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Why is the post-Soviet space becoming anti-Russian?

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The events taking place today in neighboring Belarus give another reason for very sad conclusions. The post-Soviet state, traditionally considered the most reliable ally of our country, has actually found itself half a step away from becoming another "anti-Russia". And all this happened suddenly and, as always, "completely unexpectedly." Or - quite predictably and even naturally ...


Well, it’s high time to reflect on Moscow’s policy towards its own closest neighbors, for which the word “failed” suggests itself. At the same time, a sad paradox strikes the eye: the Bolsheviks, whom some are still trying to reproach for the “collapse of the Russian Empire,” just managed to hold on to almost all of its territories. Well, with the exception of the former, it is always the fault of Poland and Finland. What they missed right away (the Baltic states) was returned to the USSR later. But after the collapse of the "Union of Indestructible" things went much worse.

It is quite obvious that when “collecting lands” the leadership of the Land of Soviets, which belonged to the CPSU (b), played into the hands of the fact that in all the “self-determined” states after the revolutions of 1917, it had, if not party members, then at least one hundred percent political allies. And what about the situation with political parties or social movements, which, at least conditionally, could be ranked as “pro-Russian” in the “post-Soviet space”? Quite frankly.

The party of socialists in Moldova, headed by Dodon, seems to be in favor of "close cooperation" with Moscow, however, it does not strongly object to the "European integration" which is fundamentally contrary to this. The Ukrainian “Opposition Platform”, for all its extremely moderate reverence for Russia, consists entirely of former “regionals” and other figures of the same kind who calmly surrendered the country to the Maidan junta in 2014 and did not even try to portray resistance.

They are not pro-Russian, not pro-Western - they are nothing.

Only very big dreamers can talk about any forces “oriented towards Moscow” in the Baltic or Transcaucasia. Well, the East, as you know, is a delicate matter. In Central Asia, “pro-Russian forces” are also somehow not visible.

The most interesting thing is that there are more than enough potential members (and even more so, the electorate) of this kind of political forces in the countries that are the former Soviet republics. Hundreds of thousands (in the same Belarus or the Baltic States) or even millions (in Ukraine or Kazakhstan) Russian communities, numbering quite a few of those who would not mind not only strengthening ties with Russia, but even returning to the USSR - what not the most powerful potential to support them? However, surprising as it may seem, Moscow does not seem to need this “human resource” that wasted in vain. They prefer to go the other way - simple and ... wrong.

Consider this thesis using the example of the same Belarus. "Why develop some pro-Russian forces in the country if its president at every step swears of brotherhood and eternal friendship, signs documents on the creation of the Union State and generally leads the most loyal policy towards Russia, albeit with a distinct extortionate bias?" Obviously, this is how the Foreign Ministry, the Presidential Administration and other state structures responsible for foreign policy thought. But this very president "reformed" in the blink of an eye - to himself and to Russian interests in trouble. And what do you want to share now?

But we have already stepped on exactly the same “rake” in Ukraine with its supposedly “pro-Russian” Yanukovych, who first dragged the country to “integrate” into the EU, then backed up, and ultimately abandoned the country ineptly and cowardly. What else should happen so that the Kremlin (and not only there) will learn: the supply of gas and oil at "ridiculous" prices, the supply of modern weapons, again almost at cost, trade preferences, fabulous loans - all these are the rulers of those who consider themselves the strongly "independent" post-Soviet countries are very quickly taken for granted. And they start looking around: "What if someone gives more?"

And after all, they will give, even if for a while, even with a return! If they don’t, they will promise so, “packing” rather modest prospects into such attractive phrases that it will be difficult to resist them. China - to the Central Asian republics and the same Belarus, Europe - to Moldova and Ukraine, Turkey - to Azerbaijan, and the United States - to all of them put together ... One of Moscow's most important mistakes, systemic and persistently repeated, is an attempt to promote its own foreign policy interests in the "post-Soviet space", often acting through local oligarchs, other representatives of big business and their henchmen in state power. Or, if we talk about Minsk - exclusively directly through the “top officials” of the country.

I will not argue that Russia must certainly copy the experience and methods of overseas contractors who manage to defend their "vital interests" literally all over the world. However, to take a closer look at something, really, it would be worth it. First of all - to the methods of creating conditions for really mass support of the leaders and parties they like. This is done, for the most part, through the gradual and steady introduction of a whole network of non-profit, nongovernmental organizations that pursue the necessary policies, plant the necessary ideas, opinions, attitudes. In our country, for example, they often criticize various courses, trainings and entire schools that the West organizes for media representatives and promising politicians of the “post-Soviet space”. Are we so weak ourselves? ..

By themselves, neither pro-Russian leaders nor pro-Russian movements will emerge from the remnants of what was once the Soviet Union. They need to be raised, nurtured, strengthened and protected from attacks, to conduct continuous educational activities. And this can be done only by changing the concept of Moscow's foreign policy in the most radical way. Otherwise, in the very near future the phrase "we will never be brothers" will sound to Russia from all sides, even if the "lace panties" from the West for such speakers will turn out to be badly worn ...
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 10 August 2020 15: 48 New
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    Why is the post-Soviet space becoming anti-Russian?

    Because the Gauleiters don't care about the post-Soviet space. Their task is different, they earn money for themselves. Otherwise, Belarus and Ukraine would have been taken under "wing" long ago. There are a lot of levers and ways. To integrate the elite (will share) create a pro-Russian party .. in general, there would be a desire ..
    But ideology must also be attached to the desire .. people must understand where they are being led .. Now it is clear that in the cemetery .. (judging by the decline in population) .. but people do not want the cemetery .. they want to have a stable and just state , such a state can only be offered by socialism, another has not yet been invented ..
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 10 August 2020 16: 06 New
      -5
      Capitalism is so tough and pragmatic. Their own population is being exploited, and resources (natural and human) will be pulled out of the post-Soviet space dry and without a twinge of conscience. Here you have to compete with the West and China. But ours are quick to learn.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 10 August 2020 16: 12 New
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        Capitalism is so tough and pragmatic

        Selfish and cynical, rather cruel, not tough .. because what our Gazprom and Rosneftev billionaires are doing can hardly be called pragmatism ..
        But ours are quick to learn.

        For 30 years have not learned .. or is this time not enough? Ours do not learn anything .. unfortunately .. they are not capable ..
        1. sergey32
          sergey32 10 August 2020 16: 18 New
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          Even how you learned, imagine how much money the business raised on guest workers and how much it saved on the salaries of Russians.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 10 August 2020 16: 21 New
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            Quote: sergey32
            Even how you learned, imagine how much money the business raised on guest workers and how much it saved on the salaries of Russians.

            In this context, yes .. how to rip off people, they are masters here, they are fluent in this, they even surpassed the teachers ..
          2. New Year day
            New Year day 10 August 2020 16: 46 New
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            Quote: sergey32
            how much money the business raised on migrant workers

            And how many hated Russia did he bring up?
            1. Civil
              Civil 10 August 2020 17: 58 New
              +8
              1. The State Department is to blame.
              2. Geyropeans are to blame - they cheekily live richly.
        2. Campanella
          Campanella 12 August 2020 11: 35 New
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          Stimulation is necessary for a person to learn. And our market decides everything ... so he decides.
          And Putin's wishes do not fight against this objective reality, which he himself proposed.
          So the authorities should not only move their lips, but strain their heads.
          Otherwise, it turns out that only China thinks and does for us.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 10 August 2020 16: 48 New
        +7
        Quote: sergey32
        But ours are quick to learn.

        Therefore, rake on face regularly and receive laughing
        1. Amin_vivec
          Amin_vivec 11 August 2020 08: 54 New
          +9
          What are they learning?
          Is it because all anti-Russian sentiments were brought up on Russian money?
          When they learn to raise pro-Russian sentiments using Western money, then it will be possible to talk about it.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 11 August 2020 09: 12 New
            +4
            Quote: Amin_Vivec
            Is it because all anti-Russian sentiments were brought up on Russian money?

            So don't give money!
            1. Amin_vivec
              Amin_vivec 11 August 2020 09: 16 New
              +2
              Until they learned how to do it at someone else's expense, you still have to pay)))
              The question is how to do it effectively)))
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 11 August 2020 09: 21 New
                +7
                Quote: Amin_Vivec
                The question is how to do it effectively)

                People who believe that everything can be bought effectively cannot spend money
          2. atakan
            atakan 17 August 2020 02: 21 New
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            Why is the post-Soviet space becoming anti-Russian?

            Is it because all anti-Russian sentiments were brought up on Russian money?

            It was not so long ago, when billions of debts were written off, billions of irrecoverable loans were given, huge customs discounts for "friends of the politicians of the Aligarh" of those countries along our border and beyond.
            Now, the deductions and the scattering of money and weapons have lost weight and dried up to help in tens of millions of dollars at a time or for the transfer of weapons for Tajiks and Kirghiz.
            So with constant pressure from the State Department and threats of sanctions and confiscation of accounts in European banks, the Kazakh leader will not let him lie bully The quasi-anger of the elites will only grow.
            As if on our border everyone else crawled into the Latin alphabet, or even spoke English in five years.laughing
      3. Gennady Bogdanovich
        Gennady Bogdanovich 10 August 2020 22: 47 New
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        Why are nearby neighbors treating Russia badly, while the Far Abroad is much better?
        The answer is simple. I also talked a lot with Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Bulgarians, Balts. This is the conclusion I have come to.
        Since 1945, a number of countries have been involved in the USSR's zone of influence. In these countries, a communist ideology was adopted, a huge number of people linked their lives with communist ideology, cooperation with the CMEA, the Warsaw Pact, the USSR. It was a huge army of sincere and devoted friends of the Soviet Union. Yes, there were enemies of communism and the USSR, but the power in these countries was in the hands of FRIENDS. The economy developed, the well-being of the population grew, and all this was under the umbrella of the USSR.
        Suddenly, overnight, everything collapsed. Without war, for no apparent reason, the leadership of the USSR capitulated to the West, merged all its allies. Broke the fates of millions of friends of the Soviet Union.
        Many assessed this as a betrayal by the RUSSIANS. Betrayed by the Russians (neither Gorbachev, nor the Communist Party, nor the USSR, nor the Kyrgyz, nor Kazakhs, nor Ukrainians), namely the Russians, this is how the psyche works. How are traitors treated? Bad, they don't like traitors. Children will be ordered to "do not deal with the Russians, they are traitors."
        Far abroad, they love Russians. Without any effort on their part, a flow of money (hundreds of billions of dollars) went to Western banks. The nouveau riches from Russia bought up real estate, yachts, clubs, and made investments in industry. Why not love useful idiots who rob their country and develop potential opponents.
        1. Bar1
          Bar1 11 August 2020 00: 36 New
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          Quote: Gennady Bogdanovich
          The nouveau riches from Russia bought up real estate, yachts, clubs, and made investments in industry. Why not love useful idiots who rob their country and develop their potential

          then maybe not russkie, but Jews screwed up the USSR? They themselves say that they have destroyed the USSR. Che that is taking you to the wrong place.
        2. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 11 August 2020 12: 47 New
          +4
          Quote: Gennady Bogdanovich
          Since 1945, a number of countries have been involved in the USSR's zone of influence. In these countries, the communist ideology was adopted, a huge number of people connected their lives with the communist ideology


          Why nearby neighbors treat Russia badly,
          NOTHING ON EARTH PASSES INSANELY (s)
          1. Hungarian the 1956 uprising suppressed by Soviet troops
          2. SovietYugoslavian relations in 1949 were severed.
          3.August 21, 1968 and put an end to the reforms Prague Spring.
          The largest contingent of troops was allocated from the USSR. United group
          up to 500 thousand people and 5 thousand tanks and armored personnel carriers were killed in 36 hours, according to various estimates, up to 400 people.
          4. SovietAlbanian split - a political conflict in 1955-1961 between the USSR The complete break in relations between the countries in December 1961 became the final point of the Soviet-Albanian split.
          5 In 1968 Poland took part in the suppression of the Czechoslovak uprising. However, part of the Polish population disliked the Soviet authorities, which led to attacks on Soviet diplomatic missions. During 1989, a peaceful change of the system took place in Poland, the socialist regime was dismantled
          6 years ago, citizens East Germany, dissatisfied with life in the socialist camp, unexpectedly for everyone and for themselves, they crushed the guards of this camp and broke its fence - The Berlin wall, considered the most secure border in the world.
          7. Romania pursued a policy of cautious domestic political liberalization, and in the field of foreign policy - greater openness in relation to Western Europe and the United States. With regard to the Soviet Union, distancing itself from many of the USSR's initiatives (such as the deployment of troops to Czechoslovakia in 1968 and the deployment of troops to Afghanistan in 1979), while maintaining good relations with the countries of the eastern bloc.
          8. Bulgaria is the only country that dreamed of becoming the 16th republic in the USSR.
          1. Fan-fan
            Fan-fan 12 August 2020 09: 33 New
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            All our former "friends" ran away from us, as they saw that the West lives better, richer. We are even now poorer than the Europeans, and why should they be friends with us poor. They don't have the propaganda on TV that we have, so they see the truth about us and they don't like what is happening here.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 12 August 2020 12: 20 New
              +1
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              All our former "friends" ran away from us

              You correctly emphasized "friends", they were forcibly made "friends".
            2. vVvAD
              vVvAD 12 August 2020 14: 19 New
              +2
              Do you even understand what you wrote? fool
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              They don't have the propaganda on TV that we have

              Where does such brilliant knowledge come from - can you share the proofs?
          2. Siberian54
            Siberian54 12 August 2020 12: 21 New
            0
            GDR-EVERY EASTERN CITIZEN VISITING WESTERN BERLINN HALYAVU GOT 200 STAMPS, TWO YEARS AND NO BORDER ...
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 12 August 2020 12: 57 New
              0
              Quote: Siberian54
              GDR-EVERY EASTERN CITIZEN VISITING WESTERN BERLINN HALYAVU GOT 200 STAMPS, TWO YEARS AND NO BORDER ...

              And can you read about it?
              WHILE I KNEW ABOUT IT
              The citizens of the GDR made desperate attempts to escape from the "free and independent" socialist camp, which was guarded as a maximum security prison. Border guards are required were to shoot at everyone who approached the wall at a suspiciously close distance from the side of the GDR.
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 12 August 2020 13: 11 New
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                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                The border guards were obliged to shoot at everyone who approached the wall at a suspiciously close distance from the side of the GDR.

                Border guards are obliged to shoot at border trespassers in any country, if their demands are not met - is this the first time you hear about this?
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                The citizens of the GDR made desperate attempts to escape from the "free and independent" socialist camp, which was guarded as a maximum security prison.

                So why is it that now a huge number of East Germans want to return to their independent state, which was the GDR?
                Quote: Siberian54
                EVERY EASTERN CITIZEN VISITING WESTERN BERLINN HALYAVU GOT 200 STAMPS,

                This was in the first days after the demolition of the border in the fall of 1989. Then this practice was canceled, because it was decided to exchange eastern stamps for western ones at a certain rate for residents of the GDR. There was a period when eastern stamps were circulating in the eastern lands, but until a certain date, after which the stamps were no longer changed.
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 12 August 2020 13: 19 New
                  -5
                  Quote: ccsr
                  So why is it that now a huge number of East Germans want to return to their independent state, which was the GDR?

                  Thanks for the information.
                  But I'm not interested in this, I wrote about the reasons and who wants what, these are their problems.
                  And they will solve them themselves.
                  1. blackice
                    blackice 13 August 2020 08: 09 New
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                    Or maybe the reasons were different?
                    For example, in an ideological war.
                    As well as now.
                2. Siberian54
                  Siberian54 16 August 2020 19: 12 New
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                  It was not after the "demolition of the wall", but after the opening of the checkpoints in West Berlin .. The wall and the border guards stood for more than a year
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 16 August 2020 19: 51 New
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                    Quote: Siberian54
                    This was not after the "demolition of the wall", but after the opening of the checkpoints to West Berlin ..

                    I was talking about the demolition of the border between East and West Berlin, and not about the entire border of the GDR.
                    Quote: Siberian54
                    The wall and the border guards stood for more than a year

                    The wall may have stood, but we began to travel to West Berlin as soon as we received Western stamps, and there were no border guards anymore. At least in the summer of 1990, I already traveled to West Berlin, if my memory serves me right.
          3. Essex62
            Essex62 12 August 2020 14: 47 New
            +2
            Can you imagine how many flowers, inspired by the Freemasons, the Soviet Power strangled in the bud. The communist authorities of these countries were not so much opposed to help in this matter. They differed in tactics and particulars. Well, this is understandable to them - they will continue to live in their "village". And young Lenya and the company did not doubt the correctness for a second. Here, in 91 GKChP, they went overboard to give away and we received Byzantine-aligarchic capitalism, with the elments of feudalism. So far, it’s alimony, but the guys don’t stand still, they are improving.
          4. blackice
            blackice 13 August 2020 08: 06 New
            0
            31 years ago, the citizens of the GDR, dissatisfied with life in the socialist camp, unexpectedly for everyone and for themselves, crushed the guards of this camp and broke its fence - the Berlin Wall, which was considered the most protected border in the world.

            Uh-huh.
            Without the powerlessness of the political leadership of the USSR, they would have broken, of course.
            1. Siberian54
              Siberian54 17 August 2020 06: 13 New
              0
              Only originally broke the wall from West Berlin
        3. blackice
          blackice 13 August 2020 08: 04 New
          0
          Or maybe that's not the point, but the implantation of a certain image of the Russian from outside?
          Hailey Likely has been around since the Cold War. Only under the Soviet Union it was possible to get the very highlighted likely in the face for this without strong evidence, but now any crap like a sprat understatement allows itself to speak to Russia, and ours only make excuses.
          they fear the strong, not the proud.
      4. evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru
        evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru 12 August 2020 17: 10 New
        +4
        ,,Our,,? What are yours and what do they learn? Isn't it time to call a spade a spade? The author of this commentary delicately calls x "hucksters". And Stalin, for example, at one time such "specialists" delicately called "Trotskyists" ... As the Prophet Abel, who lived in the XNUMXth century, called him, let us say below.
        Traders seized power in Russia in the early 90s of the last century. Created ,, educational ,, state - ,, Russia Capitalist ,, (,, RK ,,). How does it relate to Russia? TO REAL RUSSIA, which has a well-established name for centuries - Holy Russia?
        Orthodox churches open? Cover, ,, fog ,,, ,, camouflage ,,. There is no patriarch (there is a mozvan), numbers are imposed on parishes, numbers are imposed on Orthodox Christians ... ,, Refined ,, Orthodoxy, ,, Moscow priests ,, country of Russia. They sneer at the icons, entrusting the release to random people and outright scoundrels. ... They make fun of the saints in the calendars, assigning invented nicknames, placing floating dates, etc.
        ... They impose a cult of crime on Russia, deliberately cultivate crime in the so-called. ,, zones ,,. It's Russia? Would the Russians, for example, allow the rapist and murderer of a little girl to live happily ever after in prisons at the expense of taxpayers? How can such a person come to mind at all? If the whole world of PEOPLE for centuries knows that the physical destruction of an ordinary non-human saves tens of lives of PEOPLE?
        Russia may still say something SIGNIFICANT to the world. But the state ,, RK ,, has nothing to say to the RUSSIAN PEOPLE (and other indigenous peoples inhabiting the country). “His,” people have nothing to say. What can they say about them to Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltic states, Kazakhstan ...? Is it only for the local rich: "Be fruitful and multiply ..."
        What have Novorossia been told in 6 years? P us that ... No roads, no salary, no culture .. no. Stupid, but noisy and "massive" measures of the type of concerts of artists that are no longer interesting to anyone in Kazakhstan. To put it mildly, the strange murders of the people's leaders ... This is “Big Brother”? RK - Big Brother?
        Russians have yet to create a decent and serious state on the territory of Russia. Then they will look at the country with admiration, they will envy its citizens, they will learn from it ...
        So how did Abel call this quasi-state on the territory of present-day Russia, this commercial “construction”?
        The Prophet called this - the Jewish yoke
        1. blackice
          blackice 24 August 2020 03: 36 New
          +1
          "Ours", not "Yours", not "Mine", namely our leaders. It doesn’t matter if it’s godfathers, politicians or just a bunch of drunks.
          Since this "Our" sits on our necks, it means that either we allow them, or everything suits us. We cannot do this, we don’t want to eat, because we are satisfied with this state of affairs, or we are waiting for happiness to be delivered to us directly to the apartment.
          Only Khabarovsk showed that they did not want to live under "Our" leaders.
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 11 August 2020 04: 19 New
      0
      Quote: Svarog
      ... people don't want to go to the cemetery ... they want to have a stable and just state, such a state can only be offered by socialism, they haven’t come up with another one yet ..

      I agree with this.
      And the article under discussion is at least strange because it is possible to consider the dispersal of the former Soviet republics and not touch upon the issue of the role of the social system only either by order or by deception.
    3. max702
      max702 11 August 2020 08: 16 New
      -11
      Another liberal groan .. The successes of the Bolsheviks are explained by one thing, namely the genocide and exploitation of the Russian people, due to which, to the detriment of whom and against which they massively took the wild outskirts for feeding and maintenance, which ultimately destroyed the Bolsheviks .. They did not need the Russian people , but the Soviet was needed! But nothing came of it, and as a result, the non-Soviet people did not work out and the Russian people were practically ruined .. The whole stench of our neighbors is not brothers just from indignation that they stopped feeding and drove from the neck of the Russian Vanya, from this all this boils and the desire to return in the blessed (for them) USSR .. Why are the elites of all these non-brothers so looking into the mouth of the world bourgeoisie? Because it can give them EVERYTHING! And what can Russia give them? Yes, yes it is PERSONAL to them? Practically nothing, a relatively well-fed life without excesses dear to the heart, and why should they be so deprived? Where are the accounts in world currency, the castles of the island's villas around the world, and most importantly, belonging to white people with what new owners can bestow .. After all, from the 404th prmo they said that they would rule by unreasonable lazy people with the permission of the Supreme Lord .. All the rest are nothing from the 404th, the thought is absolutely the same! Our home-grown people gradually understand that they will never be ranked among white people, and all the wealth given THERE oh, how temporary, hence the progress in the country, albeit small, hence at least some defense of their interests, because it became clear THEY are food for the High Elves and nothing more, but the limitorfs do not want to understand this in any way, because they are not even food, but cannon fodder .. Therefore, everything around is anti-Russian because it was ALWAYS that way! Life has proven it ..
      rs: Read the wonderful site "Svidomo Peremog Warehouse" where all these phenomena are beautifully dissected and arranged on the shelves ..
      1. Kalmar
        Kalmar 11 August 2020 08: 49 New
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        Quote: max702
        Another liberal groan .. The success of the Bolsheviks is explained by one thing, namely genocide and exploitation of the Russian people

        You confused the manual. About Bloody Stalin, who ate Russian children for breakfast - this is just in time for the so-called. "liberals". And the successes of the Bolsheviks are largely due to goal-setting: they still tried to build a strong, developed state, and not quickly plunder the imperial legacy and dump it into decline. It's another matter that the methods were sometimes extremely dubious, but that's another story.

        Quote: max702
        Why are the elites of all these non-brothers so looking into the mouth of the world bourgeoisie? Because it can give them EVERYTHING! And what can Russia give them? Yes, yes it is PERSONAL to them?

        A sudden revelation: any partnership at its core has some kind of benefit that each partner expects to receive. Let's say you have a business, your neighbor has a business. He invites you to unite and do things together. Obviously, your first step will be to figure out: what exactly is your benefit in this scenario? If you don't see any special benefits, and your neighbor's business is based mainly on eating up grandma's inheritance, then such a partnership is unlikely to be interesting to you.

        Quote: max702
        Therefore, everything around is anti-Russian because it was ALWAYS that way!

        Well, as always: everything is bad with us only because there are enemies around. It’s like that for everyone; I do not know the countries that the neighboring countries look at with constant mute adoration. There is an abundance of anti-American and anti-Chinese sentiments in, say, the world, but the United States and China for some reason do not suffer greatly from this. Perhaps it's worth looking for a problem on your side? Even more so that you, the problem, in general, partially voiced: we simply have nothing to offer potential partners in the long term.
        1. max702
          max702 11 August 2020 09: 02 New
          0
          All the fault of our country is "What they want to eat .." Everything .. This is the main reason and nothing more, Russia has something to take, and also there are prospects to become something more that the world bourgeoisie categorically cannot allow! The way the Bolsheviks ruled there can be seen from the current standard of living of citizens of Russia and citizens of the bratsk republics, who and at whose expense lived today, make it clear millions of Gaster from all these former .. And the fact that like "Russia must!" All in the forest .. Live on your own!
          The USA and the PRC are just beginning to dance, and we are an enemy, Emperor Paul, longstanding with centuries-old traditions, will not let us lie. And we can offer only sweat, blood and tears to potential ones, otherwise all these potential ones will burn with wood in the Russophobic flame kindled by their new owners .. It will not be better for them to just disappear, that's all .. But only the elite thinks about their well-being, about the fate of their countries and peoples, they should lay a big pile just to keep their bottom warm ..
          1. Kalmar
            Kalmar 11 August 2020 09: 27 New
            +2
            Quote: max702
            All the fault of our country is "What they want to eat .." Everything ..

            So everyone wants. And everyone tries to eat more, and alliances arise where joint efforts are able to snatch more than separately. In this respect, Russia is no different from others, and all these stories about "the whole world against us" are simply attempts to find external causes for internal problems.

            Quote: max702
            And we can offer potential only sweat, blood and tears

            Exactly. Do they need it? Russia now has a lot of problems, and it is quite expected that those wishing to get into it with us do not line up. Sweat, blood and tears are enough for everyone.

            Quote: max702
            otherwise, all these potential ones will burn with wood in the Russophobic flame kindled by their new owners

            This would sound convincing if a real getting up from its knees loomed on the horizon, when a revived and again strong Russia begins to remember who was blathering what about it. But, unfortunately, nothing of the kind is expected in the foreseeable historical perspective. And the West can already actively both encourage the right moods and scold for the wrong ones.
            1. max702
              max702 11 August 2020 11: 28 New
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              Quote: Kalmar
              Exactly. Do they need it? Russia now has a lot of problems, and it is quite expected that those wishing to get into it with us do not line up. Sweat, blood and tears are enough for everyone.

              These are flowers, berries will be later, it's like right now, Ruinda recalls the times of Yanukosch with aspiration .. And it will be even worse and much more .. They have one way of harnessing with us and plowing, but they chose Russophobia for which they will pay with an even greater decrease in living standards and the absolute loss of even the non-statehood that they have. The elites want to live today and now, but it will end badly both for them and for their peoples .. Compared to the 90s and the beginning of the 2000s, they got up from their knees and very much, I remember those years very well with the current state of the country and there is nothing to compare .. so the children need to prepare to answer not only to the new owners, but to those who used to groom and cherish and whom they had betrayed .. The Russians have already been reminded of the land.
              1. Kalmar
                Kalmar 11 August 2020 11: 58 New
                +8
                Quote: max702
                They have one way to harness with us and plow

                To plow - yes. And with us to harness specifically to them - why? To also feed the Russian oligarchy?

                Quote: max702
                but he chose Russophobia

                Russophobia, you call refusal to act in the interests of Russia? Well, yes, from this point of view, the whole world is susceptible to this infection, because, as already mentioned, everyone rowed for himself first of all.

                Quote: max702
                Compared to the 90s and the beginning of the 2000s, they got up from their knees and very

                90s - time of troubles, a separate story. And the "rise" in the 2000s is now reversed as soon as oil prices fell.
                1. max702
                  max702 11 August 2020 13: 01 New
                  -6
                  Quote: Kalmar
                  To plow - yes. And with us to harness specifically to them - why? To also feed the Russian oligarchy?

                  So as not to die for the interests of another oligarchy .. Their choice is not rich .. Either they will die with us, Moldova, the rodents seem to cry about it ..
                  Quote: Kalmar
                  Russophobia, you call refusal to act in the interests of Russia? Well, yes, from this point of view, the whole world is susceptible to this infection, because, as already mentioned, everyone rowed for himself first of all.

                  That is, they can? This is different to understand!
                  Quote: Kalmar
                  90s - time of troubles, a separate story. And the "rise" in the 2000s is now reversed as soon as oil prices fell.

                  So I now see those who then taxied us again are pulled there, but oil will not go anywhere, everyone needs, and the level of dependence on it is now much less than before .. Here it is more necessary to deal with the 5/6 column .. Threw off 14 weights and some country immediately healed better. here again type them feed. Let them live on their own, ikak and what they think of us there without a difference .. for the British, for example, there are no people behind the channel! And nothing live quite happily .. So for us outside the borders of Russia there are NO people!
                  1. Kalmar
                    Kalmar 11 August 2020 13: 20 New
                    +6
                    Quote: max702
                    So as not to die for the interests of another oligarchy ...

                    ... and die instead for ours? It is believed that this option is not particularly interesting to them.

                    Quote: max702
                    That is, they can?

                    Can you what? Follow your interests instead of ours? Well, yes, this is the whole idea of ​​the foreign policy of any normal state.

                    Quote: max702
                    and everyone needs oil, and the level of dependence on it is now much lower than before

                    Oil is needed, but something does not rise in price. It's even funny to talk about the level of addiction. As we trembled over its price in 2014, so now we continue.

                    Quote: max702
                    Here it is more necessary to deal with the 5/6 column ..

                    Yes, but the showdowns are traditionally not being conducted there: they are driving all sorts of bulk, and the real fifth column has long been walking around with deputy and ministerial crusts.
                    1. max702
                      max702 11 August 2020 17: 32 New
                      -6
                      Quote: Kalmar
                      and die instead for ours? It is believed that this option is not particularly interesting to them.

                      And where do we die for the oligarchs? I don’t even see that, but I see the growing standard of living and its duration ..
                      Quote: Kalmar
                      Can you what? Follow your interests instead of ours? Well, yes, this is the whole idea of ​​the foreign policy of any normal state.

                      Again, they can defend their interests, but we can't? how is that ? you didn’t re-learn this friend? Or "Russia must!"

                      Quote: Kalmar
                      Oil is needed, but something does not rise in price. It's even funny to talk about the level of addiction. As we trembled over its price in 2014, so now we continue.

                      Of course, of course, in your training manual, it is written so it means that it is.
                      .
                      Quote: Kalmar
                      Yes, but the showdowns are traditionally not being conducted there: they are driving all sorts of bulk, and the real fifth column has long been walking around with deputy and ministerial crusts.

                      But what about not long ago one such with crusts was closed, and the stench rose up .. The fight means not being waged, yeah ..
                      rs: If you're on a salary, you still have a better approach to work, otherwise your slogans are outdated a long time ago. and for such a hack, the employer will stop pouring 30 shekels ..
                      1. Kalmar
                        Kalmar 11 August 2020 17: 41 New
                        +1
                        Quote: max702
                        And where do we die for the oligarchs? I don’t even see that, but I see the growing standard of living and its duration ..

                        That's why our average life expectancy does not reach retirement age))

                        Quote: max702
                        Again, they can defend their interests, but we can't?

                        It is possible and necessary. You just don’t have to wait for other countries to simply harness themselves for our interests. They won't, and not because of Russophobia, but because they don't need it.

                        Quote: max702
                        Of course, of course, in your training manual, it is written so it means that it is.

                        You can pretend it isn't. It does not affect objective reality in any way.

                        Quote: max702
                        But what about not long ago one such with crusts was closed, and the stench rose up .. The fight means not being waged, yeah ..

                        It is being conducted, simply not with the fifth column, but inside it: they are fighting among themselves for a place closer to the feeding trough.

                        Quote: max702
                        If you still have a better approach to work on your salary, otherwise your slogans are outdated a long time ago. And for such a hack, the employer will stop pouring 30 shekels ..

                        As far as I understand, you have already leafed through the manual to the last point: "on the salary of the State Department", etc. I think this can be considered the end of the constructive phase of the discussion. Good luck, health, maybe someone will pour shekels / yuan / tugriks for your epistolary opuses)
                  2. Varyag71
                    Varyag71 12 August 2020 13: 07 New
                    +1
                    That's no need for fairy tales. Was in Georgia last year. In Batumi, to be more precise. Any our resort town to Batumi is like a crawl to the moon.
      2. dog of war
        dog of war 14 August 2020 14: 47 New
        0
        And where are these non-brothers trying to enter the new USSR? As far as I know, not brothers, on the contrary, against the restoration of the USSR.
    4. Maverick78
      Maverick78 11 August 2020 09: 15 New
      +1
      Under which wing?) Russia will not pull the feeding of Ukraine and Belarus, except that much to its own detriment. And they don't really want to feed themselves, at least Ukraine. Here the mainstream is ... someone owes us something all the time)
      1. dog of war
        dog of war 14 August 2020 14: 48 New
        0
        Ukraine is just yelling that she does not need Russia and she does not want the USSR.
    5. truck driver
      truck driver 11 August 2020 14: 45 New
      0
      people ... they want to have a stable and just state, only socialism can offer such a state, they have not yet invented another.

      Let me tell you a secret - this is how the whole of Europe and the developed countries of the world live, without any -isms. What prevents you from studying the structure of social management in Germany, where everything is done for people.
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 12 August 2020 14: 59 New
        0
        Are you German? Do you live in Germany?
        And by the way, with such isms live that zhurnalyug closed for the wrong publication and the work can not poperet for loyalty to the policy of guilt before the Arabs and Nigeria.
        1. truck driver
          truck driver 12 August 2020 17: 03 New
          +1
          At work I'm in Germany often and see how they live the Germans in the towns and villages, so ordinary Germans do not care sho there with zhurnalyugi and policies of the Arabs and Nigeria, they just work, and the state operates and is accountable to them through mers is invisible for grandmother Merkel The Germans have already voted three times, which means that they are completely satisfied with the state policy.
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 12 August 2020 21: 41 New
            +1
            Blessed is he who believes. All over the world these voted fiction and again fiction. Power cannot depend on the population, otherwise it will not want to become it. Who will allow the Fritz, Ivan and Smith to get closer to the big dough, well, to power, i.e. And I don’t need to tell me that the Germans do not care about the antics of the untouchable Arabs. My friend, an ethnic German who left for permanent residence there is forced to accompany other such emigrants from the USSR and the Russian Federation to organize children to and from school. Police muzzles turn away from the atrocities of blacks. Themselves are pressed for not being politically correct.
  2. Gardamir
    Gardamir 10 August 2020 15: 49 New
    45
    The author guessed well with the name, but because Russia is also anti-Russian, if not parodaxic.
    1. Legionista
      Legionista 10 August 2020 17: 23 New
      28
      Hundreds of thousands (in the same Belarus or the Baltics) or even millions (in Ukraine or Kazakhstan) Russian communities, numbering quite a few of those who would not mind not only strengthening ties with Russia, but even returning to the USSR - what not the most powerful potential to support them?

      It is not visible, something, from the Russian-speaking communities of the Baltic States, wishing to move to Russia, even the so-called. "non-games" are in no hurry to move to Russia. Apparently, in their republics they are much better off than in their "historical homeland." And what can our country offer now for immigrants, a "Far Eastern hectare"? An "uncertain" pension at 65? 10% mortgage? Migration flows speak for themselves - people leave where it is worse, where it is better. That is why we have guest workers from Central Asia, and do not have from the Baltic states (they are all in Ireland and England). As soon as Russia becomes attractive in terms of economic development, everyone will immediately remember their Russian roots and start talking in the "great and mighty" good
      1. Kisa
        Kisa 10 August 2020 19: 37 New
        +5
        I agree - the message of the article is correct - the last republic will run away the other day. time to change something in the conservatory. as the author writes -... various courses, trainings and whole schools .... not sure if this is what was brought back by our former allies. as it turned out, economic preferences are not very closely related. for some reason they are afraid to cooperate with Russia ...
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 10 August 2020 21: 23 New
      +7
      The author went over the top, but did not cover the main topic - all of the above consequences - of the legacy of the mediocre vector of foreign policy.
      The author listed the templates of our media: cheap gas and oil, the latest weapons ...
      If you dig deeper, then gas, for the same Ukraine, was supplied at an adult price, and weapons ... Where are the T90s skating and the Su 57s flying? In Belarus? In Moldova?!
      Does the power "because of the teeth" think that it has thrown a bone and will fall on its knees in front of it? You need to be closer to reality!
      1. Maverick78
        Maverick78 11 August 2020 09: 23 New
        +5
        I guess it's not about throwing the dice. The author pointed out correctly. Certain work was carried out with the authorities and large "businessmen". And there was no support from the forces oriented towards good relations with Russia in the "less elite" segment. In order not to irritate the local "princelings". As a result, the "princelings" were bought by those who had more money, and there was simply no organized force "from below", in contrast to the opponents.
  3. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 10 August 2020 15: 49 New
    -14
    The soviet dream is still alive: "We will do it according to the advice of the West and we will live richly like the richest in the West."
  4. Dmitry Ivanov_6
    Dmitry Ivanov_6 10 August 2020 15: 54 New
    18
    "They are not pro-Russian, not pro-Western - they are not." our leaders are not at all, they are afraid of the menacing gaze of their foreign master. if there was political will, there would be neither Russophobic Georgia nor Ukraine.
  5. veritas
    veritas 10 August 2020 15: 57 New
    10
    Otherwise, in the very near future the phrase "we will never be brothers" will sound to Russia from all sides

    Even in Russia itself.
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    1. Kisa
      Kisa 10 August 2020 19: 56 New
      -6
      Yes, shake off the dust of history from your greatcoat. already a whole generation has grown up who have only heard from stories about the USSR. Are you these 30-year-olds going to campaign how you lived well in your youth? and my parents concluded that their state was thrown into life ...
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 11 August 2020 08: 21 New
        0
        The country has grown up and is eating, destroying the ties, way of life, foundations and traditions of the Russian community. Brought up on the principles of individualism, alien, brought from the rotten, bourgeois, homosexually pedophilic West, they do not know what they are doing to please their stomach and thirst for pleasure and comfort. With such people until the final collapse of the country, half a step.
        1. Antonio_Mariarti
          Antonio_Mariarti 11 August 2020 11: 45 New
          -1
          It is not clear how the West lives with such foundations and, moreover, very well and did not fall apart ...
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 11 August 2020 17: 07 New
            -2
            Well, yes, well, yes. That’s there, that every day the cars burn, the policemen are fiddling, the windows are crushing.
            Well, in the west there is a bunch of backbone predators, the rest are workers. It's the same with us, only we don't get buzzed. Not trained in class struggle.
            1. Antonio_Mariarti
              Antonio_Mariarti 12 August 2020 01: 09 New
              +2
              It’s the same with us, heh, when it’s common for them to buy a car, how to change the microwave for us.
              1. Essex62
                Essex62 12 August 2020 06: 31 New
                -1
                Fairy tales, the British spend the night in 2x2 pencil cases and cannot cook at home, because normal housing is extremely expensive. Auto, a piece of stamped sheet metal. Taking into account the fact that their auto industry, at the suggestion of states that have not fought on their territory, which can develop without the problems of a hostile environment, has been developed for a very long time, there is nothing surprising. Our people do not run there for benefits. Just living in a country ruled by yesterday's bandits and swindlers is disgusting to the essence of a normal person. Only very quickly they understand, having come running, that it is even worse if the dough has not been stolen here.
                1. Antonio_Mariarti
                  Antonio_Mariarti 12 August 2020 12: 05 New
                  0
                  Let's turn to the real facts of well-being - this is how much percent of income you spend on food, RF: Russians in the middle segment in terms of income spend from 10% to 39,1% on food, while the wealthiest citizens spend from 10% to 18,4%. On average, food costs account for a third of wages. and the Germans give away about 14 percent of all consumer spending on food. "
                2. Essex62
                  Essex62 12 August 2020 14: 36 New
                  -1
                  First-hand information. A fellow soldier has lived in Germany for a long time, his wife's niece in Italy. There is not any particular difference. And we and them, in order to live more or less normally, we must work hard regardless of health. While there is work, in the same Italy, becoming unemployed is a very sad fate. Especially after the surrender of the Union by degenerates, when most of the social sphere is gayropes, the bourgeoisie were liquidated. There is no union, the opposition of the two systems is gone, why should the workforce be gifted with benefits. And some nasty individuals are brought by plane delicacies to their personal castle, so that they can be fresh
                  I'm talking about that. The fact that after the coup of 93 we have everything through the seat, I know without you. And how much I spend on grub, by myself.
      2. ccsr
        ccsr 11 August 2020 11: 22 New
        -3
        Quote: kitty
        and my parents concluded that their state was thrown into life ...

        Was it not your parents who shouted “Down with the Communist Party of the Soviet Union!” In 1991? Maybe it was not their state that threw them, but they themselves believed that they would be given jelly banks, if they just throw off the CPSU?
        Quote: kitty
        already a whole generation has grown up who have only heard from stories about the USSR.

        And what did it add to their mind, since they do not want to learn the lessons of the past?
        1. Antonio_Mariarti
          Antonio_Mariarti 11 August 2020 11: 46 New
          -1
          How could you maintain when, due to the policy of the USSR, there was not enough food in stores?
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 11 August 2020 16: 52 New
            +3
            Who told you this or found it in the tyrnet. No, such a period really took place, when a sent Cossack woman, an agent of the zaluzhny evil spirits who climbed onto the Kremlin stool, with the help of the workers 'and peasants', Bolshevik Office, which had ceased to be, rocked the Moscow flower. Everything is according to the script of the owners. They have repeated this more than once or twice, on a smaller scale.
            At the commodity stations were packed with grub, smoke, alcoholic compositions, but it was strictly forbidden to send it to the trade. And given the fact that the communists, the hunchback gang, uprooted earlier, there was no one to object. So the hucksters drowned slightly, the responsible comrades expressed their concern - as if the people of that did not rebel. What, in fact, they wanted.
            The fact that there were so many decomposed in the country, so why be surprised? The selfish psychology of man, laid down by nature, must be relentlessly kicked out "with a cross and a pestle". The carriers of the idea relaxed. The class struggle disappeared completely from the minds of those who had to watch. Classless society, Great community - the Soviet people. And that people were made up of shop workers, currency dealers and other lebers, such as Makar.
            Believe me, up to this point, the Union lived progressively and aggressively.
            1. Antonio_Mariarti
              Antonio_Mariarti 12 August 2020 01: 05 New
              0
              Yes, yes, and the people who came out in Moscow in defense of Yeltsin are also sent Cossacks, and do you know how many of them came out? And everything else is water. He lived and did the right thing - yes, yes. I don't understand how else people believe that one person can destroy a huge system.
              1. Essex62
                Essex62 12 August 2020 15: 39 New
                0
                I know I watched. Not so much by the standards of the population of the USSR. Here is the same loud-voiced liberda with the shopkeepers and currency dealers mixed in. Well, there were enough naive idiots, where without them. They are, as they reasoned, social sphere like in the USSR and Western clothes and cars. In life, it will come
                And they had no idea that the huckster would be pushed up on the scruff of the neck, depriving all the gains of socialism. Well, there were enough pissed off lack of vodka and smoke. Our man, for half a liter he will tear someone up, and pour someone on the tank he will pile up and he will scream. And this I observed directly.
                Not one person, but a system. The one that hit the same point throughout the history of the Soviet state, regardless of any expenses, decomposing, decomposing, decomposing. Human morbidity is initially selfish, because he is a beast, a predator by nature. This is what they played on. Now they are partners, ours are the same. A unique phenomenon in the history of mankind, the real equality of people, was ruined.
                1. Antonio_Mariarti
                  Antonio_Mariarti 13 August 2020 22: 17 New
                  0
                  Because people wanted to live in comfort, like in the west. We saw enough pictures, listened to music and went off, the USSR did nothing to raise the welfare of citizens. Indeed, by all indicators of "comfort" we lagged behind.
      3. dog of war
        dog of war 14 August 2020 14: 53 New
        0
        I completely agree that the new generation is not interested in fairy tales about a happy USSR, but the level in the pernicious West is not that visible, but you can taste it.
  7. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 10 August 2020 16: 01 New
    +6
    The post-Soviet state, traditionally considered the most reliable ally of our country
    who was considered ?!
    can the author name examples of this "reliability"?
  8. Old partisan
    Old partisan 10 August 2020 16: 01 New
    20
    "Moscow" does not need Russians in Russia, and the rest ... there is no talk about them.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 10 August 2020 21: 27 New
      +5
      Quote: Old partisan
      "Moscow" does not need Russians in Russia

      One gets the same impression.
    2. ccsr
      ccsr 11 August 2020 12: 12 New
      -4
      Quote: Old partisan
      "Moscow" does not need Russians in Russia and the rest

      Well, why then simplify the acquisition of citizenship for all Russians who want to return to Russia?
      Quote: Old partisan
      there is no talk about them.

      I agree - these must first be made to love our Motherland, and not look at it as a source of enrichment.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 11 August 2020 13: 20 New
        +3
        Quote: ccsr
        Well, why then simplify the acquisition of citizenship for all Russians who want to return to Russia?

        Give a link about Russians, curious. And about the incomprehensible term - "compatriots" - not worth it. This hypocritical name makes it possible for the Kyrgyz (for example, who have their own national state) to obtain citizenship on the same grounds as the Russians.
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 11 August 2020 19: 10 New
          -5
          Quote: Tank Hard
          Give a link about Russians, curious.

          Here's what was introduced by the April law:
          3. Persons without citizenship, adults and capable persons who are former citizens of the USSR, lived and live in the states that were part of the USSR, and did not receive the citizenship of these states, will be able to obtain Russian citizenship in a simplified manner without the need for five-year residence permits and without confirmation income.
          7. In a simplified manner, citizenship is also obtained by foreign citizens or stateless persons recognized in the manner prescribed by law by native speakers of the Russian language, in the event that these persons or their relatives in a direct ascending line permanently reside or previously permanently lived on the territory of the Russian Federation or on the territory belonging to the Russian Empire or the USSR, within the State border of the Russian Federation.

          https://anna-news.info/v-iyule-2020-goda-uprostitsya-poluchenie-grazhdanstva-rf-2/
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 11 August 2020 20: 44 New
            0
            Foreign citizens or stateless persons also obtain citizenship in a simplified manner, recognized in the manner prescribed by law as native speakers of the Russian language,

            A somewhat florid wording, again it is necessary to establish, but how to establish and who will represent this law? Are they just shy about calling them Russians? And how many did not live, were disappointed? Here people look and think, and whether "Moscow" needs him. And the conclusions are disappointing. And they are disappointing for the state. But the leaders do not think about it yet, apparently. And when they think about it, it may be too late. And the people can change, and the mentality, and the state, and maybe there will be several states instead of one, as happened with the USSR. IMHO.
  9. unaha
    unaha 10 August 2020 16: 03 New
    14
    To do this, you need to offer some prospects and benefits from cooperation. The West offers freedom, the rule of law, independence, prosperity (albeit potentially) to all citizens of the post-Soviet states. What can Moscow offer?
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 10 August 2020 16: 48 New
      23
      What can Moscow offer?
      .... Resetting the dates ..
      1. unaha
        unaha 10 August 2020 17: 27 New
        +4
        An excellent offer for the elites (although many of them are in the subject themselves), but not for citizens)))
  10. Alexga
    Alexga 10 August 2020 16: 06 New
    +9
    Dear author, my question is what do you mean by the term "Russian"? Judging by the antics of the voters at the Embassy of the Republic of Belarus in Moscow, where a crowd of people who left Belarus for Russia are chanting something under the fat-meat-greasy flags. So this is not Belarus or Belarus, here they are at the level of a statistical error. Yes, and this flag is very stained, including blood, and it was raised twice under the German occupation and once after the collapse of the Union for a couple of years, until people changed their minds. I will write right away for the offended, the creator of this flag is Claudius Duzh-Dushevsky, 1918. Thanks to the current Lithuanian authorities, who published the KGB archives. And Belarus should not be associated with anti-Russian sentiments. There is a single People, and there is the current leadership of the Russian Federation, which, unfortunately, does not care much about the needs of its people. Here somewhere there was a resident of the Bryansk region with a nickname, I think. Sergei32, who spoke loudly about the great achievements of this area in growing potatoes. So I just recommend him to take the Surazh-Unecha-Novozybkov-Zlynka route and just look around. I am not voicing my conclusions. There are two countries that currently have different political and economic systems. The contradictions will disappear, the wrong thoughts on the anti-Russianness of Belarus will disappear. And that the face of the Russian Federation in Belarus is not very good now, thanks to your Babich.
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 10 August 2020 16: 17 New
      +2
      For those curious about the flag - http://vitbich.org/kak-belo-krasno-belomu-flagu-vydumyvali-mnogovekovuyu-istoriyu/
      I can't give a link to the opps' sites, there is no access to them and the Internet lays down.
      1. Doctor
        Doctor 10 August 2020 17: 46 New
        +3
        For those curious about the flag - http://vitbich.org/kak-belo-krasno-belomu-flagu-vydumyvali-mnogovekovuyu-istoriyu/
        I can't give a link to the opps' sites, there is no access to them and the Internet lays down.

        Interesting, thanks. There, the whole region is in the subject, the flag of Latvia is red-white-red.
        https://geraldika.ru/article/7069
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 10 August 2020 17: 57 New
          +3
          https://geraldika.ru/article/7069

          Very curious, did not know the history of this flag, with the Austrian difference only in the saturation of the tone of red.
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 10 August 2020 16: 51 New
      +5
      There are two countries that currently have different political and economic systems.
      ... in principle, it is the same, with its resource flavor ...
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 10 August 2020 17: 27 New
        +5
        Well, not really. In political affairs, the governing bodies seem to be the same, but in the GF in the State Duma, candidates are elected according to party lists, and in the Republic of Belarus, voting for a specific person who is obliged to meet with voters periodically, collect complaints and wishes, give answers to them, although sometimes it comes down here to the point of absurdity. I had such a case myself, I bought chocolate in a store, it turned out to have a whitish bloom, as I was buying for children, it was somehow inconvenient. In the simplicity of his soul, he rolled up a body whose shop had an electronic letter with the words, it was not a sin to control what their subordinates sell for prestige. I wrote it and forgot. Then, 12 days later, I received an answer to the box with an examination attachment, with a reply from the manufacturer (Kommunarka) that everything is fine here, but they will pay more attention to these issues. I call them back on the number in the letter, and say: What, you have nothing to do if you compose such detailed answers, I wrote to you about what the buyer is facing. And they answer me that they MUST give a detailed answer within 14 days. Of course, I knew that every structure has a book on complaints about the organization's activities, but I didn't know what was so harsh. And in cases in Russia is there a reality to reach out to the elected party and get an answer from them? In Belarus there is an opportunity to write a cart on the president's website, and his administration MUST give an answer. It is clear that Lukashenka positions himself with such things as a “people's” President. BUT as it is, so it is.
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 10 August 2020 20: 21 New
          +2
          Differences are serious ... No, parties cannot be reached. Sometimes they write complaints to deputies, they react ... but it doesn't get any better ... We have a lot of them, but there are systemic ones, and there are not systemic ones. Because of 5% barrier, many cannot prove themselves in the Duma, those who passed the barrier are supported by the state, in other words, on the salary of the state ..
          1. Alexga
            Alexga 10 August 2020 21: 19 New
            +2
            And how are local authorities formed, those that govern cities and villages? They are at arm's length! To the question "I promised! Why didn't I?" they must at least somehow answer. I looked at my native Bryansk region - no words! Someone has to answer for the deed. And then, managers like uncut dogs, and a mess all around. But they put up signs "Urban settlement such and such", you see, there is a settlement, but the city has already disappeared!
  11. Woodman
    Woodman 10 August 2020 16: 06 New
    -8
    a sad paradox: the Bolsheviks, whom some are still trying to reproach for the “collapse of the Russian Empire,” just managed to hold on to almost all of its territories.
    Armed, I dare say. At a time when all possible geopolitical opponents were licking their wounds after the world war.
    However, surprising as it may seem, Moscow does not seem to need this “human resource” that wasted in vain.
    Again, this would lead to armed conflicts. The only difference is that the army at that time is actually collapsed, the people are divided, and geopolitical opponents from NATO are at their peak in the West, the growing and not entirely friendly China in the East, plus Japan with its dream of the Kuril Islands.
    The only chance is the threat of using a vigorous loaf on everything in a row in order to keep everyone from interfering. But this was impossible under Boris.
    The easiest (and more correct) way was to arrest and put all those who disagree on the basis of a referendum on the preservation of the Union. But no one dared. Or he couldn't.
    1. TAMBU
      TAMBU 10 August 2020 16: 16 New
      13
      Armed, I dare say. At a time when all possible geopolitical opponents were licking their wounds after the world war.

      If you were not taught at school such a period in the history of the Soviet Republic as "intervention", then I recommend reading on your own, so as not to look stupid when chipping off such pearls ...
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 10 August 2020 16: 22 New
        -3
        Quote: TAMBU
        such a period in the history of the Soviet Republic as "intervention"

        But what if we really assess the pre-war and post-war capabilities of the interventionist countries, and also take into account the desire of the population of these countries to immediately get into another from one war? Or is it outside the scope of the school curriculum?
        1. TAMBU
          TAMBU 10 August 2020 16: 36 New
          +4
          Well, estimate - the United States for example. Japan can be appreciated. Yes, and the British Empire was a dangerous rival to any enemy except the United States, perhaps, but at sea, probably the most formidable rival in the world ... the population's desire was not particularly asked, and therefore after a terrible war there was an invasion of Soviet Russia ... which lasted 7 years by the way. This is so, an introduction to the course of affairs under the general title "Civil War in Soviet Russia"
    2. dog of war
      dog of war 14 August 2020 15: 01 New
      0
      [/ quote] The easiest (and more correct) way was, on the basis of a referendum on the preservation of the Union, to arrest and put to the wall all those who disagree. But no one dared. Or could not. [Quote]

      That is, to put millions against the wall?
  12. RUnnm
    RUnnm 10 August 2020 16: 09 New
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    Because we are neither economically, nor ideologically, nor socially not a step ahead of our enemies, who lure our former neighbors with promises of a bright future, fill them with cookies and educate their new generation on their ideology.
  13. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 10 August 2020 16: 11 New
    +3
    I'll put it simply ... hi
    Russia would have introduced in its law on citizenship that anyone who was born in the USSR, like his children, becomes citizens of the Russian Federation - would already be the USSR-2 good drinks Well, the way Russia itself distanced itself from the Russians as much as possible in the former republics of the USSR - it is reaping the fruits of its policy, so to speak recourse crying
  14. Pravodel
    Pravodel 10 August 2020 16: 11 New
    +1
    Good article, correct. If Russia does not attend to the creation of pro-Russian masses inside its breakaway outskirts, the result will indeed be sad. And we will soon see that under the influence of Soros and other NGOs, all the fragments of great Russia and the USSR will suddenly turn out to be Poles, and even worse, Banderlog. Then we run in and we will shout: how can it be, they are ours, Russians ...
    The reason for the existing relations with our former outskirts is not that Russia does not want to, cannot influence the population of the adjacent states, but that statesmen are not interested in this, that since the collapse of the USSR and the coming to power in Russia, a liberalist ... For some lobby, the idea of ​​ruling and the existence of Russia as an appendage of the West has not been completely eliminated. And in this sense, any actions aimed at promoting the idea of ​​the Russian world, soft power are blocked or launched into a bureaucratic merry-go-round with no sense. So it turns out, having an infinitely rich potential for the development of soft power in the states adjacent to Russia, this soft power turns out to be ineffective - no money for her... And as you know, the nightingale is not fed with fables, you need another piece, and not a small one, to chew and swallow.
    It should be recalled that the Bolsheviks, even in the years of the most severe devastation, by any means promoted their ideas in the West and in adjacent states. Therefore, they were able to assemble the country and build the USSR after the collapse of Russia in 1917.
    Taking into account the need to promote Russia's interests in the near and far abroad, the lack of funds for promotion must be viewed as a betrayal of Russia's interests with all the ensuing consequences. Maybe then our liberals in the government will move and start allocating money for this activity, which is extremely necessary for Russia.
    1. depressant
      depressant 10 August 2020 18: 25 New
      +9
      True, this thought of yours is the key to everything:

      "... since the collapse of the USSR and the liberal ... lobby came to power in Russia, the idea of ​​ruling and the existence of Russia as an appendage of the West has not been completely eliminated."

      The country's leadership is not outdated and, it seems, is not going to get rid of this idea. Does he need it? And if someone demands to get rid of, then he is invited to peer at the former brothers as to the enemy's environment and see potential aggressors instead of contemporaries, who, well, they were lured, but they are not lured, they are dangerous, they want to join NATO, they need to defend themselves. Because they lured in, betting on people like themselves. I mean our "smart" government. They bet on conditional "Yanukovychs" ...

      But most importantly, we do not have such an idea that we could offer as attractive. Capitalism? So the West and China have been offering it for a long time, and we are in the tail of the queue with our undeveloped and not showing the ability to develop. Who needs it.

      And further. The Russian leadership shows off not respecting not only Russian citizens, but also compatriots abroad, denying them citizenship and relocation to their homeland under any pretexts. People don't ask for anything, only a passport, but no, no and no! Thirty years have passed and until now nothing has changed.
      Although no, it has changed. A creeping suggestion began, barely noticeably slipping in the press and therefore especially affecting the subconsciousness of Russian citizens: "those" have not yet moved, which means they do not need Russia, therefore, Russia does not need them themselves. Like, they are not compatriots. And if we have not moved, then let them be our fifth column. Let there be, thinks an ordinary Russian citizen, conveniently deciding the fate of the unfortunate for himself, his mouth is full of worries. And in the former Soviet republics they openly laugh at this, not respecting us for this state of affairs - both there, at home, and here, coming to us.
      So it turns out that we cannot unite our own, but we are trying to unite strangers with us, believing that they do not see anything. Everyone sees everything. You can consider our own not very smart - well, you know what word I meant. But strangers won't allow themselves to think so. And they are not. They understand perfectly well that to unite with us in an alliance of any kind means to unite with our super-greedy oligarchy, unbridled corruption, disregard for laws and the lack of industrial development based on their own technologies.
    2. Antonio_Mariarti
      Antonio_Mariarti 11 August 2020 11: 48 New
      0
      If she didn’t bring up her youth to be pro-Russian, then what about other countries?
  15. Maks1995
    Maks1995 10 August 2020 16: 12 New
    +4
    In general, nationalism, dislike of neighbors is one of the hallmarks of capitalism.
    "We will not give our oligarchs and the authorities an insult" is the slogan of not only RB, Ukrov, Southern countries, but also Russia.

    The Kremlin will stand up to their defense, it is worth some of them to fall asleep, for example, with taxes in France ...
  16. TAMBU
    TAMBU 10 August 2020 16: 14 New
    10
    Why is the post-Soviet space becoming anti-Russian?
    because national capital will always tear each other's throats. The Russian is trying to absorb the peripheral, the capital of the former Soviet republics resists this with the only method that it knows how - the idea of ​​nationalism ... when there is something to share, there are those who will do it ...
  17. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 10 August 2020 16: 18 New
    +1
    Is it necessary to pay attention to all this in the 21st century, objectively? Putting all these beautiful fairy tales about brotherhood, historical traditions, etc. outside the brackets. Our neighbors are states that have generally invariantly chosen nationalism and have been fostering it for 30 years already. A significant part of the cooperative industrial cooperation remaining from the USSR has already been safely buried, with the rest there is a greater confidence that this will also happen for the same political (external and internal) reasons. Zrobitch citizens will come to us in any case - the example of Ukraine shows this very well.
    But I am extremely skeptical about the question of our political influence - practice has shown that all these "allies" are just another black hole for Russian money, resources and weapons. The political systems of these states are deeply archaic and are still based on the remains of Soviet CPSU-shaped structures and figures of the "stagnant Komsomol" - which means that at any moment everyone there can turn their topsy-turvy, change power, chase us away with the same brooms and not return loans ... And we do not have any healthy tools that we can use to influence this situation - and it is not profitable to create them in such an environment even now. Because the economic value of the market in these countries for us (in our and their current state) does not contribute to the payback of long and costly combinations with a high degree of risk.

    We clung to a number of these countries like a crab, proceeding from political interests first of all - all this exaggerated leafy pathos of a certain union, which has long outlived its own, being the muddy fruit of the 90s. Now we need to take care, first of all, about our economy and stable partners - we need to let this riffraff go on all four sides.
    1. depressant
      depressant 10 August 2020 21: 02 New
      +6
      Knell, it won't work for all four. Doesn't even come out in one. Geography. Under the conditions of non-use of nuclear weapons, military strategists still need buffer territories as protection against sudden ground actions of the enemy; they also need a "riffraff" in a loyal performance. But the authorities of the geographical neighbors are tormented by an inferiority complex and torture their peoples, forcing them to nationalism - the unrighteousness of the actions of the authorities of one country by the others begins to be identified with the unrighteousness of the people subject to it. The power in Russia, proceeding from the need for a buffer in the form of the same Belarus, is tormented by the fact that it does not consider Russia the first guy in the village, and Belarus - that it cannot be such by definition.
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 10 August 2020 23: 09 New
        0
        You argue on the basis of archaic concepts. We live in an era very saturated with information - the concentration and transportation of significant amounts of equipment and troops cannot be hidden even if we try VERY hard. What do you think - which is simpler and more reliable - to maintain an adequate satellite constellation and a sleeping intelligence network in eastern Europe, as well as a couple of analytical headquarters - or spoon-feed resources to a neighboring authoritarian regime that throws big tantrums every couple of years and small ones every six months? And hope that the troops under the direct control of this regime will become a "human shield" effective enough to delay the prepared and well-coordinated operation of the largest military bloc in its direction for a long enough time?

        And now imagine - with what ease on the nationalist soil of the "crushed by the neighboring colossus" independent Belarus will fall arguments about the damage in the event of such a situation for Belarus itself. Do you think the fraternal impulse will last for a long time? I have already drawn attention to the fact - we are withdrawing and withdrawing the remaining military facilities from the republics of the former USSR because it is economically and politically expensive, because it is unreliable in the strategic plan. I would like to believe that Blr is a "type of exception" - in fact, it is just a country more dependent on us, on which, unfortunately, we are also increasingly dependent. And addiction is not cool and not great for security. Because people like Old Man are an attractor of orange revolutions, in principle, and if this happens, they will ask us from Blr with a high degree of probability. Or we will have to "keep" it, contributing to the conservation of the regime (as we already did in Ukraine). And then a piece of our security will be in an open field. I point out this and it seems to me that it is time to do something with this, so as not to step on the already hateful rake again.
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 11 August 2020 09: 58 New
          0
          There is not any confrontation between the West and our modern Byzantine state and local, national kings and khans. Here, the peoples inhabiting the territory of the USSR have, but the bourgeois authorities do not. They are part of the system and obey indirectly, and some of them, in fact, to a single center behind a puddle. Serving the golden calf.
          And you will not wait for a flower garden in Belarus.
  18. parusnik
    parusnik 10 August 2020 16: 22 New
    +5
    At the same time, a sad paradox strikes the eye: the Bolsheviks, whom some are still trying to reproach for the “collapse of the Russian Empire,” just managed to hold on to almost all of its territories.
    ... After the collapse of the Russian Empire, various national states were formed on the territory in the Transcaucasus, Central Asia, the Baltic States, Ukraine, Belarus, Finland ... The White Army fought for a single and indivisible and everyone was against the Bolsheviks, but the joint campaign did not work out .Not agreed, in addition, during the period of "independence" all found owners. The British, French, Germans, Turks, who have how smile After the collapse of the USSR, in principle, the same picture developed, nationalist governments came to power in the former Soviet republics, which unites all of them, including Russia, anti-Sovietism and anti-communism, it seems that it is possible to unite on this platform, but somehow does not work, as in the years of the civil war. Yes, and the "owners" were found the same Western countries, China ... each in different ways. Now, on the topic, the author reproaches the Russian Federation that there are no pro-Russian parties in the former republics. First, pro-Russian views, in the former republics, are simply burned out with a hot secondly, in order to have influence, pro-Russian parties need to promote the idea of ​​friendship of peoples - internationalism, but internationalism is not inherent in bourgeois parties ...
    1. depressant
      depressant 10 August 2020 21: 53 New
      +3
      Colleague parusnik, what does it mean to promote friendship of peoples and internationalism? Well, why on earth would I try to force myself to be friends with someone just because he is Uzbek? He will ask where the pharmacy is, I'll show him. He will say thank you, I will please him. Or buy vegetables from him. We don't beat each other's muzzles, that's all friendship and all internationalism. Tolerance is the right word. They are tolerant, we are tolerant, and that's all. And, by the way, this is a lot. The tolerance of peoples towards each other is more than a serious basis for building good-neighborly political relations at the government level. But tolerance quickly ends when politicians misbehave. In this case, no intelligence, no objectivity will be enough to crush the dark "Come in large numbers!" At one time, there was not enough intelligence, or tolerance, and even more thoroughly implanted and infused internationalism to "Come in large numbers!" they did not tell us. But they lived side by side for many years. And why do you think they, then still Soviet people, told us so?
  19. Postum
    Postum 10 August 2020 16: 26 New
    +8
    Everything is much simpler, Russia is simply not attractive, the European Union and the United States are attractive, and even Turkey, Russia is not
  20. gridasov
    gridasov 10 August 2020 16: 31 New
    -2
    If anyone remembers that even in the pre-perestroika period, the Americans openly declared that instead of creating one submarine, it was worth creating one film company. Impenetrable fortresses are taken from the inside. The Americans have destroyed the continuity of patriotism for years. Moreover, the authorities themselves added fuel to the fire with publications about the robbery of the people. What then was worth waiting for?
  21. paco.soto
    paco.soto 10 August 2020 16: 32 New
    -3
    Neutral opinion: in this stupid article, erroneous landmarks are immediately set, some kind of abstract newspeak is used, there is no reference to reality. Then the forum picks up outgoing messages and turns into a "cartoon bird market". Sad for VO.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 10 August 2020 20: 52 New
      +3
      In my opinion this is your abstract criticism without specifics.
      1. paco.soto
        paco.soto 10 August 2020 21: 21 New
        0
        This is not a criticism of the content. Ya just drew attention to the form of submission of the material and laid out his opinion.
    2. Cristall
      Cristall 10 August 2020 23: 26 New
      +7
      Quote: paco.soto
      Neutral Opinion:

      the author made no attempt to answer the question.
      He just wrote his opinion as the main reason.
      In short - all are bad, the West has bought everyone.
      The author did not take into account soft power at all, even the fact that the elites in Belarus / Ukraine are exactly the same as in the Russian Federation and perfectly found the language and still find it. It's just that this cooperation is not for one country - but for money. The initiator of many such relations is Russian capital. So the reason is money.
      And since soft power for the Land is expensive and incomprehensible. And on the wave of still old ties, the legend that Russia is the USSR - worked for some time enriching Russian / non-Russian capital. Deception and advertising.
      The reason is in ourselves. There is nothing to offer, but to associate yourself with such a "Russian" RF is somehow silly.
      And Russians are not necessarily Russians. Why should they be for the Russian Federation, if the Russian Federation is not the defender of the Russian?
      And also sells them wholesale and retail.
      Russians do not have any specific homeland. There is a native country. So you can be a true Russian and not for the Russian Federation.
      1. paco.soto
        paco.soto 11 August 2020 03: 00 New
        0
        Thank you.
      2. Essex62
        Essex62 11 August 2020 10: 16 New
        0
        This is a very correct idea, but it is at odds with the official one broadcasted at the household level. "Oh, you are against the Russian Federation, it means a foe, an agent of the State Department, etc. And how else, who won the showdown in the 90s, the clan to stay on the gas pipe, when other flocks are constantly striving for redistribution.
        Personally, I have had the feeling of a partisan in occupied territory for a very long time.
  22. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 10 August 2020 16: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: Leopold K.
    Quote: Corona without virus
    Russia would have introduced in its law on citizenship that anyone who was born in the USSR, like his children, becomes citizens of the Russian Federation - would already be the USSR-2

    It wouldn't be.
    The USSR, and the RSFSR, is not needed by anyone except a few, but noisy scoops.
    At the same time, there are still many of them in the Russian Federation, so they mess with them. And in other post-USSR countries, they quietly sit under the deck and are afraid that they will be revealed.
    But Russia and Russia will come to this. Soon.

    You do not understand the meaning of my post at all - re-read, pliz, again! drinks
  23. New Year day
    New Year day 10 August 2020 16: 38 New
    10
    The author wrote everything right! The efficiency of our government in the near abroad is "0". And why? Because solid agreements. They negotiate with the rich or those in power, but do not want to talk to the people. Not surprising! They talk to their own people through their lips, but what to say about strangers. And the Americans and the Poles are working on the bottom, preparing the foundation. Overbought / convinced oligarchs or those in power are already being built on a ready-made foundation. The result is obtained. Ours build everything on water, that's why they get it with a rake on the face.
    Natural result
  24. 1536
    1536 10 August 2020 16: 42 New
    +4
    The protection of its citizens is the primary duty of the state and government. And here, in the capital of our Motherland, we can already hear the calls of foreign workers that it is time for the Russians to get out ... from Moscow (according to media reports). This is not to mention the fact that the same Belarusians detain dozens of Russian citizens without trial or investigation, keep them in jail, threaten to transfer them to a third party, and also arrest and extradite Russian citizens from the United States around the world. Probably, in order to prevent unrest in Belarus, it would be necessary to arrest about 50 Belarusians on the territory of Moscow, for example, so that the Belarusian society would unite in a single impulse. At least we knew why such "dislike". But in our country, even in this case, no unification takes place either in the media or in society. Therefore, there is nothing to be surprised at. If we don't respect ourselves, who will respect us?
  25. nikvic46
    nikvic46 10 August 2020 16: 42 New
    -3
    The experience of the United States is not good for us. They got all spheres of influence after the Navy of the Federal Republic of Germany, they simply bought food and rags. Injecting only 2,5 billion into this country according to the Marshall plan. This was a lot of money at that time. Now everyone is spreading rot Lenin. Definitely not. I remember. There is such a quote.-Small nationalities especially painfully endure pressure on their interests. A large powerful power should be above petty squabbles. She should be condescending towards her partners, and at the same time with calm firmness.
    1. Postum
      Postum 11 August 2020 18: 31 New
      +2
      Tolley case Russia has poured into Ukraine and there are much more neighbors, only the trouble did not work
  26. Pavel57
    Pavel57 10 August 2020 16: 43 New
    -1
    Quote: paul3390
    Because our government is not Russian at all, and it does not act in the interests of Russia and its population. And Putin, judging by the events of the last 5 years, is the main enemy of the people.
    Only Soviet power can be truly people's power. Which she was, until we foolishly fucked her up.

    And how do you see the screening out of the pro-Western elite and its continuous reproduction, which the USSR could not overcome.
  27. bar
    bar 10 August 2020 16: 52 New
    +1
    Why is the post-Soviet space becoming anti-Russian?

    Because this is the law of nature. The weak always cling to the strong in any pack. When the USSR was in power, there were many pro-Soviet "friends". Now the strong are striped. Whoever dines girls, he dances them ...
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 11 August 2020 10: 26 New
      +1
      When the country is united, with the correct ideology, where the worker is at the forefront, and not the huckster, everyone is strong. Fascism was thrown out of the territory of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus by the multinational Soviet People. He, in all his multinationality, was strong. Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kazakhs and many peoples defended Russia. Raunchy thought about girls is not appropriate here at all.
      1. bar
        bar 11 August 2020 11: 01 New
        0
        Excellent sustained speech. You will get off the armored car, do not slip.
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 12 August 2020 07: 42 New
          0
          I don't need an armor. I am a practitioner. And don't poke me.
          1. bar
            bar 12 August 2020 08: 33 New
            0
            And don't poke me.

            Acceptthose my deepest apologies. Was wrong, flared up. Henceforth I undertake not to deliver you no inconvenience, bypass yours comments by the side and do not touch you even with tweezers to avoid unpleasant odors laughing
  28. Spetruk
    Spetruk 10 August 2020 16: 53 New
    +7
    And you can not suffer from garbage and there is no one to feed abroad, but simply become such a country with which everyone will want to be friends)
    1. Polente the Wanderer
      Polente the Wanderer 10 August 2020 17: 48 New
      +2
      All that remains is, instead of supporting other countries with cheap loans, or even just gifts, it is better to support your people, your industry.
  29. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 10 August 2020 16: 56 New
    +1
    I FULLY agree with Alexander's article and with the final conclusion. It would be nice if all this "reached" the VERY cautious Russian authorities and they began to act in this direction ...
  30. DPN
    DPN 10 August 2020 16: 59 New
    -1
    The answer is a simple offended, there are many 14 former republics, that's all and this is not the end.
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  32. Igor Borisov_2
    Igor Borisov_2 10 August 2020 17: 34 New
    +6
    Well, it’s time to reflect on Moscow’s policy towards its closest neighbors, for which the word “failed” begs

    She has been like this since the collapse. In 1992, he graduated from VVMU, natives of the near abroad were offered a choice - either distribution to the fleets of Russia, or return to their countries. Many decided to return home. Those who so decided were not allowed to participate in the solemn presentation of shoulder straps and daggers. The company commander bashfully presented my friend from Ukraine with a dagger and a diploma right in our dorm room. It was scary to look at the guy, they all refused to go to celebrate their graduation in a cafe and moved to hotels. Although the night after graduation, it was still possible to spend the night in the company. This is how the person with whom I was friends for 5 years became absolutely distant to me - in my "classmates", when I found him there, I asked him not to write anymore ........
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  34. Polente the Wanderer
    Polente the Wanderer 10 August 2020 17: 44 New
    +1
    Failures in foreign policy, or as they say, temporary difficulties cannot be attributed to the technical prime minister. Foreign policy is entirely, even officially, directed by the head of state. Our neighbors skillfully manipulate us to obtain economic benefits, but diligently dodge political support for our policy.
  35. alone
    alone 10 August 2020 17: 45 New
    10
    Why did the post-Soviet became anti-Russian? I think here we just need to seriously think about it ... and there is no need to look for the truth behind seven mountains ... As everyone knows, the truth is always somewhere nearby ... many would like to recreate the USSR-2.0. Two very logical questions arise: Why and with whom?
    To create a powerful country, many people will answer the first question ... it sounds tempting ... Well, let's put the first 10 years aside. What prevented in 20 years from making Russia the country that the citizens of Russia would like to see?
    And the second question is even more difficult to answer than the first. With such candidates, a strong state cannot be built. An alliance of the weak cannot be strong if their entire economy is in ruins.
    Your government claims to create the USSR 2.0 and already sees itself on this throne. That is where the whole problem lies. Why do we need such an alliance and such a power that even looks at its own people through our fingers. We have enough of our own thieves, so we also have to feed your - well, if you please. ... Moreover, they are insatiable ..
    PS The majority against the Russian people has nothing against it. Talking about the fact that many are against Russia it is better to disconnect the concept of a simple Russian people and the policy that the Russian government is leading.
    P.S. We have enough of our own Degtyarovs, and yours will be too much
  36. place
    place 10 August 2020 17: 49 New
    +9
    The answer to the question posed by the Author is as simple as an orange.
    If the German people are responsible for the history and fate of Germany, and the British are responsible for England. then who is responsible for the fate of Russia?
    I read the comments and see; responsible for Russia are officials, the Bolsheviks of 1917, Jews, the Caucasus, all kinds of migrants. The Russian people have been here for 1000 years, but they are not responsible for anything and do not accept their responsibility. WITH WHOM IS NO DEMAND, AND TO DO IT HERE IS NOT FIG!
    The world is fair, whatever you say ...
  37. Pavel57
    Pavel57 10 August 2020 17: 50 New
    +2
    Quote: Igor Borisov_2
    In 1992 he graduated from VVMU, immigrants from the near abroad were offered a choice - either distribution to the fleets of Russia, or return to their countries. Many decided to return home. Those who so decided were not allowed to participate in the solemn presentation of shoulder straps and daggers. The company commander bashfully presented my friend from Ukraine with a dagger and a diploma right in our dorm room. It was scary to look at the guy, they all refused to go to celebrate their graduation in a cafe and moved to hotels.


    And what country's shoulder straps did they expect to receive?
    1. place
      place 10 August 2020 18: 03 New
      -1
      Quote: Pavel57
      And what country's shoulder straps did they expect to receive?

      -------------

      It seems that this question has never occurred to a graduate of VVMU since 1992 until our time. It's very similar to our warriors.
  38. A.TOR
    A.TOR 10 August 2020 18: 39 New
    +4
    Wonderful are your deeds. Lord ...
    All over the world everyone knows and understands very well why Russia has problems in relations with its neighbors (in the former USSR and CMEA - OVD).
    And only in Russia itself does this raise questions and, what is most strange, all sorts of stupid ideas and ideas about what is necessary, they say, "... to raise, nurture, strengthen and protect from attacks, to conduct continuous educational activities"
    This game, excuse me, will be repeated with dismal periodicity in articles, on TV ... everywhere.

    In fact, everything is extremely transparent and simple (this example is given in the class of political science at universities that are seriously engaged in it, not in Russia):
    - Let's imagine an apartment in which several families live. These are people of different origins and mentality. Once they lived - they were separate, but then one family, the most numerous and active, brought everyone together in different ways.
    Time has passed. For a number of reasons, the residents of the apartment decided to live separately. The "main" family at this time became weaker, so it could not keep everyone together. Then she got stronger and tried to return the past device. However, those who have become "independent", who know this "main" family very well, do not want to be under her care at all.
    For various reasons, but the former "main" family in practical comparison loses well to other, third-party "families". Moreover, outside families perceive newcomers trying to join them, in principle, quite favorably, for over the course of many years they have persistently and creatively created mechanisms of mutual relations that allow them to unite the connected and not touch the original.
    It took "others" many decades of hard work, trial and error.
    And the former "main" family is trying, according to the old practice, to impose some amateur standards on former neighbors that do not suit them.
    it is obvious that with the current development of events, the "former" will be all - often in veiled ways - to strive anywhere from the "main" family of that communal apartment.
    Everyone wants their own home.
  39. ccsr
    ccsr 10 August 2020 18: 42 New
    -14
    Author:
    Alexander Kharaluzhny
    Why is the post-Soviet space becoming anti-Russian?

    For two reasons:
    1. Primitive envy of our wealth and Russia's ability to pursue a truly independent policy on the world stage, which they are deprived of forever.
    2. The understanding that Russia will no longer be a cash cow for the small-town czars and their subjects from the former Soviet republics, and this understanding is perceived with special malice and hatred.
    I see no other reasons for anti-Russian meanness from former citizens of the USSR.
    1. Sanche
      Sanche 11 August 2020 11: 07 New
      +2
      For two reasons:
      1. Primitive envy of our wealth and Russia's ability to pursue a truly independent policy on the world stage, which they are deprived of forever.

      Are you serious?
      Russia is a rich country. And the people in it live in poverty. Is the paradox true?
      What to envy?
  40. Berg berg
    Berg berg 10 August 2020 19: 06 New
    -4
    Yes, everything is very simple, Russia refuses to gradually feed its brothers for free with its resources. But their habit has already grown firmly. How is it so without a freebie!
  41. Obliterator
    Obliterator 10 August 2020 19: 23 New
    -4
    the Bolsheviks, whom some are still trying to reproach for the “collapse of the Russian Empire,” just managed to hold on to almost all of its territories.

    Only by their national policy, they planted and tore such a mine under this "Russian Empire" that it would never come together again.
  42. Pavel Yashkov
    Pavel Yashkov 10 August 2020 19: 38 New
    +6
    Yes, it's all garbage, to nurture not to nurture. If the economy of the Russian Federation is lower than the sewage system, then no one wants to be friends with it. If the economy were like that of China or Western countries, then everyone would like to be friends, even investing nothing would be necessary
    1. Berg berg
      Berg berg 13 August 2020 21: 49 New
      0
      I realized that I wrote it myself, so they will be friends for freebies and cookies, is that what you call friendship now?
  43. imobile2008
    imobile2008 10 August 2020 20: 20 New
    +4
    Typical situation: in a certain state the people oppose corruption, lack of reforms, and a poor standard of living, and this is usually backed up by a "king" who wants to rule all life. Here our Foreign Ministry appears and says if you overthrow the dictator, you are against Russia. This people, taken aback, does not understand what is happening, agrees against Russia, so against Russia, since for a better life you need Here is the answer, why does everyone around become anti-Russian?
  44. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 10 August 2020 20: 48 New
    +3
    The funny thing is that the question from the title can be answered simply: Under the USSR, they lived richly, at the expense of Russia, or at the expense of the union economy, and after the collapse, they suddenly saw that no one needed, no one feeds and no one buys their goods. The most powerful economic system built on the Marxian "from each as possible, to each according to his work" was destroyed. Crookedly built, but even this sketch for Marx was and is many times more powerful, more effective and more humane than the capitalist system, which is sliding closer and closer to the slave system.
  45. Normal ok
    Normal ok 10 August 2020 21: 10 New
    +5
    The author asks:
    Why is the post-Soviet space becoming anti-Russian?

    The answer lies in an old anecdote: "if the third husband hits the face, then it's not the husband, it's the face."
  46. Sanche
    Sanche 10 August 2020 21: 13 New
    +3
    I will not speak for the entire post-Soviet space. But with regards to the situation in Belarus, I see it this way. The Belarusians have long been very tired of the AHL, and Putin, supporting him, thereby became an enemy for many Belarusians. We do not have any Russophobia, we have hostility towards those who support the AHL. According to the principle "friend of my enemy is my enemy" Russia, as always, slept through the situation ....
    Or maybe she didn't sleep ... Yes, a pair of boots. The second boot has already congratulated the AHL
    1. bulava
      bulava 11 August 2020 09: 55 New
      -3
      Are you tired? Who told you that? But Father's support is real around 80%.
      I talked with many of the RB (serious people and just hard workers). They are all for Lukashenka. They criticize some excesses, but they understand that the actors of the wandering tent are named after them. They definitely do not need Soros, since they will immediately drag the republic to the bottom. They have doubts about integration with the Russian Federation. The main arguments are: "So everything is fine with us - there is enough for life", the level of corruption and crime in the Russian Federation is still high, and making money is no easier than in Belarus and the standard of living is about the same. While human practical sense, in general they do not see
      1. Sanche
        Sanche 11 August 2020 11: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: bulava
        Are you tired? Who told you that? But Father has real support in the region of 80%. I talked with many of the Republic of Belarus (serious people and just hard workers). They are all for Lukashenka.

        He had never had such support before, and now even more so.
        I live in Belarus and communicate with many in different cities. A very small percentage for it, mainly:
        1. retirees, disabled people who are simply afraid for their pension. They can no longer work, they are afraid to change something, they are satisfied with the status quo
        2. Security officials who understand that they are not needed so much in a small country and that redundancies are inevitable
        3. Ministers, representatives of local authorities, heads of departments of executive committees, who also understand that most of them will not get a chance when the government changes.
        1. bulava
          bulava 11 August 2020 11: 05 New
          -3
          Yeah, we also say, only when it comes to the question "and who, if not him," then EVERYONE already understands that there is no alternative, and there is no point in changing. You just need to work, take part in the development of the country, be a patriot of your Motherland, and not wait for the good "Uncle Sam" to come and bring many beautiful candy wrappers and abstract "freedom". There will be no freedom with them. Freedom now, when his own person is in power, yes, there are mistakes and excesses, but this is all his own!
    2. Essex62
      Essex62 11 August 2020 10: 38 New
      -3
      And you really want to follow the lace panties, in the trail 404. Most Belarusians support Old Man. Because they are adequate and do not strive for the western madhouse. What is happening now in "democratic countries" cannot be called anything other than paranoia.
      1. Sanche
        Sanche 11 August 2020 11: 21 New
        +2
        And you really want to get lace panties, in the next 404

        By the way, many Belarusians are not against the unification with the Russian Federation. I am personally FOR. Personally, I am satisfied with the more stable and strong ruble of the Russian Federation, compared to the constantly depreciating ruble of the Republic of Belarus. But there is one BUT - someone will lose power and access to the printing press, etc. ... Considering that this person needs power more than anything in the world, therefore, there will never be a union.
        As before, there will be games, 2 chairs, and money getting out of Russia. So bear with it, brothers)))
  47. Konstantin Shevchenko
    Konstantin Shevchenko 10 August 2020 21: 29 New
    +1
    Such allies can be won or bribed. Why? The trouble is that the Russian leadership still inherited the thinking of the USSR. Can offer to finance Africa and Asia to start a disgrace otherwise not more Bolshevik. The United States is withdrawing financial dividends, and the USSR does not need a world ideology, so it got a broken trough. The Russian people, as always, will manage, but will pull their belts.
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 11 August 2020 10: 45 New
      0
      The Russian people did not drill new holes in the girdle during the Soviet era. We lived quite well. And they felt themselves to be people, needed by the country. And the ideology down with the bourgeois - the backbone is very necessary. A Frenchman and a Pole and even a resident of the states can tell you this, when he, like his veins, does not tear, everything from the great American dream thousands of miles away.
      1. Konstantin Shevchenko
        Konstantin Shevchenko 11 August 2020 12: 01 New
        -1
        How did you not drill? Maybe only the regional committee and the people's commissar did not drill, as it was said then "who is in power, the sweet." The rest suffered famine, war, stagnation and, in the end, devastation. We lived comfortably for short periods. If from the emergence of the USSR, only from 1937, and then not for long. The history of the USSR is quite modern.
  48. sergo
    sergo 10 August 2020 21: 43 New
    -2
    And what can a rashka give !? The standard of living is low, immeasurable corruption and arbitrariness of the authorities. They have enough of this stuff without us.
    1. bulava
      bulava 11 August 2020 09: 48 New
      -1
      And what can a rashka give !?

      If you call your Motherland that way, then Russia should give a kick to people like you.
      1. Konstantin Shevchenko
        Konstantin Shevchenko 11 August 2020 12: 02 New
        -1
        It is doubtful that Russia is his homeland.
  49. iouris
    iouris 10 August 2020 22: 04 New
    -1
    ... because "Carthage must be destroyed".
    After the Ukrainization of Belarus, the Belarusianization of Carthage will begin.
  50. pereselenec
    pereselenec 10 August 2020 22: 43 New
    +2
    Why is the post-Soviet space becoming anti-Russian?


    As a result of the workshops of geopolitical multi-moves and the reversal of irradiated nanogeny.