The network discusses the manipulation of a soldier with the "shank" of a mine at the "Army-2020" artillery competition

The final stage of the Army Competition "Masters of Artillery Fire" has started on the territory of the Saratov Region. We are talking about a relay program that will last for several days. The events are held within the framework of the Army 2020 forum.

Teams of military personnel from several countries, including Mongolia and Vietnam, compete, including in the accuracy of mortar crews.

The users' attention was drawn to the actions of one of the mortar crews. The video, published by the Russian defense department, shows certain manipulations by a soldier with a 120-mm mine. The participant of the competition ties the “shank” of the mines with peculiar oblong bags. He places two such bags in the area of ​​the mine shank. After that, the mine is placed in the mortar and a shot is fired.

When discussing manipulations on the network, it was suggested that these are not additional charges, but some kind of special substance that causes the smoke from the explosion to turn into a certain color, so that you can understand which particular team's ammunition hit the target or left.

From the reaction of spectators in the stands located at the training ground, it is clear that not all of the released ammunition hits the target.

Additionally, it is worth noting that during the relay race, servicemen move on trucks, which on the route must overcome various obstacles, including water.

#Video The final stage of the "Masters of Artillery Fire" "Relay" competition has started in the Saratov Region. The stage will take place in a few days https://t.co/qDPztQJlxQ #MAO #ArMI2020 #ArmyGames #Mortar #BattlePreparation pic.twitter.com/4gSh7bX5UJ

- Russian Ministry of Defense (@mod_russia) September 1, 2020

Comments

[Lopatov]

They're actually charges. That is, what shoots a mine from a mortar barrel. Additional charges. There is also the main one, in the shank. Serving for additional ignition. It is forbidden to shoot on it without additional ones.

[audigamma]

Yeah, to increase the range of the mine.

[Lopatov]

Quote: audigamma

Yeah, to increase the range of the mine.

You could say that.
But it is better to reduce the flight range of the mine (after all, you can leave one charge, "long-range"). Reducing the range, reducing the height of the trajectory and increasing the angle of fall of the mine.
Well, and reducing the consumption of the barrel resource

[Fantomchik]

Yeah. The propellant charge has not yet been canceled. The wildest article for incompetence!

[zadorin1974]

What do you want Roman. If bloggers have become the main providers of information? Any stupid organism that considers itself an airship begins to write (emphasis on the first syllable, and even with pathos) about things that have been read or seen from the same stupid organism in a spin. such bloopers are issued by specialized publications and channels.

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Fantomchik

The wildest article for incompetence!

It seems that Olya Nikitina from Vzglyad wrote an article. She then arrested two terrorists in four cities, then the hydraulics in the plane fell.

[Eragon]

Quote: Fantomchik

Yeah. The propellant charge has not yet been canceled. The wildest article for incompetence!

Well, you all started to make fun of. The article may not be very good, but not all mortar gunners are around. Having served my seniority as a signalman in the Air Force, I would never have guessed that this was some kind of extra. charges with which the firing range is regulated. Well, I haven't seen a mortar in my entire service, not to mention its mines. Only in museums.

[certero]

Quote: Spade

It is forbidden to shoot on it without additional ones.

This is not true. You can shoot without additional

[Lopatov]

Quote: certero

This is not true. You can shoot without additional

[fiberboard]

Why? We fired in Chechnya on a kick-out. Comrade Colonel commanded us.

[Lopatov]

Quote: fiberboard

Why? We fired in Chechnya on a kick-out. Comrade Colonel commanded us.

And all the mines went off?

[armored cat]

Yes, everything worked well)

[Lopatov]

Quote: Bronekot

Yes, everything worked well)

Lucky.

[Lopatov]

Speaking of birds, and the mortar from which "We fired in Chechnya on a kick-out. Comrade Lieutenant Colonel commanded us"Was it 120 mm sure?

[armored cat]

You can shoot without special stages, and all the rules

[Lopatov]

Quote: Bronekot

You can shoot without special stages, and all the rules

"In that direction"?
There are no firing tables for the main charge.

[strannik1985]

The author is serious? Those. does not know why they knit additional charges on the mine?

[Lopatov]

Or maybe the author believed that in Russia, at last, they began to use more adequate additional charges for mines?

[bk0010]

Why add. charges do not damage the gimbal? In theory, when burning, add. charges, emitted gases should act "to break" the mine, push the hull and the stabilizer in different directions.

[Lopatov]

Quote: bk0010

Why add. charges do not damage the gimbal?

You will be tortured to damage it

[armored cat]

When a mine explodes, part of the stabilizer is the most harmful, large and indestructible due to which it has a large penetration

[Insurgent]

Quote: Bronekot

When a mine explodes, part of the stabilizer is the most harmful, large and indestructible due to which it has a large penetration

The stabilizer, the most objective part of the mine, by sticking it into the ground with almost 100% certainty, you can determine the direction (azimuth) from where the shot was fired ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: strannik1985

The author is serious? Those. does not know why they knit additional charges on the mine?

Indeed, he could have taken an interest in the subject described. Moreover, in the days of the Internet, running to the library or looking for specialists is not at all necessary.

And relatively "knit" ...
I met additional powder for 82 mm mines in special-shaped "pouches" resembling the appearance of the "Grover's Washer" made, unlike others (canvas "sausages" with strings), made of silk (synthetics), which are held on the mine shank due to their elasticity , that is, they do not have "ties" ...

[Senka naughty]

Quote: Insurgent

Indeed, he could have taken an interest in the subject described. Moreover, in the days of the Internet, running to the library or looking for specialists is not at all necessary.

So he took an interest in his "colleagues", he was enlightened -

When discussing manipulations on the network, it was suggested that this is some kind of special substance that causes the smoke from the explosion to be colored in a certain color, so that one can understand which particular team's ammunition hit the target or went past.

[rocket757]

Just a hitch of gunpowder ... without it, the mine flops down to the crew's feet.

[LiSiCyn]

Maybe I don't understand something ... Or maybe the newsman doesn't understand something? But these "bags" are kind of like a powder charge .. ?? !! And the number of "bags", the firing range is regulated.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Add. charges by changing their number, you change the initial speed of the mine and therefore the range. This is the first approximation.

[Bad_gr]

If there was this article on April 1, one would laugh. And I don't even know how to react.

[rotmistr60]

When discussing manipulations in the network, an assumption was made ...

This clearly shows that on the network often with "smart look and knowledge of the matter" they discuss something about which they have no idea. Well, if you don't know that additional charges are hung on the mine depending on the firing range, then ask modestly what it is, and do not put forward your assumptions.

[UVB]

This clearly shows that on the network often with "smart look and knowledge of the matter" they discuss something about which they have no idea.

Not only online. Once on the Zvezda TV channel (!!!) a reporter in a report from a training exercise involving T-80u tanks cleverly explained that "u" means "training" !!!

[Cat Kuzya]

Yes, no ... It is he who decorates the mine like this: one little white bag is beautiful, two little white bags are doubly beautiful.

[notingem]

And at the same time sings. The holiday comes to you ....... and so on

[loki565]

the author of the article pleased, I thought there were no such VOs)))

[Insurgent]

Quote: loki565

the author of the article pleased, I thought there were no such

В Greece Everything is there

[Fibrizio]

This is gunpowder. They regulate the range of the shot. Here, by the way, our "partners" have gone a little further than us in terms of convenience. They have them in the form of plastic donuts with a slot. They are not afraid of water. They just put them on and that's it. Conveniently. Or do we have it too?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Fibrizio

Here, by the way, our "partners" have gone a little further than us in terms of convenience

Above is a Russian mine with such additional charges

[Fibrizio]

Then it is not clear why there is no unification. "Cheap" bags for the landfill, and normal containers for the war?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Fibrizio

"Cheap" bags for the landfill, and normal containers for the war?

There are also cheap "bags" for the war
We save a lot on battalion artillery.

[Radical]

Quote: strannik1985

The author is serious? Those. does not know why they knit additional charges on the mine?

The author simply decided to organize a "discussion". On the empty place.

[APASUS]

What did I not understand, what did the author see there? The propellant charge binds. Is it the first time the author sees a mortar?

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Radikal

The author simply decided to organize a "discussion". On the empty place.

You should also know the author's name so that you don't waste time reading it later.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Vladimir61

You should also know the name of the author,

It is unlikely that anyone will be surprised if it turns out that the author's name is Plagiarism Anonymovich Kopipastov.

[Nikolaevich I]

it has been suggested that these are not additional charges, but some kind of special substance that causes the smoke from the explosion to turn into a certain color, so that one can understand which particular team's ammunition hit the target or left. What is this "bullshit"? What kind of "Dunka from the village of Gadyukino" opened this "news"? It is better for such a "dunka" to suck a lollipop than to comment on something!

[Recon]

Lord, what I just read ... disgrace. VO, I ask you, do not miss this "content" anymore.

[Romanenko]

Quote: "... it has been suggested that these are not additional charges, but some special substance that causes the smoke from the explosion to be colored in a certain color"
Well, yes, here they are couch experts, they have a mortar, a slingshot?
Do they have a little idea what happens inside when a shot is fired ???

[novel66]

only the calculations of the Ukrainian "molot" know for sure about this .... the survivors ..

[karpusha]

I somehow thought that this is used only in the countries of the former USSR. But somehow not so long ago I saw exactly the same bags from mortars, either from the United States, or from Great Britain during exercises. Generally normal.

[Vladimir Demyanov]

I don't know how it is now, but something similar was done with a separate-case loading shot when firing from a howitzer, which had its own ..mmm .. charm: increasing (decreasing) the firing range + reducing the barrel height, which is unattainable in a unitary shot. And there were also shots .. I will not go into details. And the shank of the mine, he, bastard, almost does not kill.

[bk316]

And it seems to me that either a bot or a child wrote.
The fact that the author has never seen a mortar is God bless him.
Pay attention to the ENTIRE article. The paragraphs are not related to each other in any way. First about the bags, then about the reaction of the audience, and suddenly "additionally" about the cars they drive.
This is how children usually write in elementary school, well, they just lack the skill to write coherently.

The second option is the most severe non-intellectual copy-paste.

[Grognag]

These are rookie bags

[Vladimir Demyanov]

This cannot be: "Novice", if it were used, would be inside the body of a mortar mine, otherwise, as shown, it would simply burn out. And, as has been noted more than once, he would not have poisoned anyone to death.