Sanction games. And in counter-sanctions

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Where bribes are not taken ...


The head of the Rosselkhoznadzor Sergey Dankvert recently called for "to develop a system for tracking illegal deliveries of agricultural raw materials and finished food to Russia from countries included in the sanctions register." According to him, such redelivery through the EAEU "is carried out by practically all the partner countries of Russia in the EAEU, primarily by" renaming "the supplying country."

Here it is necessary to clarify, about which the majority of readers actually have an idea almost from the very beginning of the sanctions war. So, a product from, say, Norway or Germany is “glued” into Armenian, Kazakh or Belarusian and then imported into the Russian Federation.



It is worth recalling that the notorious Belarusian shrimp has nothing to do with it, since the union republic has quite real legal quotas for fishing in the Russian (and not only) seas. But Mr. Dankvert believes that it is necessary to confiscate not only the sanctioned products themselves, but also vehicles transporting such products:

"These deliveries can be overcome when each carrier understands that if he undertakes to carry illegal products, his car and goods can be confiscated."

But will such measures help?

The Federal Customs Service of Russia, the Eurasian Economic Commission, many Russian and foreign media regularly report on the receipt of sanctions in the Russian Federation both through the EAEU countries and through the aforementioned countries and territories. Of course, with the participation of Russian trade business.

Back on January 20, 2020, that is, before the pandemic and quarantine, the head of the Belarusian customs, Yuri Senko, said:

“The bulk of the sanctioned products that enter Russia from the territory of Belarus are imported by the Russians themselves. We continue to toughly work out the issues of illegal movement of sanctioned products across the Belarusian border. More than 600 administrative protocols were drawn up over the past year. In most cases, these are violators from Russia. ”

The official explained that “they buy imported products in Belarus, and then, using forged documents, including supposedly Belarusian products, they try to transport them to Russia. Thus, Russian violators "substitute" Belarusian producers. " It is characteristic that the aforementioned was not refuted by the relevant departments of the Russian Federation.

Four factors against growth


There are several interrelated factors that predetermine the situation when the actual volume of Russian imports of agricultural raw materials and ready-made food for the past year has turned out to be at least a quarter more than officially registered.

And this, according to expert assessments of the relevant departments of the Russian Federation and the structures of the EAEU, which are based not only on official customs statistics, but also on data from companies engaged in foreign trade operations.

Sanction games. And in counter-sanctions

First, the other EAEU countries are not participating in the sanctions duel between Russia and the West, although the situation with Belarus is about to change. This in itself "guarantees" the import, or rather, the re-export of the sanction.

Such a strange situation in the EAEU is, first of all, a question of the bloc's viability, whether it has its real levers to ensure a coordinated foreign trade policy of the participating countries.

But it seems that this issue has not been resolved. Or unsolvable? It is characteristic that the Western countries did not extend their sanctions to these countries, and they, in turn, did not join the Russian counter-sanctions.

Secondly, within the framework of the EAEU, since the beginning of the 2010s, a duty-free tariff regime or a regime of minimum (no more than 4%) tariffs on imports of agricultural products from developing and least developed countries has been in effect (confirmed on May 27, 2020).

In general, according to the UN and EAEU register, there are over eighty. At the same time, at least three-quarters of them are in the status of associated EU members or there is a free trade regime with the EU and the USA.

Thirdly, since the beginning of the 2010s, the same preferential trade regime in the EAEU has also included ... almost all of the numerous autonomous territories of the USA and EU countries located in other regions of the world. For example, this list of "beneficiaries" includes the Caribbean and Atlantic islands of Great Britain, the Caribbean islands of Holland, the Pacific protectorates of the United States (Micronesia, Marshall Islands, Palau). Also, autonomous from Denmark Greenland with the Faroes, as well as Serbia, North Macedonia, miniature countries of Europe (Andorra, San Marino, Monaco) do not participate in the sanctions duel.

Fourthly, in the FCS register, Russia's trading partners include the territories of Norway (Spitsbergen, Jan Mayen, Bouvet), not even autonomous, as well as Australia (Heard Islands, Rozhdestvenstva), overseas departments of France (for more details see: russian-trade .com).

Separate policy, business separately


In short, there are numerous geographic and legal loopholes in sanctions and counter-sanctions between Russia and the West, due to obvious geopolitical factors. And also the fact that economically both parties cannot be interested in punctual compliance with mutual sanctions and in breaking trade ties.

In any case, the EU's share in Russian imports still exceeds 30%. Therefore, it is quite understandable that, firstly, sanctioned food products of the West are still in a wide assortment on Russian counters, especially in Moscow and St. Petersburg supermarkets.


Moreover, it is presented with a marking confirming its production both in sanctioned countries and in transit-re-export countries / territories. Even under sanctions and even under strict quarantine, Russia and the European Union, it turns out, are interested in developing mutual trade and expanding its range.

And this was announced quite officially on more than one occasion. For example, in Moscow on July 15, 2020, during a meeting between the head of the Ministry of Economic Development of the Russian Federation Maxim Reshetnikov and the EU Ambassador to Russia Markus Erder.

Both sides did not fail to remind that “they are interested in resuming a high-level dialogue between the RF and the EU on trade and economic policy. And we agreed that free trade and investment will contribute to the growth of the economies of Russia and the EU ”(see. "Free trade and investment will contribute to economic growth in Russia and the EU").

It is characteristic that Minister Reshetnikov did not even mention the issue of importing the European Union sanctioning system into the Russian Federation. Not for nothing, of course ...

The food embargo was introduced by the decree of the President of the Russian Federation V. Putin dated August 6, 2014 against countries that have introduced or supported anti-Russian sanctions. At first, it applied to agricultural products from the USA, EU, Australia, Norway, Canada (and partly New Zealand). Since August 13, 2015, Albania, Montenegro, Iceland, Liechtenstein, which have joined the anti-Russian sanctions, have been included in the list of these countries, and since January 1, 2016 - Ukraine.

The embargo includes meat and meat products, milk and dairy products, fish and fish products, vegetables, fruits and their processed products. Since October 27, 2017, live pigs (with the exception of purebred breeding animals), by-products, animal fat and animal oils have been included in the list of prohibited products. However, there is no question of any absence of these goods on Russian counters today.
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  1. +2
    25 August 2020 05: 23
    So the capitalists need profit.
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    2. -9
      25 August 2020 07: 19
      You also need profit - after all, you live on some kind of income (you sell your labor or products). If you make a profit, it means a capitalist. Or are you sitting on someone else's neck?
      1. +4
        25 August 2020 07: 57
        That the sanctions ... I read how one native of Russia, living in the United States, decided to open an interesting business in Russia. He emigrated in the 90s and remembering how badly life was then for disadvantaged people, he decided to help them in a sense. The idea was this: to build euro hangars, to import expired products from stores there, where Uzbeks would sort, sort, repackage, etc., and then everything would be sold at bargain prices to the population who would bring the axle back and forth from the metro by free buses. To avoid the ban on the sale of expired products, this was all called "Goods for animals and for processing". However, nothing came of this venture. He was very surprised, but there were no expired products in Russian stores, except for the already frank rot, which can no longer be re-sold after "cosmetic" treatment and cleaning. Draw your own conclusions.
        1. +5
          25 August 2020 08: 01
          Quote: Snail N9
          Draw your own conclusions.

          It's a funny story, of course such a business will not work for us, our delay is hung up on the store staff and in order not to pay, they re-stick the labels and sell them as fresh ..
          1. +5
            25 August 2020 08: 29
            And not only in stores, but also at the bases.
            1. +3
              25 August 2020 08: 30
              Quote: Pereira
              And not only in stores, but also at the bases.

              And this practice is widespread not only at the bases, even at production sites.
              1. +3
                25 August 2020 09: 09
                "this practice is common even in production"
                Quite right. At one time he worked in the production of consumer goods, shampoos, detergents, etc. The old date was erased, the new one was printed. Called - "life extension"
                1. +4
                  25 August 2020 09: 20
                  All these sanctions are lies:
                  1. The ruble grows, takes the euro in number and skill. A little more and already as much as 100 patriots rubles will be for one beggar euro.
                  2. The West will soon die from our food embargo.
                  3. We are not afraid of sanctions for Belarus and Disastrous Lechaim! We will tighten our belts and respect United Russia even more.
                  4. It's not a shame to be a beggar, it's a shame not to love the State Duma. Who day and night comes up with anti-sanction taxes for our own benefit.
          2. -3
            25 August 2020 08: 53
            Not far from me, a store with expired Beer has been operating for years. at the Cooperative market in Krasnodar. In the very center. It was incredibly popular.
            In general, the situation with packaging and storage has changed .... it is better to give some products to low-income segments of the population (not all types, of course). Someone has nothing, and someone is disposing of good food.
            1. +4
              25 August 2020 09: 01
              Quote: Zaurbek
              In general, the situation with packaging and storage has changed .... it is better to give some products to low-income segments of the population (not all types, of course). Someone has nothing, and someone is disposing of good food.

              The misallocation of resources and goods is capitalism. Someone is late, and someone else throws out normal products .. a bunch of people parasitize on the natural resources of the country and go to the golden toilet bowls, and the bulk barely makes ends meet .. In total, all this will lead to social upheaval and the extinction of the population. What we actually observe.
              1. -5
                25 August 2020 09: 02
                And under socialism, demand exceeds supply. On the other hand, the same "bulk" comes up with laws when it is necessary to dispose of suitable products .... and writes complaints. So they will be disposed of.
            2. -1
              25 August 2020 09: 08
              Quote: Zaurbek
              Someone has nothing, but someone disposes of good food

              The other day I watched on TV a report of a Spanish journalist from the streets of Madrid (they were in Spain).
              In the evening, the film crew walked through small shops, which, a couple of hours before closing, clean the counters from delays and vegetables and products that have lost their presentation.
              And what do you think? There is no pandemonium, but many well-dressed women literally woolen boxes and boxes, stuffed their bags and bags with expired and withered vegetables, not at all embarrassed by this.
              One pensioner, according to which, after paying taxes and payments, he has 235 euros a month to live on (there was a word-for-word translation), literally dined from a garbage can, where watermelons cut into a quarter were thrown. And he even treated the journalist.
              The report was closed by a story with a young man who, according to him, never buys food, but collects them near the garbage cans of grocery stores. Enough for him, and the Evan dog. They are still happy ..
              fellow
              1. -2
                25 August 2020 09: 27
                And we had squeals, when the sanctions were introduced ... sometimes people did not have enough Parmesan, then oysters ...
                1. +1
                  25 August 2020 09: 39
                  Quote: Zaurbek
                  And we had squeals, when the sanctions were introduced ... sometimes people did not have enough Parmesan, then oysters ...

                  But what about ...
                  The spiritual sister of Lyosha the grass-roots, the current spouse of Bogomolov, was wringing her hands in grief from the absence of her favorite Bellona oysters. And without a ham, there is no life. And the gishpants - won, do not disdain rotten and withered watermelons.
                  laughing
                2. +7
                  25 August 2020 11: 04
                  Quote: Zaurbek
                  And we had squeals, when the sanctions were introduced ... sometimes people did not have enough Parmesan, then oysters ...

                  In 2014, in Kirov (and there prices were higher than in Moscow, for food) I bought cheese at 280-350. Yesterday, in a magnet, cheese products from 550 lay. And cheese from 700-750 like, did not look closely. So yes, with the increase in prices 2,5-3 times, the same cheese began to be eaten several times less, now there will be enough for everyone ... And if the price is still inflated, just like that by 2-3 ... we will become milk. Yes
            3. +2
              25 August 2020 09: 32
              When I lost my job, my brother-in-law worked at a tea-packing factory. So he told how "tea" is "made" here. It is "doing". They bring "raw materials" in bags from somewhere from Turkey, China, Bangladesh, etc. - all this is poured into the bunker, where it is processed, sifted out by size and fractions, if necessary, it is crushed and goes to sorting lines, where from it with the help of cleaning and sifting through calibration sieves, as well as changing humidity and heat treatment followed by spraying with the necessary flavorings, "different" varieties and brands of tea, including "elite" ones, are made ... and all from one "bag". And the remaining garbage-dust is "granulated" into a "princess" (such a cheap brand) ...
              1. +1
                25 August 2020 09: 51
                Dust goes into bags
                1. +1
                  25 August 2020 09: 58
                  And in sachets. Yes
              2. +1
                25 August 2020 09: 52
                Quote: Snail N9
                also by changing humidity and heat treatment, followed by spraying with the necessary flavors, "different" sorts and brands of tea, including "elite" ones, are made ... and all from one "bag

                The process of "creating" tea of ​​a certain grade from a certain brand is, first of all, in the technology of fermentation of tea leaves, as it is written. Its strength and taste depend on this. Hence the "discrepancies" - the initial raw material is one, but the output is three or four varieties from each of the five or six producers.
                The best tea can be bought in good old England, where the leaders are Yorkshire. In addition, the popular varieties Tetly, Ty-Phoo, PG. But the most branded is Twining. A 100 gram pack of Twining loose leaf tea costs the same as 2 packs from Yorkshire, 3-4 packs from Ty-Phoo, or 5-6 packs from an unknown brand. Lipton in England is on the level of our Princesses of Dury, Java, etc.
                1. +1
                  25 August 2020 10: 02
                  90% of the tea we drink is imported from China and the better one is India and Ceylon .. Packaged and mixed in Russia. leaf fermentable and not in higher grades, fines and dust in sachets ..
                2. +3
                  25 August 2020 10: 06
                  Well, well, it turns out, everything is within the framework of "TU", without "crime" ... Yes, but ... - tea turns out to be not "grapes" for you ... From one bag of raw materials it turns out to be quite legal, so many varieties and make some brands of tea ... I didn't know. Thanks for the info.
                  1. +2
                    25 August 2020 10: 16
                    By the way, an acquaintance even before kovid brought from Azerbaijan pressed green tea. This is something! I drink, I still enjoy, I save, I stretch my pleasure ... Because of Kovid, the border with Azerbaijan is closed, it is not known when it will be opened ... sad
                  2. 0
                    25 August 2020 10: 30
                    If there is no link to the "Geography of cultivation", then yes ...
                3. -1
                  25 August 2020 11: 55
                  A good and affordable black tea in Russia is Beta Tee. It is quite drawn to Orange Pekoe Edvansed - OPA. The tea casts are very large.
                  Compared to a Ceylon OPA purchased from the Blue Field factory. That is of course even better and the leaves are even larger. But again, Beta Tee has a pretty decent quality.
                4. 0
                  26 August 2020 18: 54
                  I'll tell you about tea in China.
                  For comparison.
                  A dinner in a mid-range restaurant (without annoying pomp) with vodka, with 6 dishes for 4 people costs an average of 200 RMB (yuan).
                  Translated at the then exchange rate of about 1000 rubles.
                  He was invited by the Chinese to a tea restaurant.
                  A kettle of tea (0.5 l) and a couple of plates of some dried sweets cost 500 RMB (yuan).
                  I was shocked.

                  They told me about 40 minutes from which mountain and how many leaves they collected.
                5. 0
                  28 August 2020 04: 57
                  connoisseur of teas ..., they are all g ... oh, all the brands listed ..., there is no good tea there, tourists x ... s ..., victims of advertising, or something else ...
                  1. 0
                    28 August 2020 09: 27
                    Close your mouth.
            4. 0
              25 August 2020 22: 50
              Quote: Zaurbek
              Not far from me, a store with expired Beer has been operating for years. at the Cooperative market in Krasnodar. In the very center. It was incredibly popular.
              In general, the situation with packaging and storage has changed .... it is better to give some products to low-income segments of the population (not all types, of course). Someone has nothing, and someone is disposing of good food.

              Where is Krasnodar, and here is Krasnoyarsk-meat-EVERYTHING-here in abundance ..... With vegetables here ..... The Kyrgyz supply, everything is there ....... Not dolyary, RUBLES HERE in the price ... ..
          3. -5
            25 August 2020 10: 43
            I would very much like to see how this can happen. you seem to be stuck 20 years in the past. How can expired goods be hung on the team? and most importantly why? any product is supplied and controlled primarily by its dealers and distributors. I didn’t get stuck at all that our brands could roll in the mud. any such scandal knocks sales very hard. when the deadlines begin to go out, the implementers expose hundreds of programs at a discount. and the shorter the shelf life, the more options. in any trading network red and yellow price tags are hung up for a reason. no one in their right mind will sell expired goods. one call to the supervision and you will simply be destroyed by checks and scandals. I recently ordered birthday cakes. delivered. and one of them was not even overdue. they just violated the technology. Prague in my opinion with meringue. a bunch of fatty cream without taste. it is impossible to eat. I just called with a complaint and they pinned me two more expensive cakes for this situation. as a gift. now any seller is fighting for his image. because one blogger can fill up an entire business with his videos in just a week. supervision by inspections. the prosecutor's office business. and you are telling some stories from the nineties.
            1. 0
              25 August 2020 18: 39
              any seller beats

              Vendors (chains) do not know how to preserve ordinary vegetables and fruits on a large scale, for which you need to have refrigerated shelves in the hall (like for milk) and refrigerated, moisture-controlled storage rooms or chambers for stores and chambers for machine washing and drying before displaying ... Today I was at the opening of a multi-storey supermarket built from scratch, on a separate site, and in the vegetable section there is an ordinary picture, although the roof and the back wall of the building are hung with industrial chillers and the ceilings are air-conditioned - that is, there is industrial cold in the building from the very beginning. This suggests that the chains do not have expert checking experts with experience and education of commodity experts, independent of specific stores, do not generalize and do not transmit the results of checks to construction designers and builders with a request to eliminate them using construction methods; do not consult with specialists in food storage - otherwise there would be no such problems and such cameras and cargo elevators and much more would be provided in the building.
              Sometimes you can see an even more sad picture - potatoes "from the fields": not just dirty, but in half with giant clods of earth. Dirty potatoes - this means that the wholesaler saved and bought such potatoes for incompetent retail directly from the piles at the storage sites of the vegetable warehouse, without having carried out its pre-release processing at the vegetable warehouse on a special line for sorting, cleaning, washing, drying and polishing potatoes.
          4. 0
            25 August 2020 12: 35
            Danone: From 2002 to 2013, an exclusive distributor. If the mail arrived, they destroyed it.
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        3. +1
          25 August 2020 16: 29
          Snail N9 Old anecdote
          Letter to the newspaper Pravda: comrades, you are writing that in Africa negros do not eat up, send us - we will finish
      2. -4
        25 August 2020 10: 21
        You have no idea about capitalism and profit, check it out or is it banned from Google?
      3. 0
        25 August 2020 15: 26
        I have never read more nonsense. This is about what every capitalist is.
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  3. +5
    25 August 2020 06: 12
    Quote: Pessimist22
    So the capitalists need profit.

    Igor - If you want to kill, shoot, if you don't want to, don't shoot! laughing

    And on the subject of cars and it can be just hired carriers, which can simply be substituted .. maybe it is better to pay attention to the customers of the contraband? If you already decided to fight
    1. 0
      25 August 2020 12: 42
      I agree that the carrier is not responsible, it is necessary to punish those who buy and pay for transportation from point A to Russia.
  4. +3
    25 August 2020 06: 15
    Sanctions, sanctions, business, business ... and nothing personal .. smile
  5. +3
    25 August 2020 06: 16
    ... confiscate not only the sanctioned products themselves, but also vehicles transporting such products

    And how is a third-party carrier supposed to guess that it is the sanctioned vehicle that is carrying?
    Organize your own investigation department?
    A very strange proposal that creates the basis for arbitrariness and corruption.
    1. -1
      25 August 2020 06: 24
      Idiocy! As if the smugglers would risk their wagons! And a rat with a Russian flag, something you misunderstood in the morning?
      1. +2
        25 August 2020 06: 32
        Yes, the hint is transparent about the reason and consequences of the imposition of sanctions.
        For some reason, Serbia is also listed in the paragraph about the autonomous territories of the EU and the USA
      2. +5
        25 August 2020 07: 11
        Quote: ASAD
        And a rat with a Russian flag, something you misunderstood in the morning?

        And what is incomprehensible here, the author directly pointed out that most of the sanctions with a re-glued label are brought from Belarus by Russian entrepreneurs.
        But here then all this is imputed to Lukashenka. hi
  6. +13
    25 August 2020 06: 24
    You can go further. For example, to close shops selling sanctioned goods, or even destroy them. Can be punished
    rubles buying such products, and with an enema - who managed to eat such.
    1. +4
      25 August 2020 06: 45
      Who ate to jail for violations of the sanctions regime.
    2. +3
      25 August 2020 06: 56
      Quote: A. Privalov
      For example, to close stores selling sanctioned goods,

      There is (it was at the legislative level) a proposal to force retail outlets to accept glass containers and ensure the recycling of plastic containers that have flooded all counters, and not just make a profit in a short time.
      1. -2
        25 August 2020 07: 04
        Glass containers have nothing to do with the topic of sanctioned goods. As for the law requiring such to be adopted, then the laws, the implementation of which no one monitors, or it is impossible to keep track of, should not even be adopted.
        1. 0
          25 August 2020 15: 34
          It is possible to enforce laws, but not interesting.
  7. HAM
    +6
    25 August 2020 06: 29
    There is only one way to deal with this - to sell the confiscated sanctioning system (and not destroy), for example, two times cheaper than the face value, well, who after that would want to carry the goods more ...
    1. 0
      25 August 2020 07: 05
      Quote: HAM
      to sell the confiscated sanctioning device (and not destroy), for example, twice cheaper than the face value,


      All the confiscated "sanction" will go to trade networks through other hands ... wassat
  8. 0
    25 August 2020 06: 38
    This issue should have been dealt with at least 10 years ago, especially on the part of our brother Luke.
    1. +6
      25 August 2020 07: 13
      Quote: Ros 56
      especially by our brother Luke.

      We imposed the sanctions, but should Luka follow? belay
      1. +1
        25 August 2020 07: 16
        Ours should monitor that shrimps from the Belarusian sea are not supplied, and of everything else - ham, apples, and so on and so forth.
        1. +4
          25 August 2020 07: 33
          The author explained about the shrimp. Of course, the volumes should be matched by our specialized services. Which is absolutely not being done now.
          1. +4
            25 August 2020 09: 11
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            The author explained about the shrimp. Of course, the volumes should be matched by our specialized services. Which is absolutely not being done now.

            The author simply put a part of the hurray-patriotic public in a puddle, who believed that the Belarusian seafood on our counters is such a handout to the neighbors. But it turns out that everything is legal fellow
            1. +1
              25 August 2020 09: 24
              Quote: Stirbjorn
              The author simply put a part of the hurray-patriotic public in a puddle, who believed that the Belarusian seafood on our counters is such a handout to the neighbors. But it turns out that everything is legal

              Here it is necessary to look at the volumes - how much is allowed for catch according to quotas and how much is actually exported. Otherwise, it can turn out like with Belarusian apples, when exports exceeded their own production by four times.
  9. -1
    25 August 2020 06: 40
    Can the driver who loaded boxes with goods according to the accompanying documents really determine that he was given an authorization for transportation? No, he can not. But he can really be left without a car.
  10. +3
    25 August 2020 06: 43
    from January 1, 2016 - Ukraine.
    And two years after the start of the war in Donbass, everyone wondered whether or not it was worth it, and what if the "brotherly" Ukrainian people would suffer? If at our side, an openly hostile country still cannot answer economically as expected, then what can we say about the USA, EU, Australia, Norway, Canada ...
  11. +6
    25 August 2020 06: 43
    Only a very specific ... uncle can organize the mass import of sanctioned vehicles! If someone from them can get a good fuck from this business, then there will be such ... nothing, in general, new.
  12. +3
    25 August 2020 06: 53
    "These deliveries can be overcome when each carrier understands that if he undertakes to carry illegal products, his car and goods can be confiscated."

    Here, for stormy activity (as well as for its imitation), the field is not plowed. Only this is the peculiarity: to deprive Russia of goods that are not produced in it, are in insufficient quantities or cannot be all-season (like vegetables and fruits, for example), simply THE CRIME!!! It is a different matter when it comes to goods and products that do not meet the requirements of safety and normal life. Russia is not a dump for cheap industrial and food waste to meet the needs of the "middle class".
    Here it is more pragmatic to take care of control over the export of irreplaceable and long-term renewable resources. See what we get for real natural resources and what we get in return.
    1. 0
      25 August 2020 15: 41
      And it is better to rebuild the fence again, returning the prodigals to their place (with the exception of Central Asia, well, their ballast and Balts) and provide for everyone themselves. We have received enough technology from the bourgeoisie, it is quite possible to produce our own consumer goods. Well, to "be friends" with China about what is missing.
      Truth and demography to improve at times, but with free housing and social guarantees will trample. It is quite possible to stimulate families.
  13. +2
    25 August 2020 07: 04
    The EAEU and the Customs Union are something with something.
    They cannot build a unified policy on "sanctions", but they imposed restrictive duties in other areas, from which production (namely production) suffers, for example, in the Kaliningrad region where everything goes across the border
  14. +1
    25 August 2020 07: 18
    In Belarus, trade with the EU is allowed, Russia is allowed to trade with Belarus, resale is allowed, moreover, almost all of these capitalists are ours, due to this they live and feed. And as you wanted otherwise, so it will be. In the eighties, the Americans imposed sanctions against the USSR, the goods we needed were American, there were such, they bought through third countries, the United States did not get mad. but they could not do anything.
    1. 0
      25 August 2020 08: 33
      I remember how in the perestroika years the USSR imposed sanctions against the Lithuanian SSR - a ban on the import of fuels and lubricants. At first, public transport in Vilnius stopped.
      Guess from three times which of the fraternal republics soon organized the supply of fuel to Vilnius.
  15. +6
    25 August 2020 07: 40
    The most effective weapon against sanctions is the production of their own, of higher quality and cheaper, so that they smuggle our products from us to them.
    1. +4
      25 August 2020 07: 45
      Quote: Boris55
      this is the production of one's own,

      You are more than ever right.
    2. 0
      25 August 2020 08: 35
      This is ineffective from a business point of view. Plants, equipment, suppliers, loans, payback periods, risks. And then he bought, sold and profit immediately.
    3. 0
      25 August 2020 19: 43
      The most effective weapon against sanctions is the production of their own, of higher quality and cheaper, so that they smuggle our products from us to them.


      Then it is necessary to introduce new budget items - "for anti-sanction activities" and remove the bans.
      He presented articles in the press such as "The budget bought a Japanese pharmaceutical cluster on a turnkey basis" to the oligarch or "A factory gift from the capitals". It's funny, but perhaps it will be effective for everything except the tangerine-banana exotic.
  16. 0
    25 August 2020 08: 25
    "The notorious Belarusian shrimp has nothing to do with it, since the union republic has quite real legal quotas for fishing in the Russian (and not only) seas."
    Stop playing around and trying to be politically correct.
    Allies must be honest with each other.
    And shrimp can be grown.
    The claims against the Republic of Belarus were about something completely different.
    Namely, that the republic selfishly used its allied status in relation to Russia.
  17. 0
    25 August 2020 08: 42
    Transit of sanctioned products through Russia to Kazakhstan, Armenia ... only by rail in sealed wagons. For the import of such goods, deprive the license for the right to trade and penalties - 1000 times higher than the value of the imported goods. And then the GDP again looks like a chatterbox-introduced counter-sanctions, but forgot to introduce the implementation mechanism and responsibility for violating the decree. hi
    1. 0
      25 August 2020 09: 13
      VOKhR and the railway police are responsible for violating the integrity of the cars and seals. It is a crime, checks at every station. A merchant from Belarus bought goods in Poland, brought them to his warehouse, this is the goods of this Belarusian merchant, not Polish, and he has every right to sell it to a merchant from Russia. Otherwise, sanctions should be imposed against Belarus. And there can be no honesty between states, the main thing is its citizens. One such "woodpecker" out of friendship sent millions of people for slaughter, in the First World War.
      1. +2
        25 August 2020 13: 01
        When the Turks shot down our plane, a type of sanction was imposed on Turkish "tomatoes". And instantly "Turkish" tomatoes became ... Azerbaijani, through "daughters" and shell companies. Sanctions, yeah.
  18. 0
    25 August 2020 09: 12
    The raven will not peck out the crow.
  19. -7
    25 August 2020 09: 14
    Sanctions ... Counter-sanctions ... in any case, Voronezh will be bombed.
    1. 0
      25 August 2020 09: 38
      Quote: Grazdanin
      Sanctions ... Counter-sanctions ... in any case, Voronezh will be bombed.

      What are you smoking?
  20. 0
    25 August 2020 09: 27
    Why are you surprised?
    Remember, Putin said about a similar case, "You need to rejoice." And on VO they wrote about direct deliveries
    Titanium and Aluminum to Ukraine ...

    Someone is a sanctioner, and someone is a mother. You can always put pressure on whoever you need to, get a general plan, and write tearful articles about suffering Polish farmers ...
  21. +1
    25 August 2020 09: 37
    But Mr. Dankvert believes that it is necessary to confiscate not only the sanctioned products themselves, but also vehicles transporting such products:
    There is another option, call the parents of those drivers who are transporting the license and ... scold feel
  22. 0
    25 August 2020 10: 44
    The manufacturer's passport for goods similar to sanctions (barcode label) and a system similar to the alcohol control system will cut the sanction by 90 percent. As an example: before the introduction of such a system, 99% of alcohol was sold here in Mukhozaletensk. Now 99% factory-made. I checked it myself - the program on the smartphone shows. And the manufacturers themselves will kill the merchants who duplicate brands for products ...
  23. 0
    25 August 2020 12: 07
    These are not games. There is more than compromising evidence on Dankvert, but it seems that he is omnipotent. It is especially noteworthy that more and more compromising evidence and scandals indicate that an ethnic (German) group has been formed. And this is very very serious.