"This is an extremely effective poison": the Czech press comments on the situation with Navalny

The European media continue to attempt to whip up hysteria around the state of health of Russian "oppositionist" Alexei Navalny. Recall that after being hospitalized in the Omsk clinic, Navalny was transferred to the German clinic "Charite" by special board. Now, in some Euro-media, the topic related to his alleged poisoning is being actively promoted.

The Czech edition of Aktualne published an article in which the columnist Kateřina Vitkova writes about the "extremely effective poison" with which the Russian oppositionist was allegedly poisoned. This statement was made in the publication with reference to the professor of toxicology at the Faculty of Health and Social Sciences of the University of South Bohemia (Ceske Budejovice) Jiri Patočka.

Patochka states that "an extremely strong poison" caused a sharp rise in temperature and seizures.

Czech professor:

German specialists can only hope that the patient will come out of the coma and recover.

Statements of this kind are particularly noteworthy. And first of all, the question arises: what kind of strange "extremely effective poison" is, if after its hypothetical use a person, firstly, remained alive, and secondly, his state of health before being sent to Germany stabilized and began to improve?

The Czech professor bases his statements on the words coming from Berlin. They announced that Navalny, "probably", had been poisoned with a substance from the group of cholinesterase inhibitors. Basically, we are talking about a substance that can be rat poison. It is used in agriculture to control rodents.

Additionally, it is stated that this group of poisons includes "chemical warfare agents, including" Novichok ".

From the article:

These substances can even be used for a terrorist attack. There have been several cases in the past when it could be said that a person was poisoned with this type of poison. Recently, for example, Sergei Skripal with his daughter - it was "Novichok".

As one would expect, this topic will now be promoted in Europe.

Comments

[Ka-52]

Recall that after being hospitalized in the Omsk clinic, Navalny was transferred to the German clinic "Charite" by special board.

to see "being treated abroad" the opposition loves no less than those whom it criticizes special board, German clinic ... where are the firewood from, I wonder?

[Mini Mokik]

You don’t understand - this is completely different!

[Baloo]

Quote: Mini Mokik

You don’t understand - this is completely different!

We all understand correctly. The Czechs have made a new poison "Old Man" and ortravili navralny. Now gloat. Rascals!
As for the Skripals, I would venture to suggest that they were injected with drugs through their clothes, hence the coma from peridosis.

[Mini Mokik]

Like bee sarcasm

[Olgovich]

Quote: Ka-52

.. where the firewood comes from, I wonder?

From the hosts: for Merkelikha, he is an honored guest.

And the discovered poison, indeed, is insidious: ALCOHOL found in the blood in Omsk, in combination with, practical, any, even harmless drugs (with any inhibitors, even a proton pump) is unpredictable in its effect on the body

[KAV]

These substances can even be used for a terrorist attack. There have been several cases in the past when it could be said that a person was poisoned poison of this type.

These are extremely serious statements of a person who professionally deals with toxicology! Bravo! The main thing is to throw more on the fan, and then it will spread itself.
They themselves mixed something in it, they themselves fanned the scandal, and then they themselves will beat it down to enhance the effect!
Or they will "hide" like the Skripals, and the ends are in the water. In the case of them, at least, they tried to come up with the name of the OV. And here they are in such a hurry that they did not even have time to compose something.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: KAV

Or they will "hide" like the Skripals, and the ends are in the water.

Yes, it would be better to hide it, but forever.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

Yes, it would be better to hide it, but forever.

And deeper

[Tonpengof]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: tihonmarine

Yes, it would be better to hide it, but forever.

And deeper

2 meters.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

And deeper

And further away.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: KAV

Or they will "hide" like the Skripals, and the ends are in the water.

Yes, it would be better to hide it, but forever.

For our bureaucrats mired in theft, undoubtedly

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Vol4ara

For our bureaucrats mired in theft, undoubtedly

Although I am not a bureaucrat, he is unpleasant to me.

[YOUR]

"This is an extremely effective poison": the Czech press comments on the situation with Navalny

It is extremely effective when yum and into the next world, but they cannot find traces. Or yum walks for a week, suddenly the heart stopped. Moreover, the symptoms indicate natural death.
What we have now is very, very unclear. Our special services must be absolutely stupid to be so substituted, which by definition cannot be. There are no fools in the special services, neither here nor there. But on the contrary, to substitute in order to get hold of "legal" grounds for new sanctions, i.e. special operation on the other hand. very much even maybe. Everything is somehow in plain sight, as if it is not necessary to look for the one who did it. Moreover, what happened in the Russian outback.

[figwam]

Quote: Olgovich

insidious: ALCOHOL found in the blood in Omsk, combined with, practical, any, even harmless drugs

Do not bother the professor, he found an extremely strong poison)))

[41 REGION]

Quote: figvam

Do not bother the professor, he found an extremely strong poison)))

Not only found, but also used

[venik]

Quote: 41 REGION

Not only found, but also used wink

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Sorry! Not having read up to your comment, I got in with my 5 kopecks .... It turned out - we think equally!

[venik]

Quote: figvam

Do not bother the professor, he found an extremely strong poison)))

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And I tried it on myself! .... And I got a buzz !!! Now he shares his impressions ...

[New Year day]

Quote: Olgovich

ALCOHOL found in blood in Omsk, in combination with, practical, any, even harmless drugs (with any inhibitors, even a proton pump) -

Clinical pharmacologist?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Silvestr

Clinical pharmacologist?

No, probably from my own experience.

[Slon_on]

An old joke in a new way:
doctor:
Bulk!
Navalny: Yyy!
Doctor: No blood was found in your port!
Navalny: Yyy!

[Mwg]

ALCOHOL is not as bad as its SURROGATES

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Patochka states that "an extremely strong poison" caused a sharp rise in temperature and seizures.

To be honest, I don’t know laugh or cry!
I will not be surprised that tomorrow the public will be disturbed by the news that Chechens with an ice pick were seen near the border with Germany !!!

As a pragmatist, I sincerely believe that if we wanted to, we did it! And so that Kamar does not undermine his nose, and then "babble" !!!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Kote pane Kohanka

As a pragmatist, I sincerely believe that if we wanted to, we did it! And so that Kamar does not undermine his nose, and then "babble" !!!

Well, really in the West they still do not understand that the times of the "Cursed Kings", according to Druon, have long gone into oblivion, and who will now poison with the methods of 400 years ago. Well, just like children.

[Deck]

I reread the Gospel. And you know, questions arise. Could it be that Jesus crucified himself for publicity? Was it a crucifixion at all, maybe he climbed onto the pole and ran into nails? What if Jesus was crucified by his own apostles to destabilize the Judean Autonomous Region? It was not for nothing that they immediately began to make a martyr of him. In general, the crucifixion of Jesus strongly resembles a foreign provocation of rimophobes, the allies of the former Carthage - against Rome, against the great Tiberius Caesar Augustus, proclaimed emperor eight times, and his viceroy Pontius Pilate. In any case, it was not profitable for the Roman occupation government of Ancient Judea to crucify Jesus. Who cares about him at all, twelve people from all over the country listened to his sermons. Yes, if they wanted to crucify him, they would have been crucified long ago. Rather, Yesha himself was a project of Roman authority. I think we will never know the truth. Another thing is surprising: why has no one still said thanks to those Roman legionnaires who worked for almost two days, not leaving him a single step, until the authorities finally allowed the body to be handed over to friends and relatives, and rich Joseph from Arimathea paid for the transportation?

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Kote pane Kohanka

As a pragmatist, I sincerely believe that if we wanted to, we did it! And so that Kamar does not undermine his nose, and then "babble" !!!

That's right ...

[New Year day]

Quote: Kote pane Kohanka

As a pragmatist, I sincerely believe that if we wanted to, we did it! And so that Kamar does not undermine his nose, and then "babble" !!!

Is everything we have perfect in this matter?

[lucul]

to see "being treated abroad" the opposition loves no less than those whom it criticizes laughing special board, a German clinic ... where are the firewood from, I wonder?

Yes, Navalny's campaign has worked out his own, exhausted, now his curators are preparing for a sacred sacrifice ...
Opps have an unenviable fate ...

[vic02]

Campaign you wishful thinking.

Opps have an unenviable fate

yes it is always so in a country where all the power and all the money belongs to one group, and all the actions of this group are unpunished.

[lucul]

Campaign you wishful thinking.

You can't be a little pregnant, so here too - either they were trashed or not.

[vic02]

I don't mean that. Navalny is gaining popularity right now. Party Edro, which lost a third of its seats in the Moscow City Duma, will confirm to you. Khabarovsk, by the way, too.

[lucul]

I don't mean that. Navalny is gaining popularity right now.

I beg of you )))

[vic02]

This is not an argument.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: vic02

Navalny is gaining popularity right now. Party Edro, which lost a third of its seats in the Moscow City Duma, will confirm to you. Khabarovsk, by the way, too.

but this is your argument? could not be trifling and write "all Russia is worried about Navalny!"

[vic02]

This is just an argument, unlike your empty set of words. And the defense in court of families where children were poisoned in school canteens because of the supply of rotten food by the company of Putin's friend Prigozhin is also an argument. And Putin's friends do not roll out 88 million lawsuits against published politicians for undermining their reputation - this is also an argument. And two million subscribers and millions of investigative views, too. Navalny is now quite a successful politician and his elimination is a direct interest of the Kremlin

[Sanichsan]

Quote: vic02

Navalny is now quite a successful politician and his elimination is a direct interest of the Kremlin

this is especially funny do you really believe in there, in a frenzy?

[vic02]

Another set of empty words.

[sleeve]

Followers as an indicator of success? We then Buzov pulls the president. He (Navalny) is watched as a TV series. Have fun. And the reality is in the election results. There is his rating. Besides, where the brains are weaker tense (Moscow, St. Petersburg) there he is more popular. This is an axiom.
It seems to me that Leshik was lucky because of the not particularly educated "assistants" and "curators". He had to die. And they hounded in Siberia on the basis of the stereotype that there all the medicine is represented by drunken paramedics on creaky carts. It is not an "official" Western project, although there professional special services sometimes start to surprise. Here are the "creatives" and offered an option to die in agony. And then the supermen from Omsk pumped out. It is necessary to pick it up urgently, otherwise he will not die or come to himself, understand what is the matter and balked at the "altar of justice" to go.

[vic02]

A feeble attempt. You didn't even bother to check if you are posting the truth right now. Buzova's rating on YouTube is lower than Navalny by more than half a million. But the point is not even that, but that you do not see and do not understand the difference between politics, government and ordinary entertainment. Navalny is a political channel and behind him are real results - Edra's losses in the elections, courts won in defense of ordinary people, not oligarchs. As for the election results, as soon as the possibility of falsification decreases, as was shown in Moscow, Khabarovsk, Vladivostok and Khakassia, then Putin's candidates are out of work. And what the policy of falsifying election results and the presence of an organizing center can lead to, we now well see on the example of Belarus. The rest that you have printed is your fantasies and conjectures.

[sleeve]

I'm sorry "did not take weight" and I do not consider this an attempt to opus. Not for Navalny's losses to the EP (and whether there were any losses). Putin's candidates? And who is this, excuse me? The candidate has a program and a platform. The rest is hype. As soon as people stop playing, they are replaced by more real faces with realistic image components. Navalny wants to "resist" and no more, since this project is not prepared for another. Well, on health, let "resist". Investigations are really so-so, more like whispering on a bench. Plus and his "candidate resource" does not meet the aspirations of the conservative majority. I comment, expressing the opinion of the layman and do not consider it necessary to polemize here for every detail. The content of the post was about something else "did not deliver miscalculated". And everyone sees his own political situation in the country. That's why it is a free society.

[sleeve]

... not before being bullied. Sorry my editor.

[sleeve]

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. You, as I understand it, do not use fantasies or speculations? Pure, unclouded facts. Well, what is the difference in subscribers between Buzova and Navalny? A specific evidence base (about reducing the possibility of falsification) with appropriate conclusions (caused by the general defeat of the conservative centrists of United Russia and, as a consequence, the defeat of Putin as a politician)? Do I perceive everything correctly in your context?

[vic02]

It seems that you are from the moon. Yes, the main culprit of Edra's losses is certainly not Navalny, but Putin's policy. Robbery of the people by raising the retirement age, VAT, etc. and at the same time new billions coming from out of nowhere from ministers and heads of state corporations, etc. Program and platform for Putin's candidates? Do not make me laugh. They have one platform - take away and divide, starting from the budget. Navalny shows everyone with the facts the negative that officials are trying to hide and the absolute stupidity to argue that this does not affect the way people vote. Specifically in Moscow, where Navalny's supporters were working within the framework of their "smart voting" tactics, the result is obvious.
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In Vladivostok and Khabarovsk, the central authorities also had limited administrative resources, as a result, in Vladivostok, the flight of Putin's Tarasenko, the hysteria of the Central Election Commission, the absolutely unconstitutional cancellation of the results with a change in the fire regime of the regional legislation with the denial of the winning candidate. And while distracted in Primorye, Khabarovsk residents gave a ride to Shport. Just read Wikipedia for these events at least. Regarding falsifications, even if you do not take into account the facts of stuffing and other electoral tricks so beloved by Edrom, filmed on video, take an interest in the statistics presented by the mathematician Sergei Shpilkin.

[sleeve]

Well, it looks like I'm from the moon. And on the moon, no lawsuits for falsifications, no clear program from Navalny are visible. Slogans yes. And about the pension and about billions. You can see them. And there is nothing to think about. These very elections are coming in our region. And the same block appeared. Even my friend as a candidate. To all the questions “what are you guys about”, at first it was “it is necessary to change people in power”, then a program where through the word control over the budget, and now advertising and in it we will “remove United Russia”. On the other side, there are quite clear commitments, objects, financing programs. And also almost all the "unfulfilled" and methods of solution, and before the elections. Well, I kind of understand that that lads already have continuity and you can report and promise not fulfilling, like there is where to transfer. Just for comparison, protest and at least a little bit business. Well, I don’t understand anyway, well, you cannot build a policy on the Contra, hope for the youth, believe that the past jambs will be forgotten. And if something goes wrong, then everyone is to blame except themselves. And so Moscow is not Russia ... It's been a long time already. After the 91st.

[vic02]

Not visible, because in Russia, through the efforts of the current government, there is no independent judicial system. The prosecutor's office, court and police are simply serving the interests of the local or central oligarchy. And also because people from the "Molchalins" category (according to Saltykov-Shchedrin) have very specific sight and hearing. I'll try to help you, look at the time intervals 8: 45-11: 03, 11: 25-20: 08 youtube.com/watch?v=IgE-DV-9z7E Remember what followed in the 90s? And pray that your children or grandchildren will not have the opportunity to eat breakfast or lunch from the same companies in school or kindergarten.

[sleeve]

And yet I will answer, although I did not want to. I'm sure you can literally flood me with such testimonies. And I have no doubt that there are drawbacks. Of course, they get in the way along with the production. The internet is a big, great scene in the world where people finally become actors. But ... What I do myself and what I never tire of calling. It is precisely with this that we must fight, and not blame everything on the system. Then you can endlessly only denounce and do nothing because the "system". And in the same context. An old proverb about how they burned down a house while fighting cockroaches. Exactly how Ukraine did it and how the Belarusians are trying. That's what I mean ... If we are happy with everything, then this is a diagnosis. If you expose shortcomings, then this is already a blessing. If you still check the information, then it's almost work. If the system is to blame for everything, then it is to seek an excuse for human stupidity and meanness. They say it's not M ... supplies such rubbish and deserves punishment, but the system is created this way, and it is useless to do something, just change everything.

[New Year day]

Quote: lucul

You can't be a little pregnant, so here too - either they were trashed or not.

In the next branch they write about the tankers. So there hit the target only the third time.

[sleeve]

Which group has ALL the money? What is ALL money? Why is this "grouping" with impunity? Where does the information about the grouping, money, impunity come from?

[Svarog]

Quote: lucul

Yes, Navalny's campaign has worked out his own, exhausted, now his curators are preparing for a sacred sacrifice ...

Something that we have a lot of sacred victims .. nowhere, but we have continuous poisoning .. The United States and China seem to be straining, but something isn’t massively poisoning anyone .. And then, what a coincidence, in Belarus massive protests began here and Navalny got poisoned.

[your1970]

Quote: Svarog

The United States and China seem to be straining, but something isn’t massively poisoning anyone there ..

- and you read - why suddenly two US citizens got a bullet in the head from "random thieves" - when Hillary Clinton's correspondence from her personal email came out ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Ka-52

special board, German clinic ... where are the firewood from, I wonder?

Why was he sent there at all?
I would be treated at home and there would be less stench

[dauria]

Why was he sent there at all.

I agree. Legally, they could not release - for him debts. If sick - to treat, if a crime is established - to investigate at home. Everything is according to the law, and ask the audience from over the hill. This is a common internal affair for any country, even if Navalny is a citizen of the planet Krypton.

[RUSS]

Quote: Ka-52

Recall that after being hospitalized in the Omsk clinic, Navalny was transferred to the German clinic "Charite" by special board.

to see "being treated abroad" the opposition loves no less than those whom it criticizes special board, German clinic ... where are the firewood from, I wonder?

Half of our officials and elites are treated abroad

[snake]

Quote: Ka-52

to see "being treated abroad" the opposition loves no less than those whom it criticizes

That is how it is, but the opposition is not happy that we have the best medicine in the world and the West is rotting. The opposition is more consistent.

[venik]

Quote: Ka-52

special board, German clinic ... where are the firewood from, I wonder?

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"Because of the hillock", of course! Grandfather Soros "chops" ..... and liberal dermocrats give a lift .....

[RUSS]

Many are sure that Navalny went with alcohol and really believe in it, my question is, what kind of alcohol can you go to like this, to a coma, and how much should you drink?

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: RUSS

Many are sure that Navalny went with alcohol and really believe in it, my question is, what kind of alcohol can you go to like this, to a coma, and how much should you drink?

In principle, you can! But you need to try very, very hard !!!

[New Year day]

Quote: Kote pane Kohanka

But you need to try very, very hard !!!

What is your youthful coma dose?
Does your habit change after such a dose?

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Kote pane Kohanka

But you need to try very, very hard !!!

What is your youthful coma dose?
Does your habit change after such a dose?

Bath! Didn't swim!

[Thrifty]

RUSS is methyl, not ethyl alcohol, and everything is based on it, including moonshine! This, for starters, because after such a drink, God forbid to survive! And, in terms of dosage, it depends on the body, although you may survive, you will remain disabled forever, because the side effect on the body is enormous! !!

[New Year day]

Quote: Thrifty

methyl alcohol, not ethyl alcohol,

Don't be confused. From methyl, vision and kidneys simply fall off. Methyl poisoning is treated with ethyl alcohol as a competitive substitute. From an overdose of ethyl alcohol go into hibernation, from methyl alcohol (in the smallest doses) - to the next world

[Thrifty]

Sylvest - if the doctors make an accurate diagnosis, and the patient quickly gets into intensive care, then yes, you are right, otherwise, the case will end tragically. ..

[New Year day]

Quote: Thrifty

if doctors make an accurate diagnosis,

In most cases, this succeeds immediately, later toxicology comes. But this is subject to the possibility of performing such procedures.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Thrifty

if doctors make an accurate diagnosis,

In most cases, this succeeds immediately, later toxicology comes. But this is subject to the possibility of performing such procedures.

Aunt squirrel and uncle devil come before !!! For procedures - purgen !!!

[RUSS]

Quote: Thrifty

RUSS is methyl, not ethyl alcohol, and everything is based on it, including moonshine! This, for starters, because after such a drink, God forbid to survive! And, in terms of dosage, it depends on the body, although you may survive, you will remain disabled forever, because the side effect on the body is enormous! !!

People almost immediately go blind from methyl alcohol, Navalny did not go blind

[venik]

Quote: RUSS

People almost immediately go blind from methyl alcohol, Navalny did not go blind

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They do not go blind immediately, but in the later stages, if methanol poisoning is diagnosed too late and treatment is started late!

[Victorio]

Quote: RUSS

Many are sure that Navalny went with alcohol and really believe in it, my question is, what kind of alcohol can you go to like this, to a coma, and how much should you drink?

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believe, do not believe.
/ However, the events of recent years show that methanol is often in the composition of surrogate alcoholic beverages - a poison that is deadly for humans.
Its particular danger is due to the fact that it is indistinguishable from ethyl alcohol in smell and taste. At the same time, not only pure methanol is life-threatening, but also liquids containing it even in relatively small quantities.
SYMPTOMS OF ACUTE POISONING WITH METHANOL, depending on the amount of toxic substance taken, may occur AFTER A FEW HOURS, AND AFTER 1–2 DAYS AFTER ITS TAKING. Most often it is visual impairment, depression of the central nervous system, abdominal pain, nausea and vomiting.
The sensation of photophobia, blurring or indistinctness of objects, as well as a "blizzard" before the eyes in symptomatic cases of methanol poisoning are almost always present. Pupils are often dilated and respond poorly to light or not at all. Confusion of consciousness, drowsiness and dullness of sensitivity. Epileptic seizures and fast falling into a coma.
The consequences of methanol poisoning remain even with timely medical care. The most common injuries are persistent visual impairment up to blindness, damage to the liver and digestive organs, disorders of the central nervous system. /

[New Year day]

Quote: Victorio

often in the composition of surrogate alcoholic beverages is methanol - a deadly poison for humans.

To what extent does this apply to Navalny? How many patients have you seen with methyl alcohol poisoning?

[Victorio]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Victorio

often in the composition of surrogate alcoholic beverages is methanol - a deadly poison for humans.

To what extent does this apply to Navalny? How many patients have you seen with methyl alcohol poisoning?

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I did not write that this refers to bulk, the rest of the questions go there, at the link http://crb-ilek.ru/181-ostorozhno-metanol.html

[nov_tech.vrn]

In fact, when our people are going to poison, it always turns out to be of high quality - for example Popel - "nee" Bandera. They also say Belenko, a notorious traitor - an airplane hijacker, who seems to have poisoned himself with mushrooms.

[voyaka uh]

Lately - jamb by jamb.
The Chekists are no longer the same as in Soviet times.

[dauria]

The Chekists are no longer the same as in Soviet times ..

And don’t say .. What has this fool Putin brought the planet to?
We have one granny, a dozen peasants, made a home-brew on methanol ... And she took money from them too.
I didn't even want to ... And here is such an office of one - and nothing.

[voyaka uh]

Do you remember the interview of this sweet couple for Simonyan? I was dying with laughter :
(by memory)
"Why did you come to this town?"
"Well, there is a cathedral ..."
"Why didn't you go to him?"
"Uh ... the weather was bad."
"Was the weather better the next day?"
"Yes ... it was better ..."
"And you have come to this city again,
and did not go to the cathedral again? "
... so disgraced the Chekists that they, it seemed, only had to drown themselves.
But nothing, modern security officers wipe themselves off and continue to sculpt punctures, as in the comedies of John English.

[Victorio]

Quote: voyaka uh

... so disgraced the Chekists that they, it seemed, only had to drown themselves.

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? no need to wishful thinking. show someone a finger, laugh

[kapitan92]

Quote: voyaka uh

Lately - jamb by jamb.
The Chekists are no longer the same as in Soviet times.

I agree with you!
Only in modern Russia, the FSB, I would not call the Chekists. The structure keeps pace with the times and is commercialized. The KAMAZ security officers did not take out the loot. Let us recall the punctures of foreign intelligence, under Fradkov, but a man of the "family", the "work" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of Russia (an attempt to kidnap, set up in the Republic of Belarus). There are many questions.

Jokes are jokes, but a serious setup! The results, with a competent promotion in the West, and they know how to do it there, can be sad for Russia politically and economically.
Bulk is a bargaining chip !!!

[your1970]

Quote: kapitan92

The KAMAZ security officers did not take out the loot.

- only because there were no KAMAZ vehicles at that time. Quite often it figured in the files - "hid what was found during the search", "did not enter the jewelry into the inventory" ...

[New Year day]

Quote: nov_tech.vrn

when our people are going to poison, it always turns out with high quality

But what about Colonel V. Kostov?

[New Year day]

Quote: RUSS

what kind of alcohol can you go like this, to a coma, and how much should you drink?

It is easier for the singed, more difficult for the elite. The amount drunk depends on the presence of the enzyme alcohol dehydrogease in a person. When the dose is exceeded, the coma sets in quietly, without convulsions and screams. The client just falls asleep. One client, after an overdose, lay in intensive care for 8 days and woke up only on the old new year. And no cramps and pains

[askort154]

Silvestr ..... After an overdose, one client of ours lay in intensive care for 8 days and woke up only on the old new year. And no cramps or pains.

This is not an overdose. This is the developed immuno-regime of the male population of Russia, during the celebrations of 2 New Years.
He's just sly! Celebrated the New Year until the 4th,
then I rested with you for 8 days to meet the Old New Year with renewed vigor.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: RUSS

What kind of alcohol can you go like this, to a coma, and how much should you drink?

is it banter or not knowledge of the topic?

[RUSS]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: RUSS

What kind of alcohol can you go like this, to a coma, and how much should you drink?

is it banter or not knowledge of the topic?

It was a question?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

excuse me how old are you for asking such questions ?!
You really don't know what kind of alcohol you can get into a coma ?!

[RUSS]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

excuse me how old are you for asking such questions ?!
You really don't know what kind of alcohol you can get into a coma ?!

Really

[KCA]

Anyone who is singed, is not always vodka in a stall from under the counter, expensive alcohol is much more profitable to counterfeit, a bottle like 10-20-30 bottles of vodka costs, and the cost is the same, well, only bottles are a little more expensive

[bar]

I have a question - what kind of alcohol can you go like this

Infa slipped by that they had dabbled in moonshine the day before. Maybe they ate mushrooms.

[Olgovich]

Quote: RUSS

Many are sure that Navalny went with alcohol and really believe in it, my question is, what kind of alcohol can you go to like this, to a coma, and how much should you drink?

alcohol is the same in beer and in whiskey with moonshine.

A lethal dose is 1 liter of vodka.

But with many, even harmless, medicines, there are enough and very small doses (depending on the individual person)

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Olgovich

A lethal dose is 1 liter of vodka.

Why don't I die when I drink a liter?

[Ka-52]

Why don't I die when I drink a liter?

because most likely they did not drink in one gulp, but gradually, during the banquet while drinking, the poor liver tried to save your unintentional body from poison once with a friend we drank 4 bottles of vodka for two per night. They survived and did not even suffer much after. Was true, about 35 years old

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Ka-52

Was true, about 35 years old

Well, the appetizer was probably of high quality and in sufficient quantity.

[Thrifty]

Mordvin 3-depending on how you drink! And what to eat is also an important factor! My neighbor always eats only salty foods, but he doesn't drink anything, and it's easy that the same liter “tries to persuade himself”!

[Olgovich]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Why don't I die when I drink a liter?

Lucky!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Why don't I die when I drink a liter?

Why didn't you add it?

But with many, even harmless, medicines, there are enough and very small doses (depending on the individual person)

[New Year day]

Quote: Olgovich

A lethal dose is 1 liter of vodka.

Nonsense. When I was young, I could easily, but with a good meat snack

[carstorm 11]

it all depends on a bunch of factors. weight. age. someone and 500 ml will kill. someone will not dump a liter. I know those. my wife takes away from 3 glasses of champagne just on the way. brother 0.7 brandy and calmly goes home)

[askort154]

carstorm 11 ..... it all depends on a bunch of factors

That's for sure. Depends on: weight, state of health, habits, mood, type of snack, interlocutors, freedom in time and on female "hitting".
And in order to hold out longer without getting drunk (if etiquette requires) 15-30 minutes before use, swallow a spoonful of butter. Checked!
Once in our company there was a Hindu, after the first glass of him "cut down", they laid him on the sofa, he had the weight, not even a ram, but a lamb.

[Adam Khomich]

Quote: RUSS

Navalny went on alcohol

A glass of kosorylovka will knock down the horse. And this fat woman with a bunch of chronic sores, and even more so. He would have kefir through cheesecloth, and not any muck. By the way, as our head of the laboratory of chemical analysis said, pills should be taken only for health reasons, and not swallowed by handfuls for any occasion.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: RUSS

Many are sure that Navalny went with alcohol and really believe in it, my question is, what kind of alcohol can you go to like this, to a coma, and how much should you drink?

It is better to ask Mikhail Efremov about this, he is an expert in this matter. Although much stronger than Navalny. Training.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: RUSS

alcohol can go like this, to a coma, and how much should you drink?

There would be desire and health ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: RUSS

what kind of alcohol can go like this, to a coma,

Anyone. Even beer, if mixed with vodka and other alcohol

and how much should you drink?

It's not about how many at a time, how many days to drink

[carstorm 11]

in combination with coke, very little is even needed.

[RUSS]

Quote: carstorm 11

in combination with coke, very little is even needed.

Many Baltic sailors, the mainstay of the Bolsheviks, were consummate cocaine addicts. Among the "sniffers" there were often St. Petersburg workers-proletarians, ready for any crime for the strip of "cats" (the slang name for cocaine), pros..ki, boys who were selling powder at the Nikolaev railway station ... Revolutionary sailors introduced the expression " Baltic tea ": a solution of cocaine in ethyl alcohol or other spirits. This mixture prolongs and enhances the effect of taking cocaine.

[your1970]

if a palette, then there is enough bottle for everyone

[501 Legion]

yet another "Skripal" appeared, but who needs him, he was sitting in Russia and no one touched him by and large, unless just another sacred sacrifice for the next flywheel of anti-Russian hysteria.

[Victorio]

Quote: 501Legion

yet another "Skripal" appeared, but who needs him, he was sitting in Russia and no one touched him by and large, unless just another sacred sacrifice for the next flywheel of anti-Russian hysteria.

===
probably with the hype of the Germans to push for new sanctions, and ideally to close the gas pipeline

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 501Legion

one more "skripal" was drawn, but who needs it,

Yushchenko, creaked, bulk, but where they come from, it is not clear where they are poisoned and it is not clear what, and all the bumps are on Russia. Let the West deal with its adets. Now someone else is being trapped, so what? Again, Russia is to blame. In Pärnu, a few years ago, about 20 people were poisoned with methanol, and no one shouted that Russia had poisoned them.

[vic02]

You probably live in another country. 2 million subscribers of Navalny's channel disagree with you, as well as the Edro party, which lost a third of its seats in the elections to the Moscow City Duma. Let's add, for example, the loss of Edra's candidates in the elections in Khabarovsk.

[Mountain shooter]

Again, some strange poisons that DO NOT KILL, but allow you to organize dances near the bed ... Again, they take out a rotten theme with "Novice" from the refrigerator ... Once a ride, why not repeat it?

[New Year day]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Again, some strange poisons that DO NOT KILL, but

The poisons are not strange, and the result depends on the dose, the route of penetration, the nature of the food taken and a lot of other reasons.

[Adam Khomich]

Quote: Silvestr

Poisons are not strange

There are poisons, if they get into just an open area of ​​the skin, they instantly lead to death. And if you want to liquidate, you can simply let it out the window or run over by car.

[New Year day]

Quote: adam khomich

if you want to liquidate, you can simply let it out the window or run over by car.

Roughly, there is no creativity. Since the days of the Medici, poisons have been held in high esteem.

[Cyril G ...]

It would be a desire to kill - and so it is designed for the tearful, suspicious idiots, which the Europeans have become ...

[New Year day]

Quote: Cyril G ...

It would be desire killed

Then you should read, if not about BOV, then about Kostov, Markov and Kalugin. To broaden your horizons

[Cyril G ...]

In order to grow wiser, you need to understand that if the task is to actually eliminate, then firstly it will be done, and secondly, the most reliable and effective method will be chosen. And the probability of a fatal end will be in the region of 0.9 ... And in the case of the useless Skripal, who, if they wanted to soak, would really be sharpened in the zone, and in the case of the blunt-headed Navalner, who is also extremely convenient for our authorities, the method is reliable to eliminate would definitely find another. And so two situations are tracing paper. However, the Europeans have already voiced their desire to shoot their own right egg - the introduction of sanctions against the SP-2. Probably for this, the closest comrades-in-arms poured rat poison to Lesha.

[New Year day]

Quote: Cyril G ...

In order to grow wiser, you need to understand, if the task is to actually eliminate,

Obviously you are not General Kalugin Your ways for ghouls

[Quadro]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Again, some strange poisons that DO NOT KILL, but

The poisons are not strange, and the result depends on the dose, the route of penetration, the nature of the food taken and a lot of other reasons.

And here is our beloved Sylvester. Specialist in economics, legal law, weapons, anti-corruption investigations and an expert on special services poisons.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

The Skripals' cat was not caught, I'm afraid he is pawing to Germany for a new assignment!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Again, some strange poisons

Probably the implementation period is over.

[RUSS]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Again, some strange poisons that DO NOT KILL,

Poisons killed Yuri Shchekochikhin and Litvinenko

[Woodman]

Recall that Navalny

Again Navalny ... Yes, they did not write about the amendments to the Constitution as much as they do now about Navalny ...

[KCA]

So Navalny is small, but he pays his bots, so they tear his anus

[Prisoner]

The Czechs are completely crazy on poisons.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Couple with the British!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

The Czech edition of Aktualne published an article in which the columnist Kateřina Vitkova writes about "an extremely effective poison"

[tihonmarine]

Here's a snack from which there is no poisoning. This is not a shawarma in eateries.

[Angelo Provolone]

not beer means poison

[APASUS]

Wouldn't it have been easier for Tolik to fall out of the window, get into an accident? It's just that this story with poison, the horror reminds of the Skripals, it was necessary to find traces, there are no other poisons, you have to poison with a novice or polonium. It's like leaving a passport at the scene of a crime!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: APASUS

Is it easier for Tolik to fall out of the window, get into an accident?

strongly resisted

[Uncle lee]

Quote: APASUS

hound a newbie

This is a little different poison - "Bulk"

[ghby]

Quote from Uncle Lee

This is a little different poison - "Bulk"

Have a bottle?

[tihonmarine]

Quote from Uncle Lee

This is a little different poison - "Bulk"

There is no poison, Bashirov and Petrov are now working elsewhere. So it's all fakes about the poisoning.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: APASUS

Wouldn't it have been easier for Tolik to fall out of the window, get into an accident?

What Tolik? Chubais?

[Lesorub]

The Czech edition of Aktualne published an article in which the columnist Kateřina Vitkova writes about the "extremely effective poison" with which the Russian oppositionist was allegedly poisoned.

Western press clumsily tries to make a "sacred" sacrifice out of Navalny!))

[Alexander X]

We have enough trashy moonshine for everyone. Drink under the pale mushrooms and do not crap ...

[Andrea]

Have you tried dust? They say it is a very effective pest control.
By the way, in the same clinic, Yushchenko was "poisoned" after excessive drinking and gluttony.

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Andrea

Yushchenko in the same clinic "poisoned" after immeasurable drinking and gluttony.

So that's why Navalny was brought there because he ate the same. Yushchenko eaten crayfish, and Bulk lobster.

[Yurahip]

Yes damn rats in a cafe at the airport, and then Alyoshka Navalny comes in, well, they pour him a cup of coffee in the same cup, drink my dear!

[CAT BAIYUN]

Well, besides the fact that, in principle, all this writing about poison is bullshit, this phrase won me over:

this group of poisons also includes "chemical warfare agents, including" Novichok ".

A chemical warfare agent is a system first of all. It should contain the agent itself, the application protocol, the storage and transportation protocol, the protection and treatment protocol. Otherwise, it's just OV which on the planet above the roof.
The Czechs are not raving like a child .. Well, that's understandable. Give them only the theme, and they will grunt in chorus.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: KOT BYUN

this group of poisons also includes "chemical warfare agents, including" Novichok ".

Well, then they would add "sarin", soman ", and there would be a complete set, although in practice it turned out that the ice ax works more efficiently.

[New Year day]

Quote: tihonmarine

Although in practice it turned out that the ice ax works more efficiently.

Judging by how long Trotsky lived after, not very much. Qualification is important in any business

[tatra]

How tired of these false, hypocritical, slanderous, unsubstantiated information wars, which all 100 years after the October Revolution have been waged by the enemies of the communists in the West, in Europe, on the territory of the USSR both against dissidents and against each other, when one of them dared " fail "like Yanukovych and Putin. They cannot live calmly and peacefully, without the "enemy image".

[Well done]

Krasa was poisoned by rat poison - everything is logical and there is nothing to be surprised at.

[Viktor Sergeev]

It remains to understand what kind of poison is it?

[Tagan]

Quote: APASUS

Wouldn't it have been easier for Tolik to fall out of the window, get into an accident? It's just that this story with poison, the horror reminds of the Skripals, it was necessary to find traces, there are no other poisons, you have to poison with a novice or polonium. It's like leaving a passport at the scene of a crime!

Leshik. Not easier. The theme must be long-lasting. They will carry his half-dead carcass until they get bored or a new victim appears. Well, then, so that Lyokha does not say anything superfluous due to his deafness, they can put him to sleep.

[Kelwin]

About "put to sleep" cool! * fell under the table *

[mikh-korsakov]

Another thing worries me. Why has Russia been pursuing the foreign policy of the cautious loser Putin for several years now? References to the fact that, they say, the economy does not allow a policy worthy of a nuclear power, I sweep aside. Here's an example. The President of Belarus, states with an economy weaker than Russia, how should you not treat him for boorish anti-Russian attacks, when his ass was hot, he behaved with dignity. I was not afraid to stand face to face and talk to the striking workers, yes. and the trick with a machine gun, in my opinion, is not clowning, but showing the public that he is not Yanukovych, and in which case he will not put his pants in his pants and will fight to the last. Meanwhile, the West, taking advantage of Lukashenka’s jambs, is openly taking away our only ally. And what are we in response ?: Lavrov mumbles sadly that for Russia interference from the outside is UNACCEPTABLE. And we are impudent, they answer - it is unacceptable for you, but you will suffer. And now, hastily turned up, a housewife speaks in the European Parliament. What will happen next? And that Ukraine is not a lesson? Poroshenko has not yet established himself in power, he also said that he was not against Russia, and then began to iron the supporters of Russia with tanks, then there were such in Ukraine. And now no, because no one wants to fit in for a weak Russia - this is dangerous. That's also in the story with Navalny. I understand that relatives have the right to treat the patient wherever they want. But why not take guarantees that the treatment will be carried out with the participation of Russian specialists in order to get rid of innuendo. Because “Charité” still lied. Who diagnosed Yushchenko - dioxin poisoning. Ten years later they muttered - the mistake came out. But the job is done. Ours are still playing an offended virgin. It's a shame.

[Shuttle]

Why isn't the sodium oxybutyrate version considered?
By the way, Lechaim steered well from the court session scheduled for 24.08.20 15:00, where he, as a defendant, goes by the head.

[Incvizitor]

Why write something about this anal, give this rotten body to oblivion and ignore.

[Shuttle]

Quote: Incvizitor

Why write something about this anal, give this rotten body to oblivion and ignore.

Because this is now a political question.

[rocket757]

As one would expect, this topic will now be promoted in Europe.

work in full.
That's what's strange! Any such incident should lead to the understanding that in addition to the hype in the press and the bluff / squeal of various foreign figures, there is no serious basis for accusing at least someone, so a schob with facts, evidence, has never happened ... and there is no interes in these the Russian side has no cases, from the definition AT ALL. But with foreigners everything is fine with interes, it IS!
Simple logic, a sane person can easily come to this ... and they do, but very little.
Do not want to think or there is already nothing to think ???

[Dym71]

we are talking about a substance that can be rat poison. It is used in agriculture to control rodents.

If so, it is not surprising, a rat, she is a rat in Africa.

[Kelwin]

Czech professor ... Patočka states that "an extremely strong poison" caused a sharp rise in temperature and seizures.

A terrible poison, the most terrible, especially for gayrop and mattress sycophants - the chatlanin slammed the lutz and from the hooves, but for it’s not good, amen.

[Karaul73]

You need to sit exactly on the priest. And no one will poison you.

[Real Pilot]

Hey, take out the cooked one! Who's new?
Newbie ... Old Man ...
As long as everyone is alive.

But Alexey Navalny is definitely not the first day in politics. No enemies with his friends!

I remember Nemtsov, who was able to help live the opposition march in Maryino, even agreed to him a meeting of the authorities.
On the same day, a rally took place, but at the Kremlin on the bridge. And Boris organized it after all, being dead. Even by Sunday, posters and T-shirts with the slogan "Boris" were made!
So buns and cookies need to be worked out, and not always at will.

There was such a joke:
-Vinnie, Makarevich invited me to "Smak" (culinary show)!
-Where to watch you there?
-You will see a barbecue, it will be me!


In general, there are so many questions in this story, and not so much to the authorities.
How much they caved in that a comrade, under recognizance not to leave (he would have been in jail - he would have been alive and well), who violated it in Omsk / Tomsk, was released abroad. The doctors saved ...

For Belarus, a vaccine and other "gift" to Uncle Vova was probably made.

[Real Pilot]

There is a suspicion that he was poisoned with a mixture of drugs and moonshine. Very likely.
There are such examples.

Because if the specialists work, then everything is clear there.

[Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich]

However, some strange professor: he did not participate in the analysis (in any case, there is not a single word about this in the Czech communication), the results of the examination and expert reports have not been officially published ... There are only some very careful assumptions / assumptions of the German side, but this professor has already seen what kind of poisonous substance was used !!!
Interestingly, in what field is this person a professor ??? Already not in the field of clairvoyance ???

[strelokmira]

An extremely effective poison that kills a person a minute after ingestion
Although Navalny may not be a man, then the Czechs are right

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: strelokmira

Although Navalny may not be a man

This is an extremely difficult question, is Lesha undead or evil? Or maybe he screamed so that they sprayed him with holy water?

[Olddetractor]

Is this Patochka also a municipal politician?

[Machete]

An extremely effective poison is a poison that kills quickly and without detection.
And this is not poison - do not understand what at all. Up to the drunk, mixed with medicine.

Such are the Xsperds and carry shit over the ears of the mindless Western inhabitants who cannot add two and two.

[Komissar]

German specialists can only hope that the patient will come out of the coma and recover.

And we in Russia do not care how it will survive or not ... We need to eat less Chinese noodles at railway stations. All of Russia will now fall under sanctions again And in general it is better not to let him back into Russia

[iouris]

If the poison were effective, the entire plane would have been poisoned. How did Kira Yarmash survive?
Here "British scientists" prove that the poison was much faster.
By the way, where are the Skripals? They are said to be alive.

[Cyril G ...]

I don’t think so, obviously the British special services soaked the Skripals, uh, in the sense they threw the carcasses into the Thames with their feet in concrete basins, and now they will forever hang noodles on everyone’s ears that Skripal is alive, and will cut his modest pension for a long time ...

[voyaka uh]

In fact, Skripal regularly calls his mother in Moscow and his niece too.
But your fantasies testify to a deep knowledge of the series about the Italian mafia, commendable.

[Liam]

This is about the American mafia rather. In Sicily, they were usually dissolved in acid.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: voyaka uh

In fact, Skripal regularly calls his mother in Moscow and his niece too.

Lyosha ... I took the stone off my soul ... And I was so worried, so worried.
But it was more offensive for the cat ...

[Cyril G ...]

I see, you are not even able to understand irony? It happens....

[Lew]

And why does Europe like our clowns?

[kapitan92]

Quote: Lew

And why does Europe like our clowns?

Like it, don't like it, it's a rhetorical question! But they learned to use them in their own interests - a fact!

[Lew]

It is a pity that we have not learned to perceive them as clowns from the Petrosyan show.

[Victorio]

Quote: Lew

And why does Europe like our clowns?

===
clowns without spectators will be left without work. more questions for viewers

[NF68]

How can these people know if the Germans themselves have not really understood anything yet?

[razved]

Patochka states that "an extremely strong poison" caused a sharp rise in temperature and seizures.

A mixture of booze and drugs, especially in large quantities, sooooo dangerous and strong poison !!!!

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: voyaka uh

Do you remember the interview of this sweet couple for Simonyan?

I remember a video from a numismatic store - the Bashirovs were looking at the coins in the window with quite professional interest, and the store was closed. I dare to assume that we looked after something interesting at nice prices and returned the next day.
And further. They drove for 4 hours along the route for half an hour. Alternatively, we visited towns along the route.
Most likely, they transported something with contraband, without a declaration, from that they "sculpted a hunchback."
Of course, other versions are also possible, but for me this is not bad either.

[Ovsigovets]

lying as godlessly as a gray gelding entot prakhfessor))))) if he was effective, then Sisyan Ololoshka shkolotronny would already be buried in Omsk ... and so ... not a fig is not effective

[reader65]

Here the scrap-bearers with the kremlebots got excited. Now you can demand an increase in wages, as their owners can continue to steal with impunity.

[Ovsigovets]

sometimes a child takes a direct insult because of what a low opinion they have about our special services)))))) sometimes I think that they would sound a seriously guarded goal - they overwhelmed like a mammoth without a hitch and would say - THIS IS SO WE KILL for clarity. .. so that such nonsense is not then exaggerated

[Kerensky]

Let me remind you about Karabas again. There is information on the Web.

[datur]

hmm, there is no more lobster alesha-it is his turn to be the main sacred victim !!! The owners don't just throw money away! now hold on! will begin! I'm curious why these characters believe that this is just like that and forever?

[Rusticolus]

And why no one asked the question, and who benefits from poisoning bulk? And not from a political point of view, but from the most commonplace - because of the attendants. Then he closed his fund, cashed out the babosiks, and then Oppa and his wife and brother drew him a wooden mac. But in view of the stupidity and curvature, they did not draw as it should. Well, now the Germans will finish painting him, to his bare ass.

[perm23]

these substances are used both to treat Alzheimer's disease and to treat bedwetting. I wonder what Leha Navalny had

[foxhounds]

Lavrov was right

[Vlad Pervovich]

experts however ...

[Romanenko]

Quote: "As you would expect, this is the topic that will be promoted in Europe now."
But what else was to be expected?
It worked out in England to poison the traitors, but it was very bad, that is, they did not cope with the task.
What conclusion follows from this?
After all, it must be effectively poisoned. So it is necessary to poison on the territory of the Russian Federation, since there is someone, the fifth column in Russia is now stronger and more numerous than ever, thanks to Twitter, WhatsApp, Facebook and so on, so on, so on.
Finding a performer does not present any problems, as it was already known before, getting a Novice in the Czech Republic is also easier than shelling pears, unlike the Russian Federation, they synthesized him there, according to their own statements.
To carry the required dose, yes, too easily.
And now they have already worked for you, and in order to cover the ends, quickly go to Germany, there are already certificates written in advance with an open date, all the cases ...
Well, this is, as it were, my vision of the issue, which can be very different from reality.
But something is similar to what is happening.
But, in a successful scenario, one can already blame for the poisoning not some visiting tourists from FSB, but himself ... Like a personal order, etc.
However, I think we will soon read it in the press.