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RSC Energia reported on the creation of the Kupol space observation system

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RSC Energia reported on the creation of the Kupol space observation system

The unified space system "Kupol" for controlling the launches of ballistic missiles has been brought to the minimum staffing level. This was stated by Igor Ozar, General Director of the Rocket and Space Corporation (RSC) Energia.


According to the director general, the Kupol space system was created in the interests of the Ministry of Defense to control the launch of ballistic missiles from the territory of the United States and its allies. The Kupol also replaced the Soviet Oko space system, which was capable of detecting the launch of an ICBM, but could not determine the parameters of its ballistic trajectory. The new system has no such disadvantages.

The launch of the fourth Tundra spacecraft brought the Kupol Unified Space System to its standard minimum composition

- he said, adding that the fourth satellite "Tundra" was launched into orbit on May 22 this year.

At the moment, the Kupol includes four Tundra satellites, united into a single space system. Their task is to monitor the "continental territories and waters of the world's oceans" in the event of a ballistic missile launch at Russia or its allies. The satellites rotate in orbit along a highly elliptical trajectory, moving as far as possible from the planet's surface by more than 35 thousand kilometers.

The Tundra spacecraft are capable of tracking rocket launches using the latest infrared observation devices installed on satellites. They can accurately determine the moment of launching a rocket against the background of the earth's surface. These instruments also track the trajectory of the flight and automatically calculate the estimated drop location of the missile warheads.
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  1. slipped
    slipped 5 August 2020 14: 08
    12
    RSC Energia is also making devices for this system. Take off in turn.
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 5 August 2020 14: 17
      +2
      I wonder if the characteristics will be enough to detect the launches of anti-aircraft missiles, like SBIRS, in order to also be able to quickly tell where the next airliner was shot down from.
      1. slipped
        slipped 5 August 2020 14: 31
        +6
        Quote: military_cat
        I wonder if the characteristics are enough to detect the launches of anti-aircraft missiles,


        Who is interested in this? laughing those who need it are aware, and the rest do not need to know.
      2. orionvitt
        orionvitt 5 August 2020 17: 35
        +2
        Quote: military_cat
        in order to also be able to quickly tell where the next liner came from.

        Conventional ground-based radars do just fine with these tasks. Correctly writes Comrade. slipped, that if someone is not interested in the truth, then it is not voiced, although everyone knows.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 5 August 2020 20: 03
          0
          It seems to me that this is a question of saturation of such satellites over "interesting" regions + brain power for processing such an array of data.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 5 August 2020 14: 30
      +7
      The first three Tundra satellites were launched in 2015, 2017 and 2019. Well, we've got the kit!
  2. Kart
    Kart 5 August 2020 14: 28
    12
    Can not be!!!!!
    After all, everyone knows that there is no more space in Russia, and greedy oligarchs have stolen everything.
    1. Rubi0
      Rubi0 5 August 2020 14: 35
      -19 qualifying.
      It is more interesting when the Russian Federation will finally start earning from military and space technologies, the Glonass atoms are there, the Dome is, but earning like Musk on StarLink from investments and advertising on the free Internet is not. It seems like there is a program to diversify the military-industrial complex into civilian products, well, screw the 5G module to the satellites and take a monthly fee every month
      1. Kart
        Kart 5 August 2020 14: 40
        11
        Well, most don't have that either.
        And Musk is the only one with the American dough behind him. You can't argue that they are much richer than us.
        1. Ilshat
          Ilshat 5 August 2020 14: 49
          -24 qualifying.
          Musk spent several times less on everything than we did at the Vostochny cosmodrome.
          1. DMB_95
            DMB_95 5 August 2020 15: 10
            15
            Are you aware of the expenditures from the closed budget items of the Pentagon and the CIA ??
            1. Ilshat
              Ilshat 5 August 2020 15: 12
              -19 qualifying.
              I am aware that this is a "Boeing", etc.
              There is reliable public data on Musk.
              1. DMB_95
                DMB_95 5 August 2020 15: 15
                17
                And I am aware that Boeing has long been under the CIA and the Pentagon. And Musk is there.
                1. Ilshat
                  Ilshat 5 August 2020 15: 19
                  -17 qualifying.
                  And what?
                  What is it for?
                  What is the difference with the shaitan?
                  On Falcon 9 and Dragon, he received ~ $ 400 million in 40 stages.
                  And give a damn about the CIA and the rest of the riffraff!
                  1. DMB_95
                    DMB_95 5 August 2020 15: 22
                    +8
                    And I don't give a damn about the CIA and the rest of the ragtag!
                    So do I . "Shushera" is Musk, isn't it?
                    1. Ilshat
                      Ilshat 5 August 2020 15: 24
                      -7
                      Why not?
                      I don't respect Americans, so I agree!
                      But - economical riffraff!
          2. Fungus
            Fungus 5 August 2020 15: 29
            +7
            Everything is classified there. Musk is a NASA subsidiary. They spend much more money than we do.
            1. Ilshat
              Ilshat 5 August 2020 15: 29
              -8
              Is there a link?
            2. snake
              snake 5 August 2020 17: 22
              -3
              Quote: Fungus
              Everything is classified there. Musk is a NASA subsidiary. They spend much more money than we do.

              If "everything is classified", then how do you know, Fungus? You are either a liar or a representative of the American intelligence services. Although ... what kind of representative is there ...
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 5 August 2020 15: 05
        +7
        Musk dumped by some means and is squeezing us out of the market. What kind of income is there if Musk is driving cargo into space several times lower than the cost?
        1. Ilshat
          Ilshat 5 August 2020 15: 13
          -14 qualifying.
          But he built the cosmodrome for ~ $ 100 million.
          And ours allocated 91 billion for Vostochny, 11 of which were stolen, according to Peskov.

          PS: there are hundreds of criminal cases, so 11 billion is probably not the final figure.
          1. Free wind
            Free wind 5 August 2020 15: 51
            -2
            Well, then everything is in business. Vorye, officials, inspectors, the investigative committee, the prosecutor's office, the police, employees of the detention center. The workers of the colonies are not yet in business, they may fly by. In short, work for thousands of employees. And not just some smelly builders.
            1. slipped
              slipped 5 August 2020 20: 59
              +4
              Quote: Free Wind
              The workers of the colonies are not yet in business, they may fly by.


              Those who had to sit down, sat down. And in general, everything that was not completed in the first place is already being completed there - mainly residential buildings in Tsiolkovsky, housing and communal services structures, roads, storage facilities. Everything is good with the second stage, they work, build and quickly.
        2. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 5 August 2020 19: 47
          0
          Quote: Mikhail3
          Musk dumped by some means and is squeezing us out of the market.

          and in what place squeezes out of the market, do not tell me? Musk has neither launched foreign satellites, nor does it. sitting on American launches and even Russia could not squeeze them out. request
      3. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 5 August 2020 15: 12
        +5
        I also offer the Ministry of Defense to earn money. The next time an ICBM is launched, collect money from partners for the fact that the Russian Ministry of Defense will not drop a missile on their territory. What offer is this and the answer. wassat
      4. Free wind
        Free wind 5 August 2020 15: 46
        -1
        They have been making money for a long time, or rather the grandmother, they cut their hair from all of us. Glonas sensors are already being installed in public toilets in toilets in cities. To monitor the utilization rate. The sensors are inserted into the wipers before going to work. One for the broom, one for the ass. One step of the janitor should have 4 zips with a broom. wassat Laughter, of course, laughter, but the glonasses are handed out to the wipers before work. The simplest device for a car, without screens, without sensors, a box is slightly larger than a matchbox, and a power wire and an antenna. 12 thousand. The subscription fee is 1500 per month, but we had MTS SIM cards for Glonas, it was 3 years ago. Now I don't know how long.
        1. Ilshat
          Ilshat 5 August 2020 16: 10
          -2
          Quote: Free Wind
          Subscription fee 1500 per month

          This is something!
          Deal with similar equipment - 450 rubles. per car per month, terminal galileo sky.
      5. Rubi0
        Rubi0 5 August 2020 22: 35
        -1
        From strange people, they threw cons for the offer to make money. And then they wonder why there were no microwave ovens and dishwashers in the USSR. Everyone is dreaming of ships of the first rank and 100500 thousand tanks, no, I understand that this is a military forum, but how dearly it was sawed on needles for a tape recorder and chewing gum, we have already passed
    2. Not_invented
      Not_invented 5 August 2020 15: 56
      0
      Please do not confuse launches in the interests of the Ministry of Defense - state budget expenditures and launches in the interests of a foreign or private customer - state budget revenues.
      Our space will never completely die, because overseas friends need to be watched, rockets need to be guided, other people's satellites need to be shot down. But all this does not bring the country money that can be invested in further development.
      And commercial projects are in our w * n. Because the entire west will now launch people on Musk's rockets, so Roscosmos will not receive any profit. The purchases of RD-180 within 2-3 years will stop completely, Musk has already squeezed out unmanned launches. Therefore, cosmonautics, which could have been a gold mine for Roscosmos, is becoming another item of budget expenditures. This is the problem.
      1. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 5 August 2020 19: 40
        +1
        First let Musk fly at least a fifth of the number of launches of Progress and Unions without losses, then we can talk about "squeezed out"
        It's not evening yet, rocketry, it's like that, rocketry ...
      2. slipped
        slipped 5 August 2020 20: 35
        +5
        Quote: Not_invented
        And commercial projects are in our w * n.


        Well why laughing we sell data transmission services and space photos of the Earth, the share from the sale of various space "hardware" is also quite good - we sell domestic plasma stationary engines and loop antennas for electric satellites and other western satellites. Russian private traders have also pulled themselves up - they are selling ready-made platforms of the 3U and 6U factor - they even opened an online store for sale laughing

        Quote: Not_invented
        Because the entire west will now launch people on Musk's rockets, so Roscosmos will not receive any profit.


        Mriyi bloom and smell. laughing We have launches of foreign spacecraft in autumn. laughing

        Quote: Not_invented
        The purchases of RD-180 within 2-3 years will stop completely,


        Not purchases, but deliveries to the USA. Everything has already been paid for. And purchases will continue - for domestic missiles.

        Quote: Not_invented
        Therefore, cosmonautics, which could have been a gold mine for Roscosmos, is becoming another item of budget expenditures. This is the problem.


        Off-budget revenues are only growing from year to year. laughing
      3. Rubi0
        Rubi0 5 August 2020 22: 41
        -2
        Why can't I be confused, I still do not understand, it seems like it launches Rosskosmos and let them go to self-reliance. Why private traders are not allowed to the cosmodrome is also not clear, okay Plesetsk is the Ministry of Defense, but what about Vostochny? Musk launches from the cape and the Pentagon somehow does not sway
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 5 August 2020 23: 47
          +2
          Quote: Rubi0
          Why private traders are not allowed to the cosmodrome is also not clear

          Do we have them, private traders? Lined up at the cosmodrome? The Yankes don't have a lot of this either. The mask can be called a private trader at a stretch.
          1. Rubi0
            Rubi0 6 August 2020 00: 08
            -2
            Of course there is, especially in the class of light rockets. You can read from Pavel Pushkin how they are trying to build their own cosmodrome in Kosmokurs, and how many bureaucratic obstacles, because no one gave it before, and in general space is completely occupied by government agencies
    3. Imperial Technocrat
      Imperial Technocrat 6 August 2020 20: 38
      0
      In terms of the size of the satellite constellation, we are second only to the United States. And in recent years have updated it by 80%
  3. Ilshat
    Ilshat 5 August 2020 14: 29
    -2
    Can someone explain what the choice of a highly elliptical trajectory is related to?
    1. slipped
      slipped 5 August 2020 14: 34
      +6
      Quote: Ilshat
      Can someone explain what the choice of a highly elliptical trajectory is related to?


      "According to Kepler's laws, satellites using high elliptical orbits move at a very high speed at perigee, and then slow down strongly at apogee. When the spacecraft is near the apogee, the ground observer has the impression that the satellite has hardly moved for several hours, that is its orbit becomes quasi-geostationary. "

      In a low orbit, you can catch hr..n, but in a high orbit, you can easily track everything with sensors. laughing
      1. Ilshat
        Ilshat 5 August 2020 14: 44
        -1
        I am aware of ballistics ...
        But, the further away the satellite is, the more difficult it is to notice the source of infrared radiation.
        Unclear.
  4. Eldorado
    Eldorado 5 August 2020 14: 31
    +7
    Keep it up! good
  5. Narcologist
    Narcologist 5 August 2020 15: 05
    -3
    The satellites rotate in orbit along a highly elliptical trajectory, moving as far as possible from the planet's surface by more than 35 thousand kilometers.

    Wow .. And there is definitely no mistake? This is the first time I hear about such an orbit. If so, is it practically impossible to shoot them down?
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    2. Ilshat
      Ilshat 5 August 2020 16: 16
      -3
      Why not - at perigee you can ...
      1. slipped
        slipped 5 August 2020 20: 48
        +1
        Quote: Ilshat
        Why not - at perigee you can ...


        in Antarctica, put anti-aircraft guns? laughing
        1. Ilshat
          Ilshat 5 August 2020 20: 50
          -1
          Perigee can be anywhere.
          Not anti-aircraft guns, but something like Dong Neng-3
          1. slipped
            slipped 5 August 2020 20: 51
            +1
            Quote: Ilshat
            Perigee can be anywhere.
            Not anti-aircraft guns, but something like Dong Neng-3


            Will not catch up with your Dong Neng at perigee. The burden is not enough.
            1. Ilshat
              Ilshat 5 August 2020 20: 53
              -1
              Counter-main mode for anti-missile and anti-satellite systems.
              Precisely because not to catch up.
              1. slipped
                slipped 5 August 2020 20: 55
                0
                Quote: Ilshat
                Counter-main mode for anti-missile and anti-satellite systems.


                Jump over laughing
  6. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 5 August 2020 20: 29
    -3
    Here at 18m a meteor at 6 Hiroshima zhahnul off the coast of the Far East. Unnoticed by Russia.

    I wonder if the Dome would have noticed now?
    1. slipped
      slipped 5 August 2020 20: 54
      +3
      Quote: Alex2000
      I wonder if the Dome would have noticed now?


      CEN satellites look at the Earth, not into space.
      1. Aleks2000
        Aleks2000 5 August 2020 21: 02
        -1
        Not that. not that.
        It flashed near the ground, and not in space ...
        1. slipped
          slipped 5 August 2020 21: 03
          +2
          Quote: Alex2000
          Not that. not that.
          It flashed near the ground, and not in space ...


          when it starts to blow - it's too late to do something laughing
          1. Aleks2000
            Aleks2000 5 August 2020 21: 06
            0
            It's almost never too late to learn something new (if it doesn't suit you))))
            Distracted, however ...
            1. slipped
              slipped 5 August 2020 21: 07
              0
              Quote: Alex2000
              Distracted, however ...


              We have a network of robotic telescopes MASTER - just in order to see in advance.

              1. Aleks2000
                Aleks2000 5 August 2020 21: 09
                -1
                That is, but then they did not see nifig ...
  7. Old26
    Old26 6 August 2020 18: 28
    +1
    Quote: slipped
    Quote: Ilshat
    Why not - at perigee you can ...


    in Antarctica, put anti-aircraft guns? laughing

    And the calculations of these anti-aircraft guns from the penguins. Separate penguin anti-aircraft division laughing

    Quote: Ilshat
    Perigee can be anywhere.

    In any? Well, try to place a highly elliptical orbit so that the overflow is not in the region of the Southern continent?