Indian Defense Ministry ready to announce a tender for the construction of six submarines

India is ready to announce a tender for the construction of six non-nuclear submarines for the country's navy. According to the Press Trust of India, the tender is likely to be announced by early October this year.

According to the terms of the tender, which has not yet been announced, the NNNs are to be built in India within the framework of a "strategic partnership model" that allows Indian companies to join forces with foreign ones. Submarines must be built to close the gap with the growing capacity of the PLA Navy.

Two Indian shipbuilding companies and five foreign ones are allowed to participate in the tender. The final version includes: Indian Larsen & Toubro (L&T) and state-owned Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited (MDL), as well as German ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems, Spanish Navantia and French Naval Group. Two more companies are not named, but it is expected that they will be the Russian CDB MT "Rubin" and the South Korean Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering.

As part of the tender, the Indian Ministry of Defense will send a request for proposals to Indian companies, which will have to submit their detailed proposals and select a foreign partner from the list presented.

In total, the Indian fleet plans to replenish 24 new submarines, including six nuclear submarines. Today, the Indian Navy has 15 non-nuclear submarines and two nuclear submarines. At the same time, the PLA Navy has more than 50 submarines.

Comments

[Kerensky]

But first, dancing! For a couple of years they will only formulate requirements (but that two elephants must fit in).

[Borik]

The dances have already begun, and from October there will be dances between competitors for this tidbit.

[Civil]

You must be sure to declare. The country needs currency.

[Kerensky]

These dances begin with an "all for nothing" attitude. Then there are the positions "we don't know what we want," "very expensive," and the rest.
It is very difficult to work with Indians - they take out the soul.

[antivirus]

who likes a tambourine, who likes a balalaika. there is an hour of silence ....... in India this is a year of pondering what was said

[Catfish]

We have different people living in our country: to whom from this currency, and to whom ... guess yourself.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

[quote] Different people live in our country: who gets the currency from this, and who ... guess yourself.
[Quote]

But the whining about "they will plunder everything" does not have to start. Tired of "smart people".

From the export of weapons, money is received by the enterprises that create these weapons and the budget of Russia.

[Catfish]

And who here whines about "plundered"? The country is CAPITALISM. Do you have shares in factories and shipyards? I don’t have, but I don’t need a budget anymore, we’re tired of our own whining and praises of your beloved sun. What the hell is medicine and education getting from this budget? To the navy? Two boats and one and a half tugs will be lowered, and it is as if an aircraft carrier group has been built. His money goes to the budget ... of course. The only question is whose.

[Lexus]

To the navy?

Kostya, I'm sorry. The question is, of course, dissonant, but rhetorical and topical. As for the competition - ours have nothing to offer for it, except for the newly "dug out stewardess". All over the world, VNEU has been using it for a long time, but we don't even smell it. Rather, more, something else "phonite". With a lithium-ion theme, and at all ... trouble ...

[Shraik]

Shipyards have more than just shareholders and owners. But still simple hard workers. Who has a family. There will be an order, there will be a salary. Also, in the construction of such a complex engineering product as a submarine, a bunch of related industries are involved. Starting from metallurgical plants and ending with power plants, and they also employ people. Who also have families. But that is not all. Then the hard workers will go to the store and buy bread there. Which is produced at the bakery, which also has workers ...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

[Quote] Two boats and one and a half tugs will be lowered, and it is as if an aircraft carrier group was built. His money goes to the budget ... of course. The only question is whose. [quote]

Do not whine the troll, the budget of Russia also goes to the enterprises that manufacture these weapons.

Russia a month ago laid down 2 UDCs, 2 frigates and 2 nuclear submarines, for a total amount of about 5-6 billion dollars. And this means that it is already under construction, and there are a lot of nuclear submarines and frigates and corvettes under construction.

And yes, there is undoubtedly Putin's merit in this.

[Catfish]

You can yell hurray to your Putin even to the point of turning blue, nothing will change from this. At you, uryakalok, at least a stake on your head, you will yell at the bottom: "The master is right."
I counted five ships laid down on my fingers, folded my fingers into a well-known figure and got a fig instead of a fleet.
Maybe for fun poke your nose into China's shipbuilding program?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

[quote] I counted on my fingers five laid ships [quote]

Well, let's count:

- nuclear submarine Borey 4 has been built, 4 is under construction, 2 is being prepared for laying, contracts have been signed (each nuclear submarine is worth about 1 billion dollars);

- nuclear submarine Ash 1 built, 8 under construction;

- diesel-electric submarines pr.636.3 7 built, 6 under construction;

- UDC pr. 23900 2 are under construction;

- Project 22350 frigates 2 in service, 8 under construction (each worth 500 million dollars);

- Project 11356 frigates 3 in service;

- Corvettes pr. 20380/20385 6 in the ranks of 16 are under construction (each worth 250 million dollars);

- BDK 11711 2 in service, 2 under construction;

- MRK pr.22800 2 in service, 16 under construction;

- Minesweeper pr.12700 3 in service, 12 under construction.

Well, how did your fingers last?

And this is not all, this is just the beginning, Russia is getting stronger and richer every day !!!

[Catfish]

Well, how did your fingers last?

If we take into account the legs, then, of course, it was enough - for those who have already joined the fleet.

And this is not all, this is just the beginning, Russia is getting stronger and richer every day !!!

God forbid, I'm all for, but so far somehow imperceptible.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Of course, you can declare, but in reality we lagged behind in the diesel-electric submarine in terms of VNEU and therefore we have practically no chance of winning. Our Lada runs on conventional batteries and it needs to surface frequently to recharge them when Japan, Germany and even Sweden use diesel-electric submarines with VNEU, which allows them not to surface for several tens of days and not reveal themselves.

In place of India, I would take German diesel-electric submarines with VNEU, the most ideal weapon for the defense of their territorial waters.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

In place of India, I would take German diesel-electric submarines with VNEU, the most ideal weapon for the defense of their territorial waters.

Even the rich burghers of the NAPL with VNEU based on ECH are a burden. It is painfully expensive to maintain them and the infrastructure costs a pretty penny. That is why the Deutschers are already scratching their turnips and are seriously thinking about LIAB as a means of underwater movement ... The French use a "park", the narrow-film ones ride on batteries, the Vikings and Hunfuzes use stirling ...
Only ours "go their own way": the gas turbine is raped, as the reforming of diesel fuel does not work out in any way (unlike the guardians!).
Therefore, Hindi will choose from what is on the market today, for the Chinese are already knocking on the door with a gun. Time props up, and it is unlikely that they will wait for the Russians to be vouchsafed once again to invent a "satellite". But when Malachite is born with a turbine, and the Navy orders a dozen secret ships with this engine (one - underwater and surface passage!), Then the friends of the elephants will come running to us for a purchase. not earlier, so that Rubin does not promise them today, they will buy tomorrow, a proven device.
This is their practice, from which they are not going to give up, as far as I know.
AHA.

[Lionnvrsk]

NNSs are to be built in India within the framework of a "strategic partnership model" that allows Indian companies to join forces with foreign ones. Submarines must be built to close the gap with the growing capabilities of the PLA Navy.

They should turn to the Japanese.

[APASUS]

Wondering what the Indians want? What performance characteristics do they want to lay down or get a ready-made project, an operating submarine. With production, everything seems to be clear, and obtaining equipment and systems technologies is also meant .................

[venik]

Quote: APASUS

Wondering what the Indians want? What performance characteristics do they want to lay down or get a finished project of an operating submarine.

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Almost guaranteed - they will want EVERYTHING! And the BEST! And "almost for nothing" !!!! Take off your hat !!!

[TermNachTer]

If they do it in India, then we should forget about the word "quality" right away))))

[newcomer]

We have already given them one boat to drive, barbarians, damn it.

[Wwk7260]

It was infa that USC was going to acquire a shipyard in India, possibly under this order. Existing in the Russian Federation, taking into account the internal order, such volumes will not be understood.

[newcomer]

You wanted to say USC, I guess.

[Wwk7260]

Yes, thanks, I'll try to fix it.

[TermNachTer]

There was such information. And by the way - it's a very good idea to have your own shipyard in India, in full accordance with their favorite "rattle" - made in India.

[Wwk7260]

It is quite a normal and reasonable "rattle" of the Russian Federation, for example, requires that the production of cars, wagons (Siemens swallow), Siemens gas turbines, etc. This is a global trend.

[TermNachTer]

Well, don't compare the level of Russia and India, there is still a difference.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: TermNachTER

And by the way, it's a very good idea to have your own shipyard in India.

And what's good about it? Instead of developing the infrastructure of your shipyards, providing jobs for your citizens, raising the demand in the country for skilled technicians, do you, together with USC, propose to do all this in India? What for?

[TermNachTer]

Availability of ship repair facilities in the Indian Ocean. Or do you propose to drive a ship from the Gulf of Aden to Sevastopol or Vladivostok for repairs? What prevents you from making sure that the main technical staff there was Russian, and the Indians leave dirty, unskilled work if you are the owner of the shipyard?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: TermNachTER

Availability of ship repair facilities in the Indian Ocean

One thing is a technical support point, another is a shipyard. But the support base should be to provide something, and not just just in case.

Quote: TermNachTER

What prevents you from doing so

Economic feasibility, the one thanks to which the bases in Cam Ranh and Cuba were closed. Taking a watch to build submarines for the Indian Navy is costly folly.

[TermNachTer]

So not only boats for India, but for the repair and maintenance of their ships. Although what prevents the shipyard from operating for sale, from supporting itself?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Economic feasibility, the one thanks to which the bases in Cam Ranh and Cuba were closed.

There is already a solution to Cam Ranh - to return. We are also going to return to Cuba ... and not empty-handed!

[Ingvar 72]

Any links?

[sergo1914]

What a beautiful tarp they have

[Undecim]

Since 2017, the buoyant with these six boats has been dragging on. Is the finish soon?
but it is expected that it will be the Russian CDB MT "Rubin" and the South Korean Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering.
There were negotiations with Saab.

[Gnefredov]

I read a lot about ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems. Serious guys, the law command respect. Most likely, there will be a fight between our Rubin and them.
Well, as the sailors say - 7 feet under the keel! I will watch. It is very interesting!

[Eug]

Yes, and service jackets from VNEU, and the Spaniards are now on the rise .. oh, and it will not be easy ... But even not winning the tender is a precious experience that cannot be neglected. And it should be tightly linked with cooperation in the nuclear submarine, which, as I understand it, no one can offer except Russia and french coats.

[Graz]

I would not get involved with the construction of submarines in India. then all the dogs will be let down for the Indian clubhand
work for a foreign partner, this loss of image will

[NF68]

Again they will bargain for every penny.

[Eug]

Do you know anything about the requirements? Displacement, autonomy, crew size ... at least roughly.