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Russian space program was cut by 150 billion rubles

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Russian space program was cut by 150 billion rubles

The Russian Federal Space Program (FKP) has been cut by 2025 billion rubles until 150 and may be subject to another cut. The general director of Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin told about this in an interview with TASS.


According to Rogozin, the space program has been cut by 150 billion rubles to date. At the same time, another reduction in space programs is not excluded due to the fall in federal budget revenues. Roscosmos believes that a reduction in funding for the industry will lead to its degradation.

We must complete all negotiations with the Finance Ministry in the fall. (...) According to the passport, the FKP should total 2025 trillion 1 billion rubles until 406, but in reality it has already been cut by 150 billion rubles. And that's not counting the alleged sequestration of space programs, which is associated with a drop in federal budget revenues. (...) a reduction in funding for the industry below 1 trillion 406 billion will lead to its degradation. I hope for government support

- added the head of Roscosmos.

Rogozin noted that the cut in funding prevents the signing of a contract for the development of a heavy "Angara" with a third stage on hydrogen engines.

In February of this year, Rogozin announced that Roskosmos plans to start implementing the Unified State Space Program for 2021-2030 from the beginning of next year. Within the framework of this program, it is planned to create a super-heavy rocket, a lunar program, the Sphere group, the development of GLONASS, etc.

Currently, Roscosmos and the Ministry of Finance are arguing about the need to include in it and allocate funding for the creation of a complex for landing astronauts on the moon.
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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 25 August 2020 09: 42
    32
    This is apparently denied, in coloring Gzhel and hahlama! But the chef's face won't diminish from this ...
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 25 August 2020 09: 44
      +3
      Russian space program was cut by 150 billion rubles

      It's hard for everyone - the crisis! yes
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 25 August 2020 09: 47
        36
        Russian space program was cut by 150 billion rubles

        It's hard for everyone - the crisis! yes

        However, they do not cut salaries for themselves, the top management of "natural resources" and senior officials, deputies, Federation Council, do not feel the crisis .. they are doing well ..
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 25 August 2020 09: 52
          +9
          Quote: Svarog
          However, they do not cut salaries for themselves, the top management of "natural resources" and senior officials, deputies, Federation Council, do not feel the crisis .. they are doing well ..

          Well, why not: they also have a crisis - the inability to increase their salary even more! yes
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 25 August 2020 10: 16
            +8
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Well, why not: they also have a crisis - the inability to increase their salary even more!

            They will carry out optimization, cutting half of the staff, so they will have a reserve for raising the salaries of the rest.
            1. military_cat
              military_cat 25 August 2020 10: 43
              +1
              Roscosmos believes that a reduction in funding for the industry will lead to its degradation.
              ... although it would seem - where already.
              1. DenZ
                DenZ 25 August 2020 14: 03
                +1
                Quote: military_cat
                .. although it would seem - where already.

                Yes, there are reserves for degradation, but for some reason there are no reserves for development.
            2. Perseverance
              Perseverance 25 August 2020 11: 20
              14
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Well, why not: they also have a crisis - the inability to increase their salary even more!

              They will carry out optimization, cutting half of the staff, so they will have a reserve for raising the salaries of the rest.

              where more?
              Federal State Unitary Enterprise Scientific Production Center for Automation and Instrumentation named after Academician N.A. Pilyugin "
              Mezhiritsky Efim Leonidovich General Director 2 148 801,71 c month.
              Malashina Lyudmila Vasilievna Chief Accountant RUB 630 per month
              Liventsev Vladimir Alekseevich
              Deputy General Director, Director of the Sosensky Instrument-Making Plant branch RUB 605 per month.
              https://www.roscosmos.ru/28911/
              MOSCOW, August 14 - RIA Novosti. Dmitry Rogozin, general director of Roscosmos, earned 2019 million rubles in 44, almost one and a half times more than last year, follows from the information on income published on the state corporation's website.

              and his advisers Andrey Klepach and Dmitry Stupakov - 85 million and 44,4 million, as well as the chairman of the scientific and technical council Yuri Koptev - he has 50,2 million
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 25 August 2020 11: 28
                +4
                Quote: Perseverance
                and his advisers Andrey Klepach and Dmitry Stupakov - 85 million and 44,4 million, as well as the chairman of the scientific and technical council Yuri Koptev - he has 50,2 million

                Interestingly, what is the salary of general designers at Roscosmos ???
          2. 210ox
            210ox 25 August 2020 10: 36
            +5
            Why is it impossible to increase your beloved salary? Everything is in their hands.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 25 August 2020 11: 30
              +5
              Quote: 210ox
              Why is it impossible to increase your beloved salary? Everything is in their hands.

              I don’t understand why you are being minus, you’ve expressed the truth.
        2. halpat
          halpat 25 August 2020 12: 03
          +2
          Quote: Svarog
          Russian space program was cut by 150 billion rubles

          It's hard for everyone - the crisis! yes

          However, they do not cut salaries for themselves, the top management of "natural resources" and senior officials, deputies, Federation Council, do not feel the crisis .. they are doing well ..

          Zhirik demands that the new building of the State Duma be finished off. The current one is cramped, they say, and does not correspond to modern standards of comfortable living of public servants / chosen ones, especially in light of the coronavirus pandemic.
          And they will build it. And fast.
        3. Senka naughty
          Senka naughty 25 August 2020 17: 53
          -3
          Quote: Svarog
          Russian space program was cut by 150 billion rubles

          It's hard for everyone - the crisis! yes

          However, they do not cut salaries for themselves, the top management of "natural resources" and senior officials, deputies, Federation Council, do not feel the crisis .. they are doing well ..

          If you had a brain and you would be in the "top management", you would cut the hell out for yourself, and would not write comments on the left here. Or have you figured out the whole economic situation?
          1. Victorio
            Victorio 26 August 2020 10: 52
            +1
            Quote: Senka Mad
            Would you have a brain and you would be in the "top management", you would cut the hell for yourself, and the left would not write here comments. Or have you figured out the whole economic situation?

            ===
            however, with one caveat - it may be so! in the meantime, this (excessively high salaries and the simultaneous occupation of several positions in different enterprises / councils, etc., is already there), and the criticism is fair.
      2. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 25 August 2020 09: 51
        12
        a reduction in funding for the industry below 1 trillion 406 billion will lead to its degradation.
        With such an attitude towards Space, the first Sputnik would not have been launched and Gagarin would not have flown ...
      3. x.andvlad
        x.andvlad 25 August 2020 11: 09
        0
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Russian space program was cut by 150 billion rubles

        It's hard for everyone - the crisis! yes

        There are no miracles. If there is no money in one place, then it is somewhere else. It remains to think about which one. Let's dream up?
      4. snake
        snake 25 August 2020 11: 13
        +6
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Russian space program was cut by 150 billion rubles

        It's hard for everyone - the crisis! yes

        Not everyone.
        Rotenbergs became the richest family in Russia according to Forbes
        https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4466761?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 25 August 2020 11: 32
          0
          Quote: serpent
          Not everyone.
          Rotenbergs became the richest family in Russia according to Forbes

          Naive people can only write that "it's hard for everyone."
      5. RUSS
        RUSS 25 August 2020 11: 49
        +6
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Russian space program was cut by 150 billion rubles

        It's hard for everyone - the crisis! yes

        They will say that Ukraine is doing even worse and it will be easier for everyone
      6. Bomb
        Bomb 25 August 2020 12: 43
        +5
        Not everyone. It's just that the head of the trampoline-transport department fucked everything up! The entire space x program and the Vostochny cosmodrome cost the same. But Musk himself will not steal from himself, and there ..... you know. Then the trampoline with its cost is not needed by anyone, it will be like in a movie "....... boy you did not understand, bring us some vodka, we are flying."
      7. FRoman1984
        FRoman1984 26 August 2020 07: 59
        0
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Russian space program was cut by 150 billion rubles

        It's hard for everyone - the crisis! yes

        He especially "hit" the Rotenberg, Sechin, Timchenko and other shoble. "Have lost weight", began to eat more bread, flour, probably.
    2. Clear
      Clear 25 August 2020 09: 52
      +3
      Quote: Theodore
      Russian space program was cut by 150 billion rubles

      Oh, Fyodor, I also read it first ... cosmetic... and got scared lol
      1. novel66
        novel66 25 August 2020 09: 56
        +3
        yes lady, because the main thing is to save face lol
        1. Clear
          Clear 25 August 2020 10: 03
          +2
          Quote: novel xnumx
          yes lady, because the main thing is to save face lol

          Hi Roma love

          As the saying goes - where faces are disgusting - and life is disgusting too ... lol
          1. novel66
            novel66 25 August 2020 10: 08
            +5
            well, yes, only when plastering the facade, do not forget about the rear! our to you hi
            1. Clear
              Clear 25 August 2020 10: 11
              -2
              Quote: novel xnumx
              well, yes, only when plastering the facade, do not forget about the rear! our to you hi

              Yes, Roma, who will take care of our rear if not ourselves yes
              1. novel66
                novel66 25 August 2020 13: 05
                +1
                but we have no funds!
      2. Roman246810
        Roman246810 25 August 2020 10: 11
        -5
        comic ..
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 25 August 2020 10: 18
        0
        Quote: Clear
        Oh, Fyodor, I also read it first ... cut off the cosmetic ... and got scared

        Oh Clear, but as if you use Russian cosmetics, there is nothing to be afraid of.
    3. Civil
      Civil 25 August 2020 09: 52
      11
      This is all the State Department's fault and Geyropa, they envy the island of stability and prosperity. Nothing won the coronavirus, as Kiriyenko Kindersyurprizovich said, so we will win space.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 25 August 2020 11: 35
        +1
        Quote: Civil
        Nothing won the coronavirus, as Kiriyenko Kindersyurprizovich said, so we will win space.

        If they cut it, it means that the Kindersurprizovichi won.
    4. svp67
      svp67 25 August 2020 09: 55
      11
      Quote: Theodore
      But the chef's face won't diminish from this ...

      So I'm wondering if the staff of his personal "PR specialists" will be reduced?
      Roscosmos believes that a reduction in funding for the industry will lead to its degradation.
      I'm wondering, are there breakthroughs? Is there a result of the funds already spent?
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 25 August 2020 09: 57
        +6
        Quote: svp67
        I'm wondering, are there breakthroughs? Is there a result of the funds already spent?

        If we were asked for the result, then it would certainly have been. Although a negative result is also a result. But everything is in place.
        1. svp67
          svp67 25 August 2020 10: 02
          10
          Quote: Svarog
          If we were asked for the result, then it would certainly have been.

          If we were not only asked, but also punished for systematic failures ... this would be the case, and so ... you can ask the same thing in different ways
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 25 August 2020 10: 24
            +9
            Russian space program was cut by 150 billion rubles
            the Martians breathed a sigh of relief ... smile
      2. blackice
        blackice 25 August 2020 10: 22
        +4
        I suspect that the joke about launching astronauts with a trampoline will soon come true.
        Not for Mask
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 25 August 2020 10: 27
        -1
        Quote: svp67
        So I'm wondering if the staff of his personal "PR specialists" will be reduced?

        Maybe one or two will be removed, and designers and engineers will fall under the "cutting knife".
        1. svp67
          svp67 25 August 2020 10: 34
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          and under the "cutting knife" designers and engineers will fall.

          as well as hard workers in production, since many of them are already of pre-retirement age
          1. dSK
            dSK 25 August 2020 10: 43
            +1
            Under this they buy from a private trader a Soviet "sea launch", which is time to take it to metal because of sea corrosion. For this private trader, this is a non-core asset that is only suitable for disposal and write-off of losses.
            For 35 lard they will buy, the same amount will be invested in it, if not more. And creating new things requires talented designers, who are now in huge shortage.
            1. Victorio
              Victorio 26 August 2020 10: 59
              0
              Quote: dsk
              Under this they buy from a private owner a Soviet "sea launch", which is time to take on metal due to marine corrosion. For this private trader, this is a non-core asset that is suitable only for disposal and write-off of losses.
              For 35 lard they will buy, the same amount will be invested in it, if not more. And creating new things requires talented designers, who are now in huge shortage.

              ===
              I don’t think the platform was launched at 83, and in 1997 it was converted into a launch platform
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 25 August 2020 11: 25
            +1
            Quote: svp67
            as well as hard workers in production, since many of them are already of pre-retirement age

            If there is any reduction in the flow of money, then the workers are automatically fired.
          3. Vadim237
            Vadim237 25 August 2020 16: 51
            0
            These are those who drill holes in ships and then seal them up with cold welding, or those who damage the rocket when installed on the launch pad - really highly professional workers are needed.
        2. Galleon
          Galleon 25 August 2020 11: 41
          +2
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Maybe one or two will be removed, and designers and engineers will fall under the "cutting knife".

          Yes, "all the evil" from these designers and engineers: it is they who are constantly delaying the deadlines, they are to blame for all the accidents and unsuccessful launches ... they bought it, and they are not satisfied with the salary of the middle class. The fewer there are, the less worries. Reduce the scum!
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 25 August 2020 12: 03
            0
            Quote: Galleon
            The fewer there are, the less worries.

            Here you are right. Although the budget is smaller, there are also fewer whiners and people who get confused. Now the normal work on mastering will begin ...
      4. pereselenec
        pereselenec 25 August 2020 12: 00
        +2
        Quote: svp67
        I'm wondering, are there breakthroughs? Is there a result of the funds already spent?


        This is still just a breakthrough. The breakthrough will come a little later.

      5. leks
        leks 25 August 2020 14: 02
        0
        The breakthrough is just not the one we wanted. It is enough to look at how the incomes of the head and deputies of the RK have grown.
        But seriously, given the trend, we should not wait for any progress for another 10 years.
        Eagle, Angara, Moon, etc., etc., shifted to the right, how to drink.
    5. Igor Ivanov_4
      Igor Ivanov_4 26 August 2020 23: 02
      0
      Fedor! You are robot! Well, no tactics and sense of humor. You say everything as it is. But I forgot about the masks! Rogozin's face will soon crack.
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 25 August 2020 09: 44
    15
    Roscosmos believes that a reduction in funding for the industry will lead to its degradation.

    Degradation, this is understandable ... only it came a little earlier, and above all in the moral qualities of the management apparatus of the industry, and in many places elsewhere ..... and the rest is all CONSEQUENCES!
  3. Hog
    Hog 25 August 2020 09: 44
    0
    Well, nothing, you will use what is left more rationally.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 25 August 2020 09: 54
      +3
      Quote: Hog
      Well, nothing, you will use what is left more rationally.

      If you are used to not deny yourself something, then nature can no longer be altered
      1. novel66
        novel66 25 August 2020 10: 01
        0
        the main thing is not to offend yourself !! hello, Seryog! hi
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 25 August 2020 10: 04
          -2
          Well, it's in the nature of a person. Hi Roman
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 25 August 2020 10: 56
        +1
        Quote: Lipchanin
        If you are used to not deny yourself something, then nature can no longer be altered

        Well, all those who remain after the optimization will have nothing to deny themselves. Someone will be reduced, and someone will be added. Won in the Navy, the number of ships decreased tenfold, and the number of admirals increased.
    2. military_cat
      military_cat 25 August 2020 10: 49
      +2
      Quote: Hog
      Well, nothing, you will use what is left more rationally.

      "No, sonny, you will eat less" © anecdote
  4. horus88
    horus88 25 August 2020 09: 45
    15
    What other degradation will lead to a decrease in funding, if there is nowhere to degrade ... What Rogozin landing on the moon, where there. Let the satellites start up to raise the defense and that's enough for them.

    He hopes for support, RESULT where?
    1. Volder
      Volder 25 August 2020 10: 59
      -4
      Quote: horus88
      What other degradation will the decrease in funding lead to, if there is nowhere to degrade ...
      The amount of funding for the space program in Russia is less than in the United States. Private space Musk is private only on paper (legally), but technologically and economically tied to government assistance.
      Quote: horus88
      Let the satellites start up to raise the defense and that's enough for them.
      I would look at you, how you would get out without proper funding.
      Quote: horus88
      He hopes for support, RESULT where?
      What result are you waiting for? We launch satellites and people into orbit, what else is needed? To the Americans before landing on the Moon - the same as before the Moon!
  5. Varyag71
    Varyag71 25 August 2020 09: 46
    0
    This is a breakthrough !!!
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 25 August 2020 10: 26
      +4
      Quote: Varyag71
      This is a breakthrough !!!

      "must be treated with understanding" (C)! sad
  6. RaiderXV1909
    RaiderXV1909 25 August 2020 09: 47
    +7
    Staple 150 less
    1. novel66
      novel66 25 August 2020 10: 02
      +7
      or not 150 more lol
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 25 August 2020 10: 17
        +4
        Quote: novel xnumx
        or not 150 more lol

        It depends on what kind of construction site in the country will stir up.
    2. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 25 August 2020 10: 34
      +4
      Quote: RaiderXV1909
      Staple 150 less

      In Roskosmos they steal 150 billion less, but in the Ministry of Finance they steal 150 billion more. fellow
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 25 August 2020 10: 58
      +1
      Quote: RaiderXV1909
      Staple 150 less

      How much they used to tyr, and now they will tyr so much.
  7. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 25 August 2020 09: 49
    +1
    In February of this year, Rogozin announced that Roskosmos plans to start implementing the Unified State Space Program for 2021-2030 from the beginning of next year. Within the framework of this program, it is planned to create a super-heavy rocket, a lunar program, the Sphere group, the development of GLONASS, etc.

    With a punchy budget7
    Well, dreaming is not bad
    1. novel66
      novel66 25 August 2020 10: 03
      +2
      and where does the money? the main thing is people ... although .. and where to get them?
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 25 August 2020 10: 16
        +1
        Quote: novel xnumx
        and where does the money? the main thing is people ... although .. and where to get them?

        rum hi
        And, the Ministry of Defense research institutes have faded slightly or completely?
        1. novel66
          novel66 25 August 2020 13: 04
          +2
          I don't even know, but things are not good at RKK Energiya, Gene, hello hi
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 25 August 2020 18: 48
            +2
            Quote: novel xnumx
            I don't even know, but things are not good at RKK Energiya, Gene, hello hi

            It seems like a lot of people get off the train ...
            1. novel66
              novel66 25 August 2020 21: 17
              +1
              and the hell is it good? the pros are critically small
  8. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 25 August 2020 09: 54
    +9
    It would be better to cut spending on the State Duma, the Federation Council and officials at all levels, including Gazprom and Rosneft. That money would be found. And they scratched the bottom of the barrel: any corrupt officials would be shaken with billionaires ...
    1. horus88
      horus88 25 August 2020 09: 57
      +5
      It is necessary that the power would become popular, not anti-people. The current ones can only do the opposite
    2. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 25 August 2020 10: 58
      +4
      Quote: Dzafdet
      It would be better to cut spending on the State Duma, the Federation Council and officials at all levels, including Gazprom and Rosneft.

      Ugums. I remember someone said that in Russia the middle class are those who have 17.000 on their nose. So set a limit for bureaucrats, of all ranks, that way 4-5-6 average incomes of the middle class. yes
  9. notingem
    notingem 25 August 2020 10: 01
    0
    As I understand it, Roskosmos will not build a new hut. Or there will be money for it
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 25 August 2020 11: 01
      +6
      They found, even an experienced person convicted of fraud was put at the head of the construction site and his team was appropriate.
      https://theins.ru/news/234083
      Employees of the subsidiary company of a large capital developer "Mosinzhproekt", which is building the National Space Center. Khrunichev, they write letters of resignation en masse due to a conflict with the new director. They insist that their salaries are unjustifiably cut and, in fact, they are forced to write resignation letters of their own free will. The construction of the space center may be on the verge of stopping. The new director, Konstantin Maslakov, was previously convicted of fraud on an especially large scale under a different name - Grigoriev.
  10. ZVS
    ZVS 25 August 2020 10: 03
    +1
    This is so that Rogozin does not paint the Khokhloma rockets.
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 25 August 2020 10: 16
      +5
      I would also cut funding for Roscosmos. within the program. Only the tasks were set by others. Do not land, but throw out. Not to the moon, but to the earth. Not from a spaceship, but from the 20th floor. And not cosmonauts, but the Kremlin shobla. Well, okay, you can first finish the muzzle on the face, under the Khokhloma.
  11. Rustam Sadriev
    Rustam Sadriev 25 August 2020 10: 05
    +1
    And what has the space industry achieved since the collapse of the USSR? Cancel full government funding. Let them come to self-sufficiency.
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 26 August 2020 23: 01
      0
      And what has the space industry achieved since the collapse of the USSR?
      and Glonass? I watched the new phone, the cheapest Samsung A20 - GPS, Glonass, that is, it is supported by world manufacturers
  12. Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 25 August 2020 10: 06
    +1
    Quote: horus88
    What other degradation will lead to a decrease in funding, if there is nowhere to degrade ... What Rogozin landing on the moon, where there. Let the satellites start up to raise the defense and that's enough for them.

    He hopes for support, RESULT where?

    He has not yet decided which rocket is needed, but he is already sad. Khrunichev has been developing the hangar for 15 years, the launch will be more expensive than the Union
    1. aristok
      aristok 25 August 2020 14: 09
      +2
      Quote: Pilat2009
      has been developing a hangar for 15 years

      more than 20 years .. everything is sadder and more revealing
  13. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 25 August 2020 10: 07
    10
    More than a trillion remains ..... and will still lead to degradation. The lack of real scientists, engineers and the space industry as a whole leads to degradation, the backlog of the USSR has exhausted itself, and there is not enough new intelligence to create.
  14. Roman246810
    Roman246810 25 August 2020 10: 10
    -2
    Rogozin noted that the cut in funding prevents the signing of a contract for the development of a heavy "Angara" with a third stage on hydrogen engines.


    Like everything that was safely cut on this before - now you can forget ??)
  15. Dikson
    Dikson 25 August 2020 10: 11
    +4
    Oh, but what about the enormous plans, so loudly promised by Mr. Rogozin? What about his rockets-cosmodromes-Burany-Angara-Eagles .. Right now, as the people start to cut in the sector of the national economy ... no moon from the other side means we will not see ..
    1. Roman246810
      Roman246810 25 August 2020 10: 15
      -1
      I think he will not forget to promise in a month ... after all, but 1,4 trillion. you have to cut it anyway ..
  16. czes
    czes 25 August 2020 10: 23
    +1
    "Further degradation" of Roscosmos is inevitable under political instructor Rogozin.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 25 August 2020 10: 29
      +3
      The main thing is that his salary does not suffer, and the rest does not matter. lol
  17. Graz
    Graz 25 August 2020 10: 31
    0
    it is high time they cut the sturgeon, and more control the costs and culture of production
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 25 August 2020 13: 33
      +1
      Quote: Graz
      it is high time they cut the sturgeon, and more control the costs and culture of production

      With such a salary, do the culture yourself
  18. Blue fox
    Blue fox 25 August 2020 10: 37
    +1
    Interesting magic of numbers. On the topic of 150 billion now, in 2020, Rogozin says that "the funding cuts prevent the signing of a contract for the development of the heavy" Angara "with the third stage on hydrogen engines" (c), and on April 23, 2015 at Vostochny, the chairman of the Scientific and Technical Council of Roscosmos Yuri Koptev said that "The cost of creating a new modification of the heavy Angara-A5 - with an oxygen-hydrogen third stage - will amount, according to Roskosmos, to 37 billion rubles. The entire rocket development program, taking into account the construction and equipping of ground infrastructure for it, will cost 150 billion." (from). Somehow in 5 years the spread of the ogoshenka-ogogo!
  19. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 25 August 2020 10: 50
    0
    Or maybe Rogozin's salary should be reduced by 150 lard? And we will find money for space, and it will be healthier ...
  20. akshor
    akshor 25 August 2020 11: 00
    0
    With such an effective manager ... no wonder
  21. Gunther
    Gunther 25 August 2020 11: 03
    +2
    this is from an anecdote when the little boy asks: "Mom, dad will drink less now? No son, you will eat less."
    The Pope in this case is the Kremlin's oligarchic camarilla and their Chaldeans.
  22. arhitroll
    arhitroll 25 August 2020 11: 07
    +2
    This is the strategy of gas pipeline managers
    1. Varyag71
      Varyag71 25 August 2020 11: 16
      0
      This is the purposeful destruction of us as a nation, as a country.
  23. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 25 August 2020 11: 09
    0
    Rogozin noted that funding cuts do not allow signing contract for the development of the heavy "Angara" with the third stage on hydrogen engines.

    Something does not give me the right to say:

    Roskosmos plans to start implementing the Unified State Space Program for 2021-2030 from the beginning of next year. Within the framework of this program, it is planned creation of a super-heavy rocket, the lunar program, the Sphere grouping, the development of GLONASS, etc.

    And here it is also incomparable:

    No.
  24. Kuzmich Sibiryakov
    Kuzmich Sibiryakov 25 August 2020 11: 32
    +2
    And rightly so. There are a lot of plans, a scattering of funds for dozens of programs of the stupidest content from the Buran's revival, (can we really not learn in the Shuttle lessons ???) reusable tricks, idiocy in pursuit of fashionable crap. Conduct a cruel audit, drive motorists and a journalist out of rocketry, jail idlers and outright thieves. Choose especially urgently needed. We can't live without Glonass. We will not survive without communication and intelligence. This is both military and civilian. What have we forgotten on the moon? We hang out like shit in an ice-hole from one stunning superheavy project to another, beyond comfortable ships. I can't remember all the names. Will the moon run away from us somewhere? Can't wait for better financial times?
    1. Nikolay1987
      Nikolay1987 25 August 2020 12: 41
      0
      Quote: Kuzmich Sibiryakov
      Can't wait for better financial times?

      Time, experience and the laws of capitalism suggest that there are no such times.
      1. Kuzmich Sibiryakov
        Kuzmich Sibiryakov 25 August 2020 12: 57
        +4
        Quote: Nikolay1987
        Quote: Kuzmich Sibiryakov
        Can't wait for better financial times?

        Time, experience and the laws of capitalism suggest that there are no such times.

        You don't understand anything about these things. That which is paid attention in the first place always develops. Economic laws work the same everywhere. The only difference is in the amount of stupid voluntarism in the economy. Only the state, with a monopoly on all possibilities, can drive any economic situation into a dead end. Since management is carried out by people who do not depend on the result of their labor, but only on the benevolence of the boss. The Soviet trade unions were the place of exile for the thieving losers. Only in the USSR were they able to ditch the fabulously rich Samotlor deposit. We produced about 30% of all oil, and Rockefeller up to 70%. He BOUGHT the deposit, which was a rarity even for him, because of the high cost, and our Ministry received the deposit for free. He pumped oil out following the oil production rate, and we drove the plan into that state. when the flow rate (entering the well from the formation) was less than the pumped one. Air bubbles interrupted pumping for good. Rockefeller CURE, if this happened, with hot water, steam, paraffin solvents, pumping it into the well. Ruin = buy a new one. And here they walked on, drilled a new well, reporting along the way, in meters and kilometers. Honda built its motorcycle factory for 9 months. We have been building AvtoVAZ for 10 years. Not a single one in the world, except us, has ruined the virgin lands, plowing up the semi-desert, destroying millions of herds of the small slingshot, and ruining the earth with salt marshes. They sang songs about a one-stop record harvest. And, after all, this is 16 centners per hectare.
        This year we have 55 centners per hectare. And, after all, we do not have full-fledged capitalism. God knows what a wild market. With state suffocating pressure on everyone and everything.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 25 August 2020 14: 48
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          Quote: Kuzmich Sibiryakov
          Honda built its motorcycle factory for 9 months. We have been building AvtoVAZ for 10 years.

          We compared a cucumber to a finger. And not 10 years, but 7.

          Quote: Kuzmich Sibiryakov
          Not a single one in the world, except us, has ruined the virgin lands, plowing up the semi-desert, destroying millions of herds of the small slingshot, and ruining the earth with salt marshes.

          The Americans have destroyed the bison, are destroying the ecology by extracting shale oil, the Chinese have shot all the sparrows with slingshots. Smart too?
          Quote: Kuzmich Sibiryakov
          16 centners per hectare.
          This year we have 55 centners per hectare.

          Find out what class of grain we are growing, and then throw your hat into the sky.
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            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 25 August 2020 17: 29
              0
              Quote: Vadim237
              Honda now makes a net $ 4 billion a year Avtovaz 9 billion rubles

              Honda has a lot of factories in other countries, not some motorcycle factory.
              1. Kuzmich Sibiryakov
                Kuzmich Sibiryakov 25 August 2020 21: 26
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                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                Quote: Vadim237
                Honda now makes a net $ 4 billion a year Avtovaz 9 billion rubles

                Honda has a lot of factories in other countries, not some motorcycle factory.

                And what do you mean by that? What does he build several times for 9 months? And how many times have we built the unnecessary for 10 years? At least BAM.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 25 August 2020 21: 32
                  0
                  Quote: Kuzmich Sibiryakov
                  And what do you mean by that?

                  The fact that Avtovaz did not exploit the workers of hypothetical Mongolia for its own profit. The first Chinese Automobile Plant was built by specialists
                2. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 25 August 2020 21: 32
                  0
                  Quote: Kuzmich Sibiryakov
                  And what do you mean by that?

                  The fact that Avtovaz did not exploit the workers of hypothetical Mongolia for its own profit. The first Chinese Automobile Plant was built by specialists from the USSR and it works well under state control.
          2. Kuzmich Sibiryakov
            Kuzmich Sibiryakov 25 August 2020 21: 11
            0
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Quote: Kuzmich Sibiryakov
            Honda built its motorcycle factory for 9 months. We have been building AvtoVAZ for 10 years.

            We compared a cucumber to a finger. And not 10 years, but 7.

            Quote: Kuzmich Sibiryakov
            Not a single one in the world, except us, has ruined the virgin lands, plowing up the semi-desert, destroying millions of herds of the small slingshot, and ruining the earth with salt marshes.

            The Americans have destroyed the bison, are destroying the ecology by extracting shale oil, the Chinese have shot all the sparrows with slingshots. Smart too?
            Quote: Kuzmich Sibiryakov
            16 centners per hectare.
            This year we have 55 centners per hectare.

            Find out what class of grain we are growing, and then throw your hat into the sky.

            The difference is great. For 7 years, obsolete equipment has stood, requires maintenance, protection, buildings and structures. Loot is frozen, spent, but there is no income. 7 years. Until the last machine is debugged. If you knew, had an idea of ​​what it is, MONEY. This is the equivalent of labor. The salary has been paid, according to statistics, it is approximately equal to 12% of the value of the product (plant). Millions on hand. But you can't buy anything with them. There is no car, the budget spent money on a plant that has not been working for 7 years, but people want to eat every day and three times, at least, a day.
            We have destroyed a lot ... Tell me, can a state-owned enterprise be fined for the environment, for example, by a billion? A million? And for a hundred rubles? Tell me, from the fact that BUDGET BUDGETS will be transferred from one pocket of the BUDGET to another, who will win and who will lose? The PRIVATEER pays his dough. And can go broke for the release of oil in no time. But the state bandit who did the same goes bankrupt?
            By the way, the Chinese did this feat at the direction of comrade MAO. True, these birds had to be bought for foreign currency in capital countries.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 25 August 2020 21: 25
              +1
              Quote: Kuzmich Sibiryakov
              The difference is great. For 7 years, obsolete equipment has stood, requires maintenance, protection, buildings and structures. Loot is frozen, spent, but there is no income. 7 years.

              Avtovaz was officially accepted after the release of a million cars. And the first batch left the assembly line three years after the start of construction. And - from scratch. The Chinese have been building in Uzlovaya for 5 years, for 25 thousand cars this year.
        2. Beringovsky
          Beringovsky 31 August 2020 12: 00
          +1
          This is nonsense! belay
          Haven't seen anything like it for a long time. Where have you read this ?!
  25. Angelo Provolone
    Angelo Provolone 25 August 2020 11: 33
    +3
    you cannot steal and master the moon.
  26. pereselenec
    pereselenec 25 August 2020 11: 53
    -3
    According to Rogozin, the space program has been cut by 150 billion rubles to date. At the same time, another reduction in space programs is not excluded due to the fall in federal budget revenues.


    But what about the blessed sanctions? request


  27. Nikolay1987
    Nikolay1987 25 August 2020 12: 38
    +3
    Q.E.D. Gas station country
  28. Bomb
    Bomb 25 August 2020 13: 28
    0
    Quote: pereselenec
    Breakthrough

    To be precise - a breakout.
  29. Interlocutor
    Interlocutor 25 August 2020 13: 31
    0
    It seems to me that soon we will hear that Mr. Rogozin will move "horizontally" somewhere, and Roscosmos will have the next head. (This is purely my opinion).
  30. Yurahip
    Yurahip 25 August 2020 13: 39
    +1
    It's good that now the salary is being transferred to the card, otherwise you can imagine, the general brought the salary home ... in a sack, in bills, two cannot raise it!
  31. slipped
    slipped 25 August 2020 13: 42
    -4
    Wow, the scavengers on the couch rushed to the words taken out of the context of the interview. laughing

    somehow missed that:

    Rogozin: "The contract will be signed when funding is confirmed. We must finish in autumn all negotiations with the Ministry of Finance. The financing parameters of the Federal Space Program until 2025 must be provided in accordance with its passport. According to the passport, the FKP should total 2025 trillion 1 billion rubles by 406, but in reality it has already been cut by 150 billion rubles. And that's not counting the alleged sequestration of space programs, which is associated with a drop in federal budget revenues.

    Therefore, I will defend the main positions of the Federal Space Program, where the transition of the more powerful Angara from the East to the third hydrogen stage is prescribed. This will dramatically increase the power of this rocket. "

    Meanwhile, in Plesetsk, preparations are underway for the second launch as part of the flight design tests of the Angara-A5 rocket. Launching in November.

    1. Brancodd
      Brancodd 25 August 2020 20: 48
      0
      Therefore, I will defend the main positions of the Federal Space Program
      Rather, it is an appeal to the president. He has the last word. If he is silent, then Siluanov (Kudrin) will cut off. Now it will be a shame, because the plan is quite realistic ...
  32. aristok
    aristok 25 August 2020 14: 05
    +6
    Now there will be an excuse for canceling all projects, "almost done, but then the accountant's wings were clipped, covidla again - everything is serious ... otherwise uhhhh ..".
    The purposeful sabotage of the Russian space program has been going on for 30 years.
    The civil aviation industry was completely ruined, and in space they leave visibility so that their activities would not be striking at all.
  33. Arthur 85
    Arthur 85 25 August 2020 14: 17
    -2
    But why report it? To give the ill-wishers a reason to rejoice?
    1. Brancodd
      Brancodd 25 August 2020 15: 50
      +1
      No, not for that. The Ministry of Finance wants to triple the reduction of the space program. The government meeting will be in September. Making the discussion public is an instrument of pressure on the Ministry of Finance.
      1. Arthur 85
        Arthur 85 25 August 2020 18: 25
        0
        Sorry, this should be brought to the level of the Prime Minister and the President, and not to the public space. This is not a Maidan ... And if the country's leadership believes that space spending should be reduced, then it should be reduced. If you need to cut the Ministry of Finance (very tempting), that's fine too. And if the leadership of Roscosmos appeals to the media, this is strange.
        1. Brancodd
          Brancodd 26 August 2020 19: 21
          0
          In the last discussion (2.5 years ago), when discussing the program until 2025, the decisive word remained, but the president defended funding, and even increased it. Krikalev told about this. But there are nuances. The increase was due to the presidential fund. This is special. a fund that does not depend on the budget. The same source is used to finance the development of PD-35, ID-96-400 and a number of FPI programs. Translated into Russian, this means an uneven power structure. The vertical is not omnipotent and the president has limited influence over budget planning.
          1. Arthur 85
            Arthur 85 26 August 2020 22: 14
            0
            Well, naturally. There is what we want and what we can. Incl. and the president. It's just that if a different priority is now chosen, and Roskosmos could not convince the leadership not to do this, it means that we must follow the order, and on camera we "smile and wave", depicting the unity of power, and that everything is going the way it should be ... it turns out, as a couple of years ago with the Central Bank: "The Central Bank announced that it is going to buy back the currency" - the newspapers write. The dollar jumped up at once, "winning back" this news. And the budget lost several million. Did someone answer for this? It's a strange question ... no one even asked it. You have to do it silently, especially things like cutting costs.
  34. Maalkavianin
    Maalkavianin 25 August 2020 14: 37
    0
    In my opinion, it's time to send Serdyukov there to ruin everything. And already on the collapsed to create that Rosskosmos that meets modern requirements and, most importantly, opportunities.
  35. Brancodd
    Brancodd 25 August 2020 15: 48
    +2
    Roscosmos budget is $ 3 billion. In 2017, funding for the space program was cut in half.
    In 2017, NASA expenditures amounted to $ 18,1 billion. Total US budget expenditures amounted to $ 47,5 billion. That is 13 times more than Russia’s expenses.
    EKA European Space Agency has a budget 4 times the budget of Roscosmos.
  36. Whisk
    Whisk 25 August 2020 17: 26
    0
    How much joy do some have here? And again whining, everything was gone, etc.
    1. Brancodd
      Brancodd 25 August 2020 20: 44
      0
      This site has a familiar environment. It is necessary to make allowances for the "experts" from Ukraine and the Baltic states, and of simply hysterical characters.
      1. Victorio
        Victorio 26 August 2020 11: 03
        0
        Quote: Brancodd
        It is necessary to make allowances for "experts" from Ukraine and the Baltic states

        ===
        "Cossacks" are simply more active. well, not all are sent). I, for example, am also from the Baltic States
  37. Iskazi
    Iskazi 26 August 2020 03: 43
    0
    at least they will cut less, but they will cut more angrily.
  38. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 27 August 2020 07: 34
    0
    Unpatriotic, but PAFIG. Less will be stolen ... others will steal - a carousel.
  39. Eula
    Eula 27 August 2020 07: 37
    0
    It is necessary to steal less in a crisis - definitely!