In the USA: Russia will once again regain its first place in the world in grain exports

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In the USA: Russia will once again regain its first place in the world in grain exports

The regions of central and southern Russia again show excellent results in grain harvest and yields. In the Voronezh, Rostov Regions, Krasnodar Territory, the grain yield in some areas exceeds 55 centners per hectare. If initially forecasters said that the volume of harvested grains in the Russian Federation in 2020 will fall by at least 40% compared to 2019, now the data indicate that there will definitely not be such a significant drop.

The United States of America paid attention to the high grain yields in Russia. Bloomberg, a large news agency, comes out with material stating that if crops in the EU countries are declining, then Russia is again ready to increase grain exports.



It should be noted here that earlier the authorities of our country made a decision to suspend grain exports due to negative forecasts. But now, when it is clear that the grain harvesting campaign is far from being a failure, Russia is believed to once again come out on top in grain supplies to the world market.

From Bloomberg, citing US analytical services:

Having barely overtaken Russia, the EU will now drop to third place. Drought and floods have taken their toll. Australia will increase sales, Canada is preparing to show record volumes of exports, and Russia will again regain first place.


In case of full-scale export, the main volumes of grain supplies from Russia will traditionally go to North Africa, the countries of the Middle East and partially to the Asian region. In Asia, as noted, the share of grain from Australia may increase due to the fact that problems in the fields of Europe will lead to a significant decrease in European grain in this macro-region.
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  1. -19
    19 August 2020 18: 43
    I'm not an expert on grain, but I read that our wheat is not of high quality. There are a lot of parameters for baking grain. Comrade Brezhnev, we made fodder from our grain, and fed the cattle. And we bought people in Canada. Now we eat ourselves, and feed who Not spoiled. Zhivodnovodcheskie complexes were destroyed, either we import meat or feed. In general, we again drive raw materials, import products.
    1. -7
      19 August 2020 18: 55
      I have not read but I condemn)
      Do you need to export buns?)
      1. +1
        19 August 2020 21: 55
        Alexey, - to sell flour. To acquire a "network of bakeries" in the acquirer's state - and bake their own flour.
    2. +10
      19 August 2020 18: 59
      Livestock complexes have been destroyed, or we are importing meat or feed

      What country do you live in, dear. Are the complexes destroyed? They breed every month.
      1. -16
        19 August 2020 19: 06
        What do you have "breeds" if the number of cattle fell from 58 million in 1991 to 18 million now. And in terms of grain, the production of grains 1-3 of the class has sharply decreased, and the production of fodder grain has increased, which the enemies of the communists feed the Russian people, and even with a bunch of chemicals, and they are also proud of it.
        1. +12
          19 August 2020 19: 21
          But for the poultry farms in my area, I can say for sure that there is an excess of them! Local chicken in all stores - in bulk! And never frozen, but chilled!
          1. -9
            19 August 2020 19: 25
            Ha, this is the essence of business - to produce not what the country and the people need, but only what is beneficial to businessmen. When doing business in Russia, the production of beef and pork has sharply decreased and the production of chicken has increased sharply, which businessmen shove everywhere together with beef and pork. And because chicken is a quick turnover of money, quick profit.
          2. +3
            19 August 2020 21: 04
            Quote: Turist1996
            Local chicken in all shops - in bulk!

            70% of hatching eggs are imported, mainly from the Czech Republic and France. The medicinal component of absolutely all compound feeds is import. So how local is this chicken?
        2. +1
          19 August 2020 19: 28
          In accordance with the classification of those years, wheat of the 4th class (according to GOST 9353-85) corresponded to the 4th and 5th classes of the modern classification (GOST R 52 554-2006). It follows from this that in 1986 the grain of the 4th and 5th classes was less than 40%. And in 2004, the total volume of grain of the 4th - 5th classes amounted to 72,2% of the gross harvest of wheat. Thus, until 1985, the quality of grain in our country was improving, reaching the best indicators in 1985-1986.

          Although in fairness it is necessary to quote a quote for 2019:

          In general, in Russia, the quality of wheat of the new harvest is also higher than last year, the regional authorities note. According to the Center for Evaluation of the Quality of Grain and its Processing Products, of the surveyed 12,1 million tons of Russian wheat, the share of the 2nd class accounts for 0,1%, the 3rd class - 31,6%, and the 4th class - 47,1% %. The share of 5th grade or feed wheat is 21,1%.

          If we take the Soviet standards for the production of flour and bread, then now in Russia, according to representatives of the milling industry, the deficit of class A group A milling wheat, necessary to obtain bread flour, is 3 million tons. The rye deficit is 12%, out of the required 50 million tons, produce 5. The production of high-quality wheat is a costly and labor-intensive process, therefore the country is almost entirely a territory of risky farming and has bought high-quality wheat in countries where it is possible to harvest 2,5-2 crops per year.
          1. -2
            19 August 2020 20: 30
            You can ask: - where did you see the words wheat, rye in the article? In the article, just cereals
            1. +1
              19 August 2020 22: 02
              Quote: Lumpen
              You can ask: - where did you see the words wheat, rye in the article? In the article, just cereals

              Wheat is mainly exported. Almost 80% of all cereals that year.
          2. -1
            20 August 2020 07: 46
            Do you know the main indicators of food production? Here without google right away ... look at the GOSTs and see
        3. +2
          19 August 2020 21: 01
          Quote: tatra
          up to 18 million now

          I will correct you Irina, up to 8 million heads. hi
        4. +3
          19 August 2020 21: 47
          A strange situation in 91, judging by the statistics, there was just a lot with actual food shortages. Now, with the quantities several times less, meat is freely available.
          1. 0
            20 August 2020 07: 20
            Quote: Servisinzhener
            meat is freely available.

            Question price? The price does not come close to beef, pork is practically all on injections (steroids), and has nothing to do with healthy eating, not only in terms of fat content. Antibiotic-raised poultry also has dubious health benefits.
            1. +1
              20 August 2020 07: 48
              Ingvar, where have you seen meat and poultry produced on an industrial scale without injections? You will bother to feed the pig at home without feed so that it grows well
              1. +1
                20 August 2020 10: 37
                Quote: Andrey VOV
                you at home will get bored to feed the pig without feed so that it grows well

                All breeders of pigs are raised for themselves without injections. I breed Indo-girls from my mother. Without any drugs. I care what my children eat. hi
                1. +2
                  20 August 2020 11: 00
                  you still need to give or vaccinate from sores ... otherwise they die in a second, if God forbid what kind of infection, for example, rabbits from plague, a hundred heads a day and that's it
                  1. +1
                    20 August 2020 11: 06
                    Rabbits, yes, there are no such problems with Indo-dogs. They breed ducklings themselves, an incubator is not needed. In the year before last, five died, out of 50. And so the case is no more than 1-2 pcs. True, on normal fattening it is almost twice as long. Instead of 3-4 months 6-7. The costs of ecological food. request
            2. +2
              20 August 2020 09: 07
              You can see the prices in stores If you are so scrupulous about naturalness, then go hunting for wild boars and pheasants. Because modern agriculture is special breeds and varieties and special feed.
              Will we remember the Soviet margarine and blue birds?
    3. +7
      19 August 2020 19: 09
      Quote: fa2998
      I am not a grain expert, but I read that our wheat is not of high quality.

      Wheat grown in the South of Russia, in Krasnodar Territory, Stavropol Territory in terms of protein content of 13-15% corresponds to grown HRW varieties in the USA and Canada. Read normal articles.
      1. +3
        19 August 2020 22: 22
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Wheat grown in the South of Russia, in Krasnodar Territory, Stavropol Territory in terms of protein content of 13-15% corresponds to grown HRW varieties in the USA and Canada.

        What about gluten?
        1. 0
          20 August 2020 07: 49
          With protein from 13 to 15 glue on average from 23 to 25
    4. +4
      19 August 2020 19: 33
      Quote: fa2998
      I'm not a grain specialist

      Why do you leave comments? Like: "I have not read this work!"
      1. -1
        20 August 2020 12: 12
        Quote: Tol100v
        Why do you leave comments? Like: "I have not read this work!"

        But I heard one aunt say.
    5. +1
      19 August 2020 19: 48
      In vain minus the author. We produce an insignificant amount of wheat of the highest grade. It's just that it is more profitable for oligarchs to produce bread from cheaper grain. I myself was very indignant when I first heard it. Unfortunately, this is the case.
      1. +9
        19 August 2020 20: 04
        Quote: RUnnm
        In vain minus the author. We produce an insignificant amount of wheat of the highest grade. It's just that it is more profitable for oligarchs to produce bread from cheaper grain. I myself was very indignant when I first heard it. Unfortunately, this is the case.

        Grains 1 and 2 were never used to make bread, this is sowing material. Under the USSR, bread was made from grains 3 and 4, and now it is all exported. But thanks to the chemical "expander, opacifiers, agitators" bread is now baked from 5 and Grade 6 grain.
        So business and nothing personal, we live in capitalism !!!
        1. +4
          19 August 2020 20: 06
          Thanks. This is, in fact, what I wanted to write. I just didn't understand why they were so wildly "minus".
        2. 0
          20 August 2020 07: 50
          There is no 6 grade, but 5 is more profitable to sell for export, rather than make flour
          1. +1
            20 August 2020 09: 35
            Quote: Andrey VOV
            There is no 6 grade, but 5 is more profitable to sell for export, rather than make flour

            According to the latest DSTU 3768 is. I understand this is technical material
      2. 0
        20 August 2020 12: 17
        Quote: RUnnm
        In vain minus the author. We produce an insignificant amount of wheat of the highest grade.

        So you never deal with grain, flour and bread.
    6. +4
      19 August 2020 19: 53
      there was such a topic a year or two ago ... in general, do not read the opinion of sofa experts and that's it)
    7. +6
      19 August 2020 19: 54
      oh yes, about "cattle breeding complexes have been destroyed" .. um ... I don’t know in which region you live, But in the Oryol region it’s impossible to rest from pig farms
      1. +1
        19 August 2020 20: 12
        Quote: Boris Chernikov
        oh yes, about the "cattle-breeding complexes destroyed" .. um ... I don't know in which region you live, but in our Oryol region it is impossible to take a break from pig farms

        Take a break (or rather take a break) or take a break?
        Something drew me to humor after your post:
        1. +2
          19 August 2020 20: 15
          laughing and so and so .. when there is no wind, then you swear at the number of pig complexes .. but when the wind ripples on the "gumnosbornik" .. In general, it stinks very much) .. Although here the other day trout began to be raised in the region, and in the spring a huge greenhouse was built ..
    8. +4
      19 August 2020 20: 16
      Not certainly in that way. Under the USSR, they really bought grain and mixed it with domestic grain, thus improving the quality of flour. Now we manage with our own, and it is actually produced much more, but the quality, alas, is the same.
      1. 0
        20 August 2020 07: 51
        Are you directly involved in growing wheat?
        1. 0
          21 August 2020 09: 29
          Not now.
          Here's another thing to clarify. The yield has recently increased and very much. The old combine operators recalled that during their youth, the harvest of about 28 centners per hectare or more was a serious claim for a government award to everyone involved. (not only to the bosses, there were a lot of ordinary collective farmers with orders), but now less than 50 seems to be like the letter "x" (do not think that it is good :)). The reasons are in seeds, fertilizers, and other technologies. Combines, again, are not the same now, and indeed the technique.
          All this, of course, is good, although not entirely our merit (well, or not only ours). But there is no particular point in growing high-quality grain either. That is, it is more expensive, but not at times. New technologies have also appeared in bakery. They stuffed baking powder into the dough and here it is, a tall and soft loaf. True, the next day this bread is impossible to eat, but ...
      2. +1
        20 August 2020 08: 26
        Quote: Senior Sailor
        Not certainly in that way. Under the USSR, they really bought grain and mixed it with domestic grain, thus improving the quality of flour. Now we manage with our own, and it is actually produced much more, but the quality, alas, is the same.

        Actually, in the USSR, they did not deal with a mass hodgepodge, and durum wheat was purchased for specific products, and not for mass consumption. This is not the current time for you when they buy palm oil of not the highest quality and interfere with it everywhere ...
    9. +3
      19 August 2020 20: 18
      Quote: fa2998
      Animal husbandry complexes have been destroyed, or we are importing meat or feed.

      Enough to whine and tryndet according to the old training manuals. Remember also "Bush's legs". Every day I buy meat, milk, chickens, cereals, vegetables ... made in Russia. Zabugornoye still needs to be searched.
      1. -1
        20 August 2020 08: 36
        Quote: Piramidon
        Every day I buy meat, milk, chickens, cereals, vegetables ... made in Russia. Zabugornoye still needs to be searched.

        I also buy products from a domestic manufacturer. All the milk is "White Castle" ... But there is "milk" from the domestic producer of the so-called "economy quality". Agree that milk at a price of 25 rubles / liter does not exist in nature, as well as cheese at 190-230 rubles per kg.
        Right now on TV they are broadcasting about the sea of ​​bees in the Altai Territory due to the processing of fields in the Agrocomplex with incomprehensible rubbish. This is a more significant tragedy that will deprive us of Altai honey this season. Losses are multimillion.
        1. -3
          20 August 2020 10: 55
          Quote: ROSS 42
          But there is "milk" from the domestic producer of the so-called "economy quality"

          Well, this does not mean that our entire agricultural sector is destroyed and there are no Russian products for sale, as "fa2998" asserts here. There are normal domestic products. Buy them, not cheap "budget" soy and toilet paper options. hi
    10. +6
      19 August 2020 20: 21
      Quote: fa2998
      In general, we are again driving raw materials, importing products

      Have you heard of such a miracle as selection?
      We do not have the best climate for growing high-class wheat of the previous varieties, there are few places where it is economically profitable to grow it.
      Science does not stand still, high-class cereal varieties have appeared that are profitable to grow in a larger area than before.
      The problem is not only in the climate, it should be PROFITABLE for agricultural producers.
      In percentage terms and in terms of the price-quality parameter, it is getting much better than it was before ...
      Yes, you can clarify in the reference book that what is sold to North Africa, for example, differs from what Europeans buy not by class and quality at all, but by the requirements of technology, the priority of manufactured products !!!
      Well, pasta (pasta) is not popular in Africa, unlike Italy, they do not need durum wheat!
      Take an interest for ... interesting, in short!
      1. +2
        20 August 2020 14: 13
        Quote: rocket757
        The problem is not only in the climate, it should be PROFITABLE for agricultural producers.
        In percentage terms and in terms of the price-quality parameter, it is getting much better than it was before ...

        It is clear that the nuances of agricultural work are thoroughly unknown to me, but my uncle is a farmer who was engaged in the cultivation of wheat. I went to Novosibirsk for seeds. And it is true that the yield has become high, although the seed is expensive. But Russia has a rather favorable climate not only for growing grain, but even in terms of pests and natural enemies of crops, nature does not offend us (elephants and other mammals in the form of herds of zebras or buffaloes are not observed).
        The biggest problem was the cleaning. It was during the harvesting period, while the grain in the ear (did not crumble) we have it raining, then some kind of crap. You understand perfectly well that the grain will not wait for August 32nd. Optimally short harvesting times (productivity of combines) and their ability to remove lodged and damp bread is the best option.
        In RI, cleaning was provided by a huge number of rural residents (seasonal and day work). This is almost impossible today. Reliable, high-performance and cross-country vehicles - 50% success. Transportation of grain and its processing at the elevator (again, high performance) - the second half.
        BUT!!! Nothing is impossible for Russia. And the sown area is enough for us to provide grain not only to Africa, but also to produce feed for our own cattle of dairy and meat breeds. Although, it is clear that beef is cheaper in Argentina - the herds are grazed all year round.
        1. +2
          20 August 2020 14: 54
          I just wanted to point out to all sorts of different things that our agriculture is developing in all directions in accordance with the achievements of the world and our science!
          It is foolish to talk about the same thing for many years, it is silly not to ask about the real state of affairs on the topic where you want to say something, prove something!
          I'm not a rural worker either, but the topic is important, interesting, I found time to read / listen to specialists.
          1. +2
            20 August 2020 14: 59
            Quote: rocket757
            that our agriculture is developing in all directions in accordance with the achievements of world and our science!

            This is true, just as it is true that the issues of selling agricultural products by farmers and small businesses have not been resolved. Often managers from Agrocomplexes rule. I have already indicated how in Altai there was a mass death of bees (the uncle still has a small apiary) due to the treatment of herbs with some kind of toxic chemical.
            These people do not understand that a person will die after the disappearance of bees, which pollinate plants.
            1. +2
              20 August 2020 15: 12
              Many troubles are happening on our land. Many do not understand that all this goes into one piggy bank and sooner or later will cover us all!
              1. +2
                20 August 2020 15: 28
                Quote: rocket757
                Many do not understand that all this goes into one piggy bank and sooner or later will cover us all!

                I suppose that sometime, where the ringing of gold does not play any role, someday they will get tired of cleaning the shit that HUMANITY leaves, and with tears in their eyes and the words: "Nothing works", they will make the earth free of man, like here :
                1. +1
                  20 August 2020 16: 49
                  Apocalypse is not the most impossible scenario for the future, now.
    11. -2
      19 August 2020 20: 25
      Quote: fa2998
      I am not a grain expert, but I read that our wheat is not of high quality.

      ========
      Well, if not a specialist, then why give "extended comments"??? request
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    13. 0
      19 August 2020 22: 35
      Quote: fa2998
      The animal breeding complexes have been destroyed, or we are importing meat or feed. In general, we are again driving raw materials, importing products.

      Well, not everything is so bad. Everything is relative
      Over the past six years, Russia has cut food imports by a third, from $ 43,3 billion in 2013 to $ 30 billion in 2019. So, for pork, it decreased almost tenfold - if in 2013 the country imported this meat for 2,6 billion dollars, then in 2019 it was already only 270 million dollars. For cattle meat, imports fell 2,5 times, from $ 3,2 billion to $ 1,3 billion, poultry - almost twice, from $ 911 million to $ 410 million, vegetables and dairy products - by a third. Imports of tomatoes decreased by 42,1% from 1,1 billion to 639 million dollars, apples and pears - by 50,8% from 1,2 billion to 586 million dollars.
      https://mcx.gov.ru/press-service/news/minselkhoz-rossii-podvel-itogi-shesti-let-deystviya-prodembargo/
    14. 0
      22 August 2020 16: 43
      We have grown wheat in clean, natural fields, without any GMOs. And for the Americans, Russia is a competition, so they send out all sorts of rumors about our wheat.
  2. -13
    19 August 2020 18: 44
    Grain is also a raw material, it is necessary to export products from cereals and get the maximum added value
    1. +6
      19 August 2020 18: 49
      Buns to France!)
    2. +3
      19 August 2020 18: 54
      Buns, what should I export?)
    3. +5
      19 August 2020 18: 59
      To lay a flour pipeline to Europe?
    4. +4
      19 August 2020 19: 02
      but preferably flour and pasta and not in bags, but 0,5 kg each in a beautiful package, so that the price of the package is more than the pasta itself =)
      1. +1
        19 August 2020 19: 15
        Here, in contrast to the previous speakers, a sane idea! Before minus, find out what cereal products are in the modern world. laughing
    5. +2
      19 August 2020 19: 23
      Yes Yes! French roll! Of course, with a characteristic crunch.
      1. +3
        19 August 2020 19: 25
        It will not work according to the shelf life, the crunch will disappearlaughing
    6. +3
      19 August 2020 20: 18
      not a ride .. countries are interested in exactly what the grain itself, here the banal packing in bags causes a lot of problems .. the maximum that in theory you can go is for the supply of flour .. but there are questions about storage
      1. +1
        19 August 2020 20: 49
        The words wheat, rye, barley are never mentioned in the article, which means it is necessary to produce various muesli, cereals, etc. laughing
        But seriously, I sympathize, honestly drinks
        1. +1
          19 August 2020 21: 01
          the very idea of ​​promoting finished products is correct, but it requires huge investments
          1. -1
            19 August 2020 21: 17
            So the exhaust at times and investments will be recouped faster than trading in simple grain of the same wheat
            1. +1
              19 August 2020 21: 18
              not the fact that it is fast ... then, in theory, a systematic approach is needed, if not your own stores
              1. -1
                19 August 2020 21: 23
                I agree, but it's still embarrassing that we are all in the zone of risky farming and in general everything risky, you can fly in with loans
    7. 0
      19 August 2020 23: 15
      laughing laughing laughing My neighbor will now rush from his bakery to sell rye bread over a hillock 2000 km from the border. My friend, you are too far from the farm, I think so, eh ?! laughing
      1. +1
        20 August 2020 09: 42
        Not by bread alone, find in the tyrnet what products are made from cereals, or read the post above.
        It's the 21st century, my friend!
  3. -7
    19 August 2020 18: 50
    Unlike the enemies of the communists who seized Russia in order to siphon money, natural resources, raw materials from it and the Russian people, the Soviet communists were patriots and statesmen, and believed that for the normal provision of the people and livestock, one needed a ton of grain per year per person, and produced in 700-800 kg. The missing grain was imported. According to this method, the Russian enemies of the communists, for the population of Russia of 146 million people, would not have to export grain, but import it. But they operate according to the method of the bourgeoisie of the Russian Empire, who exported a lot of grain from chronically starving Russia.
    1. +1
      19 August 2020 19: 07
      "Communists" bought grain in Canada and fucked up the Union.
      Which one will you be from?
      ps Your avatar is a deception, you are undoubtedly a traitor.
      1. -6
        19 August 2020 19: 12
        Here is the essence of the enemies of the communists are always the same cowardly. ALWAYS, when they write about THEM, they compare THEM with the communists and their supporters, none of them is able to defend them, all equally rush to malice against the communists and their supporters. Therefore, their ideology after their seizure of the republics of the USSR is not FOR themselves, but AGAINST, both against the communists and their supporters, and against each other.
        1. 0
          19 August 2020 19: 18
          You are the vicious enemy of Russia.
          1. -6
            19 August 2020 19: 21
            WHAT Russia? Such, the responsibility for the capture of which you, the enemies of the communists, categorically refused to take, because you captured it not for the good of the country and the people, but for personal gain.
            1. 0
              19 August 2020 19: 23
              Your personal gain is to humiliate your homeland here.
              Under the flag that you despise Judas.
              1. -6
                19 August 2020 19: 29
                Aren't you ashamed to lie and slander so? Or from those who "are better now than in the USSR," because, as you yourself admit, you HAVE GOT a lot of things at the expense of other people's labor, at the expense of Russia and its people, it is useless to wait for even a hint of conscience? I don't answer the boorish srach anymore.
                1. -2
                  19 August 2020 19: 30
                  How much nonsense you wrote, think for yourself. Traitor!
                  1. +2
                    19 August 2020 20: 26
                    This is a bot, always / has been writing the same thing for a long time.
                2. -3
                  19 August 2020 19: 41
                  Quote: tatra
                  because, as you yourself admit, you GOT a lot of things at the expense of other people's labor, at the expense of Russia and its people

                  What are you talking about?
                3. 0
                  19 August 2020 21: 10
                  Well, then, let's start with the fact that the communists got along well at the expense of the expelled intelligentsia from Ingushetia, or say no? destroyed way of life, traditions, lost gold reserves and territories somewhere in revolutions and for what, to return again to the bourgeoisie
        2. 0
          19 August 2020 20: 04
          What year of birth are you, may I ask?
          1. 0
            19 August 2020 20: 23
            What year of birth are you, may I ask?

            lol He had already fallen asleep ... at the keyboard ...
      2. +1
        19 August 2020 19: 30
        Are you talking nonsense? Better to ask what kind of grain the Union bought from the bourgeoisie, why, and where did it go. Very informative for immature liberal brains ..
        1. +2
          19 August 2020 20: 30
          Quote: paul3390
          Do not carry nonsense?

          If the topic about BREAD is more fully disclosed, it will be very informative!
          It is clear that the site is, as it were, on a military topic, but there is nothing they write about.
          Moreover, the country's food security is one of the strategically important topics!
          1. +1
            19 August 2020 21: 13
            In general, to warm up and understand the origins of the issue, it would be useful to read at least Prudnikova, The Battle for Bread ..
            1. 0
              20 August 2020 06: 02
              And Soloukhinskoe "For mushrooms", also good reading matter.
      3. -2
        19 August 2020 20: 14
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        ps Your avatar is a deception, you are undoubtedly a traitor.

        And he lives somewhere in Holland, from there it is always better to see. wink
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    2. -1
      19 August 2020 19: 26
      Tell me, where do you get such a thick "grass"?
      1. 0
        19 August 2020 19: 49
        She grows herself. She does not grow anything except grass. But she loves teaching others how to farm.
    3. +6
      19 August 2020 19: 30
      "The missing grain was imported" 1986 The USSR imported 46 million tons of grain - this is not a disadvantage, this is already a food disaster and it does not matter what and to whom it went.
    4. -3
      19 August 2020 19: 38
      The Union bought strong varieties of wheat, 1st and 2nd class. For it is grown in our country a little, and the communists did not consider it possible to feed their people with bread from fodder grain as it is now .. With the addition of all kinds of chemicals such as baking powder and taste improvers. And our fodder grain was used to feed livestock in order to have our own meat, and not to buy the devil behind the cordon for currency. Hence the constant purchases of grain by the Soviet government. Plus - we had a bunch of republics around our necks that also wanted to eat abundantly and with high quality .. Make the Russian Federation now feed the Baltics, Central Asia and the Transcaucasus - and we will have no grain left .. Even fodder.
      1. +1
        19 August 2020 20: 36
        This topic must be described separately so that it is discussed, and not your personal post.
        Surely more people with normal knowledge will join the discussion, and not the clients of VIKI, where there is more nonsense than in life in general.
        There will be a topic, I will also connect, but arguing with those who do not want to study anything thoroughly, but blurt out all sorts of nonsense, is useless soldier
      2. +1
        20 August 2020 15: 38
        And one hell of a meat purchased over a million tons.
    5. -4
      19 August 2020 19: 58
      the Soviet communists destroyed the USSR and eventually ruined the CX ... so you are by)
      1. +1
        19 August 2020 21: 58
        Many people miss this moment. That it was not the anti-Soviets and other "victims of punitive psychiatry," but the Communists themselves who stole into the pockets of the USSR. Party and Komsomol activists without discrediting their connections.
    6. -1
      19 August 2020 20: 18
      Quote: tatra
      ... According to this method, the Russian enemies of the communists, for the population of Russia of 146 million people, would not have to export grain, but import it. But they operate according to the method of the bourgeoisie of the Russian Empire, who exported a lot of grain from chronically starving Russia.

      Masterpiece nonsense! However, as always.
      1. +1
        20 August 2020 15: 41
        Do not pay attention to the shiz from the madhouse, they have it in another dimension.
  4. +1
    19 August 2020 18: 52
    At least one good news.
  5. +2
    19 August 2020 19: 05
    Some write the harvest is an average drought in the south, others cannot be understood excellent!
    1. +6
      19 August 2020 19: 16
      I live in the Krasnodar Territory. The harvest is excellent in spite of everything!
      1. 0
        19 August 2020 21: 05
        Cons - what for ??? The one who sculpts them at least our edge on the map can show? Or wants to argue that the Krasnodar Territory has a good harvest? Hey, come out of the darkness !!! am
    2. +1
      19 August 2020 19: 58
      it all depends on when to read
    3. +2
      19 August 2020 20: 38
      The country is big! Somewhere thick, somewhere empty!
      There are many areas of risky agriculture.
  6. +12
    19 August 2020 19: 23
    Quote: fa2998
    I'm not an expert on grain, but I read that our wheat is not of high quality. There are a lot of parameters for baking grain. Comrade Brezhnev, we made fodder from our grain, and fed the cattle. And we bought people in Canada. Now we eat ourselves, and feed who Not spoiled. Zhivodnovodcheskie complexes were destroyed, either we import meat or feed. In general, we again drive raw materials, import products.

    In the Russian Federation, it is adopted to determine the quality of wheat by dividing it into classes (the basis is taking into account the baking quality, which is not in other countries; neither in the USA, nor in Canada, nor in the EU, nor in Argentina. They have a different assessment system). In the Russian Federation, wheat is divided into six classes: five classes from 1 to 5, depending on the indicators (vitreousness, amount of gluten, amount of protein, contamination, moisture, etc.) - food and only the sixth grade - fodder (for the manufacture of compound feed, etc.). Judging by the article, 86% of the total crop was produced for food grade 3,4 wheat. A very good result.

    And for your information, :: wheat for export of food quality and suitable for laying in the state reserve is (one, for example, from the parameters - protein) in the EU and the USA - 10,5% (the lowest permissible limit), while in the Russian Federation this indicator (amount of protein) for the 4th grade ("fodder", as you say) is 11 - 12,5%, i.e. higher than in your favorite Canada Then, judging by your own logic, the British, Americans and other Swedes eat bread from "feed" grain of even worse quality than in Russia. Rave? - However, nonsense.

    So Russians don't eat bread made from "fodder" grain.

    It's not good to cheat
    1. +2
      19 August 2020 19: 39
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      It's not good to cheat

      Well and clearly explained to the first move at the elevator!
    2. 0
      19 August 2020 23: 27
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      So Russians don't eat bread made from "fodder" grain.

      It's not good to cheat

      Can you tense up and tell me about the percentage of gluten?
  7. 0
    19 August 2020 19: 34
    what Hmm ...
    It would be necessary to ask scholars about the depletion of soils with such and such "records".
    1. +2
      19 August 2020 19: 53
      It would be necessary to ask scholars about the depletion of soils with such and such "records".

      The usual crop rotation of crops and nothing there will be depleted, especially with wheat.
      1. 0
        19 August 2020 21: 12
        Quote: loki565
        and nothing there will be depleted, much less wheat.

        Everything will be depleted if only wheat is planted year after year. Therefore, crops alternate, this year wheat, the next sunflower, the next corn. And once every few years they don't sow at all, they give the land a rest. hi
        1. +1
          19 August 2020 21: 28
          Everything will be depleted if only wheat is planted year after year. Therefore, crops alternate, this year wheat, the next sunflower, the next corn. And once every few years they don't sow at all, they give the land a rest.

          This is called a crop rotation, usually left under fallow after the sunflower.
          1. 0
            20 August 2020 01: 11
            Crop rotation, you say ...
            Crop rotation ...
            And you can also fertilize handfuls wider - one does not interfere with the other.
            Soil salinity from excess fertilizers, you know ...
            And what will grow there afterwards is an interesting question.
            I'm talking about whether anyone looks after the correctness of land use; and who is watching. wink
  8. -4
    19 August 2020 19: 36
    After such a harvest, bakery products will become cheaper ...
    1. +4
      19 August 2020 20: 19
      Quote: parusnik
      After such a harvest, bakery products will become cheaper ...

      Of course they will become cheaper .. in Europe, the USA .. and we have the last time under Stalin that something became cheaper ..
      1. +4
        19 August 2020 21: 33
        But I believe that it will become cheaper in Russia laughing They care about the people so much ...
    2. 0
      19 August 2020 23: 29
      Quote: parusnik
      After such a harvest, bakery products will become cheaper ...

      laughing Rather, a bunch of farmers will go bankrupt ... crying
  9. +3
    19 August 2020 20: 05
    The climate for us, if earlier everything burned out in the south in a year, now, with an increase in humidity, a record gross harvest in a year, - the negative component in the center and on serers swamps, - the village is dying,
    As a specialist geologist, I say this - I see everything.
  10. +4
    19 August 2020 20: 07
    Quote: tatra
    Ha, this is the essence of business - to produce not what the country and the people need, but only what is beneficial to businessmen. When doing business in Russia, the production of beef and pork has sharply decreased and the production of chicken has increased sharply, which businessmen shove everywhere together with beef and pork. And because chicken is a quick turnover of money, quick profit.

    Well, why not argued blah blah ...
    In 2019, Russian pork exports increased by almost 80% over the previous year. Experts attribute this to several factors. First, production volumes have increased. The annual growth is about 5,5%. So, since 2012, it has grown by more than one and a half times. Another reason is the emergence of new markets for sale. These include Hong Kong and Vietnam, with which foreign trade is only being established. After agreeing on all the organizational issues, the share of exports to these countries should increase significantly (so far it is about 3%). However, in the future, other East Asian countries will be of the greatest interest for exports: China, Japan and South Korea, since there is a high deficit of this product and high prices for it. Also, Russia plans to establish pork supplies to African countries.
    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/131287/

    For the first time, pork exports may reach 200 thousand tons.
    If eight years ago Russia was one of the main importers of pork, then last year the country became a net exporter.
    https://meatinfo.ru/news/eksport-svinini-vpervie-moget-dostignut-200-tisyach-tonn-411437
  11. 0
    19 August 2020 20: 07
    Now the "all-propals" will start a chorus about the fact that the seed material is foreign and again everything is gone! laughing
    1. 0
      19 August 2020 21: 13
      Quote: Tank Hard
      that the seed material is foreign

      Is that not so? wink
      1. -2
        19 August 2020 21: 52
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Is that not so?

        Everything is lost?! laughing laughing laughing
      2. +2
        20 August 2020 07: 57
        The sowing material of wheat is 90 percent ours, in my area everything is 100 percent, all our rapeseed, all our potatoes, like beets
        1. -1
          20 August 2020 08: 55
          I agree on wheat, but absolutely not on potatoes. A lot is bought abroad. I don't know about rapeseed and beets, I won't argue. Corn is over 70% import.
          1. +2
            20 August 2020 08: 57
            I will not say for the whole country, our farm uses our variety, I will not say the name now, but definitely ours ... the year before last there was some sort from the Baltic states, but it went badly
            1. -1
              20 August 2020 10: 34
              Karaulov's roofing felts, Mamontov's roofing felts have a video describing the structure of the origin of seed material in the Union of Artists of the Russian Federation. With numbers. The conclusions are sad, more than half of all agricultural seeds in the Russian Federation are imported. request
              1. +2
                20 August 2020 11: 02
                Guardians for me have long ceased to be the truth, like Mamontov
                1. -1
                  20 August 2020 11: 07
                  Even with numbers and links to official documents? belay Nobody accused them of lying, as far as I remember.
                  1. +2
                    20 August 2020 13: 24
                    Well, you are an adult, you perfectly understand how you can "play" with numbers ... Mamontov's investigation about a palm tree, I agree with him ... I know perfectly well how and where and who is most lucky
                    1. -1
                      20 August 2020 13: 39
                      As for playing with numbers - for such serious journalists, “games” with numbers can cost their reputation. But for the authorities it will be a gift in the form of a rise in authority. But no one poked them with a pug in a lie. request
                      I looked the same about Mamontov's palm - a shame to Rospotrebnadzor. hi
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  13. +4
    19 August 2020 20: 27
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Observer2014
    That is what infuriates him, but Obama will not be dragged to a village or a city

    It's just amazing, the people are happy that we have turned from a great industrial power with advanced science into an agrarian one .. just back to the past in the days of the tsars .. And about Obama, it's generally enchanting .. slogans outdated in time .. methodological material is outdated before the eyes chtol wassat

    You can't please. Then yell that there is nothing to eat in Russia. Now that agriculture has risen, squeal that it is useless to be an agrarian power. Meanwhile, one does not interfere with the other. There is nothing wrong with agriculture on the rise, because the rise in one sector rules the development of another, for example, the production of agricultural machinery, at least. Another thing is that you just like a sickle in one place.
    In general, Yaroslavna's cry is not set off
    1. -3
      19 August 2020 22: 12
      Quote: Tagan
      Meanwhile, one does not interfere with the other.

      Of course ... only in our case, one without the other ..
      Now that agriculture has risen

      It has risen in 2016 .. but something is not visible in the result .. Has our bread become better quality? Or maybe cheaper?
      There is nothing wrong with agriculture on the rise, because the rise in one sector rules the development of another, for example, the production of agricultural machinery, at least

      Something is not noticeable .. follow the link .. look carefully. Although, yes, I would like to ..
      https://www.agroxxi.ru/selhoztehnika/stati/analiz-rynka-selskohozjaistvennoi-tehniki-v-uslovijah-krizisa-2020-goda-vse-zavisit-ot-urovnja-gosudarstvennoi-podderzhki.html

      Another thing is that you just like a sickle in one place.

      This is so .. it really annoys me that from year to year it is getting worse in all areas .. but there are those who unproven and unfounded asserts the opposite .. From what you say sugar ... will not become sweeter ..
  14. +2
    19 August 2020 20: 31
    Quote: Tank Hard
    Now the "all-propals" will start a chorus about the fact that the seed material is foreign and again everything is gone! laughing

    Yes, Svarog is already covered in snot and grief.
    1. +3
      19 August 2020 20: 43
      Quote: Tagan
      Yes, Svarog is already covered in snot and grief.

      Yeah, there are a lot of them, there is nothing bad, there is enough food, the food is bad, we sell grain badly, we don't sell grain bad. And Putin is to blame for everything, and whoever does not agree with their "wonderful" opinion is a "confused" and an enemy. And such scale at all times of history was in abundance. hi
  15. +3
    19 August 2020 20: 37
    That is why in the days of the USSR, which poured a lot of money into agricultural funds, this was not the case, and after the collapse of the country they could not feed themselves at all, many remember humanitarian kits. How did they achieve such a result that new technologies helped or workers' attitude to work changed ? Until recently, they were afraid to lose their independence, and now ...
  16. +2
    19 August 2020 20: 52
    Quote: Tank Hard
    Quote: Tagan
    Yes, Svarog is already covered in snot and grief.

    Yeah, there are a lot of them, there is nothing bad, there is enough food, the food is bad, we sell grain badly, we don't sell grain bad. And Putin is to blame for everything, and whoever does not agree with their "wonderful" opinion is a "confused" and an enemy. And such scale at all times of history was in abundance. hi

    There is a kind of people (...) who find it hard to live without shitting at least once a day.
  17. +1
    19 August 2020 20: 53
    Quote: Deniska999
    No, people will always want to eat. And we have a lot of land idle, you can sow and sow.

    That's interestingno, what are the disadvantages for you?
  18. +1
    19 August 2020 20: 56
    Quote: Deniska999
    I wonder what everyone is minus. The development of agricultural production stimulates the development of a heap of industries from chemical production to mechanical engineering.

    You don’t understand, all agricultural production is produced in games like a farm, on "stubs" the more iPhone, the more bread laughing
  19. +1
    19 August 2020 22: 25
    In principle, the topic is good. For the earth and the bowels are exactly what modern Russia is. What can you show to others ...
    Ps. It is necessary to keep up with technology and other subtle things, of course.
  20. 0
    19 August 2020 22: 53
    Oh, these races ...
  21. -3
    19 August 2020 23: 00
    Who knows: why would we suddenly begin to collect such crops that we could not collect in the USSR, despite the nationwide "battle for the harvest"? Do not GMO seeds give such a yield?
    1. +1
      20 August 2020 15: 45
      GMOs are prohibited in Russia - only selection.
  22. 0
    19 August 2020 23: 06
    Gas station, elevator, gas bottle, etc., etc. Robyaty, what fool called us a regional power?
  23. +2
    19 August 2020 23: 14
    The harvest is really good. In my district (Tula region), winter wheat gave 44 c / ha, barley 41 c / ha (there is no data on spring wheat). And if there is grain, meat will grow too ...
  24. -3
    19 August 2020 23: 36
    High yield, falling prices. They begin to hold the grain. Then, if not stupid, build a chain ...
    1. +2
      20 August 2020 07: 59
      Don't be stupid to others here, the farmer has long learned to work at a variety of prices, so there's nothing to drive here
  25. +1
    20 August 2020 02: 42
    There is grain and it is good. There will be no hunger inside the country, and there will always be something to sell abroad.
  26. +4
    20 August 2020 06: 32
    I read and admire the level of reasoning. So it became shameful to be a leading agricultural country. Canada, the USA, Australia are not worried about this, and we suddenly have to burst into tears. We don't disgrace ourselves, we don't buy wheat, is that bad?

    From the experience of an ordinary consumer. Now they love to nod at Soviet bread. Like, it was real. It is rather nostalgia for those times. Because I remember different things - I was with lumps, and with holes inside, and sour. Whether this technology is bad, the flour is not the same, I, as a simple buyer, cannot make out. Whether it is necessary?

    But I remember how, out of mischief, we made our way to the elevator in childhood, jumped there over heaps of grain. Now it is not possible to think about this. And the battle for the harvest ... Although it is an easy job now.

    I had a chance to travel abroad. We have the best bread. And how many species are now. Used to be black and white. Now there are 10 different black loaves, with fillers such as bran, slicing, toast, baguettes, ciabatta. And what about pasta and noodles? Gray pipes or current ones. Why compare.
    1. +1
      21 August 2020 10: 43
      The nature of the enemy manifests itself - they spit in Russia, they say, an agrarian country. When they are told that the US is rightfully proud of its agriculture, they ignore it.
      The quality of the bread depends on the local bakery and the regional government purchasing flour. We (Murmansk region) have delicious bread wink
  27. +2
    20 August 2020 06: 36
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Tagan
    Meanwhile, one does not interfere with the other.

    Of course ... only in our case, one without the other ..
    Now that agriculture has risen

    It has risen in 2016 .. but something is not visible in the result .. Has our bread become better quality? Or maybe cheaper?
    There is nothing wrong with agriculture on the rise, because the rise in one sector rules the development of another, for example, the production of agricultural machinery, at least

    Something is not noticeable .. follow the link .. look carefully. Although, yes, I would like to ..
    https://www.agroxxi.ru/selhoztehnika/stati/analiz-rynka-selskohozjaistvennoi-tehniki-v-uslovijah-krizisa-2020-goda-vse-zavisit-ot-urovnja-gosudarstvennoi-podderzhki.html

    Are you lying again?
    Not seeing the result? Well, why are you so? We take the same Rostselmash. Net profit growth in 2019 compared to 2018 by more than 7 times. And why suddenly, don't you know?
    What's wrong with our bread? Maybe you, too, like some here, with a blue eye will tell you that you are being fed with fodder grain? Yes, bread did not fall in price, but it did not rise in price either. Not higher than official inflation. For several years, we have three or four rubles (26 rubles for a loaf). No, well, if you look carefully, you can find it for 50r.
  28. +2
    20 August 2020 07: 47
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    Quote: LKW Fahrer
    Where did you hear such game?) By the way, we are not far behind in wheat. One job in agriculture gives 9 people in related industries

    Well, this is certainly not bad, but this was before the adoption of the law on the sale of land. If foreign corporations enter these lands, then rapeseed will become the main crop cultivated in your fields. Taking into account technologies, they will not need thousands of your peasants, but dozens will be enough, respectively, the same thousands will disappear in related industries
    jobs.
    I will tell you a secret - already now the main crops in Ukraine are rapeseed, soybeans, corn, sunflower and wheat, which have been sown in one place for years ... And yes, tens and not thousands have been working for a long time, since collective farms have long been gone, here you are flew past. And let the corporations come in, the land will remain in place, they will compete with the locals, and the industry has already died.

    Quote: LKW Fahrer
    We need to develop what is, and then raise the rest, China started from scratch and is now the leading economy in the world ...

    The trick is that after the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine had the largest industrial (military) and agricultural potential among all the breakaway republics, but having squandered everything "illegally acquired", now decided to develop what is, that is, what is left. The trouble with Ukraine is that even this little thing will not be allowed to develop. Europe and the USA do not know where to sell the products of their agricultural producers and they do not expect Ukrainian peasants with their harvests. All the limits that the EU gives to Ukraine, as a rule, are exhausted in two to three months. To amuse oneself that someday Ukraine will rise to the level of China is an absolute utopia based on the fact that today Ukraine does not have a single driver for economic growth, except for the services sector, indecent services and Russophobia. However, your partners are satisfied with this, since it is this niche for Ukraine that has been allocated.

    You have been saying a learned mantra for several decades. The trick is that the entire industrial potential was tied to the Union (Russia) and broke away, by the way, the first ones - there is no need to shift your sins to others ... Here, either lie under you - in order to preserve the sales market, but with a complete loss of sovereignty or towards Europe, the western direction is clearly more attractive. I can't sit on two chairs, I tried it ...
    Europe and the USA do not know where to sell the products of their agricultural producers and they do not expect Ukrainian peasants with their harvests.

    - here you are a contradiction to yourself, then foreign corporations will come in and all will survive, so where to do with the results of their activities if there is no sales market? Do they need it?
    Amuse yourself that someday Ukraine will rise to the level of China is an absolute utopia
    Not only will it rise, but someday it will exceed, hardworking people, vse bude dode.
    Russophobia or Russophilia - it all depends on the government, who will offer it more money, so they will sing. After your aggression in Crimea and Donbass, there are fewer and fewer supporters of not only friendship with you, but just normal relations every year.
  29. -1
    20 August 2020 11: 24
    The news is certainly good, but not for the residents of Novorossiysk. All this is transported by grain trucks to the port by public roads, constant traffic jams, asphalt in a terrible condition, grain carriers constantly arrange road accidents, as everyone is overloaded while planning to build new capacities for grain shipment.
    1. +1
      20 August 2020 15: 47
      It seems like they are planning to build new roads.
  30. -1
    20 August 2020 17: 16
    And what is the cost and quality of bread in Russian stores?
  31. 0
    21 August 2020 16: 43
    One of the reasons why they so wanted to take Ukraine away from us is precisely in the grain market. Together we are invincible (plus Kazakhstan is now independent, the mighty USSR raised virgin lands), colossal resources and opportunities! The first in the world with a margin ...

    And now the Ukrainian land market is being opened to the delight of foreign corporations.

    We need to think, we have strategic resources and opportunities.
    And not just rockets bully which these strategic positions are very strategically protecting themselves!