Reported about the features of the newest coastal missile system "Rubezh"

Nikolay Borisov, Deputy General Director of the Morinformsistema-Agat Concern, made a statement regarding the newest Rubezh (coastal missile complex) Rubezh.

According to Borisov, tests of this complex are planned to be completed by the end of 2021. At the same time, the representative of the management of the mentioned concern used the term “guaranteed”.

DBK "Rubezh" is the newest version of the "Ball" complex. "Rubezh" is equipped with cruise missiles capable of destroying various types of enemy ships and auxiliary vessels.

A distinctive feature of the latest missile system is that it consists of one machine. According to the news agency TASS with reference to Nikolai Borisov, this vehicle combines various functions, including reconnaissance, combat control, target designation. It is also a launcher for the Kh-35UE low-altitude cruise missiles.

An important distinguishing feature of the "Rubezh" complex is its chassis. DBK uses a KamAZ vehicle as a chassis.

It is argued that the cost of the Rubezh DBK is significantly lower than its analogues and predecessors.

According to Nikolai Borisov, there is already an interest in the complex from "partners in military-technical cooperation."

Comments

[Zhan]

Good morning everyone. Ideas gush, our engineering school is alive. But how did they manage to cram something unpushy into one car?
Or purely satellite targeting and guidance?

[seregin-s1]

Did Bal have an over-the-horizon radar?

[Zhan]

Did Bal have an over-the-horizon radar?

As far as is known, the complex included a command post on a separate chassis and a reconnaissance, guidance and target designation vehicle. Or am I wrong, especially since the declared range of the new X35 missiles is 250 km.

[Lionnvrsk]

An important distinguishing feature of the "Rubezh" complex is its chassis. DBK uses a KamAZ vehicle as a chassis.

A hint towards the strike Belarus?

[Orange bigg]

After the US withdraws from the INF Treaty, the Rubezh complex will be especially relevant if on its basis it is possible to create a launcher for Caliber and Zircon with minor design changes and in a short time.

[dSK]

If you try it in Kaliningrad, the Polish-Lithuanian "warriors" will blow away faster.

[Orange bigg]

For them, Tornado-S with a new missile at 200 km and Iskander-M will be enough.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: OrangeBigg

the course of the United States from the INF Treaty, the Rubezh complex will be especially relevant if on its basis it is possible to create a launcher for Caliber and Zircon with minor design changes and in a short time.

And here is the Frontier. Edge - X-35. Bastion, on the other hand, shoots with Onyxes and is, in theory, quite compatible with Caliber ..
The question I'm interested in is what is the Iskander cruise missile?

[Kalmar]

Quote: Cyril G ...

The question I'm interested in is what is the Iskander cruise missile?

I believe https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-500_(rocket)

[alexmach]

The question I'm interested in is what is the Iskander cruise missile?

How is it. Well, the same 9M729

[Cyril G ...]

In theory, some kind of 3M14 Caliber, it's good if it's just a modification

[Alex777]

Iskander will be the carrier of the ground Caliber.
And the Bastion can be equipped with ground Zircon.

[Cyril G ...]

Yes, in fact, the main thing is to include in the ammunition both Iskander and Bastion KR 3M14, in extreme cases even by the introduction of a new launcher, but it is highly desirable to combine the KR with the existing launchers

[Alex777]

Everything has already been decided.
I came across an interview with the main developer Iskander. Even before the US abandoned the INF Treaty, he said that "approximately 7 different missiles were developed for Iskander."
So there are no problems with the "ground Caliber" at all.
Bastion is primarily an anti-ship complex. As well as Frontier.
Their main tasks are solved by the Kh-35U, Onyx and, hopefully, in the future, Zircons.
We have few bastions. Iskander - many times more.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Alex777

developed "about 7 different missiles".

Developed? Or are the existing missile types incorporated into the complex?

Bastion is primarily an anti-ship complex.

Bastion also needs a CD to work on facilities on land

[Alex777]

Semyon Semyonich ...

Developed? Or are the existing missile types incorporated into the complex?

I specifically wrote that it was before the cancellation of the INF Treaty.
And now you can do it. But, as you probably know, our leadership said that until the United States brings its INFRMs to Europe, we will not deploy such missiles to the Urals.
Technically, you're done. Politically - on pause. And it is right.

Bastion also needs a CD to work on facilities on land

So both Onyx and Kh-35U have been able to work both on ships and on land for 3 years. It was Bastion that launched Onyx in Syria against ground targets, and the Kh-35U was tested from an airplane.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Alex777

It was Bastion that launched Onyx in Syria, and the Kh-35U was tested from the plane.

RCC, and especially Onyx, is very expensive to fire on the ground ...

[Alex777]

But it is universal. Bastion is not a cheap system at all.
Stirring up the logistics of different missiles for Bastion is not profitable at all.

[Cyril G ...]

And in my opinion, it is wiser to have a stock of the same 3M14 as part of the coastal SCRC. It is necessary if you loaded the CD on the launcher, took a position, for example, on the Tarkhankut metro station and worked the CD for you know what purpose ...

[Alex777]

You know that the control system of Onyx and Caliber is fundamentally different?
Even on ships with UKSK it is not always possible to place both missiles. On 11356, for example, Onyx cannot be put and started.
And you want something unpicked into the car without thinking about the consequences. When necessary, the Iskanders will come to this cape and everything will be ...
In the meantime, Onyx's range of 800 km (along a high-altitude trajectory) provides the necessary deterrence.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Alex777

You know that the control system of Onyx and Caliber is fundamentally different?

They say SUV is being patched ..

[kit88]

I don’t understand something.

... It is also a launcher for Kh-35UE cruise missiles, ...

Does the letter "E" in the article mean that the complex is only exported?

[Kerensky]

Does the letter "E" in the article mean that the complex is only exported?

So I thought about it ... Then the question of one chassis is being decided - it will be shipped "from here".

[venik]

Quote: OrangeBigg

After the US withdraws from the INF Treaty, the Rubezh complex will be especially relevant if on its basis it is possible to create a launcher for Caliber and Zircon with minor design changes and in a short time.

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My friend! Have you just woken up ?: "It is possible to create .... In a short time ....!" EVERYTHING has already been invented before us:
1). DBK "Bastion" (ASM "Onyx"):

2). DBK "Club-M" (CD DB "Caliber")

And "invent do not need anything!!!

[silver_roman]

We will probably soon shoot the serial Vesta frets with calibers))

[silberwolf88]

The length of Russia's maritime borders is large ... yes, in principle, such a long coastline is the largest in the world, and this simply obliges us to have various means of protection ... and the Frontier (one of the elements) here is an important link ... to discourage the probable attack the enemy ...

[Alex777]

And the Frontier can also cover ground targets.
The GOS was finalized about 3 years ago and tested in Syria.
In the "window" flies when necessary.

[Mimino]

I'm not sure if the KamAZ chassis is an advantage. Rather, even sure of the opposite.

[Volder]

Quote: Mimino

I'm not sure if the KamAZ chassis is an advantage.

Import substitution is an advantage. The more domestic parts, mechanisms and devices, the more independence of the Russian defense industry. The more independence, the more sovereignty. It's simple.

[Cyril G ...]

Cheaper. The 8-axle conveyor MZKT under the ICBM launcher But father sells us in general for a billion rubles with a hook.

[alexmach]

And probably easier to maintain. It should also be more walkable.
The question is over, what kind of chassis is that Kamaz? Maybe an 8-axis monster too.

[Cyril G ...]

No.
The author is just too lazy to google, and he considers us to be suckers, they say, and so you eat ..
The border has already been demonstrated.
Here is a control vehicle and SPU based on a 4-axle Kamaz.

[alexmach]

Here is a control vehicle and SPU based on a 4-axle Kamaz

in my opinion very reasonable. Placement of PU on small serial or maximally unified with serial machines should be both economically profitable and easier to maintain and transport. The centipedes are worth keeping for larger rockets.

[Cyril G ...]

I would introduce an even simplified SPU in order to increase salary and somewhat reduce the price of the division

[Boris Chernikov]

for 4 missiles .. how much less) it would be more optimal to develop a version of the missile for attacking ground targets .. the very thing .. Tornado-S for attacking up to 120 km, Line up to 250 km .. and then Iskander and Caliber ..

[Cyril G ...]

Uranus is now capable of attacking pinpoint ground targets

[Boris Chernikov]

Well, I heard it .. radio contrast and all that ... but I would work on it yet .. the same laser beam guidance, say, or, what if, a television channel .. but this is mriy .. in any case, if this complex will be subordinated to the ground, which means it is taken for attacks on ground targets, but for now it is a pure DBK, the most important thing is that in theory the production of these DBKs can be increased, since there is no binding to the MZKT / MAZ chassis, but there is KAMAZ ..

[antivirus]

Belarusians need to be sold - protect the Belarusian sea and shrimps

[A. Privalov]

An important distinguishing feature of the "Rubezh" complex is its chassis. DBK uses a KamAZ vehicle as a chassis.

This is a hint But Batske, they say, the good old MAZ-543M will not be used anymore?

[Cyril G ...]

No, the ball was staged at another MZKT. Bastion, however, is also installed on the MZKT chassis.

And the S-300 and S-400 have been installed on the BAZ chassis for 5-6 years already. BAZ entered Almaz-Antey.

[Hermit21]

"Ball" for the tight-fisted "

[moreman78]

Quote: Zhan

Good morning everyone. Ideas gush, our engineering school is alive. But how did they manage to cram something unpushy into one car?
Or purely satellite targeting and guidance?

It's very simple - they cut by half the number of missiles on the launcher ...

[Zhan]

A very dubious decision, absolutely not solving the problem of target designation and guidance.

[alexmach]

Like in the Ukrainian "neptune"

[Old26]

Quote: OrangeBigg

After the US withdraws from the INF Treaty, the Rubezh complex will be especially relevant

And where does the INF Treaty

[Old26]

Quote: alexmach

How is it. Well, the same 9M729

9M728. Is the 9M729 in service now and whether it can be launched from the standard Iskander SPU is unknown

Quote: Cyril G ...

Cheaper. The 8-axle conveyor MZKT under the ICBM launcher But father sells us in general for a billion rubles with a hook.

just over 65 million for PU last year

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Old26

just over 65 million for PU last year

And I read a billion for the PU car. And I didn’t just read a contract statement

[Old26]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Quote: Old26

just over 65 million for PU last year

And I read a billion for the PU car. And I didn’t just read a contract statement

So do I. But more than a billion is a contract for the supply of several APUs plus other units of the complex.

[Cyril G ...]

I realized that we are talking about one SPU