Ukrainian journalist announced Lukashenko's intention to extradite the detainees "to both Russia and Ukraine"

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Ukrainian journalist announced Lukashenko's intention to extradite the detainees "to both Russia and Ukraine"

The Ukrainian press is circulating the statement of local journalist Dmitry Gordon about the Russians detained in the Minsk region of Belarus. It is noteworthy that the journalist is interviewed by other journalists - from Radio Liberty, with whom Mr. Gordon shared his thoughts against the background of the meeting of Alexander Lukashenko with Vladimir Zelensky. "VO" reported about this meeting the day before.

During the meeting, the two presidents discussed, among other things, the issue of the possible extradition of persons detained in Belarus to the Ukrainian side. Let us remind you that in Minsk and Kiev they are called "militants", often adding that they are allegedly from "PMC Wagner".



Dmitry Gordon in an interview with the said radio station said that in Belarus "the green light will be given to the prosecutor's office and law enforcement agencies for the transfer of criminals to both Russia and Ukraine."

According to Gordon, Zelensky personally convinced Lukashenko of the need to extradite to Ukraine those of them who have Ukrainian citizenship and who participated in the hostilities in the Donbass.

Gordon stated:

I am sure that the issue will take place.

It should be reminded that 32 Russians were detained in a sanatorium near Minsk, another was detained in the south of Belarus. Earlier, the Belarusian media noted that all the detainees have Russian citizenship. Now there are reports in the press that some of the detainees may have two passports: Russian and Ukrainian.

Gordon made his statements after an interview with Lukashenka.

Lukashenka during the interview:

Fairness is essential. If I see that they are trying to tilt my people, my people, Belarus - that's all.
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  1. +42
    6 August 2020 06: 23
    Fairness is essential. If I see that they are trying to tilt my people, my people, Belarus - that's all.
    .... It started, the state, it's me smile
    1. +51
      6 August 2020 06: 47
      I wish Alexander Grigorievich to finish the game as soon as possible.

      Russia must protect its citizens.

      A good move is not to recognize the legitimacy of Mr. Lukashenko after 9 August.

      We are with the Belarusians, but against the "father" we are senile.
      1. +8
        6 August 2020 07: 07
        It's not even worth discussing. Product for domestic consumption. A Ukrainian journalist told the Ukrainian Radio Sloboda .....
        There now only the lazy is not promoting on this situation, and the "experts" are like fleas on a barboske.
        1. +8
          6 August 2020 07: 14
          Of course, the words of the journalist-seller of the healing pyramids should not be taken as the ultimate truth, but so far everything in the Old Man's behavior indicates a further negative development of the situation, especially flirting with Svidomo.
          1. +13
            6 August 2020 08: 54
            It turns out that the Russians arrested in the Republic of Belarus should have been not 33, but 34.
            34 simply did not go, because the contract seemed to him SUSPICIOUS. Namely.
            First, recruiters initially did not want to provide contract terms.
            Secondly. Through a friend, he managed to find out that the order was allegedly going through the private militarized security company "MAR", in the name of which there is an abbreviation "PMC" for show-off. Although it is framed as an ordinary private security company. In addition, MAP was liquidated 2 years ago.
            The Russians were supposed to fly to the place of work through Istanbul and beyond. Where? Unknown.
            Why through Belarus? Because “Belarus is a well-known transit hole for such cases. This is a convoy of ships in Somalia, personal escort of sheikhs. " The KGB of the Republic of Belarus has known about this for over 10 years and decided to close this "hole" only now in relation to the Russians.
            Could they have been physically affected?
            - At first it seemed to me that no, there seemed to be an order so that not a single hair fell from the head. But after Lukashenka announced that all the detainees had confessed to what they were accused of, our consul said that those arrested began to look very bad. Weird coincidence. I already know that they have nothing to admit to ... But you have to understand that according to the conditions of detention, the Belarusian prison is approximately like a Turkish one, there no one stands on ceremony with anyone.
            Judging by your story, the guys were just used, sorry, like suckers. Whose game do you think this might be?
            - Definitely, Lukashenko. Where politics is, the law raises its paws. It seems to me that there is no mnogohodovochka here, Old Man just wants to stay in power at any cost, and therefore arranged an amateur performance.

            See details - https://www.mk.ru/politics/2020/08/05/ya-dolzhen-byl-stat-34m-v-gruppe-chvk-arestovannoy-belorusami.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
            1. +6
              6 August 2020 09: 05
              Interesting information, about this murky MAP, and previously wrote in blogs, such as an ordinary intermediary firm, spreading money. It is not clear only how this arrest should help Luka with re-election? Is it really so bad with the rating that you need to attract the votes of "zmagars" at any cost? ..
              1. +8
                6 August 2020 21: 43
                I think he wants to show that only he can save Belarus from aggression from Russia. I followed in the footsteps of the west. And then this MAP was drawn ... In general, the guys turned out to be, without wanting it, into the political intrigues of Lukashenka.
            2. +1
              6 August 2020 11: 57
              Could they have been physically affected?

              Will push. They will offer the choice of issuing to Ukraine or speaking on a piece of paper.
            3. +2
              6 August 2020 13: 32
              ........ confessed ........
              Allegedly confessed! Isn't it true? Modern medicinal means of obtaining information are such that a person will tell what the questioner needs.
            4. w70
              -4
              6 August 2020 21: 02
              So they also wanted to shoot in both directions from sniper rifles in Kiev. Lukashenko is not Yanukovych, it’s just a glade
              1. +10
                6 August 2020 21: 44
                Do you believe this? Why does Russia need Maidan in Belarus?
                1. w70
                  -2
                  7 August 2020 07: 11
                  To enter the troops, as in the Donbass, then remove all equipment from the factories and sell
          2. +4
            6 August 2020 10: 43
            Quote: Tzar
            The words of a journalist-seller of healing pyramids, of course, should not be taken as the ultimate truth,

            But it must be understood as another element of blackmail from "dad".
      2. -35
        6 August 2020 07: 25
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        I wish Alexander Grigorievich to finish the game as soon as possible.

        When will Putin finish badly? wink
        Under the article - again another stuffing with reference to Ukrainian sources. negative
        1. +12
          6 August 2020 08: 09
          So watch the interview in full, what's stopping you?
          Batska threw such a baidu there, mascara light.
          In general, I am silent about giving an interview to the "Ahent SBU" who records everything for The Hague.
          Luke still breaks through bottom after bottom, and from there everyone knocks.
          1. -13
            6 August 2020 08: 30
            Quote: K-612-O
            Batska threw such a baidu there, mascara light.

            And he said something there about extradition to Ukraine? belay
            In addition, I would not give a hand to cut off, claiming that the PMCs were there according to the version officially announced in our country. Look at journalist Shevchenko, and his vision of the versions of finding the guys there. He examines several, moreover critically, without a hurry of bawdy. hi
            1. +8
              6 August 2020 08: 36
              He said, imagine.
              Aren't you funny yourself? To bring, even 200 people into a state where everything is, the opposition and the Nazis, by the way, also under the hood of the KGB, for what? Redhead to sway?
              Despite the fact that before that, within a month, 9 of the same groups traveled in transit, on their own business.
              To do this, you have to be imbecile
              1. -6
                6 August 2020 08: 39
                Quote: K-612-O
                Said, imagine

                A reference can be made to Lukashenka's statement that he is going to hand over the detainees to Ukraine?
              2. +4
                6 August 2020 10: 48
                Quote: K-612-O
                To import, even if 200 people

                I really liked the tale about the abandoned "200 people" from Russia who "are hiding in the forest"! What is it worth for the troops to comb the forest, catch at least one and present?
              3. +2
                6 August 2020 10: 57
                Andrew! It seems to me like this. Aleksandr Grigorievich wisely noted a few months ago that provocations are possible before the elections. But the word is not a sparrow. Who needs to write everything down. As it should be before the elections, the leadership lowers down the command "Provide provocateurs", all the rank with the assignment of responsibility, etc. on VO it is not necessary to explain how this is done. When
                When crossing the border, the chief did not like this group, I do not know why - maybe they behaved uncivilized, maybe the tattoos did not like it. So he thought that only provocateurs could behave this way and with such tattoos. And he submitted a report to whoever needed it, they say, "the provocateurs have arrived - everything is as it should be, the number, time, captain ...".
            2. 0
              6 August 2020 10: 18
              Well, they are, as they say, a medical fact. What is crime? Name at least one of these medical facts! Took for thoughts? Where is the corpus delicti - the object, the objective side, the subject, the subjective side of the crime? Yes ... also name the causal connection in their crime. hi
        2. +12
          6 August 2020 10: 17
          From the series "Conversations with a Neighbor in a Foil Hat"
          Returning home, a neighbor stands at the entrance in a Napoleon's cocked hat made of golden foil, his arms crossed over his chest, like Bonaparte
          - Well, have you heard about 33 detainees in Belarus?
          - Of course, now many are talking about it.
          - Well, what do you think?
          - I don't know, the opinions are contradictory.
          - Listen to me! They were detained 33 days before the 66th anniversary of Lukashenka, 66 - two 33. Their leader is Wagner. And Wagner, as you know, was Hitler's favorite composer! And Hitler came to power in 33! This is on the one hand. On the other hand. 33 - the age of Christ. Well, and cherry on top, which region in Russia is number 33? Do not know? Not surprised: region 33 - Vla-di-mir-ska-i region! Vladimir! I hope I don’t need to tell you who is our main Vladimir? Think about it.
          I stood with my mouth open, trying to somehow connect all these facts into some kind of logical structure, and a neighbor walked towards the store, waving a bag on which Pushkin's 33 heroes were drawn, and singing the song "33 cows" from film about Mary Poppins. The thermometer above the office on the first floor of our house showed +33 - and it's in the shade!
          1. 0
            6 August 2020 11: 48
            Yes Yes! And 33% of voters will vote early! laughing
      3. +14
        6 August 2020 07: 40
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        We are with the Belarusians, but against the "father" we are senile.

        Painting by an unknown artist (presumably the first half of the XXI century) - "But father twists his hands to the employee of the Russian private security company"


      4. 0
        6 August 2020 08: 53
        I wish Alexander Grigorievich to finish the game as soon as possible.

        Russia must protect its citizens.


        Even strangely, the GDP did not say a word on the air about this situation. Or is everything going according to plan?
      5. +5
        6 August 2020 09: 20
        Everyone scolded Pashinyan and expected dirty tricks from him, and the feint threw out his own brother.
        1. +3
          6 August 2020 09: 42
          So this tode burns. Broadcasting in Russian closed
          1. +1
            6 August 2020 13: 04
            This cannot be compared with the extradition of 33 Russians to Ukraine!
            1. +6
              6 August 2020 21: 50
              Quote: finish
              issuing 33 Russians to Ukraine!

              Maybe it won't? Maybe he will bring them back to Russia. I want to believe it. Hope still dies last. Or maybe he is filling the price for another discount?
      6. +1
        6 August 2020 10: 40
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        A good move is not to recognize the legitimacy of Mr. Lukashenko after 9 August.

        Moreover, observers from Russia on the CIS were not invited to the elections.
      7. +9
        6 August 2020 21: 39
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        A good move is not to recognize the legitimacy of Mr. Lukashenko after 9 August.

        It's a good move, but only here there is such a thing ... In 2014, we recognized the legitimacy of the Kiev junta headed by Parashenko ... I think we will recognize Lukashenko's legitimacy after August 9 ...
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        Russia must protect its citizens.

        good Should, by all, absolutely by all methods.
    2. +9
      6 August 2020 07: 06
      Russia, in fact, boycotts the participation of our observers from the OSCE in the Belarusian elections on August 9. This may mean that the election of Lukashenko for the 6th term, Russia may not recognize. That's all the baubles for my father. So, it is very likely that he will face the fate of the same "zapper" like Yanukovych.
      1. +7
        6 August 2020 07: 36
        Quote: siberalt
        Russia, in fact, boycotts the participation of our observers from the OSCE in the Belarusian elections on August 9.

        The amendment does not boycott, and Russia has not yet received an official invitation from its Belarusian counterparts to participate in observing the elections, as a result of which the CEC of Russia decided not to send its observers there.
      2. +4
        6 August 2020 08: 11
        So there will be no observers from the OSCE, as well as from the CIS. Europe always does this, and does not recognize the elections in Belarus.
        1. +1
          6 August 2020 09: 38
          Quote: K-612-O
          as well as from the CIS.

          Some observers from them will be in tiny numbers and they will include Russians, he is from the CIS, and not Russia as such. Who will be there? Kyrgyz, Turkmen and other lovers of autocracy.
          1. 0
            6 August 2020 09: 44
            The CIS will not come, "due to the unclear situation regarding the coronavirus in Belarus"
          2. +9
            6 August 2020 21: 53
            Quote: TerribleGMO
            from the CIS

            The CIS is not a supranational entity and operates on a voluntary basis.
        2. +8
          6 August 2020 21: 52
          But, this does not help Europe in any way with relations with Belarus ...
    3. -9
      6 August 2020 07: 23
      Silence from the Kremlin is not a good factor! One hundred pounds, our experts did not allow such an option, and now they are frantically looking for options for self-support, and not for a solution to the issue, so that the Russians would not be handed over to Lukashenka for slaughter to the Kiev regime. In general, it is high time for Lukashenka to retire honestly himself, he managed all the good that was the measure of Russia and Belarus out of shit, nowhere else!
      1. +9
        6 August 2020 08: 13
        The silence from the Kremlin is just good. You cannot react to the antics of inadequacy with hysteria. And thanks to this silence, the butt is burying himself more and more with it in the eyes of his own people.
        1. +5
          6 August 2020 08: 24
          Where is the silence? Peskov has been saying words for a long time, isn't he the Kremlin?
          1. 0
            6 August 2020 08: 47
            He always carries something, oh he says .. And in the end he said that he didn't say.
    4. +3
      6 August 2020 07: 35
      Quote: parusnik
      Fairness is essential. If I see that they are trying to tilt my people, my people, Belarus - that's all.
      .... It started, the state, it's me smile

      And he communicates with someone, with a darned Gordon who literally chokes on Russophobia in his programs.
      Well ... the mustachioed bulb has determined its fate similarly.
      I wonder how long it will take before he escapes to Smolensk or Rostov-on-Don?
      I would not accept it if I were the Russian authorities. Let their local natsyks tear it apart.
      1. +1
        6 August 2020 09: 53
        Dmitry! This is such a quirky beetle that I'm sure nothing will happen to it. Will he stop playing hockey with Putin for a while? I would venture to suggest that when it comes to extradition to Ukraine, it looks like the extradition will take place, and not because of the Gong Don prophecies, but because of the agreement between Zelensky and Lukashenko. we will talk about the number of extradited to Ukraine. Initially, it was about nine, but then the appetite broke out and they began to ask for twenty-eight. So - he will give out nine. And in the media he will tell how kind he is and how he protected the guys from extradition to Ukraine, because they are not to blame, but their bosses are to blame. Well, nine really does not, because on them ... (further optional). And as he always said that Russians and Belarusians are one people. only Belarusians with the quality mark. And after all, someone both in the Russian Federation and in the Republic of Belarus will hang their ears.
        1. 0
          6 August 2020 11: 51
          I put a plus. But I still disagree. Will not give out one - after that you will have to live out your life in a bunker.
        2. 0
          6 August 2020 12: 50
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          Dmitry! This is such a quirky beetle that I'm sure nothing will happen to it. Will he stop playing hockey with Putin for a while? I would venture to suggest that when it comes to extradition to Ukraine, it looks like the extradition will take place, and not because of the Gong Don prophecies, but because of the agreement between Zelensky and Lukashenko. we will talk about the number of extradited to Ukraine. Initially, it was about nine, but then the appetite broke out and they began to ask for twenty-eight. So - he will give out nine. And in the media he will tell how kind he is and how he protected the guys from extradition to Ukraine, because they are not to blame, but their bosses are to blame. Well, nine really does not, because on them ... (further optional). And as he always said that Russians and Belarusians are one people. only Belarusians with the quality mark. And after all, someone both in the Russian Federation and in the Republic of Belarus will hang their ears.

          For every tricky ass there is ... a bottle opener :)
          This time the bulb has jumped, in my opinion.
          Neither its own population nor Russia will trust him any more.
          It seems that he did not wait for the papal bull.
          As far as I know, the Dalai Lamas never “anointed” anyone on the throne. And they have no agreement with their Chinese comrades.
      2. +8
        6 August 2020 21: 56
        Quote: Halpat
        And communicates with someone, with a darned Gordon

        Therefore, he communicates with Gordon that he is a stubborn Russophobe. Lukashenkas urgently need to impose their interpretation of events on all the world. And who if not stubborn Russophobes will contribute to this?
    5. -1
      6 August 2020 07: 41
      They will give up the fighters and ours will be silent again. If they will return them from the ukroverrmacht so only by exchange. And before that they will be tortured to death there. And Lukashenka will be recognized after the elections. Porokha recognized and this is even more so.
    6. +4
      6 August 2020 07: 54
      Quote: parusnik
      Fairness is essential. If I see that they are trying to tilt my people, my people, Belarus - that's all.
      .... It started, the state, it's me smile

      I listened to his speech twice yesterday ---- a pile of contradictory statements, the impression that he is very uncomfortable ...
    7. 0
      6 August 2020 10: 57
      Luca forgot that when he tried to sit on two chairs, there was always a crack between them, just opposite the same hole.
    8. +5
      6 August 2020 21: 36
      Quote: parusnik
      It started, the state, it's me

      Tsar of all Belarus laughing
  2. +1
    6 August 2020 06: 25
    During the meeting, the two presidents discussed, among other things, the issue of the possible extradition of persons detained in Belarus to the Ukrainian side.
    It's time to carry out a special operation. This is "our people". angry
    1. +3
      6 August 2020 06: 42
      are you already before dawn with a knapsack at the door of the recruiting office ??? ...
      in my opinion, bow is bluffing ... an interview with this egghead is another message to the west ... my me, my, bourgeois ...
      1. +12
        6 August 2020 06: 58
        I really want to believe that this is so. But with each of his statements, the hope diminishes for a successful outcome for our men. hi
        1. -3
          6 August 2020 07: 31
          Quote: tralflot1832
          hope diminishes for a successful outcome for our men.

          I bet they'll be returned. The elections will be held now, the intensity will decrease, and they will return. Regardless of their purpose (!) Being in Belarus.
          And this "news" and conclusions from Ukraine are nothing more than incitement. hi
          1. -12
            6 August 2020 07: 42
            Eh, screwed up in the government of the Russian Federation! Can't help it!
            1. +1
              6 August 2020 07: 50
              and what to do? it is necessary to wait simply and wisely
              1. -6
                6 August 2020 08: 05
                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                and what to do?

                No, we must send troops! wassat
                Can I personally hear your suggestions on how to sort out the situation? Taking into account the fact that the guys were "muddy" there?
                1. +2
                  6 August 2020 08: 33
                  what troops! are talking nonsense! we must wait until the elections are held and then Lukash will return them
                  1. -1
                    6 August 2020 08: 36
                    Quote: Nastia Makarova
                    what troops! are talking nonsense!

                    Having a sense of humor in the morning really bad? wink
                    1. +2
                      6 August 2020 09: 17
                      tension with lukash, so there is somehow no time for fun
                2. 0
                  6 August 2020 10: 07
                  And you tell me, what is the likelihood that after an ultimatum to Shoigu, extradite Russian citizens within 24 hours, not detained for nothing?
                  1. 0
                    7 August 2020 07: 30
                    probability of what?
              2. +8
                6 August 2020 22: 00
                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                it is necessary to wait simply and wisely

                Not always, wait is a wise decision. Action is needed. What kind? I do not know. But politicians need to know.
                1. 0
                  7 August 2020 07: 31
                  Well!!! no one knows what actions are needed but require)))))
            2. +7
              6 August 2020 21: 59
              What are you talking about? the Russian government in this matter how?
      2. +3
        6 August 2020 06: 59
        Quote: kepmor
        are you already before dawn with a knapsack at the door of the recruiting office ??? ...

        And you decided to sit out under the sofa ??? .... Well, well.
        I think Luka is bluffing ..
        It is very possible, but it can also screw us up, with all my heart. request
        1. -1
          6 August 2020 07: 18
          Luka is cunning and resourceful, but not a suicide ... he is unlikely to take such a step ...
          he is simply very much afraid of the Maidan from the amerikosov, and therefore crap under the neighbor's door ... in the hope of then atonement for his sins in the Kremlin ...
          you see that the Kremlin silently looks at all its tricks ...
          they say, well, what's wrong with that ... well, the fool will play at sovereignty, get mad and come running to the half-bent ones, how cute ... and believe that all these pranks will be forgiven him again ...
          for the Kremlin, an onion is better than Sorov's babenzi from the street ...
  3. +17
    6 August 2020 06: 30
    "The green light will be given to the prosecutor's office and law enforcement agencies for the transfer of criminals to both Russia and Ukraine."

    I probably slept through the court that found them criminals.
    Who knows what crime they committed?
    1. +2
      6 August 2020 07: 25
      Usually they are tried after the issue. The requesting party provides facts of participation in a crime on its territory and, if they are found convincing, the suspects are referred.
      1. +3
        6 August 2020 08: 51
        I believe that first there is a trial in which these people will be called criminals and the result of which is a decision to file on the wanted list. And then appeals to Interpol, to the Foreign Ministry of the country in which these people are supposedly located.
        1. +10
          6 August 2020 22: 13
          In any case, there was nothing of the kind on the part of Ukraine. So, perhaps, there is a small chance that Lukashenka will not betray our guys to Ukraine.
    2. -9
      6 August 2020 07: 25
      Quote: Lipchanin
      I probably slept through the court that found them criminals.
      Who knows what crime they committed?

      One suspicion is quite enough, if it is based on something .. But as you can see, there are no grounds and there was no. They simply inflated a "bubble" in the media after Prilepin's interview. As if his words are the ultimate truth. As if this "writer" fought in the Donbass, and did not shoot his own videos with second-rate actors. All this is false and provocative. And the farther the more you see, the more on the VO website .. Previous posts on the defense industry barely get 40-50 comments, as soon as "Luka" and "PMC-a" for half an hour, 200 vyserov like flies on shit. And the funny thing is that 90% don't read them at all. Who will compost their brains voluntarily.
    3. -5
      6 August 2020 07: 31
      Participation in the database in Donbass on the side of the DPR. The republic is recognized in Ukraine as a terrorist organization. The main thing here is from what coordinates to dance. But, at the moment, while the advantage is in THEIR side:
      They recognized the DPR as terrorists,
      We did not recognize the DPR as a state.
      1. +5
        6 August 2020 07: 51
        they have Russian citizenship !!!!
        1. -5
          6 August 2020 08: 02
          NOT ONE de Jure world citizenship creates immunity in case of participation of a citizen in a terrorist organization.
          1. +5
            6 August 2020 08: 32
            what terrorist recognized organization are they affiliated with? DNR is not recognized as terrorists even by Ukrainians
      2. +7
        6 August 2020 08: 19
        Not DNR, not LNR NOT RECOGNIZED as terrorist organizations in Ukraine !!! No need to sketch here! And the guys are not citizens of LDNR, but citizens of Russia!
        But father decided to bury Belarus and this is a fact.
        1. +3
          6 August 2020 08: 41
          Teach materiel.
          "The Supreme Court of Ukraine ruled that the recognition of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk" people's republics "as terrorist organizations at the state level is not a necessary condition for convicting their members and informants for terrorism."

          "To bring a person to criminal liability under Art. 258-3 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (creation of a terrorist group or terrorist organization) does not require a decision of state authorities to recognize certain activities as terrorist."
      3. +6
        6 August 2020 22: 15
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Participation in the database in Donbass on the side of the DPR

        Is there evidence that they fought, besides Prilepin's words?
        1. 0
          6 August 2020 22: 22
          Well, since certain surnames are required, then, probably, there are?
          1. +9
            6 August 2020 22: 27
            I think that the Ukrainian side has no evidence of their participation in the database in Donbass. They simply caught hold of several citizens who lived in the territory of Donetsk and Lugansk. Whether these guys still have Ukrainian citizenship or not, it is also not known yet. There are too many unknowns. But this is just my personal opinion. hi
  4. +10
    6 August 2020 06: 37
    it's time to tilt Lukashenka so that he doesn't straighten
  5. +7
    6 August 2020 06: 37
    Well, if President Lukashenko gives an interview to Gordon, then there is nowhere to fall below.
    If I see that they are trying to tilt my people, my people, Belarus - that's all.
    This is really all (full paragraph) for Lukashenka. Once again it started: "trying to tilt", "put in an uncomfortable position", etc., etc. We heard more than once before bargaining on energy resources, and discontent that it is forbidden to sell Polish and other goods (products) that fall under Russian sanctions under the guise of Belarusian ... For Lukashenka, the moment of truth has come and this truth is not in his favor.
    1. +9
      6 August 2020 07: 11
      if everything ends well for Father and peacefully and with the desired result, then the boys will return to Moscow. if it gets out of control and the movement begins to bloody snot, then the guys in hostages can send them to Kiev. 28 fought in Debaltseve. 9 with Ukrainian passports
      1. +3
        6 August 2020 07: 52
        they all have Russian citizenship
      2. +3
        6 August 2020 08: 21
        There is no one with Ukrainian passports, everyone has Russian, and 13 people are from Donetsk, do not confuse.
    2. +8
      6 August 2020 22: 17
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Well, if President Lukashenko gives an interview to Gordon, then there is nowhere to fall below

      I'm sure this one will find ...
  6. +8
    6 August 2020 06: 39
    I, like most of my colleagues on the site, hope that Lukashenka will not commit another meanness and will not hand over the detained Russians to Ukraine, to certain death. It is obvious that Lukashenka has taken up his favorite thing - blackmailing Russia, and again wants to get more concessions from Russia. The moment of truth has come, no, not for Lukashenka, everything is clear with him, but for Putin, are we handing over our people or not, dear Guarantor?
    1. LMN
      +5
      6 August 2020 06: 44
      for Putin, are we handing over ours or not, dear Guarantor?

      In your opinion, what is the scope of the RF reaction?
      1. +7
        6 August 2020 06: 59
        Quote: LMN
        what is the scope of the RF reaction?

        No, I dismiss the power options right away. To begin with, the diplomatic, the Belarusian ambassador is summoned to the Russian Foreign Ministry twice a day, where they are strictly demanding to clarify the situation and demanding the immediate release of the detainees, pressure from the CSTO and the EEC. Then the economic pressure, I will not elaborate, I hope it is clear, soon to go to work, pressure in the media, well, Putin picks up the phone and says Rygorych! you're nuts..
        1. +1
          6 August 2020 07: 06
          It looks like this crisis will show whether we know how to defend our interests, and I would like this Unified State Exam not to be overwhelmed by state structures. hi
        2. LMN
          +4
          6 August 2020 07: 09
          Putin picks up the phone

          It will not happen!
          You cannot talk to terrorists.
          What Belarus is doing now is called "state terrorism".
          And the President of the Russian Federation will not talk to a terrorist .. request
        3. +3
          6 August 2020 08: 24
          Diplomatic work is going on with the summons of the ambassador, etc.
          And after such tricks of the Bulbafuehrer, the level of communication with him is the maximum ambassador or deputy foreign minister. If VVP then calls him, it's a shame.
          1. 0
            6 August 2020 08: 40
            Quote: K-612-O
            If VVP then calls him, it's a shame.

            Shame you say? is it not a shame to abandon 33 Russian citizens, condemning them to death? I don't know what Putin will decide, I would have called, a shame, but the life of the guys is more precious.
            1. 0
              6 August 2020 08: 45
              Who left them? The consuls finally made their way to them. And now the deputy head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs will communicate with Rygorych.
              We still need to see what kind of booze goes on 10.08.
              And will Russia recognize the result of these elections, because except for us and China, no one has recognized these elections for a long time.
              1. -2
                6 August 2020 08: 52
                Quote: K-612-O
                And now the deputy head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs will communicate with Rygorych.

                Well, they reassured me, it's good that not the third secretary of the Russian ambassador in Minsk.
      2. +5
        6 August 2020 07: 21
        Maxim! What is the framework? Unclear. Most likely, he will indeed send some of the people to Ukraine. What then? Never mind. Indistinct muttering. Well, let's say Rospotrebnadzor finds it. say, worms in Belarusian cheese. But this melancholy will not come to dad, but to innocent farmers. Well, Putin will stop talking to dad. There will be other comforters for dad, but if dad seems unkosher to them, he will follow in the footsteps of Yanukovych, but not to Rostov, but, say, to Kiev. So there are no ways to punish in the current situation.
        1. LMN
          0
          6 August 2020 08: 52
          Well, if to Kiev, then to Kiev .. request
          Putin, read Russia, will not merge in any case.

          Wherever you want, there and merge .. soldier
          RF is always young ...
          This does not mean that Belarus can take hostages ... No.
      3. +1
        6 August 2020 07: 52
        Quote: LMN
        In your opinion, what is the scope of the RF reaction?
        No one will act blindly, everyone will show Luke's real steps. It is impossible to look for a black cat in a dark room, but smart people know that not so much is needed to resolve this issue - turn on the light!
    2. +8
      6 August 2020 06: 51
      Quote: Anatol Klim
      I, like most of my colleagues on the site, hope that Lukashenko will not commit another meanness and will not hand over the detained Russians to Ukraine, to certain death.

      And for some reason I am sure that it will. This is the usual cockroach style - both you and them... The only question is how many people he will give to Ukraine, and how many to Russia.
      but for Putin, are we handing over ours or not, dear Guarantor?
      Come on, these high-flown speeches. Look at how many Russians are in jails around the world. They are stolen and given to others by all and sundry, and the Russian authorities can only shamefully bleat about their concerns. What we have at all preoccupied Ministry of Foreign Affairs negative
      1. 0
        6 August 2020 07: 40
        mdsr. You are right in this, I join. I quote you "Come on, those high-flown speeches". And in this case, and in everyone else! Our propaganda must stop throwing phrases like“ We don’t surrender our own. "What was it released to Butina? What a breakthrough!. So they didn’t surrender? By the way, this also applies to spies from the United States arrested in Russia. In the United States, the press secretary does not speak with the words “We don’t surrender our Americans.” Gotcha is a matter of everyday life. he meets up in prison and brings what the spy needs.
      2. +3
        6 August 2020 08: 04
        mdsr (mdsr)
        And for some reason I am sure that it will give

        I am absolutely sure it will. The guys with Ukrainian passports will give to Ukraine. The rest will be given to both sides. Lukashenka will do this vileness after the elections. Such vile behavior is absolutely in his nature.
        1. +3
          6 August 2020 08: 30
          There are no people with Ukrainian passports! All with Russian passports!
          1. +1
            6 August 2020 08: 35
            Of course you are right. I was not accurate. Who will go on such a business trip with Ukrainian passports? Apparently, the unit retained or had Ukrainian citizenship. The press mentions 9 people.
            1. +1
              6 August 2020 08: 41
              13 people, natives of Donetsk and Donetsk region. And they have Russian passports in their hands.
              And the Sumerians should remember where the diesel fuel flows from to them, and Batske shouldn't forget what he's driving her from.
              I suspect after 9.08 kipish will start in Belarus and Russia will not save the father.
          2. +5
            6 August 2020 10: 11
            Quote: K-612-O
            There are no people with Ukrainian passports! All with Russian passports!

            Ukraine does not recognize Russian passports issued after 2014. All Crimeans who have received a Russian passport under Ukrainian law are considered citizens of Ukraine. In the same situation, residents of Donetsk, Luhansk, who received a Russian passport. Their issued Russian passports are not particularly favored in the world. Try to get a visa with a passport from Crimea.
            So there is a legal basis for extradition.
            On the other hand, remember how many Ukrainian militias were handed over by Russia! - A few dozens!
            From Russia - for Novorossiya
            https://www.gazeta.ru/politics/2016/07/12_a_9678047.shtml
        2. +6
          6 August 2020 09: 29
          I would venture to suggest what will happen after the extradition of people to Ukraine. If they are, of course, given out. The Ukrainian media will have a seizure of another recession over Mordor. Our media will explain that of course it is bad that it happened, but "we do not abandon our own." This means that the consul of the Russian Federation will visit them already in the Ukrainian prison and carry parcels. Long and tough exchange negotiations will begin. Fortunately, as I heard, ukroshpions were arrested in Crimea, and in other places it will be typed. I'm not sure that they all have Ukrainian citizenship, but they will scrape together for extradition, if it turns out to be not enough, then they will also be arrested to the required amount. In a couple of years they will be solemnly exchanged. And on RTV they will explain to us "we said that we do not abandon our own, so we did not abandon them"
    3. +1
      6 August 2020 06: 52
      depending on what you put into it. no one refuses them, and within the legal framework, I think everything is possible. and if you start to bend now, then rather play into the hands of Lukashenka. I think he is now waiting for a tough reaction. before the elections, I think they will not do anything too harsh.
  7. +7
    6 August 2020 06: 43
    It looks like the doctors are right. The effects of the caronovirus on the body are not fully understood. In some, it affects the brain, to a greater or lesser extent. Special operation for forced extradition? am
    1. +1
      6 August 2020 06: 55
      What other special operation ??? As our guarantor put it, he and daddy have "such chemistry."
      It will be like this: once again they will wipe their feet on us. And we will settle down and make discounts.
      Now the citizens of Russia cannot simply enter the territory of Belarus. Need invitations, etc.
      I have a question: why not just implement mirror measures and that's it.
      But no, let's show concern. Shame ..
  8. -3
    6 August 2020 07: 02
    Not that you can take the statements of a journalist like Gordon, Solovyov and others seriously.
  9. +4
    6 August 2020 07: 27
    Now you do not need to have a receiver with short waves. Everything that is said on these famous radio stations will be written by our media. It seems that Lukashenko has become objectionable to everyone, both to the West and to us. This is a big game. If you delve into it, you can end up in a psychiatric hospital.
    1. +2
      6 August 2020 08: 02
      You just need to mark the main events.
      And the main previous event is the meeting between Lukashenka and Pompeo in Minsk.
      Torgash Lukashenko apparently received instructions on how to get the great Western gingerbread.
      Now it works out.
      1. +1
        6 August 2020 09: 49
        And it is possible that the United States laid hands on Batskin babos in Qatar and the Emirates, which I think was much more convincing than virtual poes
      2. +7
        6 August 2020 22: 32
        But only this is the catch. On June 19, 2020, Lukashenka said that "nothing sparks" in their relationship with the Russian leader, despite some problems. State agency "BelTA" informs about it
        1. +8
          6 August 2020 22: 36
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          All this I mean is that Lukashenka is trying to sit on two chairs.
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  12. -4
    6 August 2020 08: 15
    Quote: Reptiloid
    Quote: parusnik
    Fairness is essential. If I see that they are trying to tilt my people, my people, Belarus - that's all.
    .... It started, the state, it's me smile

    I listened to his speech twice yesterday ---- a pile of contradictory statements, the impression that he is very uncomfortable ...

    Yes, anyway, in any case, the bow will be re-elected, and with the same percentage as the bald one came out in the "popular vote" - 78%
  13. +2
    6 August 2020 08: 50
    Is the journalist's surname written without a mistake?
  14. 0
    6 August 2020 08: 56
    Quote: K-612-O

    I suspect after 9.08 kipish will start in Belarus and Russia will not save the father.

    Most likely it will.
  15. +2
    6 August 2020 09: 09
    I see that no one even admits the possibility of transferring the detainees to Ukraine, but in vain. This will be a real humiliation for Russia. True, the dad will sign a verdict for himself as a politician, but he is quite capable of inadequate steps.
    1. +1
      6 August 2020 09: 52
      Why, I wrote about this as soon as he hinted about it, and the Sumerian authorities started yelling about it. Everything seems to be agreed there.
    2. +4
      6 August 2020 10: 18
      Quote: APASUS
      I see no one even admits the possibility of transferring detainees to Ukraine, but in vain

      just the opposite! Real thinkers evaluate such a perspective as real. And, unfortunately, it very much can be. But there are no levers for Kostya Saprykin. At the moment, there is a bargaining for the presidency.
      Analysts say. that there are 2 opposite points in the EU on this matter: some do not want to interfere, others want to repeat the version of Ukraine in order to involve Russia in the internal affairs of Belarus with subsequent sanctions. Nobody knows what will happen next. But Lukashenko is the last chance for Russia to keep Belarus in its orbit.
      1. +1
        6 August 2020 12: 45
        Quote: Silvestr
        But Lukashenko is the last chance for Russia to keep Belarus in its orbit.

        This is still a very controversial issue, but Russia is the last chance to stay in power in Belarus, so it is indisputable. Having swung to the West, Lukashenka will never again fall into power and his fate will be under a very big question
    3. +9
      6 August 2020 22: 39
      Just read it on the Kommersant website
      Lukashenko: Belarus will not hand over the detained Russians to Ukraine without proof of guilt.
      https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4443674
      So understand after all this Lukashenka ...
  16. 0
    6 August 2020 09: 37
    well, if he transfers it, this is a betrayal of the Russian Federation and its citizens by this Lukashenko
  17. 0
    6 August 2020 09: 41
    For the transfer of Russian citizens to a third party, but father will sign himself a disappointing verdict.
  18. -2
    6 August 2020 09: 50
    Apparently, the version that Lukashenka was set up by his entourage is getting closer to the truth. And he doesn't know how to get out. Just to apologize is a grandiose bummer just before the elections, how can you justify yourself for doing something stupid? And such statements by "independent journalists" are an element of pressure on the Russian leadership. They say let's turn everything quietly, otherwise I will give people to Ukraine. I paid a little for this Gordon, and now it stank. Lukashenka has long been slipping on his own senseless maneuvers ...
  19. -1
    6 August 2020 09: 53
    Only Russians can be tilted.
    Eehh, Russia has been crumbling.
    1. +18
      6 August 2020 23: 52
      it is politicians who have shrunk, and Russia is slowly dying out, thanks to the actions and decisions of politicians
  20. +3
    6 August 2020 10: 41
    Sorry for those arrested ... but for me the development of this
    events are a litmus test of how the state treats its citizens.
  21. 0
    6 August 2020 10: 42
    Treason to the allied state in the form of going over to the side of the enemy.
  22. -1
    6 August 2020 10: 49
    The provocateur Go..don ALWAYS strives to do nasty things to Russia and to embroil everyone with her. In this case - to pass off the vague words of Lukashenka for his firm decision to extradite the Russians to Ukraine for reprisal.
    1. +1
      6 August 2020 11: 26
      If these were killers sent to eliminate him, he himself would have personally shot them, and even made a movie.
  23. +2
    6 August 2020 11: 09
    Surname Guo, don, for some reason they write with an error. It is with this character that she, by definition, does not seem to be so. Lukashenko, of course, is seriously ill, but to hand over 404 Russian citizens is beyond the bounds. The essence of Lukashenka is trade and extortion. Issuance to Ukraine will forever make it incapable of negotiation. They do not conduct such cases, but wants to be at the helm for life. Isolated from Russia, Belarus will become North Korea, only without a bomb.
  24. 0
    6 August 2020 11: 17
    Gordon is not a journalist, but an SBU agent. Lukashenko's contacts with the Security Service of Ukraine against the backdrop of an exacerbation with Moscow is a diagnosis.
  25. -2
    6 August 2020 12: 01
    A real communist internationalist!
    1. +15
      6 August 2020 23: 51
      you seem to be a real communists and internationalists have never met
      1. 0
        7 August 2020 00: 01
        Lukoshenko is the real
        Party member
        Army Commissioner
        Collective farm chairman
        Dictator
        for corruption
        Partocrat
        Gerontocrat
        Well, everything is with him :))
  26. 0
    6 August 2020 16: 12
    Luke is a multi-stationer. He is no stranger to: both ours and yours. Apart from disgust, such a chairman of a state farm causes nothing ...
  27. -2
    6 August 2020 16: 20
    The journalist Go.don got in a hurry. Here is a tricky glossy opa. Lukashenka drinks pills of courage every day. A very old man moved out of the gull.
  28. -3
    6 August 2020 18: 02
    In Ukraine, Gordon and in Russia, nightingale droppings
  29. 0
    6 August 2020 18: 33
    Stole it - to jail.
  30. 0
    6 August 2020 20: 59
    We get fucked up without Gordon))
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  31. +1
    8 August 2020 00: 52
    Is there an extradition of citizens of one country to third countries. A strange message.