Flags of Poland spotted at a protest in Belarus

Protest actions continue in Belarus, during which at the moment there is actually the only demand: the resignation of Alexander Lukashenko from the presidency of the country.

Numerous Belarusian political scientists, including those who act as guests of the air of political talk shows in Russia, constantly say that the protesters do not oppose the Russian Federation, that their actions are aimed solely at ensuring that a "transit of power" occurs in Belarus that no one is going to repeat what happened on the Ukrainian Maidan, and that Belarusians will not tolerate any foreign interference.

Against this background, the footage from the rally in Grodno attracted attention. Next to the white-red-white flags, which suddenly appeared in abundance among the protesters throughout Belarus, were also seen the red-white flags of Poland. They were actively waving them in the crowd against the background of the statements of the speakers that “the Belarusian people will determine their future by themselves”.

Flags of Poland at a protest in Grodno pic.twitter.com/N348inH30i

- Volodin-Topwar (@VolodinTopwar) August 20

Let us remind you that the day before the leaders of the EU countries unanimously refused to recognize the victory of Alexander Lukashenko in the last elections. The most active support for the protesters and strikers is provided from Poland and Lithuania. In Lithuania, the authorities decided to ban the entry into the country of Alexander Lukashenko.

The activists did not comment on the appearance of Polish flags at the protest rally in Grodno. At the moment this fact was ignored in the EU as well. One can imagine how violent the reaction of the same European Union would be if a Russian tricolor appeared at any mass action in Belarus.

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[Temples]

Flags of Poland spotted at a protest in Belarus

Just noticed now?
Where did you look before?

Only impunity attracts crowds to the streets.
These are mainly young people.
This is an adventure for young people.

[Orange bigg]

The activists did not comment on the appearance of Polish flags at the protest rally in Grodno.

Someone considers Grodno to be Poland? They don't want to learn from other people's mistakes (from the mistakes of Ukraine), they will learn from their own.

[anjey]

So Psheki and Vilna will be taken back from Lithuanians, Lvov from Krains They have nothing to play with homegrown and fake independence ...

[Dmitry10SPb]

Agas. Fears of the day before yesterday. Several flags mean something like "Poland is with us" for Belarusians, and for Poles - a picture on the TV with the theme "support us". No more. Why won't they pick it up?
1. For violating borders in Europe, they will be kicked out of the EU and NATO. Is it necessary?
2. A drop in the standard of living of its own population due to the annexation of territories with a weaker economy. Aussie and Vessey problem. Have you heard?
3. The acquisition of territories with an ethnically different and not particularly loyal population generates tensions.
Like in the old Soviet film: "Nobody fights in such coats anymore." Something like this.

[Shuttle]

Quote: Dmitry10SPb

Agas. Fears of the day before yesterday. Several flags mean something like "Poland is with us" for Belarusians, and for Poles - a picture on the TV with the theme "support us". No more. Why won't they pick it up?
1. For violating borders in Europe, they will be kicked out of the EU and NATO. Is it necessary?
2. A drop in the standard of living of its own population due to the annexation of territories with a weaker economy. Aussie and Vessey problem. Have you heard?
3. The acquisition of territories with an ethnically different and not particularly loyal population generates tensions.
Like in the old Soviet film: "Nobody fights in such coats anymore." Something like this.

Goodbye MAZ, goodbye BelAZ!
Hello Polish toilet ...

[hydrox]

It's just that the Psheks are watching their commercial interest :: this year, the bad behavior of the skakuas in the territories of the white masters led to the fact that the harvest of Pshek strawberries was left half unharvested, since the EU limited the opportunities for the skakuas to enter their territory :: such a situation turned out to be a shortage for Polish agricultural magnates profits, and for the skakuas - a shortage of earnings (it’s not good news how much money could be made on strawberries, but they were full of belly and did not suffer from hunger (but how well economic geography fit in their heads!) )

[anjey]

On paper everything is so, but geopolitics with its ambitions and secret political and economic strategies, lead to annexations, occupations and wars, pushing all the rules, laws and decrees to hell

[hydrox]

Here are the recollections of the late 30s and brought to life among the gentry, dragged to the rallies "For the collapse of Belarus!"
They came out of the dressing room on crutches, having seen enough of the bandages stained with blood - hence the color analogies ...

[user1212]

Quote: Dmitry10SPb

1. For violating borders in Europe, they will be kicked out of the EU and NATO. Is it necessary?

Who was kicked out for violating the borders of Yugoslavia and the GDR?

Quote: Dmitry10SPb

2. A drop in the standard of living of its own population due to the annexation of territories with a weaker economy. Aussie and Vessey problem. Have you heard?

The fall will be so, the EU is tightening the screws, but here at least there will be an explanation

Quote: Dmitry10SPb

3. The acquisition of territories with an ethnically different and not particularly loyal population generates tensions.

And it unites the main composition of the people. In Crimea, Putin did not raise his ratings badly. Etoges guaranteed election victory in Poland and party leadership for ten years

[hydrox]

Quote: user1212

Well this is a guaranteed victory in the elections in Poland and party leadership for a dozen years

Correctly say, just to please Belarusians, one should not wave about phantom pains in severed stumps, but boast of achievements in the economy, and these "achievements" mark an anti-record now - the Polish national debt will amount to $ 30 billion by the end of the year, but before the rampant Solidarity, it was $ 6-7 billion, but there is no more industry in Poland (but it used to have a decent shipbuilding industry (even for the Union it built warships!)!
https://yandex.ru/news/instory/V_Polshe_deficit_byudzheta_v_2020_godu_mozhet_stat_rekordnym--acd8937c0a79189cd58c71579ae3c567?lr=44&content=alldocs&stid=9rXgQBxN&persistent_id=110272261&from=story

[Max otto]

If Putin had not congratulated Luka, but at least kept silent, and then would have begun to put pressure on him for deceiving the people, I think there would have been Russian flags. And then the people would start drowning for unification. But ... it all went wrong.

[Krev]

Have you read the congratulations text? There is not a word of joy about his re-election.

From the congratulations of Russian President Vladimir Putin to the elected head of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko, the wording about the confidence of the Belarusian people, as evidenced by the election results, disappeared.
In a similar congratulatory telegram from Putin in 2015, it was said that Lukashenka's “convincing victory” speaks of “high political authority and trust on the part of the population, as well as active support for the ongoing course towards further socio-economic development of the country”.

“I hope that your state activities will contribute to the further development of mutually beneficial Russian-Belarusian relations in all areas, deepening cooperation within the Union State, building up integration processes through the Eurasian Economic Union and the CIS, as well as military-political ties in the Collective Security Treaty Organization. ... This undoubtedly meets the fundamental interests of the fraternal peoples of Russia and Belarus, ”the head of the Russian state stressed in a telegram.

[SRC P-15]

If from Grodno to Poland and back, there are regular minibuses and some of the population have a "Pole's card", then it is not surprising that the flags of Poland appeared there! This was to be expected.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

and some of the population has a "Pole's card", it is not surprising that the flags of Poland appeared there! This was to be expected.

The Lublin Triangle, or rather the "Lublin Union" is inevitable, the work is already in full swing.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Temples

These are mainly young people.
This is an adventure for young people.

And that's it. And how many of the protesters in Grodno have "Pole cards" in their pockets?

[Vladimir Mashkov]

The opinion of some naive commentators simply amazes (I'm not talking about the numerous zmagars and corrupt paid authors and commentators). No, we're talking about ordinary Russians. Does anyone else doubt who are the TRUE authors of this "popular revolt"?

[Dmitry10SPb]

Is Lukashenko himself the real author? Even his supporters laugh at 80 percent of the vote. Conspiracy theorists eternally produce entities.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: Dmitry10SPb

Is Lukashenko himself the real author? Even his supporters laugh at 80 percent of the vote. Conspiracy theorists eternally produce entities.

No, the hasty "officer's daughter", not Rygorych. And your masters!
What are you all stupid: together registered in June-July. There is no way, like the SBU officers, to register ahead of time in winter ...

[Dmitry10SPb]

I registered here after I turned off commenting in Moskovsky Komsomolets. They'll turn it off here - maybe I'll register somewhere else. I love, you know, to make a couple of remarks under a glass of white. This is my hobby. There are no owners. My organization is directly subordinate to the Russian government. I don't understand you about my daughter.
And Cho Rygorych is not to blame? To release one (!) Oppositionist to the elections to consolidate all the votes "against", defiantly transplant other candidates, pass through early elections not 4-5, but 42% (!) Of votes, brazenly ascribe 80 (!) Percent all indiscriminately, to quarrel with Russia, to mumble in front of the shouting workers at the factory ... Take heart. I'll tell you the truth. Harsh. Your Rygorych is just a duuuurak.

[user1212]

Quote: Dmitry10SPb

Rygorych is just a duuuurak.

And we are not drowning for Lukashenka, he is not very good for us himself, but against the Polish Maidan in Belarus. It's one thing to overthrow the king, it's another to sell the homeland

[user1212]

Quote: Dmitry10SPb

Even his supporters laugh at 80 percent of the vote.

And don't they laugh at 10% of the “winning” Tikhanovskaya?
I would understand if the gap was 5-7% there can still be posed, but such a gap generally excludes any attempts to declare that the protest is popular

[FenH]

Quote: Temples

Flags of Poland spotted at a protest in Belarus

Just noticed now?
Where did you look before?

Only impunity attracts crowds to the streets.
These are mainly young people.
This is an adventure for young people.

Even Lenin understood the importance of working with young people, in the image and likeness of the scouts, created a pioneer. Plus the Komsomol. Now the West has won the war for the minds of young people, it's sad.
And from the merry one: the bulk devil was trapped in the plane with a seagull, there are suspicions that the crew commander was BASHAROV, and the flight attendant was PETROV, and the tea was NOVICHEK. Coming soon on all the news channels in the west

[Temples]

Quote: FenH

in the image and likeness of the scouts, created the pioneer.

It's a lie.
Americans have a completely different goal in raising children.

Was it a pioneer?
Do you remember the vow?

And read the laws

Children were taught to live in a social society. In a society of justice. In a society where people are honored who gave their lives for the life of their descendants, for the very existence of the country.

And these in the squares are cut off from the roots.

And Lukashenka personally participated in the creation of this opposition. He personally raised Russian haters.
It was Lukashenka who said that the wars of the Fatherland were Russian wars, and the Belarusians fell under the distribution.
The boy started playing the king.
So he gets it for his arrogance.

[FenH]

Quote: Temples

Quote: FenH

in the image and likeness of the scouts, created the pioneer.

It's a lie.

What's the lie? Or blurt out?
https://www.gazeta.ru/social/2017/05/18/10680641.shtml

[Temples]

The fact that Lenin created the pioneer in the likeness.
The pioneer was not created by Lenin.

The goals and objectives were different.

The pioneer was raised to be a citizen.

Scouts were raised to be a servant. Servant to the king, leader, president.

Do you understand the difference?

[FenH]

Quote: Temples

The fact that Lenin created the pioneer in the likeness.
The pioneer was not created by Lenin.

The goals and objectives were different.

The pioneer was raised to be a citizen.

Scouts were raised to be a servant. Servant to the king, leader, president.

Do you understand the difference?

It doesn't matter why the pioneer was created, but from whom
You apparently are not able to understand this

[hydrox]

Quote: FenH

It doesn't matter why the pioneer was created, but from whom

Cool call!
Do you at least a little bit realize that in the scout movement there is NOT AN AMOUNT of scout ideology? At the same time, no one claims that scouts are bad.
SCOUT is an instrument of respectful knowledge of the world, and PIONEER is the upbringing of a fighter for nationality, justice and collectivism of life (we do not speak for the quality of upbringing, Forbes and the prosperity of offshore banksters do it for us )

[FenH]

Quote: hydrox

Quote: FenH

It doesn't matter why the pioneer was created, but from whom

Cool call!
Do you at least a little bit realize that in the scout movement there is NOT AN AMOUNT of scout ideology? At the same time, no one claims that scouts are bad.
SCOUT is an instrument of respectful knowledge of the world, and PIONEER is the upbringing of a fighter for nationality, justice and collectivism of life (we do not speak for the quality of upbringing, Forbes and the prosperity of offshore banksters do it for us )

The conversation went on what was taken as a basis for the pioneer and why it was done, but otherwise you are absolutely right, just look at the "pioneer", "Komsomol member" and "communist" Chubais

[hydrox]

Quote: FenH

just look at the "pioneer", "Komsomolets" and "communist" Chubais

A reference example was given!
In the entire history of the Union, SO Vile pioneers, Komsomol members and communists have not been born, as the liberal energy engineer and First Deputy Prime Minister you mentioned (this forces me to remember with a series of swear words the former First villain-President of Russia).
Eternal memory in the hearts of the people to these two scoundrels (and the people for this trash really "in their hearts" (and this is a quarter of a century after the meanness they committed!))
"There were creatures more vicious, but there was no meaner!"

[Alex Justice]

Scouts were raised to be a servant.

Not true. I sent my daughter and went to them myself. An ordinary camp for children without propaganda.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: FenH

What's the lie? Or blurt out?

In the image and likeness, but in contrast. There were enough scouts in the USSR in the mid-20s.

[FenH]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: FenH

What's the lie? Or blurt out?

In the image and likeness, but in contrast. There were enough scouts in the USSR in the mid-20s.

I agree, only the temples of the meaning of words are not able to understand. The temples blurred the original meaning of my message with their lyrics, the conversation was about the struggle for the minds of young people and about instruments

[hydrox]

Everything is true, because it was in the NEP that a stratum of the bourgeoisie appeared in the Union, and in the 90s the lifting of numerous bans on the freedom of money circulation played a role: it was the abolition of non-cash payments that led to the emergence of liber thieves as gravediggers of socialism ..

[keksvnochi]

although I support the AGL policy in many respects, but then a bobble came out.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: FenH

And from the fun: the bulk of the seagull was trashed in the plane, there are suspicions that the commander of the crew was BASHAROV, and the flight attendant was PETROV, and in the tea was NOVICHEK.

What's so funny? The person was sent to intensive care, unconscious

[FenH]

Quote: Stirbjorn

Quote: FenH

And from the fun: the bulk of the seagull was trashed in the plane, there are suspicions that the commander of the crew was BASHAROV, and the flight attendant was PETROV, and in the tea was NOVICHEK.

What's so funny? The person was sent to intensive care, unconscious

Yes, a vegetable on him, I see no reason to be sad

[mole]

Quote: Stirbjorn

What's so funny? The person was sent to intensive care, unconscious

In this whole story, I feel sorry for the cat the most.

[Incvizitor]

When did this liberal become a man?

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Incvizitor

When did this liberal become a man?

Well, everything, from the local cotton wool This is after Odessa, the same brothers in mind from the Ukrainian side, shouted that they were not burning people there, but Colorado

[Incvizitor]

Since just the likeness of our liberals who seized power there and killed people in Odessa.

[hydrox]

Say thank you that the accordions did not tear and the guitars did not hit the followers of this moral and ethical fall on the heads ...

[boni592807]

Colleague, FenH (Finn) Today, 08:50, NEW _ maybe it's even easier, "partners" forge iron in Russia too. Not necessarily themselves, there are enough keepers, and not the first (sacred sacrifice) ... Why not unwind your gesheft? Here she is a sacred sacrifice and time and place and "image". All by the moment. NATO exercises, "moving" from Germany to Russia closer to the US troops, Belarus, is not the first, but in terms of time and moment the most impudent action of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (U "Ukraine)" is to seize and attempt to withdraw a citizen of Russia FROM RUSSIA. Understandable with the potential support of curators But, the direction of thoughts and actions, events is very weighty. HINTS further actions. And with the YOUTH, we are neglected, and not only, but partners, they will not miss it ...

[FenH]

Quote: boni592807

Colleague, FenH (Finn) Today, 08:50, NEW _ maybe it's even easier, "partners" forge iron in Russia too. Not necessarily themselves, there are enough keepers, and not the first (sacred sacrifice) ... Why not unwind your gesheft? Here she is a sacred sacrifice and time and place and "image". All by the moment. NATO exercises, "moving" from Germany to Russia closer to the US troops, Belarus, is not the first, but in terms of time and moment the most impudent action of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (U "Ukraine)" is to seize and attempt to withdraw a citizen of Russia FROM RUSSIA. Understandable with the potential support of curators But, the direction of thoughts and actions, events is very weighty. HINTS further actions. And with the YOUTH, we are neglected, and not only, but partners, they will not miss it ...

They are already writing that alcohol in the blood has been detected, it may turn out that Kurvasie also got sick

[hydrox]

This is bad news :: it would be GOOD "if they didn’t take him - he died in an ambulance while carrying out resuscitation measures" ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: Temples

Flags of Poland spotted at a protest in Belarus
Just noticed now?

Actually the actions (anti-government earlier, pro-government a little later) "painted" in quite definitely distinguishable colors.
Some of the "zmagar" ones with shades of the flags of the European Union and now also of Poland, and the "Soviet", red-green official flag of the Republic of Belarus ...

Moreover, some are already seeing a split in the country over the geographic nature of the protests.

"West", (the western regions of the Republic of Belarus, where the opposition is most active) and the rest of the Republic of Belarus ...

Quote: Temples

This is an adventure for young people.

Alas, young people themselves are not always able to assess at what point this adventure is ...

[Snail N9]

And what flags should these people, who have made what they say, the "European choice", wave? Russian? They sleep and see how they will go to the Poles to live in sheds and barracks, work on the plantations of the Polish "lords" and at the Polish factories for the production of packaging material, as it is already, they make "skakunasy" ..... really I'm afraid "skakunasy" there they They will not be happy, because competition and all that, and the price of "skakunasskiy" labor is already small, then it will fall even more because of the influx of "made the European choice" Belarusians ...

[minipig79]

If your education, professional skills do not allow you to do work, except for a laborer, then yes. But somehow, for the most part, people come out of the middle class, so to speak. Enough and really well off.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Insurgent

Moreover, some are already seeing a split in the country over the geographic nature of the protests.
"West" (western regions of Belarus, where the opposition is most active) and the rest of the Republic of Belarus ..

In the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, the Belarusians were treated more loyally than the Ukrainians, and as part of Poland in 1920, the attitude towards Belarusians was better, so now they are drawn to the pans. Even now, guest workers from Belarus are in better conditions than their counterparts from the "Lyakhovskaya okrajna".

[hydrox]

Do you think that Russia will allow the separation of Western Belarus from the rest of the country in favor of Poland?
In vain: these Russian lands became Polish in the 20s of the twentieth century at the height of the civil war in Russia, but by the 40s the situation had been corrected with the entire axis from Ukraine to Estonia (the happiness of the Finns that they did not fall under the hot hand (the White Finnish war was a failure for the Union and showed the Red Army's unreadiness to fight a motivated enemy!)).

[Thrifty]

Now members of the forum from Belarus will "prove" to us that agents of the FSB of Russia were running around with the flags of Poland in order to disguise themselves in the ranks of the protesters in this way. ..

[K-612-O]

Yeah, yesterday there were such people who argued that Polish intelligence did not stand behind Nechta, which is supported by the Polish budget, and one of the editors was the coordinator of the Maidan in Sumeria

[Interlocutor]

The Belarusian white-red flag turns even an average breeze into a Polish one. (joke, with a grain of truth). Nearby, everything is near. Ears are obliged to grow in these places from Poland.

[minipig79]

Why prove stupidity. God knows who was standing with the flag of Poland. Maybe a Pole who came to Belarus. Maybe a resident of Grodno who wants to live in Poland. In Minsk, there were no flags other than white-red-white. Otherwise, they would certainly ask the question of what the hell a person walks with the flag of another country. The same is true for the Russian flag. It would be inappropriate to see him at the protests.

[hydrox]

Can you tell me from what year the white-red-white sheet with the coat of arms of Moscow became the Belarusian flag (not counting the years of occupation, when nationalists went with this flag (trash is no better than Ukrainian!))?

[Vend]

Yes, there they caught up with rabid hamsters and Nazis from all countries

[vkl.47]

Here minus for this rag.

[hydrox]

So the rag is an enemy !!

[Same lech]

Numerous Belarusian political scientists, including those who act as guests of political talk shows in Russia, constantly say that the protesters do not oppose the Russian Federation

They lie without batting an eye.
If there are militants from Ukraine and Russophobic Poland in the ranks of these protesters, one hundred percent such a rally will be anti-Russian.

[Temples]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

such a meeting will be anti-Russian.

They simply have no other unifying theme.
They create an enemy and then fight him to the last Ukrainian or Georgian. Now the Belarusians are under the distribution.

The main thing is to stop the work of snipers.
These revolutionaries will squint at the "protesters" without regret.

History must be taught in schools.
And to make sure that the children learn the knowledge well.

Including the history of coups. To say that you can easily be killed at a meeting. And those who organized this rally will be killed.
Technology demands.

[Orange bigg]

Their common theme is a contract to oppose Russia commissioned by the United States. They are simply working out American money. There are not many other options to earn from them.

[Same lech]

Now the Belarusians are under the distribution.

Will the Kremlin look at all this in silence or will they do something to avoid repeating the same story as with Ukraine.
The West calls on Russia not to interfere in the situation in Belarus ... as I understand it, they want to overthrow the current government of Belarus with Russia's inaction ... this cannot be allowed .... Russia will be next if the EU manages to pull off its machination in Belarus.

[Orange bigg]

Russia will be next if the EU manages to pull off its shenanigans in Belarus.

Seriously? Does anyone in Russia have a map of a Pole? I do not see a clear connection between Belomaidan and possible protests in Russia. When we had a swamp, it did not affect Belarus in any way, why should what is happening with them now have an impact on us?

[Same lech]

Seriously, does anyone in Russia have a map of a Pole? I don't see a clear connection between Belomaidan and possible protests in Russia.

There are many things you don’t see or don’t want to see.
For example, how Belarusian youth are brainwashed with lies that are replicated on social networks ... and this lie is actively broadcast by Poles, Balts, Ukrainians ... this is only a small part of the subversive activities leading against Belarus ... judging by your comment, you are also participating in this.
As for Russia, since a lot of Belarusians are in Russia and they inevitably share their views with the Russians, and there are certainly those who want to transfer the banner of the color revolution to Russia.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

For example, how Belarusian youth are brainwashed with lies replicated in social networks ...

This is all true, however, our enemy began to be blown up by his own mines over and over again, which is aggravated by economic problems many times over, and today the United States is teetering on the brink of a civil war ...

[Same lech]

This is all true, however, our enemy began to blow up on his own mines over and over again,

In Belarus, the subversive work of not the United States is more visible, but its vassals ... Poland, the Balts, the French, etc. ... it looks like the United States decided to entrust all the dirty work to them.
In any case, it is necessary to protect Belarus from their subversive activities ... in this case, it is necessary to very delicately not interfere in the internal affairs of the Belarusians themselves.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

In Belarus, the subversive work of not the United States is more visible, but its vassals ... Poland, the Balts, the French, etc. ... it looks like the United States decided to entrust all the dirty work to them.

As in all countries of "color revolutions", warm vassals do the dirty work.

[Orange bigg]

judging by your comment, you are also involved in this.

God forbid to participate in this. I just did not see the connection. The revolution is brewing in each country individually. Remember Lenin's words. It is like an element. It cannot be foreseen or created artificially. And the information war is going on all the time; it never ended. They lie and brainwash for many years in a row, and as you know, water wears away a stone over time.

surely among them there are those wishing to transfer the banner of the color revolution to Russia.

Desires here one malo.U each country has its own individual destiny. The situation should mature, if it is of course suzhdeno.Svoi revolutions and Maidans in Russia were in the 90s.

[Same lech]

The revolution is brewing in each country individually.

I agree ... but the general rules for color revolutions are the same ...
1. Separation of the political elite from the interests of their state and switching to the interests of another state, on the content of which this elite is.
2. Active brainwashing of young people and the creation of assault units like the Nazi units of Rem.
3. Active propaganda against the current government.
4. Active external infamy ... diplomatic (lies and deception), economic (sanctions), military (threats).
And then ... then ... it is a multifaceted painstaking work of subversive forces.

[DenZ]

Quote: OrangeBigg

why should what is happening to them now have an impact on us?

Because the psychology of a person and the psychology of the crowd, even though Belarusians, are the same. And as soon as in Russia conditions are created for people to go out into the street, those who need to pick up the protest will go out of their way to rock the situation. Take at least the same Khabarovsk. Only Khabarovsk residents at the protests?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: DenZ

Because the psychology of a person and the psychology of the crowd, even though Belarusians, are the same.

This was developed at the Tavistock Institute back in 1968. The Swarming Crowds - Fred Emery's theory - is the classic student crowd that held rallies and protests at the Sorbonne. The result turned out to be interesting, and gave a lot of new material - and finally it was fixed by the fact that Charles de Gaulle was forced to resign.

[user1212]

Quote: DenZ

Only Khabarovsk residents at the protests?

I already wrote something here, they go and ask the locals how to get to the station, where to have a cheaper snack, etc. Well, what can you do, the Liberal Democratic Party's asset is scored on rallies, those who have dropped out must be filled up. Those who are piled up like to work, holidays, borders are closed, dad and mom were not sent to Thailand ...

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

The West calls on Russia not to interfere in the situation in Belarus ...

More than one road to Hell has been paved with Russia's non-intervention

[saigon]

The same LEKHA (Alexey)
Yesterday, 08: 50

+4
Now the Belarusians are under the distribution.

Will the Kremlin look at all this in silence or will they do something to avoid repeating the same story as with Ukraine.
The West calls on Russia not to interfere in the situation in Belarus ... as I understand it, they want to overthrow the current government of Belarus with Russia's inaction ... this cannot be allowed .... Russia will be next if the EU manages to pull off its machination in Belarus.
What, what can our country do in this situation?
Understand at the end, thank you for this you need to say Lukashenka, his 80% of his riot police and his vovchiks, he drove Russia into a situation where any move only makes it worse!
By supporting Lukashenka we are losing, let's say, our image in the eyes of a large part of Belarusians, and there is practically no one to support us anymore, who made such a situation?
Who can Russia count on in Belarus at the moment, young people did not live in the same country with us, our country is one of the neighboring countries for them, and nothing more, they do not care that the economy of Belarus without our subsidies is fiction.
You say the next will be Russia, I want to upset you will not, but already there.
While we are here discussing the situation in Belarus, we are already beginning and I'm not talking about Khabarovsk, there is still a local front and not particularly dangerous for the country.
It is necessary to look with all eyes at Bashkiria, it becomes dangerous there, where citizens with foreign property and permanent residence permit are trying to demolish the mountain.
There are still eco-activists and it seems like the commercial interests of grabber, such as profit.
It's just that it is dangerous to create such tension in the national republic, and whether gentlemen businessmen with foreign property and passports are doing this on purpose, that's who already needs to be shaken about their plans.

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Temples

The main thing is to stop the work of snipers.
These revolutionaries will squint at the "protesters" without regret.

Well yes. The German media are already beginning to talk about the allegedly arrived in Minsk special forces of the Russian Federation.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

If there are militants from Ukraine and Russophobic Poland in the ranks of these protesters, one hundred percent such a rally will be anti-Russian.

And they arrived in Belarus not yesterday, but much earlier, and the organization of all these "protests" was organized not without their participation. And just before that, the creation of the "Lublin Triangle" was announced.

[parusnik]

J. Orruel ... Animal farm ... This pig grew, grew ... and grew ... What grew? ... What grew, then grew ... And it should have happened ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: parusnik

J. Orruel ... Animal farm ... This pig grew, grew ... and grew ... What grew? ... What grew, then grew ... And it should have happened ...

And in the same place in George Orwell - "All animals are equal, but among them there are more equal."

[Boris55]

The appearance of Polish flags at a protest in Grodno

Lukashenka only presses the Russians according to the principle: "Beat your own, so that the strangers are afraid," but the strangers have got used to it for so many years and it does not frighten them anymore, so they are greedy.

[svp67]

These are not flags, these are SPONSOR'S ADVERTISING

[Livonetc]

Exactly.
The one who pays and dances.
However, Russia is somehow weak with this.
He gives money by orders of magnitude more, but he is rigidly shy to ask or does not know how.
So you yourself need to either learn to ask or stop sponsoring.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Livonetc

He gives money by orders of magnitude more, but he is rigidly shy to ask or does not know how.

Yes, not just money, but tens of billions with the face of the President of the United States.

[hrych]

Lukashenka must understand one thing, that this time he resisted, and the next time will not. Before the elections, this setup with the "heroes" in order to embroil with Russia on the eve of the riot, etc. Therefore, it is urgent to unite the states together, his small-town policy is over, no one else will allow him to hang out in the hole ...

[Vol4ara]

Quote: hrych

Lukashenka must understand one thing, that this time he resisted, and the next time will not. Before the elections, this setup with the "heroes" in order to embroil with Russia on the eve of the riot, etc. Therefore, it is urgent to unite the states together, his small-town policy is over, no one else will allow him to hang out in the hole ...

Hold on? Are you seriously?

[hrych]

When they are overthrown, like Yanukovych, they give me zinc ...

[taiga2018]

Doesn't the absence of the state flags of Belarus itself at such rallies surprise anyone?

[Boris55]

It would be strange to wave the national flag at an anti-state rally.
But on about state - it's as much as you like:

[taiga2018]

Quote: Boris55

waving the national flag at an anti-state rally

But listen, we, too, at one time, "non-systemists" at their actions waved whatever rags they wanted, but not the flags of Russia, and after that they apparently realized their mistake and now they have at least one state flag ...

[Boris55]

Quote: taiga2018

and now they have at least one state flag ...

Tricolot is still the state flag imposed on us as a crypto colony.
So there is nothing surprising in this.

The tricolor is Kerensky, who practically brought the country to collapse.
Tricolor is the Vlasovites and other rabble that came with the Nazis to destroy us.
Tricolor is the destruction of the first state of workers and peasants in the world - the USSR.

[Volodin]

Quote: Boris55

Tricolot is still the state flag imposed on us as a crypto colony Tricolor is

And before Kerensky and Vlasov we had no history?
Tricolor, no matter how they treat it, is the creation of a strong fleet by Peter. If you forgot, then go to the central naval museum in St. Petersburg.

[Boris55]

Quote: Volodin

And before Kerensky and Vlasov we had no history?

Peter 1 was forced to accept the tricolor, but only for merchant ships, otherwise the then "World Progressive Community" would have recognized them as pirate with all the consequences. The state tricolor was adopted only under Kerensky and Yeltsin.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Boris55

It would be strange to wave the national flag at an anti-state rally.

Here is the answer to the question "What is this?" protest about the illegality of the elections, or a coup.

[minipig79]

I will send the curious a photo with the Russian flag from the Lukashenka rally. There "suddenly" and St. George's ribbon appeared, which Lukashenka seems to disapprove of. Write your mail, I will send a photo. The theme of the absolute layman is what he writes.
PS / For those who do not know geography well. Grodno stands on the border with Poland, they constantly visit here and there, the pro-Polish sentiments are very strong. There have never been any Polish banners in Minsk.

[taiga2018]

Quote: minipig79

I will send a photo with the Russian flag from the Lukashenka rally. There "suddenly" and St. George's ribbon appeared

In the news on some channel, St. George's ribbon really flashed, not even a ribbon, but a ribbon in the form of a flag, I even rubbed my eyes, did it seem to me ...

[A. Privalov]

Behold, the life has been there until this day! No oligarchs for you, no withdrawals of billions in offshores, there is work, wages are paid on time, the retirement age is not raised ... Neither liberals, nor LGBT people ... Even the tap water was not drunk and the elephant in the zoo is alive and well! And everything is itching to them. Strange people - they don't understand their happiness.

[Boris55]

Quote: A. Privalov

No oligarchs for you, no withdrawals of billions to offshore, there is work, salaries are paid on time, the retirement age is not raised ...

Do you think that Luka, and others like him, have no accounts abroad? Russia supplies them with orders, which allows them to pay wages.

"Retirement age in Belarus as of 1 January 2020 set at 57 years for women, 62 years for men. Compared to July 1, 2019, it has increased by six months. The old-age pension is assigned to women born in the second half of 1963 and to men born in the second half of 1958 ... "

The instruction from the IMF on the retirement age applies not only to Russia, but also to all former ones.

[taiga2018]

Quote: A. Privalov

Strange people - they don't understand their happiness.

Sometimes there is such a massive insanity with the people, remember how under Gaddafi in Libya, too, did not live badly, but now everything is "good" for them.

[Servisinzhener]

Too many people are not able to think one step forward or to transfer a similar situation in another country to themselves. And until they themselves do not get in the way of them will not reach. As in an anecdote about three men and a bottle of alcohol.

[minipig79]

Otherwise, I can’t explain the desire of Russians to nullify the inevitable other than “mass insanity”. This, if you do not see that everyone in the Russian Federation is on fire on what the world is worth this very pu.

[Gardamir]

Remember Libya, it was the same. And in Iraq, Hussein was not such a dictator

[Alexey RA]

Quote: A. Privalov

They didn't even drink the water in the tap and the elephant in the zoo is alive and well!

And the bread of the past year's harvest is also in place.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Alexey RA

Quote: A. Privalov

They didn't even drink the water in the tap and the elephant in the zoo is alive and well!

And the bread of the past year's harvest is also in place.

[minipig79]

He walks, not understanding what he is writing about. The retirement age in Belarus was raised BEFORE YOURS! Kakkey trainers (state clubs) in our Bentleys get into an accident. The surname ChIZh obviously won't tell you anything either. Sometimes chewing is better than writing.

[Tank jacket]

Poland wants its empire, but does not understand that the imperial spirit is incompatible with Polish nationalism.
Belarusians will bow to a passing Pole.

[Cyril G ...]

that the imperial spirit is incompatible with Polish nationalism.

Absolutely...

[saigon]

Empire is first of all an idea, the imperial spirit is the awareness of the right to carry the ideas of one's empire outside of it, an empire is a temptation.
And you are right to create an empire with nationalism.

[Asad]

Well, not Japan flags will be there! Naturally, the assistants came from Poland as if without them!

[tatra]

This is exactly where the white-red-white flags of the Belarusian separatists and collaborators in the Great Patriotic War appeared from somewhere. This proves once again that a coup d'etat in Belarus was being prepared long before the presidential elections.

[minipig79]

There has always been a part of the population fighting for the bel-chirvona-white flag. Let there be nationalists. And since pro-Lukashenko's rallies are held under the red-green flag, the protests are held under the white-red-white. And what is so terrible?
That there really was an unimaginable number of them. Those who wanted them had them earlier. Now there are a lot of people who sew. Or does it seem to you that sewing two-color fabric is highly skilled labor? On the balcony one floor below me, a flag was hung from a sheet, with a red-dyed center. And so they do. How to look for a black cat where it is not ...

[Incvizitor]

On the territory of the former Ukraine, too, was there nothing terrible when the Nazis nursed them with Bandera rags? This is the same thing.

[minipig79]

Quote: Incvizitor

On the territory of the former Ukraine, too, was there nothing terrible when the Nazis nursed them with Bandera rags? This is the same thing.

Bandera killed Soviet citizens. Specific information about who killed him under the white-red-white flag.

[Incvizitor]

The BKA took an active part in operations against the partisans until July 1944. The BKA commanders were directly subordinate to the SS command and coordinated their actions directly with the German authorities. Among the operations in which units of the "Belarusian regional abaron" took part, together with the SS and the police, the operation "Fryulingsfest" ("Spring Festival"), carried out in the area of ​​Polotsk and Lepel, was distinguished, as a result of which local units of Soviet partisans lost more than 80% their personnel.

[BAI]

Numerous Belarusian political scientists, including those who act as guests of political talk shows in Russia, constantly say that the protesters do not oppose the Russian Federation

It is against the Russian Federation. Whether they realize it or not (ie, the protesters are used in the dark). The power transfer council is Russophobic, the head of the council is located in Russophobic (violently Russophobic) Poland. The flags are not in vain. The classic color revolution aimed at alienating Belarus from the Russian Federation.

[minipig79]

Of course, you have the right to consider anything Russophobic. And rain coming from the sky, and flags at the protests. Paronoia and schizophrenia have not been canceled. Why is the head of the council in Poland? Who are you talking about (surname)? Again I hear the ringing, but I do not know where ... Why are the protesters led not from the Russian Federation? So your authorities wanted to arrest Tsepkalo, barely had time to get rid of. You will gladly hand over any protester to torture. What the hell do you have to have someone ??

[rotmistr60]

Poland's red and white flags are also seen

Who orders the music, the girl and dances. Or maybe it's time to put aside all curtsies with Europe and finally show your grin. How long can we tolerate (expressing concern) all European provocations (especially Poles and limitrophes), receive sanctions from them through the EU, verbal diarrhea ... We still economically support the hostile state of Ukraine, referring to the "brotherly people". Maybe it's time to come to your senses and understand that these "brothers", including Europeans, will not rest until they receive a face. Proven by history.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: rotmistr60

Or maybe it's time to put aside all curtsies with Europe and finally show your grin. How long can we tolerate (expressing concern) all European provocations (especially Poles and limitrophes), receive sanctions from them through the EU, verbal diarrhea ... We still economically support the hostile state of Ukraine, referring to the "brotherly people". Maybe it's time to come to your senses and understand that these "brothers", including the Europeans, will not rest until they receive a face. Proven by history.

Undoubtedly. And most importantly, there are simply no other options.

[minipig79]

It is high time to stop supporting any state other than your own. But your leadership is not interested in that.
In Vologda, the mayor asked to cancel school uniforms - many parents cannot afford to buy them for their children.
Ouch, maybe enough eggs someday to call to account?

[bukhach]

Is this according to your current scenario? Dismiss, we will somehow figure out who to answer to call and, most importantly, how. As for the support of any states, I completely agree with you, only business relations and no snot.

[minipig79]

Quote: Buhach

Is this according to your current scenario? Dismiss, we will somehow figure out who to answer to call and, most importantly, how. As for the support of any states, I completely agree with you, only business relations and no snot.

So why don't you demand from the "popularly elected" GDP that there would be purely business relations? Or in the Russian Federation the people are not the main power, according to the Constitution ???

[saigon]

Sorry Denis, but we have presidential elections in 2024, and it’s elections.
And let's say it's not tactful to call the president that way.

[Igor Litvin]

There were also Russian tricolors. See tapes.

[Igor Litvin]

please rally on August 16:
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[Irek]

Much without podlyakhs, in each barrel a plug.

[Gardamir]

By the way, about the absence of Russophobic calls. The West is a good student. First, allegedly against Lukashenka, and they will hang them later.
Now they are honing the skills of the militants, who are supposedly nightmares by riot police.

[saigon]

Mr. General of the Army, what do you think their OMON, to put it mildly, did not overdo it with the distribution of the right and left?
Began to thresh so bring it to the end, no, you need to create a picture for the whole world, be branded as a dictator, and not to complete the suppression of protests, not to take into account the simple thing like a PHONE with a camera for everyone and stupidly grab the journalists, I apologize, but in the army it is called VALET.
And unfortunately, Yanukovych comes to my mind.

[rocket757]

One can imagine how violent the reaction of the same European Union would be if the Russian tricolor appeared at any mass action in Belarus.

But for this, butt it was necessary to truncate sho can be shortened for a long time!
We don’t need to, they went under our flag, but when they roam freely on the flags of the ENEMY, this is already a Kirdets.
It's a simple division, a friend is an enemy ... that's what the old / new president has stirred up, he is not a friend, worse than an enemy, because under the guise.
And "our wise men" have almost played out that now they can not stutter about the "Russian world", there would not be finally in the ring of enemies !!!
It's very worth seeing who is their friend and who is their enemy ... it's time to draw the right conclusions and the right ACTION! only a sharply sharpened "pencil" of a suitable size comes to mind! otherwise they will not be stopped until they know that for their deeds, stupidity, betrayal they will receive the corresponding "reward"!

[vvvjak]

One can imagine how violent the reaction of the same European Union would be if the Russian tricolor appeared at any mass action in Belarus.

Rally for Lukashenka in Gomel. Where is the violent reaction?

[babylon]

What are you comparing the mass character and isolated cases which in reality reflect the will of the people and not the PR of customers?

[vvvjak]

Quote: vavilon

What are you comparing the mass character and isolated cases which in reality reflect the will of the people and not the PR of customers?

Yes, I do not compare. In the photo in the article there are two flags of Poland and on this one there are two flags of the Russian Federation. Can we draw conclusions based on this photo that the rallies for Lukashenka were paid for by the Russian oligarchs? I think not. If I was forced to go to the rally for Lukashenka, I would also rather take the Russian flag.

[babylon]

Nobody will force me to go to a rally even for money, but if I go then of my own free will and only with a red flag
Because today the predators that surround Belarus are Russian oligarchs and the West wants to tear Belarus to shreds and divide among themselves, of course, everyone will try to bite more.

[Servisinzhener]

The true ins and outs of the protests came in. For the second week we are being told that we do not understand anything and all this opposition is simply for fair elections. I hope everyone managed to get acquainted with their program? If not, I highly recommend it. Especially for those who still believe that the Belarusian opposition is not aiming at lace underwear and striving for Europe.

[babylon]

This generation was brought up on the myth that in the West you can live without working, although half of them do not know what capitalism is
One simple thing to be raised is that the west is a trap,
west is sunset where there is no light and no future.

[minipig79]

Tell us, the generation 1979-1980. where you can live well without working, open your eyes to the silly ones. At the rallies, there are no ragamuffins, drunks, marginalized, homeless people. All working people, mostly from the middle class. Therefore, no need to talk about naive fools and jelly banks.

[babylon]

Do not subscribe for everyone
People who work at rallies do not attend, they work under any government
And children of the eighties and who grew up in the nineties will not surprise me with their demands "We want everything at once and not to sweat"

[minipig79]

I don't have the habit of subscribing for everyone. I speak for myself, my wife, comrades and acquaintances. Moreover, 13-15 percent of them are quite for Lukashenka. But not 80! In the afternoon I go to work in the construction department (the management did not dare to go on strike - there are many objects with state funding). In the evening and on weekends, I join the protesters as much as I can.

[babylon]

Your reasons don't say anything
For example, my relatives and all my friends in Belarus are almost 100% for Lukashenka (one young smartest 23 out of 48 people as the majority of young people for the revolution)

[dobrik10]

Apparently on the templates and Belarus has matured. The islanders have a holiday apparently incredible, another state was shaken under "democratic influence" ...

[Pavel73]

It is impossible to succumb to this deception "we are not against Russia!" Precisely against! The stupid demand for Lukashenka's resignation in the absence of any other proposals is purely Western pressure, and nothing more. And Lukashenka's only fault is that he is not an enemy of Russia. This is the only reason they want to remove him.

[Russia without ...]

And they say he planted a pro-Russian Babarik and shouted on Tikhanovskaya that she was a project of the RF .. is not true?

[Pavel73]

What he said and shouted to the opposition - it does not matter. Stirlitz also shouted "High Hitler!" All anti-Russian quirks of Lukashenka are only to demonstrate the political independence of Belarus from Russia. So that not a single canal would dare to reproach him for being a pawn of Moscow. But in important issues of fundamental importance (language, border, freedom of religion, industrial and military cooperation, memory of the war, rejection of Russophobia and nationalism) Lukashenka is our adherent. And its violent overthrow is categorically unacceptable. Even if they are pro-Russian forces.

[Russia without ...]

So what? So not a single channel reproached him for being a pawn of Moscow? The Kanalyas thought he was 100% independent?))

[Pavel73]

One hundred - not one hundred, but he is not a pawn. He is not "our man", but our associate. Equal.

[Russia without ...]

Come on already .. I can see everyone whose like-minded he is .. Himself in power ..
He will sell, buy, and again sell anyone, just to stay in the chair ..

[Pavel73]

Just about, the West with all its liver wants the whole of Belarus and the whole of Russia to think so. Throw it off, throw it off! This prince is bad, not good. I repeat - all his fault is that he is not an enemy of Russia. The West needs to place an enemy. As in Ukraine. And in this struggle, the West is trying to use even pro-Russian forces.

[Russia without ...]

And without the West and its livers, this is not visible, right?))

[Pavel73]

What and how, I have already explained, see above. I'm not going to feed the troll.

[minipig79]

Quote: Pavel73

What he said and shouted to the opposition - it does not matter. Stirlitz also shouted "High Hitler!" All anti-Russian quirks of Lukashenka are only to demonstrate the political independence of Belarus from Russia. So that not a single canal would dare to reproach him for being a pawn of Moscow. But in important issues of fundamental importance (language, border, freedom of religion, industrial and military cooperation, memory of the war, rejection of Russophobia and nationalism) Lukashenka is our adherent. And its violent overthrow is categorically unacceptable. Even if they are pro-Russian forces.

Do you know examples in the surrounding countries of some kind of "St. Bartholomew's Nights" because of religion? In my opinion, nowadays it is not the Middle Ages, in Europe no one is discriminating against it because of religion. Military cooperation is what the joint venture MZKT has to do with the Russian Federation? Is that why BAZ began to develop Almaz-Antey? Probably, due to close military cooperation, the Russian Federation is now preparing an over-the-horizon station on its territory to replace the current one near Baranovichi. So?
And how will I stop speaking Russian, my native language since childhood? How would Victory Day for me suddenly cease to be a great holiday? Write some kind of crap, what's in your head at all?

[minipig79]

Quote: Pavel73

It is impossible to succumb to this deception "we are not against Russia!" Precisely against! The stupid demand for Lukashenka's resignation in the absence of any other proposals is purely Western pressure, and nothing more. And Lukashenka's only fault is that he is not an enemy of Russia. This is the only reason they want to remove him.

Do you live in RB? Maybe you constantly come to visit someone? Based on what do you conclude, what is the fault? Should I judge your life by ORT and RTR?

[Pavel73]

Based on information from those residents of Minsk, which I knew long before these events.

[minipig79]

Quote: Pavel73

Based on information from those residents of Minsk, which I knew long before these events.

I have acquaintances in various cities of Russia. But this does not mean that they directly express the will of the entire population, right? And among my comrades and acquaintances there are those who support Lukashenka. Because of this, they do not become my enemies. The bottom line is that, in reality, Lukashenka is supported by about 13-15%, this is 130000-150000 people. rough. But at the moment there is much more against it.

[Pavel73]

Where does the information come from, which is much more against? Just because they have a bigger crowd? So there is a reason for that. Who are FOR - those work. And they have no time to row. Those who are AGAINST - they quit their jobs and gather in a crowd. That is why protest crowds are always larger. And because of this, it seems that EVERYONE is against. Even one hundred thousand people in no way mean the majority of the population. This is just a skillful manipulation of the consciousness of those who see from the outside. "Look what a human sea! It's ALL people!" But this is absolutely not the case. This is an insignificant percentage of the people gathered in one place. To provide psychological and even physical pressure on the authorities.

[Russia without ...]

Why be surprised .. Poles probably do not tell Belarusians that they need to beat them harder to listen

[mace]

Well, that's great - you can immediately take these "Poles", they are real provocateurs

[minipig79]

Quote from rudolf

If initially the protest movement in Belarus could be called spontaneous, now the interested parties are really trying to take control of it. These are the Baltics, Poland, Ukraine, the European Union, and the States. Except for Russia, which has taken a purely pro-Lukashen position. So why are they surprised that Russian flags are not visible, but Polish ones appeared? African ones will appear soon.
If Lukashenka failed to prevent this "disgrace", Russia had and still has the opportunity to lead him. Negotiate with Tikhanovskaya, representatives of Tsipkalo, Babariko, achieve repeat elections and nominate their own candidate. Believe me, in this situation, half of all the flags at the rallies would be Russian. And now ... After Putin congratulated Lukashenko on winning the election, many consider Russia a traitor. That Russia does not need Belarusians, but purely territory and industry. If the Kremlin continues to support Lukashenka, then he may keep him, but Belarus will lose forever.

Golden words, Semyon Semyonitch! Very outraged by the congratulations Pu. Well, he washes hand and hand ... Who cares about the opinion of the residents there.

[Diviz]

Poles took out a mortgage and acquired real estate in Grodno. Why not. Despite the fact that in Poland there are many concentration camps left after the 2nd world war. We also have Gypsies who first move to the countryside and then move to the suburbs. Building cottages. Only nobody lives there.

[minipig79]

Quote from DiViZ

Poles took out a mortgage and acquired real estate in Grodno. Why not. Despite the fact that in Poland there are many concentration camps left after the 2nd world war. We also have Gypsies who first move to the countryside and then move to the suburbs. Building cottages. Only nobody lives there.

H'm. I haven’t heard that Poles can buy real estate in the Republic of Belarus. Have you written what you are sure of? Or is this an assumption?

[Alexfly]

The idea of ​​Rzecz Pospolita-2 is being promoted very strongly, it is true as an economic union, but this is only for now ... And the fact that OE doesn't like something is OE's problem.

[minipig79]

Quote: The same Lech

Numerous Belarusian political scientists, including those who act as guests of political talk shows in Russia, constantly say that the protesters do not oppose the Russian Federation

They lie without batting an eye.
If there are militants from Ukraine and Russophobic Poland in the ranks of these protesters, one hundred percent such a rally will be anti-Russian.

Respected. And how, pray tell, in the crowd generally determine who is the cop in disguise, who is from Ukraine-Poland-Russia? It can be argued that although Australians are running around at the rally, how do you identify them?

[minipig79]

Quote: taiga2018

Quote: minipig79

I will send a photo with the Russian flag from the Lukashenka rally. There "suddenly" and St. George's ribbon appeared

In the news on some channel, St. George's ribbon really flashed, not even a ribbon, but a ribbon in the form of a flag, I even rubbed my eyes, did it seem to me ...

So notice. At first, Lukashenka was sure that there would be no mass disturbances. Therefore, he could invent stories about some kind of Russian saboteurs (by the way, after the elections, no one at all mentioned the remaining 170 people, allegedly also in the Republic of Bashkortostan), spit in the direction of the Russian Federation. Now, when it smelled of fried, he pulled out the Russian flags, and some kind of St. George's cloth, and the flag of the USSR, more real support except for him he has nowhere to wait. So evaluate the "true friend of Russia" by his deeds, not his words!

[user1212]

Quote: minipig79

So evaluate the "true friend of Russia" by his deeds, not his words!

When will you stop confusing warm and soft?

[Alex 2020]

So psheks have long dreamed of crushing the territory of Belarus. Like it's their historical land. And maps where the territory of Belarus is listed as the territory of pshek has long been.

[Incvizitor]

It is strange that while the Bandera rags are hiding, they get along with the Belarusian Nazis all the time.

[garm]

The protesters have a strange position ... Lukashenka-go away! Well, they will leave Lukashenka, and then what? "Are we the old world to the core?"

[minipig79]

Quote: Alex 2020

So psheks have long dreamed of crushing the territory of Belarus. Like it's their historical land. And maps where the territory of Belarus is listed as the territory of pshek has long been.

That some pshek have dreams of speeches after the poll - well, they do. There are also opinions in China that the political map should be somewhat different in the direction of Siberia. And the Japanese. But you never know them. So what??? Well, run into China then, since you're such a whistleblower.

[Pavel57]

Poland's ears peek out.

[minipig79]

Quote: Pavel73

Where does the information come from, which is much more against? Just because they have a bigger crowd? So there is a reason for that. Who are FOR - those work. And they have no time to row. Those who are AGAINST - they quit their jobs and gather in a crowd. That is why protest crowds are always larger. And because of this, it seems that EVERYONE is against. Even one hundred thousand people in no way mean the majority of the population. This is just a skillful manipulation of the consciousness of those who see from the outside. "Look what a human sea! It's ALL people!" But this is absolutely not the case. This is an insignificant percentage of the people gathered in one place. To provide psychological and even physical pressure on the authorities.

I understand what you are talking about. I work myself too. And the guy across from me is also working. And in the evenings and on weekends we join (not every day). On Sunday, August 17, there were a bunch of photos showing how many people are protesting in Minsk (no one went to the capital in the regions, they are protesting in their cities). According to the official publication, for Tikhanovskaya 10 or 13%. What is already contradicted by the mass of people numbering 200-300 thousand (this is not my data). At that time my wife and children were standing at the house on Dzerzhinsky Avenue. It is stupid to drag children into the crowd. So add 2 + 2. I can't leave work and support the hard workers at MTZ or MAZ. Nobody laid out bundles of money in front of me, like here for your family to live on, you can take a vacation from work at your own expense. Therefore, I cannot quit. Who will feed the family. And so with my friends-comrades. All families also feed the children.
And the last thing. When 8 out of 10 people spit at the word "Lukashenka", what conclusion can be drawn from this ...

[minipig79]

Quote: Pavel57

Poland's ears peek out.

H'm. And whose male genitals are peeping out?) And whose nose?

[Romario_Argo]

I think there will soon be a referendum on the entry of Belarus into the Russian Federation
but the fact that flags of the color of the rainbow in the USA are waving - everyone is already used to

[Clueless]

Why don't you write that there are flags of Russia too? ;)

[tatarin1972]

Polish flags, there and the flags of the European Union lit up, who else will argue that this whole situation in Belarus is not arranged from outside ?! I really want to use obscenities, but I can't, I already have one warning, so that I will posture within the framework of what is permitted - "There were people, like people, and suddenly all at once became idiots, a paradox ..." Brother-2.

[keksvnochi]

Let him start with the entire German and Prussian territory that Stalin cut them after World War II, they will give Germany back. and then, freed from this heavy burden, they push their ideas into the world.