The first launch of the Starship spacecraft into orbit is planned for 2021

The American company SpaceX is planning the first test flight in low-earth orbit of the Starship spacecraft in 2021. This was stated by Elon Musk, speaking at a videoconference dedicated to the problem of manned flight to Mars.

Answering the relevant question, Musk explained that Starship will most likely make a test flight into low-earth orbit next year, 2021. However, he did not rule out that this flight may not work out, since the company operates in "uncharted territory."

No one has ever made an entirely reusable orbital rocket

- he added.

Musk said that before making a flight to Mars with people on board, the ship must complete "hundreds of missions with satellites."

We have made significant progress. What really stands in the way of progress for Starship is the production system. A year ago there was nothing, but now we have quite large production facilities. So we are rapidly producing more and more ships

- He said.

Note that in August the Starship SN5 prototype first ascended to a height of 150 meters, moved to the side and made a successful landing. It is noted that this test was the first successful for the Starship prototype. Previous takeoff attempts in November 2019, in February, April and May of this year, ended in failure.

As previously stated by Musk, the final version of the Starship will have a height of almost 50 meters, a mass with a full load of fuel - 1400 tons. Equipped with 37 Raptor engines, it will be able to launch up to 150 tons of load into orbit or transport up to 100 people.

The Starship spacecraft is set to become the largest and most cargo-carrying manned spacecraft in stories. The main purpose of this ship is to deliver colonists to the moon and Mars. In the Starship Super Heavy version, it will be more powerful and heavier than the NASA Saturn V rocket, which delivered the Apollo astronauts to the moon.

The company planned to start commercial flights on Starship in the 2022 year.

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[Sentinel-vs]

Running so many motors in sync is a challenge. On the Soviet N-1, this problem was not fully resolved.

[voyaka uh]

They managed to synchronize 27 engines on Falcon Heavy (9 X 3).
Musk also doubted then.
Probably 37 will win.
To date, Musk has moved to third place in the list of the most
richest people in the world, overtaking Facebook owner Zuckerberg.
120 billion, you can spend some of it on Mars.

[Wwk7260]

At one time, Korolev talked about Yangel's and Chelomey's missiles, these pencils will not fly anywhere, but they flew, now many designers talk about the Mask's barrel like that.

[military_cat]

Are there any details where Korolev said this? Google didn't help.

[Wwk7260]

A documentary film about Chelomey or Yangel was shown for a long time, it was said about the missiles of one of them, I don't remember who exactly, so I mentioned both, and it's better to read instead of "and" "or" but I can't fix it anymore.

[Wwk7260]

Type in Yandex "Korolev about Yangel's missiles said" get the text "Korolev called Yangel's missiles" pencils "and said that they would not fly anywhere" We reject Chelomey! We confirm about Yangel.

[military_cat]

Yes, I found where this phrase comes from - from the book "Yangel. Lessons and Legacy" Thank you.

There is an opinion that S.P. Korolyov could not stand it and, under the pretext of launching his geophysical rocket, flew from Tyura-Tam, where the first two unsuccessful launches of his R-7 intercontinental rocket took place before, to Kapustin Yar. Glancing over the rocket standing on the launch pad with a glance of an authoritative judge, he formulated his opinion about Yangelev's creation categorically:

- What is this pencil? It will break before it can take off!

[ALEX_SHTURMAN]

From Musk's last interview: SpaceX is trying to simplify the Super Heavy booster configuration so that the number of engines can be reduced to 28 instead of 31. There are still too many engines. We are looking for an opportunity to increase the booster tanks (so that they can hold up to 2000 tons of fuel).

- The outer contour of Super Heavy engines (20 units) will have a thrust of 250 tons.

About the Raptor engine:

- Raptor can reach 200: 1 thrust-to-weight ratio. It is possible that the thrust-optimized Raptor variant could achieve this thrust-to-weight ratio. It would be even better than the Merlin 1D, which holds the current world record of ~ 180: 1.

[orionvitt]

Quote: voyaka uh

To date, Musk has moved to third place in the list of the most
richest people in the world, overtaking Facebook owner Zuckerberg.

Don't confuse capital and assets. These are somewhat different things. You can have multibillion-dollar assets and a trillion-dollar capitalization, but at the same time it is corny not to have a "penny" in your pocket and sit up to your ears in debt. Such are the quirks of financial capitalism. Not today, tomorrow, the stock exchange will fall, and everything is as if there were no trillions. This has happened more than once in history.

[voyaka uh]

Sure. You can have a huge apartment in the center of Moscow and
rummage through the trash heaps in search of scraps.
But the price of the apartment will be included in the assets of the owner of the apartment.
And he will be considered a millionaire.
Or, conversely, a beggar woman on the porch, spending the night in a dugout, may have
bag of dirty dollars.
And he will also be considered a millionaire.
However, all this does not apply to Musk.

[orionvitt]

Quote: voyaka uh

However, all this does not apply to Musk.

Why doesn't this apply? Is he some kind of special, or is he already living on Mars? An ordinary person living on earth, and moreover, subject to all the laws of capitalism. Which say that with overcapitalization, financial bubbles will burst sooner or later. And then only debts remain. By the way, both the "apartment in Moscow" and the bag of "dirty dollars" are real assets; they have nothing to do with virtual capitalization on the stock exchange. So, your example is not entirely correct.

[bar]

To date, Musk has moved to third place in the list of the most
richest people in the world

This "wealth" is just the numbers in the exchange computers, wound up as a result of speculation in shares.

[PVL176]

The main problem of H1 is the death of the Queen, Mishin did not pull. All N1 accidents were caused by Kuznetsov's engines, which were disposable and installed without firing tests. Turbopump units exploded in them. There were self-oscillations, but this is not the main reason. By 1974, the H1 variant with reusable tested engines was ready, but the new chief Glushko hacked this rocket to death.

[Blackmokona]

Note that in August the Starship SN5 prototype first ascended to a height of 150 meters, moved to the side and made a successful landing. It is noted that this test was the first successful for the Starship prototype. Previous takeoff attempts in November 2019, in February, April and May of this year, ended in failure.

All takeoff attempts were successful, accidents were during checks for maximum pressure for the tanks.

[bk316]

All takeoff attempts were successful

How much is all this?
How many times has he flown?

[Blackmokona]

I flew an earlier prototype Starhoper several times (minimum height, ten meters, 150 meters), and here is the SN-5, a more recent version, and now the SN-6 is being prepared

[Victorio]

similar to papelats, slamzy idea from Daneli

[KAV]

It means that it won't fly without gravity.

[g1washntwn]

Gravity has long been in his pants pocket. Himself slammed or planted no longer the essence.

[zwlad]

And it will fly.
This is what an incredible desire, backed up by not sickly finances, means.
Good for you!
Good luck to him.

[donavi49]

Well, this is really a very risky undertaking. He made a big bet - went to the revolutionary system.

At this time, competitors are working on evolutionary systems, which, in the event of a failure of the Starship, can press 9k on the market. And in this case, Musk will suddenly run out of money, because without commercial launches he will not survive. Well, or launch tough lobbyists in the Senate Congress, who will grind the lobbyists for Boeing and Lockheed. However, there is not very much, the state order is 6-8 launches per year.

Methane rockets from competitors will fly next year. This year Alpha is in a highly demanded weight segment. In 22, a rocket will fly with a robot-3d printer line from Relivity.

Well, the last launch from Musk. We sat ashore, after sunset, it came out beautifully.

[Blackmokona]

Musk can live on the launch of his own Starlink satellites.

[your1970]

his many complaints about satellite internet

[Blackmokona]

Great trouble

[bar]

Mask dramatically money and run out, because without commercial launches he will not survive. Well, or launch tough lobbyists in the Senate Congress, who will grind the lobbyists for Boeing and Lockheed.

Do you think he has no lobbyists now? Or do you think he launches all his projects for his own money?

[Blackmokona]

Well, with the lobbyists, everything is bad for him. He does not even have permission to sell his Teslas throughout the United States.

[bar]

Well, he's bad with lobbyists

I do not believe. Judging by the profit that the California authorities helped him to make with only his "sunny cities", and how the homeowners were bent over, it's a sin to complain to Musk's lobby.
https://cybernatic-cat.livejournal.com/1630549.html?nojs=1
https://habr.com/ru/post/443968/

[Blackmokona]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_US_dealership_disputes
You can read here.

I do not believe. Judging by how much profit the California authorities helped him to make with only his "sunny cities", and how the homeowners were bent over, it's a sin to complain to Musk's lobby. laughing

All solar panel subsidies apply to everyone, not just Mask.
I read the link to the Habr, there Solar City is mentioned only once, as if everything is bad for her and the conversation about competitors continues.

[donavi49]

It is very difficult for him to pass to state orders. For example, here I almost banged right on the NROL44 table at Delta Heavy - the most expensive PH in the world today. 435 million dollars for this rocket was paid by the budget.

They stopped already on the ignition ...

Whereas Musk with his Havik, who for 250 million even sends a profit for himself one way, is still dynamite, certification, additional certification, another year to wait, etc.

This year, for example, Musk sent 2 rockets on the NASA line, and 1 on the US Air Force line (another GPS satellite). This is from 14 launches.

Last year, out of 13 launches - 4 for NASA and 1 for the military under certification. At the same time, the latter launched 3 deltas at the horse price tag and 1 Atlas.

[Narak-zempo]

This means that the Pentagon knows something about Musk's missiles and does not trust their devices to a swindler.
For Argentines and other homeless people it will do, but not to carry Uncle Sam.

[Freemason Mason]

On September 3-5, a test jump of 150m of the SN6 prototype is expected

September 6-8 - tests of prototype SN7.1 for maximum pressure in the tank

And then the jump of SN8 or SN9 for 20 km and the test of the Super Heavy accelerator prototype are just around the corner.

[Interlocutor]

I wish he had a 20 km jump

[ultra]

I wonder how you plan to rescue the crew in the event of an accident at the launch site?

[Blackmokona]

It is planned to perform hundreds of flights before the departure of people, and thereby be certified as passenger liners. Which do not have SAS systems, detachable cabins and even parachutes for passengers.

[military_cat]

The Starship has its own liquid-propellant rocket engines; in case of a carrier crash, it can be taken away with their help, like the Cru Dragon with the help of SuperDraco.

[Blackmokona]

This does not cover the entire launch site, because Starship also serves as the second stage of the system.
And so yes, it can fly away from the first stage.

[ultra]

Thank you, I already understood that there is no SAS and all hope is for God and reliability.

[ALEX_SHTURMAN]

As I understand. In the event of a booster crash during the launch phase, Starship will fly off the booster (first stage) on its own engines, after which it will return to the launch site, like the Falkon9 Boosters.

[Narak-zempo]

The ship is reusable, the crew is not.

[grandfather_Kostya]

They managed to synchronize 27 engines on Falcon Heavy (9 X 3).

"This is different" (c). Three barrels of 9 engines do not give such pipeline confusion as on the H-1 with 30 engines.

[ALEX_SHTURMAN]

Most likely Super Heavy, like Falkon9, will be divided into 8 sections with protective barriers, 3 engines each in a section along the perimeter with an increased thrust of 250 tons without the possibility of throttling and swinging and one central section with 4 or 3 engines with swinging and throttling ... the thrust should be in the region of 7000t. There will be many pipelines, but it is even more difficult to make a bottom that will withstand all of this .. An epic design ..

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN

but it is even more difficult to make a bottom that will withstand all this

Bottom, yes.
This is approximately how Musk starts when our TEM flies to Mars.

[KrolikZanuda]

Handsome Musk. There is already more faith in him than in Roskosmos.

[bar]

Handsome Musk. There is already more faith in him than in Roskosmos.

"There is no prophet in his own country" (c)

[Perseverance]

2021 will be an intense year if all goes according to plan. And a massive transition is coming on a gas engine (hydrogen), except for Angara-5.
The first flight of the SLS to the Moon in October or November 2020 should be a 3 minute static rocket burn

new glen

Ula Vulcan

Arian 6

[Lontus]

In August 2019, he promised a 20 km jump in October and almost immediately an orbital flight.
Aiming for 20km flight in Oct & orbit attempt shortly thereafter.
16:48 - 28 Aug 2019 year

Really cheated?
--
There will be no successful star ship orbiter in 2021.

[Blackmokona]

Failed, there were problems with the durability of the tanks, environmental assessment and permission from government agencies, as well as problems with local residents.
We solved the problems with the tanks.
Environmental assessment in progress.
Permission received from government agencies.
All the houses of local residents were bought by SpaceX by mutual agreement, and they no longer represent problems.

[Interlocutor]

There will be no successful star ship orbiter in 2021.

I also think it won't.
Will be in about 7 years. At best ... Sea of ​​work ...

[unhappy]

Starship - in Russian this is a starship
I don’t understand marketing and PR, but you have to have a conscience.

[Lontus]

Quote: unhappy

Starship - in Russian this is a starship

more precisely "star ship"

[unhappy]

This is a stupid google translation, in life we ​​speak and write a starship. Possibly outdated definition, but correct.

[fider]

unhappy

I don't understand

Execution cannot be pardoned.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: unhappy

Starship - in Russian this is a starship
I don’t understand marketing and PR, but you have to have a conscience.

starshit