quite right, there is such a publication:


    The pure truth:
    ... each article, before appearing on the pages of the publication, is checked by serious experts, whose opinion is not questioned among specialists in a particular field of knowledge.

    Correctly and beautifully designed article for a serious scientific journal.
    For those interested, the link:
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31866-3/fulltext

    But this is not at all obvious.
    The fact that the well-known British journal The Lancet, respected in the world scientific community, has published a publication on the Russian vaccine against coronavirus is evidence of the high quality of this new drug.

    Here, Mikhail Albertovich got a little excited.
    The minister explained that such a publication is considered among specialists a sign of high confidence in the drug.


    It remains completely incomprehensible the conviction of the publishers that
    The authoritative scientific journal Lancet is confident in the vaccine against COVID-19 from Russia
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 6 September 2020 04: 32 New
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      A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
      Yesterday, 12:13 pm I am not an expert in vaccines.
      My post is exclusively about this publication, regardless of the quality, and if not the quality of the vaccine itself ...
      Well, what about without a fly in the ointment! angry tongue laughing It wouldn’t be a halt if it didn’t fit the fan! wassat
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 6 September 2020 06: 50 New
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      A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
      Yesterday, 12: 13

      It remains completely incomprehensible the conviction of publishers that
      The authoritative scientific journal Lancet is confident in the vaccine against COVID-19 from Russia
      I'm sorry, almost. And what will the world's best Hebrew doctors say about this? bully
  11. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 September 2020 20: 30 New
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    Quote: serpent
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Vaccination is voluntary. Do not enter yourself. Show solidarity with leading medical opinion.

    All the same, not a damn thing is clear with this covid. Today in Russia there are more than 5 thousand cases. When there were 10 thousand - there was self-isolation. Now you can go for a walk almost wherever you want, and you are almost never asked to wear a mask anywhere. A huge pile of conflicting information. No wonder the vaccine is viewed askance.

    Хде " Сейчас практически где хочешь гуляй и маску почти нигде не просят надеть" , в Магазинах,в Транспорте ,на рабочем месте в масках ходим laughing
  12. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 September 2020 20: 42 New
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    Russia made two vaccines against Ebola (emnip) for 30 and 40 million dollars at once, which broke off the American bigpharm, which was already prepared to cut funds of international organizations, WHO and private investors to fight Ebola - 700 million dollars in the first stage and 800 million on the second. 

    When you remember this fact, you are not surprised by the angry hysteria of the Anglo-Saxons against the Russian vaccine against Covid-19. laughing
  13. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 September 2020 20: 46 New
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    Our vaccine was both cheaper and safer, there were fewer contraindications for its use initially. Amer vaccine against Ebola - not injectable for those with AIDS. And the Russian can vaccinate even those with AIDS.

    I saw the report with my own eyes and I was struck for the rest of my life by the haggard look of our doctors who had flown in from Africa, gray skin, circles under the eyes, they were engaged in vaccination, and to them, TBM, magazine microphones are shoved under their nose ... ugh ... A French newspaper suggested experimenting with this virus in Africa, on blacks. Like, there are a lot of them - not a pity. laughing In any country in the world that is part of the ICH, registration of a drug is made on the basis of a dossier submitted to the regulatory authorities. The composition of the dossier is standard and the data on the clinic is only one part, and not the most voluminous. There can be no question of any registration based on publications. The procedure is regulated and spelled out inside and out. 

    Preliminary results can be published by the development company itself in the form of a press release. But it will never make it into a major indexed journal as a peer-reviewed scientific article. Publishing in an indexed journal is not a pound of raisins, unverified bullshit is banned in the bud.
  14. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 September 2020 20: 56 New
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    How does he get away with the successes of Russia, and about registration - I can enlighten:
    To bring a drug to the pharmaceutical market of the Russian Federation, it is necessary to register it by receiving a registration certificate.

    Registration is a state examination of the quality and examination of the relationship of the expected benefit to the possible risk of using a medicinal product for the purpose of subsequent approval of the medical use of the drug in the Russian Federation.

    The main regulatory document regulating the registration procedure for medicines:

    •          Федеральный закон № 61-ФЗ «Об обращении лекарственных средств» от 12.04.2010 (вступил в силу 01.09.2010) .
     The following categories of drugs are subject to state registration:

    1.         лекарственные препараты, впервые подлежащие вводу в обращение в Российской Федерации;

    2.         лекарственные препараты, зарегистрированные ранее, но произведенные в других лекарственных формах в соответствии с перечнем наименований лекарственных форм, в новой дозировке при доказательстве ее клинической значимости и эффективности;

    3.         новые комбинации зарегистрированных ранее лекарственных препаратов.

     

    The following are not subject to state registration:

    1.         лекарственные    препараты, изготовленные     аптечными организациями, ветеринарными      аптечными      организациями, индивидуальными предпринимателями, которые имеют   лицензию   на фармацевтическую деятельность, по   рецептам   на   лекарственные препараты и требованиям медицинских организаций, ветеринарных организаций;

    2.         лекарственные препараты, приобретенные физическими лицами за пределами Российской Федерации и предназначенные для личного использования;

    3.         лекарственные препараты, ввозимые в Российскую Федерацию для оказания медицинской помощи по жизненным показаниям конкретного пациента на   основании   разрешения, выданного   уполномоченным федеральным органом исполнительной власти;

    4.         лекарственные средства, ввозимые в Российскую Федерацию на основании    выданного    уполномоченным    федеральным     органом исполнительной власти разрешения и предназначенные для проведения клинических   исследований   лекарственных   препаратов   и (или) проведения экспертизы лекарственных средств для   осуществления государственной регистрации лекарственных препаратов;

    5.         фармацевтические субстанции;

    6.         радиофармацевтические       лекарственные        препараты, изготовленные непосредственно в медицинских организациях в порядке, установленном уполномоченным федеральным органом исполнительной власти;

    7.         лекарственные препараты, производимые для экспорта.

     

    State registration is not allowed:

    1.         лекарственных препаратов, отличающихся друг   от   друга качественным составом действующих веществ, под одинаковым торговым наименованием;ПОЛНОСТЬЮ - здесь https://farmar.ru/proczedura-registraczii-lekarstvennogo-preparata-v-rf.html