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Hackers, lasers and poison in the air conditioner: what other versions will be presented at the trial in the case of Efremov

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The defense of the actor Mikhail Efremov, who is accused of committing a fatal accident, puts forward more and more versions. Now we are not talking about a technical malfunction of the car or an accidental drinking companion while driving, but about the possible poisoning of the driver through the air conditioner.


Lawyer Elman Pashayev said that the investigation did not consider several versions. Among them - the possible interception of the car by hackers, the blinding of the driver with a laser, and even the deliberate poisoning of the driver with toxic substances through the air conditioning system. But this, of course, is exotic. And here are other "versions" of the defender: the investigators did not study the probability of an unexpected call to the driver, treatment of the road with reagents, can be considered more fair. Pashayev outlined all these considerations in a response to the results of an auto-technical examination carried out as part of a criminal investigation.

However, Pashayev's interest is understandable: it is important for him to get his client acquitted, and if this fails, then at least contribute to the maximum mitigation of punishment. And any tricks and any versions come into play. If the law allows you to carry nonsense under the guise of legal delights and if the court itself is ready to listen to all this "carefully", then the lawyer will skillfully use this.

These statements, of course, may look like a public relations advocate. But a lawyer is obliged to consider different versions, including the most incredible ones, which may affect the fate of his client. Of course, in my opinion, the versions about hackers or poisonous substances through the air conditioning system look fantastic. But a possible technical malfunction of the car or the likelihood of another person driving from among the persons who could have had a drink with Efremov that evening, the defense should not ignore. Moreover, we can remember Orwell: yesterday is fantasy, today is reality,

- the lawyer Timur Hardy commented to Voennoy Obozreniye on the statement of his colleague.

Meanwhile, to defend Efremov, practically all the liberal and not so creative and not quite Moscow intelligentsia rallied together. If there was a drunken official or a policeman in the place of the actor, even a person with a highly developed imagination would not be able to imagine that he would be defended by numerous directors, artists, writers and other "citizen poets".

However, Efremov is “his own” for the bohemian. Apparently, it is easy for many of its defenders to imagine themselves returning from a "creative evening" insane at the wheel. Hence the reaction: defending Efremov, many of his colleagues project this sad history on ourselves. Now, in order to whitewash the actor, his friends say: Efremov never got drunk behind the wheel. Perhaps this is so, since, as the saying goes, “not caught - not a thief,” but in this case, we are talking about a specific road accident, as a result of which a person died, and the footage with an actor drunk on a blackboard wandering around his car , flew all over the country.

The press has repeatedly appeared statements of representatives and friends of Efremov that he is ready to provide any assistance to the family of the deceased Sergei Zakharov. But for some reason, representatives of the relatives of the deceased say otherwise. The lawyer of the injured party, Alexander Dobrovinsky, right in the courtroom, asked Efremov's defenders why the actor, even personally confronted with the relatives of the deceased, did not bring them elementary condolences.


Alexander Dobrovinsky - lawyer of the injured party

There was no clear answer to this question. It seems that the actor and his defense decided: as an apology, that video message, which was recorded shortly after the incident, when Mikhail, apparently, was still under the influence of emotions from the experience, will do. Then he actually took his words back, demonstrated what is called the true insides.

Meanwhile, the relatives of the driver who died in an accident, to their credit, are not going to reconcile with Efremov and “sell” the memory of their father. So, the youngest son of the deceased Sergei Zakharov, Valery Zakharov, said that he was counting on the maximum possible punishment for Efremov under this article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and noted that if the actor wanted, he would have made a personal apology to the relatives and friends of the deceased. But that did not happen. Valery also told the press about plans to file a civil suit against Mikhail Efremov. And the injured party filed a claim against Mr. Efremov in the amount of 1 ruble. This is a signal that for the family of the deceased in this case justice and the inevitability of punishment are in the first place.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 20 August 2020 12: 04
    43
    Among them - the possible interception of the car by hackers, the blinding of the driver with a laser, and even the deliberate poisoning of the driver with toxic substances through the air conditioning system.
    No, there is an option that Yefremov's ass was at the wheel. It is quite tolerant. recourse This is just a mockery of us. No longer a court, but (almost wrote - a farce) absurdity, and we are offered to seriously consider all this. angry
    1. RUnnm
      RUnnm 20 August 2020 12: 20
      24
      Wait, what does the court have to do with it? The court has not yet passed a verdict, and these are just the fantasies of the sick imagination of a lawyer. He can also declare that the cosmic radiation was not taken into account.
      But to declare "unexpected call to the driver" as an excuse is a sign that this lawyer is not aware that, according to the traffic rules, you can only talk while driving with free hands.
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 20 August 2020 12: 23
        35
        This is not a lawyer, but some kind of toastmaster. And his jokes are like at an idiotic wedding. With such a lawyer, you don't need a prosecutor.
        1. RUnnm
          RUnnm 20 August 2020 12: 48
          19
          It could be worse))) Feigin could still be))) he is probably the only lawyer whose client the court gives more than the prosecutor's office asks for))
        2. Hagen
          Hagen 20 August 2020 12: 50
          +3
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          This is not a lawyer, but some kind of toastmaster. And his jokes are like at an idiotic wedding. With such a lawyer, you don't need a prosecutor.

          I would not treat Pashayev so lightly. This is a very thoughtful lawyer. Moreover, successful. These are not "freebies" for you, yawning sluggishly during the trial. And if he arranges a clownery, then there is some sense in it that is not known to outsiders. It's just that it's not entirely clear from what point he will "ruin" the case.
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 20 August 2020 14: 17
            +6
            Quote: Hagen
            I would not treat Pashayev so lightly. This is a very thoughtful lawyer. Moreover, successful.

            So successful that colleagues in the shop gave him a kick in one place? Well, if his success lies in obfuscating the proceedings by turning it into a booth, then yes, successful.
            1. Hagen
              Hagen 20 August 2020 16: 37
              +1
              Quote: Albert1988
              So successful that colleagues in the shop gave him a kick in one place?

              There is such a workshop - where they kicked, in the same place a minute later and kissed. Its relevance and success is calculated in fees. Do you get paid like that?
          2. Serg65
            Serg65 20 August 2020 14: 19
            +6
            Quote: Hagen
            I would not treat Pashayev so lightly.

            Yes, forgive him. Duck, without conscience and honor !!!
            1. Harry.km
              Harry.km 20 August 2020 15: 19
              +1
              Quote: Serg65
              he is a duck, without conscience and honor !!!

              Best Lawyer Advertising!
          3. kit88
            kit88 20 August 2020 15: 31
            +7
            It's just that it's not entirely clear from what point he will "ruin" the case.

            - Try to prove that there is no evidence that it was the client who was driving.
            This is from the realm of fantasy
            - Try to challenge the results of the medical examination, and remove the "state of intoxication", thereby re-qualifying the charge from part 4 to part 3 of the same article 264 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. And this is a completely different calico! The article is of medium severity, the condition really shines (which is very often applicable to first-timers), parole after a third of the term, maximum speed up to 5 years / five will not be given - this is only to repeat offenders, first-walker three and a half trespassers /, or forced labor up to 4 years Reconciliation of the parties is possible.
            And this will be the victory of the lawyer.
            This is theoretically real, and a lawyer is obliged to dig in this direction.
        3. lis-ik
          lis-ik 20 August 2020 13: 16
          17
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          This is not a lawyer, but some kind of toastmaster. And his jokes are like at an idiotic wedding. With such a lawyer, you don't need a prosecutor.

          The court must appoint a forensic psychiatric examination of a lawyer or a drug test, the lawyer is clearly inadequate.
          1. Clear
            Clear 20 August 2020 23: 17
            +2
            Quote: lis-ik
            Quote: Bashkirkhan
            This is not a lawyer, but some kind of toastmaster. And his jokes are like at an idiotic wedding. With such a lawyer, you don't need a prosecutor.

            The court must appoint a forensic psychiatric examination of a lawyer or a drug test, the lawyer is clearly inadequate.

            Lawyers are pulling money from him. Hourly payment.
        4. irbis0373
          irbis0373 20 August 2020 18: 20
          +5
          The lawyer is just working off his money. And nothing prevents him from carrying any nonsense about the circumstances of this tragic situation. To be honest, it would rather be over, tired of watching and reading about this actor. Time has just shown once again what he is, he does not have the strength and spirit to admit that he is wrong, he is used to impunity. And you need to punish.
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 20 August 2020 12: 26
        15
        Efremov never got drunk behind the wheel. Perhaps this is so, since, as they say, "not caught - not a thief"
        angry It is difficult to imagine a more idiotic situation. A THIEF, not the one who was caught, but the THIEF, the one who steals! angry
        1. Hagen
          Hagen 20 August 2020 12: 53
          +1
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          A THIEF, not the one who was caught, but the THIEF, the one who steals!

          How do you know who is stealing if you cannot catch him? And if someone, for example, standing behind you in line at the store, suddenly imagines that you are a thief, will you demand proof of your guilt on his part?
          1. Roman246810
            Roman246810 20 August 2020 14: 04
            -18 qualifying.
            Well, for example, Putin's organized criminal group .. seems to have not been caught .. but everyone knows that they are stealing ..
            Also, everyone knows that the Yeltsin clan was stealing, Berezovsky, Abramovich, etc., etc., were stealing, although no one even caught them ..))
            1. Roman246810
              Roman246810 20 August 2020 14: 05
              -18 qualifying.
              But everything that will now start to object to me ... it will be just from the same nonsense as the lawyer Efremov is talking about ..
              1. Albert1988
                Albert1988 20 August 2020 14: 18
                +3
                Quote: Roman246810
                But everything that will now start to object to me ... it will be just from the same nonsense as the lawyer Efremov is talking about ..

                Oha, "Putin's organized criminal group" is, for a minute, a lot of people, and who of them exactly stole what and how much - you need to find out, but here everything is in full view ...
                1. Roman246810
                  Roman246810 20 August 2020 14: 54
                  -6
                  which of them exactly stole what and how much - you need to find out, but here everything is in full view ...

                  Who and how much is another question ..
                  But there is no doubt that these are thieves ..
                  1. Albert1988
                    Albert1988 20 August 2020 14: 57
                    +3
                    Quote: Roman246810
                    But there is no doubt that these are thieves ..

                    Let me give you an example - do you work in a team? Does it work? And imagine that one of your colleagues stole money that your company received for the execution of an order, this was reported in the media, and I read it and said - "yes, they are all thieves in their company, this is beyond doubt ..."
                    This is the first thing.
                    Second, thief and politician are synonyms. in all countries, what we have, what in Europe and America - the point is only in the methods of theft ...
                    1. Roman246810
                      Roman246810 20 August 2020 15: 02
                      -3
                      Demagogy..
                      The above was a simple question and a simple answer ..

                      Hagen
                      how do you know who is stealing if you cannot catch him?


                      Roman246810
                      here for example, Putin's organized criminal group .. seems to be not caught .. but everyone knows that they are stealing ..
                      Also, everyone knows that the Yeltsin clan stole, Berezovsky, Abramovich, etc., stole, etc. Although no one even caught them


                      I'm not talking about all the incidents in life .. that there is always a known thief / criminal ..
                      I'm talking about the fact that - often a thief / criminal is known .. but he is either not caught, or acquitted ..

                      This is what we see in the example of Putin, Berezovsky, Abramovich / Efremov ..
                      1. Hagen
                        Hagen 21 August 2020 06: 29
                        +2
                        Quote: Roman246810
                        What we see in the example of Putin

                        And what do you see in the example of Putin? Have you been to his apartment? Have you seen any documents testifying to his illegal behavior? The whole CIA has been knocked off its feet to find something similar, but apart from "high probability" there is nothing. Here they charge this "cranberry" to you. And you are being led, perhaps, on the basis of failures at work or in your personal life. (In the broadest sense of the word. I do not claim!) Statements like "everyone knows" are the most common way to manipulate public opinion, because if "everyone knows," then an unstable person believes without additional checks, i.e. without the use of "critical thinking". This is an indicator of insufficient horizons and the use of reason in practical life. And besides, this is the way to commit the crime of "slander" (that is, the dissemination of knowingly false information that discredits the honor and dignity of another person or undermines his reputation). In any case, when you are trying to assert something in the field of law, especially criminal, it would not be bad to familiarize yourself with this right, well, at least at the level of educational program (just reading a textbook without discussions with experts) laughing
              2. Serg65
                Serg65 20 August 2020 14: 22
                +5
                Quote: Roman246810
                But everything that is here now will start to object to me

                What is Roma from? In part you are right, but this does not justify Efremov!
                1. Roman246810
                  Roman246810 20 August 2020 14: 56
                  -3
                  Ha .. and I justified him or what ??
                  I only responded to objections about the phrase "THIEF, not the one who was caught, but the THIEF, the one who steals!"
              3. Hagen
                Hagen 20 August 2020 16: 33
                +1
                Quote: Roman246810
                But everything that will now start to object to me ... it will be just from the same nonsense as the lawyer Efremov is talking about ..

                Sure! You, and only you own the ultimate truth ... wassat It is this conceit that leads the unreasonable to hell, or to a broken trough ...
            2. Serg65
              Serg65 20 August 2020 14: 21
              +6
              Quote: Roman246810
              stole Yeltsin's clan, stole Berezovsky, Abramovich, etc., etc. Although no one even caught them

              Yeltsin and Abromovich got rid of a big bribe, and a special troika sentenced Berezovsky without trial! wink
              1. Roman246810
                Roman246810 20 August 2020 14: 56
                -1
                These are all details ..
                The essence does not change ..
                A THIEF, not the one who was caught, but the THIEF, the one who steals!
            3. aglet
              aglet 20 August 2020 14: 48
              +1
              do you think efremov is in Putin's organized crime group, and he protects him? like bae, the caliber is too small
              1. Roman246810
                Roman246810 20 August 2020 15: 03
                0
                Why invent something I didn't write ..
                1. forester1971
                  forester1971 20 August 2020 20: 42
                  +2
                  Why are you writing about Putin in an article about Efremov? Is there any relationship between these people? Or is it your strategy to translate all discussions on topics that are beneficial to you?
      3. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 20 August 2020 13: 25
        +2
        Quote: RUnnm
        Wait, what does the court have to do with it? The court has not yet passed a verdict
        belay
        If the law allows you to carry nonsense under the guise of legal delights and if the court itself is ready to listen to all this "carefully",
        What did you think? The court is not only a procedure, but the whole circus around it. request
      4. Catfish
        Catfish 20 August 2020 18: 30
        0
        No, the lawyer's imagination is by no means sick, all means that benefit the client are good in his work, and we are not talking about conscience and decency. I think that you and I will not hear this yet, there is nothing to be surprised at. hi
        "The victim fell on his own knife, and so ten times in a row ..."
        What is really there. request
      5. zenion
        zenion 21 August 2020 18: 18
        +1
        There was no cosmic radiation, but there were sunspots. Schweik admitted that he was beaten in a pub because of these spots on the sun. Now he first reads whether there are spots on the Sun. If there are stains, he does not leave the house.
      6. Shuttle
        Shuttle 22 August 2020 07: 19
        0
        Quote: RUnnm
        ... these are just the fantasies of a lawyer's sick imagination. He can also say that cosmic radiation was not taken into account ..

        Exactly! There are other options.
        Solar prominences, Van Allen belt, Russell teapot and LMM. What?! The defense doesn't want to consider the influence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster on the situation ?! This is an insult to the religious feelings of the padzaschitnago !!!

        In my opinion, it is high time to finish casting the shadow on the fence. He sits down earlier, "good gentleman" comes out earlier.
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 20 August 2020 12: 27
      +9
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      No, there is an option that Efremov's ass was at the wheel

      The topic of aliens has been completely missed. They slipped a flying saucer over Sadovy ... Until they catch and interrogate Mikhail Olegovich wassat
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 20 August 2020 12: 42
        19
        eh, Mikhail ... if you had sat down, you would have remained a peasant, but now you are a zero, shalashovka, a nonentity, you died and did not notice ...
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 20 August 2020 13: 00
          15
          Quote: Dead Day
          eh, Mikhail ... if you had sat down, you would have remained a peasant, but now you are a zero, shalashovka, a nonentity, you died and did not notice ...

          It doesn't work that way. He has always been like this, interviews say a lot about a person.
        2. orionvitt
          orionvitt 20 August 2020 13: 32
          +9
          Quote: Dead Day
          and now you are zero, shalashovka, nothingness, you died and did not notice ...

          And he deeply does not care about us all. For him, the opinion is important, only of his own, liberal "creative" get-together. And ordinary people, even his own spectators, he saw in a coffin. That he makes clear with his behavior.
      2. parusnik
        parusnik 20 August 2020 12: 57
        14
        Another topic is missing:
        - I am a historian, - the scientist confirmed and added neither to the village nor to the city:
        - There will be an interesting story on the Garden Ring tonight!
        .................................................. .................................................. .................
        The police? The police? Comrade on duty, order now that five motorcycles with machine guns be dispatched to capture the foreign consultant.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 20 August 2020 14: 22
          +7
          In general, some kind of adiotia - hackers, lasers, aliens, spies. .... fool
          If alcohol and stuff negative fixed?
          Is this trying to create aggravated emollients? Or what I don't understand recourse
          Disgusting. Involuntarily, I think that suddenly someone, who is protecting him, was attacked by drunks at night and kicked, and then it would turn out that it was the enemy's laser.
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 20 August 2020 17: 00
            +2
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Is this trying to create aggravated emollients? Or what I don't understand

            Dmitry! hi It seems to me that this whole circus with horses is not just started. Most likely, the lawyer is trying to play the card of Efremov - a noble knight who, by the will of fate, found himself at the wrong time and in the wrong place. Namely, the lawyer will offer the court versions - one more absurd than the other, imitating Efremov's desperate attempts to evade responsibility. And then Efremov, in a white tailcoat, will enter the arena and say: "I am guilty! I am a scoundrel! I killed a man! I cannot live with this! He will wipe away a stingy man's tear (along with the judges and jury) and wring his hands in pictures. Curtain!"
            He will receive, as one who has realized and repented, less than less and in a couple of years home as a white swan on parole.
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 20 August 2020 21: 20
              +2
              laughing I don't think he would have confessed. It will better portray memory and brain loss, in my opinion. Like grief. Affect. Was there something in the hospital? Probably. What performances. negative
              recourse Names are not visible on mobile request
              1. Polite Moose
                Polite Moose 20 August 2020 21: 57
                +2
                Quote: Reptiloid
                I don't think he would have confessed. It will better portray memory and brain loss, in my opinion.

                In this case, he will have to say goodbye to theater, cinema, etc. And he will remain in the people's memory as a person ... (substitute any appropriate term). And it is unlikely that all these antics will help him evade responsibility. Today, there is still a blind witness drawn. Just PPC.
                No, I'm still inclined to the version that they are preparing a final scene called "Noble Repentance". and a ceremonial departure into the sunset to the applause of fellow workers and ... admirers of his talent.
    3. halpat
      halpat 20 August 2020 15: 06
      +8

      The man is only 57 years old !!
      And it looks like an average station bum.
      All bad habits on the face, as they say.
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 20 August 2020 15: 10
        -3
        Yes. And this is probably the main reason why I am ready to be adequate in his assessment ...
        In a great country, does a big actor (i.e. a pro) look and act like a marginal?
      2. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 20 August 2020 15: 23
        +6
        Quote: Halpat
        And it looks like an average station bum.


        Pitt was drinking for ten years, and Efremov as long as he can remember.
        1. halpat
          halpat 20 August 2020 16: 08
          +2
          Brad Pitt is only here despite the fact that he is also an actor.
          But if you just compare Mr. Efremov with his even Russian peers, then ... how bae ... smile few people will be able to compete with him smile
      3. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 21 August 2020 04: 10
        0
        Quote: Halpat
        And it looks like an average station bum.
        All bad habits on the face, as they say.

        Artist. The stylists and image makers have done some work. We feel sorry for the poor.
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 20 August 2020 21: 00
      +3
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      absurd and we are all offered to seriously consider.

      Well, when a rich girl ran over a 7-year-old boy and the court SERIOUSLY believed that the child was drunk to death, as well as his whole family ... why be surprised? I would not be surprised if a version appears that the aliens are to blame, who blinded this drunken desman with their UFOs, and therefore he did not react in time.
      LAW and JUSTICE have long been not synonyms, but rather opposites.
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 21 August 2020 11: 22
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        LAW and JUSTICE have long been not synonyms, but rather opposites.

        In many cases, in court, and indeed in life, two extremes collide: one knows the law and abuses it, the other does not know, does not want to know, is proud of it, as an achievement and sheds tears for every defeat inflicted by the first. Justice in these cases is somewhere in between ...
  2. Wwk7260
    Wwk7260 20 August 2020 12: 08
    -2
    some House 2, discuss it on the military-political resource? Here's the news on Navalny, for some reason? and this is all the same policy and should be on this resource.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 20 August 2020 12: 15
      +5
      Yes, and this is kind of politics ... The story of the betrayal of their "ideals" ... Such a disgusting and tragedy can happen to anyone, not even drunk.
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 20 August 2020 12: 21
      +1
      Quote: Wwk7260
      Here's the news on Navalny, for some reason? but this is still a policy and should be on this resource.

      Navalny will now diligently portray the sacred victim (or from it) ...
      1. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 20 August 2020 12: 29
        +4
        Navalny will now diligently portray
        No, he is now a victim of an overdose.
        Alexei Navalny is in intensive care in Omsk. He is poisoned, in a coma.
        1. U-Gin78
          U-Gin78 20 August 2020 12: 45
          0
          Great, we (Omsk) have just become one of the top ten for the spread of coronavirus in Russia
        2. RUnnm
          RUnnm 20 August 2020 12: 50
          +4
          It's just a sacred star-striped sacrifice in the direction of SP-2
        3. frizzy
          frizzy 20 August 2020 13: 04
          -3
          You and him did you expand together ???
          1. Trapp1st
            Trapp1st 20 August 2020 13: 20
            +4
            You and him did you expand together ???
            He is not greedy.
        4. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 20 August 2020 13: 14
          +1
          Quote: Trapp1st
          No, he is now a victim of an overdose.

          I wrote - or FROM HIM!
      2. Wwk7260
        Wwk7260 20 August 2020 12: 30
        +5
        I remembered ... "Paster Schlag, or his bright image!" (c)
        1. Lionnvrsk
          Lionnvrsk 20 August 2020 13: 26
          +4
          Sorry, but pastor! And Pasteur is Louis. repeat
    3. feokot1982
      feokot1982 20 August 2020 13: 23
      11
      Coincidence or not, but today is also the anniversary of the meeting of Trotsky and the ice ax
      1. Dim61
        Dim61 20 August 2020 14: 02
        +3
        The figures are completely different in scale. God forbid now such an active nature as Trotsky to be thrown into a political swamp.
    4. Serg65
      Serg65 20 August 2020 14: 27
      -3
      Quote: Wwk7260
      Here's the news on Navalny, for some reason?

      And what about Leshka to the news on VO? And there is no politics here ... this is God's punishment! The time has come for Lekhino to answer for his affairs!
      1. Alf
        Alf 20 August 2020 19: 50
        +1
        Quote: Serg65
        this is God's punishment! The time has come for Lekhino to answer for his affairs!

        The award found a hero.
  3. sanja.grw
    sanja.grw 20 August 2020 12: 09
    10
    Among them - the possible interception of the car by hackers, the blinding of the driver with a laser, and even the deliberate poisoning of the driver with toxic substances through the air conditioning system.

    But what about the UFO, about the UFO forgot to say paskuda.
  4. Ramon Merkader
    Ramon Merkader 20 August 2020 12: 09
    21
    Just Efremov Korean - Kon Chen Uy
    1. ddmitrij
      ddmitrij 20 August 2020 12: 21
      16
      Rather the Frenchman Mu D'Ac
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  6. Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 20 August 2020 12: 10
    31
    the son of the deceased Sergei Zakharov, Valery Zakharov, said that he was counting on the maximum punishment possible under this article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation for Efremov

    Many would like this, these representatives of the "bohemia" with the "elites" have gotten everyone for a long time, completely insolent. They also found a white bone, blue blood. Lenin was right when he gave a clear and understandable definition to this entire intelligentsia.
  7. askort154
    askort154 20 August 2020 12: 15
    +7
    Here it is modern jurisprudence in all its glory.
    Where even below the baseboard ?! Disgustingly disgusting performance in front of the whole country.
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 20 August 2020 14: 18
      -3
      modern jurisprudence

      And where is the jurisprudence? The Principle of the Presumption of Innocence applies. No one can be found guilty except by a court verdict that has entered into legal force. Has the court delivered a verdict? Not. A judicial investigation is still underway. And before, when the defendants were mowed down by the psychos and the insane? By the way, during the Soviet era, too. Is the jurisprudence also to blame? Here the Court will deliver a verdict, then express yourself.
      1. askort154
        askort154 20 August 2020 14: 48
        +3
        Roundabout .....And where is the jurisprudence?

        "Pulling the cat by the tail", turning the time of the investigation into a protracted show.
        Drunk and with drugs in his blood made an accident, as a result of which a person died. At the same time, this accident was recorded on several cameras, there are witnesses and a confession of the culprit. What else is missing for the investigation and the court?
        Everything is clear as day. Had it been an "ordinary little-known" culprit, the trial would have taken place in a week and the culprit would have received a maximum of -12 years.
        But no, for a month and a half there has been a "show trial" with the participation of the whole country. The lawyer shows how you can blatantly ruin an obvious crime. He inspired the ward that he would "twist him" as much as possible, giving him advice on behavior. And a professional artist easily copes with his tasks. All moral, including investigative ethics, have been undermined before the eyes of the whole country. As a result: this farce justice lasts for a month and a half. What is it like for the loved ones of the deceased ?! Imagine yourself in their place.
        Or who are they compared to a celebrity ?!
        Here are some "celebrities" and excuses the culprit.
        Because they have the same "soul" as Efremov.
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 21 August 2020 12: 33
          -1
          Everything is clear as day. If it were an "ordinary little-known" culprit, the trial would take place in a week
          Do not write nonsense if you do not know.

          "Pulling the cat by the tail", turning the time of the investigation into a protracted show.

          The preliminary investigation went VERY quickly. Although, according to the law, up to 2 months does not take into account the extension. And the investigators, even before 2 months, took the case to court VERY quickly. And here the judicial investigation - now various petitions from the parties, which the court is considering, then the defendant fell ill, the lawyer was unable to attend, then a petition for the appearance of a new witness, etc.
  8. Egoza
    Egoza 20 August 2020 12: 16
    15
    And I remember the old film "The Rumyantsev Case". How there is an old thief talking to an elderly policeman, recalling his youth and how he played a mental patient. "All psychiatrists believed, one you did not believe." Here is the same case, only on a larger scale, but there are already much more people who do not believe in this idea.
    1. Hagen
      Hagen 20 August 2020 13: 01
      16
      Sometimes I had to catch drug addicts. They told such stories in the duty room that they wanted to throw off the whole shift and let the poor fellow go until the search file was opened. They are still those "artists". The monument will be "divorced" to a tear ... Because it is a way of survival for many of them. And the most "capable" survive. There are no social guarantees of pensions and sick leave, so real "masters" survive.
  9. ddmitrij
    ddmitrij 20 August 2020 12: 19
    15
    So it was reported that he was more than once caught drunk while driving. Or do I have the wrong information?
    In my opinion, he should get at least 8 years!
  10. Same lech
    Same lech 20 August 2020 12: 22
    12
    Mr. Efremov sank to the very bottom, the deepest gorge ... where the sun will not shine for a long time ... there is nowhere to fall below.
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 20 August 2020 12: 31
      +9
      there is nowhere to fall below.
      But he will do his best.
    2. boss
      boss 20 August 2020 12: 58
      +9
      You are right, Efremov has gone down, and the brain is sick, poisoned by a cocktail of substances, the remains of which are found in the blood.
      But the problem is not only that, but that
      1. Efremov sees the court as a performance, and himself in the leading role, leaving the scene of remorse and sorrow for the finale
      2. Lawyers provoke him to this game, to such behavior and attitude towards the court
      3. Efremov is told that by such behavior, they will raise a wave and achieve the most lenient punishment
      And yes, as long as it works. Dragging out the time of the trial, sitting under house arrest, is not at all like going to court in a red-hot paddy wagon in summer and cold winter, but the same period goes at home and in the comforts.
      The way out is to change house arrest to custody and the performance will follow a completely different scenario ...
    3. Hagen
      Hagen 20 August 2020 13: 11
      +8
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      where the sun will not shine for a long time ..

      The term under the article is from 5 years. They will give seven years. He will organize a drama club in the zone, will behave diligently and in about three years will be released on parole. That's all "long". If, at the stage of the investigation, Pashayev sees that Efremov cannot be smeared "under the clean", then he will recommend him active repentance and assistance to the investigation. The term may shrink below the lowest ... Then it may not sit for a couple of years in completely "not cool" conditions.
    4. hohkn
      hohkn 20 August 2020 14: 15
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Mr. Efremov sank to the very bottom, the deepest gorge ... where the sun will not shine for a long time ... there is nowhere to fall below.

      But then they knocked from below ...
  11. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 20 August 2020 12: 26
    +8
    He could do a good deed and help AvtoVAZ to create safer cars in the future, having worked as a crash test dummy.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 20 August 2020 12: 27
      +4
      having worked as a crash test dummy.

      His mug is painfully terrible ... his mug is swollen from vodka ... he won't get into the car anymore.
  12. K-612-O
    K-612-O 20 August 2020 12: 42
    10
    Why is this drunken brute on the MILITARY !!! review ?!
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 20 August 2020 13: 35
      +3
      Why is this drunken brute on the MILITARY !!!
      Drunkenness fight, comrade !!! soldier
  13. Baloo
    Baloo 20 August 2020 12: 44
    10
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Efremov never got drunk behind the wheel. Perhaps this is so, since, as they say, "not caught - not a thief"
    angry It is difficult to imagine a more idiotic situation. A THIEF, not the one who was caught, but the THIEF, the one who steals! angry

    my version: the car was drunk and crashed into another car.
  14. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 20 August 2020 12: 53
    +2
    Why do these people have the faces of some hallucinogenic trip? :)
  15. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 20 August 2020 12: 54
    0
    Apparently, it is easy for many of its defenders to imagine themselves returning from a "creative evening" insane at the wheel. Hence the reaction: defending Efremov, many of his colleagues project this sad story onto themselves. Now, to whitewash the actor, his friends say:


    That's right ...
  16. Blue fox
    Blue fox 20 August 2020 12: 55
    +6
    These people misunderstand one thing when (God forbid!), But alas, when this happens for the 5,10,25, XNUMX, XNUMXth time and another "creative intellectual" kills a person and escapes legal punishment, relatives simply will not wait for a fair trial.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 20 August 2020 13: 28
      +3
      I agree, the minimum will be marked in the dressing room
  17. Selevc
    Selevc 20 August 2020 12: 56
    +7
    It seems to me that every movie-musical-literary bohemia should have a special approach in terms of punishment ... If they are deservedly encouraged, then they should be punished just as deservedly - that is, doubly !!! Efremov's behavior suggests that he is not a film authority, but simply an opportunist in life. When such people are sowing the wise and the eternal in the country, it is not surprising that the laws of morality are in deep crisis !!!
  18. frizzy
    frizzy 20 August 2020 12: 59
    +2
    Yes, everything is clear, Comrade Zakharov is to blame. He needed 15-20 seconds to slow down the realties !! So we need to let Mishka out, let him play at the bowling pins too.
  19. iouris
    iouris 20 August 2020 13: 04
    +4
    "In impoverished and illiterate Russia, the most important of the arts for us are cinema and the circus" (VI Lenin). What we are looking at. Especially after the "testimony" in court of other actors.
    Not without reason, one great director believed: "actors are not people." By the way, why did not the directors (who love actors), the cloakroom attendants (the theater starts with a hanger) and the traffic police (they also did not know that they allowed the great chronic alcoholic and petty drug user to drive a vehicle), and control officers for drug trafficking?
  20. prior
    prior 20 August 2020 13: 05
    +7
    For a real lousy intellectual, there is no bottom.
    Anyone will pierce and fall below.
  21. jncnfdybr
    jncnfdybr 20 August 2020 13: 07
    +9
    but where is Efremov as an artist? What if he was a locksmith? Then plant? But the artist is nizyayayaya. So, he broke the law-sheep according to the law. )
    1. Vladimir Demyanov
      Vladimir Demyanov 20 August 2020 14: 24
      +7
      I will answer your question with an anecdote: If a turner loves cards, wine and women, he is a vicious person and a criminal at heart. He has no place among decent people! If a deputy loves cards, wine and women, he strives to know the aspirations of the people and be closer to the people. If an honored artist loves cards, wine and women, he is just a great lover of life! It is under this sauce that it is offered. As his dad said in Beware of the Car: "He's to blame, but he's not." And at VO Efremov is appropriate because he played officers in the movies. For me personally, I played with the "odor," disgusting.
  22. Campanella
    Campanella 20 August 2020 13: 14
    +6
    This is the face of the opposition! And how it differs from the corrupt officials accused by them.
    Their shirt, which is known to be closer to the body, makes them Siamese twins.
    I do not make excuses for corrupt officials and swindlers, I just draw your attention to the fact that those who accuse them are made of the same test.
    And the people should understand who they should follow and who shouldn't.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 20 August 2020 14: 54
      0
      Quote: Campanella
      I do not make excuses for corrupt officials and swindlers, I just draw your attention to the fact that those who accuse them are made of the same test.

      And I want to draw your attention to the fact that the dough from which the appointed judges are molded is no better ... yes
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 20 August 2020 18: 19
        0
        Judges are no exception, they are people too.
        Therefore, you can only believe people who, with their lives, actions
        prove loyalty to ideas and the chosen path.
  23. Strashila
    Strashila 20 August 2020 13: 16
    +2
    "even deliberate poisoning of the driver with toxic substances through the air conditioning system", KAKAINIMUM
  24. Amur
    Amur 20 August 2020 13: 17
    +6
    When will this circus end?
    An ordinary person would have already spent time.
    How is this popular artist different from the average person? Judging by the situation, he differs from an ordinary person in the amount of shit, there is much more of it in him.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 20 August 2020 13: 35
      0
      Well, how what. The fact that he can win over to his side at the expense of fame. part of public opinion and the media. The one that can afford high-level lawyers who are included in power structures.
  25. KCA
    KCA 20 August 2020 13: 24
    +2
    I am far from all this, but it seems to me that if the judge is not bought, which I hope, for all this Halloween it will take as long as possible, well, personally, I would have done that, being a judge, not wanting to become someone's bedding, they have money, here they are, and, suddenly, they are not immediately there, like honey, and the judge, although vulgarized, but it sounds proud
    1. sanja.grw
      sanja.grw 20 August 2020 13: 44
      +2
      if the judge doesn't buy

      I read that this judge Mamaev and Kokorin wound up a term
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 20 August 2020 14: 47
        0
        Quote: sanja.grw
        I read that this judge Mamaev with Kokorin term wound

        And these in the zone are still dragging the clamp? Or, as always, on parole?
        I am interested in two high-profile cases initiated at the same time: the case of the murderer of Efremov and the case of the "terrorist" Platoshkin.
        Which of the two will resolve faster and how? It is this farce that will give the final assessment of Russian justice.
        1. bulava
          bulava 21 August 2020 11: 38
          0
          They came out a long time ago and play football. Served for a month in a sanatorium
    2. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 20 August 2020 14: 21
      -2
      With such a public outcry and media coverage, the judge should be himself insane if he takes promises. That is unlikely.
  26. evgen1221
    evgen1221 20 August 2020 13: 24
    -1
    , Advice to Pashaev- In court, express yourself as openly as possible kindly with a confession and that's it. The term, and so the minimum (for a real term for such cases for Efremov, the gut of the court is thin) will be knocked off to a hothouse.
  27. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 20 August 2020 13: 50
    +3
    Quote: Blue Fox
    These people misunderstand one thing when (God forbid!), But alas, when this happens for the 5,10,25, XNUMX, XNUMXth time and another "creative intellectual" kills a person and escapes legal punishment, relatives simply will not wait for a fair trial.

    Yes, I suspect that this is how the custom of blood feud is formed - when the law does not work, and punishment is not inevitable, then ordinary mortals themselves punish the offenders ...

    Then for some reason I recalled the road incident with the banker Matvey Urin. This banker or his guards beat the Dutchman, whom the media recognized as either the son-in-law or the close friend of Putin.
    Then the court did not look like a farce ... And the punishment turned out to be inevitable ...
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 20 August 2020 14: 50
      +1
      Quote: Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
      Then for some reason I recalled the road incident with the banker Matvey Urin.

      Did you remember the incident with Koloev?
      1. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
        Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 20 August 2020 15: 47
        +1
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Did you remember the incident with Koloev?

        And I also remembered Koloev. Probably, as a professional lawyer, I should condemn Koloev - why, he committed lynching !!! He killed a man !!!
        ... but I can't blame him. Moreover, I have the deepest respect for him!
  28. Alexander X
    Alexander X 20 August 2020 13: 54
    +3
    They are dragging on time, because being under house arrest will be counted towards serving a sentence in the CPI. Things are more pleasant at home. But how disgusting is this drunk who killed a man and is now trying to get out by all means. How disgusting are the representatives of the acting community trying to smear their killer guild. IMHO ...
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 20 August 2020 14: 42
      +3
      Quote: Alexander X
      How disgusting are the representatives of the acting community trying to smear their killer guild. IMHO ...

      And then they also play different "heroes" and demand the respect of the viewer ...
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  30. Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 20 August 2020 14: 25
    +1
    Hmm, and Efremov was not irradiated by the case of humanoids before the accident ?! Well, what a circus they have arranged, well, it's my fault, well, be a man, be responsible for your actions!
  31. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 20 August 2020 14: 27
    +1
    laughing Yes, nature rests on children and on a lawyer as well.
  32. xomaNN
    xomaNN 20 August 2020 14: 31
    0
    The lawyer's business is to come up with absurd versions, the court's business is to shift the term of the real sentence to Mr. Efr. for each such pharisaism, as a delay and an obstacle to judgment. bully
  33. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 20 August 2020 14: 40
    0
    Hackers, lasers and poison in the air conditioner: what other versions will be presented at the trial in the case of Efremov

    The words: “Yes, you knew” - can be attributed to many users predicting such an outcome (something similar) back in early June, when this problem was discussed on the VO website.
    It is perfectly clear what will happen next. Even the cat understands this:

    in our case - the story of the Russian legal proceedings ... yes
  34. aglet
    aglet 20 August 2020 14: 43
    0
    this so-called lawyer Pashayevo, goes to any lengths to drag out the process. now green men are attracted, simply mocks common sense. and the courts help him in this. waiting for amnesty from the president
  35. mark2
    mark2 20 August 2020 14: 45
    0
    Lawyer Elman Pashayev said that the investigation did not consider several versions. Among them - a possible interception by hackers of car control, blinding the driver with a laser and even deliberate poisoning of the driver.


    And also the investigation did not consider the version about the adequacy of the representative of the defense of Efremov Elman Pashayev.
  36. Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 20 August 2020 14: 48
    -1
    Valery also told the press about plans to file a civil suit against Mikhail Efremov. And the injured party filed a claim against Mr. Efremov in the amount of 1 ruble.

    What is this for??? belay
    If you file a claim, then for the real amount! Or not serve at all! It seems that the relatives of Zakharov also decided to do their bit to get the court going. Do you also feel like comedians? I do not understand... belay
  37. Yurahip
    Yurahip 20 August 2020 15: 48
    +1
    What can I say, you bohemian bastard ...
  38. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 20 August 2020 15: 54
    +1
    The fact that Efremov is a gadnyuk, no doubt! But where are the three lines of "new" messages on the "main" ... (three "dots" ...)? request As anyone, but I'm inconvenient! angry
  39. Kapkan
    Kapkan 20 August 2020 16: 18
    0
    Anything but blood alcohol? Yes, scum?
  40. Ax Matt
    Ax Matt 20 August 2020 17: 57
    0
    not a man ... what mm oo
  41. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 20 August 2020 18: 14
    0
    To smear a client is the duty of a lawyer, this is his job, his bread. Why be surprised? And a bad lawyer if he doesn't try all the ways!
    But that is a professional topic, morality is in last place here. You cannot feed a family on morality, you cannot spread it on bread.
    But I hope that Efremov will not be ransacked, although no one doubts that he will receive the mildest punishment.
    1. iouris
      iouris 21 August 2020 14: 46
      0
      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      To smear a client is the duty of a lawyer, this is his job, his bread.

      You are absolutely right when it comes to criminal activity covered by a lawyer's ID.
      The duty of a lawyer is to ensure the adversarial process and the legality of the sentence.
      Efremov's lawyer discredits the profession (although the institution of reputation has been destroyed) and the process itself. It looks like he's part of a team that falsifies evidence.
      It is surprising why changes were not urgently made to reduce the sanctions against drivers who are chronic alcoholics and drug addicts who are forced to use vehicles to get around when unable to stay on their feet.
  42. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 20 August 2020 18: 19
    0
    in Roslavl Smolenskaya for the murder of a former prosecutor with a submachine gun, two received life sentences, one 20 and two 12 but for the murder of an ordinary person even with a nuclear bomb they give 7-9 and this is the law for everyone?
  43. Sirius-2
    Sirius-2 20 August 2020 19: 15
    +1
    Even if there is a verdict, the defense will pull out a "fake" medical report, which will indicate that the accused cannot be kept "in places not so remote" for health reasons. And the court will give either conditional or house arrest.
  44. ork_333
    ork_333 20 August 2020 20: 25
    +1
    For a long time the concept of "lawyer" means to smear it by any means. Although the main thing that a lawyer should do is to monitor compliance with the law in relation to his client. Substitution of concepts in action ...
  45. Clear
    Clear 20 August 2020 22: 53
    +1
    Hackers, lasers and poison in the air conditioner:
    only not in the air conditioner, but in Efremov's head
  46. PValery53
    PValery53 21 August 2020 00: 05
    +1
    M. Efremov entered the image of inferiority, which should inspire the judges with a sense of condescension. Will this "theatrical" performance convince the judges? - The harsh sentence will still take place ...
  47. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 21 August 2020 00: 25
    0
    E. Pashaev bully fulfills the "fee $", after the verdict of the court - we will evaluate his "skill".
  48. akunin
    akunin 21 August 2020 08: 59
    0
    If the law allows you to carry nonsense under the guise of legal delights and if the court itself is ready to listen to all this "carefully", then the lawyer will skillfully use this.
    a case from life. In the 90s, a judge of a regional court was lying, they got into a conversation. "If I didn't like the defendant, then I can legally solder him to the fullest, and if I liked it, then at a minimum (for some articles the fork is very serious).
    lawyers did not take into account alien interference

    - most likely.
  49. Mmm.
    Mmm. 21 August 2020 09: 17
    +1
    Efremof is a disgusting type and bastard, all this so to speak, bohemia does not consider ordinary people for people, as well as power. Why, for example, the above citizen is not in jail. Well, think about crushed a man to death, cats on the roads are also crushed ...
  50. bulava
    bulava 21 August 2020 11: 34
    +1
    The disgusting performance was staged by the Ephraims. Well, you made a mistake, well, admit it, like a man, accept the punishment. No, he drowns himself even deeper by arranging this circus.
    For normal, adequate people, no more Ephraim exists.
    And he himself would not last long with such a cross on his back.