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Presented Russian monoblock "Graviton M50B" running OS Astra Linux

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Presented Russian monoblock "Graviton M50B" running OS Astra Linux

The Astra Linux group of companies and the 3Logic Group Science and Technology Center within the framework of the Army-2020 forum showed the Russian compact monoblock "Graviton M50B" with the "Baikal BE-M100" processor, running under the special purpose operating system Astra Linux.


According to the developers, this device is suitable for organizations participating in the import substitution program. It is reliable and provides information security. The novelty is positioned as a ready-made solution for creating an automated workstation for a civil servant. The Graviton M50B monoblock has received an examination certificate from the RF Chamber of Commerce and Industry, confirming its Russian production. In the near future, it is expected to be included in the "Unified Register of Russian Radio-Electronic Products" of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia.

The monoblock is certified for use with Russian operating systems and is suitable for use in organizations implementing an import substitution strategy in the IT sector. Our solution, protected from the point of view of cyber threats and physical impact, is undoubtedly the subject of interest of the Russian Ministry of Defense and other power structures.

- stated in 3Logic Group.


Specifications: Processor - Baikal BE-M1000, operating system - Alto Workstation 9, Astra Linux Special Edition release Novorossiysk version 4.2, display - 23,8-inch IPS FHD standard (1920 x 1080), RAM - up to 32 GB, graphics controller - built-in Mali-T628, drives - up to 2 x 2,5 "HDD / SSD SATA, solid-state drive - PCI-e / SATA M.2 format, camera - 2 megapixels, audio system - 2 speakers of 3 W each, Wi-Fi + Bluetooth (optional), front panel 2 USB 2.0 ports, 1 Type C port, combo microphone / headphone jack, rear panel - 2 USB 3.1 ports, 2 USB 2.0 ports, VGA, HDMI out, RJ- 45, 1 audio port, microphone port.

Options: card reader, smart card reader, optical drive, uninterruptible power supply, I / O port protection cover, power supply.
Photos used:
https://graviton.3l.ru/
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  1. unaha
    unaha 31 August 2020 16: 45 New
    32
    The cost was mercifully not indicated ...
    1. Undecim
      Undecim 31 August 2020 16: 55 New
      14
      The price of 150 rubles is wandering around the network.
      1. unaha
        unaha 31 August 2020 17: 02 New
        0
        This is the one from "Edelweiss". About the one from 3Logic is still unclear - just presented, but probably in the same order.
      2. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 31 August 2020 19: 18 New
        +4
        Quote: Undecim
        price from 150 rubles

        It's inexpensive, only one camera in the monoblock is already 2 megapixels!
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 31 August 2020 17: 51 New
      +7
      Well, as soon as domestic monoblocks appear in the offices of the Presidential Administration and the Government of the Russian Federation, then you can talk about the price.
      1. Husit
        Husit 31 August 2020 17: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Terenin
        Well, as soon as domestic monoblocks appear in the offices of the Presidential Administration and the Government of the Russian Federation, then you can talk about the price.

        It is high time to change everything, why they pull it is not clear!
        1. michael2000
          michael2000 31 August 2020 18: 39 New
          0
          It is high time to change everything, why they pull it is not clear!

          Because there is no software for such machines, because a lot of people will have to be retrained, because a lot of programs will need to be rewritten.
          1. Victor Tsenin
            Victor Tsenin 31 August 2020 18: 51 New
            17
            Is there no software for Linux?)
            1. Husit
              Husit 31 August 2020 19: 15 New
              +7
              Quote: Victor Tsenin
              Is there no software for Linux?)

              You are right that everything is there, but the lobby that has settled down in all structures in every possible way slows down and vulgarizes everything ..
              Quote: _Sergey_
              If there is Linux, then programs for it will be written. And for official use and government agencies is suitable. Don't play with toys

              That's right, this is the security of the state! Now these new Windows actually completely take control of the computer and that they send there and all sorts of requests, updates .. CHEER !!!
              1. Imperial Technocrat
                Imperial Technocrat 2 September 2020 12: 59 New
                0
                What Windows, what are the messages and requests? Computers of serious persons of the state are not even connected to the Internet
            2. Simargl
              Simargl 31 August 2020 19: 30 New
              -3
              Quote: Victor Tsenin
              Is there no software for Linux?)
              I bought a CNC machine from the Chinese, and it’s so dead.
              1. Svetlana
                Svetlana 2 September 2020 13: 18 New
                0
                In addition, for free, they send the control software to such machines at the central house
                1. Simargl
                  Simargl 3 September 2020 15: 11 New
                  0
                  Quote: Svetlana
                  In addition, for free, they send the control software to such machines at the central house
                  Not screwed.
            3. AML
              AML 31 August 2020 22: 45 New
              +4
              Quote: Bashkirkhan
              Quote: Undecim
              price from 150 rubles

              It's inexpensive, only one camera in the monoblock is already 2 megapixels!

              And why is there more? Photos in instu post?
          2. _Sergei_
            _Sergei_ 31 August 2020 19: 00 New
            +8
            If there is Linux, then programs for it will be written. And for official use and government agencies is suitable. Not to play with toys.
            1. Navel
              Navel 2 September 2020 10: 55 New
              -1
              The Baikal-T1 processors used in the board (new official name - BE-T1000) are directly produced at the factory of the Taiwanese company TSMC. Read full US control and the possibility of imposing sanctions on processor manufacturing.
              1. Svetlana
                Svetlana 2 September 2020 13: 22 New
                +2
                Yes sir. And nobody makes a secret out of this. They are made according to Russian, that is, developed in Russia, templates. Do you think they bring something of their own there?
          3. bk316
            bk316 31 August 2020 19: 19 New
            +5
            Because there is no software for such machines,

            And what kind of software do you need for computers from the presidential administration?
            And to retrain, then transferring from Windows to Linux is a much simpler thing than it seems, well, unless, of course, to work at work and not play ...
            1. SovAr238A
              SovAr238A 31 August 2020 21: 54 New
              -1
              Quote: bk316
              Because there is no software for such machines,

              And what kind of software do you need for computers from the presidential administration?
              And to retrain, then transferring from Windows to Linux is a much simpler thing than it seems, well, unless, of course, to work at work and not play ...

              This is much more expensive than it seems, you can simply paralyze the work of the department, for a couple of weeks, or even months ...
              Here, the introduction of new programs from 1C takes years ...
              1. g1washntwn
                g1washntwn 1 September 2020 07: 12 New
                -5
                Quote: SovAr238A
                This is much more expensive than it seems, you can simply paralyze the work of the department for a couple of weeks, or even months ... Here, the introduction of new programs from 1C takes years ...

                I remember that there was only one madam who worked for us, and they still couldn't get her out of the department to retire. And all the reports - only on the calculator, from the monitor of colleagues was obscured by the picture "so that they would not irradiate me" ... They put her computer and said that now only SAP was blown away at the moment.
                So it is here. The more difficult it is, the sooner all this "Soviet perestroika guard" will dump the retirement. Talented young people will come, motivated to change - they will figure it out, pump over the hard, and the software, and life, and everyday life. After all, not everyone is running around like Banderlog on anti-national actions and dreaming of money falling from the sky ...
                1. Warrior-80
                  Warrior-80 1 September 2020 09: 07 New
                  10
                  Talented youth sometimes do not really know anything except a computer and toys, then it turns out that on May 9, posters with the Nazis are stamped.
                  1. g1washntwn
                    g1washntwn 1 September 2020 09: 33 New
                    -2
                    In parentheses, take otherwise you create the impression that you are discussing the whole universe from the view from your window.
              2. bk316
                bk316 1 September 2020 12: 47 New
                +2
                you can simply paralyze the work of the department

                Of course, a bad deed is not tricky, but you can, for example, contact my office and everything will happen without paralysis laughing In general, this is what people usually do ...
            2. Narak-zempo
              Narak-zempo 1 September 2020 08: 23 New
              +1
              Quote: bk316
              And what kind of software do you need for computers from the presidential administration?

              iLinux - with an apple laughing
      2. astepanov
        astepanov 31 August 2020 19: 19 New
        +9
        I remember, in 74 - 76 years. in military unit 55622, I calculated the flight data of operational-tactical missiles using an entirely domestic Felix-M computer. The most reliable machine, resistant to special effects, lightweight and reliable. You take a pencil in your teeth, in your right hand - the handle of a computer and twist it to calluses. They could have done good things, right? With the collapse of the USSR, the technology for the production of this technique was lost, which is a pity. That would be our officials. True, you can't play solitaire or play porn on it, but this is an advantage, not a disadvantage. And it is impossible to make bookmarks - except, perhaps, mines under the casing, and even then it is quite small.
        1. Undecim
          Undecim 31 August 2020 19: 35 New
          +8
          Yes, the legendary device.
          1. Undecim
            Undecim 31 August 2020 19: 38 New
            12
            But there was also more advanced technology for the rocket men.
    3. iouris
      iouris 31 August 2020 18: 01 New
      +1
      If the volume of sales reaches hundreds of millions of pieces per year, then the cost will plummet.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Husit
        Husit 31 August 2020 19: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: iouris
        If the volume of sales reaches hundreds of millions of pieces per year, then the cost will plummet.

        And maybe it will be even worse for Windu .. Many countries will start to switch to Linux as a safe operating system .. Snowden is not sitting here for nothing (he got married even here) He told everything about how the system operates on surveillance and not only the US NSA!
        So it’s not in vain that such a shout about this
    4. Rebe haim
      Rebe haim 31 August 2020 20: 57 New
      +4
      "... The monoblock presented at the exhibition is a unique Russian development on a global scale, which we plan to promote not only on the domestic but also on the international market.
      ... The retail price of a fully functional product is about 150 thousand rubles. ... "
      said the commercial director of the scientific and technical center 3Logic Group Maxim Balabanov.
      He's also with humor.
      1. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 31 August 2020 22: 18 New
        +5
        alas, of course, in terms of if ours guarantee security, certain countries and structures come to purchase, but in general, we need to work on the civilian version ... prescribe a two-system system ... install a fixed Astra at the factory, and let the user put the second axis what he wants ... in case games in "Windows no longer works" Astra is launched .. in this case, it will increase sales in the civilian sector and reduce the price in general ..
      2. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 2 September 2020 13: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: Rebe Haim
        "... The monoblock presented at the exhibition is a unique Russian development on a global scale, which we plan to promote not only on the domestic but also on the international market.
        ... The retail price of a fully functional product is about 150 thousand rubles. ... "
        said the commercial director of the scientific and technical center 3Logic Group Maxim Balabanov.
        He's also with humor.

        It will be pushed in forcibly, without competitions and other markets, so this desk is in chocolate. I don’t understand the import-substituted one there, if all the components are due to the hillock. By the way, Huawei is curtailing the production of phones, the TCM refused to make chips for it
    5. DIM (a)
      DIM (a) 31 August 2020 23: 50 New
      +3
      If they release it for the entire public sector, then the price will decrease, and programs will be written more cheerfully.
      And if educational institutions with their own software and tablets are introduced ... Dreams (
  2. Berber
    Berber 31 August 2020 16: 45 New
    0
    Everything is great, of course. Just the price of a car.
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 31 August 2020 18: 23 New
      -7
      Quote: BerBer
      Everything is great, of course. Just the price of a car.

      And Linux! bully
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 1 September 2020 07: 15 New
        -1
        Look at my avatar. What do you have against * nix?
    2. bk316
      bk316 31 August 2020 19: 21 New
      +5
      Just the price of a car.

      Where did you find a car for 150 K wooden?
      After all, if a fishing suit costs 100K, why can't a PC cost 150?
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 11 September 2020 13: 18 New
        0
        Quote: bk316
        Just the price of a car.

        Where did you find a car for 150 K wooden?
        After all, if a fishing suit costs 100K, why can't a PC cost 150?

        Because in market conditions it is not needed like that. It is possible to produce Cossacks and sell them at the price of a Volkswagen. Only a person will buy himself a better Volkswagen. So, for the life of me, they crammed it for 150 thousand? How can a processor using outdated technology be more expensive than the latest? the state apparently has enough money to put this wundervaflu everywhere. I wonder who owns this company?
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 31 August 2020 22: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: BerBer
      Everything is great, of course. Just the price of a car.

      Well, it seems to be said - "for civil servants," and they will not buy for their own money.
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 1 September 2020 04: 14 New
        0
        Quote: Piramidon
        Quote: BerBer
        Everything is great, of course. Just the price of a car.

        Well, it seems to be said - "for civil servants," and they will not buy for their own money.

        The DUM people could have forked out of their wages! An example would be shown to others! Dreams ...
  3. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 31 August 2020 16: 45 New
    +3
    In fact, it turns out that there is only a Russian processor there. RAM, SSD, mat. board, video card, screen matrix, the case itself is hardly import substituted.
    1. Spartanec
      Spartanec 31 August 2020 16: 50 New
      -12
      I think most likely only our corps)) this is sarcasm. until you feel it makes no sense to comment. no matter how it turns out that this is a typewriter plugged into an outlet.
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 2 September 2020 13: 10 New
        0
        Quote: Spartanec
        I think most likely only our corps)) this is sarcasm. until you feel it makes no sense to comment. no matter how it turns out that this is a typewriter plugged into an outlet.

        The case from the Chinese is 2 times cheaper. Most likely they import and mold the sticker. Although the sticker and the Chinese can stick any
    2. unaha
      unaha 31 August 2020 16: 53 New
      0
      SSD theoretically could be ours. However, the plates are imported anyway.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. bk316
        bk316 31 August 2020 19: 25 New
        +2
        However, the plates are imported anyway.

        What other platters are in an SSD?
        1. unaha
          unaha 1 September 2020 08: 48 New
          +2
          Do you think that the holy spirit keeps information? Or is it a silicon wafer chip?
          1. bk316
            bk316 1 September 2020 12: 52 New
            -1
            Or is it a silicon wafer chip?

            Why are you focusing on the plate, the memory chip is ours, the assembly is ours and the plate is not ours?
            If you are talking about GS Nanotech, the wedge did not converge on it.
            1. unaha
              unaha 1 September 2020 17: 10 New
              0
              "If you are talking about GS Nanotech" we do not know of other manufacturers.
        2. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 2 September 2020 13: 11 New
          0
          Quote: bk316
          However, the plates are imported anyway.

          What other platters are in an SSD?

          Memory microcircuits, controller. Yes, everything is 2 times more expensive for us
    3. KCA
      KCA 31 August 2020 16: 58 New
      -1
      The price includes the expertise of the FSB, for some reason it is very expensive, it simply stops any domestic developments, in order to launch something protected on sale, you need to work for a year or two after that only to recoup the costs of the expertise, at least 100500 rubles per block do it, income 0, interesting policy, buy crap with bugs, and keep ours
    4. pereselenec
      pereselenec 31 August 2020 17: 03 New
      +4
      Quote: 7,62x54
      In fact, it turns out that from the Russian there is only a processor


      Stickers are still:
      1. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 31 August 2020 17: 19 New
        +3
        laughing Forgot the stickers, yeah
      2. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 1 September 2020 08: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: pereselenec
        Quote: 7,62x54
        In fact, it turns out that from the Russian there is only a processor


        Stickers are still:

        It seems, But Father dabbled with stickers. Now he has no time laughing
    5. donavi49
      donavi49 31 August 2020 17: 05 New
      19
      The SSD was substituted for import by the way, even the video was recently - GS Nanotech.
      True, there is a Phison, Silicon Motion or ASolid controller, and Micron and Kioxia memory chips. But in general, they have already mastered a lot of processes and even mark the chips for themselves. That is, more advanced than Kingston or Adata laughing .

      The suppliers of flash memory for Russian SSDs are Micron, Kioxia (formerly Toshiba Memory) or SK Hynix, but it is purchased in the form semi-finished products - silicon wafers... Part of the processes including cutting of wafers, testing and packaging of flash memory chips GS Nanotech performs at its own facilities.

      The second basic component of SSDs are controllers, and GS Nanotech also orders these from external suppliers. Among the main partners, the company names the well-known Taiwanese trinity of Silicon Motion, Phison and ASolid.

      They also want to make their controller:
      Speaking about the SSD platforms used, one cannot but mention that in the near future GS Nanotech plans to release completely unique drives based on domestically developed controllers.


      The prices are not open, they do not plan to enter the market, they are sitting on government orders.
    6. Alex 2020
      Alex 2020 31 August 2020 17: 06 New
      +3
      The processor -BE-M1000 is produced by the Taiwanese company TSMC.
    7. _Ugene_
      _Ugene_ 31 August 2020 17: 10 New
      11
      In fact, it turns out that from the Russian there is only a processor
      depending on what you mean by the word "Russian", if the country of the manufacturer, then, as you know, Baikal is also not made here, all controllers, memory chips, etc., too, and if about who developed it, then yes, only the processor
      But here the main point is that there are no bookmarks and backdoors, neither in the hardware nor in the OS
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 31 August 2020 17: 14 New
        0
        Since Baikal is an ARM Cortex-A57, it was also "developed" rather conditionally.
        1. _Ugene_
          _Ugene_ 31 August 2020 17: 19 New
          +6
          but there are no backdoors guaranteed and this is the whole point of this venture
          1. military_cat
            military_cat 31 August 2020 17: 41 New
            -9
            And I thought to have an independent industry in a strategic industry. The issue with backdoors was adequately resolved by an audit.
            1. _Ugene_
              _Ugene_ 31 August 2020 18: 40 New
              +4
              what kind of audit if the backdoor in the processor, Intel or AMD tells everything about them, they are not done for this
            2. bk316
              bk316 31 August 2020 19: 31 New
              +4
              The issue with backdoors was adequately resolved by an audit.

              Explain your idea? What kind of audit can guarantee the absence of backdoors in the process of ANOTHER development?
              1. military_cat
                military_cat 31 August 2020 19: 42 New
                -3
                This is a pointless question. Nothing can be "guaranteed" even with such a conditionally in-house development - the backdoor can be included in the finished topology at the factory or hidden and not found in the source code or netlists of purchased IP blocks.
                1. bk316
                  bk316 31 August 2020 19: 55 New
                  +3
                  the backdoor can be included in the finished topology at the factory, or hidden and not found in the source or netlists of purchased IP blocks.

                  CHO? What kind of netlists? We're talking about processors now.
                  What do you think the sources have? How they look do not tell? Here you have shipped a batch of prots with docks (command system, interface circuits, well, as expected). The stone was not developed by YOU. Even if they gave you lithographic schemes. HOW WILL YOU LOOK FOR VULNERABILITY?
                  1. military_cat
                    military_cat 31 August 2020 20: 14 New
                    -5
                    Quote: bk316
                    What do you think the sources have? What do they look like?
                    You made me very upset with this question. Educate yourself:
                    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Язык_описания_аппаратуры
                    1. bk316
                      bk316 1 September 2020 12: 30 New
                      +1
                      Enlighten:

                      God, how everything is running. People think they can just google or read any knowledge on the wiki. A young man, I had at that time 10 years of education as a programmer, 4 semesters took a special course on the development and diagnostics of processors directly from Boris Artashesovich, and you give me an article on the wiki ...
                      Just answer the question
                      What do you think the sources have? How they look do not tell? Here you have shipped a batch of prots with docks (command system, interface circuits, well, as expected). The stone was not developed by YOU. Even if they gave you lithographic schemes. HOW WILL YOU LOOK FOR VULNERABILITY?
            3. iConst
              iConst 31 August 2020 19: 34 New
              +3
              Quote: military_cat
              The issue with backdoors was adequately resolved by an audit.

              Well, somehow, yes, with the exception of one "BUT" - to check several million lines of code (as in the "Venda", for example), the problem is still the same ...
              A special room, a stand of alon computers, access for personnel and a bunch of legal squiggles "to tell, not to show, and not even to mention ...". And taking into account the trend on "highley like" - uuuu ... winked
              1. bk316
                bk316 31 August 2020 20: 01 New
                +5
                Well, how-bae, yes,

                We are now talking about the processor ... Oh, you understand what a backdoor for a stone is, well, the most primitive ...
    8. strelokmira
      strelokmira 31 August 2020 17: 37 New
      +4
      and the verification turns out that from the Russian there is only a processor

      The only completely Russian processor Elbrus-4C, everything else is either assembled on foreign developments, or, in fact, is etched in Taiwan
    9. ivanec
      ivanec 31 August 2020 17: 57 New
      -4
      GPU "Mali" Norway
    10. Harry.km
      Harry.km 31 August 2020 18: 40 New
      +3
      Quote: 7,62x54
      In fact, it turns out that there is only a Russian processor there.

      The cores there are Cortex A-57, produced at TSMC facilities. ARM technology belongs to the British, all the rest are made under their license. AMD announced the Opteron A2014 back in 1100. Just like two drops is a twin, considering that "Baikal" was slightly cut in relation to the A-1100. Why is this old junk for big money? The Chinese phone for 8 x A-57 costs 15 thousand ... rubles.
    11. iConst
      iConst 31 August 2020 18: 58 New
      -2
      Quote: 7,62x54
      In fact, it turns out that from the Russian there is only a processor

      Well, how - on licensed cores from ARM (early Apple in co-founders), now owned by the Japanese, designed by a British company on the instructions of "our" "Baikal Electronics" (T-Platforms) is produced in Taiwan by TSMC.

      Ours or not ours? smile
    12. bk316
      bk316 31 August 2020 19: 33 New
      +3
      RAM, SSD, mat. board, video card, screen matrix, the case itself is hardly import substituted.

      Have you read the article? There is no video card - a video chip is integrated on the mother (ARM)
    13. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 31 August 2020 21: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: 7,62x54
      In fact, it turns out that there is only a Russian processor there. RAM, SSD, mat. board, video card, screen matrix, the case itself is hardly import substituted.


      The processor is also not ours.
      ARM architecture is licensed.

      Actually produced in Taiwan by TSMC.
      There is still no import substitution.
  4. Revival
    Revival 31 August 2020 16: 50 New
    +3
    Something modestly kept silent from whose components it was assembled! Although it is clear and so.
    What about the price?
    Or for government purchases, the more the warmer?
    1. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 31 August 2020 17: 02 New
      -4
      Somehow there was a story when the cadets of the scientific unit showed their know-how. As a result, it turned out to be an article from Aliexpress.
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 31 August 2020 16: 52 New
    -9
    RAM or shared memory of the device 32 GB? And our processor is only in name, but did the Chinese blinded it for our money?
    1. Well done
      Well done 31 August 2020 17: 28 New
      +6
      The processor is really ours, but created using 32 nanometer technology. This is a technology from the very beginning of the 2000s. They say that they did not have time to buy equipment for "baking" more modern stones, apparently because of the sanctions. "Baikals" are different, 2-4 cores, modestly. And for Linux, 512 KB of RAM (!) Is enough. Obviously not for games, if only "scarf" or "sapper". It's more of a security issue - Windows is a dark forest, Bill Gates is a nightmare for everyone, the whole world wants to chip laughing And Linux is simple and open as a frying pan, there are just a bunch of Russian versions of Linux. So, due to its simplicity, this operating system is often ahead of Windows, like a Kalashnikov assault rifle - simple, unprepossessing, but reliable and technologically advanced.
      1. Well done
        Well done 31 August 2020 17: 52 New
        -1
        Now I google - "Baikals" are massively riveted in Taiwan.
        As reported in December 2015, the start of industrial production of the processor is scheduled for the first quarter of 2016, possibly the number of microcircuits produced will reach 100 thousand. The processor will cost $ 60 in batches of 100 or more. Wikipedia

        Quite an old processor, I hope our Kulibins will come up with something newer.
  6. Buffet
    Buffet 31 August 2020 16: 52 New
    +2
    Well, fish without fish and cancer. Of course, you can't compete with global manufacturers in terms of production volumes and functionality. Therefore, I would like to see fundamentally new solutions and not a repetition of technologies.
  7. Alex 2020
    Alex 2020 31 August 2020 17: 00 New
    +2
    Well, like ours ... ARM Mali-T628 MP6 is a graphics solution from Samsung, integrated with Exynos 5420 Octa SoC into tablets and smartphones, which appeared in the fall of 2013. Mali-T628 can have from one to eight cores. The BE-M1000 processor is a system on a chip for workstations, servers and industrial systems. It is manufactured using the 28 nm process technology, consists of eight ARM Cortex-A57 cores and eight Mali-T628 cores. BE-M1000 is produced by the Taiwanese company TSMC. And the rest of the same field is a berry (I think so, wah winked ).
    1. iConst
      iConst 31 August 2020 19: 12 New
      0
      Quote: Alexey 2020
      ARM Mali-T628 MP6 is a graphics solution from Samsung

      Actually Mali is a graphics solution from the Norwegian arm of ARM (formerly Falanx). Samsun licenses it in the same way.
      1. bk316
        bk316 31 August 2020 19: 39 New
        +2
        In fact, Mali is a graphics solution from the Norwegian arm of ARM (

        You know how to google, but you don't understand the topic: learn what different types of ARM licenses are.
        So the phrase "ARM Mali-T628 MP6 is a graphics solution from Samsung" is absolutely correct not to find fault.
        However, like the phrase "Baikal BE-M1000 - Russian processor", and he is also ARM belay
        1. iConst
          iConst 31 August 2020 20: 00 New
          -3
          Quote: bk316
          So the phrase "ARM Mali-T628 MP6 is a graphics solution from Samsung" is absolutely correct not to find fault.
          Well, it seems that you do not understand the wording - a graphics solution from Samsung based on ARM Mali-T628 would be correct - so, no need ... Otherwise, it turns out that Mali-T628 is Samson's development. This is not the case. smile
          Quote: bk316
          you do not understand the topic: learn what different types of ARM licenses are.
          Wow - what pathos! Yes, here's another - why am I scared to understand this? What are you doing with masturbation? And do not care what license - kernels or themselves finished.
          Judging by the presence of the full name - they practically did not finish, otherwise, most likely they would have named it in their own way.
          1. bk316
            bk316 1 September 2020 12: 44 New
            +1
            Yes, here's another - why am I scared to understand this?

            If a person writes or speaks about something, he should understand it, at least at a basic level,
            otherwise he is an irresponsible balabol and the price of any of his words is 0. - This is not pathos. This is my position.
            On this topic, this means you need to have a specialized education and it is desirable to work in the industry, but you don't need that? Well, continue balaboling and enjoying your picture of the world where everything is built on memes like "Soviet microcircuits are the largest microcircuits in the world."
            It is very interesting to meet with such individuals in real life, because the matter is usually not limited to processors, such "know and can do everything" laughing
  8. Free wind
    Free wind 31 August 2020 17: 01 New
    +1
    Some solutions are strange, the headphone and microphone jacks are far apart, many use headphones with a microphone, and the plugs are close there. Power supply option unexpected solution. The Linux operating system is like a foreign thing. Monoblocks are good, of course, but in the event of a cataclysm, let's say you hit the screen with something, you have to throw out all this charm.
    1. bk316
      bk316 31 August 2020 19: 42 New
      +4
      The Linux operating system is like a foreign thing.

      Like a computer in general, maybe well they nafig laughing
  9. Revival
    Revival 31 August 2020 17: 06 New
    -5
    After reading the comments, as I understand it, zilch ...
    For that, it is very characteristic and usual
  10. sergo1914
    sergo1914 31 August 2020 17: 31 New
    -6
    Why are the Astra Linux Group of Companies and the Science and Technology Center 3Logic Group showing, and am I ashamed?
    1. purple
      purple 31 August 2020 17: 59 New
      +5
      Quote: sergo1914
      Why are the Astra Linux Group of Companies and the Science and Technology Center 3Logic Group showing, and am I ashamed?

      This is a question for you, normal people are not ashamed. At least do something
  11. strelokmira
    strelokmira 31 August 2020 17: 35 New
    -4
    What is there to discuss, it is enough to read about the state of our electronics industry at the moment to understand how much this monoblock is Russian
  12. Freedim
    Freedim 31 August 2020 17: 39 New
    10
    With an initiative ... And the fact that under-import substitution is so important to start. The Chinese, too, did not invent microelectronics themselves. They slammed, sorted it out, copied the technical process, adapted it for themselves, created the infrastructure and churned out replicas for the whole world ... Well, the goblin is with him, that with quality you can't understand what .. sooner or later they will finish. It's stupid not to do anything ourselves and buy from neighbors .. It's like love in an elastic band: there is movement - there is no progress. (c) DMB
  13. Fibrizio
    Fibrizio 31 August 2020 17: 51 New
    -3
    And after the purchase, it turns out that all sorts of MFPs and printers that are 20 years old and which have not produced firewood since the days of Windows XP are not supported by Linux, because there is no firewood on them. And there is a sea of ​​such rare equipment. And why change everything? Go broke. It is also unclear what will happen to all sorts of SEDO, MEDO and similar programs into which the state bodies have injected millions. It is unclear what will happen to the information porting.
    I worked in government agencies, where they disown such devices like the devil from incense. Tk the system administrator to organize work on the new system will be hell. And what to do with a server, it works for example (we had it) on antediluvian server Windows. What to run it on?
    It all sounds simple, but when you start making a working architecture, the jambs will come out. Especially with firewood and compatibility.
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 31 August 2020 17: 53 New
    -1
    Heavy topic, I don't want to discuss sales.
    if you list, without which in this area, we will not have development, the list will be long !!! Although, it is possible and briefly - in the current system, development is simply not provided, in fact of everything that is happening in the country!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 August 2020 18: 20 New
      +1
      And in what area we will not have development - there will be no microprocessors for a citizen of mass-market household rubbish and there will be no production since this requires 20 billion dollars due to the lack of a free market both within the country and abroad, the payback of such production will be zero, only to develop everything for the military in this direction, there is a constant demand and there are no competitors.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 31 August 2020 20: 33 New
        -2
        It will, it will not be ... there is a need, work in this direction, serious, is not visible.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 1 September 2020 00: 01 New
          +1
          140 billion rubles will be allocated for the development of microelectronics, it is necessary to create something new, preferably revolutionary, like photonic microcircuits of quantum computers, neural network computers and AI, which, in principle, is now being done in Russia
          1. pmkemcity
            pmkemcity 1 September 2020 05: 35 New
            -2
            Quote: Vadim237
            create something new, preferably revolutionary, like photonic microcircuits, quantum computers, neural network computers and AI

            We forgot to mention the blasters ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 1 September 2020 06: 40 New
              0
              That's right, blasters seem to be hoping for!
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 1 September 2020 15: 04 New
              -1
              Why do you need blasters?
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 1 September 2020 15: 12 New
                0
                Where without him. Not in the forest, not for firewood.
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 1 September 2020 06: 39 New
            -2
            Quote: Vadim237
            140 billion rubles will be allocated for the development of microelectronics

            How familiar it all is !!!
            Let’s turn the rivers back, let’s turn the planet over, and let’s fly to the sun!?!?!?
            Only before there was a BASE, even for these bad projects / decisions! In the USSR, nothing was allowed to flow!
            Now, there are plans, it seems, and there is a deny, as it were, they have allocated! Do you think a decent result will be ???
            I really doubt, I'm not the only one, that the case will be ... not criminal, of course!
            Business will not work, because high-quality PREPARATION is not even half the battle, but ..... in general, it is clear. We will have to start at school and further down the list ... calmly, systematically, SYSTEMICALLY! Yes, still such a simple, unpretentious, STAFF SOLVES EVERYTHING ... almost everything!
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 1 September 2020 15: 06 New
              0
              Let's just stop whining.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 1 September 2020 15: 10 New
                0
                Well, yes ... one country is already "not about whining", now let's get what's left "not about noy" and everything will be tick-tock, probably.
                Fresh giving, but the result is somehow sour.
    2. Husit
      Husit 31 August 2020 18: 45 New
      -1
      Quote: rocket757
      Heavy topic, I don't want to discuss sales.
      if you list, without which in this area, we will not have development, the list will be long !!! Although, it is possible and briefly - in the current system, development is simply not provided, in fact of everything that is happening in the country!

      It's a tough topic, I agree, but we'll have to do it differently and then we'll regret it .. The main thing is not to let Chubais into this business otherwise the money will go into a black hole under his sly smile ..
      Our new prime minister, by the way, is well versed in computer science and is unlikely to drive money into bullshit. It's time to end these Windos There are already such incomprehensible requests and exchanges .. I think his initiative! This is already the country's security at stake hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 31 August 2020 20: 41 New
        +1
        How can we wish! This is a complex business, time consuming and resource consuming. From the bay, floundering will not work, it was necessary to start ... from the school bench! After all, you won't be able to just buy everything you need, NOT IN OUR CASE!
        And the sales market, about which they like to talk so much, WILL BE! If we work for the future, and do not follow the leaders in the tail!
        1. Husit
          Husit 31 August 2020 21: 09 New
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          And the sales market, about which they like to talk so much, WILL BE! If we work for the future, and do not follow the leaders in the tail!

          That's right, Victor! ..The lobby is very strong in the West .. And something domestic is not allowed if it competes with the West ...
          I understand a little about this and the horror of what is going on ... Mishustin fumbles in this business and thinks he will sell domestic, albeit not very best, but our sysadmins and proggers will set everything up, even with mats and tambourines, but they will do it as expected .. hi
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 31 August 2020 21: 26 New
            +1
            I served, then worked in the electronics industry, until it collapsed, now also in the IT sphere ... I remember how it was then and I see what it is now.
            The replacement of equipment, hardware and software is taking place at a cosmic speed !!! There will always be a place for OUR equipment and technologies, if it is up to par! And if a little ahead, so it will go with a whistle ...
            BUT, it was necessary to start from school and it should have been done the day before yesterday, because it itself will not work!
            So, the question is about State policy in this extremely important area ... business, here, will not solve anything.
            A good example, China! Prut will continue to develop, in many ways ahead of everyone.
        2. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 31 August 2020 22: 11 New
          +1
          Quote: rocket757

          And the sales market, about which they like to talk so much, WILL BE! If we work for the future, and do not follow the leaders in the tail!


          To work for the future, you must have a modern infrastructure, starting with the simplest home computer. So that a kid who is smart enough can develop on the most modern technology since childhood ..
          And so on increasing.
          He should always be on the crest of the latest wave.
          And there must be hundreds of thousands of such guys in order for a thousand to enter institutes, where the teachers must be exactly the same, on the crest of the most modern technology.
          And only then, after a few years, it will be possible to find about five modern specialists.

          Which, in turn, should have specific tasks.
          Which must be in demand and competitive.

          Only in this case, maybe half will have an understanding of what perspective is in what he does ...

          Now this is unrealistic.
          All smart guys in IT are really caught in their first courses and are offered work in Western companies, even during training. Without waiting...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 31 August 2020 22: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: SovAr238A
            It's unreal now

            It is always real when in the state structures of management, development, control, STATE HUSBANDS WORK, and not any, different .... one-day managers.
  15. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 31 August 2020 17: 54 New
    -12
    Bad name for the processor. Lake Baikal has been feeling bad in recent years. It was necessary to name the processor Bogatyr, and the operating system Rus. And be sure to consecrate with holy water
  16. Husit
    Husit 31 August 2020 17: 57 New
    -1
    Now all will be vulgarized by the scavengers ..! But the caravan is still going ..
    1. iouris
      iouris 31 August 2020 18: 04 New
      -1
      Quote: Husit
      But the caravan is still going ..

      "Tell me, caravaneer, when will the water-ah ...?"
      1. Husit
        Husit 31 August 2020 18: 26 New
        0
        Quote: iouris
        Quote: Husit
        But the caravan is still going ..

        "Tell me, caravaneer, when will the water-ah ...?"

        Uchkuduk, three wells ... good
        P / S / By the way, there were uranium mines on Uchkuduk and the KGB tried not to broadcast this song (secrecy) But about the three wells of the ancients, it's true!
  17. purple
    purple 31 August 2020 18: 00 New
    +9
    Quote: Free Wind
    The Linux operating system is like a foreign thing.

    Thank you ... neighing heartily laughing laughing
  18. purple
    purple 31 August 2020 18: 02 New
    +8
    Quote: Fibrizio
    And after the purchase, it turns out that all sorts of MFPs and printers that are 20 years old and which have not produced firewood since the days of Windows XP are not supported by Linux, because there is no firewood on them.

    See the dilettante at once laughing
    1. zwlad
      zwlad 31 August 2020 20: 41 New
      0
      And what exactly is he wrong about? Or is the entire periphery the freshest in government agencies? Or will the system administrator write drivers? Out of duty?
    2. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 31 August 2020 22: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: purple
      Quote: Fibrizio
      And after the purchase, it turns out that all sorts of MFPs and printers that are 20 years old and which have not produced firewood since the days of Windows XP are not supported by Linux, because there is no firewood on them.

      See the dilettante at once laughing

      And he wrote the truth ...
      How often did you supply equipment to government agencies?
      Not, of course, if you completely change all ministries In government contracts, and then, a couple of years later, we read about corrupt plantings for a government contract for the supply of equipment and punitive collusion, then it's easier for you ...
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 1 September 2020 07: 29 New
        0
        Quote: SovAr238A
        How often did you supply equipment to government agencies?

        In the case of import substitution, everything is much simpler. In Russia, there are not so many manufactures capable of supplying, for example, item No. 123.4.5 for the Su-57 or T-14, and the issue of corruption disappears by itself.
  19. purple
    purple 31 August 2020 18: 03 New
    +5
    Quote: Fibrizio
    Tk the system administrator to organize work on the new system will be hell. And what to do with a server, it works for example (we had it) on antediluvian server Windows. What to run it on?

    well depends on the sysadmin, the normal will do everything, and will not whine
    1. Husit
      Husit 31 August 2020 18: 28 New
      0
      Quote: purple
      well depends on the sysadmin, the normal will do everything, and will not whine

      I agree, with a tambourine, but he will, the main thing is not to interfere .. This is a matter of principle! hi
    2. zwlad
      zwlad 31 August 2020 20: 42 New
      -2
      The normal one will say go to the center and leave for another place. Fortunately, there is a demand for literate people.
      1. Husit
        Husit 31 August 2020 21: 17 New
        -3
        Quote: zwlad
        The normal one will say go to the center and leave for another place. Fortunately, there is a demand for literate people.

        And the abnormal (which in Russia there is with soul and principles) will do everything and for free .. I’m one of those and there are many in Russia there are still such .. In Moscow, of course.
        By the way, the military-industrial complex of Russia is kept at the level of the "abnormal" educators of the USSR!
        And your normal and exceptional nothing can oppose us with a trillion-dollar military and scientific budget .. Understandably "smart guy" Get out of Russia! And do not fig whine here whining ..
        1. zwlad
          zwlad 31 August 2020 22: 57 New
          -1
          About how!
          Why would I blame it?
          And yes. Who am I screaming at?
          I just expressed my point of view. Nobody needs a bare axle. It must be supplemented. Soft, drivers. And not as we usually do. Here's the iron for you to work tomorrow. And where you will find all the software and firewood for the authorities violet. And so that it works as before in Windows. It's so used to it.
          By the way, the minus is not mine.
  20. usr01
    usr01 31 August 2020 18: 39 New
    -4
    Astr'u I drove .... (true for "civilian" and school use) - a wretched sight recourse
    In terms of the kernel and software, it seems that everything is the same ... So it will not be mastered ...
  21. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 31 August 2020 19: 09 New
    0
    Baikal is built on a licensed ARM core, RAM from Micron. OS is the Linux kernel.
    Well, that's better than nothing.
    1. bk316
      bk316 31 August 2020 19: 45 New
      +3
      RAM from Micron.

      Oh is it? And what's the difference from whom there is dim, do you know when buying a MacBook?

      And about the AWP ...
      Samsung is it whose Korean?
      And whose xiaomi are Chinese?
      How is it that there is the same ARM license?
      1. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 31 August 2020 19: 48 New
        -3
        Oh is it? And what's the difference from whom there is dim

        Great when it is stated that the monoblock is Russian, and there is nothing Russian.
        Do you know when you buy a MacBook?

        Hynix
        But you can expand it even with Samsung.
        1. bk316
          bk316 31 August 2020 20: 04 New
          +2
          Great when it is stated that the monoblock is Russian, and there is nothing Russian.

          There the processor and, accordingly, the chipset is Russian.
          I repeat, you do not say that the Samsung is Japanese and the Apple is Chinese? Religion does not allow?
          1. Jack O'Neill
            Jack O'Neill 31 August 2020 20: 12 New
            0
            There the processor and, accordingly, the chipset is Russian.

            Ours there is only a license to use the Cortex-A57. The core itself is not Russian, but a percentage is produced at TSMC capacities, since we cannot work in 32nm, only in 65nm.
            I repeat, you do not say that the Samsung is Japanese and the Apple is Chinese? Religion does not allow?

            Apple uses ARM kernels as well as Samsung.
            1. bk316
              bk316 1 September 2020 12: 34 New
              0
              Ours there is only a license to use the Cortex-A57.

              Do you understand the difference between a core license and a processor lithography kit?
              Do you think AWP issues kernel lyography?
              1. Jack O'Neill
                Jack O'Neill 1 September 2020 19: 09 New
                0
                Do you understand the difference between a core license and a processor lithography kit?
                Do you think AWP issues kernel lyography?

                And what is the license for the air? The license entitles the office (which acquired the license) to produce and generally do anything specifically with this kernel.
  22. keeper03
    keeper03 31 August 2020 19: 50 New
    0
    Well, will we soon cut off the oxygen for Gates ?! wassat soldier
  23. APASUS
    APASUS 31 August 2020 19: 54 New
    -4
    Processor - Baikal BE-M1000,

    Something that gave me nothing at all, where is the clock purity of this miracle of technology?
    1. Jack O'Neill
      Jack O'Neill 31 August 2020 20: 01 New
      +3
      Something that gave me nothing at all, where is the clock purity of this miracle of technology?

      1. APASUS
        APASUS 31 August 2020 20: 02 New
        -2
        Thank ! So there is nothing special, an ordinary device
        1. Jack O'Neill
          Jack O'Neill 31 August 2020 20: 04 New
          +2
          Thank ! So there is nothing special, an ordinary device

          Most have more powerful smartphones.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 31 August 2020 20: 20 New
            -2
            Quote: Jack O'Neill
            Most have more powerful smartphones.

            As far as I understand, the value of this device lies only in the fact that it is produced in Russia, although the Baikal processor itself is produced in my Taiwan.
            1. Jack O'Neill
              Jack O'Neill 31 August 2020 20: 56 New
              +2
              As far as I understand, the value of this device lies only in the fact that it is produced in Russia, although the Baikal processor itself is produced in my Taiwan.

              In Taiwan, it is produced, like the top Elbrus.
            2. AML
              AML 31 August 2020 22: 50 New
              -1
              Quote: APASUS
              Quote: Jack O'Neill
              Most have more powerful smartphones.

              As far as I understand, the value of this device lies only in the fact that it is produced in Russia, although the Baikal processor itself is produced in my Taiwan.

              Ahh, ifon is assembled in china. Don't disgrace yourself with this cheap thing. Yes, if anything on iPhones, Russian glasses. Something like this.
    2. bk316
      bk316 1 September 2020 12: 36 New
      +1
      where clock hиHow much is this miracle of technology?

      Thank you cheer up.
  24. zwlad
    zwlad 31 August 2020 20: 50 New
    0
    Even if it is not all ours, the process is going on. And it is right!
  25. Kaw
    Kaw 31 August 2020 21: 04 New
    +1
    About Baikal processors
  26. Maratus
    Maratus 31 August 2020 21: 12 New
    0
    funny, I remember that 1000 pieces were delivered, but I didn't know what was in the RF Ministry of Defense
    3LODGIC employee
  27. opuonmed
    opuonmed 31 August 2020 22: 40 New
    -1
    Arm percent mobile) A57 cores with a frequency of up to 1.5 bought in the west and redone)
  28. AML
    AML 31 August 2020 22: 47 New
    +2
    Quote: Victor Tsenin
    Is there no software for Linux?)

    The problem is not that there is no software. The problem is to iterate over the source code in the presence of bookmarks. The Germans used to be dung with Suse too
  29. AML
    AML 31 August 2020 22: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    Something that gave me nothing at all, where is the clock purity of this miracle of technology?


    And what will the clock speed tell you? In the not too distant time, when the Intels went beyond a gigahertz, the powerPC was running at 250MHz and hardly anyone could call it braking.
  30. balabol
    balabol 31 August 2020 23: 36 New
    +5
    A couple of comments on the equipment presented.
    1. The cost of 150 thousand (including software and certification for use in the Ministry of Defense) is not great. At the moment, in order to get a certified AWP out of an average car, you need to do a lot, which will increase the price by 2-3 times.
    2. If you use the specified equipment to process even chipboard information (otherwise why fence a garden - civilian equipment will cope with the usual tasks), you need to remove the network port from RJ 45 and immediately install optical network ports.
    3. I would like to see who will be allowed to climb into the MO network with their flash drive. Remove USB ports. Leave 1 pc.
    4. The access system - card readers - should not be connected to USB ports, but put into the case.
    5. Shield the housing. All devices under the screen.
    6. In general, it is correct to put your tested and maximally simplified processor into the AWS (they have the highest probability of bookmarks). Oak software with a minimum of functions, tested to the last bit, is also the right step.
    7. For now, this is a layout showing the capabilities of the equipment. If MO decides to use this in any system, special people will tell the developers what needs to be fixed.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 1 September 2020 00: 06 New
      0
      MO already has rugged laptops.
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 1 September 2020 07: 41 New
        0
        If anything, a field computer is one thing, but in any basement under the signboard "Smartphone Repair" there may be a secret production or research institutes that also work on contracts with the Ministry of Defense. It is for them that it is intended not to feed any CIA with free bytes.
  31. JD1979
    JD1979 1 September 2020 07: 40 New
    0
    Options: card reader, smart card reader, optical drive, uninterruptible power supply, I / O port protection cover, power supply unit.

    What a twist)). It's like in a car, a fuel tank is optional)).
  32. Mimino
    Mimino 1 September 2020 07: 55 New
    -2
    I have vague doubts. I am sure that for the cost of this miracle, you can buy a dozen ordinary machines on AMD and Intel. This is what I mean. All of these disposable items that do not go into mass production will be fabulously expensive. Enough already showing, it's time to do.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 1 September 2020 08: 36 New
      +2
      it will always be more expensive than any product in China, then it can not do it at home but buy everything?
  33. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 1 September 2020 08: 35 New
    0
    STALKER 2 will go on it?
  34. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 1 September 2020 09: 10 New
    0
    With modern weapons, machine tools, power plants ... there is no choice but to ask about the price. Now every piece of iron with a motor has a connection with Net and receives updates, is diagnosed and can be blocked at any time. Meat grinders (at meat processing plants) are blocked for late lease payments.
    1. UltraRed
      UltraRed 1 September 2020 09: 57 New
      +2
      1. Drivers for Linux for ancient peripherals are much easier to find than for Windows 10 (as a rule, there are none at all ... :)).
      2. If the administrator knows only Windows, - f-furnace of such an administrator.
      3. All sorts of "special programs" for "special iron", as a rule, are written for XP, they are quite simple and work great under wine (Quite personal experience ..... :)).
      4. If "Baikal - M" is not Russian, then why are all other processors based on ARM architecture considered national? Samsung - Korean, Apple - American, Huawei - Chinese ......?
      5. In "Baikal-M", by the way, there are many features that distinguish it from similar ARM stones for single-board solutions.
      6. Alt Linux has the 5th repository in the world in terms of the number of packages (programs ..... :)).
      7. The PRC is transferring the entire public sector to the ARM architecture (percent of Kung Fung from Huawei).
      .
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 1 September 2020 10: 03 New
        +1
        From the position of the PRC, this should be done yesterday. And the production of iron is everything and the sale within the country is enormous. They just don't have their own processors and OS. Than they are hammered now. In Baikal, the architecture is not an ARM ... its own. Moreover, the Americans recognize it as Russian.
      2. bk316
        bk316 1 September 2020 17: 53 New
        -1
        They wrote everything correctly. People simply do not understand what an ARM license is and, moreover, what a processor architecture is. Well, most of those commenting here generally have a very distant idea about processors.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 1 September 2020 15: 08 New
      -1
      In the contracts, all these disconnections on the remote control are spelled out.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 1 September 2020 15: 23 New
        0
        I am writing ... for late payment. And if this is a 5-coordinate machine in the defense industry and suddenly there were US sanctions? Will this treaty help much?