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USA lost two MQ-9 Reaper drones at once in the sky over Syria

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A strange event happened the other day in Syria with two American MQ-9 Reaper drones. They collided in the air, while it is still unclear whether they were shot down, or the collision occurred due to some kind of malfunction.


Drone collision in the sky over Idlib


The unmanned aerial vehicle incident occurred after strikes with an AGM-114R9X missile were launched in the western part of Idlib province.

Military Times was the first to report a mid-air drone collision. The article stressed that so far it has not been possible to find out what led to the collision of drones.

Meanwhile, on the same day, information spread on social networks that in the province of Idlib, militants of radical groups fighting against the government forces of President Bashar al-Assad shot down two unmanned aerial vehicles of unknown origin.

Initially, it was suggested that the drones belonged to the Russian army, but photos and videos that appeared on social networks refuted this version: at least one of the downed drones was the American MQ-9.


It is worth noting that the radical groups fighting in Idlib, including those actively supported by Turkey, are armed with portable anti-aircraft missile systems that allow them to shoot down air targets. But if American UAVs were shot down by anti-Assad militants, it is not very clear why they needed to destroy the US drones.

It is possible that there was a banal mistake by the militants: they thought they saw Russian or Syrian drones. Since in recent days, American UAVs have often appeared in the skies over Idlib, they could simply have been hit by a "hot hand" or, more precisely, a "fast missile" of anti-Assad militants.

The death of al-Uzbeks and the secret operations of the US Armed Forces in Syria


However, it is highly suspicious that the drone collision occurred after Abu Yahya al-Uzbeki, a well-known military instructor who had recently worked for the terrorist group Khurras al-Din, was killed on August 12. The SUV in which al-Uzbeks was traveling was hit by an American missile. It is known that the American military had previously struck at the positions of the Khurras al-Din grouping, so there was nothing surprising in the destruction of al-Uzbeki's jeep.

USA lost two MQ-9 Reaper drones at once in the sky over Syria

At the same time, it is not known whether the attack on al-Uzbeks was carried out from an unmanned aerial vehicle. As you know, American drones are used in Syria not only for reconnaissance of enemy positions, but also for carrying out strikes against enemy positions.

One of the drones seen in the skies over Idlib on August 17 carried four gray missiles, while the base color of the missiles commonly used on US drones is black, according to US military commentator Joseph Trevithick. According to Trevithick, the different color of the missiles increases the likelihood that the UAV was carrying AGM-179A air-to-ground missiles. These missiles were seen at a military exhibition with gray hulls.


Trevithik writes that according to unconfirmed reports, such missiles could have been used during the strike that killed the commander of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, General Qasem Suleimani, on January 3, 2020. Interestingly, on August 14, photos of two more UAVs were posted on social networks. They were filmed the day after a US missile attack on al-Uzbeki.

There is a version that drones equipped with AGM-114R9X missiles are currently used exclusively by the US Central Intelligence Agency, and not by the Air Force. This increases the likelihood that there were UAVs in the skies over Idlib on a special mission of American intelligence.

At the same time, US Marine General Frank McKenzie said on August 12 that the situation west of the Euphrates River remains very tense. At the same time, the general noted that he does not yet know when the American troops will leave Syria and stressed that if the units of the American army remain in this country, they will continue operations against terrorist groups.
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Twitter / US Air Force
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  1. moreman78
    moreman78 19 August 2020 11: 31 New
    +8
    It's not a pity, they will rivet yet! They have enough money.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 19 August 2020 11: 39 New
      +5
      USA lost two MQ-9 Reaper drones at once in the sky over Syria

      Quote: moreman78
      It's not a pity, they will rivet yet! They have enough money.


      Yes, not the point that "riveted", but in the system failure "friend or foe" wassat

      on social networks, information spread that in the province of Idlib, militants of radical groups fighting against the government forces of President Bashar al-Assad shot down two unmanned aerial vehicles of unknown origin


      And they were shot down, quite possibly either by the Turks, or their "proxy" from MANPADS or the "Hok" air defense system, or the Turkish analogue of "Shilki" - "Korkut" ...
      1. Stalllker
        Stalllker 20 August 2020 03: 34 New
        -2
        and in the failure of the system "friend or foe
        and where is it written that it was shot down with American-made MANPADS ???
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 20 August 2020 19: 58 New
        0
        Rivet, then riveted but not so quickly. And not a cheap tsyatska. Again, the training of operators inspires high hopes that things will get even worse. Or are the operators puffed out of good Dutch bum?))))
    2. Maz
      Maz 19 August 2020 15: 09 New
      +5
      I would like to remind our partners that a week ago, or even less, they hit the positions of the Syrian army. Although they were very much asked not to make such "mistakes" with a bunch of satellites, drones and reconnaissance aircraft in the sky. But apparently it didn’t come ... now it will. Maybe this is the electronic punishment of the Lord from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation arrived? With a hint, they say, harosh bl. rob...? Very similar. And a warning to the under-elected.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 19 August 2020 16: 44 New
        +6
        USD 30 hit the ground in one day!

        It's just some kind of song. If even in a day they will fall like this, no one will have enough money. Even the States. bully
        But they have much more expensive drones.
        1. yehat2
          yehat2 20 August 2020 12: 24 New
          +1
          the US has 2 reconnaissance satellites that stand as an aircraft carrier.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 20 August 2020 12: 54 New
            +1
            Are you suggesting to screw them up too? wink
            This can pull the casus belle.
            1. Quadro
              Quadro 20 August 2020 17: 21 New
              0
              Quote: Alex777
              Are you suggesting to screw them up too? wink
              This can pull the casus belle.

              "Accidentally" crash some old satellite nearby. Well, or drop a bucket of nails)
              1. yehat2
                yehat2 22 August 2020 08: 12 New
                0
                you can simply turn them with their ass to the ground and the connection will be interrupted
  2. Oleg1263
    Oleg1263 19 August 2020 11: 40 New
    0
    It's time to introduce traffic rules for drones, and put traffic lights at intersections. As far as I understand, this is the first collision of two drones? Although ... it may not be accidental ...
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 19 August 2020 11: 56 New
      -11
      Quote: oleg1263
      It's time to introduce traffic rules for drones, and put traffic lights at intersections. As far as I understand, this is the first collision of two drones?

      Tell mewhere have you read about drone collision?
      1. 113262a
        113262a 19 August 2020 12: 25 New
        +9
        Military Times was the first to report a mid-air drone collision. The article stressed that so far it has not been possible to find out what led to the collision of drones.
      2. Prisoner
        Prisoner 19 August 2020 13: 00 New
        +6
        winked "Collision of drones in the sky over Idlib" (c) hi "I have not read the novel, but I condemn the author"? laughing
  3. Lesorub
    Lesorub 19 August 2020 11: 40 New
    +3
    USA lost two MQ-9 Reaper drones at once in the sky over Syria

    The Turks were "a little" wrong with their air defense! )
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 19 August 2020 11: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: Lesorub
      The Turks were "a little" wrong with their air defense!

      Or maybe deliberately shot down.
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 19 August 2020 11: 55 New
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        maybe deliberately shot down.

        I think so. 2 "mistakes" per day, under excellent weather conditions, strange to say the least.
        1. Fat
          Fat 19 August 2020 13: 10 New
          0
          However. This is the weather to the microcircuit. They are drones)))
        2. strelokmira
          strelokmira 19 August 2020 16: 01 New
          0
          They could have confused the UAE with Wing Loong
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 19 August 2020 16: 04 New
            0
            Where is he from in Idlib?
    2. dim0n4
      dim0n4 20 August 2020 06: 47 New
      0
      The fact that the Turks shot down drones has not been proven by anyone
  4. Asad
    Asad 19 August 2020 11: 43 New
    16
    It seems like a trifle, but the soul is more fun!
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 19 August 2020 13: 02 New
      +5
      Well, you can't say that a trifle. Such a good pendel of "supernation". laughing
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 August 2020 11: 45 New
    11
    At the same time, it is unknown ... according to unconfirmed reports ...
    etc. It is not known what it was carrying, it was not known where it struck, it was unknown whether it was shot down or collided. But the main thing is known that the United States lost two UAVs, I hope not for the last time.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 19 August 2020 11: 54 New
      +6
      Quote: rotmistr60
      But the main thing is known that the United States lost two UAVs, I hope not for the last time.

      We will not cry.
  6. made13
    made13 19 August 2020 11: 45 New
    0
    It is a pity that a no-fly zone over Syria has not been declared.
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    1. hydrox
      hydrox 20 August 2020 05: 48 New
      0
      Believe that "expressed the THOUGHT"?
      Please do not do this anymore, because with such a "tenseness of the thought process" not only the door will be kicked out in the toilet of your apartment, but you can fill up the entire entrance, and such an anti-national action smells like an article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation ... laughing yes good
    2. alipes
      alipes 20 August 2020 10: 32 New
      0
      It should be a shame to make two mistakes in one word
  8. svp67
    svp67 19 August 2020 11: 57 New
    +8
    A strange event happened the other day in Syria with two American MQ-9 Reaper drones. They collided in the air, while it is still unclear whether they were shot down, or the collision occurred due to some kind of malfunction.
    Or maybe they were "helped" to face ...
    In one word, TWO EXPENSIVE UAVs per MINUS
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 19 August 2020 12: 20 New
      -7
      Well, not so expensive, they have recaptured theirs. Taking into account depreciation, the residual there is 20-25 million for both.
      1. svp67
        svp67 19 August 2020 12: 22 New
        10
        Quote: donavi49
        Taking into account depreciation, the residual there is 20-25 million for both.

        "Plus" load, "minus" unfulfilled task ...
  9. mvg
    mvg 19 August 2020 12: 08 New
    -13
    Comments are not about that. The first whole fell, it had to be “rescued” or redeemed. True, it is impossible to repeat the equipment there. There are no such Lefties.
    PS: Well, it's already interesting about the "friend or foe" of the export MANPADS laughing
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 19 August 2020 12: 16 New
      -5
      Quote: mvg
      True, it is impossible to repeat the equipment there.

      These are technologies of the 90s of the last century. The United States does not fear their loss, for them these UAVs are already outdated.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 20 August 2020 05: 55 New
        +1
        Can you suggest anything more modern?
        So go ahead - we are all here together waiting for revelations from you ... laughing wassat
  10. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 19 August 2020 12: 20 New
    +2
    Since, in recent days, American UAVs have often appeared in the skies over Idlib ...

    ... they must be shot down by any means, and the movement itself in the airspace of Syria should be regarded as an official invasion, and proceed further in accordance with international agreements, notifying the UN Security Council.
    1. Fat
      Fat 19 August 2020 13: 19 New
      +1
      Fuck. What, for every kite in the UN ... It's probably not very boring without it.)))
  11. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 19 August 2020 12: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Grazdanin
    These are technologies of the 90s of the last century. The United States does not fear their loss, for them these UAVs are already outdated.

    What do they have better than Riper?
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 19 August 2020 12: 54 New
      -9
      Quote: Cyril G ...
      What do they have better than Riper?

      If we talk about the Predator line, that is, with the letter C (Avenger), jet with 2,9 tons of payload.
      And there are so many different UAVs in all classes. It's more a question of choosing a concept and the absence of an enemy. Two hundred Predator Bs will be more than enough for them.
      In 23-24, tests of a number of UAVs for the Army, Air Force, Navy, ILC will end and a decision will be made on the choice of a concept for each type of troops and rearmament.
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 19 August 2020 13: 44 New
        0
        Quote: Grazdanin
        tests of a number of UAVs will end

        Here's how it ends and we'll see ... Reaper is the same police car as Bayraktar
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 19 August 2020 14: 02 New
          -3
          Yes. They and we need to carry out "police" operations. Control the territory, destroy single targets, intimidate. This will always have to be done.
          But these are the first steps, without propeller-driven aircraft it is impossible to switch to jet aircraft. Logical evolution.
          To wage a war against regular troops with advanced fighter aircraft and air defense, qualitatively different UAVs are needed. since This is a relatively new type of weaponry and has a number of fundamental differences from an RPV (remotely piloted aircraft), the concept of combat needs to be changed, it is very expensive and not fast. And there is no hurry for them. While testing and working out theoretical concepts. By the way, the Army recently rolled out another one to overcome the air defense.
          https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/35726/the-army-has-unveiled-its-plan-for-swarms-of-electronic-warfare-enabled-air-launched-drones
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 19 August 2020 14: 05 New
            +1
            To wage a war against regular troops with developed fighter aircraft and air defense, qualitatively different UAVs are needed. since This is a relatively new type of weaponry and has a number of fundamental differences from RPVs (remotely piloted aircraft)
            I can’t disagree. Moreover, this car should be unmanned, and not remotely piloted as it is now. And to act strictly at the level of fulfillment of the combat mission assigned before the departure / adjusted during the flight.

            Why do we have a plug with the "police UAVs", we have already said - the question is, first of all, that we have not dealt with small-sized low-power (50 hp - 550 hp) motors for a very long time. Everything had to be done from scratch.
            1. Grazdanin
              Grazdanin 19 August 2020 14: 11 New
              -3
              Quote: Cyril G ...
              And to act strictly at the level of setting a combat mission.

              Yeah, and in a voice, if we're talking about slave UAVs for fighters. For this, huge computing power is needed on fighters. Analyze huge amounts of information, propose solutions and implement them. Leaving the man only to make fundamental decisions.
              1. Oquzyurd
                Oquzyurd 19 August 2020 20: 22 New
                -1
                The Turks have manufactured the TEI-PG50 engine designed for unmanned aerial vehicles weighing up to 300 kg, and they say that they will be used on kamikaze UAVs.
            2. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 19 August 2020 17: 13 New
              -1
              Now, along with other platforms, drones are used to perform very important coordination tasks ... and so on. The following, completed and used project called "Kement" is a clear proof of this.
              .................................. .................................. .................................. ................
              Ankara 26.06.2019
              Project "Lasso" (Kement) has been successfully completed, aimed at creating a tactical data transmission channel that will provide control over national ammunition after a shot.

              According to the information received by the AA correspondent, in accordance with the contract signed between the Defense Industry Administration (SSB) and Meteksan Defense, the air-to-ground and air-to-air tests as part of the "field acceptance" were successfully carried out.

              In air-to-ground and air-to-air tests, it was possible to achieve maximum image transmission from the longest distance and cross-platform communication.
              Through Project Lasso, which was initiated to significantly contribute to operational capabilities while building the National Tactical Data Link infrastructure, it supports network-supported operations, allowing complex sets of information to be exchanged between elements such as aircraft, ammunition, and mission systems. on the battlefield in real time, and exchange critical data. A national communication system has been developed, operating in the same structure.

              Within the framework of the project, 5 types of terminals for combat air platforms, relay platforms for unmanned aerial vehicles, helicopters, etc. and ground platforms and ammunition were developed. Acceptance tests were also successfully completed, consisting of laboratory, ground, air-ground and air-air tests.

              Air-to-ground and air-to-air tests have confirmed that ammunition-integrated lasso terminals and two separate air platforms are successfully communicating messages and images over an established network at distances exceeding design requirements.

              Can be used on many platforms
              With the help of lasso terminals, a communication system was created, ready to serve the Turkish Armed Forces (TSK), both as a network-enabled data channel (NEW-Network Enabled Weapon capability) and as a tactical data channel.

              These products, which will be an essential element of network operations with national waveform and cryptography, especially for the movement of ammunition on the network, can be used in many applications and platforms that require high-speed transmission of tactical data over a long distance, resistant to electronic warfare.

              Lasso Project, a unique and nationally developed product, increasing the capacity to meet bond data needs, on the one hand, ammunition, and on the other hand, Turkey will take its place among the few connected countries in the world.
  12. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 19 August 2020 12: 41 New
    -10
    The Pan-Arab newspaper Al-Quds al-Arabi draws attention to the escalation of tensions in Syria. A Russian major general died here. In the province of Idlib, a joint Russian-Turkish patrol was blown up by a land mine. It is also reported that the armed opposition shot down three Russian reconnaissance aircraft.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 19 August 2020 12: 52 New
      +9
      Privalov, why is it not specified in the article that the downed planes were stealth planes of the 8th generation? ?? laughing And they are in near space, at an altitude of 111 km ?? lol
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 19 August 2020 13: 21 New
      +5
      Quote: A. Privalov
      the armed opposition reportedly shot down three Russian reconnaissance aircraft

      Auction - "Who is bigger ?"
    3. The comment was deleted.
    4. Varaga
      Varaga 19 August 2020 22: 56 New
      +2
      ... And five more "turntables" fell and ten tanks were destroyed. Didn't the "Pan-Arab newspaper" tell you about this ?! How is that?!
  13. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 19 August 2020 12: 47 New
    +4
    the general noted that he does not yet know when American troops will leave Syria
    Any child knows this - how hydrocarbon deposits and other minerals will be depleted.
  14. Sibguest
    Sibguest 19 August 2020 13: 08 New
    0
    Barmaley had fun ..... boring ... looking for a target - what they found, that's why they fired.
  15. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 19 August 2020 13: 20 New
    +2
    There is a possibility that the remaining missiles fell along with the UAV ... It's a pity that this did not happen in the territory controlled by Assad's troops!
  16. alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 19 August 2020 13: 23 New
    0
    We look forward to repeating .. By popular demand
  17. RealPilot
    RealPilot 19 August 2020 13: 27 New
    +1
    It is not important how it fell ... But who found it!
  18. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 19 August 2020 14: 02 New
    0
    Who did this?
  19. senima56
    senima56 19 August 2020 16: 29 New
    +1
    "The United States lost two MQ-9 Reaper drones at once in the skies over Syria" - Ay-ay-ay-ay-ay! lol
  20. Varaga
    Varaga 19 August 2020 21: 47 New
    0
    Or maybe ours "helped" them. Electronic warfare ...
    1. Split
      Split 19 August 2020 22: 01 New
      +1
      Most likely the Chinese are their batteries lol
      1. Varaga
        Varaga 19 August 2020 22: 09 New
        +1
        Good too. At least some benefit from useless things. laughing
        1. Split
          Split 19 August 2020 22: 15 New
          +1
          Nope, they are not useless ... they can cut budgets! A friend of mine is looking for cheap china ... the battery died by car in 2 years. On my old Aveo (loin) - the battery lived the original for 8 years. The fact that the previous owner did not change it is confirmed by the fact that the fasteners had to be cut off with a grinder and changed his basket last year before the sale and owned it for 6 years (+3 not me)
          1. Varaga
            Varaga 19 August 2020 22: 52 New
            0
            I had a case too. Instead of the declared "warranty" three years, I worked for only one year.
            1. Split
              Split 19 August 2020 23: 05 New
              0
              I took pity on the future owner of avechka, took the original Bosch, right now I took "control the dream" ... not Toyota (whose videos have already become a meme) Honda Civic 5d with an ideal engine ... but the battery needs to be changed ... laughing
  21. Shahno
    Shahno 19 August 2020 22: 20 New
    -1
    Everyone learns from mistakes. News about it?
    Ps. Whoever has more room to maneuver, political and financial learns much faster ...
  22. APASUS
    APASUS 20 August 2020 19: 39 New
    0
    Interesting infa. And where are these super computers, spy satellites, almighty US intelligence, if I don't even understand what happened?