The second prototype of the Turkish-Ukrainian UAV Akinci made its first flight

Second drum prototype drone Bayraktar Akinci, developed in Turkey, made its first flight. This was reported by the press service of Baykar on Twitter.

The drone was reportedly tested at the company's flight test center at orlu airfield and was deemed successful. In total, the strike UAV spent 1 hour 2 minutes in the air.

As previously reported, the second prototype of the drone was submitted for testing in May this year. Prior to that, the company conducted tests with one prototype, the first flight of which took place back in December 2019. The third drone will be tested by the end of this year.

Bayraktar AKINCI TİHA'nın ikinci prototipi de gökyüzüyle buluştu!

Sistem Doğrulama ve Tanımlama Testi kapsamında 1 saat 2 dakika havada kalan Bayraktar AKINCI TİHA uçuşu başarıyla tamamladı.

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[The leader of the Redskins]

An interesting device! I try to follow him - figuratively speaking, the first UAV is a bomber!

[donavi49]

A ton of bombs and missiles at 6 points, this is serious.

[Alex777]

In general, never stealth.
It will be perfectly visible on radars.

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

figuratively speaking, the first UAV is a bomber!

Yah. The Predator C has been carrying 2,9 tons of weapons since 2009.

[Grazdanin]

Avenger (Predator C)

Armaments
Internal weapons bay with 3,500 pounds (1,600 kg) capacity. 6 external hardpoints. 6,500 pounds (2,900 kg) payload total.

weaponry
Internal weapons bay with a capacity of 3500 lb (1600 kg). 6 external hard points. Total payload is 6500 lb (2900 kg).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_Avenger

[Grazdanin]

Very nice car. It resembles a bird of prey in flight.

[Berg berg]

Is this the drone that was successfully knocked down in Syria and Libya? And what is there from Ukraine paint or wheels?

[Cyril G ...]

Others - Bayraktars and Anki - shot down. In total, around 25 is approximately confirmed

[Berg berg]

This is not confirmed, but according to other versions it costs 40 pieces! And the paint on them and the wheels were Ukrainian, because for a penny! )))

[Oquzyurd]

Did you have lunch today? When sugar is low, all delirium comes out of the mouth.

[Cyril G ...]

The numbers that I gave are just confirmed ... See here - https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Year=2020
There and a photo of a heap of wreckage takes place ...

[Alex777]

And what is paint or wheels from Ukraine?

Equipped with the Ukrainian AI-450S turboprop engine

[Herman 4223]

And what's Ukrainian, why didn't they write?

[The leader of the Redskins]

Engines - for sure.

[Wwk7260]

Motorsich engines, airframe design (possibly) from Antonov, Turkish software and avionics, there was a video in UT.

[Oquzyurd]

Only Ukrainian engines. 12 engines (450 liters) were supplied for 6 drones. With these engines they claim to gain altitude up to 12 km, but in fact, during tests up to 16 km, they gained altitude. In addition to Ukrainian UAVs, local Turkish PD 220 engines will be installed. The design of the airframe was developed and assembled inside and out by the Baikar company, that is, local.

[Wwk7260]

the video said that "Antonov" was taking part in the project, hence my speculations about the glider, something should be from the Academy of Sciences?

[Oquzyurd]

Maybe a wind tunnel test? The Turks are only building a test tube until they are finished.

[Oquzyurd]

By the way, Akinchi will be very equipped with UAVs, even on board radar and air-to-air missiles.
Technical characteristics of the AKINCI assault UAV:

Stay in the air: 24 hours
Height: 40000 feet
Payload: 1,350 kg (900 kg external - 450 kg internal)
Takeoff weight: 4,5 tons
Wingspan: 20 m
Engine: 2 × 450 HP Turboprop (variant 750 HP + 240 HP)
Data Network: LOS \ SATCOM
Radar: National AESA (Air / SAR)
Electronic Warfare: Electronic Support Module
Armament: MAM-L, MAM-C, Javelin, L-UMTAS, UMTAS, Bozok, MK-81, MK-82, MK-83, Precision Guidance Kit (HGK), Winged Guidance Kit (UPS) -MK-82, Teber-82, Gökdoğan Füzesi, Bozdoğan Füzesi, SOM-A
Features of AKINCI SİHA:

Electronic warfare
SAR Discovery
Signal intelligence
EO\IR Discovery
Observation of the territory
.................................. .................................. ................
From the list of weapons, the Gökdoğan Füzesi, Bozdoğan Füzesi, are air-to-air missiles.

[Wwk7260]

about engines ... two turboprop 450 each is understandable, but 750+ 240 is that?
yes, the performance is impressive! 1350kg, which is only worth, and everything else, just not happy that the closest opponents of the Russian Federation have it, but it does not.

[Oquzyurd]

"two turboprop 450 each is understandable, but 750+ 240 is that?" 2 x 450 liters is conditional. The fact is that with the ceiling the engines become weak, and on the ground they are strong. 750 l / 2 is at the highest point from the ground, 750 + 240 l / 2 on the ground. Even more "quiet" variants will also be equipped with local PD 220 engines (a forced version of PD 170) with a total of 440 hp.

[Wwk7260]

Now it’s clear, thanks.
in general, it's amazing how they achieved such efficiency on turboprop that it can hang in the air for 24 hours, logically a turbodiesel is just right for such an apparatus, well, of course, a turbodiesel is unlikely to take 16 m, but on the other hand, does it need it?

[Oquzyurd]

"How did they achieve such efficiency on turboprop?" The Aselsan company works wonders. They finalized the Ukrainian engines, brought them to the required requirements.

[Oquzyurd]

"It is unlikely to take 16 m, but on the other hand, does he need it?" High flight allows you to hit targets from a greater distance with smart bombs, like the Winged Guidance Kit (UPS) -MK-000, without exposing yourself to air defense fire. If memory serves, when tested from an altitude of about 82 or 9 thousand meters, they hit the target at a distance of 10 km, that is, if even higher, there will be even further damage.

[Grazdanin]

At 16 km with armament with these engines, it will definitely not fly. And so 12+ is a very good result, it will allow you to fly over many air defense systems.

[Cyril G ...]

Late, the Houthis quite successfully use all high-altitude P-27Ts on the battlefield. This is where everything comes in handy ...

[Grazdanin]

HIMARS armed with AIM-120 missiles was also tested so they are not the first

[Cyril G ...]

The Houthis have a real battle score. Eagle and Tornado shot down + a few drones offhand ...

And the air defense system was piled from scrap materials. Brilliantly!!!

[Grazdanin]

Need for invention is cunning. The idea has a place for life, if there are stocks of P27 why not.

[Oquzyurd]

Rumors have intensified that the Turks will nevertheless buy Harrier from the Italians, for the UDC Anadolu.

[Grazdanin]

Rubbish, it's better to develop a UAV under the UDK

[Oquzyurd]

Apparently, they think that the new UAV for "Anadolu" will not be in time. They are preparing to build the UDC "Trakia", maybe the UAV will be in time. But all this is in the form of rumors. It will be more likely in the near future.

[Grazdanin]

I think after the elections they will agree on F35. The United States needs Turkey.

[Oquzyurd]

If Biden is elected, relations will become even worse, but Turkey's importance to them will remain. His last interview says a lot. Trump will remain, then yes, there will be improvement.

[Grazdanin]

In fact, the president does not play the main role in these issues. I think now there is just a bargaining, the Turks want to "sell" with 400 more expensive. And any contract before November is useless.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Oquzyurd

In addition to Ukrainian UAVs, these UAVs will have local Turkish PD 220 engines.

Which are also Ukrainian presumably, though with a re-tagged, licensed assembly?

[Oquzyurd]

Developed and created by TEI (Tusaş Engine Industries) No license there. For 6 years they have developed 9 engines (5.30 s) of various types and purposes. In the video 1.30 s, PD 170 Turbodizel for drones, 2.12 s, TS 1400 Turbosaft, for helicopters , 3.17 s, TJ 300 Turbojet, for anti-ship rockets, 3.55 s, T 700,701 D Turbosaft, for heavy helicopters. These engines are created and are already serially injected in TEI workshops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj0NvV-4ceY

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Oquzyurd

Developed and created by TEI (Tusaş Engine Industries) No license there. For 6 years they have developed 9 engines (5.30 s) of various types and purposes. In the video 1.30 s, PD 170 Turbodizel for drones, 2.12 s, TS 1400 Turbosaft, for helicopters , 3.17 s, TJ 300 Turbojet, for anti-ship rockets, 3.55 s, T 700,701 D Turbosaft, for heavy helicopters. These engines are created and are already serially injected in TEI workshops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj0NvV-4ceY

Well, just like in the USSR in the early 30s !!! And at least something of this magnificence is real in the series and works normally on technology ???

[Oquzyurd]

All the above engines are serially injected, used. Very successful engines, each in its own class, with very decent characteristics.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Oquzyurd

with very decent characteristics.

I am translating you into Russian, how it is there in reality you do not know, but you firmly believe in propaganda .. I envy you 30 years ago, I also believed.

[Oquzyurd]

No, I don’t believe it. There are characteristics of motors that have been tested thousands of times at the stand, then in reality. For example, "3.17 s, TJ 300 Turbojet, for anti-ship rockets," It has a diameter of 24,5 cm, weighs a little less than 30 kg, while pushing force 1300 N, transonic speeds gaining strength 400 liters. It has no competitor in this class and weight. This is a fact. The same can be said about "PD 170 Turbodizel for drones". It is compared with analogs, and conclusions are drawn.

[APASUS]

Quote: Herman 4223

And what's Ukrainian,

Shock combat drone. The first images of the Bayraktar Akıncı UAV hit the media in June 2018. Equipped with the Ukrainian AI-450S turboprop engine

[TermNachTer]

Turks came to "Motor" and "Progress", walked, looked. The contract was concluded with Progress, but it is clear that it will not be able to handle such a volume, and not everything Progress can do by itself, so Motor will get a hefty chunk if mattress covers do not ban or destroy the plant completely))))

[orionvitt]

For God's sake, let them test. It has been written and said a thousand times that all these UAVs, both drums and reconnaissance ones, do not pose any threat to a state that has at least some normal air defense. Toys against barefoot aborigines and portless guerrillas.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: orionvitt

It has been written and said a thousand times that all these UAVs, that

It is just such a device, according to its performance characteristics, corresponding to the end of the 30s of the 20th century against even a slightly adequate enemy, in principle, is useless.
But on the battlefield, tactical UAVs of an ultra-small and small class are a vital necessity ... As well as all kinds of false kamikaze targets. Long-range scouts also have a really definite meaning - drones like Tritons and other things.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Cyril G ...

against at least a slightly adequate opponent, in principle, useless

But on the battlefield

The fact of the matter is that if the enemy is adequate, then he is adequate everywhere, including on the battlefield. On tricky devices like

UAVs of ultra-small and small class

an adequate opponent will always find a "threaded bolt".

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Cyril G ...

even a slightly adequate opponent is basically useless.

That's it. We, the United States and Turkey, have few such opponents. Basically, wars are now going on with countries without air defense or after its destruction.
Turkey's main opponents are the Kurds (no air defense), Assad, Haftar (very conditional air defense). Extended sea and mountain borders. It is expensive and inefficient to fly fighters for such tasks.
Against opponents of the level of Greece, Egypt and Armenia, jet UAVs with a high rocket and bomb load, advanced by quasi-AI, are needed. This is the next step.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Grazdanin

we need jet UAVs with a high rocket and bomb load, advanced quasi-AI. This is the next step.

You understand, in order to pass it, you must be able to build a combat aircraft in the dimensions of the Yak-130 and motors for it at least from scratch.

Quote: Grazdanin

Assad,

The Turks managed to fuck the Syrians for one simple reason, for 8 years they stupidly got used to the fact that the sky is usually theirs, and they don’t need air defense, and if the Jews arrive, it will not help. When the Turkish UAVs began to process them, the Syrians went nuts from this, then they quickly pulled up Buki and Pantsyri and the drones began to fall. As far as I remember, 3 Bayraktar and 2 Anki were shot down. The Syrians, of course, declared 13 victories (6 downed Anoks and 7 Bayraktar)
In Libya, it is even more interesting - with that extremely conditional Hafftar air defense, the Bayraktar population of the Armor was thoroughly thinned (20 pieces are reliably only), and even part of their Wing Longs probably slammed out of fright. Moreover, the Armor was lost reliably 2. One of them was captured, another 2 to 4 are possible, but not confirmed ...

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Cyril G ...

You understand, in order to pass it, you must be able to pile a UBS of the Yak-130 type and motors for it at least from scratch.

Yeah. Naturally, they will not do it themselves, therefore they cooperate with various countries. With the same Chinese they made MLRS, for example.

Bayraktars "police" UAVs, what they were able to do on the brink of their capabilities. Organization and experience are more important there. These Akinchi are already too tough for shells. In theory, the latest modifications only "reach".
In general, the task of the MALE class UAV is reconnaissance, patrolling, strikes against single targets. That would help us a lot in Chechnya, Tajikistan, Ukraine, Syria, with the protection of the state. borders

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Grazdanin

These Akinchi are already too tough for shells.

For what reason? Meat...

[Oquzyurd]

During the tests, Akinchy threw a smart bomb at a target from 28 km distance and struck with pinpoint accuracy.

[Grazdanin]

SAM 57E6E range 20, height 15
Akinchi declared flight altitude 12 km, can use GBU-32 with a maximum range of 28 km
In the arsenal there is also a SOM-A cruise missile there at 200 km.

[Cyril G ...]

So the range or the far border of the affected area?

[Fedor Sokolov]

When will such news come about our attack UAVs, if we cannot bring our developments to mind, maybe it is really worth buying in China? As it was previously done by Kazakhstan, the countries of the Persian Gulf and Serbia.

[Grazdanin]

In China, the UAV is of poor quality. We are already buying from Israel, or rather we are producing under license.

[Fedor Sokolov]

I did not know that the PRC has bad drone UAVs! Although, to be honest, I haven't seen them.

[Oquzyurd]

The Chinese have reached an agreement with the Saudis worth 60 billion dollars to build military plants for them, including the production of UAVs.

[Hydrography Bay Golden Horn]

We would like this

[Dikson]

The only region in our country where strike and reconnaissance UAVs capable of long-term flights could be very useful is the Arctic. The coast is huge in length .. We started the birdie for 10-12 hours, and change your operators in shifts ... But there are problems with communication .. and with the weather ..

[Zaurbek]

This is the Ripert tax .. there is one theater for 1000hp. and here 2pcs of 500-600hp. A mock platform on which you can already hang and use aircraft weapons.