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“We need to think not with an iPhone, but with our head”: Lukashenka named the main condition for holding new elections

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Alexander Lukashenko, declared the winner of the presidential election by the CEC, made a statement that is actively discussed both in Belarus and abroad. If a few hours ago Lukashenka announced that the choice had been made and there would be no re-elections in the Republic of Belarus, now he is playing back to a certain extent.


According to the head of the Republic of Belarus, new elections in the country are still possible. At the same time, he voiced the main condition for their holding.
Alexander Lukashenko said that the elections can be held only after the amendments to the Constitution of the Republic of Belarus.

According to Lukashenka, the new Constitution should be adopted at an all-Belarusian referendum.

President of the Republic of Belarus:

According to the new Constitution, if you want, to hold elections - of the parliament, the president, and all new authorities.

These statements were made during Lukashenka's visit to MZKT. Initially, the press service of the President of Belarus did not report them.
Lukashenko:

You, hard workers, set your requirements, demand, shout, but just do not stop production, otherwise it will be like in the mid-90s. You need to think not with your iPhone, but with your brains.

But in the meantime, some production in Belarus was still stopped, at least in part. For example, miners of Belaruskali announced that ore production was stopped:

Ore does not go.

Against this background, Kiev decided to recall its ambassador from Minsk, reportedly for consultations.
Photos used:
website of the President of Belarus
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  1. snucerist
    snucerist 17 August 2020 17: 59 New
    -15
    Well, let's go feints with the ears. Who would doubt that.
    But how can you "play back" when everything has already been lost?
    Well, trying to stall for time, that's clear. But what will it do? Nobody will bet on it.
    As for guarantees, it was necessary to bargain earlier, when there were at least some trump cards on hand.
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 17 August 2020 18: 14 New
      53
      They will bet.
      And this will be Russia.
      There are no other options yet.
      His trump card is Belarus itself and the border with Russia.
      If it is swept away by the Maidan, NATO will definitely stand on this border.
      And for the Republic of Belarus, this will be the end of industrial status.
      No one in the west needs Belaz, tractors or tractors produced in the Republic of Belarus.
      Its producers are in abundance.
      Belarus will become an agrarian country producing technical agricultural crops for biofuel production and a supplier of labor.
      This will become a historical tragedy for the people of the Republic of Belarus.
      1. Pavel73
        Pavel73 17 August 2020 18: 17 New
        40
        In Europe and its agricultural industry heaps.
        1. Livonetc
          Livonetc 17 August 2020 18: 34 New
          18
          Quote: Pavel73
          In Europe and its agricultural industry heaps.

          This refers to those crops that, for one reason or another, are inappropriate to produce in Europe.
          Crops for biofuel production.
          Genetically modified crops and so on and so on.
          For example, Bulgaria, upon joining the European Union, covered up the possibility of exporting bell peppers.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 17 August 2020 18: 42 New
            -13
            According to the head of the Republic of Belarus, new elections in the country are still possible. At the same time, he voiced the main condition for their holding.
            Alexander Lukashenko said that the elections can be held only after the amendments to the Constitution of the Republic of Belarus.

            Really conceived to zero?
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 17 August 2020 22: 41 New
              0
              He did it a long time ago.
          2. Tatyana
            Tatyana 17 August 2020 18: 58 New
            +4
            Against this background, Kiev decided to recall its ambassador from Minsk, reportedly for consultations.
            As for the consultations, this is very noteworthy, since there is not only Ukraine's interference in the organization of the STATE REVOLUTION in Belarus from Kiev, but also a radical Nazi STATE REVOROT is planned in Kiev itself, which does not bode well for neighboring countries. Namely.

            When we talk now about the events in the Republic of Belarus, we must not forget about the neighbors - and especially about neighboring Ukraine, since sent organized units of Ukrainian nationalists of the Bandera persuasion have been operating in Belarus for several days in a confrontation with the Belarusian militia, allegedly on behalf of the "general "popular" anti-Lukashenskaya Belarusian opposition on the ground. On August 12, Igor Misaychuk admitted that these units were sent from Ukraine to Belarus, who personally sent them there.

            So, the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada from the Opposition Platform - For Life party Ilya Kiva said that Poroshenko was preparing a coup d'etat in Ukraine on August 24.
            "Poroshenko finances nationalist groups, preparing them for the Independence Day march, which should develop into a confrontation with the authorities and end with a coup d'etat," Kiva said.
            It is planned to seize "several administrative buildings, possibly even the Office of the President", with the demand for early presidential and parliamentary elections
            For more details, see https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5f38927c9a79471fdcef2cfb?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop.

            To the question: "Why does Washington need a coup in Ukraine through Poroshenko? And on August 24?" - can answer.

            August 24 is a convenient occasion for the mass gathering in Kiev and the STATE REVOROT by the Ukrainian Nazis.
            And for Washington, the reason for supporting the STATE REVOROT in Kiev may be the OFFICIAL armed support of Kiev for the Maidan STATE REVOROT in the neighboring Republic of Belarus from the territory of Ukraine.
            This is a very transparent US technology in organizing and supporting STATE REVOLUTIONS in other countries, as it was, for example, in Venezuela with Gauido.

            Well, Poroshenko himself needs to get away from criminal responsibility in Ukraine and keep his stolen illegitimate business assets. He is now actively financing the Ukrainian "Bandera" members. And it is possible that even through some intermediary CIA cash desk on its own behalf from Washington.
            1. Revival
              Revival 17 August 2020 23: 17 New
              -1
              Very such a plan ... dubious for Poroshenko's prospects
              In this case, an excellent presenter is created to protect "everyone" and immediately for another player in the region
              1. bayard
                bayard 18 August 2020 00: 23 New
                0
                In the Ukraine it is quite possible, in Belarus now everything is shaking and for the head of Lukashenka already ... they do not give much, but whether Russia in this case would want to take on the role of "freedom executioner" ... there are great doubts.
                In 2014, Russia had the BEST cards in hand and did not use them.
                And he's not going to.
                This is not the Soviet Union!
                This is a capitalist, bourgeois-oligarchic ... plutocracy.
                Putin is not ruling Russia.
                He does not make decisions.
                Not him at all.
                And such as Gref, Kirienko, and other Chubais-Rotenbergs.
                They and Russia do not feel sorry for (especially its people), and even Belarusians ... especially Lukashenko, whom no one feels sorry for.
                We, the people, feel sorry for the Belarusians.
                It's a shame to anger for our 33 guys.
                It is disgusting from all those throwing and flirting of Lukash with our (and YOUR) enemies.
                And you cannot surrender Belarus - this is our land, these are our people - RUSSIANS.
                But the collective Kremlin can COMPLETELY drain.
                And even less will it go to a power operation.
                Especially against (in salvation) the former Ukraine.
                There (in the Kremlin) completely different people ...
                It's a pity .
                Now I really should untie my hands ...
                But there are chess players ... "who have lost their country at chess."
                And they don't care.
                They seem to be gone now AT ALL.
            2. Misha Honest
              Misha Honest 18 August 2020 00: 28 New
              -13
              Here I sit and read all this nonsense in the comments ... and I do not understand (sincerely) what prevents the Russian Federation from finally bringing the Russian Federation troops into the territory of the former republics of the Union ... and finally putting things in order? yes
              1. arlekin
                arlekin 18 August 2020 04: 49 New
                +1
                Quote: Misha Honest
                Here I sit and read all this nonsense in the comments ... and I do not understand (sincerely) what prevents the Russian Federation from finally bringing the Russian Federation troops into the territory of the former republics of the Union ... and finally putting things in order? yes

                For some reason I remembered:
                "You are at the lowest stage of development, you are just a forming, mentally weak being, ...
                and you ... allow yourself with completely unbearable swagger to give some advice of a cosmic scale and cosmic stupidity. "(c)
                1. Misha Honest
                  Misha Honest 18 August 2020 09: 10 New
                  0
                  Perhaps you are right about something. wink
          3. Gado
            Gado 17 August 2020 20: 17 New
            44
            We were banned a lot, especially after joining the EU. The armed forces were reduced to a minimum, the police were three times as much, the factories were destroyed, the prices were inflated, etc., I can say a lot more.
            When the events in Ukraine began, on the pages of VO, we, Bulgarians, warned about the consequences, because we ourselves have gone through this and are still going, now is the time to warn the Belarusians. People, absolute freedom is still a chimera, but they won't let you live honestly, just like they won't let us. And you will go into slaves, although well paid, but all the same, slaves. And you will remember your "dictator" with emotion, as we now remember our Todor Zhivkov. And you will regret 100 times that you believed in "democracy" and the promises of some "concerned" on the other side of the world.
            I wish you more brains to think well and health to go through all this.
            I wish you success, Belarusian people!
            1. Temples
              Temples 17 August 2020 21: 30 New
              -22
              Quote: Gado
              I wish you success, Belarusian people!

              Quote: Gado
              People, absolute freedom is still a chimera


              Bolgar, you just don't give birth to our brains.
              What the hell freedom do you have and we lack?
              Give an example.

              But you are cheerful people:
              1. Gado
                Gado 17 August 2020 22: 02 New
                15
                Well, I see that your logic is fine. And I even found a photo. Well done!
                1. Temples
                  Temples 18 August 2020 09: 53 New
                  -1
                  The example of "freedom" was never followed.
                  Whining about yesterday's "good" remains whining.

                  A Bulgarian crying about yesterday speaks of a certain freedom that turned out to be a chimera.

                  The question is simple - what is it talking about? What freedom did he lack before?

                  There is a word, but no meaning.

                  Here he sits at the broken trough.

                  All "freedom" in the West is freedom from conscience and norms of behavior in society. That's it, ales.

                  The Russians are still a stupid rod in Bulgaria. They are buying real estate. They are resettled. They are bringing their families.
                  So it's not all that bad.
                  And freedom has nothing to do with it. And Russia freedom and Bulgaria. Where you like there and live.

                  And only prisoners need freedom. Those who locked themselves first. And the country does not play any role here.
                  1. Gado
                    Gado 18 August 2020 12: 49 New
                    0
                    So, everything is clear with you. I didn’t understand what I wrote at all. Well, I'll try to explain.
                    Have you never heard the slogans about "democracy" and "freedom"? About their lack, about "bloody dictators" and "evil empires"? I thought that more or less reasonable people are commenting here, but it looks like ...
                    My nagging is not from a good life, although you may be right - nagging whining. I sit at a broken trough and think how many troughs have been broken over the years, what do you have, what do we have, how many good people have gone into oblivion and how many bad faces every day show us how to live. These are my thoughts, and you tell me about the Russians who go to Bulgaria or not.
                    Russian, although you may not be Russian, just a Russian, you still do not understand anything. I have everything for you.
            2. Campanella
              Campanella 17 August 2020 23: 58 New
              +3
              Nice words, Gado!
              Only it will hardly be possible to stop this western car! They have total control over the media and the film industry, which are turning nations into zombies!
              1. Gado
                Gado 18 August 2020 01: 15 New
                +8
                Thank you Campanella!
                That's why I wrote above what I wrote. And I know about Western propaganda first-hand - it flows continuously through all our channels. I was born during the Soviet Union and the NRB and this fact allowed me and my contemporaries to have a unique chance to compare what was and what is now. But we are already getting old and new generations are coming, who are being trained to hate Russia, Russians and Russian culture. And in 20-30 years it will turn out that from the fraternal people the Russians will receive another Russophobic state, in which even now generations with brainwashed do not know their own language and their own culture, not to mention Russian, although the trend is already visible in your country. I can write a lot more, but what's the point?
                All the best to you!
                1. Campanella
                  Campanella 18 August 2020 10: 11 New
                  0
                  And good luck to you!
          4. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 17 August 2020 20: 43 New
            -26
            For example, Bulgaria, upon joining the European Union, covered up the possibility of exporting bell peppers.


            Stirlitz ....... Well, like a normal person, but what do you think, when you write this rubbish, for me a secret. In the EU, by definition, there are no borders, travel bans, work bans and sales restrictions.
            1. lopvlad
              lopvlad 17 August 2020 21: 55 New
              17
              Quote: Keyser Soze
              In the EU, by definition, there are no borders, travel bans, work bans and sales restrictions.


              in the EU there is the most important thing from which all "recruits" are bent, namely quotas for the production and sale of everything (from manure to electricity). If, in the case of agricultural products, you simply cannot sell everything above the quota within the EU, then the requirements for industrial production are much more serious. If you do not close certain nuclear power plants (for example, BELAES) and certain factories (for example, the production of tractors in Belarus, then you will not receive assistance or loans from EU.
              This is if we do not yet touch on interference in the internal affairs of the state (the requirement to raise tariffs within the country, the requirement to observe European values ​​(in particular the rights of the sadomites), etc.).
              The EU is not the USSR for you, which made every republic that entered it into a self-sufficient state with all sectors of the economy and agriculture. Europe invites all countries that entered it to do self-mutilation and simply cut off an arm or a leg (to eliminate this or that type of industry or agricultural production).
              This is done apparently also because they do not scatter back.
            2. Valter1364
              Valter1364 17 August 2020 22: 55 New
              +3
              "Keyser Soze" Would write in English, maybe there were fewer mistakes, although not a fact.
          5. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 17 August 2020 20: 45 New
            13
            Quote: Livonetc
            For example, Bulgaria, upon joining the European Union, covered up the possibility of exporting bell peppers.

            How many times Estonia fought with the European Union so that 3,5% of milk and the catch of sprat and Baltic herring were left in the republics for food purposes. So she is a member of the EU.
          6. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 17 August 2020 21: 04 New
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            I will say it very briefly. Whoever wants to - will carefully study and come to the same conclusion.
            I'm an elderly person, but my memory and brains are still normal.
            I am speaking for those who already remember poorly or in general know only from the words of crafty "historians" and "politicians" (born later).
            Now in Belarus the situation is VERY similar to 1991 in the USSR and 2014 in Ukraine.
            Then they also promised a lot, but it turned out - jo-pa !!!
            BELARUSS BROTHERS! DO NOT BELIEVE THE PROVOCATORS!
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 17 August 2020 21: 23 New
              -3
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              I will say it very briefly. Whoever wants to - will carefully study and come to the same conclusion.
              I'm an elderly person, but my memory and brains are still normal.
              I am speaking for those who already remember poorly or in general know only from the words of crafty "historians" and "politicians" (born later).
              Now in Belarus the situation is VERY similar to 1991 in the USSR and 2014 in Ukraine.
              Then they also promised a lot, but it turned out - jo-pa !!!
              BELARUSS BROTHERS! DO NOT BELIEVE THE PROVOCATORS!

              Your comment is not in trend on the site now, come back in a couple of years, when the Republic of Belarus merges with Ukraine into one big ...
              1. Sergey M. Karasev
                Sergey M. Karasev 18 August 2020 02: 40 New
                -1
                After a couple of years,
                when Belarus merges with Ukraine into one big ...

                it will be too late to write, invoke, and exhort. Many ukrov succumbed to such calls?
                And all adequate Belarusians will be forced to flee from their homeland, some to the forest, some to the partisans.
              2. Vlad.by
                Vlad.by 18 August 2020 08: 27 New
                -1
                Well, that's what they fought for, they ran into it:

                http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DCjwMwpgTKkJ:zabelarus.com/ru/2020/06/25/security-2/+&cd=1&hl=ru&ct=clnk&gl=ru

                This, allegedly, the Belarusians themselves "invented" ...
                I saw and went nuts!
            2. My doctor
              My doctor 17 August 2020 21: 27 New
              15
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              BELARUSS BROTHERS! DO NOT BELIEVE THE PROVOCATORS!

              You see, this is the situation. Provocateurs in the government, what the hell they attributed to Lukashenka 80%, well, they would write 60%, we would understand. The fact of the matter is that we do not trust anyone. There is no opposition in principle. The president has no one to negotiate with.
              1. Romka
                Romka 17 August 2020 22: 01 New
                -9
                Because according to Lukashenka’s logic, 60% can be forged, and 80% “well, impossible”!
                1. My doctor
                  My doctor 17 August 2020 22: 14 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Romka
                  Because according to Lukashenka’s logic, 60% can be forged, and 80% “well, impossible”!

                  Because we, in principle, admit that someone voted for him.
                2. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 17 August 2020 22: 26 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Romka
                  Because according to Lukashenka’s logic, 60% can be forged, and 80% “well, impossible”!

                  Just 60 + -% would have looked psychologically more realistic - well, I would have written 57-58 percent in general, I am sure - no one would have particularly protested!
                  1. Vlad.by
                    Vlad.by 18 August 2020 00: 42 New
                    10
                    They would definitely protest! The money was invested in the protest in advance, and quite a lot! Even if Tikhanovskaya had 51% to 30, there would be even more screams about rigging the results. Well, “we won, after all,” and he added “3%” to himself.
                    1. My doctor
                      My doctor 18 August 2020 21: 04 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Vlad.by
                      They would definitely protest! The money was invested in the protest in advance, and quite a lot! Even if Tikhanovskaya had 51% to 30, there would be even more screams about rigging the results. Well, “we won, after all,” and he added “3%” to himself.

                      You see, it's a question of trust. There is no reason to trust.
                  2. Sergey M. Karasev
                    Sergey M. Karasev 18 August 2020 02: 54 New
                    +2
                    Well, I would write 57-58 percent in general, I am sure - no one would have particularly protested!

                    Not a fact at all! Let us recall the Ukrainian "orange" Maidan in 2004, where the difference between Yanukovych and Yushchenko was only 3%. This is exactly what Yushchenko seized upon, announcing Yanukovych's 3% advantage as falsifications in the vote count and demanding recognition of his convincing victory without a second round. Perhaps the AHL took this experience into account, but overdid it, ascribing to itself an absolutely incredible advantage. And it turned out what happened.
                    1. Albert1988
                      Albert1988 18 August 2020 11: 44 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                      there the difference between Yanukovych and Yushchenko was only 3%. This is what Yushchenko seized upon,

                      Well, then there are 57% and 43% - since in Ukraine in 2004 you will not grasp ...
                      1. Sergey M. Karasev
                        Sergey M. Karasev 18 August 2020 14: 39 New
                        +1
                        You can, in principle, grab any numbers. There would be will and desire.
                      2. Albert1988
                        Albert1988 18 August 2020 14: 43 New
                        0
                        Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                        You can, in principle, grab any numbers. There would be will and desire.

                        Of course, but a very small difference, just like an incredibly large one, is much easier to grasp.
                      3. Sergey M. Karasev
                        Sergey M. Karasev 18 August 2020 14: 48 New
                        +1
                        Perhaps you are right.
          7. rocket757
            rocket757 18 August 2020 08: 38 New
            0
            Quote: MyVrach
            what the hell they attributed to Lukashenka 80%, well, they would write 60%, we would understand.

            There would be more different candidates, different ones, they would drag free / vacillating voters into their own small groups, all the same, the dad would have MORE than any of them! But now there would not be so many of those who shout "LEAVE" !!!
            If we assume that he didn’t think of this himself ... but, anyway, he himself, not himself, they will hang it all on him, BY SHIT!
        2. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 18 August 2020 12: 28 New
          +2
          I explain again for those who DO NOT understand, doubt and other idiots:

          Eurointegrators-provocateurs zmagars NAGLO lie just to seize power!
          They act exactly according to Filatov's patterns: "Promise everything to these creatures! We will hang them later!"
          They lie that they are not acting on orders and for the money of the West, but at the call of their hearts!
          They lie that they are not against Russia, but for friendship with her!
          They lie that they are against only faulty Lukashenka and the authorities, but for the people, the welfare of Belarus and Belarusians!
          They lie that they won the elections!
          They lie that ALL the people are for them!

          REMEMBER: CHECK YOUR REPA NOW - BE THEN COMBATING IT CONTINUOUSLY AND PULLING HAIR (everywhere)! And you will suffer and scatter around the world in search of earnings and a better life like the Balts, Ukrainians ...
    2. venik
      venik 17 August 2020 19: 16 New
      +7
      Quote: Pavel73
      In Europe and its agricultural industry heaps.

      =======
      It's right! But there are unprofitable crops that are grown only with the help of state subsidies! For example - sugar beet (cane sugar is much cheaper). There is also rape, which quickly depletes the soil. These cultures and some other Gayropeans would like to transfer them to the "raw materials" appendages ... ... It's not a pity for them (in the sense of "appendages")! The main thing is to preserve your soil!
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 August 2020 20: 42 New
      +9
      Quote: Pavel73
      In Europe and its agricultural industry heaps.

      In the European Union, all agricultural production is based on quotas. Look at what goes from Ukraine to the European Union and what quotas are given to them, and these quotas cannot be compared even with the quotas of the Baltic states.
  2. snucerist
    snucerist 17 August 2020 18: 32 New
    -24
    Why does Russia need this loser who has lost everything? Which will henceforth be in constant confrontation with its own people? Who needs this persistent headache?
    As for the Maidan ... It has long been noticed by smart people: if an uprising can no longer be prevented or extinguished, then it must be led.
    The question is how to do it elegantly and efficiently? Apparently, this task is now being solved in the Kremlin. Father, of course, will have to shelter in the conditional Rostov, you need to keep it with you, knows too much.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 17 August 2020 18: 34 New
      +9
      The question is how to do it elegantly and efficiently? Apparently, this task is now being solved in the Kremlin.

      Perhaps you are right here ... time will tell ... as long as Lukashenka is supported by the army and the Interior Ministry, he will be unsinkable.
      1. snucerist
        snucerist 17 August 2020 18: 57 New
        -3
        Does the army support? After what happened? Are you sure about that? But information about the unlawful use of force will seep into the information space further, and this flow will only grow every day.
        And the Ministry of Internal Affairs is a capacious concept. OMON is one thing, these are already tied to Lukashenka by a brutal crackdown. But this is not all the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
        1. Sergey39
          Sergey39 17 August 2020 19: 24 New
          +7
          Quote: snucerist
          But information about the unlawful use of force will seep into the information space further, and this flow will only grow every day.

          This information will continue to leak out, regardless of whether the event took place or not. And if Lukashenka is in power, then he is supported by the army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
          1. snucerist
            snucerist 17 August 2020 21: 04 New
            -4
            "... if Lukashenko is in power ..."
            You forgot to insert a keyword into this phrase - bye.
        2. Sanche
          Sanche 17 August 2020 20: 36 New
          -4
          Quote: snucerist
          But information about the unlawful use of force will seep into the information space further, and this flow will only grow every day.

          Sure! Now the bulk of the beaten and crippled in the isolation wards will begin to leave. There may be a few deaths added as there are several dozen missing.
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 18 August 2020 12: 00 New
            +1
            Quote: Sanche
            Now the bulk of the beaten and crippled in the isolation wards will begin to leave. Several deaths may be added

            and then the army will go for the opposition! not otherwise! stand up as one and follow Guaido! laughing
            By the way, everyone was shouting that the army was on the side of the protesters wink
    2. svp67
      svp67 17 August 2020 18: 45 New
      17
      Quote: snucerist
      Why does Russia need this loser who has lost everything?

      For now, at least in order to prevent Tikhonovskaya ...
      1. Kisa
        Kisa 17 August 2020 19: 15 New
        +2
        that's it "bye". everyone is obviously a downed pilot. Why should the Kremlin bet on a loser. in a month he will be thrown off and his reputation will only be spoiled and the Belarusians will be turned away.
        1. Sanche
          Sanche 17 August 2020 20: 38 New
          -9
          Quote: kitty
          Why should the Kremlin bet on a loser.

          Only a loser bets on a loser laughing
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 18 August 2020 12: 01 New
            -1
            Quote: Sanche
            Only a loser bets on a loser

            are you talking about Tikhanovskaya who is hiding abroad?
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 19 August 2020 08: 48 New
              +1
              Quote: SanichSan
              Quote: Sanche
              Only a loser bets on a loser

              are you talking about Tikhanovskaya who is hiding abroad?

              no, it's about the Ukrainian people who have chosen losers twice in a row ...
        2. Sergey M. Karasev
          Sergey M. Karasev 18 August 2020 03: 04 New
          -1
          You can get Babariko out of prison and bet on him in a possible re-election. If he is really pro-Russian, but here there are doubts.
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 18 August 2020 12: 03 New
            -1
            Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
            You can get Babariko out of prison and bet on him in a possible re-election.

            Babariko and Tikhanovskaya from the same sponsors.
            1. Sergey M. Karasev
              Sergey M. Karasev 18 August 2020 14: 46 New
              +1
              I say:
              there are doubts.

              Only the Tikhanovskys have children in the EU, while Babariko has children in Moscow. And Babariko was the chairman of the board of Belgazprombank (a subsidiary of Gazprombank). so there is reason for its "pro-Russian"
              1. Sanichsan
                Sanichsan 18 August 2020 16: 16 New
                0
                Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                so there is reason for its "pro-Russian"

                after the announcement of the withdrawal from the CSTO? well, finally, pro-Russian ...
                again, this is a card from the same deck. a normal person is needed, not an "oppositionist from Lukashenko."
                1. Sergey M. Karasev
                  Sergey M. Karasev 18 August 2020 17: 49 New
                  +1
                  It means that we urgently need to look for someone else to be both against Lukashenka and for Russia, and well-known and popular at the same time. There must be such people, Lukash did not interrupt everyone!
                  1. Sanichsan
                    Sanichsan 18 August 2020 20: 20 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                    to be both against Lukashenko and for Russia at the same time

                    enough to be neutral Luke and pro-Russian. to enter into confrontation with the current government without having any positions is not reasonable.
                    Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                    quite famous and popular. There must be such people, Lukash did not interrupt everyone!

                    I do not know of those request like everyone.
                  2. Sergey M. Karasev
                    Sergey M. Karasev 19 August 2020 02: 03 New
                    0
                    The anti-Lukashenka candidates now have more chances to win than even the neutral ones.
  3. Dmitry10SPb
    Dmitry10SPb 17 August 2020 18: 50 New
    -7
    Everything is correct. But about the Kremlin - excessive optimism. I'm afraid they are looking for a rake that must be stepped on immediately. To make it work as usual. Oh, they will eventually push Belarus into NATO. It would seem, pick up your passing candidate ...
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 17 August 2020 19: 26 New
      +5
      Quote: Dmitry10SPb
      But about the Kremlin - excessive optimism

      Well, how did the Kremlin forget to consult with you? laughing
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 17 August 2020 19: 53 New
        -1
        Quote: Sergey39
        Well, how did the Kremlin forget to consult with you?

        What is our Foreign Ministry doing in general? In addition to concerns, nothing is heard from him. Well, also the fact that there is nothing for our poor people to ride abroad. And where is the result of these non-DBs?
        1. dauria
          dauria 17 August 2020 20: 05 New
          10
          What is our Foreign Ministry doing in general? In addition to concerns, nothing is heard from him


          The Foreign Ministry is waiting for the Kremlin's decisions. But I don't know what the Kremlin will decide. To do this, you need to understand what stopped Putin in 2014. In the event of the loss of Belarus, the failure and the damage for Russia is unthinkable.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 17 August 2020 20: 09 New
            +3
            Quote: dauria
            But I don't know what the Kremlin will decide.

            The Kremlin has filled its mouth with water and is silent. It looks like they will wait for at least some kind of certainty in the Belarusian kingdom.
            1. Plastmaster
              Plastmaster 17 August 2020 20: 47 New
              +5
              I listened to this certainty at a factory meeting and was amazed. What are the workers in Belarus, advanced and politically savvy. What competent questions are asked and in such a calm voice, practiced, And their fotiki are not frail. So they click. It's one thing to be on the street, another in factories, like, for sure, a popular riot. This certainty smacks of Western intelligence and preparation.
              1. Campanella
                Campanella 18 August 2020 00: 08 New
                0
                Yes, I also heard how the workers are angrily preoccupied with the beatings of Belarusians and political prisoners, they simply cannot work, they are so worried!)))
              2. Grits
                Grits 18 August 2020 05: 54 New
                +4
                Quote: Plastmaster
                I listened to this certainty at a factory meeting and was amazed. What are the workers in Belarus, advanced and politically savvy.

                Why are you surprised? Judging by Soviet films and literature, before 1917, workers on the sly read Karl Marx's Capital on the sly. wink
            2. Albert1988
              Albert1988 17 August 2020 22: 31 New
              +1
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              The Kremlin has filled its mouth with water and is silent. It looks like they will wait for at least some kind of certainty in the Belarusian kingdom.

              Why is it silent - real politics is done in high offices and long corridors, and speaking to the public on TV is the tenth thing ...
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 17 August 2020 22: 36 New
                +2
                Quote: Albert1988
                real politics is done in high offices and long corridors, and speaking to the public on TV is the tenth thing ...

                I don't think that people in Belarus came out to hear: "They say, we work here, and you are the tenth thing."
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 17 August 2020 22: 41 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  I don't think that people came out in Belarus to

                  People, this concept is very broad, moreover, these are the people of Belarus, Russia cannot officially address them, moreover, if there is a game with the "dad", it will be very harmful - maybe "Rygorych" is completely off the hook if Russia starts "over the head" with the Belarusians to conduct a dialogue. "Old Man", by the way, made some interesting speeches himself - they say a referendum and all that, I do not exclude that he could be prompted, from our direction.
                2. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 17 August 2020 22: 49 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Albert1988
                  People, this concept is very broad, moreover, these are the people of Belarus, Russia cannot officially address them,

                  And the policy of silence will not lead to anything good. Our authorities have not indicated any position on Belarus yet. IMHO, but this is foolishness.
                3. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 17 August 2020 23: 08 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  And the policy of silence will not lead to anything good.

                  For society, yes, it can cause a lot of unnecessary fermentation.
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  Our authorities have not indicated any position on Belarus yet. IMHO, but this is foolishness.

                  It is possible that our authorities simply did not expect that "Rygorych" would break so much firewood and everything would result in what we have now, so, apparently, ours are now frantically working out this very position. So there is nothing to voice ...
            3. Narak-zempo
              Narak-zempo 18 August 2020 00: 02 New
              -1
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              I don't think that people in Belarus came out to hear: "They say, we work here, and you are the tenth thing."

              Smart people themselves should understand where their place is, and not hum. And if the mind is not enough, then there is someone to enlighten.
            4. Campanella
              Campanella 18 August 2020 00: 17 New
              0
              What happened there? From 18 to 30 years old ... this is certainly a people, but is it all and most of it?
              And for the rest of the people who are waiting and silent, the opposition speaks, which is worthless on a market day, choirs, TV and radio hosts, journalists ... all the intelligentsia, which and the Union just merged for freedom.
              And threw Russia into the hands of criminals!
              The first to receive dividends will be criminals in Belarus!
              The Bulbashs will never know how their campaign for freedom will end!
              As a contemporary wrote, "A fresh wind of change has always been blown through the bottom of our bank!"
            5. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 18 August 2020 01: 14 New
              0
              Quote: Campanella
              And for the rest of the people who are waiting and silent, the opposition says

              Why is he silent? The riot police do not bludgeon the liver, unlike those who are against it, no one threatens to expel from work, yell for Luka at least three throats. And he is waiting for something there.
              Quote: Campanella
              a market-day opposition

              Probably the director of FC BATE is not worth a price, since he took his police major uniform to the trash heap.
    2. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 17 August 2020 20: 52 New
      +2
      To do this, you need to understand what stopped Putin in 2014.

      The same thing stopped him in 2008, although Aifonchik was formally then president. Lack of a coherent foreign policy.
    3. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 17 August 2020 21: 10 New
      +4
      Quote: dauria
      In the event of the loss of Belarus, the failure and damage for Russia is unthinkable.

      And also the shame and the borders of the Muscovy ... I don't know, I would have caught up with specialists in Belarus - intelligence, analysts, advisers, gave money to Luka (signed!), Bought part of the opposition, joint exercises with Belarusians, the Ministry of Internal Affairs sent to help .. There are many ways! We are a union state !!
      1. Icarus
        Icarus 17 August 2020 21: 56 New
        -5
        [/ Quote]
        Quote: 30 vis
        [quote = dauria] In the event of the loss of Belarus, the failure and damage for Russia is unthinkable.

        And also the shame and the borders of the Muscovy ... I don't know, I would have caught up with specialists in Belarus - intelligence, analysts, advisers, gave money to Luka (signed!), Bought part of the opposition, joint exercises with Belarusians, the Ministry of Internal Affairs sent to help .. There are many ways! We are a union state !!

        We are a union state - that's right. And in the state, power belongs to the people. Therefore, our people are an ally to the people of Belarus, and not to individuals. And everything else that you wrote (“I would now catch up specialists in Belarus - intelligence, analysts, advisers, gave money to Luka (signed!), Bought part of the opposition, joint exercises with Belarusians, the Ministry of Internal Affairs sent to help)” these are yours - Wishlist, for which you are not going to answer either with your head, or before your people, or before the people of Belarus.
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 17 August 2020 22: 08 New
          +5
          And the state created by this people is responsible for the people and their interests ...
      2. Grits
        Grits 18 August 2020 06: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: 30 vis
        There are many ways!

        There is another option. Officially from Russia to propose to hold a referendum in Belarus on joining the Russian Federation as another Federal District. Transparent, under close supervision of the parties. Then the president won't be needed either. Neither Luka nor Tikhanovskaya. If they refuse or vote against - let them roll with their independence. Anyway, in this case, they will fall into the clutches of the EU and NATO with a killed economy and an impoverished population. Give them another chance, at which they will say what they want - a great country or a lacy panties.
      3. Sanche
        Sanche 18 August 2020 14: 00 New
        -1
        Quote: 30 vis
        I don’t know, I would have caught up to Belarus specialists - intelligence, analysts, advisers, gave money to Luka (signed!), Bought part of the opposition, joint exercises with Belarusians, the Ministry of Internal Affairs sent to help .. There are many ways! We are a union state !!

        5-10 years ago, perhaps such a tactic would have worked. Maybe...
        Now no, people have changed. The people have mobilized, people are providing each other with all possible assistance, medical centers have announced free treatment for the victims, etc. People have created a fund to help the victims, where people who are not indifferent themselves transfer money, businessmen, IT specialists and even ... Western countries help. I have never seen such cohesion of Belarusians. This is a phenomenon, this is a miracle.
        And how did the Russians help or help. Except how to send security officials in support of the AHL, more proposals are not heard here. Such a decision would be a disaster for future relations with Russia.
  4. Albert1988
    Albert1988 17 August 2020 22: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    What is our Foreign Ministry doing in general? In addition to concerns, nothing is heard from him. Well, also the fact that there is nothing for our poor people to ride abroad. And where is the result of these non-DBs?

    The Foreign Ministry can hold consultations behind closed doors. Let me remind you that Luka started to call ours actively here just now.
  • Pereira
    Pereira 17 August 2020 20: 08 New
    -1
    And in vain they did not consult. Now the rewards are being reaped.
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  • Sanche
    Sanche 17 August 2020 20: 39 New
    0
    Quote: Dmitry10SPb
    Oh, they will eventually push Belarus into NATO. It would seem, pick up your passing candidate ...

    What to do. Foresight in the Kremlin is a problem
  • alexmach
    alexmach 17 August 2020 21: 19 New
    +6
    It would seem, pick up your passing candidate

    Where? In Belarus, where did Luka mow down all possible candidates?
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 18 August 2020 12: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: alexmach
      In Belarus, where did Luka mow down all possible candidates?

      why everyone? Natsiks, who are now trying to throw him off, he cultivated. and the West is pleased and in the elections it seems that he is not a competitor to Luka, but how did it happen ...
  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 17 August 2020 19: 01 New
    +8
    Quote: snucerist
    Why does Russia need this loser who has lost everything? Which will henceforth be in constant confrontation with its own people?

    Hurry up to kick.
    Confrontation not with the people, confrontation with one of the conflicting parts of this people.
    You do not know the actual ratio of these parts.
  • Albert1988
    Albert1988 17 August 2020 22: 29 New
    0
    Quote: snucerist
    Why does Russia need this loser who has lost everything? Which will henceforth be in constant confrontation with its own people? Who needs this persistent headache?

    The fact of the matter is that no one needs the "dad" anymore, including Russia, the only problem is that Russia does not need Westernizers-Russophobes at the head of Belarus even more ...
    Quote: snucerist
    The question is how to do it elegantly and efficiently?

    Don't you admit that all this talk about changing the constitution in Belarus and the subsequent elections came to the dad's "mind" for a reason?
  • Valter1364
    Valter1364 17 August 2020 23: 02 New
    +4
    He's not a loser! Until a certain moment, Lukashenka did what hardly anyone else would have done better. Russia now needs not Lukashenko, but the land for which the Russian world once laid hundreds of thousands and millions of its bellies. Russia needs a fraternal people, which at one time were torn off alive from Russia.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 17 August 2020 19: 28 New
    +6
    You are wrong. Belarus will not become an agrarian country. It will become the same territory as Ukraine. Land for owners, aborigines under destruction.
  • private person
    private person 17 August 2020 19: 28 New
    +2
    Belarus will become an agrarian country producing technical agricultural crops for biofuel production and a supplier of labor.

    Well, this can still be agreed with a country that produces technical agricultural crops for biofuel production. But that the supplier of labor is in doubt, there are Ukrainians.
  • Vlad.by
    Vlad.by 18 August 2020 00: 22 New
    +2
    On another thread, a number of comments were removed due to "troll chasing." I took the liberty of transferring my thoughts here, the theme is consonant.

    Let's take Ukraine as an example - the last three presidents - Yanukovych, Gunpowder and Zeleny.
    Yanuca was supposedly "bad", very bad, n ". Under him there was corruption, theft, nepotism ... but they did not kill under him.
    Then came the "longed for freedom", the Donbass broke away, put the pots on the head, started jumping, yelling something about some kind of gilyak and ... they started killing. And not only in Donbas.
    Gunpowder was "overthrown", Zelensky came under the cheerful and cheerful promises of the quarter "to end the war", to give decent pensions and work. And what?
    I really don't want such a development of the situation in Belarus.
    But this is exactly what will happen if these pro-Western puppets like Tikhanovskaya will seize power (they do). She herself can be kind, white and fluffy. And promises fair and democratic elections. Then, maybe, perhaps even six months later, probably ... But, the protests gradually turned away from dissatisfaction with the counting of votes at Zhiva Belarus (the slogan of the nationalist party of Zenon Pozdnyak back in early 2000) and there is every reason to wait for chants about Gilyak next. And all the promises of the elections will be until the appearance of the first legalized American adviser. And it will certainly be legalized! Well, then, to the opinions of the PEOPLE, who are not at all a people, the "new government" will already be our FOUNDATION, excuse me!
    I don’t want to!
    RB seems to have only 2, or rather 2,5, path options. Moreover, none of them presupposes the preservation of the country's full sovereignty.
    1. Remain formally "sovereign", but have a puppet government (no matter pro-Russian or pro-Western)
    2. Lie under the East or under the West completely, i.e. become part of another state.
    And here is a fork:
    - the West will devour Belarus without a trace, with a complete loss of identity, most likely through polonization. Russian Latvia (specifically Latgale) is an example of this.
    The purpose of this (and the misfortune of the Belarusians) is a common border with Russia, and for this, it is very tempting for the West to create bases on its territory in order to threaten to break off Russia's hands with missiles in order to transfer control to the West over the Russian market and all mineral resources (well, as in 90 that is, when the fish got off the hook)
    - the east will accept Belarus as a union republic or region.
    It was already in the USSR, the older generation remembers. The Belarusian nation will remain with its language, traditions and mentality.
    There are a lot of examples of this on the territory of modern Russia - Tatarstan, Chechnya, Ossetia, Dagestan, Adygea, Karachay-Cherkessia, etc., etc.

    Lukashenka, as a political figure in any case, played back, he does not have the confidence of the people, and even such a long term in power does not cause anything but irritation. (unlike the same Putin - he at least observes some decency and does not accept the "right" of a lifetime presidency in a referendum). Yes, and his dogs from the plow, with their class hatred for the townspeople, do not cause anything but oncoming hatred. As a result, sooner or later he and his dogs will be put on a stake.
    But how to do so as not to slide into a hole right now, to avoid the destruction of the state, which until recently seemed very stable - this is a question of questions!
    Tikhanovskaya is definitely not an option here. Yes, no one will let her "steer". She is a screen.

    The situation is developing very quickly.
    A couple of days ago, Lukashenko announced an agreement with Putin - Russia confirms allied commitments and guarantees assistance in ensuring the security of the Belarusian state "at the first whistle"

    https://virtualbrest-by.turbopages.org/s/virtualbrest.by/news82097.php?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=mobile

    And since the CEC approved the results of the elections on August 13.08, Russia will help with any attacks on the authorities of the CURRENT, incumbent president.

    So Lukashenka seems to have chosen the first scenario. But it is unlikely that guarantees were given to him just like that, for the next stories about "common trenches" and "under NATO tanks." 100% were formed and voiced specific conditions for further "coexistence". And he accepted them (and where would he go?)
    Naturally, the cunning gypsy hopes that everything will remain "as it was", time will pass, conditions will blabber, everything will be forgotten and he will be happy. But I think and really hope - he is deeply mistaken. It is unlikely that he will continue to be allowed to lash the people with clubs (after all, there was an example of "polite people" - take it and use it) and "steer" the economy without the consent of the appointed controllers.
    I suppose that in the near future, after the situation with protests has settled (a month or two), there will be a strong shakeup of the entire vertical of power in Belarus, with the appearance of figures loyal to the Russian Federation in key positions.
    Rumors about the decision to deploy a Russian air base in Baranovichi also fit well here. Not even three years have passed ... So we are waiting.

    It seems that there are no further prospects for the "independent navigation" of Belarus.
    Only a strong alliance with Russia, even rather a symbiosis, can pull the country out of the protracted crisis. Of course, a single state, truly united, and not some kind of "Union State" existing on paper now - this would be generally an ideal option, but symbiosis is also good.

    I am sure Lukashenka will throw out some kind of trick like solvents to replenish his personal budget. And, in light of non-observance of the sounded conditions, it will be quickly and abruptly removed. Most likely, they will remember all the sins, and they will start with the abuse of people. "Suddenly" facts such as a personality cult, violation of laws and something like that will be revealed, especially since there is such an experience (the same congress of the CPSU on Stalin), and there they will also remember gas feuds, solvents, the Belarusian fruit and fish miracle ...
    If only Russia had enough will to bring the situation to its logical conclusion.

    As for the prospects of Russia itself in the light of the Belarusian troubles - why, do we always pour ashes on our own heads and belittle ourselves?
    In the 90s, they succumbed to the collapse of the strongest country, broke all the nafig, raised a generation of grabbers, thieves, embezzlers in 20 years, although they began to do this since the Khrushchev times, and now we are waiting for Putin's team to fix it all in 10, 20 years with one with a wave of a magic wand ??? Moreover, in the most severe opposition from the West!
    Miracles do not happen - the same USA was built for more than 100 years, Western Europe went to its everyday well-being for at least 40 years after the war, while they were constantly helped by the States (with loans, technologies, people), unlike the USSR (Jackson-Wenig amendment, refusal to loans, constant opposition in economic matters)
    In short, it will not be easy and not quick to build a new Russia or a new Union like the USSR.

    RB had a chance after the collapse of the Union to become something like Sweden or Finland. But Kebichi, Chigiri and Lukashenki successfully deferred it. And now there are no resources, the people are corrupted by "Western values", they want to work not in production, but to buy and sell, and it is better not to work at all - over there in Germany, benefits are distributed to anyone ...
    They just love to "drown for the people's will and freedom." And few people think
    what will this freedom be based on?
    Indeed, according to the classics - Being determines consciousness.
    Now the task of the future symbiosis is to stop the tail that twirls the dog and arranges many thousands of walks with greasy cloths and to calm down the protesters, who did not understand that they are planning to make them cannon fodder again, use their voices, blood, and, possibly, and life to achieve one goal - to get to the lever of resource allocation, that is, dough. Then in any case they will be thrown, they, in any case, will remember the quiet times "under Luke" as manna from heaven. But it will be too late. To return back with little blood will not work. Those who teach to shout Zhiva Belarus will not give anything up without blood.

    Something like this.
  • shed
    shed 17 August 2020 18: 26 New
    -8
    can call Khodorkovsky or Navalny, etc. you have a lot of sh * t there, are you not from this team?
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 17 August 2020 18: 32 New
      +6
      Call your homies bulk Khodorkovsky and other woodpeckers.
      We do not impose our opinion on you.
      Connect with your influencers.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 17 August 2020 18: 42 New
    +1
    Surely he made such a decision after calling Putin! Although, this is so far the only option without bloodshed to solve the problem with the power in the republic that has arisen in Belarus.
    1. loki565
      loki565 17 August 2020 18: 55 New
      +1
      As a variant of the norms, it will calm down people and prepare the ground for a REAL union state. Only this obviously will not please the foreign curators of the Maidan and they will continue to undermine the situation.
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 17 August 2020 19: 55 New
        +2
        The question is not what will be shaken.
        They will loosen.
        They have been trying to shatter Russia for a long time, but so far they only get a hernia in the form of their own internal problems.
        The question is whether the current government will have enough will to resist this and be wise to heed the advice that Russia will give them.
  • Same lech
    Same lech 17 August 2020 18: 00 New
    14
    Today is Lukashenka's day ... which is already an article dedicated to him. smile
    I wonder who organized the strikes at enterprises ... names, surnames, positions on the table.
    Lukashenka for good not hard workers should be threatened and deal with those who mess with them ... Lukashenka is one step behind his opponents.
    1. snucerist
      snucerist 17 August 2020 18: 05 New
      -11
      It's time for Lukashenka to think about where to take his fishing rods.
      If it is not possible to agree with the new president, dad will have a decent time, up to ...
      There are so many sins for my father that it will not seem a little. And surely some of them are documented. Their own.
      And they will hand over their own first, they always hand over first.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 17 August 2020 18: 20 New
        +1
        There are so many sins for my father that it will not seem a little.

        Well, list his sins ... what only in fact and not sucked out of the finger.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 17 August 2020 18: 30 New
          +2
          As I see there are no arguments ... smile respected.
        2. snucerist
          snucerist 17 August 2020 18: 40 New
          -9
          For a start, try to understand the meaning of my comment.
          And then they demand from me information that Lukashenka's special services, completely controlled by him, keep with seven seals. The KGB, police, courts, prosecutors are absolutely under the control of Lukashenka. And, eu-but, he believes that the tails are cleaned up.
          But there is nothing secret that will not be revealed. Sooner or later. When they give up their own. Then the details will emerge, which are now carefully hushed up.
          Be patient.
          All in good time.
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 17 August 2020 19: 01 New
            -2
            And then demand from me the information that Lukashenka's special services keep seven seals,

            You don't have any proofs ... ah ah ah ... such a bummer ... you can't even concoct anything for him ... and this is called opposition. No.
            Navalny even filmed the royal mansions from a drone ... and you don't even have that ... I'm disappointed.
        3. Dmitry10SPb
          Dmitry10SPb 17 August 2020 21: 20 New
          +3
          To begin with, there seems to be an article for the seizure and retention of power. If people died, then the firing squad.
    2. Alkonavt
      Alkonavt 17 August 2020 18: 23 New
      +6
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Today is Lukashenka's day ... which is already an article dedicated to him.

      There are not so many articles today negative .. These articles, another 3-4 years are anti-Belarusian.!
      And the number of comments went off scale .. And try to stand up for the Old Man, immediately the crowd kicked and banned ..
      Look at the archives of the site, there is not a day about Lukashenka and the headlines of articles, that you can not read further op was for 300-400 comments .. hi
      That's the result, guys! It will be good if they settle this situation, if Belarus turns into the Bandera Outskirts .. So you got it out (many here, before the Maidan) ..
      Next Russia? And, "gentlemen" are entrenched here? Are you glad to admit it?
      We are glad of course ..
      PS Great job .. Soon it will start at the swamp .. Eh you!
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 17 August 2020 18: 26 New
        +2
        And try to stand up for Old Man, immediately the crowd kicked and banned ..

        I am an opponent to hang all the dogs on Lukashenka ... if for the cause, then yes, he should be criticized so that Napoleon does not imagine himself ... and if, as the opposition and the agents of the West sitting on the forum do, then I am against it.
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          1. Kisa
            Kisa 17 August 2020 19: 30 New
            +3
            Alkanaut well, if they call black here white, that the strikes are not real, that they beat for the cause, that the rallies are few in number and there are zaslanets with training manuals ... we run away from reality ... and then we throw up our hands again - the last republic is gone.
            Nuu it is impossible now to associate the Kremlin with a cockroach nuuu they hate him there after 3 days of terror. Tikhanovskaya is a buffer - you need to raise your candidate as soon as possible. so far not everything is poisoned
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 17 August 2020 19: 59 New
        +4
        Quote: Alkonavt
        .. These articles, another 3-4 years are anti-Belarusian.!
        And the number of comments went off scale .. And try to stand up for the Old Man, immediately the crowd kicked and banned ..

        Vitala, I stood up for him dozens of times. Tired when I saw that the Malyuta Skuratovs were doing it.
      3. Terrible GMO
        Terrible GMO 17 August 2020 23: 35 New
        -2
        Quote: Alkonavt
        .And try to stand up for Old Man, immediately the crowd kicked and banned ..

        Something in practice is the opposite.
    3. dSK
      dSK 17 August 2020 18: 41 New
      +5
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      tackle those who mess with them ... Lukashenka is one step behind his opponents.

      If the Arab League does not cleanse Makei and "their ilk", they will cleanse him.
    4. Sanche
      Sanche 17 August 2020 20: 42 New
      -1
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Lukashenka for good not hard workers should be threatened and deal with those who mess with them ... Lukashenka is one step behind his opponents.

      It's easy to say, find troublemakers, if every second is a troublemaker
    5. My doctor
      My doctor 17 August 2020 22: 02 New
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I wonder who organized the strikes at enterprises ... names, surnames, positions on the table.
      Lukashenka should be threatened for good, not hard workers, but to deal with those who mess with them ...

      We did not go on strike, last Wednesday a couple of active people drew up a paper, those who didn’t go on strike and signed. The police colonel arrived, first we listened to him, then we spoke ourselves. Everything was happening as correctly as possible. Only the colonel was infuriated by the smile on the faces of the people at his words. In response, he said, "You all decided everything a long time ago."
      1. tank64rus
        tank64rus 19 August 2020 17: 46 New
        0
        When you are thrown out into the street and you go again and ask your mother for money so that she gives a little of her pension in order to stretch out a little more, and your wife meets you at home, who will ask when your honestly earned money will be given to you, and two girls, whom need to be fed. I went through this in the 90s. I will never forget and will never forgive those who grabbed Russia. The same is waiting for you. You can smile.
    6. Campanella
      Campanella 18 August 2020 00: 24 New
      -1
      You will lag behind when the West gave the command to the dogs of the opposition!
      These jackals realized that the coronavirus gave a good opportunity to bring down Luka. So they let the dogs off their chains, they say, how bad everything has become in Belarus, everything has risen in price, oil prices and so on are growing ... And of course, Lukashenka did not provide the people with freebies!
  • Shilka
    Shilka 17 August 2020 18: 02 New
    +9
    Dad would have to bite his tongue and work actively with Russia to calm down the people .. And he again climbs in the morning!
    This is how it happens when pride climbs .. It's a pity for the people, ordinary Belarusians. They will suffer. And the bawlers will come off and run away
    1. bondrostov
      bondrostov 17 August 2020 18: 11 New
      10
      It's a pity, but this is the end of it. I’m not sorry for him, but for the Belarusians and for us, because we, etc., slept and Belarus now. Even in this situation, there is nothing that is not tanks, not an army, even if we want to do nothing. All against him, once the proletariat began to organize strikes, it means that he really got everyone, that's why I say this is the end. Unfortunately, our sworn friends will naturally use the fruits of all this.
      1. shed
        shed 17 August 2020 18: 28 New
        -6
        why did he get you so poor fellow. you rubish for this loot
      2. hroft
        hroft 17 August 2020 18: 50 New
        +4
        Did you oversleep Belarus? What were we supposed to do? To issue even more irrecoverable loans? Who is to blame that since 2014 Lukashenko has clearly begun to drift to the West and blackmail Russia, he strangled all pro-Russian sentiments in the country. Russia needs Belarus without Lukashenko, like the West, he completely discredited himself, so the whole struggle for Belarus is still ahead
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      4. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 17 August 2020 21: 24 New
        +3
        Quote: bondrostov
        All against him once the proletariat began to organize strikes

        The proletariat once applauded Mikhail Gorbachev .... Hooray!
        Restructuring! Freedom! They elected deputies from among the workers ... They applauded before and were elected before the collapse of the USSR! The worker always hates his employer. axiom. That is why the revolutionary class ...
    2. Sanche
      Sanche 17 August 2020 20: 43 New
      -1
      Quote: Shilka
      This is how it happens when pride climbs

      This is not pride. This lack of gray matter
  • dzvero
    dzvero 17 August 2020 18: 04 New
    +6
    So a loophole from the situation was found ... A very real solution. In general, the deferral of a year is at least two. Therefore, they will not appreciate it and raise a howl again.
  • V1er
    V1er 17 August 2020 18: 08 New
    +9
    As much as I am against all these Maidans (you can read my previous comments), but when I watched Lukashenka's new speeches, this is some kind of Spanish shame ... Forgive me. You can minus. It is difficult to agitate for someone who is digging a hole for himself. sad He needs a good PR man and texts to be written by professionals.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 17 August 2020 18: 11 New
      10
      He needs a good PR man and texts to be written by professionals.

      He needs to be cracked in the forehead so that this simple thought reaches him ... a collective farmer is stuck in the last century.
      1. major147
        major147 17 August 2020 18: 47 New
        +4
        Quote: The same Lech
        He needs a good PR man and texts to be written by professionals.

        He needs to be cracked in the forehead so that this simple thought reaches him ... a collective farmer is stuck in the last century.

        "It's too late to drink on a barge", you need to get out of this situation. Who is the author of the situation, you can see with the naked eye. Old Man needs to bring down the heat of passions for a worthy exit himself and acceptable for the Union State. At the same time, a bloody provocation by Westerners with the aim of transferring "peaceful processions" into an acute phase of clashes with the subsequent appearance of a new "heavenly hundred" should not be allowed.
        1. Terrible GMO
          Terrible GMO 17 August 2020 23: 41 New
          -3
          Quote: major147
          At the same time, a bloody provocation by the Westernizers with the aim of transferring the "peaceful processions" into an acute phase of clashes with the subsequent appearance of a new "Heavenly Hundred" should not be allowed.

          Thanks, already arranged. Lukashenka's hand guard. With such beatings and the scale of violence and torture, there are clearly dozens of deaths. Even if the doctors are not allowed in.
          1. Campanella
            Campanella 18 August 2020 00: 36 New
            0
            The provocation was a success, the dad bought it!
            Although I can say for sure that if he did not even begin to extinguish this wave of oppositional bulk of Western dogs, they would say “So many people peacefully turned out against him, it means he lost the elections and would also demand new elections, heating up the situation.
            For good reason, he had to immediately shut up this Polish channel before the elections and restrict entry into the country dolbo..v.
          2. major147
            major147 18 August 2020 10: 25 New
            +1
            Quote: TerribleGMO
            there are clearly dozens of dead

            Please, specifically the full name of "dozens of those killed", a source of information. Take responsibility for your words ...
    2. military_cat
      military_cat 17 August 2020 18: 22 New
      +8
      Quote: V1er
      watched Lukashenka's new speeches, this is some kind of Spanish shame
      Bulbofuehrer was always like that, with a cuckoo that had moved out, that was part of his collective farm charm.
    3. Polymer
      Polymer 17 August 2020 18: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: V1er
      He needs a good PR man and texts to be written by professionals.

      Should he just become an actor? For me, it's better to be tongue-tied, but real than the performer of scripts written by someone.
    4. Sanche
      Sanche 17 August 2020 20: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: V1er
      He needs a good PR man and texts to be written by professionals.

      He does not listen to anyone and considers himself the smartest and most irreplaceable. Don't you get it?
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 17 August 2020 23: 39 New
        0
        Quote: Sanche
        He does not listen to anyone and considers himself the smartest and most irreplaceable. Don't you get it?

        I agree. Putin knows how to listen. And even, sometimes he shows his lack of awareness.
    5. mikhailovich22
      mikhailovich22 17 August 2020 22: 16 New
      0
      Quote: V1er
      He needs a good PR man and texts to be written by professionals.

      So all the professionals fled from him, only the Eismans were left.
    6. Terrible GMO
      Terrible GMO 17 August 2020 23: 39 New
      0
      Quote: V1er
      He needs a good PR man and texts to be written by professionals.

      They write to him. But he loses his temper for any reason and begins to pretend to be a "father of the nation" and a jack of all trades.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 17 August 2020 18: 09 New
    +4
    Elections, elections are all candidates ..... by the way, where are all the candidates?
    If dad spoke like that, he can pack his suitcases ... very soon that one, there ... but where, where did he manage to spread straws? Somehow nobody talked about it.
    1. major147
      major147 17 August 2020 18: 50 New
      +6
      Quote: rocket757
      By the way, where are all the candidates?

      One from Lithuania grunts from someone else's voice, another from the outskirts announces an upcoming online meeting with curators from the United States.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 August 2020 19: 17 New
        +4
        In general, the choice is not great. But at the moment the theme "tired" has played, and the main former candidate has spoiled his reputation in all directions.
        1. major147
          major147 17 August 2020 19: 26 New
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          In general, the choice is not great. But at the moment the theme "tired" has played, and the main former candidate has spoiled his reputation in all directions.

          No dispute! But it is necessary to get out of the situation with the least losses for the Union State. There is no AHL, there is not even that semblance of "Cr" that was, but will be "Ukraine 2.0"
          "Belarusians are offered to overthrow Alexander Lukashenko in the political sphere by 2021 already:

          1. withdrawal from the Union State, the Eurasian Union, the Customs Union and other integration entities dominated by Russia;
          2. banning pro-Russian organizations whose activities are contrary to national interests, as well as Russian funds and organizations that finance such structures;
          3. introduction of criminal liability for public statements that challenge the existence of a separate Belarusian nation and / or its historical right to its own state. Introduction of criminal liability for public insults of the Belarusian language;
          4. monitoring by civil society of the activities of pro-Kremlin initiatives in Belarus;
          5. implementation of border and customs control on the border with Russia.
          In the economic sphere, it is proposed to ban the sale of Belarusian infrastructure facilities to Russian companies.
          In addition, in the information sphere, according to nationalists, it is necessary:
          1. to prohibit the broadcasting of journalistic, socio-political and news programs created by Russian TV channels in Belarus;
          2. to include compulsory public TV channels in Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Ukraine in the standard TV package.
          In addition, a complete break with Russia is assumed in the military sphere:
          1. withdrawal from the CSTO, the return of full control by Belarus of its air and anti-missile defense systems;
          2. withdrawal of Russian military facilities from the territory of the republic;
          3. strengthening of patriotic education in the Belarusian army;
          4. translation of educational work in the army into Belarusian;
          5. development of border infrastructure on the border with EU countries, increasing the capacity of border crossings.
          Long-term goals at all indicate that Belarus should have practically no ties with Russia and a common cultural and historical heritage:
          1. creation of a cross-cutting education system in the Belarusian language from kindergartens to universities;
          2. restoration of the Belarusian Autocephalous Orthodox Church as a national alternative to the Belarusian Exarchate of the Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate;
          3. fulfillment by Belarus of all criteria for membership in the European Union and NATO, submission of relevant applications for membership in these structures. "
          Read more: zabelarus.com
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 17 August 2020 20: 03 New
            +1
            Standard set .... forward to the gay European "paradise"!
      2. GRIGORIY76
        GRIGORIY76 17 August 2020 20: 31 New
        +2
        Another 2 are in prison ... it's better in Ukraine and Lithuania than in prison.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 17 August 2020 21: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: GRIGORIY76
          Another 2 are in prison ... it's better in Ukraine and Lithuania than in prison.

          The mustachioed PRESIDENT was a big deal both in his own country and outside, or even spoiled.
          There is no disposition towards him, although I understand that now it can become very worse.
    2. Sanche
      Sanche 17 August 2020 20: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Elections, elections are all candidates ..... by the way, where are all the candidates?

      As where? Where always. Some are in jail, and others are hiding from jail. Unfortunately, there are no other options for strong candidates
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 August 2020 21: 10 New
        +3
        I can’t imagine how our people are going to work with him ... it’s wiser to press it down immediately, to the delight of the majority.
        Although, this is also a bad option.
        1. Campanella
          Campanella 18 August 2020 00: 40 New
          +1
          You should have left Shushkevich. Then there would be no problems)))
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 18 August 2020 06: 37 New
            0
            Who is it for you?
            Then, to suffer about the past is useless, you have to go forward, only the path is worth choosing to create, a mess, ruin, brings joy to few people.
            1. Campanella
              Campanella 18 August 2020 10: 20 New
              0
              If people do not see the difference, if they have a short memory, if they recall their freedom in crises, is it worth grieving about such people?
              We have a similar situation.
              People do not want to understand the world in which they live, they have no time.
              And then they will be outraged about how bad everything is and what the PZ has brought the country to.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 18 August 2020 10: 35 New
                0
                We, of course, are stronger, bigger, more inert ... but this is also not forever. Everything has a limit.
                PZh is worth REMEMBERING!
  • Vita vko
    Vita vko 17 August 2020 18: 09 New
    +7
    In principle, a good exchange of the crisis of power for a new Constitution. But after he called people "
    subjects of economic relations
    “ignoring the definition of the Constitution” Article 3. The people are the only source of state power and the bearer of sovereignty in the Republic of Belarus.
    Ideally, the solution may be to consolidate allied relations with the Russian Federation in the new Constitution. This can be a worthy response to the provocations of the West.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 17 August 2020 18: 13 New
      +1
      Lukashenka has no chances and he urgently needs to look for a receiver so as not to go to prison or be shot.

      He still has chances ... no need to deliberately exaggerate ...
      1. leks
        leks 17 August 2020 18: 20 New
        +3
        He has chances, but given that he had protest actions from election to election, and now popular protests have begun, then he has the last term, if he keeps it, of course. AHL for good it was still 2015 to look for a receiver. But he decided to play the role of the immortal and irreplaceable leader of the nation, so he played before.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 17 August 2020 18: 28 New
          -6
          and now popular protests have begun,

          There are no popular protests ... that you are pulling an owl on the globe.
          I see clearly organized actions paid for by Poland and other interested countries ... what we are shown is just a performance ... extras ... sometimes paid extras.
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 17 August 2020 18: 36 New
            -6
            Hit the spot ... judging by the minus. smile
            1. Campanella
              Campanella 18 August 2020 00: 43 New
              0
              I got to the point, the advocates of freedom of speech do not like the truth of the womb. Pro-Western ghouls bypass, even here they shit in Russia.
              Can you imagine how much shit they will cook by 2024?
          2. leks
            leks 17 August 2020 18: 49 New
            +1
            Of course, who would have doubted that the neighbors are sticking their noses in Belarus.
            Only now, who brought the situation to the boiling point or AHL?
            I understand if it was shown on the BBC, but these so-called extras of yours are shown on all federal channels.
            1. Campanella
              Campanella 18 August 2020 00: 46 New
              -2
              They are all so smart from the outside!
              Ay, guys, do you always control everything in your family?
          3. Vita vko
            Vita vko 17 August 2020 18: 50 New
            +5
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            what we are shown is just a performance ... extras ... sometimes paid extras

            With such massive "payments", the leak of information about the organizers and the source is inevitable and should have been revealed by the KGB at the planning stage, "you can't hide it in a bag." Although, judging by the actions of Lukashenka himself against 33 Russian citizens and subsequent provocations with media representatives, in which he successfully got stuck by the special services of Belarus and the local system of countering external information-psychological operations is absolutely incapable.
        2. major147
          major147 17 August 2020 18: 56 New
          +5
          Quote: leks
          Now popular protests have begun, then this term is his last, if he holds it, of course.

          How long can such protests last? Well, a month, well, three ... If the curators do not see the progress they need, funding will stop. The same song with strikes. The West has only one way out, to transfer everything into an "acute phase" with victims, so as to cut off the path of the AHL to a peaceful resolution of the conflict.
          1. leks
            leks 17 August 2020 19: 08 New
            -1
            Well, funding will stop and that, they will wait for the next, and then they will swing to the fullest.
            In Ukraine, it did not work out the first time, it will also come out with RB.
            There you think the first elections are like that, there were protests every election, only there weren't such massive ones.
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 17 August 2020 20: 06 New
            +3
            Quote: major147
            If the curators do not see the progress they need, funding will stop

            No need to be so naive ... for "curators" such expenses are not even dust, so spit on the asphalt.
            It will continue to the bitter end .... and they will succeed if one of our top ones decides that they will SEPARATE!
  • Egoza
    Egoza 17 August 2020 18: 12 New
    +6
    "When you were born, you cried, and the world smiled. Live your life so that when you die, you smile, and the world cries" Eh! Did Lukashenka fail, does he understand what he says? “You need to think not with your iPhone, but with your brains” is a wonderful slogan. Now, if I applied the second to myself, then the first would also come true!
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 17 August 2020 20: 14 New
      +3
      You can put an end to the dad, he did not dadavid some, but others who somehow believed him, seems to be going to betray !!!
      We have Stalin, he was a serious man, but in the end he FUCKED !!! he did not leave a worthy successor behind him.
      That's what absolute power does with such!
  • certero
    certero 17 August 2020 18: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: Vita VKO
    Lukashenka does not have and he urgently needs to look for a receiver so as not to go to prison or be shot.

    So far, all the authorities and security officials support Lukashenka.
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 17 August 2020 18: 19 New
    0
    Here, too, many people think of iPhones and the Internet, so Belarus is Belarus, and 2024 is also just around the corner, and so that some "Tikhanovskaya" does not creep out in Russia either, you need to think about how to intelligently transit power ...
    1. leks
      leks 17 August 2020 18: 55 New
      +2
      Don't worry, those in power will decide everything for us how to carry out the transit of power. Most likely, the PVV will remain, and the next elections will be replaced.
  • Glenni
    Glenni 17 August 2020 18: 19 New
    +1
    The Constitution can be adopted and a referendum can be held with the new president, what are the problems?
    1. shed
      shed 17 August 2020 18: 33 New
      -1
      what constitution what referendum with what new president, you liked this woman with one gyrus, you have a very bad taste
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 17 August 2020 23: 05 New
      +1
      The Belarusian opposition, as far as I know, to a large extent advocates the reduction of the presidential prerogatives. And some oppositionists generally advocate the transformation of Belarus into a parliamentary republic, where the number one will be the prime minister responsible to parliament.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 17 August 2020 18: 21 New
    -5
    It is clear that Belarus is our FSE. But somewhere on another planet, in some kind of Bashkiria. August 17th.
    https://youtu.be/DRn8WM4k6W4
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 17 August 2020 18: 47 New
      +1
      So what? About a hundred "environmentalists" and activists who want to ditch the whole city of Starlitamak.
      Even the previous governor rigidly divided all the shihans which can be produced and which cannot.
      And what kind of "ecologists" we have under the roof of Greenpeace and WWF are jumping, we know that we have lost more than 500 thousand jobs from them and the development of our own industry has been hindered.
      Waste in Usolye does not bother them for some reason.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 17 August 2020 19: 07 New
        0
        Waste in Usolye does not bother them for some reason.

        The combined detachment of the Russian Ministry of Defense monitored the chemical situation in Usolye-Sibirskoye. The military took air samples within the city, these are sleeping areas and busy streets, as well as soil and water in a local reservoir. Checked for the presence of mercury vapors and emergency chemical hazardous substances.

        Units of the Ministry of Defense arrived there on behalf of the President, reminds the TV channel "Russia 24". According to the head of state, for a long time, environmental problems in the region, which appeared due to the largest chemical plant, were hushed up.
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 17 August 2020 19: 25 New
          +1
          So "ecologists" were not interested in this for years
      2. leks
        leks 17 August 2020 19: 22 New
        +5
        Several hundred you yourself saw or how.
        Several thousand came out there, there were not only ecologists but also ordinary citizens.
        There is no such city Starlitamak is the city of Sterlitamak.
        The last chapter shared a lot of things here so as not to grieve. I remember under him Kronospan in Ufa decided to build the people opposed the construction, never once did this head come to a meeting with the activists. As a result, it was built, the people in these microdistricts are now breathing the exhaust of this "environmentally friendly plant".
  • lexa333
    lexa333 17 August 2020 18: 22 New
    0
    It’s a pity. Welcome to us in Central Europe.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 17 August 2020 18: 22 New
    +1
    Lukashenka begins to probe options ... laughing Rostov-on-Don clearly does not suit him ... negative He aims at least at Barvikha bully

    And as for me, and honestly ... The man played in "Father" ... he does not see the edges ... even Russia accuses of all mortal sins ...

    I would not put the electoral competitors ... I would receive my honest 51 percent and remain the President ... But no, after all ... "I want to become the Owner of the sea and that the goldfish itself would be in servants" bully

    and now ... he will receive everything he deserves for this not at all sinless life !!! good
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 18 August 2020 00: 51 New
      0
      Yanukovych has a dacha in Barvikha, so you know.)
  • Arthur 85
    Arthur 85 17 August 2020 18: 22 New
    0
    Kiev can go ... Their opinion is not interesting to anyone, and it is not, there is the opinion of Washington. And the present generation is not accustomed to thinking with brains.
  • Xenofont
    Xenofont 17 August 2020 18: 25 New
    +7
    Look how it sounded: - "Who is on us with Putin"? But what about the Russian non-brothers? Where has the "main threat" gone? Has it absorbed? There are kakly- "brothers", the ambassador has already been recalled, they are in the trend: soak-so soak "brother".
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 18 August 2020 00: 53 New
      0
      And he helped these Bandera supporters ...
      Now he regrets that he was tolerant of Svidomo Kiev.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 17 August 2020 18: 27 New
    +5
    Quote: rocket757
    Elections, elections are all candidates ..... by the way, where are all the candidates?
    If dad spoke like that, he can pack his suitcases ... very soon that one, there ... but where, where did he manage to spread straws? Somehow nobody talked about it.

    If you do not know, the candidates are either already in prison or are on the wanted list hi
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 17 August 2020 18: 29 New
    -4
    Quote: taiga2018
    Here, too, many people think of iPhones and the Internet, so Belarus is Belarus, and 2024 is also just around the corner, and so that some "Tikhanovskaya" does not creep out in Russia either, you need to think about how to intelligently transit power ...

    It's too late to drink Borjomi when the liver has already sat down wassat
    Sobyanin has already managed to do this with the crown in six months, God forbid)))
    You can safely delete it from the participants in the "transit of power" crying
    1. major147
      major147 17 August 2020 19: 08 New
      -2
      Quote: Corona without virus
      Sobyanin has already managed to do this with the crown in six months, God forbid)))

      By the way, among other things, Old Man is accused of not “doing” all this.
  • Federal1
    Federal1 17 August 2020 18: 31 New
    -1
    A parasite and a parasite ... it's time for the dustbin of history. V. Zhirinovsky as always to the point.
  • Lumpen
    Lumpen 17 August 2020 18: 31 New
    +2
    He now needs to "negotiate" security guarantees from the strike committees, announce re-elections and resign until the next elections. Maybe later the Belarusians will call "Father" to the kingdom, now no
    1. Xenofont
      Xenofont 17 August 2020 19: 15 New
      +1
      Oh, they won't call! All these post-Soviet independents are strictly: what has fallen from the cart is gone.
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 17 August 2020 19: 29 New
      0
      Now, it is better for him to go on a friendly visit ... to Vietnam, for example ... or on vacation ... Having officially announced ... I'm leaving, but I'll be back ... smile
      1. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 17 August 2020 19: 47 New
        0
        Quote: parusnik
        For him now, it is better to go on a friendly visit .. to Vietnam for example ... or on vacation .. Having officially announced .. I am leaving, but I will be back.

        This is a bad option, they may miss the situation and will not be allowed back, and the people will say: Struck, we will hold new elections, the president has run away.
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 17 August 2020 18: 32 New
    -1
    I should have added: dream, dream.
  • impostor
    impostor 17 August 2020 18: 33 New
    +4
    If a few hours ago Lukashenka announced that the choice had been made and there would be no re-elections in the Republic of Belarus, now he is playing back to a certain extent.

    ... And the weaver with the cook and the banker Babariko want to LEARN him: "Suitcase, station, Constantinople" ...
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 17 August 2020 18: 45 New
      +4
      The day before yesterday I read to the children laughing
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 17 August 2020 18: 35 New
    +1
    If a few hours ago Lukashenka announced that the choice had been made and there would be no re-elections in the Republic of Belarus, now he is playing back to a certain extent.

    Well, here the "unbending" Luka begins to bend. Will try to bargain for itself "retreat to prepared positions" wink
    You need to think not with your iPhone, but with your brains.

    Look who's Talking laughing laughing
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 17 August 2020 18: 44 New
    +4
    Quote: The same Lech
    and now popular protests have begun,

    There are no popular protests ... that you are pulling an owl on the globe.
    I see clearly organized actions paid for by Poland and other interested countries ... what we are shown is just a performance ... extras ... sometimes paid extras.

    I got sick of asking ... but I'll ask again ... laughing
    How much did my sister's husband and his children get paid and who, since they are against Lukashenka ?! am
    And then my sister (who "drowns" for Lukashenka) thinks that it is they themselves, of their own free will, against the dictator, go out into the street ... sad
    And she doesn't have enough meat on the table ... so how much money did her men spend ?! And then they "whine" that there is not enough meat on the table ... bully So how much should I give to my sister, how much money from her own husbands from the West have stolen from her ?! hi
    1. major147
      major147 17 August 2020 19: 20 New
      +4
      Quote: Corona without virus
      thinks that it is they themselves, of their own free will, against the dictator, go into the street ...

      So they wrote to her in her smartphone that it was she herself, a free woman who chooses "the best life" for the country.
      This is exactly what my sister and nieces were told in Kiev at one time. They called to overthrow the "bloody Yanyk" so that pensioners would receive a decent pension, so that the police would not beat people, in general, for all the good versus all the bad.
      As a result, one of the nieces left for Germany, the second is looking for any job, although she is a designer by profession, and her sister, a retired woman, is leaving for her daughter in Germany for the winter. unable to pay for the communal apartment.
      It was okay to hold a rally!
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 17 August 2020 19: 56 New
        0
        Quote: major147
        This is exactly what my sister and nieces were told in Kiev at one time. They called to overthrow the "bloody Yanyk" so that pensioners would receive a decent pension, so that the police would not beat people, in general, for all the good versus all the bad.
        As a result, one of the nieces left for Germany, the second is looking for any job, although she is a designer by profession, and her sister, a retired woman, is leaving for her daughter in Germany for the winter. unable to pay for the communal apartment.
        It was okay to celebrate like this

        Yes, "young revolutionaries" do not want to think about it. They are young, they have everything ahead of them, they are generally children. request
  • Operator
    Operator 17 August 2020 18: 49 New
    0
    Lukashenko needs to initiate as soon as possible the convocation of the State Council of the Union State (consisting of two presidents, two prime ministers, two chairmen of the upper chambers of parliaments and two chairmen of the lower chambers of parliaments) and decide on the entry of Belarus into the Russian Federation.

    In place of the head of the administration of the new subject of the federation, the President of Russia will appoint an acting person until the elections, and all government and military officials of the Republic of Belarus will retain their positions with an increase in salary to the Russian level (as well as employees of budgetary enterprises and institutions).

    Belarusian automobile and tractor builders, agricultural producers and oil refiners will have direct access to the Russian market, workers - Russian salaries, pensioners - Russian pensions.

    Otherwise, the Nazi Belarusian National Defense (an analogue of the Outskirts of Bandera), created in 1943 on the territory of the BSSR occupied by the Germans, will win in Belarus.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 17 August 2020 18: 55 New
    +3
    Elderberry in the garden, daddy in Minsk ... Lukashenko smile He'd better suggest playing "fish" ... Fish are silent .. smile
  • Klingon
    Klingon 17 August 2020 19: 19 New
    +1
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: snucerist
    Why does Russia need this loser who has lost everything?

    For now, at least in order to prevent Tikhonovskaya ...

    yes, right, to prevent Tikhanovskaya and her blonde girlfriend with a great German accent drinks
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  • Clueless
    Clueless 17 August 2020 19: 20 New
    +5
    Strange .. but where is the video in which he threatened the employee? ;)
    Honestly, I'm already tired of this fool, the same thing - there are enemies all around and blah blah .. for a quarter of a century, twist one and the same hurdy-gurdy, given that people know what is abroad.
    1. Terrible GMO
      Terrible GMO 18 August 2020 00: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: Bad
      Strange .. but where is the video in which he threatened the employee? ;)

      Since no one else did, I will post.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmmDnu4nQf4
      Isn't that? There is also a demand to remove the phone.
      And the guy has already been arrested. How typical.
  • smart fellow
    smart fellow 17 August 2020 19: 21 New
    -3
    A.G. Lukashenko did not sell Belaruskali, MZKT, MTZ, etc. It's stupid of him. He also bragged about it. Otherwise, he would privatize and let the workers go on strike at private enterprises. They would be reduced and there would be no longer workers, but unemployed. Would you block the routes? Well, here he would, like a good tsar, poke at the capitalists and scatter the money received from taxes on enterprises. And the hard workers would have no time for politics, one thought how to survive if they were left without work.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 17 August 2020 19: 22 New
    -2
    How the direct participants in the conflict began to fuss, and our guarantor is silent! But in fact, it was necessary to dip them warm in the manure, because they caught them right on the hot one! EU and Ukraine immediately begin to portray peacekeepers
  • dima-tut
    dima-tut 17 August 2020 19: 30 New
    +2
    Russians, take it for yourself.
    1. Sanche
      Sanche 17 August 2020 20: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: dima-tut
      Russians, take it for yourself.

      Belarusians will also pay extra
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 17 August 2020 19: 33 New
    -1
    Quote: major147
    Quote: Corona without virus
    Sobyanin has already managed to do this with the crown in six months, God forbid)))

    By the way, among other things, Old Man is accused of not “doing” all this.

    Here I will like Lukashenka that he did not do everything that Sobyanin did in Moscow good
  • 1536
    1536 17 August 2020 19: 43 New
    -1
    So what about the candidates for the presidency of Belarus, focused on an alliance with Russia? There are no them, so you must understand? So far, everything looks like a complete defeat and collapse of all politics in the post-Soviet space. And it’s okay if no one was involved in the CIS or the union state, and then after all, entire state structures were sitting on this. It is like the first months of the Great Patriotic War, when demoralized soldiers and commanders surrendered to the Germans in battalions. And then there was the order "Not one step back." But there was someone to give it to. And everything went fine.
  • iouris
    iouris 17 August 2020 19: 49 New
    -1
    "Elections, elections ..." (Cord)
    Lukashenka, as always, is right, but everything will be as always: "at the end of the road, you will have to pay off." In general, citizens have arrived. Moses was tired of leading his citizens through the wilderness. Now: by yourself.
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    2. alien
      alien 17 August 2020 20: 29 New
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      Quote: iouris
      In general, citizens have arrived.

      GROVE AND FIRE (Lukashenka and the West)

      In winter, the Light smoldered under the Grove;
      As you can see, here he was forgotten by the road.
      Hour by hour the Fire grew weaker;
      No new firewood; My fire burns a little
      And, seeing its end, so the Grove says:
      “Tell me, dear Grove!
      Why is your lot so cruel
      That you can't see a single leaf
      And are you completely naked? " -
      “Then what, all in the snow,
      In winter, I can neither turn green, nor bloom, "
      This is how Grove responds to fire.
      "Trifle!" The fire continues to her:
      «Just make friends with me; I'll help you.
      I am a brother of the suns, and sometimes in winter
      I build miracles no less than the sun.
      Ask about Fire in greenhouses:
      In winter, when all around and snow and blizzard blows,
      Everything is there either blooming or maturing:
      And thank you for everything.
      Praising yourself at least does not fit,
      And I don't like boasting
      But I will in no way yield to the sun.
      No matter how arrogantly it shone here,
      But without harm to the snow, I went down to sleep;
      And near me, watch the snow melt
      So if you want to turn green in winter,
      As in summer and spring,
      Give me a corner! "

      Here is the deal: already in the Grove of Ogonyok
      Becomes Fire, Fire does not sleep:
      Runs along the branches, along the knots;
      Black smoke rushes to the clouds in clubs
      And the fierce flame suddenly embraces the whole Grove.
      Everything was completely lost - and where in the sultry days
      A passerby took refuge in the shadows
      Only burnt hemp stands alone
      And there is nothing to wonder:
      How can a tree be friends with fire?

      The reason for the creation of the fable was the news of the upcoming meeting of Alexander I with Napoleon in Erfurt (September-October 1808). Russian society condemned Alexander I for this, while the emperor considered it necessary to keep peace with France.

      I.A. Krylov
    3. Sanche
      Sanche 17 August 2020 20: 56 New
      0
      Quote: iouris
      Moses was tired of leading his citizens through the wilderness.

      It was Ivan Susanin who brought him to the swamp
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 17 August 2020 20: 20 New
    +6
    Taking into account the level of salaries of ordinary workers, not everyone can afford iPhones at MZKT.
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 17 August 2020 20: 29 New
    -1
    Quote: Gado
    We were banned a lot, especially after joining the EU. The armed forces were reduced to a minimum, the police were three times as much, the factories were destroyed, the prices were inflated, etc., I can say a lot more.
    When the events in Ukraine began, on the pages of VO, we, Bulgarians, warned about the consequences, because we ourselves have gone through this and are still going, now is the time to warn the Belarusians. People, absolute freedom is still a chimera, but they won't let you live honestly, just like they won't let us. And you will go into slaves, although well paid, but all the same, slaves. And you will remember your "dictator" with emotion, as we now remember our Todor Zhivkov. And you will regret 100 times that you believed in "democracy" and the promises of some "concerned" on the other side of the world.
    I wish you more brains to think well and health to go through all this.
    I wish you success, Belarusian people!

    Belarusians.
    Read the comment quoted above.
    Think if this is yours.
    Do you want to live in an era of similar changes and do you want this for your children.
    1. Inspector
      Inspector 17 August 2020 20: 46 New
      0
      The Belarusians want a Kremlin henchman, not this eternal Maidan man.
    2. Sanche
      Sanche 17 August 2020 20: 59 New
      -1
      Quote: Livonetc
      And you will go into slaves, although well paid, but all the same, slaves.

      No one indulges in the illusion of freedom, but it's better to be a well-paid slave than to work only for food.
    3. Sanche
      Sanche 17 August 2020 21: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Livonetc
      And you will remember your "dictator" with emotion

      After medieval torture of people in isolation wards - never!
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 17 August 2020 20: 41 New
    -2
    Continue to play protests, Tikhanovskaya promised to feed the unemployed, not suddenly stocks appeared ... In Belarus, I doubt that foreign countries will help you. If Maduro blocked the access to the humanitarian convoys! Then Lukashenko with one movement of his hand will make everyone let out and no one or nothing. The siloviki are all Against the protests. The Ministry of Internal Affairs apologized, well, it happens, you sometimes bring up wives, too, and there is nothing, put up. So you can go on strike, we are waiting for reports on weight loss. Money has not yet been canceled.
  • Inspector
    Inspector 17 August 2020 20: 45 New
    0
    Yesterday Russia was enemy number one, and when the tail pressed down, a feint with the ears, and again "guard, Maidan". Nothing that Luka is the number one Maidan man? Putin, where are the Russian tanks ???
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 17 August 2020 22: 48 New
      0
      On the border, the tanks go "gloomy"!
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 17 August 2020 20: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    For example, Bulgaria, upon joining the European Union, covered up the possibility of exporting bell peppers.


    Stirlitz ....... Well, like a normal person, but what do you think, when you write this rubbish, for me a secret. In the EU, by definition, there are no borders, travel bans, work bans and sales restrictions.

    There are enough restrictions and unequal rights of countries in terms of production differentiation.
    Even Finland has received very serious restrictions in the field of agriculture.
    And what do you think they centrally cope with overproduction in the agricultural sector?
    The principle is as follows.
    Who got up earlier and slippers.
    And everyone is dancing Germany, she is the main beneficiary of the European Union.
    If you wish, you can smoke the topic more tightly.
    I'm from a smartphone and with bad crap, it's hard for me to surf the Internet on this topic.
  • flicker
    flicker 17 August 2020 21: 03 New
    -6
    A poll was conducted on one of the Ukrainian TV channels: are they on the side of Lukashenka or the protesters? 90% said that they are on the side of Lukashenka.
    ---
    It is necessary for those Belarusians who shout “go away!” To be sent for permanent residence in Ukraine.
    Let them live under the "virtuoso pianist", maybe some gyrus moves. It may move ... or it may not move.
    If not, it's a barbecue.
    ---
  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 17 August 2020 21: 05 New
    -1
    Good luck to you Belarusians! It is better to raise a rebellion than to live in a dictatorship, lies and lawlessness!
    And after this it will not be easy, but nothing is given in this world for nothing, and you will manage to make yourself a state that is worthy of you.
    1. Oleg Skvortsov
      Oleg Skvortsov 17 August 2020 22: 38 New
      -1
      Evgeny. yes you are a provocateur, besides, you suffer from a lack of gray matter, and this is a dangerous combination
    2. Valter1364
      Valter1364 17 August 2020 22: 45 New
      -1
      Third grade, second quarter! Learn the grammar, and then go into geopolitics, kid.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 18 August 2020 01: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: Valter1364
        Third grade, second quarter! Learn the grammar, and then go into geopolitics, kid.

        And you write the same thing in Bulgarian. wink
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 17 August 2020 21: 07 New
    -2
    Quote: Sanche
    Quote: Livonetc
    And you will remember your "dictator" with emotion

    After medieval torture of people in isolation wards - never!

    Your citation is crooked.
    You are not quoting my post, but the post of a citizen of Bulgaria.
    It is he who warns the citizens of Belarus against a fatal mistake.
    Are you a citizen of the Republic of Belarus?
    Did you receive medieval torture?
    Or did you do it yourself?
    Photographed how the Americans did by raping prisoners?
    Where does the information come from?
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  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 17 August 2020 21: 47 New
    +1
    laughing It would be better if the organizers answered, but the rams-performers usually answer.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 17 August 2020 21: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Sanche
    Quote: dima-tut
    Russians, take it for yourself.

    Belarusians will also pay extra

    No, we don’t need someone else, use it for health laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 17 August 2020 21: 56 New
    -1
    They have magic ovens. They release steel immediately. Moreover, a stainless steel. Ready-made self-donning pans. laughing
  • Kushka
    Kushka 17 August 2020 22: 02 New
    +2
    I am ashamed to ask - was there any falsification or not?
    Or is it not important to anyone?
    1. Terrible GMO
      Terrible GMO 18 August 2020 00: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: Kushka
      I am ashamed to ask - was there any falsification or not?

      Only 40% early turnout. In total, almost all independent observers were kicked out due to the threat of the coronavirus (ha-ha). In total, the turnout was overstated at least twice (on my site on the day of my absence, it was overstated by 200 people in one single day). Direct video and audio evidence of fraud from commission members.

      Believe it or not.
  • Vovk
    Vovk 17 August 2020 22: 27 New
    -1
    Quote: flicker
    A poll was conducted on one of the Ukrainian TV channels: are they on the side of Lukashenka or the protesters? 90% said that they are on the side of Lukashenka.
    ---
    It is necessary for those Belarusians who shout “go away!” To be sent for permanent residence in Ukraine.
    Let them live under the "virtuoso pianist", maybe some gyrus moves. It may move ... or it may not move.
    If not, it's a barbecue.
    ---

    The Belarusians do not yet understand how lucky they are from the entire CIS with the president.
    They did not understand their happiness - stability in power, you wanted to get changes - is the example of Ukraine not a lesson to you?
    Nothing, then it will come that they have lost ... but it will be too late.
    Naive, capitalists think they will keep the same social guarantees, salaries and pensions ...
    The state enterprises will tear them apart ... the first millionaires will appear.
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 17 August 2020 22: 29 New
    +3
    Eh Old Man ... if you would go the truth to resign ... you see even labor collectives (which have their jobs thanks to you) against you ...
    Get state security and a pension and live in your village, drink tea with gingerbread and watch the "zombie box" through which they will show about the next reduction of workers at MTZ, MZKT, MAZ, etc.
    Everything you could have done for your RB, your people lived in greenhouse conditions, passed the "privatization", "dashing 90s", has free medicine and education, all this will be in the past ...
    For 1/4 century, a new generation of young Belarusians has grown up who do not know the value of Soviet achievements, because as they are closer to Western values, neither they are the first, nor they are the last ... former Komsomol members in the 90s also immediately liked them ...
    You will watch the "zombie box", as the Republic of Belarus is again turning into a Parliamentary Republic with some pro-Western parties, and the Belarusian communists will cry on Solovyov's program that they were banned and persecuted everywhere ...
    Why did you start arguing with the hard worker at the Plant, anyway he "knows more than you" .... and he is not worried about the fate of his Plant, because believes that your "replacement" will also negotiate with the Russian Federation on new orders that are simply "necessary" for the Russian Federation ....
    It was you who sat on two chairs and knocked out loans for the Republic of Belarus and orders for your enterprises, and many did not like it, your "changer" at best will sit on a stool with his back to the Russian Federation, at worst he will kneel to the EU and the USA .. ..
    Leave now, I'm sure no one will touch you in the West, you can always say that you went to meet the people ...
    Your voters (how many of them would not exist) are not able to protect you (as when they could not also protect the voters of Yanukovych) ...
    Before leaving, give the RB one last chance and appeal to all the people of the Republic of Belarus and ask them for support and protection, if they ignore you, then everything that you did before was bad for the Republic of Belarus and your people don't need you ... then your conscience will be as pure as a teardrop of a baby and no one can name you either in Belarus or here on the forum that you are the last dictator in Europe ... and if they do, then you, as an honored pensioner, will be on your way ...
    The people of the Republic of Belarus chose extreme, they will get it, because any other presidential candidate will be a Russophobe ... with all the ensuing consequences for Belarus ...
  • BAI
    BAI 17 August 2020 22: 33 New
    0
    D. Olshansky wrote correctly:
    Moscow, which for twenty years did nothing, only spent summits and mastered budgets for reading Pushkin's poems, and which, even at this desperate last moment, will never utter the forbidden word "Russians", but will quietly push through its next swindler, some kind of matchmaker babarik, so that she too was a Belarusian nationalist - "but still together with the Kremlin", and then suddenly deceived, wagged her tail and went to the West.

    The Moscow intelligentsia, which is always and in any case against Russia, and which now spews tons of syrupy vulgarity, after all, it is against Putin, against the bad imperial Russians, what happiness, delight, but as soon as a new government is established, and this government will engage in repression and censorship, so immediately the intelligentsia will pretend that they have forgotten where Minsk is, maybe this is an island in the Pacific Ocean, an atoll, no?

    And finally, time.

    Because the most terrible enemy of common sense, the enemy of the established, old life, which one does not want to throw into the abyss, is not an activist with a balloon, not an American ambassador, not a cynical Moscow official, not a hypocritical liberal, but the spirit of the times itself.

    The spirit of the times, spreading everywhere this contempt and hatred for the people of the industrial era, the people of the twentieth century - pennies, boomers, stuffy, make room, welcome, grandfather, to our creative columbarium - and pushing one country after another out of the dying world of modernity, where there were schools, pensions, factories, officers and books, into the world of the most fashionable savagery, where one oasis of prosperity and style will account for hundreds and thousands of kilometers of abandoned, dead land.