The Central Election Commission of the Republic of Belarus rejected the complaints of Lukashenka's rivals, and MTZ workers joined the strike

The Central Election Commission of the Republic of Belarus issued a statement, which refers to the decision on the complaints of candidates about the election results. Candidates who opposed Alyaksandr Lukashenka sent their complaints to the CEC demanding not to recognize the election results.

It should be reminded that the Central Election Commission of the Republic of Belarus declared Lukashenka the winner of the elections with more than 80 percent of the votes.

Now the republican CEC announced that the complaints of three ex-candidates (Dmitriev, Tikhanovskaya and Kanopatskaya) on non-recognition of the election results were rejected, and a complaint from candidate Cherechen was not submitted to the commission.

Recall that from some EU countries, statements are heard about the need to either recount the votes, or to hold repeated elections. In fact, this is direct interference in the internal affairs of Belarus. One can imagine what would rise in the same EU if a high-ranking Belarusian politician announced the need to hold repeat elections, for example, in Slovenia, the Czech Republic or France.

Meanwhile, in Belarus, protests and strikes continued. The workers of MTZ joined the strike. At the same time, the workers are putting forward openly political demands, up to the "removal of the illegitimate president and the appointment of new elections." The Belarusian portal Tut.by informs about it.

Representative of the MTZ team:

If our requirements are not met, we will leave the territory of the plant.

Another statement from a representative of the plant staff:

Our president (after a long pause - approx. "VO") - Tikhanovskaya.

Comments

[Grazdanin]

Lukashenka and his Caudle do not understand what they are doing. To announce the results before the weekend, before the funeral of those killed, during the mass actions of the factory workers is to sign a verdict for yourself.

[210ox]

The verdict has already been signed by these fools.

[Grazdanin]

On August 9-12, Lukashenka's verdict was drawn up and prepared, today they put the last signature. It remains to wait for the entry into force.

[Grandfather]

The Central Election Commission of the Republic of Belarus rejected the complaints of Lukashenka's rivals, and MTZ workers joined the strike

in the "State Department" burns! MTZ has already connected, and doctors, and some policemen, and Belaz ...

[Alex777]

The beautiful dacha was removed from sale:
https://lenta.ru/news/2020/08/14/tarakan/

[military_cat]

Let's be honest: the only reason why Lukashenka is supported in Russia is because they understand that whoever comes to his place will most likely not want to look towards Russia. And to prevent this from happening, in Russia they even agree that the brotherly Belarusian people should live in a concentration camp.

[Fungus]

Let's be honest. Russians do not want Belarusians to honor the fate of Ukrainians. And then the Ukrainians of Yanukovych will remember Lukashenka as they do now. You fell apart and became the world's beggars thanks to the horses, and now you crow on Russian resources out of resentment.

[Romka]

Thank you for worrying about us so much. About bad Belarusians who do not know about their happiness.

[prior]

The lessons of Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Venezuela, they are certainly not written for Belarus.
Of course, Belarusians are smarter, more cunning, more successful.
They will definitely be able to sit down and eat.
Good luck baboons.

[Prisoner]

Exactly. And Soros and his accomplices love them more and, for sure, they will definitely arrange a life for them - a milk river with jelly banks. And the Ukrainians, Georgians, Moldovans were simply not lucky, but the Belarusians are completely different, they will definitely be lucky. The strikers are especially touched. If the dad is thrown off in a year and a half, these naive people will surely be on the boulevards to trade in every little thing from home. Life doesn't teach people a damn thing.

[Tatyana]

I am generally amazed by the persistent impudence of Tikhanovskaya! What does she think of herself ?!
As soon as Tikhanovskaya came to Lithuania, her tearful refusal on video from the struggle for presidential power was replaced by her raising the flag again to seize the "presidential throne"! Where is such agility?
Firstly. Well, let's say that in the regions bordering on the West, she really received 60-70% of the votes in the elections. But these are not the results of elections across the country! How can she this particular result of hers, i.e. in a limited number of specific - border - regions, to extend to the whole country? No way!
10% of the votes she won in the elections is really her "average temperature in the hospital" in the elections across the country and nothing more! What right does she have to trouble the whole country - walk over corpses - and not just challenging the election results, but voluntarily - radical extremist - declaring himself the president of the Republic of Belarus ?! [/ bYes, you never know who will come up with something! [b] Who gave her such a right to arrange a STATE REVOLUTION in the country?
And secondly. Where did she get such a huge amount of money for an election campaign, in which she was clearly advised by expensive professional PR managers? For what preferences and for whom and from which countries did PR people and financiers work and are working for it? After all, she herself is absolutely nothing!
And Lukashenka was right when he said that the opposition control centers are located in Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania and other countries.

SVETLANA TIKHANOVSKAYA. WHAT CANDIDATE? • May 31, 2020 GOMEL
The physiognomist analyzed the video of Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, the presidential candidate in Belarus.

[Tatyana]

On the lower video in the article, a strike participant read out to journalists the demands of the striking plant workers:
1. Unconditional release of detained protesters. Absolute release of all political prisoners, including those detained for 4 days of participation in "peaceful" rallies and processions.
2. Cancellation of the CEC decision on the election results. And new re-elections
3. Removal of the current government. Dismissal of the incumbent president.

At the same time, the strike participants complain that about 20 workers of the plant at a "peaceful" rally outside the plant were seriously beaten by the police. However, at the same time he did not say a word about the organized groups that during the so-called. "Peaceful" rallies attacked the police and maimed road traffic accidents and other police officers - people in uniform. That there were deliberate raids of the demonstrators' cars on the guards, that stones were thrown at them, that they beat them with iron fittings, and that “Molotov cocktails” were used. But these people were on duty.
Police officers will also be punished for exceeding their official duties.

And nevertheless, for the fact that the people were beaten as a result of not at all "peaceful" and unauthorized marches and rallies as a result of force and armed confrontation with the police in Belarus, let the demonstrators say thanks to Tikhanovskaya, who made all this mess with the GOSPEREVOROT in the Republic of Belarus .Belarus! Well, thanks to the existing foreign NGOs in the country.

[Alex Justice]

2. Cancellation of the CEC decision on the election results. And new re-elections
3. Removal of the current government. Dismissal of the incumbent president.

All-seeing. He already knows that Lukashenka will lose and has already removed him from power if there are new elections.
And if Lukashenka wins the new elections, what then?

[Tatyana]

Quote: Alex Justice

All-seeing. He already knows that Lukashenka will lose and has already removed him from power if there are new elections.
And if Lukashenka wins the new elections, what then?

Now in the Republic of Belarus there is such a situation about which they usually say that horses are not changed at the crossing.
The events in the Republic of Belarus are based on the historically trivial provocative policy of the US special services against the union of Belarus and Russia, namely against the Union State in the post-Soviet space.
Lukashenka, with his recent conciliatory actions in the direction of rapprochement R, Belarus with the West / USA, gullibly made a political mistake. Who prompted him to make this mistake? This is a question that needs to be dealt with. Perhaps Maley (this is my point of view, I could be wrong).
In general, all this needs to be seriously dealt with and the situation should be corrected to restore the shaken confidence in Lukashenka from the pro-Russian Belarusian electorate. This takes time and certain actions and efforts.

Lukashenka was firmly seized for the Faberge. Pros and cons. Pitfalls • Aug 12 Feb 2020

[Deck]

General Director of the Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant Aleksey Rimasheskiy admits Lukashenka's defeat in the elections.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Deck

General Director of the Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant Aleksey Rimasheskiy admits Lukashenka's defeat in the elections.

Alexey Rimashevsky is a coward, a comformist and a traitor.

REFERENCE
Conformist can mean: Conformism is a moral and political term denoting opportunism, passive acceptance of the existing order of things and prevailing opinions, a defector from one dominant camp to another in order to preserve one's own self.
In short, a rat on the ship.

[Tatyana]

Lukashenka has already said that the coordinating centers for the leadership of the "Maidan" STATE REVOROT in the country are located in Lithuania, the Czech Republic, Poland, Ukraine, etc. And they are all anti-Russian.

As for Ukraine's attitude to the alliance between Belarus and Russia, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Kuleba said that Ukraine is sincerely building its policy, proceeding from the fact that Ukraine itself needs an "independent" and "sovereign" Belarus to overcome the crisis in Ukraine itself. Probably the same as the "square" Bandera-Kiev Ukraine itself.)

"It is in Russia's interests to weaken the countries in which it has an active foreign policy and in which it wants to strengthen its positions. Diplomatically, of course, Russia ... wishes good and health to the Belarusian people, but we understand that weakened, REJECTED by the West Belarus will be an EASY target for the Russian Federation, "Kuleba added.

For more details see - https://24tv.ua/ru/kuleba-oslablennaja-ottorgnutaja-belarus-legkaja-novosti-belarus_n1395885

Firstly. Interesting, How, in Kuliba's opinion, Belarus, Torn away by the West from Russia, will turn out to be “an easy prey for the Russian Federation”? AND why suddenly not the other way around? Not an EASY prey for the collective West / US? This internal-logical contradiction in Kuleba's statement is not just a logical error, but sophism is a manipulative trick of an unscrupulous politician in proving his alleged innocence. And therefore it cannot be used in any way as a guide to action. And for whom only then are such deceitful speeches of Kuliba designed? Kuleba is completely insolent at all!

And secondly. Presumably, it is because of the ardent love of the Bandera people of Ukraine for Belarus that the ex-deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of the VIII convocation Igor Mosiychuk from the Radical Party of Oleg Lyashko already announced on September 12.09.2020, XNUMX that he has already gathered his militant detachments of Ukrainian Bandera and they are already in Belarus. There they - these detachments of Ukrainian fascists - are just waiting for a signal from the "Belarusian" "anti-Lukashen" forces to take an active part in the pro-Western coup in Belarus, as it was in Ukraine in 2014.
In his "peace-loving" methods, Mosiychuk appeared more than.
Interesting and how Tikhanovskaya will be able to stop these Ukrainian Maydauns from the side of "peaceful" protesters in violence?
Mosiychuk shot the portrait of Kadyrov. • Dec 9. 2014

[Region68]

The Ukrainians were definitely out of luck. They have a neighbor with imperial ambitions.

[New Year day]

Quote: prior

Good luck baboons.

Sounds like an insult?

[grad2308]

Quote: prior

Good luck baboons.

Hurray-patriots in "quotes". The problem for Belarus is that elections without worthy alternatives are practically from one candidate. Let's see what we will have in 2024. We can’t change anything anyway, and we just need to be patient to see how it all ends in Belarus - not being mistaken for “right” and “left”. When they lost Ukraine ... - there is no need to blame only the "elite" of Ukraine and President Yanukovych V.F. The so-called "our elites" also have wine .... In conflicts, as a rule, both sides are to blame for not finding compromises and mutual points of attraction. PS And conversations about who and whom "feed" (fed) are stupid. Nationalism in Belarus is not as cultivated as it was treated kindly in Ukraine .... and the so-called "ours" turned a blind eye to this.

[Romka]

They offend Belarusians and demand the comfort of love. How geeks demanded love for Lukashenka in paddy wagons. I am a 45-year-old man, I cried when I found out what "people's love" is. It depends on you Russians today whether we will be brothers.

[Dali]

Quote: Romka

It depends on you Russians today whether we will be brothers.

Is Russia to blame again ?!
How do you like to send in troops at once, throw off Lukashenka and put one of your own ?!

Or maybe all the same, oholon, and hold a referendum in favor of joining Russia, and then Russia will calmly resign Lukashenko ...
Not?! Then go ahead for the lace panties ...

[Shilka]

Quote: prior

The lessons of Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Venezuela, they are certainly not written for Belarus.
Of course, Belarusians are smarter, more cunning, more successful.
They will definitely be able to sit down and eat.
Good luck baboons.

Normal Belarusians are sitting at home, leaving the dispersal of rabid thugs to power structures .. They get money for this!
There are many examples of "victory of crap" in the world. Blood, war, robbery
You presented this list correctly .... What to do? Get wet and tough! Otherwise .. well, photos will be banned here, what will happen in Belarus

[tihonmarine]

Quote: prior

Of course, Belarusians are smarter, more cunning, more successful.

Well, excuse me, Ukrainians have always considered themselves superior to the Belarusians in intelligence and cunning. And what happened in reality, everything, even the Belarusians can see (although I don't know, it's not my business).

[Cristall]

Quote: tihonmarine

Well, excuse me, Ukrainians have always considered themselves higher than Belarusians in intelligence, cunning

did not consider
hard workers quieter than us
it is the climate that typos the mentality.
Southerners are more loud, mobile and more cheerful, but the warmer the more laziness / or vice versa trade

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Cristall

Southerners are more loud, mobile and more cheerful.

Noisy, yes. But evil and not funny, that's two.
It was hard to work with them before the breakup. And then ... it's easier for me.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Cristall

hard workers quieter than us

Who? Are you telling the truth or are you kidding?

[16329]

Well, people are tired of working at MTZ, after all, even a fool understands that after the victory of the democratic revolution, MTZ will go bankrupt and liquidated, by the way, passing through democratic Latvia and Lithuania, sincerely rejoiced for the economic well-being, "populousness" and the prospects of these regions

[paul3390]

About bad Belarusians who do not know about their happiness.

Do you know what? Well, if you knock Luka off now, what's next? Do you have a sane plan for the future? After all, he will either be replaced by one of the henchmen and everything will remain the same, or by pro-Western liberal utyrkists, and then everything will be like in Tsegabonia, if not worse .. Power should be thrown off only if you know very well what will be in return .. ...

[mdsr]

Quote: paul3390

Do you know what? Well, if you knock Luka off now, what's next? Do you have a sane plan for the future? After all, he will either be replaced by one of the henchmen and everything will remain the same, or by pro-Western liberal utyrkists, and then everything will be like in Tsegabonia, if not worse .. Power should be thrown off only if you know very well what will be in return .. ...

History teaches us that when a dictator is overthrown, the people are united as never before. But after being thrown off, this unity begins to disintegrate into different parts. This is when the natural political process and normal competition for power begins, which were previously completely cleaned out by the dictator. Belarus will also have to go this way from the very beginning. As a child learns to walk and talk, a healthy democratic political environment in Belarus will be formed gradually. I am sure that the calm and hardworking Belarusian people will walk this path quickly and in a civilized manner.

[paul3390]

Well, well .. In Tsegabonia, Evon is still learning to walk independently and not shit in harem pants .. So far - to no avail .. True - they have learned MOV without exception, this is certainly an achievement. It was worth the destroyed former richest republic of the Union ..

[snucerist]

And what, in fact, do the Russians live better?
The salary is slightly higher. The pension is slightly higher. It is a fact. Is that all?
Are these all achievements in two decades? Without Maidans and twenty years of stability?
Yes, given the Russian potential, a Russian should receive ORDERSES more than a Ukrainian!
In Russia, in the bowels of the entire periodic table!
The richest deposits of oil, gas, diamonds, gold, metals! The richest forests, vast fields, access to many rivers and seas!
There is much that is not at all on the Ukrainian territory!
And with all this, the average Russian lives only slightly better than the average Ukrainian?
Why?
Compare the GDP of Ukraine and Russia. Pensions. Salaries. Is there a fantastic gap between them?
But without Maidans, right? But stability? At which the Russian segment of the Forbes list is growing steadily, the tonnage of the number of private ocean-class yachts is steadily increasing, the number of private jets and luxury real estate is steadily growing over the hill?

[bukhach]

What are you doing populism? Compare the defense spending of ours and the Ukrainians, compare the climatic zones, distances and the state of different regions of Russia. And pensions and salaries are different everywhere and if someone does not live and survives, then the other feels quite tolerable, but this is not means that this other will not complain about a difficult life. We live under capitalism, if you do not know where income inequality is natural and the standard of living for different categories of citizens is very different. And about yachts, villas, Canary Islands and other lists of the rich, I'm tired, honest The word. What, in other countries, is it different, where the rich rip their shirt for their compatriots? Everywhere the same thing, look at the number of millionaires in China. Poor people around the globe denounce the rich, blame them for everything, and this, in principle, correct, but this is the world order. An attempt to change something, I mean socialism, failed. A man, his natural egoism, cannot be changed, this was very well shown by the example of the USSR.

[16329]

No, this will not happen, relax, you will not have to become "Litvin", bring down to Vilna with this Polish loser who imagines herself the president

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Romka

Thank you for worrying about us so much. About bad Belarusians who do not know about their happiness.

Quote: Romka

Thank you for worrying about us so much. About bad Belarusians who do not know about their happiness.

Belarusians from NGOs and politicians of all stripes will definitely become happier. But the hard workers from MTZ, basically, will find themselves on the street and go to look for their happiness over the hill.

[demos1111]

Are the Belarusians smart? Where am I going to sell these tractors? Tikhanovskaya to Poland, the Germans to Berlin, or maybe a friend of Pompeo or Si?
This is understandable. Am I more interested in the Kremlin's reaction? What will the little green men or rockets choose near Smolensk?
Russia is crumbling, trembling. First, they threw their own in Mariupol, then in Odessa. Now our turn has come in Minsk.
How disgusting at heart. And that, yes, it became easier to get visas in Russia, hto apparently all the Russians would have moved out, we are freeing the place for the Poles.
The other woman has more eggs in her power than the man's.

[grad2308]

Quote: demos1111

Are the Belarusians smart? Where am I going to sell these tractors? Tikhanovskaya to Poland, the Germans to Berlin, or maybe a friend of Pompeo or Si?
This is understandable. Am I more interested in the Kremlin's reaction? What will the little green men or rockets choose near Smolensk?
Russia is crumbling, trembling. First, they threw their own in Mariupol, then in Odessa. Now our turn has come in Minsk.
How disgusting at heart. And that, yes, it became easier to get visas in Russia, hto apparently all the Russians would have moved out, we are freeing the place for the Poles.
The other woman has more eggs in her power than the man's.

They "threw" not when the Maidan and the "redistribution" of power took place. And then, when they turned a blind eye to the flourishing of double-headed nationalism and the flirting of the existing government with the Banderaites, there were "flowers", and the war against its people became the result in Ukraine. The question is, where was our leadership and why did the so-called "elites" turn a blind eye to this. There was no point in sending troops to Ukraine in 2014, and even more so now (I know how "any bush" can shoot at night, I feel sorry for the young guys). It is easier to recognize the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics - they defended their freedom one way or another, having lost part of the territory. Many people from Belarus leave for Poland, hoping to obtain European citizenship, forgetting that Poland has accumulated loans (raising the standard of living), which need to be repaid in 20-30 years. The main example for Ukraine and Belarus, what would they strive for us. There could be a standard of living, and most importantly, in industry we would be SELF-SUFFICIENT from other countries. And this does not exist .... - Since 1991, the industry has either been "stolen" or "bought out" from us.

[cat Rusich]

Peter, are you from Belarus? - if yes, then put things in order at home YOURSELF, or everything for you needs to be done by the Russians (Russia), and then you will start a "song about the occupation" that we hear from Ukraine. Choose "putting things in order with little green men" - then return to your "home harbor" (Russia) by provinces - Minsk, Mogilev, Grodno, Gomel, Vitebsk and Brest. The authorities do not need "eggs", brains ...

[Overlock]

Quote: cat Rusich

or everything needs to be done for you by the Russian (Russia)

But have we already been invited there to put things in order? The technician ourselves was set up at the border, we are waiting for the command to invade. But the land is partisan

[cat Rusich]

He answered "no one to Peter", who complained that V. Putin is silent and "does not restore order in Belarus" (as I understand him) - complains about the fate of Mariupal and Odessa ... who do not show explicit resistance and are just waiting .. when someone comes and puts things in order. The whole conversation about the "strike of MTZ" and other enterprises is about the fact that after A.G. Lukashenko, many factories, especially those at which they were "on strike", will be closed for "economic reasons" - there will be no one to strike, everything will be calm ... only hungry ...

[Dali]

Quote: Overlock

But the land is partisan

There was once ... or do you think that neksta-nisiki will go to the partisans ... their guts are thin ...

[demos1111]

Yes . I live in Minsk. Russian. National minority. I wanted to write the same Russian as you. But apparently it’s already a different one for you.
What can I answer you. Yesterday Poles and Co. We've worked out our plan. Yes, they will roll us out here, a few may run to you, although judging by your mood, it is unlikely that someone needs us from you.
What does it mean missiles near Smolensk. You can be beyond the Urals, far away, does not concern you.

[cat Rusich]

The workers of the MTZ plant want to repeat the "labor successes" of the plant. Antonov in Kiev. Let's see what will happen to Motor Sich from Zaporozhye ... Let us "remember" MTZ as we see the Belarus tractor - in time it may become a "museum exhibit" (if the "Minsk Maidan" wins in Belarus).

[Overlock]

Quote: cat Rusich

The workers of the MTZ plant want to repeat the "labor successes" of the plant. Antonov in Kiev.

in my opinion, they want not to be beaten to begin with. Didn't you notice this? You like. when are you beaten?

[cat Rusich]

Remind us how many aircraft were manufactured at the Antonov Serial Plant after 2014.

[Overlock]

Quote: cat Rusich

Remind us how many aircraft were manufactured at the Antonov Serial Plant after 2014.

How many aircraft were manufactured at the Saratov aircraft plant?

Saratov aircraft plant 2015

[Deck]

As many as tractors at the Volgograd Tractor Plant

[Dali]

Quote: Deck

As many as tractors at the Volgograd Tractor Plant

But they don't make tractors, here's what they do:
https://vgtz.com
Currently, the industrial site produces a new generation of airborne combat vehicles - BMD-4M - modern sophisticated vehicles saturated with high-tech components. This is an indicator that the enterprise is able to provide the highest quality of manufacturing of any complex equipment, both military and civilian.

And there are enough tractors to do.

[Deck]

Is that what you mean? Altai Tractor Plant

[Dali]

Not understood? Are you talking to me?

[Deck]

You, patriotic you are ours

[Dali]

Quote: Deck

You, patriotic you are ours

https://vgtz.com
Can you read? Nesalezhny you are our ...

[Letun]

Quote: Romka

Thank you for worrying about us so much. About bad Belarusians who do not know about their happiness.

And you really don't know. All these dissatisfied, if this madam comes to power, on her forehead it is written that she was sold for grants, all these dissatisfied, I repeat, will repeat the fate of the workers from the Antonov plant and Motor Sich. Or do they really think they will buy tractors and trucks in the west?
Well, in totalitarian Russia, you will have to build more factories ...

[Avior]

Ukrainians mostly remember Yanukovych with foul language.
In the East, in the West, in the South, everywhere.
Amazing unanimity, just a rare case for Ukraine.

[Liam]

Quote: Avior

In the East, in the West, in the South - everywhere

Which is typical in Rostov and Moscow too. One joy for him is that soon he will give this palm to another character

[dauria]

soon he will give this palm to another character

No, not soon. He outplayed Lukashenka "maydauns", outplayed him beautifully. And this rally in the pictures is already with a demand (or rather with a request) - "Let go of our stupid children, they will no longer be." There is no slogan "down with the tyrant". I beat the kids and let them go by subscription, the chief security officer apologized something like this - sorry, don't jump on the circular anymore, I won't stop it.
The circus is over, disperse. And yes - "Woe to the vanquished"Nobody canceled.

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: dauria

He outplayed Lukashenka "maydauns", outplayed him beautifully.

Uh-huh. Follow the news. And you won't change your shoes in the air.

[Pavel73]

Yanukovych became a victim of new methods of the West waging war against the Russian people. The methods are as follows. First, a hundred thousand rams are taken out into the street and a hundred of them are killed. And who exactly killed them, in general, does not matter. Then, with innocent faces, they come to the president and say: see what YOU have done? This is all because you do not fulfill the requirements of the people. These one hundred people are on your conscience. If you don't want new corpses, do what the people demand. Immediately a call comes from Washington, the second from Brussels, and they tell him about the same on the phone. That's how or something like that broke Yanukovych. And crowds of militants with machine guns in the presidential palace are the barbarism of the 20th century. The president is not to be killed. You need to kill the rams.

[Avior]

So Yanukovych acted on your advice until he fled.
And before that, you made a tour of Ukraine, found out, at least someone needs him here? It turned out no one.
Then he was taken to Rostov like a ram in a helicopter.

[Pavel73]

So he therefore did not need anyone. At the decisive moment, he gave up slack. Already in December, the Americans insolently spoke from the Maidan stands, what is this!

[Avior]

And before that, he did not give a slack.
It became clear to everyone that he would not hold power except with bayonets.
And there is little sense with such a power, and there will be serious problems with bayonets, the security forces in general, and even more so the army is not a group isolated from the people.
Lukashenka has the same problem.

[Tamparu]

Quote: Pavel73

Yanukovych became a victim of new methods of the West waging war against the Russian people. The methods are as follows. First, a hundred thousand rams are taken out into the street and a hundred of them are killed. And who exactly killed them, in general, does not matter. Then, with innocent faces, they come to the president and say: see what YOU have done? This is all because you do not fulfill the requirements of the people. These one hundred people are on your conscience. If you don't want new corpses, do what the people demand. Immediately a call comes from Washington, the second from Brussels, and they tell him about the same on the phone. That's how or something like that broke Yanukovych. And crowds of militants with machine guns in the presidential palace are the barbarism of the 20th century. The president is not to be killed. You need to kill the rams.

Yanukovych had the same questions as Belarusians had to Lukashenka! The majority simply wanted this clown to dethrone his presidency and take with him all the "thugs" that squeezed the juice from entrepreneurs and common people. But there were more cunning "gop-stopniki" who, on this wave, took power into their hands. In my opinion, the situation is similar in Belarus!
As they say ... "oil painting" !!!
Sincerely,

[New Year day]

Quote: TampaRU

Yanukovych had the same questions as Belarusians had to Lukashenka!

It is necessary to add the important - which all YOURSELF gave rise to

[Pavel73]

Yes, no matter how bad he is, no matter how he is a clown and a thief, it is possible to remove him from power only by the LAW and nothing else! No uprisings and coups, in any case! For by illegal, that is, by criminal means, only new criminals and thieves, even worse than the previous ones, can come to power. Isn't Poroshenko a clown? Not a thief? And Zelensky is that one hundred percent professional clown. And no one wondered why the West so fiercely supports this whole booze, in Russia, in Ukraine, in Belarus? Is it possible that the West is so concerned about freedom, democracy, human rights and the well-being of our peoples? Damn it with two! They don't care about us, they need their own benefit. In this particular case, the West, represented by the United States, needs a stake between Europe and Russia. A wall that does not allow economically to combine Russian resources and European technologies, and thereby create America-2, from Lisbon to Vladivostok. They spoil us just for this. Nothing personal, just business. The US doesn't need a competitor.

[Avior]

If the formal side is suddenly so important to you, then Yanukovych himself fled and hid in Rostov for more than a week, no one threatened him there, after all.

[Pavel73]

I say - he had to die like Salvador Allende (as an option - from an accident) and thereby remove himself from power in one of the three ways provided for in the constitution. Either he would be forced to renounce, this is also provided for by the constitution. In both cases, this would mean the immediate legalization of the Nazis, and we would not have any legal grounds to save even the Crimea from these scum.

[Avior]

If he had the intelligence to leave in time, the nationalists would have remained in flight.
And he clung to power with his teeth, not to tear
Lukashenka has the same problem.
The more he holds on to power, the more radical an element will replace him. And this general rule applies not only to Belarus or Ukraine.
It concerns Russia in the same way.

[Pavel73]

As for Yanukovych, no one was holding on to power with any teeth. He had only a year left before the elections. Well, you just couldn't be patient! As for Lukashenka, can anyone clearly explain why he is bad? Has it become better or worse under him? And if it is bad, then it was necessary to convince him to leave voluntarily. Convince non-publicly, in an amicable way, without any forceful pressure, riots and coups, and of course without any foreign intervention. Having previously recommended a possible candidate for the future president, which would suit him. That is how Yeltsin was removed from power. Unable to convince? This means that there were no weighty arguments and proposals.

[Avior]

In the case of Yanukovych, no, it was impossible.
I got everyone.
And about not holding on, it's not even funny.
Lukashenka is the same. What about how to change your mind, do you really think so naively?
Lukashenko lives for the sake of power, and you are going to persuade him to give it up.
Such people around them destroy all possible competitors, and even the very possibility of their appearance.
On the principle "if not he then who is it"?
Yeltsin is not an indicator.
Modern rulers of a different warehouse, take care of their health, do not abuse alcohol.

[Pavel73]

No matter how the leader gets, no matter how bad he may be, he cannot be removed from power in any other way, except for the law. Otherwise it will only get worse. Even if he or his henchmen break the law, it is still impossible! And one more thing: what kind of foolishness does everyone think that Lukashenko, Yanukovych or Putin are hungry for power? Have you heard anything about the sword of Damocles? And about Monomakh's hat? Whoever did not wear it has no right to judge the leaders. And given that under Lukashenko, Putin and Yanukovych the situation in all three countries was stable, it turns out that they are not so bad leaders. Do not you yourself see that all this booze comes from the West, and is supported by the West, quite openly ?!

[Tamparu]

Quote: Pavel73

Yes, no matter how bad he is, no matter how he is a clown and a thief, it is possible to remove him from power only by the LAW and nothing else! No uprisings and coups, in any case! For by illegal, that is, by criminal means, only new criminals and thieves, even worse than the previous ones, can come to power. Isn't Poroshenko a clown? Not a thief? And Zelensky is that one hundred percent professional clown. And no one wondered why the West so fiercely supports this whole booze, in Russia, in Ukraine, in Belarus? Is it possible that the West is so concerned about freedom, democracy, human rights and the well-being of our peoples? Damn it with two! They don't care about us, they need their own benefit. In this particular case, the West, represented by the United States, needs a stake between Europe and Russia. A wall that does not allow economically to combine Russian resources and European technologies, and thereby create America-2, from Lisbon to Vladivostok. They spoil us just for this. Nothing personal, just business. The US doesn't need a competitor.

Here I agree on the legality. This is where my views on the events of 2013-2014 were divided. At the first stage, I supported the actions demanded by the people on the Maidan, namely, that Yanukovych should leave together with his "henchmen". He signed up to this and in October was supposed to "dump" through the elections. When the gang of "sly ** s" headed by Poroshenko decided to further disperse the hysteria of the Maidan with the support of the Vuikostan, then I realized that with these I was definitely not on the way ... But, but !!! The locomotive is gone, bye !!!!! ... This is short ...
Let me summarize. I completely agree that everything should be legal, but Lukashenka must surrender power. With all this, somehow to hand over so that the smart-ass Euro-, Anglo-Saxon "handsome men" could not get any "gesheft" out of it!
Sincerely,

[Pavel73]

Good. Let's say Lukashenka decides to leave. Whom to transfer power to? Through elections, of course, but to whom? Here Yeltsin handed over power to Putin. Which we all already knew from the premiership. We saw that the guy was young, energetic, scout (Stirlitz!) And a patriot. You can entrust the country to this. Whom to entrust Belarus to? Well, not Westerners!

[Tamparu]

I understand. I understand that Lukashenka has now driven himself into a remote corner. And there is no simple solution. But a solution must be sought. And at the exit, of course, no Westerners at the head of Belarus !!!
Here, poz, this Lukashenka !!! I wanted to eat a fish and sit down on a vegetable marrow! And this does not often roll, unfortunately!

[Cristall]

Quote: Avior

Ukrainians mostly remember Yanukovych with foul language.
In the East, in the West, in the South, everywhere.
Amazing unanimity, just a rare case for Ukraine.

because nobody expected such a shame from the "professor". Although his nature was known before.
He was remembered by the spin and run. ...

[postum]

Why the Belarusians should honor the fate of the Ukrainians, there are no "LDNR" in Belarus, there is no infringement of the language. Most are in favor of continuing economic relations with Russia. Only you "putriots" are ready to watch Luke crush his people just because the regime itself is very much like Putin's, and you are afraid of that

[New Year day]

Quote: Postum

Only you "putriots" are ready to watch Luka crush his people just because the regime itself is very similar to Putin's,

Their line just hesitates from hatred of Lukashenka during the capture of the Wagnerites to praising and singing diferambs to Luka during the beating of Belarusians. Great-power chauvinism turns out.
And the modes are not alike - they are just twins. And if Belarus leaves, which by the way is not obvious, then they will remain lonely and misunderstood. Yes, they themselves do not understand that their leaders sold them long ago and exchanged them for their assets beyond the cordon, but they cannot agree on the price.
They all rely on the wisdom of the leader and his longevity, without seeing the obvious - he is old and he leaves, and the pyramid of his power will inevitably collapse with its base upside down. Total and scary. And when it is scary, it becomes easier to accuse anyone of fear (CIA, Mossad, Soros, etc., depending on personal preferences) than to understand that everything is done by hand. "After all, the people are not mistaken," they repeated after Putin's election and kneeling vote. So let this phrase. "The people are mistaken" to use it to the Belarusians

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Postum

Why Belarusians should honor the fate of Ukrainians,

All presidential candidates are EU and US oriented.
Next, as with Ukraine:
- EU-Belarus (RB) mutually reduce customs duties,
- RF, protecting its market, raises duties,
- RB loses the RF market,
- industry and cx RB falls on its side
- in the policy of the Republic of Belarus, towards the Russian Federation, it becomes little different from the policy of Ukraine, and the life of ordinary Belarusians, for sure, will not become better.

[Alex777]

- EU-Belarus (RB) mutually reduce customs duties,
- RF, protecting its market, raises duties,
- RB loses the RF market,
- industry and cx RB falls on its side
- in the policy of the Republic of Belarus, towards the Russian Federation, it becomes little different from the policy of Ukraine, and the life of ordinary Belarusians, for sure, will not become better.

Why would Belarus do everything that you wrote here?
They have no prepared association with the EU.
Is there a civil war already underway?
Are some oligarchs overthrowing another?
Do not forget how it all began in Ukraine.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Alex777

Do not forget how it all began in Ukraine.

Quote: Alex777

Do not forget how it all began in Ukraine.

It all started with the same thing - a political reorientation from the RF to the EU.
In Ukraine, it was conducted by Yanukovych, the followers accelerated the process. Luke began in Belarus, his successors will continue - there are no Russian-oriented politicians there.

[Alex777]

In Ukraine, Bandera Kravchuk began reorienting to the West. Kuchma continued. Yushchenko stepped up. In short, there is a different situation.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Postum

no language infringement

Remember, thanks to whom they are not, otherwise you will play out to the extent that there will be.

[cat Rusich]

AG Lukashenko will "leave" - ​​Sveta Tikhanovskaya will "come" - will carry out a "privatization", as a result of which the West will buy all the factories and steamers, and then "Ukraine will begin" ... Motor Sich as an example of what to buy Russian factories should not be counted on - the deal will be canceled, and the plant will sooner be allowed into ferrous metal than Russia will be allowed to enter Belarus.

[Cristall]

Quote: cat Rusich

"Motor Sich" as an example of the fact that Russia cannot count on the purchase of factories - the deal will be canceled, and the plant will sooner be allowed into ferrous metal than Russia will be allowed to enter Belarus

this is AO. Private. Don't want to buy. Boguslaev would have sold everything you want to the RF. Moreover, even under sanctions, he sells everything for a sweet soul (engines in the Russian Federation)
Until 2014, no one would be against the purchase of JSC. Moreover, this is not state property.
Why doesn't he cite what was bought by Russian capital as an example? And collapsed?
Or only the damned west will buy and destroy. And the tyrant oligarch will certainly develop?
There are capitalists here and there, and Russian ones are also competitors.

[cat Rusich]

About "Motor Sich" - the plant seems to have been almost sold to China, ALMOST ... "some misunderstandings" began ... the plant was sold to China or not? There are simply "rumors" that the United States objects to the sale of Motor Sich to China and the deal suddenly became questionable. Maybe Cristall knows better what is happening with Motor Sich - tell us ...

[Cristall]

Quote: cat Rusich

Maybe Cristall knows better what is happening with Motor Sich - tell us ...

control holder - Boguslaev.
So we address a question to him.
In general, the games of Boguslaev, Poroshenko, Chinese partners and others have a rather negative effect on the JSC. Although Dubinsky also spreads rather alert information attracting the attention of the press.

[New Year day]

Quote: Fungus

Russians do not want Belarusians to honor the fate of Ukrainians

Why are you so worried about Belarusians? When they were beaten and killed, you were not worried. The Belarusians will figure it out themselves, the people cannot be mistaken, you yourself said so after voting on the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

[gost2012]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Fungus

Russians do not want Belarusians to honor the fate of Ukrainians

Why are you so worried about Belarusians? When they were beaten and killed, you were not worried. The Belarusians will figure it out themselves, the people cannot be mistaken, you yourself said so after voting on the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

for the first time to you +

[Dali]

Quote: Silvestr

Why are you so worried about Belarusians? When they were beaten and killed, you were not worried. The Belarusians will figure it out themselves, the people cannot be mistaken, you yourself said so after voting on the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

Those. the entire Belarusian people want to go west, and all for the pro-Western puppet Tikhanovskaya?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Fungus

Let's be honest. Russians do not want Belarusians to honor the fate of Ukrainians. And then the Ukrainians of Yanukovych will remember Lukashenka as they do now. You fell apart and became the world's beggars thanks to the horses, and now you crow on Russian resources out of resentment.

And why the fate of the Ukrainians, and not the fate of the USA, USSR, FRANCE for example? The example of Georgia and Armenia is not so indicative, but at least it was no worse to live there after the revolution

[Alex777]

Let's be honest: the only reason why Lukashenka is supported in Russia is because they understand that whoever comes to his place will most likely not want to look towards Russia.

Let's be honest - we don't know much about what's really going on there.
And about Russia's support for Lukashenka - too.
Comrade Xi was the first to congratulate him on his victory.

[military_cat]

I mean support for "_in_ Russia". That is, all these wonderful people who write that the State Department bought the protesters and that they are rocking the boat.

[Alex777]

I mean ... these wonderful people who write that the State Department bought the protesters and that they are rocking the boat.

I would venture to suggest that:
1) There are protesters Belarusians who were bought by the State Department in advance.
2) There are protesters who came from abroad: Ukrainians, Poles, etc. (again, mainly the State Department).
3) And there are those who were not going to protest, but who were outraged by the arrogance during the counting of votes and the cruelty during the dispersal of protests performed by the AHL.
IMHO, the latter are much more.
No one except the AHL is to blame for this.

[New Year day]

Quote: Alex777

No one except the AHL is to blame for this.

And if he is to blame, he must fix it himself. To confirm his victory, let him give the command to count the votes publicly. The procedure is democratic, legal, even Americans do this in disputes, and everything will fall into place! Lukashenka to the throne, and the rest of the shops. What is easier. Although with this calculation, another alignment is possible On the website of the CEC of Belarus, there are no results of the counting of votes by precinct, although the result was announced.

[Alex777]

And since he is guilty, then the imam must fix it.

The Imam will correct him ... by circumcision ... There is no one else ...
I saw that you corrected the typo, but it turned out to be very good.
I don't like the AHL since the day it was elected.
When he immediately said: dad came for a long time - get used to it.
When he began to physically destroy political rivals.
When he did not behave like a brother, but like an enemy, etc., etc.
Now everything is going to the point that he has no place in the new RB.
If the AHL gets out here too, I will be very surprised.
But I am sure that Belarusians themselves should decide his fate.
And Russia needs to strengthen its relations with the fraternal people.

[Alex777]

According to Svobodnaya Pressa, 33 Russians have already crossed the border.

[Grazdanin]

32 only, 33rd with Belarusian passport.

[Dali]

Quote: Grazdanin

32 only, 33rd with Belarusian passport.

He has dual citizenship, they wrote that he decided to stay.

[gost2012]

Quote: military_cat

Let's be honest: the only reason why Lukashenka is supported in Russia is because they understand that whoever comes to his place will most likely not want to look towards Russia. And to prevent this from happening, in Russia they even agree that the brotherly Belarusian people should live in a concentration camp.

This will make the brotherly Belarusian people look away from the Russian Federation. Vicious circle

[New Year day]

Quote: Gost2012

This will make the brotherly Belarusian people look away from the Russian Federation

Not this will force, but given definitions, such as "baboons". Who are you? Well of wisdom? So why are they so smart with such salaries and pensions?

[Pavel73]

What is common between Belarus and a concentration camp?

[military_cat]

Quote: Pavel73

What is common between Belarus and a concentration camp?

Let's save you and my time and you just write right away that everything was filmed in Hollywood?

[Alekseev]

Luke himself is to blame for the situation. His schizophonia (Kolya and chatter), a pathological fear of losing "sovereignty," however, is fully explained by the unwillingness to lose personal power, the desire to sit on two chairs and have what we have.
But here the huge people need to explain, for the especially stupid, that you can not replace Luka with some kind of woman.
After all, the sea of ​​examples will only get worse, especially for those who are now waiting at home and think that they will not be touched.

[Selenium]

Complete nonsense. Whoever comes, relations with Russia will be fraternal.

[Region68]

No ... Russians just have their own kind in power and therefore, over the years of propaganda, they were convinced that * tsar father * is good ..

[pereselenec]

Quote: Alex777

https://lenta.ru/news/2020/08/14/tarakan/

Quote: Alex777

tarakan

Ahahaha

[gost2012]

Quote: Dead Day

The Central Election Commission of the Republic of Belarus rejected the complaints of Lukashenka's rivals, and MTZ workers joined the strike

in the "State Department" burns! MTZ has already connected, and doctors, and some policemen, and Belaz ...

Naftan today too

[syndicalist]

Belazovites, they say, personally, Soros handed out cookies

[gost2012]

Quote: syndicalist

Belazovites, they say, personally, Soros handed out cookies

so he, it seems, still dodged at MAZ and MZKT, and yesterday in the morning he already visited the electrical engineering one, and even ran through the regions ..

[forty-eighth]

Judging by the cons, not everyone caught the irony A subtle joke is a great joke

[Kisa]

but here the Lukashevites are still fiercely minus. do not want to see reality.
on the weekend we'll see how much will come out with the Internet on and yesterday's ban on bestial violence

[Vadivak]

Quote: Dead Day

already connected MTZ and doctors,

Oppositionists will come and carry out a reform of medicine - doctors will remain without work, MTZ will be rented out as warehouses with fired vodka, and these donkeys will remember how good life was with the dad. As we are in the Union.

[Romka]

Yes, there is something like that: they were forced to sign, sing the anthem, shout "Glory to the OMON", "I love Lukashenko." In general, we did everything to make the people see what stability is worth.

[iouris]

And in the morning they woke up: Lukashenka has six terms already - “Lukashenka”: okay, if it was the third term.
Why was it necessary to wait for the announcement of the election results? The elections took place and the results were announced the next day. You just need to announce other results. It didn't work out.
At least the first one killed is a suicide. The police are the police to suppress the riots.
Now the crisis and no one is waiting for Belarusians anywhere. We will have to move gradually (slowly), with or without Lukashenko (this is not a matter of principle), or all the achievements of Belarus will be nullified and the country will roll far back. Competitors will be delighted.

[Thrifty]

Citizen-bow, of course, not honey, he is still a hypocrite, but the change of power to a Trojan horse is the death of the economy of Belarus, which is not very much alive now! Profiting all production is as easy as shelling pears, and then what? How will millions of Belarusians survive in market conditions? Will they not have their own Chubaisyatina in power, which will consider the whole people of Belarus to be losers and mouths that are unnecessary for the market, with negative consequences for the people of Belarus that will come out of this?

[Grazdanin]

Luka will not be able to bring the economy of Belarus out of the crisis. He doesn't know, the world has changed, he hasn't. The longer he is in power, the stronger the crisis will be. It's the same with us.

[bar]

Luka will not be able to bring the economy of Belarus out of the crisis. He doesn't know, the world has changed, he hasn't. The longer he is in power, the stronger the crisis will be.

Down with the onion crisis !!! Long live democracy and the bloody hand of the market !!!
Russia at one time took a sip of this gomna to its fullest (although the young growing up, who did not find the 90s, again strives to enter this shit), and the Belarusians have yet to do it. Smearing snot, they will remember both the crisis and the "concentration camp" ...

[Fan-fan]

Show this picture here for the Zaputin people more often, let them see how cool Putin and Lukashenko rule - "two boots - a pair", economic growth rates are in last place.

[V1er]

Ukraine also pleased Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. Well, not 10 GDP growth?) Or 20? And in general, we in Russia love all these GDP, the average salary and other schedules, although they are not reflected in the real standard of living. There are no more factories from them, wages do not grow. So it's better not to embarrass yourself with such pictures.

[Fungus]

Only citizens of these countries go to work in Russia to feed their families. Therefore, the percentage of GDP is about nothing.

[awg75]

especially impressive are Ukruina, Georgia and the Baltic tigers. And Tajikistan and Armenia, in general, is similar to Switzerland. Autor, you are a clown.

[spirit]

And who brought this economy to the brink? The main part of income is transit and processing of hydrocarbons, agriculture is vaunted, makes the turnover less than the Baltic countries

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: Thrifty

Citizen-bow, of course, not honey, he is still a hypocrite, but the change of power to a Trojan horse is the death of the economy of Belarus, which is not very much alive now! Profiting all production is as easy as shelling pears, and then what? How will millions of Belarusians survive in market conditions? Will they not have their own Chubaisyatina in power, which will consider the whole people of Belarus to be losers and mouths that are unnecessary for the market, with negative consequences for the people of Belarus that will come out of this?

I don’t understand - where did you all get such confidence? "protruding", "negative" ... You don't even know your Russian language, but all the same, in the "experts".

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Grazdanin

Lukashenka and his Caudle do not understand what they are doing. To announce the results before the weekend, before the funeral of those killed, during the mass actions of the factory workers is to sign a verdict for yourself.

I understand your emotions, maybe they are fair, not for me to judge, but I just want to say without emotion that everyone has the right to strike. But only if a factory is on strike in the USA or in the West, then the strikers are defended by powerful trade unions that will protect their workers, the same trade unions provide material assistance to the strikers, and there are also sponsors supporting them. The state also helps the strikers. But with you everything, and vice versa, let's start from behind, the state will not support you, because you are against the state, you have no sponsors, and the trade unions are not able to defend. The shop owner goes on strike, he does it at his own expense, but there is no help for the worker.

[Grazdanin]

I am a citizen of Russia. The truth is, who has not already been recorded. The truth is, everything that you wrote This is about us. In the United States, people have defended and defend their rights with arms in hand. Only after this did the system of checks and balances emerge. It doesn't work any other way.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Grazdanin

In the United States, people have defended and defend their rights with arms in hand.

I understood thank you, for the citizen of Russia "plus". But how Americans, whites defend their rights, I've seen for a month

[Grazdanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

this is how Americans, whites defend their rights I see

And how many were killed during the riots in the United States and peaceful protests in Belarus?
There are dozens of peaceful protests in the United States a day, they are not even paid attention to.
And White defends himself like this:

Guess what they would do if their police behaved like in Belarus?

[K-612-O]

Do you have a diagnosis or a minimum education?

[Overlock]

Quote: Grazdanin

Quote: tihonmarine
this is how Americans, whites defend their rights I see


And how many were killed during the riots in the United States and peaceful protests in Belarus?
There are dozens of peaceful protests in the United States a day, they are not even paid attention to.
And White defends himself like this:


Guess what they would do if their police behaved like in Belarus?

it looks like Belarusians will soon begin to defend themselves this way too

[Cristall]

Quote: Grazdanin

Guess what they would do if their police behaved like in Belarus?

most likely the National Guard and the Armed Forces would use armored vehicles and helicopters.
Citizens may be eligible to have a shooter. But heavy armored vehicles, aviation and navy are only a state.
Were there not many riots using civilian weapons?
Special forces, armored vehicles, National Guard, helicopters have an advantage.

[halpat]

uncle will go for a walk along the streets and avenues?
how it turns out predicted for himself.

[RUSS]

The Belarusian security forces lowered their shields in solidarity with the protesters on Independence Square in the center of Minsk, TASS reports.

Earlier, employees of the internal troops in Belarus lined up in front of the Government House in Minsk, where thousands of people rally for the resignation of the current President of the country Alexander Lukashenko is being held.

In response to the actions of the security forces, demonstrators immediately rushed to them. They hugged the military, gave them flowers, the protesters chant "The police are with the people!"

[Dali]

Quote: RUSS

The Belarusian security forces lowered their shields in solidarity with the protesters on Independence Square in the center of Minsk, TASS reports.

As a sign of solidarity, or did someone just realize that there would be no excesses at the moment and gave an order?

[Navel]

Lukashenka knows what he is doing.
Having looked at Belarusian sites at the beginning of the year, I thought that the Syabrs do not really understand Russia. But I did not understand the main thing - we do not understand Blue-eyed. Our understanding of life goes through the prism of Russian reality. For example, if someone is imprisoned, then there is evidence of guilt, if the president, then the sovereign's husband.
This is not the case in Belarus. There are de facto no laws and no legislative power. Have you ever heard about their parliament and its lawmaking?))) They simply do not exist. There are no courts, or rather there is an imitation of them. Are you waiting for any proof of the guilt of our guys? They won't. Are you waiting for an explanation of the spin of the Russian bank? Naive.
It has always been that way. They just didn't notice. Remember on the edge of your memory - wrung out Russian trucks, political murders ...
Is Lukashenko a funny kolkhoz president? Tell this to the relatives of those who are constantly missing in this country. Rather, they are taken on the street by strong people in civilian clothes in cars without numbers. And nobody else sees them. Not funny anymore?
With the arrested presidential candidates and Russians, it will not work quietly. Therefore, perhaps they are alive.
Luka has no way out. Resignation for him is a criminal trial. There are no options.

[K-612-O]

Here's a seed for you

Andrei Vajra: I love listening to idiots who talk in a daze about how the people (Serbian / Georgian / Ukrainian / Syrian / Belarusian, etc.), in a single impulse, spontaneously jumped out into the street and staged protests all over the country with massacre, fittings, "Molotov cocktails" and other violent crap in the name of freedom, equality, fraternity and justice ...
And there are still people who believe in spontaneous, spontaneous, but at the same time well-organized riots, Maidans and coups.
There are still people who believe that mass events are possible without funding and experienced organizers.
There are still people who consider the amazing synchrony of the riots with the support of foreign politicians, diplomatic missions and the media to be an accident.
Well, okay, the world has always been full of idiots ...

[Overlock]

Quote: K-612-O

the world has always been full of idiots ...

how nice it feels to be the only smart one

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: K-612-O

I love listening to idiots

And I adore listening (although no, I don’t adore) idiots who avidly tell Belarusians how to live.
Come on, teach the unreasonable rams how to enter the stall and not bleat. If only the grass is tasty.
The crown of the "big brother" clearly presses you.

[Dali]

Quote: pro100y.belarus

The crown of the "big brother" clearly presses you.

And what does the elder brother have to do with it ?! Explain in more detail!

[tank64rus]

Here the question is for those who write everything according to the State Department's manual. Funeral of those killed and where is the list with full name. here. As for the mass actions, if the plant workers want to become unemployed during 2020, after they help Lukashenka leave, please. Only later, when you clean the toilet for a Polish master or look for work in Russia, do not say that the people have been cheated again, as in Ukraine.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Aha ... So the prisoners, Georgians and ukrointsy moved from BelAZ to MTZ? What nimble ...

[Blackmokona]

They multiply by division and actively fill more and more new enterprises.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Moved from BelAZ to MTZ? What nimble.

The main supplier of news from the streets of Minsk and other cities of Belarus is the Nexta Live channel. Channel and channel Nexta, no prefix. But the basic one is the channel with the Live prefix in the name. The most operative videos from the scene appear there. And it is there that plans for a protest are published - at what time and where to gather for a rally, when to start a strike, and so on. In Egypt, too, it was like that, we were surprised at first, and then explained. For those who are illiterate, they launch some kind of colored ball, and the whole crowd goes there. Take away your mobile and internet, everything will stop the next day.

[syndicalist]

Quote: tihonmarine

Take away your mobile and internet, everything will stop the next day.

That's for sure. The next day, without the Internet, even those who usually did not want to know anything other than a sofa, instagram and aliexpress will dump out into the street. And everything will really end. Just not the way you think.

[New Year day]

Quote: tihonmarine

Remove mobile and internet

The first 3 weren't. What is the result? 3 and 4 days and nights are the most violent

[pereselenec]

Quote: tihonmarine

But the basic one is the channel with the Live prefix in the name.

Why is the "prefix" in the back then?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: pereselenec

Why is the "prefix" in the back then?

Open the web and read. There is both, with and without a prefix. Think about what and where.

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: tihonmarine

Take away your mobile and internet, everything will stop

The authorities miscalculated with this. They thought they could clean up the protest by force. Even the Internet was turned off and the journalists were jailed. But zilch came out. Every student now has a smartphone filming a video. The footage of the punitive lawlessness instantly hit the network and showed the entire bestial essence of power.
Glory to the advanced technologies!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: pro100y.belarus

The authorities miscalculated with this.

Understand that capitalism, after 1848, understood that it needed to be fought. And he won the last battle, but not the next one ..

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: pro100y.belarus

The authorities miscalculated with this.

Understand that capitalism, after 1848, understood that it needed to be fought. And he won the last battle, but not the next one ..

Do you consider Lukashenka a socialist? Oh well.
Eighteen residences, maybach, tesla, helicopters, well, everything, straight, like Stalin's - boots and a pipe.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: pro100y.belarus

Do you consider Lukashenka a socialist? Oh well.

I am writing to you about capitalism, and you are about socialism. Well, figure out which is which. I'm already tired of reading an educational program.

[Dali]

Quote: pro100y.belarus

Glory to the advanced technologies!

And where are these hundreds of videos of punishing lawlessness?

[spirit]

Naturally, the Zhidomassons thought of everything 100 years ago. Here is a vivid example immediately visible as a sleeping State Department agent thrown here 60 years ago.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: spirit

Naturally, the Zhidomassons thought of everything 100 years ago.

You probably forgot to write zeros.

[K-612-O]

You don't know how to read or go ... t?
This is not an insult, but honey. term

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: K-612-O

You don't know how to read or go ... t?
This is not an insult, but honey. term

, donkey and ram are also not an insult, but cute pets. And the deer is generally combined with the word - noble.

[210ox]

Kakaly, solemnly hand them your rake.

[Prjanik]

Well, they will lose their factories, it's not scary, because then you can work on Polish beds, toilets and highways following the example of the inhabitants of the country that won the Maydaun.

[Romka]

This is their decision - the decision of ordinary workers.

[frols]

There is such a city of Dugavpils in Latvia not far from the Belarusian border. Once there was 130 thousand population, now it is good if 70-80 people are typed, and even then a third of them are visitors from farms and towns when a profession was needed, Latvians came running. There were factories and even of union significance. , now either ruins or small workshops with foreign owners. I really would not want such a fate for Belarus, Lukashenko is of course still that pepper, but the West is not the place where you should strive.

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Quote: frols

There is such a city of Dugavpils in Latvia not far from the Belarusian border. Once there was 130 thousand population, now it is good if 70-80 people are typed, and even then a third of them are visitors from farms and towns when a profession was needed, Latvians came running. There were factories and even of union significance. , now either ruins or small workshops with foreign owners. I really would not want such a fate for Belarus, Lukashenko is of course still that pepper, but the West is not the place where you should strive.

You will probably be surprised, here in Siberia, in particular in the city of Barnaul, the same thing ... There were factories and even of the union value, now either ruins or small workshops.

[V1er]

You will probably be surprised, here in Siberia, in particular in the city of Barnaul, the same thing ... There were factories and even of the union value, now either ruins or small workshops.

Factories disappeared from all over the post-Soviet space when the protesters removed the annoying USSR, Scoop, and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. So many years ruled ?! - tired !. We live worse than in the west! We want democracy, jeans, capitalism, let's live! What, healed? Or are they all bad again, and we are unhappy? We take away Putin or Lukashenko, where are the guarantees that it will not be like the collapse of the USSR? 90s, then separatism and alienation of territories, death of the remaining enterprises and businesses, famine and war. Where are the guarantees? The United States will probably turn away and such "oh, let them figure it out, we'll see. Well, they'll make a good country, we'll be happy." No, these bastards are the first to get in. As it was already 100 times and will be 100, they will fit in and everything is ...
I would also like to add that I do not like the president and I voted for other candidates in all elections.

[K-612-O]

Damn, you can't put 100 pluses

[syndicalist]

Yes, except for Moscow and a couple of other cities, we have such a barnaul everywhere. I myself walk past the ruins of my factory every day.

[K-612-O]

Do not confuse the chamber, the main thing is

[_Sergei_]

I'm from Rubtsovsk. Almaz wanted to move his entire production to Barnaul. But it was besieged in time and is already starting the fifth production. And the salaries are not bad.

[Overlock]

Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT

You will probably be surprised, in Siberia, in particular in the city of Barnaul, the same thing ...

be careful, the opponent will run out of arguments, he will go out.
That

Quote: frols

... the city of Dugavpils in Latvia ..

you can show off, postebatsya, and here is the same in Russia.

[New Year day]

Quote: frols

west is not the place to go.

And where are the Belarusians' requirements for association with the EU? Have not seen. The requirement is uniqueness in elections. And you don't need to substitute one for another

[cat Rusich]

Juan Guaidó does not require an "association with the EU" either - he will simply "lie" directly under the US.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Romka

This is their decision - the decision of ordinary workers.

This we know from the founders "Workers of all countries unite", it was even written on all paper banknotes.

[K-612-O]

Only Sylvester shouldn't talk about it.
He's probably still singing international

[Prisoner]

Aha "simple". The administration hopes that it will privatize everything on the sly, and that the simple ones will get their butts and will then scratch their turnips, so they felled the fool. There is a handful of "ordinary" people and a crowd of people who cannot even look a month ahead.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Romka

This is their decision - the decision of ordinary workers.

In Poland, Romania, the USSR, miners were used as a ram to break the regime. And after the victory, the miners were the first to find unemployment and poverty.
If such a prospect does not frighten MTZ workers, the flag is in their hands.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Romka

This is their decision - the decision of ordinary workers.

Is it workers, or are you laughing ??????

[Dali]

Quote: Romka

This is their decision - the decision of ordinary workers.

The photo clearly shows the solution ?!

[K-612-O]

With order ribbons

[tihonmarine]

Quote: K-612-O

With order ribbons

He is wearing a protective tunic, and the order is red on his chest ...

[Trevis]

What kind of freedom do they want? Is it lace?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Trevis

What kind of freedom do they want? Is it lace?

Either Zadornov or Zhvanetsky. "Freedom is equal to the length of the taut leash. The leash is released, the bowl is pushed back, the leash is pulled, the bowl is pushed."

[Trevis]

I'm not a fan of my father at all. But I doubt very much that a decent person will come instead. Although, of course, he will blow such that there are no words)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Trevis

I'm not a fan of my father at all. But I doubt very much that a decent person will come instead.

I think so too when I wrote about the leash.

[New Year day]

Quote: Trevis

What kind of freedom do they want?

Freedom from at least this

[K-612-O]

Uh-huh! You must be able to work! Think of Moscow last year.

[Dali]

Quote: Silvestr

Freedom from at least this

Describe the event in the photo - what it was, when, where is the time, and, preferably without inventing it, but with real evidence ... because this photo can say anything.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Trevis

What kind of freedom do they want?

I used to think Freedom? And now I realized, "Guys, this very freedom, let Albert Einstein explain to you." And I have nothing to do with it.

[Mouse]

Our president (after a long pause - approx. "VO") - Tikhanovskaya.

did you remember your last name?

[Romka]

May be. After all, people did not vote for, but against.

[viber]

This is stupid on the part of the CEC. The conversations in the election commissions of the heads of executive committees about rewriting the final results in favor of Lukashenka have already been posted on the Internet. By such actions, they only add fuel to the fire.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: viber

The conversations in the election commissions of the heads of executive committees about rewriting the final results in favor of Lukashenka have already been posted on the Internet.

Well, yes, I also say that there are stupid people in all CECs. And here they are the same "tsikachi", immediately after the elections they began to shout in the streets "Results are in favor of Lukashenka!" Well at least they don't shout at the Air Force.

[New Year day]

Quote: tihonmarine

that in all CECs there are stupid

Do you have doubts? There are already several thousand TEC protocols on the Internet, and there the results are not in favor of Luka. And the accountants are recognized in the postscripts. What to do about it?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Silvestr

There are already several thousand TEC protocols on the Internet, and there the results are not in favor of Luka.

I believe everyone, but I never believe the media!

[Overlock]

Quote: tihonmarine

I believe everyone, but I never believe the media

believe your eyes

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Overlock

believe your eyes

Sorry, what do I see ???

[Overlock]

Quote: tihonmarine

Sorry, what do I see ???

He who has ears, let him hear, he who has eyes, let him see

[K-612-O]

So the videos of the opposition on planning the seizures of city administrations were posted

[Livonetc]

Let's redo a little old.

Oles, have you heard how our president's masked Tikhanovskaya cry?
No, how? ...
Lukashenko !!! ...

[nobody111body]

not enough money is being thrown by a handful of American Jews in order to remove such a powerful leader as Lukashenko - a coup in the same Israel with the displacement of a certain netanyho will cost the Belarusians less

[made13]

When the union was falling apart, everyone dreamed of having 100 varieties of sausage in stores (I don't know why exactly 100). Nobody knew that there would be sausage (mostly made of shit, of course), but there would be no money to buy it. There will be no factories, research institutes, jobs will be lost ...
People will survive. People always survive like cockroaches, but society will die. And how many ordinary people will die - pensioners, simple hard workers who have lost their jobs and do not know what to do next?
Thanks to the dad, Belarus is what it is now - with industry, agriculture, and a socially oriented society.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions, gentlemen protesters.

[Romka]

Not thanks. but contrary to

[mark2]

Not thanks. but contrary to

Do not write nonsense.
In your words, the people have preserved everything that is in Balarusia. It was he who kept the factories where he works only for a salary, and the owner skims the cream. It was the people who kept the social guarantees, about which the Deperambs sing here. And dad has nothing to do with it. He's so. Time is serving. And the government just to receive salaries. And the coordination of everything and everything itself happens at the behest of the pike or by the wave of a magic wand?

[cat Rusich]

Denis, "g o v n o" costs money - water is added to the "sausage" - and they call it a MEAT PRODUCT. Thanks to "Old Man" Belarus has discounts for "everything and everyone" from Russia, loans from Russia (which it does not plan to repay) and the sales market - Russia.

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: made13

there were 100 varieties of sausages in stores

Well, how about the sausage now? Available in stores? Is there enough money to buy it?
After all, they gave birth in torment and pain. And now you gorge yourself on sausage.
You can't measure your life with one sausage. There is something more important.

[Dali]

Quote: pro100y.belarus

Well, how about the sausage now? Available in stores? Is there enough money to buy it?
After all, they gave birth in torment and pain. And now you gorge yourself on sausage.
You can't measure your life with one sausage. There is something more important.

So with you it will be with your Tikhanovskys and others like them. Only an order of magnitude worse than ours.

[Irek]

In the West, they have already raised a howl, they spread rot on the Evil One.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Irek

In the West, they have already raised a howl, they spread rot on the Evil One.

So I don’t understand why they are spreading rot? Here in the states themselves, the revelry of passions is worse than in Belarus, but everything is quiet and peaceful, like "but everything is calm at the cemetery, and a snack is on the hillock." This is a prelude, but a statement
serious.

"US President Donald Trump should be a candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize for achievements in a peaceful settlement, including between Israel and the UAE," said his national security adviser Robert O'Brien.
"If you look at what this president has done to achieve peace, I would not be surprised if it takes some time in the current situation, but I would not be surprised if the president is eventually nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize."

,
O'Brien's words. He can also nominate Alexander Grigorych for the same prize, he is much softer and more humane than theirs. There is no such lawlessness as in the states in Belarus yet. Put a minus who was offended, it will become clearer who is against whom, and for whom.

[svp67]

Tikhanovskaya has already announced the formation of the "Committee for the Transfer of Power", which is an indirect sign that Western countries do not recognize the results of these elections ...

[viber]

The creation of any committees that will be located in Lithuania is a farce. They will not give anything for the transformation of power

[iouris]

Quote: svp67

Western countries do not recognize the results of these elections ...

"Western countries" are Poland and Lithuania, and the "Baltic Tigers" who have joined them. Their horizons are close, but there are no resources. Behind Poland is Washington, but there is also its own North American Lukashenko, who will be overthrown a little, and he will suppress them a little. It is also interesting and you can intervene, give free advice.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: svp67

Tikhanovskaya has already announced the formation of the "Committee for the transfer of power

Lukashenko and Tikhanovskaya, Maduro and Guaido, Yeltsin and Zyuganov and what came of it.

[tralflot1832]

Yes, not everything is working out for the protestors. Victoria is not present with her cookies. Help from intermediaries is only in providing political asylum. Grygorich has no assets abroad. I am wondering how to put pressure on the President of Belarus to leave. And as a countryside, I suspect today Friday will do business and that is better.

[vitvit123]

You can always put pressure on ... a country that has nothing ... no resources, no money, not even an outlet to the sea (there are other countries from all sides), etc. Russia of course can again contain these 9,5 million people. , but Luka recently opened his face and many saw him and his effective Lucanomics ..

[tralflot1832]

Maybe that's why Lukashenka holds on for so long because Belarus has nothing tasty, only the border with Russia. What the dad plays all the time. The VP took Stanislav's pause. What will happen? The weekend will show? If only there were no sacral victims.

[aleks26]

Recall that from some EU countries, statements are heard about the need to either recount the votes, or to hold repeated elections. In fact, this is direct interference in the internal affairs of Belarus.

In this particular case, it would probably be worthwhile to respond a little more sharply, for example, by breaking off diplomatic relations with the same Lithuania and the Czech Republic. With the Poles it will not work, their own will not understand. And with these, everything can be done painlessly for Belarus.

[Revival]

How can this not work with the Poles?
80% support, but the pride of the country, and the principles?
No, no pathetic compromises

[tralflot1832]

It is enough to invite ambassadors to the Belarusian Foreign Ministry to the carpet. They do not understand, call their ambassador for consultations, there are many options.

[Kisa]

so it goes to this. if elections are not recognized in Europe - what status will the country have? how it works ? what is the representative in the un? embassies? how is transnistria or what?

[Sanichsan]

Quote: aleks26

With the Poles it will not work, their own will not understand.

with these first of all you need to break.

[GUSAR]

I wonder where is this 80% for Lukashenka?

[tralflot1832]

Representatives of 80% of the percent, while dubbing, the remaining 20% ​​explain who won the elections. Why do they pay taxes. Whoever is obliged to protect the constitutional order, he is doing this on taxes of 80%.

[New Year day]

Quote: GUSAR

Where is this 80% for Lukashenka?

Have you seen them - in black and with clubs

[Operator]

Journalistic investigation of Komsomolskaya Pravda on the joint operation of the SBU and the KGB to distribute 33 former employees of Wagner PMC on behalf of allegedly Rosneft and a dummy Belarusian company
https://www.crimea.kp.ru/daily/217165/4266019/

Russophobe Rygorych grew so fat on smuggling that his hands on his belly do not converge, and his eyes became piggy

[georggy]

Got drunk and go nuts from a quiet life.
Do you want adrenal? Will be.

[Ruswolf]

Dear protesters of Belarus, there are no vacancies for farm laborers and servants in Poland, and the vacancies for prostitutes have ended, as well. All seats are occupied by Ukrainian specialists.
In the next 100 years, we ask you not to organize the Maidans.

[Brturin]

Quote: Ruswolf

Dear protesters of Belarus, in Poland there are no working vacancies for farm laborers and servants, .. All the places are occupied by Ukrainian specialists

Everything would be so if Germany did not adopt a law that simplifies employment from 2020 (it seems that those migrants, about whom there was so much talk, do not really want to work) and when the Poles found out about this there was such a reaction

“This is a huge threat to the Polish economy. Within two to three months, the staff gap will grow from 165 thousand to more than 500 thousand vacancies, ”said the head of the Polish recruiting agency Krzysztof Inglot. So, there is an outflow of Ukrainian workers to Germany, which plans to open its labor market for employees outside the European Union. A study by the Work Service shows that 59% of Ukrainians can leave Poland. https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5bd80ac29a7947985c872a6a

So far, the coronavirus, but the closure of the borders has shown how "shitty" the same agriculture in Poland and the Baltic States without them. I hope the coronavirus will end and Germany will open up, but labor is needed ...

[prior]

Well, brothers-Belarusians.
You are tired of the Old Man - someone else's uncle will come.
And a new life will come on the Belarusian land, but the majority will not like it at all.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Watching the vote count of the first commentators.
Commentator FOR zmagarov: FOR-1, AGAINST-4, result - minus 1.
Commentator AGAINST zmagars: FOR-5, AGAINST-2, result - plus 2.
And then the same picture.
QUESTION TO THE MODERATORS: where does such a strange calculation in favor of zmagars come from?

[soloveyav]

Statistics are not updated immediately, but when the page is refreshed.

[loki565]

So it's time to urgently restore VTZ, with a new line of tractors)))

[Anton S]

Only MTZ? Fresh information

[master 52]

Lukashenka played too much. but quiet is also not an option, just people will be deceived again and other corrupt guys will come to power and the country will be taken away, that's all.

[aleks26]

Quote: master 52

Lukashenka played too much. but quiet is also not an option, just people will be deceived again and other corrupt guys will come to power

Well, it was noticed for a long time that romantics make the revolution, and villains use the fruits of the revolution.

[Ruswolf]

Quote: aleks26

Well, it was noticed for a long time that romantics make the revolution, and villains use the fruits of the revolution.

That's why the revolution is a bloody girl! She devours her parents.

[Revival]

"Meanwhile, protests and strikes continued in Belarus. The workers of MTZ joined the strike. At the same time, the workers put forward openly political demands, up to" removing the illegitimate president and calling new elections. "

As I understand it, these are the very same State Department fosterlings who receive grants directly from Soros, the very 5th column, and not a real common people.
Well, the common people cannot be made up of workers, these are just pro-Western aligarchs ...

[hhhhhhh]

You stood up for the Emergency Committee? in my time? We were fools then, and they were on the second round, like Ukrainians.
Soon Belarusian partisans will be declared enemies of civilized Europe and banned from wearing orders.

[Revival]

That is, well, in any way in the hiring of the State Department you can not stick? Clear...
Well then, fools ...
But what else, if they don't fit into the template in any way

[aleks26]

Although it sounds right
"Every revolution is conceived by romantics, carried out by fanatics, and inveterate scoundrels use its fruits" (Thomas Carlyle.)
But this is not the case this time. Far from being thought of by romantics, they are not carried out by fanatics, but by paid fighters, but about fruits and villains to the point!

[vitvit123]

I hate Luka very much, but I think that if he is thrown off, there will be a second Ukraine .. I don’t even know yet, maybe it’s for the better, maybe finally everyone will see that any brothers very quickly become enemies, as well as in families .. all, they separated from us long ago. I always said that if they join, they will not live worse, but most likely they will live better. But here many people started talking to me about the Russian aligarhs and how they should immediately do something bad with the most working people in the world. Today we are brothers, tomorrow the Poles, our "relatives" will change very quickly. The most important oligarch and opponent of unification with the Russian Federation, it has always been Luka!

[V1er]

Russia's policy in relation to the former territories was also not so hot. What has been done in these 27 years? Nothing. There is no Russian influence, Russian candidates, meetings with the tricolor and demands for friendship with Russia, pro-Russian cops and businessmen who would put pressure on the authorities to meet halfway. Even damn it, there are pro-Russian businessmen in Germany who wrote complaints that they did not want sanctions, that they needed an SP-2, appealed to the government, because there is a lot of money, benefits, and so on. In Ukraine, for example, they simply shot themselves in the leg, chopping off a large market and enterprises, losing a lot of money and jobs. The same is happening with Belarus.

[Overlock]

Quote: V1er

What has been done in these 27 years? Nothing.

who was in the way? Or did they not consider it necessary? - Let's agree?

[gost2012]

Right now, the Kremlin is losing its last ally, once and for all. You, the Russians, have the majority of the Maidan and the cues of the brain. You are pulling this tracing paper over us like an owl on a globe. This is your mental trauma. You do not see the obvious - the people themselves, from below, do not want AHL. And okay you are here, but in the Kremlin you are a pro ...
With the support of AGL, the Kremlin is killing the last traces of the Russian world in Belarus. Tell VVP now that the AHL must resign and new elections are needed, and I will give observers - 2/3 of the population would be for the Russians, if VVP had such guarantees - and Belarus would be at its feet.
If the support of the AHL continues, this will never be forgiven to Russia in the Republic of Belarus, and so far everything is going exactly towards this. So forget about the Union and the Republic of Belarus, this is almost impossible, and the BCHB has already become a symbol of protest ...

[hhhhhhh]

Don't worry about the Russians. You worry that as soon as Old Man leaves, they will sign the EU agreement, close all the factories and you will go to the gentlemen to work as a laborer.
It's better for us, we don't need to feed another republic.

[gost2012]

Quote: hhhhhhh

Don't worry about the Russians. You worry that as soon as Old Man leaves, they will sign the EU agreement, close all the factories and you will go to the gentlemen to work as a laborer.
It's better for us, we don't need to feed another republic.

most likely it will be, do I mind? but what are you glad about, brother?

[hhhhhhh]

Where are the emoticons? But the people cannot be stopped, they are strong with soviet dreams.
As soon as the Georgians came out in support, they immediately had to go out to the Belarusians and disperse this shobla, and then state their claims.

[vitvit123]

We have not remembered the joke of your dad with the union for a long time! There are other options that don't require your opinion ..

[V1er]

If the support of the AHL continues, then Russia will never be forgiven in the Republic of Belarus, and so far everything is moving towards this. So forget about the Union and the Republic of Belarus.

You will have no choice when the AHL leaves. Another candidate will come and say that Russia is an enemy, the Russians are bad and your mood will change quickly. The information will be presented so beautifully that even the most ossified lover of Russia will wear a coward with an American flag. Even here, some are sitting and screening comments, gloating that the Russians have betrayed them, do not allow democracy and freedom to flourish, do not support. Offended. It is easy to change people's opinion with the help of the Internet and TV. Groups will appear that will post the evil Russians and eternal interventions. And the motive for this will be: Belarus has abandoned totalitarian Russia and went into the bosom of elven Europe, Putin bites his fingers, because he dreamed of a new USSR. "Although no one here dreams of the past, we want a future. But this is a topic for another comment. ...

[Dali]

Quote: Gost2012

If the support of the AHL continues, this will never be forgiven to Russia in the Republic of Belarus, and so far everything is going exactly towards this. So forget about the Union and the Republic of Belarus, this is almost impossible, and the BCHB has already become a symbol of protest ..

Who will not forgive, are you ...? Are you going to answer for all the people? Don't take on a lot?
And Lukashenka has no other choice but to bring Belarus into the structure of Russia. And it's better, as in the good old days, by region.

[rocket757]

The old / new president himself created all this, and now he has stirred it all up!
You can't drown for it in any way, but without it, for us, everything can get much worse, it's obvious! Will it be better for the citizens of Belarus themselves ..... it's up to them to decide.
Now we can offer them something new ??? I really doubt it.

[Ruswolf]

Quote: rocket757

Now we can offer them something new ??? I really doubt it.

We can offer .... But as they say in the East - "Yes, he who has ears - let him hear!" Today half of Belarus has no ears. They do not want to hear anyone ... They have already fallen into the whirlpool and dropped their hands.
You cannot shout at a person who does not want to hear, and if he does, then only what he likes. Those who went to the strike, walked the streets, took the rebar - they want to hear that everyone called them and considered them patriots. So be it. But the heroes who defended the country ..... they will not.

[rocket757]

Quote: Ruswolf

Today half of Belarus has no ears. They don't want to hear anyone ...

And now ... let's be honest with ourselves, or just think carefully, WHO BROUGHT PEOPLE, SITUATION to such a state ???
Do you have an answer to this specific question?

[Ruswolf]

Quote: rocket757

And now ... let's be honest with ourselves, or just think carefully, WHO BROUGHT PEOPLE, SITUATION to such a state ???
Do you have an answer to this specific question?

My opinion is that not only Lukoshenko brought the country to this collapse.
The whole country is to blame. Some were satisfied, others were silent, others used ... But the basket was bathed in the rays of power.
When Lukashenka, with tacit consent, allowed the sanctioned products to be driven from Europe to Russia under the brand of Belarusian goods, everything was fine with everyone. When they resold Russian oil and coal to Ukraine, it was also fine. As soon as I began to change the polarity and realized that it was impossible to go side jo-oh on oncoming trains .... I immediately became displeasing.
But if the people were brought ... it does not mean that you need to take a stick. Because any apponent you are right or wrong will do the same. Every action is equal to reaction.

[rocket757]

Quote: Ruswolf

My opinion is that not only Lukoshenko brought the country to this collapse.

Not one, this is understandable .... BUT, he was the CHIEF OF THE PLATES there and constantly reminded everyone of that !!! that is why the first question, claims to him ... and to the rest, then!

[Ruswolf]

Quote: rocket757

that is why the first question, claims to him ... and to the rest, then!

HERE just in time for the rest of the pritenzy and will not.
This is called kicking a fallen lion. but only there are big doubts about the defeated one.
And I give 3 against one, that in 1-2 years, half of the VO who is now reviling him will either be silent or praise.
Not the first time.

[rocket757]

And how is it to "vilify"? Like he is bad, bad, bad, because he is simply BAD or is scolded FOR THE WORK, the one who is needed and for what it is necessary?
I, for example, scold VVP when FOR BUSINESS, but I do not say that he should leave, because the wise man SHOULD LEAVE!
In general, there is a subjective opinion and it is not that OBJECTIVE CRITICISM.
I, personally, consider this President of Belarus to be guilty of the deterioration of relations between our peoples. Him and his henchmen! I will never forgive him for that! And regarding the current elections, this must be decided by the people of Belarus themselves, our intervention is real, concrete, and will bring a lot of harm and problems, in any case.
Unfortunately, non-interference can do even more harm !!!
So, because of one clever sage, now there is no good way out for any of us .... for this, the tail must be shortened to someone, for the most, the most!

[Ruswolf]

Quote: rocket757

And regarding the current elections, this must be decided by the people of Belarus themselves, our intervention is real, concrete, and will bring a lot of harm and problems, in any case.

And what, is there anyone against?
With two hands "FOR"!
But in order for a decision to be made, protests in a rude form are necessary, so that they will be answered as well, and then off they go, who piled on whom more?
It's like when drunks arrange a showdown - they don't hear anyone or anything. Smart friends are bred to the sides until the morning. And then sort it out. And here they are also pushing to strike. This is not to stop the protest process. The workers know the problem is financial, and they are pushed into political issues.
This is definitely an intervention.
WHAT concerns my opinion - I am against violence. You cannot achieve a law - by lawlessness.
IMHO

P / S
Пwe are all talking here about the same but in different languages ​​and we go from different sides. Probably, despite similar positions, we do not understand each other ... or maybe we do not want to understand

[rocket757]

It happens that you can't look at the world only from your own bell tower.
I would like to, but it does not work, because I had to see the wrong side here and there.
Moreover, I don’t believe a single kopeck of that shot, I’m sure that we will shake off troubles with him much more than benefit, if we try to keep that body where a lot of harm has happened from it.
How to do now to neutralize the harm from that body ..... boom, hope that Mr. VVP has such a plan.
Boom to see.

[Ruswolf]

Quote: rocket757

Boom to see.

[Overlock]

Quote: Ruswolf

Lukoshenko brought the country to this collapse.

а

Quote: Ruswolf

The whole country is to blame.

strange! What is the fault? so that she was silent? So he planted and killed Lukashenka's competitors.
Therefore and

Quote: Ruswolf

the basket was bathed in the rays of power.

that there were no brakes

[gost2012]

Quote: Ruswolf

Quote: rocket757

Now we can offer them something new ??? I really doubt it.

We can offer .... But as they say in the East - "Yes, he who has ears - let him hear!" Today half of Belarus has no ears. They do not want to hear anyone ... They have already fallen into the whirlpool and dropped their hands.
You cannot shout at a person who does not want to hear, and if he does, then only what he likes. Those who went to the strike, walked the streets, took the rebar - they want to hear that everyone called them and considered them patriots. So be it. But the heroes who defended the country ..... they will not.

Who will be? Whoever falsified the election results and carried out (for the umpteenth time) the seizure of power, will he become a hero?

[Ruswolf]

Quote: Gost2012

Who will be? Whoever falsified the election results and carried out (for the umpteenth time) the seizure of power, will he become a hero?

You - personally, you have irrefutable facts or you, as a person who does not have his own opinion, brings other people's arguments and assumptions.
I do not want to offend you. I'm not a supporter of Lukoshenko. But to accuse you need facts, not arguments. I can understand that there was an investigation and there is an official conclusion to which you refer. .... Otherwise, you act like Ukraine - the plane was shot down by Russia - where the facts are - WE KNOW!
Elections - fraudulent - where the facts - WE ARE LOAN. The CEC said - THEY ARE LIE - where the facts are - WE KNOW
Well, the eslabs answered all the questions so that you would think.
Strikes and uncontrolled unorganized protests lead to Civil Wars. Where no one understands anything.
Question - Who needs it? The people of Belarus are not sure.
It's my opinion.

[gost2012]

Quote: Ruswolf

Quote: Gost2012

Who will be? Whoever falsified the election results and carried out (for the umpteenth time) the seizure of power, will he become a hero?

You - personally, you have irrefutable facts or you, as a person who does not have his own opinion, brings other people's arguments and assumptions ...
Question - Who needs it? The people of Belarus are not sure.
It's my opinion.

This is just my opinion, I was in the elections, I saw how many people came, there were kilometer-long queues in Minsk, for several hours, to vote. I saw the mood of people, many with bracelets, it's like a sign of Tikhanovskaya. Everyone knew how they voted. 1,2 million registered on the Voice platform - this is not for the AHL, but how many of them were not registered? And we have almost 6 million votes in total.
And it is precisely the people who are buzzing today. For the first time since the 90s, workers joined the protests, yesterday it started, and today the whole country went on strike. And this is without organization, in the same ranks and Nazis, and cotton wool, and lumpen, and pennies, and students and proletarians. And my opinion is the people.

[Ruswolf]

Quote: Gost2012

This is just my opinion, I was in the elections, I saw how many people came, there were kilometer-long queues in Minsk, for several hours, to vote.

Sorry .... Again Only you and your opinion .. only yours. You were at the same time at all polling stations in Minsk and other cities and at the same time sat in the CEC and at the same time interviewed all voters?
The fact that you have your own opinion - which you stand for - is worthy of respect. But this does not mean that your reasoning is correct.

Quote: Gost2012

And this is without organization, in the same ranks and Nazis, and cotton wool, and lumpen, and pennies, and students and proletarians. And my opinion is the people.

In Ukraine, in 2014, too, everyone was in the same ranks and shouters and silent and criminals and all - the people.
And everyone knew Pravda. How did it end ...
There are always more silent people ... But you know better the screamers!
IMHO

[Overlock]

Quote: Ruswolf

what was the investigation

Lukashenka's will is needed. Let the independent honorable and respected people of Belarus check the results and everything will fall into place. The question is, does Lukashenka want this?

[Ruswolf]

Quote: Overlock

Lukashenka's will is needed. Let the independent honorable and respected people of Belarus check the results and everything will fall into place. The question is, does Lukashenka want this?

Here you yourself half answered the question, Guilty or not in the follies. There was no investigation. Not any state, not dependent. - And the charge was brought before the results were officially announced.
Why is it that no one accuses Lukoshenko of the falsification of the charges?
Well yes!!! Honesty is above all. honest people blame. And the fact that without facts ... well, these are trifles.

[hhhhhhh]

Russians, let's see if this time the change of course to the West will bring a happy life.))))
History teaches that teaches nothing.

[vitvit123]

Also, to some extent, I wish that everything would work out for them, and then, looking at the experimental subjects, I can't do this for myself ..

[hhhhhhh]

We must prepare to disperse this party before they reach the riot police.

[mark2]

Russians, let's see if this time the change of course to the West will bring a happy life.))))

Of course we'll see. We are already watching.
The Belarusians' belief that they will succeed is touching. A lot of countries did not succeed, although some of them were even friends with the West (Libya, Iraq), but the Belarusians will succeed. It will definitely work out for them. I don't even know why such an impenetrable confidence.

[rocket757]

Do not hesitate, there will be those who will succeed !!! There won't be many of them ...

[mark2]

They won't eat them already. The same Tikhanovskaya, as the victim of the tyranny of the father, will be treated kindly in the West. True, you will have to work out for this, like everyone treated kindly, but this is another topic.

[rocket757]

Let's see what happens. Who will win, who will lose ...
Worse if EVERYONE loses! but this can also be.

[Galleon]

And what, it is impossible to change the government after the elections without destroying the economy and changing the country's political course? Yes, in principle, you can. What is needed for this? Do not throw the political field into your own concrete site and live according to the law of the country - then the power will pass not to rabid, who are the extreme who will remain and who are not averse to breaking the law, to organize riots and ask for help in this, but to normal law-abiding and correct opponents. It is not necessary to pose as irreplaceable, and it is not necessary to clean up this political field with concrete bonds and corruption. The property does not need to be taken away. Then nothing will fly upside down. And then, God forbid, of course, the most active and greedy will come to power, they will see factories and enterprises and do with them what they only know how to do with them: new loans - taking them abroad - the bankruptcy of normal operating enterprises and their ruin ... Lukashenka has put a barrier to this mechanism, but you cannot grab onto power for 20 years, so it is being demolished. It is a pity if this barrier is torn down with him, but he is partly to blame for this.
You can draw an analogy with another country with the same "chained slave", how he spreads rot and harasses his opponents, moreover, normal opponents who did not allow themselves to be plundered. Well, he will get rid of such opponents with his vertical, who will take their place? Those will rise who will say already out of hatred: let nothing be better than you will be as before. It can come to this.

[gost2012]

Quote: Galleon

... Those who will say already out of hatred will rise: let nothing be better than you will be as before. It can come to this.

+, but this is what is happening right now, has already come.

[Ruswolf]

Quote: Galleon

And what, it is impossible to make a change of power after the elections without destroying the economy and changing the country's political course

No you can not. After all, then it will not be possible to bring freedom to Belarus and give them democracy!

[New Year day]

Quote: Galleon

that it is impossible to change the government after the elections without destroying the economy and changing the country's political course?

Of course you can, but many do not understand this because of fears.
Therefore, they also want Putin to be eternal, and then mummify and stand in columns to his mausoleum. After all, only he alone knows the way to happiness and prosperity

[Ruswolf]

Quote: Silvestr

Of course you can, but many do not understand this because of fears.

Change economic development without destroying the political course - you can
It is impossible to change the political course without the collapse of the economy. (this is already a Revolutionary coup. And without a difference, peaceful or military).

[Dali]

Quote: Ruswolf

Change economic development without destroying the political course - you can
It is impossible to change the political course without the collapse of the economy. (this is already a Revolutionary coup. And without a difference, peaceful or military).

It's just that Sylvester is mostly an idealist, that's why he doesn't understand.

[Ruswolf]

Quote: Dali

It's just that Sylvester is mostly an idealist, that's why he doesn't understand.

Well no. Probably I read a lot of works by Plekhanov, the theoretician of Marxism. He wrote at one time that the change of autocracy and the arrival of a new economic system will occur naturally, that this is inevitable as a layer of pie. Therefore, Russia does not need revolutionary experiments.
Marxist! ... Yoshkin cat

[forty-eighth]

[media = https: //t.me/lentachold/33095]
They write that the military at the Government House lowered their shields.

[gost2012]

Quote: forty-eighth

[media = https: //t.me/lentachold/33095]
They write that the military at the Government House lowered their shields.

so no one attacks them, why hold them, these shields ... there are no potheads in the square, people only

[Alex 2020]

Right! Break, crash, don't work, you bastard ... and then go
fight in Europe for work in the beds with other European people from the countries of the victorious democracy. Because the industry and industry of your country is not needed by anyone there. And you are not competitors to them. They will destroy your everything. And in Europeans there are enough subsidized peasants (of a higher grade than you). But you will be without a tyrant and in lace panties.

[New Year day]

Quote: Alexey 2020

Break, crash, don't work, bastard

Who is doing this?

[gost2012]

So here we are:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdocC9McnjY

[Shilka]

Something I very much doubt that the workers of the largest enterprises in Belarus, preserved since the times of the USSR, suddenly go on strike .. Maybe a handful of. As in the streets of Minsk rabid thugs ..?
I now remember the 90s, how our workers were duped there .. So the owner will change, we will supply your products abroad for foreign currency. And we will pay you in foreign currency, we will build you a working village with European houses, cheap cars for you for foreign cars etc. ..Well, everyone handed over their shares and held rallies ..
VERDICT: The salary was delayed (as if the currency was stuck somewhere, you will be paid with interest)))) The result is neither salary nor a nickel plant, etc. BANKRUPTS and in general then dozens of owners were begging for loans from the state for modernization and then hiding in an unknown direction .. And many workers have already died and sn. they didn’t wait and even pay for the funeral .. And they yelled and even threw themselves into a fight when they were told that it was not purely something ..
Belarusians Wake up !!!!!! They want to rob you clean and then throw the raped and humiliated Russia at the feet of Russia ... because we no longer need it and owes a lot

[gost2012]

Quote: Shilka

Something I very much doubt that the workers of the largest enterprises in Belarus, preserved since the times of the USSR, suddenly go on strike .. Maybe a handful of. As in the streets of Minsk rabid thugs ..?

here, an hour ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlecWyTiU9Q

[Crane]

The result is no salary and no nickel plant, etc.
=====
A plant? Nickel? Producing expensive raw materials? Bankrupt? Which one? Explain.

[Crane]

The workers were turned into those who endured, while they were robbed, dumps from the times of the USSR ... The owners are Estonians and then others ... In short, the Khan's plant ...
========
So name the plant.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Galleon

Do not roll up the political field into your own concrete area and live according to the law of the country - then the power will not pass wildly,

Luca trampled all sane politicians down. There is no one to transfer power to.
All this will end very badly for him and for Belarus and for the Russian Federation.

[Dali]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

Luca trampled all sane politicians down. There is no one to transfer power to.
All this will end very badly for him and for Belarus and for the Russian Federation.

There is a way out, to become part of Russia. Then Lukashenka will be removed without any massacre!

[pereselenec]

It turns out somehow strange. The legitimate President Putin in the Russian Federation rewrote the Constitution for himself in order to rule to death. The legitimate President Lukashenko in Belarus mutilates and kills citizens who do not want him. And only the bloody Kiev junta held elections, admitted defeat and quietly went into opposition ...

[gost2012]

Quote: pereselenec

It turns out somehow strange. The legitimate President Putin in the Russian Federation rewrote the Constitution for himself in order to rule to death. The legitimate President Lukashenko in Belarus mutilates and kills citizens who do not want him. And only the bloody Kiev junta held elections, admitted defeat and quietly went into opposition ...

With the bloody junta, yes, it turned out somehow ugly ...

[Light]

Luka is far from these, aviation and artillery are not working on the protesters ..

[Cristall]

Quote: Gost2012

With the bloody junta, yes, it somehow turned out ugly ..

Wait and remember her quite rarely.
Although no positive news is still the main requirement for any news in Russia from Ukraine.

[Xenofont]

Meanwhile, the news claims that 32 out of 33 chop officers were returned to Russia. One was a citizen of Belarus

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Xenofont

Meanwhile, the news claims that 32 out of 33 chop officers were returned to Russia.

Lightning at "Russian Spring"! All the detained "32 heroes" are already in Russia! One had the citizenship of Russia and Belarus, and remained in Minsk.
Lukashenko said literally the following at the Sobbez: “Don't lean out into the streets now! Understand that you and our children are being used as cannon fodder! Today we have come in large numbers here from Poland, Holland, Ukraine, from this "Open Russia" of Navalny and so on and so forth. The aggression has already begun against the country. "

[Moskal 55]

Who were killed there? Is this the shooting of the Armed Forces in Moscow in 93 ?! And here one of his explosives was blown up, and the other was seriously ill. It's just that the whole liberal Caudle has tensed again. May God grant the Old Man strength and health! Get together you need to support him at the Embassy of the Republic of Belarus in Moscow. But it’s not good for me to organize!

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: Moskal 55

And here one of his explosives was blown up, and the other was seriously ill. It's just that the whole liberal Caudle has tensed again.

Again a victim of propaganda. There was nothing in his hands. A flash-bang grenade, thrown by maddened punishers, exploded in front of his face.

[Dali]

Quote: pro100y.belarus

Again a victim of propaganda. There was nothing in his hands. A flash-bang grenade, thrown by maddened punishers, exploded in front of his face.

Yeah, they threw it for fun ... where is the evidence ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

Luca will never say that:

[Viktor Sergeev]

Guys, we are with you. It's time to close the industry of Belarus. Almost only Russia buys tractors and cars from Belarus, their quality is poor, but we support them. Give a break in relations with Russia.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Belarus tse Ukraine №2. I didn’t think that the Belarusians were even dumber than the Ukrainians, even those Natsiks, and even 5 lards received on the Maidan, but these really don’t understand what would happen to their plant if Luka left.

[drroc]

Quote: Pavel73

Yanukovych became a victim of new methods of the West waging war against the Russian people. The methods are as follows. First, a hundred thousand rams are taken out into the street and a hundred of them are killed. And who exactly killed them, in general, does not matter. Then, with innocent faces, they come to the president and say: see what YOU have done? This is all because you do not fulfill the requirements of the people. These one hundred people are on your conscience. If you don't want new corpses, do what the people demand. Immediately a call comes from Washington, the second from Brussels, and they tell him about the same on the phone. That's how or something like that broke Yanukovych. And crowds of militants with machine guns in the presidential palace are the barbarism of the 20th century. The president is not to be killed. You need to kill the rams.

My God, what are you carrying. Today is my wife's birthday, I took a little on my chest from the table and I apologize if I say something wrong. It seems to me that many are talking nonsense. Yesterday and earlier you all shouted on the forum that the people of Belarus (80% for the AHL) will decide which way to go. Today, when they realized that Belarus did not vote for the AHL, you begin to repeat with manic stubbornness about the horror films that hit Ukraine. You insult us, call us baboons - not nice and not decent. I like this site, I love Russian military equipment, I am pleased to read about new Russian developments, I love reading here about Russian successes and bitterly reading about the problems of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus - our common problems, I want to believe that they are common. Today you think that Belarus will decline and disappear without AHL and are trying to convince either us or yourself of this. For example, I voted for "Against all". You must understand that no matter what happens next, Belarus will insist, fight for the overthrow of the AHL, what will happen next, it seems, no one cares anymore. I think that if something like this happened in Russia, you would not waste your time on trifles and go to the end, regardless of the consequences. I will say more. If Russia introduces its troops into Belarus to help the AHL, the ground will burn under their feet, do not hesitate. What prompted you to remind about the introduction of troops? Let me explain. On the channel "Russia" in the program "60 minutes" O. Skabeyeva and Co. are very actively leading viewers to the idea that it is necessary to "help the poor Belarusians" and the AHL in the fight against foreign influence. By the way about Skabeeva. What the local balabols carry on the air terrifies their competence. Kalashnikov is basically talking nonsense, the Ukrainian deputy (I don't remember his last name, I won't even go to Google) is basically the same nonsense. Recently, I.Yu. Korotchenko has disappointed. I understand that they should carry propaganda to the masses, but, dear, where is the flexibility in your speeches, bring the thought so that such a simple viewer like me should be sure only of your information. In the meantime, everything is clumsy, rude and somewhere not competent. I am disappointed. I will accept any criticism of the above fabrications without offense.

[Overlock]

Quote: drroc

Yesterday and earlier you all shouted on the forum that the people of Belarus (80% for the AHL) will decide which way to go. Today, when they realized that Belarus did not vote for the AHL, you begin to repeat with manic stubbornness about the horror films that hit Ukraine. You insult us, call us baboons - not nice and not decent.

what is left for patriots to do when their ideals collapse? The older brothers imagine themselves to be kings, but there is no whip on them ... yet. We must stay away from such brothers, they will strangle in brotherly embraces.

Quote: drroc

If Russia introduces its troops into Belarus to help the AHL, the ground will burn under their feet, do not hesitate. What prompted you to remind about the introduction of troops? Let me explain. On the channel "Russia" in the program "60 minutes" O. Skabeyeva and Co. are very actively leading viewers to the idea that it is necessary to "help the poor Belarusians"

so Simonyan is promoting it, the long-range people say that they are already on the roads to you. Good luck guerrillas

[Dali]

Quote: Overlock

and they don't have a whip ... yet.

Are you going to wield a whip - don't you take on a lot ?!

[Cristall]

Quote: drroc

Ukrainian deputy

Kovtunenko? He is an ex-deputy. And at the new job. The hired actor.
Like Kovtun and others.
These shows are needed to form the right opinion. Depending on the slope of the Earth.
If "partners" are needed, they glorify love for them and convince the population to be loyal to them.
If the partner gets knives, then they demonize him to the fullest.
Well, out of habit, the damned West, Ukraine, the Nazis, and so on. So that they do not relax to love the braces.
An illustrative example of the work of such low-standard propaganda is the President of Turkey
He's the best partner
Then he is an accomplice of terrorists
He is the main hope in the Turkish Stream and nuclear power plants
Then he dastardly kills the pilot and the paratrooper.
Then he gets a tomato war on his cheeks
Then he apologizes
Then we save him.
Then he knives / scimitars
Now he is for NAT, then he is for C 400
He is OUR then not ours
The news that he stopped taking gas, in a quiet line ...
And there was the case of the Turkish Stream as a salvation from Ukraine, and the North ..
geopolitics and soft power of the Russian Federation on top. Continuous losses from such geo-games
But people are still told that they need to change their shoes at the moment like this. And hesitate like a party line

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: drroc

My God, what are you carrying.

Every word to the point!

[Beringovsky]

Come on. There are actually few of them in Russia, most of them support you. We ourselves have the same problem with an irreplaceable power. The events in Khabarovsk, which began earlier than yours, confirm this.
And the site is full of kremlebots who work on soldering. Don't pay too much attention to them.
Py.sy. Oh yes, there is also a category of people who draw information exclusively from television and from Solovyov. You, too, are unlikely to convince them.

[Dali]

Quote: Beringovsky

Come on. In fact, there are not many of them in Russia, most of them support you.

You gr. do not speak for others, because you do not know ... it is not good to give out your opinion as a majority !!!

[drroc]

https://news.tut.by/economics/696703.html
I hope that we will "go our own way" different from the Ukrainian one. All good.

[strelokmira]

I hope that we will "go our own way" different from the Ukrainian one. All good.

They go to Poland to work, and you go to Latvia to catch sprats? Well, they are no longer caught there, only Amsterdam remains

[strelokmira]

Representative of the MTZ team

Why do you need to go out, or such a wild desire to destroy the enterprises where you worked, and then go with lace panties to Amsterdam to earn money as a priestess of love?
So you can just quit)))

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: strelokmira

with lace panties

You already got tired of your panties. Six years have passed, and you all waste them.
Finally refresh your training manuals.

[Dali]

Quote: pro100y.belarus

You already got tired of your panties. Six years have passed, and you all waste them.
Finally refresh your training manuals.

That the truth hurts my eyes ... but the fact that this phrase has become winged, so the claims are not to us !!!

[drroc]

Quote: strelokmira

I hope that we will "go our own way" different from the Ukrainian one. All good.

They go to Poland to work, and you go to Latvia to catch sprats? Well, they are no longer caught there, only Amsterdam remains

What is wrong with you? We didn’t put pots on our heads, we didn’t try cookies, we didn’t jump around shouting “who doesn’t jump that maskal”. They just boarded the snickering AHL and his comrades in a week, and then somehow. Don't worry about the AHL, it's not worth it. I hope we are with you, i.e. we will find a common language with Russia. especially since they owe you almost $ 40 billion.

[strelokmira]

I hope we are with you, i.e. we will find a common language with Russia

You won't find, specifically you will stand at the border with machine guns in your hands and watch how crowds of refugees from the former Republic of Belarus flock to the Russian checkpoint

especially since they owe you almost $ 40 billion.

You don't hold us for idiots, at least wrap yourself in a sheep skin, the grin of the Natsiks who burned the house of the trade union in Odessa to hell, soaked the people in Donbass do not hide

Your task is as simple as two fingers, to destroy the last independent state in Eastern Europe.

[VPavel]

As I understand it, among the other presidential candidates, there is not a single one focused on Russia. This is the saddest thing in this situation. Whoever comes to power from them will bring wild capitalism with the destruction of the economy and industry. And someone probably already counts their profits from privatization and rubs their hands. God grant that this scenario does not go on in Belarus. "Every revolution is conceived by romantics, carried out by fanatics, and inveterate scoundrels use its fruits."

[grad2308]

Initially, there were not several worthy candidates - this is the first mistake.

Quote: VPavel

As I understand it, among the other presidential candidates, there is not a single one focused on Russia. This is the saddest thing in this situation. Whoever comes to power from them will bring wild capitalism with the destruction of the economy and industry. And someone probably already counts their profits from privatization and rubs their hands. God grant that this scenario does not go on in Belarus. "Every revolution is conceived by romantics, carried out by fanatics, and inveterate scoundrels use its fruits."

With this I agree 100% !!!! Lukashenko A.G. also involved in the secession from Russia, since local nationalist organizations existed and acted fruitfully with his knowledge - the second mistake (I will make a reservation - not as zealously as in Ukraine). Pro-Russian-minded organizations were infringed upon, with the exception of general holidays. Again, I will say that both presidents should have found common ground on these issues. There are two different vectors in society and it's hard to say how it ends. The adult population aged 45 and over is oriented towards Russia (taught by bitter experience), young people up to 35 towards Europe (it is difficult to condemn them, young people always strive for a better life, share). Now you shouldn't break the "spears" on the site at all. The choice of this or that for the Belarusians!

[Unknown]

before going on strike, they need to be shown what the Volgograd tractor has become, how the Russian privatizers have torn it apart, and that in the near future, the same fate awaits them.

[strelokmira]

they need to show

Whoever needs them has already shown the required amounts with the dead American presidents. And for them, they will be ready to roll the whole country into a similar landscape

[grad2308]

Quote: Unknown

before going on strike, they need to be shown what the Volgograd tractor has become, how the Russian privatizers have torn it apart, and that in the near future, the same fate awaits them.

If you are from Volgograd, then you yourself know by whom the so-called "Sivka" and "Bon". Answer yourself from what and why. No offense, I know perfectly well what is happening in the city, it is bitter to tears. PS In the Bryansk region, the Klintsovskaya fine cloth factory named after V.I. Lenin has also finished - the equipment has been sold, the buildings have been leased.

[Dali]

Quote: Unknown

before going on strike, they need to be shown what the Volgograd tractor has become, how the Russian privatizers have torn it apart, and that in the near future, the same fate awaits them.

A worse fate awaits them, because:
They don't make tractors, but here's what they do:
https://vgtz.com
Currently, the industrial site produces a new generation of airborne combat vehicles - BMD-4M - modern sophisticated vehicles saturated with high-tech components. This is an indicator that the enterprise is able to provide the highest quality of manufacturing of any complex equipment, both military and civilian.

And there are enough tractors to do.

[audigamma]

Here I read all the comments, and I don't understand YOU brothers of the Russians, why are you drowning for him what he made to you except for promises: Abkhazia and South Ossetia recognized - NO, after the war on 08.08.08 he went to Georgia to Mishiko, on the land of the union state he accepted the killer of your peacekeepers - accepted. And you swallowed everything. Now the protesters Belarusians are already adjoining European integrators, but your integrators are not visible. And then again you will shout how did you oversleep Belarus?

[strelokmira]

Here I read all the comments, and I do not understand YOU brothers of the Russians, why are you drowning for him that he made you besides promises

Here I am reading you pseudo-Belarusians, and I am surprised, are you really that much? Do you think we do not see how you are ruining the state of the Republic of Belarus in an effort to destroy its industry, agriculture and generally deprive it of statehood. Or do you really think that someone believes in your pure revolution without Western money?

Now European integrators are already adjoining the protesters Belarusians, but your integrators are not visible

Here I agree, unfortunately, our interests are not visible. If someone were interested in stability on their borders, then now the special forces of the Russian Federation, together with the KGB of Belarus, would massively clear the streets of protesters
And the especially frisky ones were stuffed with 7.62 bullets
But unfortunately, this in the Russian Federation does not bother anyone

ps So what remains to wish Old Man, to crush you with tanks and destroy in all available ways. For RB will not save anything, but it is better to die fighting with NATO troops who will declare intervention. How to make concessions to selling biomass

[audigamma]

You at all. Go sleep it off. I am completely for Russia, but what are you proposing to us again? No really. We don't need him.

[Dali]

Quote: audigamma

You at all. Go sleep it off. I am completely for Russia, but what are you proposing to us again? No really. We don't need him.

How are you going to stay for Russia, and at the same time admit pro-Westerners to power?

[pereselenec]

After this comment, I recommend that you change your nickname from strelokmira to steklovata

[drroc]

Quote: VPavel

As I understand it, among the other presidential candidates, there is not a single one focused on Russia. This is the saddest thing in this situation. Whoever comes to power from them will bring wild capitalism with the destruction of the economy and industry. And someone probably already counts their profits from privatization and rubs their hands. God grant that this scenario does not go on in Belarus. "Every revolution is conceived by romantics, carried out by fanatics, and inveterate scoundrels use its fruits."

You know, there are many people who do not like and do not want an alliance with Russia. For me personally, it doesn't matter where I will work as an electrician, in independent Belarus or in Belarus in an alliance with Russia. But there are probably only a few people like me. Further, I will not breed demagoguery, but I will be indignant out loud: "Why did VVP congratulate AHL on winning the elections, for what? What was the need against the background of recent unfriendly events and actions from AHL?" All this was perceived very, very negatively. "Now imagine, all Western countries with sanctions and rejection, and allied Russia with open arms to the tyrant, plus the patriarch joined. I understand, they did not want Amer's bases close by, and under certain circumstances you can get the opposite Where is the elementary professional pause? (In a hurry, as you know, you will make people laugh) Where is intelligence, where are analysts? Where? After all, Russia is not ruled by amateurs. I think it was not difficult for professionals to calculate half a step forward. Now the pro-Western Belarusian politicians will have a full-fledged trump card against Russia. It hurts. And as for me, well, well, what will happen, I am with my country. It will be a shame if the Nazis come to power and will be forced to abandon the mighty Russian, the flag will be white-red-white in any scenario, it must be admitted for sure - by 120%.

[Narak-zempo]

Although it is a German poster, it very accurately reflects the essence of all kinds of "zmagaros for freedom", and especially those who are riding in Sinyavoki now. They are all murderers and bandits.

[drroc]

Take better care of your country, your youth, 2024 is just around the corner. And with your turn, you’ll screw it up in an instant. Don't drink Rus' away.

[Alexander Greene]

The workers are sawing the branch they are sitting on. All the words about democratic freedoms that opposition supporters talk about are not worth a penny. In the end, the workers will receive the same thing that the Ukrainians received - the destruction of large state property and the elimination of jobs. Before supporting Tikhanovskaya, you need to think - where will you work later? The strawberry market in Poland is already occupied.

[Cristall]

I don’t understand Russians.
In 2013/14, Ukrainians were called names the same way. They were demonized.
I also understand that an alternative path was announced - the Association. That is, direct economic competition of the CU. That is, banal competition and loot. We don’t choose Moscow, we definitely choose Brussels.
This was contrary to the interests of the Kremlin, which means it is truly hostile. Economically (everything else was done by the Kremlin itself for PR and the “Russian world”)
But at the moment, the Republic of Belarus did not even mention the Association. And they don’t have any plans or agreements.
There is no hostile alternative to the Russian Federation.
It would seem that you work with soft power and bring in your proteges and pursue your interests.
And Lukashenko is better.
Is it difficult to see your own people off? Popularize the Russian Federation
Or does the Damned West do it better and the Russian Federation worse? After all, the Russian Federation has ALL the trump cards! All. Just like in Ukraine (half of it was already purchased there).
And only a rotten, inept policy without soft power, without an understanding of how to work with the lower classes, leads to the support of those who will not even pursue a pro-Russian policy!
And what can we call pro-Russian....that’s the policy of the partner from the Kremlin. This is not pro-Russian. Pro-affiliate..
This is what the Kremlin wants. And that means the Russian Federation.
And the people of the Russian Federation are being fed various fairy tales, trying to justify their policies..
If something is wrong, it means the Damned West, the fascists, the Banderaites, if everything is not clear, it’s a multi-step.
But there is no good result. The same Crimea was used for self-PR. Opening Pandora. By creating the most unfriendly state on the longest European border.
Over the past 6 years, I have seen how the Republic of Belarus, comment after comment, is made into an image of enemies.
Either they feed them and they draw figments, then they fill the tanks with fuel for the damned junta and compete with Rosneft and this is bad. (It doesn’t matter that the Russian Federation is more in charge, but we can, but the Republic of Belarus needs to be blamed)
I have the impression that the order to create a bad image of the Republic of Belarus came a long time ago.
And with such a policy it will really be possible to bomb even Voronezh
There will also be “fascists and Banderaites” - if necessary, they will declare them and bomb them. And the people will approve.
You need to work in any situation, and not cling to someone who doesn’t even work for the Russian Federation.
Act with soft power, not a bear in the shop. Using force indiscriminately will not force you to be nice.

[audigamma]

You said correctly.

[arlekin]

Quote: Cristall

I don’t understand Russians.

Well, first of all, not Russians, but military officers. I’m surprised by you Cristall, I’ve been on the site for 7 years and I don’t understand what kind of contingent is here.
You've heard of the crab bucket theory. So, now the Belarus crab is trying to get out of the bucket.

[pereselenec]

By the way, I had a question for the Putinists / Likashenists: how do you imagine the scenario of the future that will suit you?

A decrepit 67-year-old Putin gains immortality and reigns forever, providing you with eternal stability, "getting up from your knees" and "import substitution"? Maybe you crave Kadyrov as a successor?

66-year-old Lukashenko rules another 20 years for 15-year-old Kolenka to reach the age of 35 (since a citizen of Belarus by birth, at least 35 years old, who has the right to vote and has permanently resided in the Republic of Belarus for at least ten years immediately before elections.)?

What exactly will suit you?

[Lord of the Sith]

Fart villager. Not only can this “decrepit Putin” easily kick your ass on the tatami, but he will also outlive you))

And about the onion. Yes, it's the son of a bitch. But he's our son of a bitch. Albeit with a twist. And the rest are puppets of the West.

[audigamma]

So take it for yourself, he will be Putin’s successor.

[Lord of the Sith]

Our president (after a long pause - approx. "VO") - Tikhanovskaya.

Who is Tikhanovskaya anyway? Another Guaido? Don Juan, Juan dong?
She has already given up everything)))

[Yuri Mikhailovsky]

Scheme of further events: privatization - bankruptcy - dismissal - cutting up MTZ for scrap metal. Or will the Germans, French, Swedes... give you their market?

[Lara Croft]

Meanwhile, protests and strikes continued in Belarus. MTZ workers joined the strike. At the same time, the workers are putting forward openly political demands, up to and including “the removal of the illegitimate president and the calling of new elections.”

There is justice in the world....
The Russian Federation, to the detriment of its tractor industry, helped the Republic of Belarus and its MTZ, purchasing tractors and engines from it....
Apparently, the hard workers from MTZ believe that MTZ’s capacity has increased due to the smart development plan of their enterprise, let’s see what happens if MTZ loses the Russian market....
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