Refutation of the material and apologies to the Artsakh Republic Foreign Ministry

The press service of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Artsakh (NKR) reacted to the publication, in which Voennoye Obozreniye presented a translation of an article from the Polish information resource Defense24. The material of the Polish edition contained statements that the Artsakh Republic allegedly made claims against Russia and attributed to our country possible cooperation with Turkey to the detriment of the interests of the NKR people. Also, Polish reporters announced that in the republic they allegedly began to put some ultimatums of the Russian Federation.

Voennoye Obozreniye quoted a phrase from the Polish edition of Defense24:

"If such assistance (from Russia) is not provided, then Armenia will drive the Russians out of its territory, and this will mean the end of Russian influence in the Caucasus."

In the material "VO" on this occasion contained an addition of the following character:

It should be emphasized that we are talking about publishing in the Polish press, which is important. To what extent what the Polish journalist writes about is close to the truth is still an open question.

After a while, the Artsakh Foreign Ministry received a refutation of these statements. It looked like this:

The press service of the Artsakh Republic Foreign Ministry categorically denies the report of the Russian website Topwar.ru, in which, with reference to the Polish edition of Defense24, the following words are attributed to the Minister of Foreign Affairs Masis Mayilyan, allegedly expressed in the context of Turkey's possible intervention in the Azerbaijani-Karabakh conflict: “If such assistance ( from Russia - Artsakh Foreign Ministry press service) is not provided, then Armenia will drive the Russians out of its territory, and this will mean the end of Russian influence in the Caucasus. "

Acquaintance with the original article of the Polish edition leaves no doubt that the above words belong to a retired military man, and not to Minister Mayilyan. I would like to think that such a gross distortion of the fact was the result not of deliberate misinformation, but of a technical error caused by the notorious difficulties of translation. Hope for this conclusion is given by the fact that the Russian Internet resource Topwar.ru itself casts doubt on this kind of statement of the minister, having transmitted this phrase with the words "allegedly stated by the head of the Artsakh Foreign Ministry."

The press service of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Artsakh counts on the constructiveness of the Russian media, which will promptly eliminate the mistake.

"Voennoye Obozreniye" confirms the mistake and makes a deep and sincere apology to the Artsakh Republic Foreign Ministry. Due to the mistake made, the material with a link to the provocative article of the Polish resource Defense24 was removed from publication.

Comments

[Shilka]

It happens, and that good fellows have apologized!

[Terenin]

Quote: Shilka

It happens, and that good fellows have apologized!

It is felt that the guys are on duty in Stepanakert. Not otherwise, some of the military pensioners

[Shilka]

Quote: Terenin

It is felt that the guys are on duty in Stepanakert. Not otherwise, some of the military pensioners

This is good, otherwise I thought the members of the forum from Armenia were dispersed here .. Previously, there were a lot of them quite adequate ..

[Terenin]

Quote: Shilka

Quote: Terenin

It is felt that the guys are on duty in Stepanakert. Not otherwise, some of the military pensioners

This is good, otherwise I thought the members of the forum from Armenia were dispersed here .. Previously, there were a lot of them quite adequate ..

Vitaliy, for the second month already they cannot "knock you out"
This is what it means - a Soviet self-propelled anti-aircraft gun with a rate of fire - 3400 rounds per minute

[Shilka]

Quote: Terenin

Vitaly, hi for the second month they can't "knock you out"

I fight back Gennady, though the grip is not the same as 8 years ago ..

Quote: Terenin

This is what it means - a Soviet self-propelled anti-aircraft gun with a rate of fire - 3400 rounds per minute

I thought about it right away .. The famous Shilka-Shaitan arba ..))))))
Break through the men!

[Owls 79]

Most left on their own. The Military Review website has always been a platform for insulting and discrediting Armenians and Armenia.

[Shilka]

Quote: Owl 79

Most left on their own. The Military Review website has always been a platform for insulting and discrediting Armenians and Armenia.

Well, don't tell me .. There was such a moderator from Azerbaijan "Apollon" here on the site .. He died of a heart attack. (Allah bless him and the kingdom of heaven to him) He was very adequate and judicious. He was a real Moderator! I was besieged calmly and I apologized. But that's not the point, he kept his distance so that forum users from Armenia and Azerbaijan did not fight .. There was just a dialogue, albeit tense, but without insults
Now in one gate they kick mostly .. Well, here you can understand the site VO has become popular and whoever is not here But for THIS MODERATOR I will drink standing! He worried very much about all this srach, etc.
PS I, too, almost gave up in 2015 when they were banned .. The infarction got hit, well, there are still other problems at the same time.
In general, only Russia will be able to calm Azerbaijan and Armenia, which we have been doing lately .. Enough has already been fought !!!!!

[Owls 79]

Yes, I found those times. But I do not agree with you and I will not write badly about the dead.
That's why I left the site a few years ago, when I got tired of watching Russians being forced to hate Armenians, and Armenians - Russian.
On the other hand, the fact that the editorial board of the Military Review uses the Armenian name of the unrecognized republic gives hope that the Armenophobia is finally over.

[alone]

Quote: Shilka

May Allah keep him and the kingdom of heaven to him

You would have decided ... Allah cannot keep the deceased, unless his soul. But about the kingdom of heaven is to the point

[Shilka]

Quote: Owl 79

Most left on their own. The Military Review website has always been a platform for insulting and discrediting Armenians and Armenia.

I watched it myself and tried to protect it as best I could, but they attacked with a gang ...

Quote: Owl 79

Yes, I found those times. But I do not agree with you and I will not write badly about the dead.

Maybe I don’t know something, but I still insist on my opinion ..
What is now is a hybrid occupation here and not only of you Armenians ..

[Reptiloid]

I would like to add, dear comrades! Not all articles have time to sink and compare. But, in my opinion, there are fewer commentators from the former Soviet republics on the site. Unfortunately, connections between parts of the large country of the USSR are weakening. And when I came here, there were many flags of the neighboring countries!

[Shilka]

Quote: Reptiloid

But, in my opinion, there are generally fewer commentators from the former Soviet republics on the site. Unfortunately, connections between parts of the large country of the USSR are weakening. And when I came here, there were many flags of the neighboring countries!

That was exactly the way it was .. And the events were learned first-hand, so to speak, sometimes they talked, but the Soviet unity was felt .. And now, to see our generation was crushed, it becomes difficult to prove or tell something.

[Reptiloid]

I started working in 2003 and often talked with newcomers at work ... Everyone said only good things about the USSR ... now no one remembers anymore ...
Only if they talk about old relatives.

[antivirus]

dances with tambourines by the fire and barbecue.
no one offended anyone, not even a gopher.
at any technical level, people decide their own destiny.
and to replace NKarabakh and Pashinyan (for more interesting relations with Armenia) ---- juggling terms

[Grandfather]

Martin, and Tolkien (Battle of Thrones and all sorts of Lords of the Rings), sadly grind the bulls on the sidelines ...

[K-612-O]

Pashinyan the clown and the Soros worm. I am afraid to communicate with Artsakh even more constructively.

[Mountain shooter]

Read VO, read!

[Senka naughty]

Of course they do. It would not be bad to start "working harder", with the authors of outright fakes and stuffing.

[Lech from Android.]

Ha ... of course they do for many years on the forum in VO, whoever was not ... especially when there was more real information ... now the full-flowing river of information has shallowed to a stream ... I'm afraid that this drying process will continue further ... We will use rotten sources from Poland.

[Shilka]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Read VO, read!

Especially in Israel ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Shilka

Especially in Israel ...

It smacks of anti-Semitism.

[Shilka]

Quote: Paranoid50

Quote: Shilka

Especially in Israel ...

It smacks of anti-Semitism.

But you're wrong, okay, I agree, let them write .. ..

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Shilka

let them write ..

Well, there’s no doubt about that.

[Sergey Medvedev]

And I have been saying for a long time, return the minuses to the articles! So that the crap of each copywriter was visible!

[volodimer]

There has always been a problem with cons to articles ... It is clear that when the author is delusional, the tie is deserved, but here's how to evaluate negative news, for example: "The United States withdrew from the treaty ..." this is news with a minus sign unambiguously. But the description of this news ... "they are imbecile, they do not understand what is worse for them ..." makes you want to put a "plus" ....
I understand why it has become the way it has become. The moderators chose this method of evaluating publications. It allows you to write about negative events without fear of falling into a flurry of minuses. Good or bad, that's the question! Judging by the reaction to your comment, the desire to return the minus will prevail. Like Stirlitz, "information for thought." Moderators ...

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: volodimer

There has always been a problem with cons to articles ... It is clear that when the author is delusional, the tie is deserved, but here's how to evaluate negative news, for example: "The United States withdrew from the treaty ..." this is news with a minus sign unambiguously. But the description of this news ... "they are imbecile, they do not understand what is worse for them ..." makes you want to put a "plus" ....

And I do not agree with you. A minus is given not for bad news or negative information, but for poorly presented news or bad (the topic is not disclosed, there are many errors on the topic, etc.) a written article.

[Sergey Medvedev]

Quote: volodimer

"food for thought". Moderators ...

I agree with you, there is a problem of evaluating bad news. They say that in ancient times, messengers who brought bad news were generally killed. Well, let the administrators look for solutions. Removing the "minus" is definitely not a solution.

[Shilka]

Quote: Sergey Medvedev

And I have been saying for a long time, return the minuses to the articles! So that the crap of each copywriter was visible!

This question has been raised for a long time. !!! .And in general, there is a feeling that in the deep rear of NATO you write and wait .that is about to arrive ..

[Senka naughty]

Finally, "we" were shaken) No really, most of the articles go in a stream. No links to primary sources, no video, although the material says about the appeal. Such articles can be easily manipulated. As revealed by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic. Although the possibility of error is not excluded.

[svp67]

Comrades must be more careful, more careful ...

[Terenin]

Quote: svp67

Comrades must be more careful, more careful ...

- Comrade Major, study carefully the past of our battalion commander ...
- And what happened?
- Every time after shooting, he habitually and carefully wipes fingerprints from weapons

[svp67]

Quote: Terenin

- Comrade Major,

Well, of course not with such a subtext, but the consequences could have diplomatic consequences ...

[Terenin]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Terenin

- Comrade Major,

Well, of course not with such a subtext, but the consequences could have diplomatic consequences ...

Yes, that's understandable. But, diplomacy also implies - a peaceful way by which negative consequences are avoided.

[genisis]

Is it really possible to write Republic of Artsakh on topwar.ru without any hyphens and asterisks there?!?
But no, you can't (((
I don’t understand such an exception, kill me.
If the names of the unrecognized republics cannot be written, then Abkhazia, for example, could not be written either. But there is no such limitation.
If this restriction applies specifically to the Republic of Artsakh, then this is more than strange, given the article we are commenting on.
Maybe it's time for site administrators to get rid of this seemingly biased relationship?

[Pereira]

What other letter combinations are prohibited on the site? Is there an official list?
u * k * p I know. Ancient u * k * ry probably take offense.

[Quadro]

Quote: Pereira

What other letter combinations are prohibited on the site? Is there an official list?
u * k * p I know. Ancient u * k * ry probably take offense.

X * o * x * o * l and n * u * n * d * o * s. And on a regular basis weirdos come out insulting the Russians and they are not banned. On good terms, they need to be sued.

[demo]

All these restrictions are nothing more than the personal opinion of some administrator.
And someone will get on the sanctions list?

Okay. This is by the way.
And here is how people really act in conditions of recognition-non-recognition.
Watching a video about Abkhazia.
The local eccentric talks about everything, without hiding.
True, shooting from the back.
Episode.
They go to the store.
On the shelves there is Abkhazian wine - Apsny, etc.
Ours says that let's drink some Abkhaz wine.
The guide explains to him on the street - in Abkhazia there is real wine, only in households.
And what is poured into bottles is the material of Moldovan wine.
The truth is, one thing is not clear: it is the Russians who bring it to Russia and then deliver it to Abkhazia, or the wine is delivered directly to Abkhazia bypassing Russia.
If the latter, then here is the violation by Moldova of sanctions and legislation.
But in fact, no one cares about the sanctions until they are caught.

[tralflot1832]

The locals also make fun of this. When you buy Abkhaz homemade wine, ask the owner where his vineyard is. You will be surprised with the answer.

[Operator]

Comrade VO administrators are going the "right" way - first they removed the flags from the participants, then they canceled the opportunity to ignore outright Russophobes in the comments, then they blocked the opportunity to post articles on military-technical topics (except for a limited circle of authors - humanitarians), now you are replicating foreign deceptions.

As a result, the professional level of the site over the past year has fallen not childishly.

[Shilka]

Quote: Operator

first, they removed the flags from the participants, then they canceled the opportunity to ignore outright Russophobes in the comments,

Well, this is at the "request of the workers" ... And the workers suddenly immediately became immortal colonels-generals ..
This is world politics and "world public opinion" ..

[Bongo]

Quote: Operator

blocked the ability to post articles on military-technical topics (except for a limited circle of authors - humanitarians)

Andrey, you are not able to publish the article?

[askort154]

Operator..As a result, the professional level of the site over the past year has fallen not childishly.

I wrote about this, in more detail and motivated. Admin did not miss.
Type-unacceptable criticism. Although not one rude word. This is how it became.

[Operator]

I have been in VO for eight years (once there was a technical overlap - I had to change my avatar), during this time there were no innovations, but most of all, the drop in the level of articles on military topics is depressing.

[Eula]

Yes, everything is logical, as it were, whoever pays for the music orders.

[rocket757]

Big turbid stream and no filter!
You know, it's fun to hear / read that some of our former brothers are our friends, friends and are waiting right there, to visit, for example.
However, too many unpleasant things come to mind at once, the name of that side, from the side of their leadership, which they themselves chose!
So Armenia is not yet like Georgia or the Baltic sisters with a multiple side, but this is YET, because they are moving in the right direction, as they themselves say, and this is not closer to us, by no means.
About Karabakh ... the topic is not so relevant for us, we know little, we understand and see only what immediately catches the eye. If we were confident in the authorities of the other side, then in Polish lies / notion they would spit with relish and walk past, and so it went where it was necessary and rushed. Those. distrust WAS and this is already a reality. The enemy hits where and so weakly, hoping for a real result ...... by the way, they are molos !!! Poke our noses wherever they want.

[scrap123]

Well, the base remained in its place)))

[alone]

Quote: scrap123

Well, the base remained in its place)))

What relation does Karabakh have to the 102nd base in order to leave or remove this base from its statements?

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

The reaction of the VO editorial board is normal for today's media ... Mistaken or deliberately launched a fake, it does not matter ... It is important to quickly apologize and refute and that's it ... we work on. Only the reader is left with an unpleasant "aftertaste" and disbelief in the materials without indicating the author or translator of the material (and the "country" should know the heroes of VO by name !!!!!)

[bald]

Guys, you must always be cultured, I love this military review, of course there are flaws, well, who does not happen.

[Operator]

Quote: Bongo

are you unable to publish your article?

You are right.

[akunin]

Why did they recognize the sovereignty of the Nagorno - Karabakh republic? or the jurisdiction of armenia over it? Then what about the foreign ministry?

[sergo1914]

"Voennoye Obozreniye confirms the mistakes made in issuing warnings and bans for user Sergo1914 and apologizes deeply and sincerely."

[Fmax]

Is there such a thing?

[Scorpio05]

"Voennoye Obozreniye" has recognized the illegal formation of the so-called republic in quotation marks ah? Are the positions of the Russian Federation and the Military Review different? And nothing that Armenia itself did not recognize this "republic"?)

[VyacheSeymour]

Refutation of the material and apologies to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Artsakh

The editorial board, - Wickipedria is in your hands! ... - Even she knows all state formations! ... - Thank God YOUR incompetence is in no way connected with the policy of the Russian Federation ...
The fact that the level of your publications has slipped to the level of seed husks spat on by grandmothers-politicians from the gateway is an article removed from the site and this apology for its publication - This is a confirmation !!! ... - God forgive your ignorance and unprofessional attempts in the field alaSMI with a military-political review and analysis ...

[Yuri]

It's very nice to see a responsible and objective approach

[VyacheSeymour]

It's very nice to see a responsible and objective approach

Responsibility is measured by an act - not by repentance on the block ...

[uranium]

I know there will be disadvantages, but the administration of the forum itself violates the rules using the names of an unrecognized entity that fundamentally differs from the official policy of the Russian Federation and from international law. It's the same as apologizing or saying "Ichkeria" instead of Chechnya.