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Protects from light in a nuclear explosion: there is evidence of a special coating for the glazing of the Su-57

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There is fresh information about the special glazing made for the fifth generation fighter Su-57. Andrey Silkin, General Director of ONPP "Technology", talks about him. This research and production association is a development company for the latest combat aircraft.


According to Andrey Silkin, quoted by the Interfax news agency, the glazing for the Su-57 is such that it can protect the pilot from the negative effects of a wide range of radiation: infrared, ultraviolet, as well as exposure to intense light radiation in a nuclear explosion. This is facilitated by the use of new materials.

New materials made it possible to achieve an increase in the impact strength of glazing by about two times, while its weight was halved.

According to the general director of ONPP, this was achieved through the use of technology for molding aircraft "glass" from sheet monolithic polycarbonate and with the help of magnetron deposition of a special coating based on an alloy of In-Sn (indium-tin) and gold. It is this coating in a special ratio that protects the pilot from the effects of intense light and a certain spectrum of other frequencies of electromagnetic radiation.

Earlier it was reported that the Su-57 aircraft has a significantly lower mass than the aircraft of the same size, made using "conventional" materials. The use of composites made it possible to achieve this.

Andrey Silkin added that the use of new materials and compounds significantly lowers the radar signature of the 5th generation fighter.
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 August 2020 14: 29
    11
    Here I can only confirm ... Excellent coverage, it also absorbs the radio emission from the instruments in the cockpit. Otherwise, even these weak signals can be detected ...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 5 August 2020 14: 35
      +7
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      just confirm ...

      If so, then a good and necessary piece! hi
      1. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 5 August 2020 14: 41
        +4
        According to Andrey Silkin, quoted by the Interfax news agency, the glazing for the Su-57 is such that it can protect the pilot from the negative effects of a wide range of radiation: infrared, ultraviolet, as well as exposure to intense light radiation in a nuclear explosion. This is facilitated by the use of new materials.

        New materials made it possible to achieve an increase in the impact strength of glazing by about two times, while its weight was halved.

        According to the general director of ONPP, this was achieved through the use of technology for molding aircraft "glass" from sheet monolithic polycarbonate and with the help of magnetron deposition of a special coating based on an alloy of In-Sn (indium-tin) and gold. It is this coating in a special ratio that protects the pilot from the effects of intense light and a certain spectrum of other frequencies of electromagnetic radiation.



        Good for flyers on Su-57 yes , The traffic policeman (GIBBDeshnik) does not need to buy additional items before "toning" lol
        1. For example
          For example 5 August 2020 14: 54
          +1
          We need such glasses in the auto industry
          WestCh good
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 5 August 2020 23: 03
            0
            Quote: For example
            We need such glasses in the auto industry

            What is it ? When there is a car, and there is no money for a hotel ... and it is scary to lead a "girl" into the apartment ... the neighbors will lay it down !? what
    2. dauria
      dauria 5 August 2020 15: 13
      +7
      it also absorbs the radio emission from the instruments in the cockpit.

      I hope you’re joking .... On this site, and radio engineers "hang around" sometimes.
      1. Ilshat
        Ilshat 5 August 2020 15: 22
        -2
        Gold is a conductor.
        Rather, the radiation does not go through the glass and does not unmask.
        1. dauria
          dauria 5 August 2020 15: 42
          +5
          Rather, the radiation does not go through the glass and does not unmask.

          Stop it ... All emitting and receiving units are not in the cockpit, but scattered all over the glider. This time. The purpose of the cover is to reflect falling outside radiation and form the desired scattering pattern. Instead of a "clumsy" in the radar range, the cockpit with a seat and a pilot's pumpkin
          1. Ilshat
            Ilshat 5 August 2020 15: 45
            -1
            Do you know that back in the 70s, one of the methods of radio intelligence was the detection of heterodyne receivers?
            Receivers, no confusion.
            All, that is, really all radiates.
            1. dauria
              dauria 5 August 2020 15: 59
              +6
              was the detection of receiver local oscillators?


              Let's talk about real things and devices, eh? About real sensitivity, power, range, equipment. And not that any heated body has a spectrum of radiation. And any flick of the toggle switch generates a video pulse with an infinite spectrum width. Or will you also shield the radio altimeter antenna? After all, it has side ones, you cannot get rid of them.
              1. Ilshat
                Ilshat 5 August 2020 16: 06
                0
                I agree that the radiation of devices and screens in the cockpit is most likely not of practical importance.
                That, however, does not change the fact that the conductive coating reflects radiation, moreover, from both sides.
                PS: radio altimeter can be turned off, use barometric.
              2. Mountain shooter
                Mountain shooter 5 August 2020 19: 26
                +3
                Quote: dauria
                Let's talk about real things and devices, eh? About real sensitivity, power, range, equipment. And not that any heated body has a spectrum of radiation. And any flick of the toggle switch generates a video pulse with an infinite spectrum width

                Let's. Only I actually sprayed these coatings and measured their parameters. The same coatings (in principle, not in composition) are sprayed by the Americans on the lanterns of their fighters. So what? Are you accusing me of incompetence? These coatings are still being sprayed in Obninsk. Installation with a two-storey house. You can also search the network. True, the journalists misinterpret everything, but you can understand something ...
                1. Aibolit
                  Aibolit 6 August 2020 14: 18
                  -3
                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  Only I actually sprayed these coatings and measured their parameters. The same coatings (by principle, not by composition) are sprayed by the Americans on the lanterns of their fighters.

                  If so, please comment on Andrey Silkin's nonsense:
                  as well as exposure to intense light radiation in a nuclear explosion.

                  Delirium like:
                  1.the probability of a "collision" of a nuclear explosion and radiation with a SU-57 flashlight is ZERO
                  2.Even if the event in clause 1 happened - no coverage will save the pilot if the aircraft is in the danger zone (inverse square law) and the coverage provides the pilot with a decent normal view with a light transmission coefficient of at least 90%
                  The light radiation of a nuclear explosion (35% of all energy is for light radiation) is electromagnetic radiation in the optical range, including ultraviolet (0,01 - 0,38 microns), visible (0,38 - 0,77 microns) and infrared (0,77, 340-XNUMX μ) spectral regions.

                  At 4-6 cal / cm2 - second-degree burns (against the background of edematous skin, bubbles of different sizes are formed, filled with a transparent yellowish liquid - 200-400 kJ / m2).

                  At 6-12 cal / cm2, third-degree burns (complete necrosis of the skin and the formation of ulcers - 400-600 kJ / m2)

                  With a light pulse of more than 12 cal / cm2, fourth degree burns (charring of the skin, necrosis of the deep layers of the skin and underlying tissues (subcutaneous fatty tissue, muscles, bones) - more than 600 kJ / m2).

                  Simply, like all "effective managers" of our nullified president,
                  Silkin Andrey Nikolaevich-graduated from KhZCh, and more specifically Kazan State University in the specialty "civil law".
                  here he is carrying a blizzard-arbidol
        2. BARKAS
          BARKAS 5 August 2020 16: 01
          +1
          Gold is used for spraying on window panes in residential premises; it is the best reflector of solar radiation.
      2. fa2998
        fa2998 5 August 2020 17: 29
        +3
        And what kind of flower "absorbs", there is a computer in the children's bedroom, wait, I'll ask my wife the name! lol laughing hi
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 5 August 2020 19: 32
          +3
          Quote: fa2998
          And what kind of flower "absorbs", there is a computer in the children's bedroom, wait, I'll ask my wife the name!

          The flower is nonsense. And the foil. For example, permalloy? With increased resistance? This is the basis of radio absorption. Not a transparent material, and not reflective ... Namely absorbing. Nobody noticed how the cell phone signal goes out when you enter a building glazed with modern glass with a coating that reflects IR? The so-called "heat-saving"? The coating on lanterns works on the same principle. Only abruptly ...
      3. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 5 August 2020 19: 17
        +3
        Quote: dauria
        it also absorbs the radio emission from the instruments in the cockpit.

        I hope you’re joking .... On this site, and radio engineers "hang around" sometimes.
        Reply

        Want to discuss? Excuse me. The specific conductivity of this coating is 4 Ohm / square. The radio transparency of such a coverage in all ranges is about 30 dB (absorption plus reflection). Well, really?
      4. mvg
        mvg 5 August 2020 21: 15
        0
        I hope you are joking ...

        What jokes, can you imagine how the IPS matrix fonit? And what about the optical radar? Yes, just uzhos, on the wings of the night .. phew, su-57!
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 5 August 2020 17: 26
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Excellent coverage, and also absorbs the radio emission of instruments in the cockpit.

      Oh really! belay How? Doesn't let it out, or what?
    4. Voyager
      Voyager 5 August 2020 19: 16
      0
      Have you solved the problem with the flashlight bubbles?
  2. Maks1995
    Maks1995 5 August 2020 14: 37
    0
    "Earlier it was reported that the Su-57 has a significantly lower mass than the aircraft of the same size, made using" conventional "materials."

    And in the wiki and specialized military sites Mass and Dimensions, the load of the Su 57 does not differ much from the SU35.
    Someone is lying. And all earlier and earlier.

    Glass that protects from the sun and radiation at a height should already protect against explosion by default ...
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 5 August 2020 14: 40
      +9
      Quote: Max1995
      And in the wiki and specialized military sites Mass and Dimensions,

      Don't say anymore that Wikipedia is a competent source. They just won't understand you.
      1. Maks1995
        Maks1995 5 August 2020 14: 43
        -8
        Thanks for the advice.
        True, you came up with everything yourself, but thanks anyway ...
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 5 August 2020 14: 46
          +8
          Quote: Max1995
          True, you came up with everything yourself, but thanks anyway ...

          It’s just in Vick that they write all and sundry from the bald, and you here pass it off as a truth and a competent source. There, a 12-year-old sikilyavka will write that a tank cannon will be attached to the SU-57, and here you will also say that this is all true, and you are all lying here?
          1. Maks1995
            Maks1995 5 August 2020 14: 53
            -5
            Yes, let it be.
            1) "that Wikipedia is a competent source." - purely yours
            2) "Someone is lying." - I have. Maybe a wiki.
            3) specialized military sites - I looked once, 57 and 35 are close in performance characteristics
            None "has a significantly lower mass" - 2, or even 3 times "Previously reported" - nowhere.
            Someone is lying.
            Either the article or the sites that I watched.

            Dialectics, however.
            1. Ilshat
              Ilshat 5 August 2020 14: 56
              +1
              It was about four times less.
              Which is clearly not possible.
            2. NEXUS
              NEXUS 5 August 2020 14: 56
              +6
              Quote: Max1995
              profile military sites - once looked, 57 and 35 are close in performance characteristics

              Performance characteristics are completely different from the word, even taking into account the fact that many components and electronics are on the 35th from the SU-57. These are different platforms percussion from the word completely and in terms of capabilities and in avionics and in performance characteristics in general. Although the SU-35 is a great fighter, even in maneuverability it is far behind the 57, as well as in speed and radar capabilities.
              1. Ilshat
                Ilshat 5 August 2020 15: 00
                +7
                What is the conversation!
                Due to new materials, the available overload has increased, the weight of the equipment - the total weight has changed little!
              2. Maks1995
                Maks1995 5 August 2020 15: 17
                -8
                There are flight characteristics, and there are technical ones - length, width, weight, fuel, empty, full, etc.
                So they are similar. ... The difference is + - two meters, about nothing.
                None - "3 times lighter with the same dimensions, so it flies 3 times faster, 3 times farther and with triple armament" there is no trace of it.

                Well, about the difference about radar, stealth, electronics, engines of the 3rd stage, there was no question.
                1. Lt. Air Force stock
                  Lt. Air Force stock 5 August 2020 17: 57
                  +4
                  Quote: Max1995
                  There are flight characteristics, and there are technical ones - length, width, weight, fuel, empty, full, etc.
                  So they are similar. ... The difference is + - two meters, about nothing.
                  None - "3 times lighter with the same dimensions, so it flies 3 times faster, 3 times farther and with triple armament" there is no trace of it.

                  Well, about the difference about radar, stealth, electronics, engines of the 3rd stage, there was no question.

                  On the Su-57, the tail rudders are fully rotated, on the Su-35S they are not.
          2. Ilshat
            Ilshat 5 August 2020 14: 54
            0
            Wikipedia Faith More.
            Here it is generally strange they write.
          3. For example
            For example 5 August 2020 14: 57
            +6
            Quote: NEXUS
            a tank cannon will be attached to the SU-57

            There she is.
            only hidden in internal compartments.
            And there are caterpillars. Also hidden.
            Four tankers are there.
            And the dog, of course.
            And they are all hidden in the inner compartments.

            Flying tank!

            Terrible thing!
            1. prior
              prior 5 August 2020 15: 18
              -2
              What caliber tank gun is on the SU-57? With or without automatic loader?
              1. uladzimir.surko
                uladzimir.surko 5 August 2020 15: 39
                0
                1250mm az no but nigga shoved wassat
              2. Simargl
                Simargl 5 August 2020 15: 47
                -1
                152 mm.
                Without (4 tankers and a dog)
              3. frei67
                frei67 5 August 2020 18: 50
                0
                duck, after all, it's as clear as daylight 57 mm
      2. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 5 August 2020 15: 08
        +1
        There are so many Wikipedia specialists now ...)))
        1. Maks1995
          Maks1995 5 August 2020 15: 22
          -3
          Especially now I looked not at VIK ...
          objectiv-x_ru and airwar_ru ....
          Nothing has changed ... as they were similar, they remain ...

          Also, probably enemy agents, hiding that the Su 57 is 35 times lighter than the Su 3 ....)))

          Oh yes, tass_ru - at 4 !!!! times .....
  3. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 5 August 2020 14: 59
    +5
    Why talk about polycarbonate and gold? Is it really impossible to troll the Americans, say, thanks to an alloy of lead, iron and wood chips. Let them break their brains and conduct research.
    1. stalki
      stalki 6 August 2020 14: 44
      +1
      Why talk about polycarbonate and gold? Is it really impossible to troll the Americans, say, thanks to an alloy of lead, iron and wood chips. Let them break their brains and conduct research.
      So maybe these are the same sawdust wink
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 6 August 2020 14: 53
        +1
        laughing gold, well then offset.
        It was necessary to write more about platinum, otherwise their fighters are too cheap.
  4. demo
    demo 5 August 2020 15: 00
    +2
    Scientists have found that boron nitride absorbs 99.99% infrared radiation
    29.12.2015
    https://mipt.ru/newsblog/lenta/uchenye_vyyasnili_chto_nitrid_bora_pogloshchaet_99_99_infrakrasnogo_izlucheniya_
    1. Ilshat
      Ilshat 5 August 2020 15: 03
      +1
      Indium tin for the same purpose.
  5. Magic archer
    Magic archer 5 August 2020 15: 00
    +2
    And I would also like to see on new machines what amers have from the fourth generation. Unbound glazing!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 5 August 2020 15: 07
      +2
      Quote: Magic Archer
      And I would also like to see on new machines what amers have from the fourth generation. Unbound glazing!

      Well, of course ... and also the cover that comes off the fighter, right? Everything is like the great Americans should have.
      The fact that we have different (and this is putting it mildly) approaches to the concept of fighter aircraft with mattresses, why think about it, right? Tell me you need to attach the nozzles to the SU-57 as flat as in a lizard ... so the F-35 has a nozzle that is neither square nor triangular.
      Don't like the binding ... does it affect the EPR much?
      Our stake is on speed, super-maneuverability, and radar ... stealth technology is not a panacea for the word at all. All modern radars, to one degree or another, see these stealth-shmels. The developer of our SU-57 clearly said that the RCS value of the 57th is about the same as that of the Lizard, and this is with a cockpit binding, round nozzles, etc.
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 5 August 2020 15: 18
        0
        And where is the stupidity of amerikosov or what we are the smartest. Unbound glazing improves the pilot's view, there are no blind spots, and that's it. The pilot is just more comfortable.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 5 August 2020 15: 20
          +4
          Quote: Free Wind
          And where is the stupidity of amerikosov or what we are the smartest. Unbound glazing improves the pilot's view, there are no blind spots, and that's it. The pilot is just more comfortable.

          And you were sitting in the cockpit of the SU-57 that you declare that the pilot is not comfortable and the view is limited?
          1. Ilshat
            Ilshat 5 August 2020 15: 32
            0
            I honestly also thought - is the binding really so critical?
            But, nevertheless, it somehow interferes, it does not happen otherwise, it is not transparent.
          2. Magic archer
            Magic archer 5 August 2020 15: 36
            +2
            Dear Nexus. I just expressed my opinion on the glazing, where does your speculation about the coating, nozzles, and the like, I have no idea. All I know is that smooth glazing gives many advantages to an airplane. I remember how the Luftwaffe pilots tested the MiG-29 after merging with the GDR. And you know what they didn't like the most? It is the limited visibility from the cockpit. And the binding is one of the reasons. So leave the speculation to yourself
            1. 5-9
              5-9 5 August 2020 17: 45
              +6
              I am afraid to ask, on which plane the German pilots were corrupted by the clear light and excellent visibility - on the Tornado or on the Phantom?
          3. Free wind
            Free wind 5 August 2020 17: 24
            0
            Of course not. But the wide windshield pillars on cars, very limited visibility when driving through intersections, especially the right side.
        2. 5-9
          5-9 5 August 2020 17: 43
          +3
          It is believed that one of the reasons for the high accident rate of the F-16 is the loss of orientation by the pilot due to the uninterrupted flashlight.
          But you were 10 years behind ... it was only possible to hate Russian planes because of the flashlight until the appearance of the Phy-35
      2. Voyager
        Voyager 5 August 2020 19: 16
        -2
        I would like not to see manufacturing defects in the form of bubbles on the Su-57 ... But unfortunately on some flight models they are in place.
  6. Andrey.AN
    Andrey.AN 5 August 2020 15: 09
    0
    From laser irradiation, you need not just a coating, but a smart liquid crystal, so that when the sensor recognizes an increase in monochrome radiation from a laser looking for a target, turn on the filter. The laser beam is actually not so thin, it diverges with the square of the distance across the targeting vector, this should be detected and the filter cut in before the beam hits the eyes.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 5 August 2020 15: 18
      +4
      Yes "in the eyes" of the pilot of a modern fighter with that laser beam still come and hit ... It's not a civilian liner, which is "in a strict echelon." If they do, then for a split second. When taking off or landing - a separate conversation, but in this case, those who will "sparkle" with a laser near the airfield will be quickly explained that they are wrong ...
    2. Free wind
      Free wind 5 August 2020 15: 24
      +4
      Welding mask "chameleon" is our everything. Indeed, the face is already covered with a mask, chameleon glasses seem to be enough. In the newsreel footage, scientists, and the pilots that dropped the bombs, were all wearing glasses. And the Chinese put on gas masks and dark glasses, they wore horses and dogs, they probably saw.
    3. Andrey.AN
      Andrey.AN 5 August 2020 15: 28
      -4
      There are no schoolchildren with pointers, the question is to protect faster than they can find, and a split second may be enough to cripple. Well, the American pilots apparently decided to abandon their advanced helmets, if the news does not lie, they are going to redo the entire flashlight under the LCD screen.
  7. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 5 August 2020 15: 24
    +4
    This is a coating to reduce radio signature, basically.
    It is made on the F-16, F-22, F-35 cabins
  8. fa2998
    fa2998 5 August 2020 16: 08
    -1
    Quote: BDRM 667
    Good for flyers on Su-57

    Well, right between the nuclear "mushrooms" flies, the glass protects. It's like sun glasses. lol
    And the fact that there is a shock wave is sickly, the wings are torn off, and an electromagnetic pulse that completely removes ALL electronics is not important. wassat hi hi
    1. Ilshat
      Ilshat 5 August 2020 16: 40
      +1
      Quote: fa2998
      an electromagnetic pulse that completely removes

      They thought about it back in the 60s ...
      It does not output anything, the solutions have been worked out long ago.
      1. fa2998
        fa2998 5 August 2020 16: 46
        -2
        In the 60s, there were radio tubes in electronics, which was returned again.?
        1. Ilshat
          Ilshat 5 August 2020 16: 51
          +3
          Nope, we remembered the Faraday cage and suppressors.
  9. mlad
    mlad 5 August 2020 17: 57
    0
    But the lantern could be made without binding
  10. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 5 August 2020 20: 18
    +1
    Tse great.
    However, such coatings have long been protecting both astronauts and aircraft glazing from the sun and radiation at altitude.

    And about "sheet monolithic polycarbonate" and about "In-Sn (indium-tin) and gold", I remember, has long been. Well, just now?

    And about "the Su-57 aircraft has a significantly lower mass than the aircraft of the same size," - generally ridiculous.
    Tolley blurted out without understanding, or if he lied for the "overcoming" until the troops reached ...
    The planes are touted every week, look - both the weight and the dimensions of it are very similar to the rest of the SU.
    Storage and production stage, however)))) 0.
  11. Pup1
    Pup1 5 August 2020 20: 40
    0
    There are no words ... how many years the first is not ... but everyone is trying about their uniqueness. Let's wait a little longer and write off. Everything turns into a cut ... which is a pity
  12. Fast_mutant
    Fast_mutant 6 August 2020 02: 42
    -1
    Quote: Ilshat
    It is the receivers

    There was such a topic. I will say more that when the receiver is on a car shit, then, passing by such a car, its receiver loses its frequency. By the way, I have a pretty good head unit, and then, it happens occasionally, "knocks" her shitty local oscillator of a neighbor.