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Doctor Delyagin's diagnosis. Has the disaster already happened?

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Doctor Delyagin's diagnosis. Has the disaster already happened?

Save who can



Few people today do not know Mikhail Delyagin, director of the Institute for Globalization Problems and also one of the duty critics of the government's economic bloc. In terms of the harshness of his assessments, he is noticeably inferior to Nikolai Platoshkin, and by definition he cannot be imprisoned like that.

Doctors of sciences and professors can hardly be called a supporter of the conspiracy theory or a "catastrophic" like Mikhail Khazin and Valentin Katasonov. They simply predict us both "black August" and the banking crisis in October. Doctor Delyagin also decided to start his August theses with a conversation about a catastrophe that is not coming, but has already happened. That is, not from the prognosis, but from the diagnosis.


However, the most catchy of Mikhail Delyagin's theses was put into the title by our colleagues from the Regnum.ru agency (“The catastrophe has already happened. But not everyone has noticed it yet ")... And he was immediately picked up by the omnivorous Yandex.Zen. However, a globalist, or rather, a convinced professional anti-globalist, chose the reason for such global conclusions clearly not the most suitable one.

Indeed, in this comment, he speaks almost exclusively of the denunciation of the notorious agreement with Cyprus on the avoidance of double taxation. It seemed that it could be more correct in the days of the crisis, as a real attempt to block the channel for withdrawing funds, perhaps the largest one?

Yes, the popular opposition economist recognized such a step as quite justified and did not even begin to dispute the fact that large amounts of capital were being transferred from Russia to Cyprus. Well, Mikhail Delyagin did not like, in his own words, only one thing: that the process of returning billions, which has been going on for many years, could be delayed. Also for years.

But what about the economic disaster? The professor said about it casually, in context, as if there was nothing unusual in this and, it seems, nothing terrible. Judge for yourself:

"Since we are now not experiencing an economic crisis, but an economic catastrophe (just not everyone notices it), the state decided to close the channel for withdrawing funds."

However, let's pay tribute to Delyagin. He talks and writes a lot about crises and how to get out of them. One of the first doctors of sciences began to write about the catastrophic consequences of the pandemic and the harsh measures taken allegedly to combat it.

Already in June, he identified the main budgetary problems, first of all, "a catastrophic contraction of federal budget revenues in May due to the destruction of the economy, arranged by the authorities under the guise of coronabesy" ( Budget disaster - the first fruit of the coronabesia).

At the same time, Delyagin did not offer, but literally demanded that the authorities abandon the policy of "budget stinginess". He pointed out that, "despite the reduction in budgetary reserves, they remain more than sufficient" to address the main tasks of fighting the crisis, and not just to balance the budget.

The economist was not only embarrassed, but outraged by the absence in budget reports of any data on the fall in GDP during the crisis months. He called this approach politically motivated, which was quite justified on the eve of the unforgettable day of July 1.

According to Delyagin, "the liberal accountants who have seized power are not able to perceive not only the tasks facing society and its real possibilities, but, it seems, the reality itself as such." Having noted this, the economist even then sadly admitted that he was driven into a stupor by the readiness of the authorities to give everyone a primitive signal: "Save yourself who can."

And who can't?


The grave consequences of the "heroic struggle" for the health of the nation have already begun, here you cannot argue with Deryagin either. Although not the most difficult ones yet. In his next commentary, the economist assessed the state of the Russian economy in such a way that, in short, it boils down to the formula: "The patient is rather dead."

Today, hardly anyone seriously expects that economic problems in Russia will resolve on their own. Despite some recovery after the removal of most senseless restrictions, almost all small and medium-sized businesses have minimal chances of rebirth.

Unless, of course, he will be given tax holidays. This, of course, threatens to further reduce budget revenues, but it seems that it will have to be saved in other ways. Including repatriation of funds from offshore, which so embarrassed Mikhail Delyagin, stopping the pumping of budget money to oligarchic structures, clearing non-payments and putting things in order in the currency sphere.

All this has already happened. It was in 1998 and 1999 after the default, which, by and large, is not entirely correct to call it that. After all, the government of Yevgeny Primakov and Yuri Maslyukov, together with the Central Bank and Viktor Gerashchenko (the "big three"), did not write off all Russia's debts at that time, but only closed the shop called the "pyramid of GKO and OFZ".


For those who have forgotten, recall: these are government short-term bonds and federal loan bonds. Let us follow in the footsteps of the Big Three, and then it will not be so scary that “half of the business that opened after the pandemic is the“ living dead ””. This is also a quote from Mikhail Delyagin, who is sure that all of them will not live to see the end of the year.

There is a diagnosis, recipes are needed


In the meantime, they are hiding something from us again. They fool around with dubious unemployment figures, declare some kind of unthinkable average salary for the outback, as much as 35 thousand rubles. And the Ministry of Finance stubbornly continues not to publish data on the fall in GDP. In the United States, they were not at all ashamed of the fact that things were going worse than during the Great Depression: a decline by almost a third, but we were ashamed of something.

As if we never had, and much worse. The 90s alone are worth what, not to mention the default and the ruble pits of 2008 and 2014. However, probably, the Ministry of Finance has simply forgotten how to count, and everything is bad with the basis for calculations. Too many simply do not want to report now.

The same Mikhail Delyagin is upset by the fact that almost no one has noticed the crisis that has already happened. But maybe this is good, and many citizens, with their faith in infallible power, will finally stop relying only on support from above?

But, by and large, all the crises that brought our economy to the position of a semi-colonial raw materials appendage of the West happened much earlier than the coronavirus one. And an experienced economist knows this very well, and has written and said about it many times.

Or Delyagin does not understand that it is not the large economy that is destroyed by the coronavirus, of which there is little left in Russia at all, but the economy that has grown literally on a vacant lot. And she grew up not because of, but in spite of. The economy of services and the economy of services - the state apparatus and oligarchic structures, which for many years have grown together with this apparatus stronger than the Siamese twins.

To the powers that be, and by no means only in Russia, this kind of economy clearly seemed too free. And let the author be accused of adherence to conspiracy theory. If COVID-19 hadn't existed, someone would definitely have to invent it.

Once upon a time, even during the unbroken Soviet Union, many people willingly wrote out market recipes to us: Gaidar, and Shmelev, and Bunich, and Travkin. They wrote it out from the pages of the Perestroika Ogonyok and thick magazines, and, of course, from TV screens. What recipes should replace the “iron hand of the market”, “shock therapy” and privatization? This is best known to professionals like Mikhail Delyagin.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 7 August 2020 15: 08 New
    -37
    Doctor Delyagin's diagnosis. Has the disaster already happened?
    Recently, Dr. Delyagin is doing badly. Maybe not go to him? request
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 7 August 2020 15: 23 New
      58
      Mauritius - Doctor Delyagin is doing well, it is bad for our economy, which he has already spoken about for a long time, but he was not listened to or heard in the Kremlin!
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 7 August 2020 15: 51 New
        -51
        The Russian economy, despite the presence of a decent bouquet of problems - everything is more or less normal, whatever one may say, we remain the world's 11th economy in terms of GDP.
        1. snucerist
          snucerist 7 August 2020 18: 04 New
          13
          Are there grounds for optimism? Oh well...
          A pandemic can, of course, be called coronabesy, but that won't make it any easier. The growth of cases and the number of deaths from the virus worldwide is taking giant strides. The situation around Russia is not easy. Ukrainian - just threatening, judging by the statistics of the last week. There is reason to believe that it is not better in Belarus either, the statistic is simply hushed up before the elections.
          There are no positive prospects in the economy. Moreover, these prospects are far from bright.
          Finanz.ru and some other sources report quite disappointing news. There is information that the Saudis (in particular the Saudi Aramco company) will again reduce the price of oil. A batch of light Saudi oil will fall in price for Europe by $ 2,5-2,8 since September.
          Saudi Aramco Arab Light, an analogue of the Russian Urals, will drop in price by $ 2,5 by August. The discount to the price of Brent will be $ 1,8 per barrel. Prices for Arab Extra Light will drop by $ 2,8, discount to Brent will be $ 1,3.
          In Asia, the entire Saudi oil line will fall in price up to heavy grades Arab Medium and Arab Heavy.
          Following the Saudis, prices will be reduced by the UAE. In particular, the state-owned company ADNOC.
          This is all despite the fact that oil production is increasing. The UAE, Kuwait and the Saudis have already dumped an additional 1 million barrels of daily supplies onto the market in July.
          This is all against the backdrop that the pandemic is expanding, quarantine measures will be tightened, and the economy will fall accordingly.
          India and China have already slashed purchases. According to forecasts, by the end of August, world production will exceed demand by 700 barrels per day, and in September - by 000 (this is, for a minute, a supertanker).
          Gazprom has a bunch of problems of its own, where effective managers are slowly finishing off the industry.
          In September, children will go to schools, students will attend lectures. Will it reduce the incidence of corona? Or vice versa?
          The inevitable strengthening of quarantine measures will drive up medium and small businesses.
          So how - are there grounds for optimism?
          1. The Word of the Word
            The Word of the Word 7 August 2020 18: 38 New
            -22
            You are either a conscientious misinformer. Saudi Aramco Arab Light is not at all an analogue of Urals
            http://geoenergetics.ru/2020/03/31/realnaya-neft-mnogoobraznee-birzhevoj/
            We already heard about the victory of the Saudis over the Kremlin in April)))
            In a global crisis, EVERYTHING will fall. The one who falls the least will be in a better position. And this will be Russia, because it is the closest thing to autarchy.
            1. snucerist
              snucerist 7 August 2020 19: 49 New
              21
              Are we going to play ping-pong with links, or do we admit that the characteristics of varieties in terms of API density and sulfur content are approximately comparable?
              Are the details so important?
              The important thing is that the price of oil will fall across the entire range of grades. And the production will grow. Which will lead to an even greater price reduction. For the imbalance between production and demand will grow.
              That's what's important. This is the point.
              The Saudis are not interested in a victory over the Kremlin today. They are somehow purple that there is in the Kremlin. They are solving their urgent tasks today. If analysts have given a far from rosy forecast for the world economy, then it is clear that we must act now and immediately. Reduce price and increase production. No OPEC will regulate anything. For force majeure is coming.
              As for autarky ... Yes, you at least walk around your apartment. Take a closer look at the labels / nameplates on household appliances. Where is your refrigerator made? TV? Computer? Smartphone? Hob with extractor hood? Washer? Boiler? Mixer? Food processor? Microwave? The tablet? Iron in the end?
              Can this be called self-sufficiency? Self-sufficiency?
              Yes, without imports, problems will begin with toilet paper.
              Alas, such a model of the economy has developed in the Russian Federation. Drill holes in the ground, drive hydrocarbons to the West, get currency, buy everything you need in the West for this currency.
              1. The Word of the Word
                The Word of the Word 7 August 2020 20: 33 New
                -6
                All refineries in the world are sharpened for certain types of oil. Reconfiguring them is expensive, difficult and time-consuming, so the demand for Urals does not fall, despite the dumping of the Saudis. Of course, their victory over the Kremlin is not interested)). They should somehow save their kingdom. And the Kremlin cynically grins selling Urals at the US Gulf of Mexico refinery replacing the retired Venezuelan oil and at the same time drives Venezuelan oil to India to its refineries. Be offended!)))
                Walk around the world for a look. German cars are 75-80% composed of Chinese units, Boeings and Airbushes do not fly without Russian titanium parts, Swiss watches with Russian glass from Monocrystal, American nuclear power plants run on fuel from Rosatom, and you tell me about toilet paper ... like a rally bullshit leave it for clip thinking hamsters.
                1. Doliva63
                  Doliva63 8 August 2020 21: 37 New
                  +3
                  "German cars consist of 75-80% of Chinese units"
                  Here I have a German car, for 7 years of use I have not found a single Chinese unit, only Polish ones - wheels and an interior fan. Over time, he himself added to them a Spanish timing chain and pads, for German is unrealistically expensive - have you seen brushes for "windshield wipers" for 2 where have you seen a thread, for example? laughing Opel, if that.
            2. UserGun
              UserGun 7 August 2020 23: 50 New
              0
              Quote: Word Rule
              Saudi Aramco Arab Light is not an analogue of Urals at all


              So what ?! For example, I would argue with BP's share in the same price of your Urals, but BP is dumping from production and processing towards "green" energy. In the course of what this will lead to ?! This is for a long time for the Russian Federation, if not forever. The world is moving away from toxic hydrocarbons with the unpredictable behavior of individual producers who have staged a show out of nothing because of their ambitions (hello OPEC!), Which will also not be worth n-and-w-e-y-o soon. As well as it is not worth now n-and-w-e-g-about a loud bunch about how "hydrocarbons cannot be cheap" (c) V.V. Putin is not so long ago.
              1. The Word of the Word
                The Word of the Word 8 August 2020 00: 28 New
                -2
                Treat your green fantasies to Greta's hamsters. It can and will make an impression on them, but not on a sane person.
                1. UserGun
                  UserGun 8 August 2020 00: 39 New
                  +6
                  Huh! It's nothing that your nemesis BP controls 20% of Rosneft - at the moment, the basis of a more or less gross inflow of Russian currency ?! "Our FSE" gazmeat in debt, daibokh somehow swim out on their own citizens, robbing them)))
                  1. The Word of the Word
                    The Word of the Word 8 August 2020 00: 46 New
                    -9
                    Nothing, therefore Rosneft is not under sanctions) It is important that the company is under full control of the state.
                    1. UserGun
                      UserGun 8 August 2020 00: 48 New
                      +3
                      Stop, but this 20 percent is becoming ghostly ...))) Like the "Turkish Stream"! ))) It seems to be there, with orchestras and other physical education, but it seems to be not real)))
                      1. The Word of the Word
                        The Word of the Word 8 August 2020 00: 54 New
                        -5
                        What does ghostly mean? Are you able to clearly express your thought ??
                      2. UserGun
                        UserGun 8 August 2020 01: 02 New
                        +1
                        I corrected it above)))

                        Quote: UserGun
                        Like Turkish Stream! ))) It seems to be there, with orchestras and other physical education, but it seems to be not real)))


                        We ate to explain to you on your fingers, according to your feeble mind, then if BP leaves, even under a completely noble pretext, not wanting to spoil nature, but in fact not seeing any special profits for itself, then automatically for Rosneft, the sales force and most importantly - kerdyk to the treasury for lost profits)))
                      3. The Word of the Word
                        The Word of the Word 8 August 2020 01: 08 New
                        +5
                        How will your imagined withdrawal of BP from the shareholding structure affect Rosneft's profits? Are you on your renewable energy sources finally set off with your mind into the transcendental "green" distance?)
                      4. UserGun
                        UserGun 8 August 2020 01: 18 New
                        +1
                        That's how. No, well, of course, the laws of the world economy are not written for a "separate civilization"))), but nevertheless they work. And they bring success if you at least listen to them. Wangyu, then in the fall we will have a lot of surprises, unfortunately not in favor of the Russian Federation. Sooner or later you have to answer for your show-off. Vaughn Lukashenko is already answering, and he is essentially a cast of the local king. With incomparably fewer resources, but almost an absolute copy.
                      5. The Word of the Word
                        The Word of the Word 8 August 2020 07: 33 New
                        +1
                        The laws of the world economy state that RES without subsidies are not a competitor to hydrocarbons, but Greta's green hamsters do not know them. Smart people analyze world processes, but wang). I ask you not to tire me with your nonsense anymore.
          2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 8 August 2020 15: 22 New
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            Quote: UserGun
            BP controls 20% of Rosneft

            And the state in the spring simply took and refused the controlling stake in this corporation
      2. blackice
        blackice 8 August 2020 08: 19 New
        +2
        What is green energy?
        To put a windmill that is not made in a "green" production, which will then ruin a bunch of birds and drive away all living creatures by vibration?
        Make everyone buy green electric cars? But what about their production, especially batteries? But what about the disposal of these batteries later?
        A less green energy is a fire in a cave.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 9 August 2020 16: 05 New
          0
          Quote: blackice
          A less green energy is a fire in a cave.

          caves you can't fill wassat firewood all the more ... I think the greenest economy is hydroelectric power plants.
          1. blackice
            blackice 10 August 2020 01: 16 New
            0
            But what about the fish?
            And the production of all the filling of the power plant? Yes, concrete itself? And the flooding of territories?
            No, the greenest economy is the hit man. laughing
        2. Siberian54
          Siberian54 14 August 2020 13: 32 New
          0
          rather, solar panels in arid, desert places, heating and photocells ... the rest is the removal of dirt from city to village. We really have the southern coast of the ocean with more than 300 windy or stormy days and densely populated, if you do not take the Norilsk industrial and domestic center about half a person per 10 square kilometers and only lemmings can be scared off there, the only thing is that we are the largest country on the planet and energy transportation is a problem.
  2. DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 7 August 2020 22: 47 New
    +5
    Quote: snucerist
    Are there grounds for optimism? Oh well...
    A pandemic can, of course, be called coronabesy, but that won't make it any easier. The growth of cases and the number of deaths from the virus worldwide is taking giant strides.




    So what diseases should you fight first?
    What departments are currently operating in hospitals?
    Where to go to ALL other "non-core patients"?
    Get well urgently? So they were all already crucified to die at home. People pay big bucks to doctors to bring (illegally) a sick relative for the night on a drip or for injections.
    And is it taking care of people? About the sick?
    With the inclusion of coronavirus at the click of the fingers, all the other millions of patients recovered at once ...
    "Accident? I don't think ..." (c)
    1. your1970
      your1970 8 August 2020 12: 52 New
      +4
      Quote: DED_peer_DED
      With the inclusion of coronabesy

      I had the crown ... A month ago ...
      I had high temperatures before (up to +40) - but I fainted for the first time at + 38,2. Such a wild weakness ...
      And now, for a month now, weakness and fatigue from even the slightest load ... Even if I just bend down several times in a row ...
      Common like bronchitis, not even pneumonia - like a wife's
      What will happen next - I don't know

      So that you be careful tryndite about the virus ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 8 August 2020 14: 04 New
        0
        Quote: your1970
        So you are more careful about the virus trynd.

        I had it at the beginning of the year, and I know people who had it in the fall. Symptoms are one to one. And the official propaganda announces completely different distribution dates. wink
        PS Weakness is really exhausting. There is really no strength. For over half a year.
  3. Artyom Volgin
    Artyom Volgin 7 August 2020 23: 33 New
    15
    Quote: snucerist
    Are there grounds for optimism?

    What optimism can there be when our economy is in an endless spiral of crisis?
    1. blackice
      blackice 8 August 2020 08: 23 New
      +6
      The main thing is to call these rounds of the crisis stability. hi
  4. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 9 August 2020 15: 49 New
    +2
    Quote: snucerist
    The growth of cases and the number of deaths from the virus worldwide is taking giant strides.

    but what are they gigantic? Do you know the anecdote? - doctor how best to treat coronavirus? - I am not involved in politics. smile
    Of all the cases of severe coronavirus infection known to me, no one has received the most effective remedy - blood serum from people who have been ill. Moreover, a familiar pulmonologist directly said that he was not completely free in the choice of means. In addition, WHO has intensively introduced the use of prostaglandins (hormones that lower immunity). These facts indicate that there are some who are interested in mortality from Covid and our government is dancing to this tune.
    The Greek crisis is a court, therefore it is incorrect to call a protracted economic catastrophe a crisis; its end with a change in course, power, war or a transition to another economic model should become a crisis ...
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 7 August 2020 18: 22 New
    -18
    Quote: Vadim237
    The Russian economy, despite the presence of a decent bouquet of problems - everything is more or less normal, whatever one may say, we remain the 11th economy in the world by GDP

    Something the children writhe and paralysis beats (-), can they sprinkle holy water? .....
    1. Artyom Volgin
      Artyom Volgin 7 August 2020 23: 33 New
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      Quote: Mavrikiy
      can sprinkle holy water?

      You can sprinkle it with holy water. Only the economy of our country will not be able to withdraw by the means that our "economists and financiers" are trying to use.
  • Artyom Volgin
    Artyom Volgin 7 August 2020 23: 32 New
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    Quote: Vadim237
    remain 11th economy in the world by GDP

    GDP is outdated worse than a steam engine.
    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 8 August 2020 15: 26 New
      -5
      Quote: Artem Volgin
      GDP is outdated

      He's not that old - only 67 years old. It's not age.
  • Siberian54
    Siberian54 14 August 2020 13: 19 New
    0
    I live near the railway station on the branch, only ore minibuses are left to walk, all twelve siding tracks (somewhere around 35-40 kilometers) are crammed with sludge wagons ... even in 1998 this was not ... And so everything is normal ... availability, two stores switched from food to beer.
  • Vladimir B.
    Vladimir B. 7 August 2020 15: 58 New
    30
    Quote: Thrifty
    our economy is bad

    The International Monetary Fund expects the fall of the Russian economy by 6,6%, the World Bank - by 6%, the Central Bank predicts a decrease in Russian GDP in the range of 4-5%, the Stolypin Institute to 5%. https://tass.ru/ekonomika/5?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
    I think next year our economy will be worse than now.
    1. The Word of the Word
      The Word of the Word 7 August 2020 18: 27 New
      -23
      Next year, Russia will be the 5th largest economy in the world in terms of PPP GDP.
      1. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 7 August 2020 22: 55 New
        15
        Quote: Word Rule
        Next year, Russia will be the 5th largest economy in the world in terms of PPP GDP.

        From the end ?
        1. The Word of the Word
          The Word of the Word 7 August 2020 23: 01 New
          -12
          For hamsters, it can be anywhere in their fevered imagination, but for the IMF and WB at first.
          1. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 7 August 2020 23: 09 New
            +5
            Quote: Word Rule
            but for the IMF and the World Bank first.

            And ... I forgot about these "our friends" - "our authorities". I confess.
      2. Artyom Volgin
        Artyom Volgin 7 August 2020 23: 33 New
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        Quote: Freedom of the Word
        Next year, Russia will be the 5th largest economy in the world in terms of PPP GDP.

        These are just virtual dreams. The reality is that the recovery of our economy, without serious and radical changes, is impossible.
        1. The Word of the Word
          The Word of the Word 8 August 2020 00: 20 New
          -10
          This is a real mathematical alignment at the level of the 8th grade) Changes are coming and not to notice them ... you have to be blind or blinkered.
      3. Mikhail Ya2
        Mikhail Ya2 8 August 2020 09: 40 New
        0
        Can you stake your annual salary on this? wink
        1. The Word of the Word
          The Word of the Word 8 August 2020 10: 51 New
          -1
          Tell me which bookmaker office accepts bets on this event and I will bet. I will even deduct% to you later in gratitude.
  • seacap
    seacap 7 August 2020 16: 22 New
    22
    As well as Glazyev, who was generally boycotted at the request of the head of the Central Bank and her hubby, the rector of the HSE.
    1. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 7 August 2020 18: 22 New
      +9
      Yes, this one graduated from the anti-Russian faculty in America, what to expect from the American agents whom the West threw and these cockroaches do not know where to run there are no brains, there are dumb napoleons at the top
    2. Artyom Volgin
      Artyom Volgin 7 August 2020 23: 34 New
      15
      Quote: seacap
      at the request of the head of the Central Bank and her hubby, the rector of the HSE

      These generally do not recognize anyone's point of view, except for their liberal friends from the West.
  • Artyom Volgin
    Artyom Volgin 7 August 2020 23: 32 New
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    Quote: Thrifty
    this is bad for our economy

    We are in the ashes of not only the economy, but culture and morality, education.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 7 August 2020 15: 33 New
    +9
    Which doctor is good?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 7 August 2020 15: 37 New
      15
      Quote: parusnik
      Which doctor is good?

      Apparently it is necessary to go to Kudrin ... or to Chubais .. wassat
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 7 August 2020 15: 55 New
        14
        Yes, these will lift the economy, there is experience .. smile
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 7 August 2020 15: 46 New
      -10
      Quote: parusnik
      Which doctor is good?

      At Aibolit. repeat
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 7 August 2020 15: 54 New
        11
        Aibolit will probably replace Mishustin?
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 7 August 2020 18: 29 New
          -12
          Quote: parusnik
          Aibolit will probably replace Mishustin?

          Who knows this is known.
    3. Vladimir B.
      Vladimir B. 7 August 2020 15: 59 New
      15
      Quote: parusnik
      Which doctor is good?

      Better not to get sick at all. yes
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 7 August 2020 16: 08 New
        15
        Better, but the capitalist system is sick with crises ... What kind of crisis is this ...?
        1. Vladimir B.
          Vladimir B. 7 August 2020 16: 18 New
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          Quote: parusnik
          What kind of crisis is this ...?

          On the account? But who knows ... Under capitalism, in general, we have one continuous crisis.
          1. Sen.
            Sen. 7 August 2020 21: 39 New
            12
            And the end of the crisis is not in sight. leaving one crisis, we find ourselves in another crisis.
    4. ximkim
      ximkim 7 August 2020 16: 54 New
      +1
      Does any doctor have a good before and after?
    5. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 7 August 2020 22: 58 New
      +4
      Quote: parusnik
      Which doctor is good?

      Historical sciences.
      A lot of work. With each new "tsar" history to rewrite for money, of course.
  • Artyom Volgin
    Artyom Volgin 7 August 2020 23: 31 New
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    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Maybe not go to him?

    You don't have to walk. For example, you can go to Dr. Kudrin wassat
    But the trip to Kudrin will be many times worse yes
  • paul3390
    paul3390 7 August 2020 15: 09 New
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    Another thing is surprising - how many years tens of billions left Russia through Cyprus and other offshore companies! And for 30 years everything suited everyone, they did not see any crime in this. And then suddenly, like newborn goblins - etit, men, but here it turns out they are stealing ... Well, you need it .. Why is this unexpected insight?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 7 August 2020 15: 12 New
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      Quote: paul3390
      Why is this such an unexpected insight?

      This epiphany happens regularly .. For how long Putin has been struggling with this .. probably 10 years .. as well as with gasoline prices ...
    2. Vladimir B.
      Vladimir B. 7 August 2020 16: 03 New
      33
      Closed only offshore Cyprus. Others don't. Capital holders still have somewhere to move their fortunes - Russia has 100 more agreements with other offshore companies.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 7 August 2020 16: 09 New
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        And your offshore company in Kaliningrad ... as it was announced just now
        1. depressant
          depressant 7 August 2020 16: 32 New
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          Vladimir B., did not close the Cyprus offshore. I happened to read that the closure of an offshore company is a long-term procedure. Even if the breakdown of relations occurs unilaterally. They say it will take three years. In this regard, the Minister of our Finance Siluanov decided to allow the unhindered withdrawal of capital to offshore by our oligarchs during these three years. That is, money will begin to rapidly, at an accelerated pace, leave our economy.
          And there is not only Cyprus. There are also the Nilerlands, Luxembourg and two other European offshore companies, I don’t remember which ones, but we also informed them about the termination of offshore relations. Putin was late, tragically late ...
          And I'm wondering why on earth Medvedev and his family were suddenly issued diplomatic passports? They relied on them by status, but they were not in demand, and then they suddenly needed them. This news alarmed me extremely.
          1. dzvero
            dzvero 7 August 2020 17: 22 New
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            It was not offshore companies that closed, but unilaterally canceled agreements on the avoidance of double taxation. And not only with Cyprus, but also with other zones. This cancellation will not impede the movement of capital, it is just that their owner must pay the corresponding tax to the budget of the Russian Federation at the Russian rate, and not just 1-2% offshore. How the business will react ... we'll see. An initial capital outflow (and the associated rise in the dollar / euro price) is highly likely. But against the backdrop of the crisis that began in the United States, Russia may turn out to be the very "safe haven" for escaped capital. Wait and see.
          2. New Year day
            New Year day 7 August 2020 17: 34 New
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            Quote: depressant
            Why on earth were Medvedev and his family suddenly issued diplomatic passports?

            Immunity, without control transportation of everything across the border.
            What for? Tick ​​to your beloved Italy, to the vineyards laughing
          3. dSK
            dSK 7 August 2020 17: 43 New
            +2
            Quote: depressant
            This news

            Everything is fine there:
            by item of expenditure "Support for the activities of the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation and civil servants of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation " in 2021 it is planned to increase expenses by 1,13 billion rubles - up to 25,9 billion rubles, in 2022 and 2023 expenses may grow by 1,16 billion rubles - up to 26,4 billion rubles.

            And the government is not very:
            expenses for the activities of the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, his deputies and the government apparatus in 2021-2023 may shrink. IN In 2021, expenses may decrease by 191 million rubles - up to 7,28 billion rubles, in 2022 - by 374 million rubles - up to 7,3 billion rubles, in 2023 - by 131 million rubles, up to 7,6 billion rubles.
          4. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 7 August 2020 23: 06 New
            +5
            And I'm wondering why on earth Medvedev and his family were suddenly issued diplomatic passports? They relied on them by status, but they were not in demand, and then they suddenly needed them. This news alarmed me extremely.

      2. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 7 August 2020 23: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: Vladimir B.
        Closed only offshore Cyprus. Others don't.

        The Turks and the Greeks decided to plant them on the kukan.
        Jews don't like them both wink
    3. alone
      alone 7 August 2020 17: 08 New
      +6
      Quote: paul3390
      Another thing is surprising - how many years tens of billions left Russia through Cyprus and other offshore companies! And for 30 years everything suited everyone, they did not see any crime in this. And then suddenly, like newborn goblins - etit, men, but here it turns out they are stealing ... Well, you need it .. Why is this unexpected insight?

      Yes, this is not an epiphany .. The Cyprus window for the export of capital is not the only one. I can assume that all and sundry have already begun talking about this window .. So they closed the shop so that there would be no more talk about it.
    4. Mikhail Ya2
      Mikhail Ya2 8 August 2020 09: 41 New
      +3
      Whoever needs it, knew about it in advance, and transferred his assets to other offshore companies
  • Svarog
    Svarog 7 August 2020 15: 09 New
    16
    But, by and large, all the crises that brought our economy to the position of a semi-colonial raw materials appendage of the West happened much earlier than the coronavirus one. And an experienced economist knows this very well, and has written and said about it many times.

    Naturally, just nothing ... nothing was done at all, in order not to be this raw material appendage ... Oil dollars flowed like a river and our effective managers decided that this would be forever, and if so, then let's proclaim ourselves a great energy power, but we will forget about all the other industries .. and so it happened .. And the most terrible thing of course is yet to come, because there is not a single hint that they want to change something .. the circus with horses and the Constitution should not be offered ..
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 7 August 2020 15: 12 New
      -12
      I rarely watch TV, but it turns out there is a "virtual funeral team" there.
      I thought it was just the prerogative of couch analysts / commentators.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 7 August 2020 15: 14 New
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        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        I rarely watch TV, but it turns out there is a "virtual funeral team" there.
        I thought it was just the prerogative of couch analysts / commentators.

        There are enough people among analysts who have a sensible view of what is happening.
        1. Kart
          Kart 7 August 2020 16: 00 New
          -15
          Only he is from another trench.
          His sane view is strictly against the country in which he lives.
          1. Alf
            Alf 7 August 2020 16: 17 New
            25
            Quote: Carte
            His sane view is strictly against the country in which he lives.

            Do not confuse the concepts of "country" and "power".
            1. 72jora72
              72jora72 7 August 2020 17: 06 New
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              Do not confuse the concepts of "country" and "power".

              Pay taxes and live in peace
              But every ruble is like a dead man
              With this money, people from above
              We, everyone else, are turned into dandruff.

              They carry out vague reforms
              Change the name and uniform to the traffic cops
              They throw old people through one place
              Every day checking what test we are from!
              Here is a type of democracy, in fact a kingdom
              I love my country so much ... and I hate
              State (s)
          2. Sen.
            Sen. 7 August 2020 21: 34 New
            +7
            Not true. Sound look, in spite of his political convictions, in no way can he be directed against his country
            1. 72jora72
              72jora72 7 August 2020 22: 43 New
              +5
              Not true. A sane view, regardless of political convictions, can not be directed against one's country.
              Tell the President .......
            2. DED_peer_DED
              DED_peer_DED 7 August 2020 23: 16 New
              +2
              Quote: Senator
              A sane view, regardless of political convictions, can not be directed against one's country.

              Against his own - no. Against them, yes.
          3. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 7 August 2020 23: 14 New
            +4
            Quote: Carte
            His sane view is strictly against the country in which he lives.

            Living in a country does not yet mean "having" it.
            Some people know how to live or not live in the country, but at the same time "have" it. And "to have" is easy, beautiful and patriotic.
      2. Vladimir B.
        Vladimir B. 7 August 2020 16: 04 New
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        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        I rarely watch TV

        In vain. Sometimes the information you need is there. yes bully
    2. From Tomsk
      From Tomsk 7 August 2020 15: 39 New
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      I agree. The budget of our country is mainly formed from the collection of mineral extraction tax - a tax on the extraction of minerals. In 2011 - 2014, when Mishustin had not yet made the tax collection system the most perfect in the world, and VAT tax gaps were everywhere, the MET from oil production was almost the only source of replenishment of budgetary funds. It is impossible to bypass this tax without a criminal component. It is for oil that the MET rate is calculated according to a special formula linked to the exchange quotation and the ruble-to-dollar exchange rate. At the same time, MET on oil is charged for each ton of oil produced, and a ton of oil produced is sooner or later a ton of oil sold. Therefore, the fact that the company has proceeds from the sale of oil clearly carries with it the obligation to pay the mineral extraction tax - everything is checked quite easily and without production accounting systems. Although there has been talk for a long time about installing meters on wells, there is still a long way from talk to business, so the struggle for the purity of charges is mainly waged by the regional Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB. The formula is also tied to an all-time low of $ 13 per barrel. At this rate, the amount of MET is zero. Accordingly, if oil falls below $ 13. All of a sudden! Then the severance tax becomes negative, that is, the state already pays the enterprise. Purely theoretically.
      Accordingly, it can be assumed that even with a barrel cost of $ 32, the budget replenishment is rather scarce. And such situations after the formation of the "egg-box", as can be seen from the analysis described above, have already happened repeatedly. There is no doubt that at these moments the hand was thrown there. There is one more important factor influencing the collection of MET. It is not only the cost of a barrel that affects, but the fact of the rise or fall in the average monthly perspective. The fact is that a ton of oil, for example, produced in March, was sold in April. That is, the severance tax will have to be paid at the March rate out of the proceeds received at the April price. In this regard, small businesses fall into a financial stupor. As a rule, during this period, the calculated MET is accumulated in the form of tax arrears. And the FTS now really acts like a well-oiled computer: in the presence of a three-month delay in payments, a situation arises, which is called a "sign of insolvency" - the company ruthlessly falls into bankruptcy at the request of the FTS. As a rule, in this case, the debt turns only into useless enforcement orders for collection in connection with the bringing to subsidiary liability of persons controlling the bankrupt enterprise, which greatly complicate the life of these persons, but in fact will never be realized. Accordingly, when prices rise, the picture is diametrically opposite - oil workers are happy. What have we done to not depend on world oil prices? By the way, here is the United Arab Emirates, used the period from 2011 to 2014 for active diversification of the economy, reducing the oil share in GDP, developing the tourism sector. Qatar, realized later, but already in 2014 also headed for diversification.
      We have modernized the system for collecting VAT and other taxes (in terms of collecting VAT, the government's successes are obvious). We have strengthened the security structures. We put the money in a box. What else? Diversified your economy? We sell weapons! There are some industrial projects, but they are very insignificant and local in nature, in order to turn the situation in the economy away from the raw material component. And in this regard, the main mistake, in my unprofessional opinion, is the lack of proper attention and the necessary competence for the development of medium-sized businesses. Medium business is very sensitive to the difference between empty delusion and real business. On a medium-sized business scale, it is difficult, if not impossible, to create a hole of several billion. Therefore, it is not interesting. Today we are reaping the fruits of this economic policy, and not the struggle for oil quotes. Medium-sized businesses do not transfer money to Cyprus - God forbid, they would have enough for expenses here.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 7 August 2020 15: 51 New
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        Quote: From Tomsk
        Medium-sized businesses do not transfer money to Cyprus - God forbid, they would have enough for expenses here.

        Medium business deduces as well as large business .. I read your comment, interesting, but in my opinion, too idealized. I strongly disagree with this:
        when Mishustin had not yet made the tax collection system the most perfect in the world, and VAT tax gaps were everywhere, the MET from oil production was almost the only source of replenishment of budgetary funds.

        Yes, taxes are famously collected now, but they, coupled with expensive loans, stifle that medium and small business .. The taxation system is extremely unbalanced and looks more like ripping off ..
        Well, there is no need to talk about the development of industries with high added value at all .. The long payback period in Russia is of no interest to anyone, here everyone is sharpened to disrupt, as quickly as possible and the planning horizon is no more than a year .. Without state participation and a planned economy, this situation cannot be developed seems possible ..
        So it is the state economic policy that is the cause of all the troubles.
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 7 August 2020 16: 00 New
          10
          A long payback period in Russia is of no interest to anyone, here everyone is sharpened to disrupt as quickly as possible and the planning horizon is no more than a year.
          ... Stole, drank - to prison, romance ... Therefore, the principle, the whole economy is being built ... and then we wonder why spaceships do not fly like birds ...
          1. Sen.
            Sen. 7 August 2020 21: 31 New
            +8
            Quote: parusnik
            A long payback period in Russia is of no interest to anyone, here everyone is sharpened to disrupt as quickly as possible and the planning horizon is no more than a year.
            ... Stole, drank - to prison, romance ... Therefore, the principle, the whole economy is being built ... and then we wonder why spaceships do not fly like birds ...

            In 1998, our GKO market collapsed. If nothing changes in the economy, that crisis may come back and repeat ...
            1. Artyom Volgin
              Artyom Volgin 7 August 2020 23: 36 New
              +6
              Quote: Senator
              that crisis can come back and repeat ...

              I would not like to find myself in that crisis again. Then not only the banks went bankrupt, then once again the people's deposits burned out ...
        2. paul3390
          paul3390 7 August 2020 16: 12 New
          13
          Another thing is not clear - why should the oil industry, vodka and many other industries be private at all? I don’t believe in life that the state would pump oil such as less efficiently than nonesh hucksters! And vodka - the same as from our first tsars has always been a monopoly .. And only the liberals decided to privatize it. To take back tasty pieces stolen from the people - you look, and there would be enough money for everything. And even a cannibalistic pension type reform would be unnecessary.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 7 August 2020 16: 16 New
            14
            Quote: paul3390
            To take back tasty pieces stolen from the people - you look, and there would be enough money for everything. And even a cannibalistic pension type reform would be unnecessary.

            Without a doubt, the richest country in the world with the poorest population is a shame. And this shame is precisely in the fact that the state is organized according to the principle of LLC .. Natural resources, alcohol, energy and the largest enterprises should be in the hands of the state.
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 7 August 2020 16: 21 New
              15
              the richest country in the world with the poorest population is a shame.
              I would also understand if our alligators earned their billions with talent and hard work. Well, like Grandpa Ford. But they stupidly stole them! And they stole it from us. The people. Because alligators are super rich, and we are super poor .. They are not talented, but we are lazy, they are just thieves .. Impudent, shameless and extremely greedy ..
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 7 August 2020 16: 24 New
                11
                Quote: paul3390
                I would also understand if our alligators earned their billions with talent and hard work. Well, like Grandpa Ford. But they stupidly stole them! And they stole it from us. The people.

                I would even understand if they stole and would invest the stolen in the development of Russia, build enterprises, etc., but they stupidly build castles over the hill and buy the world's largest yachts .. When I thought that will begin to invest in the development of Russia .. that's naive, they are not enough ..
                1. paul3390
                  paul3390 7 August 2020 16: 33 New
                  +7
                  Capital ALWAYS seeks where it is most profitable. Where he is more comfortable, there is his homeland. And this is not Russia. And she will never be like that. The dollar is like a fish fry, constantly returns to spawn where he was once born .. So under capitalism - the loot will flow away from here again ALWAYS .. The law of nature is this ..
              2. Vladimir B.
                Vladimir B. 7 August 2020 16: 28 New
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                Quote: paul3390
                like grandpa Ford

                This one who provided financial support to the NSDAP and whose portrait hung in the Munich residence of Hitler?
                1. paul3390
                  paul3390 7 August 2020 16: 29 New
                  -9
                  What does this have to do with his business, then? Or did Aloizievich give him money for him?
                  1. Vladimir B.
                    Vladimir B. 7 August 2020 16: 38 New
                    16
                    Quote: paul3390
                    what does this have to do with his business?

                    Direct. Admiring this, I don't even know what to call it, is the same as admiring Vlasov. The factories of your "grandfather" Ford, in France, produced aircraft engines, trucks and cars for the Wehrmacht. Ford was a Freemason and was raised in Palestinian Lodge No. 357 in Detroit. Yes, he collaborated with the USSR, but for this he received finance from the young Republic. And he just financed Germany. But this is your own business, to admire the "grandfather" Ford, and it does not concern me. I just expressed my opinion.
                    1. paul3390
                      paul3390 7 August 2020 16: 43 New
                      -4
                      That's exactly what. And with Hitler - who just did not cooperate. You might think that there was only one Ford here. No, all the bourgeois in full force. Especially American ones. I would like to remind you that, in general, the USSR, for the time being, very strongly traded with Germany .. And you know - something invisibly tells me that if Aloizievich had not attacked us, they would have traded further. It was a very profitable trade. Or was Comrade Stalin, too, according to your Vlasov?
                      1. Vladimir B.
                        Vladimir B. 7 August 2020 16: 49 New
                        21
                        Did Stalin have a different choice in 1939? Or he deliberately went to "friendship" with Hitler. No, he had no other choice but to cooperate temporarily in order to delay the impending war. But Ford and other tycoons of the Western bourgeoisie went to cooperate with Hitler, and his financing, deliberately.
                    2. DED_peer_DED
                      DED_peer_DED 7 August 2020 23: 28 New
                      -9
                      Quote: Vladimir B.
                      Direct. Admiring this, I don't even know what to call it, is the same as admiring Vlasov.

                      What ideological we are ... Directly, under glass and in a frame.
                      Please provide the people with the list of "delicious".
                      But only in the light of the current political and economic model.
                      After all, so, in your opinion, it will be fair and current - ideologically.
      2. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 7 August 2020 23: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: From Tomsk
        Medium-sized businesses do not transfer money to Cyprus - God forbid, they would have enough for expenses here.

        The elimination of small and medium-sized businesses is only one of the goals of the coronabesia crisis.
    3. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 7 August 2020 16: 31 New
      -3
      Oil dollars flowed like a river and our effective managers decided that it would be like this forever, and if so, then let's proclaim ourselves a great energy power, and forget about all other industries ... and so it happened.

      And not even a single factory has been built in the country over the past three years?
      1. Sen.
        Sen. 7 August 2020 21: 29 New
        +5
        Why, not one factory was built, but many factories. The only thing is that the factory is not able to compete with large factories. The volume is not the same. yes
        1. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 7 August 2020 21: 51 New
          -1
          Why, not one factory was built, but many factories. The only thing is that the factory is not able to compete with large factories. The volume is not the same. yes

          - Can the Boguchansky Aluminum Plant (BoAZ), which is part of the Boguchansky Energy and Metallurgical Association (BEMO), compete?

          Okay, what's already there.
          Mechanical engineering and metalworking - 65 (71)

          Building materials and repair - 42 (38)

          Chemical industry - 25 (31)

          Electronics and electrical engineering, equipment - 21 (22)

          Medicine and Pharmaceuticals - 16 (16)

          Textile manufacturing - 16 (13)

          Mining - 4

          Other - 30 (25)

          The first digit of the plant opened in 2019 (in brackets in 2018) These plants were built from scratch. Not fast, but still.
          1. Artyom Volgin
            Artyom Volgin 7 August 2020 23: 37 New
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            Quote: Interlocutor
            Boguchansky aluminum smelter

            Refinement.
            The plant is part of the Boguchansk Energy and Metallurgical Association (BEMO), a unique joint project of RUSAL and RusHydro. In addition to the Boguchansky aluminum plant, BEMO also includes the Boguchanskaya hydroelectric power plant (BoHES) - together they form a powerful production complex, within which the high-energy production of aluminum at the plant will be provided with its own electricity, and the hydroelectric power station will receive a guaranteed largest consumer.
            It's not so simple with the construction of this plant.
            1. Interlocutor
              Interlocutor 8 August 2020 15: 22 New
              0
              It's not so simple with the construction of this plant.

              Smelting plants are always close to hydro and other power plants. Do not collect a lump. Wanted factories, Catch factories.
              Learn to be proud of your country, if it is yours. In all aspects.
          2. CBR600
            CBR600 10 August 2020 11: 24 New
            -1
            Somehow I unsubscribed ...
            Amendments to the Constitution: for which all this was conceived
            Sovereignty. I so expected that they would put me in prison for closing the AZLK-Luzhkov. That there will be a commission that will continue to disclose similar ... And then it became scary.
            Activity Result:
            __ 78 THOUSAND plants and factories closed / killed,
            __ 48 THOUSAND large collective farms in the village reduced 5 times of the remaining 30% unprofitable. Round up to 100 thousand. -
            __ 10 MILLION people are drug addicts, 5 MILLION of regenerated alcoholics, 2,5 MILLION of HIV-infected people (most of them are in the E-burg)
            __ 20% of the total world heroin turnover is consumed by Russia (300 TONS per year). In terms of consumption, we are third after Afghanistan and Iran (note Iran).
            __ All 70 research institutes of the agricultural machine-building industry were destroyed (S.A. Sidorov, Doctor of Technical Sciences)
            __ The defeat of the agro-industrial complex acquired the legislative framework (academician V.I. Kashin)
            __ 50% of the food the country imports. This is a food security issue.
            ... 15-20 years left. to the level of Iran or Afghanistan, without children, without industry without grain.

            HOORAY !!! I'm for hmmm .. Re ..., cheer up! What would have finished the country-MORE MORE APPROVED!


            Uncle, shove your numbers ...
    4. your1970
      your1970 8 August 2020 13: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Svarog
      Oil dollars flowed like a river and our effective managers decided that it would last forever,

      It all began in the USSR in the early 70s after the global oil crisis ... And the effective managers of the State Planning Committee and the USSR Ministry of Finance decided that this would be forever ...
      After which, by the way, arose in the USSR
      Quote: Svarog
      circus with horses and constitution
      1977 of the year ...
      Everything in our history repeats itself to the millimeter, to the point ...
  • parusnik
    parusnik 7 August 2020 15: 21 New
    +6
    "And this little pig grew, grew and grew so big ... - What has grown? !! - Well, what has grown has grown, now you can't change" (c) ..
    1. Vladimir B.
      Vladimir B. 7 August 2020 16: 42 New
      12
      I love the movie "Mr. X" with Georg Ots in the title role good
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 7 August 2020 16: 59 New
        +6
        Well, it has been said about the current situation in the country ... smile
  • Woodman
    Woodman 7 August 2020 15: 30 New
    0
    If COVID-19 hadn't existed, someone would definitely have to invent it.
    But why?
    1. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 7 August 2020 16: 05 New
      12
      Quote: Lesovik
      But why?

      Back in July last year, Oreshkin promised an economic collapse and a protracted recession. I dare to remind, neither about the virus, nor about oil at 30-40, then no one stuttered. And the reason is the population's debt load. Now, every citizen of the Russian Federation, from a newborn to a dying person, owes about 120.000 rubles. And what is typical, debt in real terms is growing, growing very rapidly, while real incomes are falling. And about a third of the debt is bad. The payment of which is impossible, even theoretically. For there is nothing. And to sort out the situation, without a dramatic increase in incomes, and it is in principle unrealistic for that part of the population that receives less than the average median.
      Well, the measures to "fight the coronavirus" provided an excellent opportunity to shift the blame from the creators of this situation onto nature. Not guilty ones, it's all a virus, he came himself. Kismet. What would not have happened in the economy now, the extreme has been found. The virus is. And brilliant economists, who have not learned in 30 years anything but how to sell oil ... They seem to be out of business. They tried, but here's a vicious virus ...
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 7 August 2020 16: 20 New
        -4
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        Back in July last year, Oreshkin promised an economic collapse and a protracted recession

        Well, for the last 30 years, everyone has been predicting this all the time. Sometimes they even guess. About those cases when they did not guess, they prefer not to mention. But if he guessed right, he immediately became a prophet. Very comfortably. They predict the dollar at 100 from the 14th, but what's the point? Economists certainly know better, but reminds the recent forecasts of analysts on oil prices. Almost every day, opinions changed to the opposite, based on the same premises.
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        What would not have happened in the economy now, the extreme has been found. The virus is.

        Well, if from this point of view, then I agree. It's just that Podymov somehow does not highlight this moment. Although I see no reason to panic yet.
      2. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 7 August 2020 23: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        I dare to remind, neither about the virus, nor about oil at 30-40, then no one stuttered. And the reason is the population's debt load. Now, every citizen of the Russian Federation, from a newborn to a dying person, owes about 120.000 rubles.

        The installation to drive people into loans and debts for communal services (very often not existing, like I, for example. 17 years did not have central heating and did not issue invoices. And suddenly .... yes, yes ... and again in this very 2019 bills were sent for astronomical sums exceeding similar sums for those who even HAVE central heating. The city authorities, the Prosecutor's Office, the authorities all went into deep defense. Why?).
        Installation is given from the TOP. It is more convenient to manage people when they are scared and owe everything.
        This is "philanthropy".
  • Alber alber
    Alber alber 7 August 2020 15: 33 New
    +8
    The fact that the budget has been sinking is clear for a long time, just yesterday it was announced that the Ministry of Finance is cutting a bunch of programs, incl. one of the largest, the development of Crimea and Sevastopol, and there is about 1 trillion. wood. It is unclear why, with all this catastrophe, we do not want to get rid of the dollar in the internal, for starters, investment process, but what if gas for the same Khabarovsk depends on its cost on the New York Stock Exchange, according to the agreement on CPP from 98g. , Sakhalin 1, this is nonsense, all investments come from the volume of imported candy wrappers of different colors, which in turn are mined for real resources, such a pancake we have an economy
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 7 August 2020 15: 34 New
      +8
      Quote: Alber Alber
      Sakhalin 1, this is nonsense, all investments come from the volume of imported candy wrappers of different colors, which in turn are mined for real resources, such a pancake our economy

      A liberal economy ruled by the Gauleiters.
      1. depressant
        depressant 7 August 2020 17: 46 New
        +9
        In this regard, the increase in appropriations for the activities of the President and his Administration by the Ministry of Finance looks indicative: in 2021, the corresponding expenses of the President should increase by 88,7 million rubles, for the Administration - up to 14,27 billion rubles. Putin demanded?
        But for the activities of Mishustin and his apparatus - 191,3 million less, and the State Duma and the Federation Council will lose 600 million rubles. As they say, we have done the job (adoption of amendments), walk further as unnecessary. About 400 million will remain in the budget. Compared to costs, crumbs. But nevertheless, the regime of crisis economy is visible. However, these are not a pity.
        But in the nuclear industry - a goat. At the suggestion of the Ministry of Finance, its financing in 2021-2023 will be reduced by 67,5 billion rubles.
        The total investment in our healthcare, education and science is two to three times lower than in the G7 countries. And nevertheless, in order to save money from the crisis, the Ministry of Finance proposes to reduce budgetary financing by 9,5% for each of these categories of investment in human capital. In education - by 33,2 billion rubles, in medicine - by 65,7 billion rubles. Most of all, the allocations for the development of secondary and additional vocational education will be cut - by 631 million rubles, as well as expertise and control and supervision functions in the field of health protection - by 962 million rubles.
        And this is far from all the cuts in cash injections into the economy, medicine and education. And when this starts to happen, then the rows of cars will thin out and evictions for non-payment of loans will begin.
    2. Sen.
      Sen. 7 August 2020 21: 24 New
      +9
      Quote: Alber Alber
      It's not clear why, with all this catastrophe, we do not want to get rid of the bucks.

      I think this is due to the fact that the oligarchy keeps their savings in foreign banks, and not here in Russia. Therefore, we do not deviate from the dollar in internal settlements. It is easier for them, the oligarchs, to count their money.
  • Andrey the Magnificent
    Andrey the Magnificent 7 August 2020 15: 38 New
    -7
    If you do not go to the Internet, you get the impression that everything is lost, there is nothing to eat, everything has been stolen, a circle of people is seized and taken to the Kolyma, in general a complete collapse.
    And you go out into the street, everything is clean, there are expensive cars around, no one falls from hunger, everyone is dressed, shod in expensive clothes, mothers with children go belay
    You go online again, everything is gone, the plaster is removed, the client leaves fool
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 7 August 2020 16: 16 New
      10
      If you take a loan for 10 Lyams, then for some, though not for a long time, you will also look like an Arab sheikh .. But then - collectors will inevitably come and you will become very sad. Maybe it even hurts ..
    2. sergo1914
      sergo1914 7 August 2020 16: 27 New
      16
      Quote: Andrew the Magnificent
      If you do not go to the Internet, you get the impression that everything is lost, there is nothing to eat, everything has been stolen, a circle of people is seized and taken to the Kolyma, in general a complete collapse.
      And you go out into the street, everything is clean, there are expensive cars around, no one falls from hunger, everyone is dressed, shod in expensive clothes, mothers with children go belay
      You go online again, everything is gone, the plaster is removed, the client leaves fool


      Walk along the main streets and large shopping centers. The number of outlets closed. Check out the rental offers. Don't talk about cars. I'm tired of it already. Are there any purchased not on credit? Dynamics of the average check in grocery stores over the past year. I agree about those shod in expensive clothes. All are shod. But here's the trick. Buy brands on sales. Over 30% off the starting price tag. And on Ali. Average household expenses are decreasing. And in all income groups. This is reality. Not a disaster yet. But an unpleasant tendency.
    3. Artyom Volgin
      Artyom Volgin 7 August 2020 23: 38 New
      +9
      Quote: Andrew the Magnificent
      there is nothing to eat

      I have not seen such a statement either on the website or on the Internet. The problem is that our economy is dependent on the West, most of the imported production you listed.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 7 August 2020 15: 42 New
    +5
    After all, the crisis has actually already happened ... it seemed to start with a trifle - with the abolition of double taxation with Cyprus ... but this is a trifle only at first glance recourse

    This is the cancellation of all agreements between the government and business !!! And the business that was from scratch in Russia - for example, Yandex - pays taxes on dividends in the Netherlands (I hope that not a single Zaputin citizen will raise his hand to write that Yandex is fat on oil, gas, timber or metals ?! bully ) - the same Yandex is now considering options for how to pay that sooo high salary to its employees in the new conditions - I know firsthand - friends work there

    Py. Sy. NOT!!! we must confuse taxes in Russia and taxes on dividends! hi
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 7 August 2020 16: 28 New
      +7
      Yandex got fat on oil, gas, timber or metals
      Not. Initially - the loot was from the supply of bourgeois komputer iron. You understand that the most delicious piece here comes from supplies to government agencies .. Without this, you cannot earn billions. And there - strangers are not allowed, only trusted and confidants. Yes, and the organized crime group then covered this topic plump .. So - in the Russian Federation, no big business is, in principle, impossible without the sovereign's boobs. You just need to delve into the background ...
  • bar
    bar 7 August 2020 15: 45 New
    +2
    Well, Mikhail Delyagin did not like, in his own words, only one thing: that the process of returning billions, which has been going on for many years, could be delayed. Also for years.

    The main thing is that this process will at least finally begin. And at the same time, a little krantik will close on the further withdrawal of the dough.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 7 August 2020 15: 55 New
      -13
      How much dough comes so much and investments leave, outflow - they exist all over the world, in all countries, money is always in motion
      1. bar
        bar 7 August 2020 16: 04 New
        12
        How much dough comes so much and leaves

        Even on your chart, you can see that much more is leaving than coming. Especially in recent years.
    2. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 7 August 2020 23: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: bar
      The main thing is that this process will at least finally begin.

      I thought so. Caught at the end ...
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 7 August 2020 15: 55 New
    +3
    You cannot survive the crisis without a firm hand.
    1. Grading
      Grading 7 August 2020 20: 50 New
      0
      You can't survive it without a good loop! laughing
    2. Sen.
      Sen. 7 August 2020 21: 18 New
      10
      We have had one big crisis since the time of Gorbachev. We do not need a firm hand, we need to change the economic program.
      1. Pavel57
        Pavel57 8 August 2020 15: 42 New
        0
        It will not be possible to change the economic program without a firm hand.
  • GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 7 August 2020 15: 57 New
    -10
    Delyagin, Satanovsky, such specialists in economics and politics, metalworking and forest plantations, that Kedmi himself is not suitable for them ....... For the cause, we are not ... ... for work, we are not ... ... But drink ... talk, crackle, it's better not to find us!
    1. Sen.
      Sen. 7 August 2020 21: 16 New
      +7
      Judging by your comment, you understand both economics and politics better than Delyagin and Satanovsky. wink
  • seacap
    seacap 7 August 2020 16: 24 New
    +2
    Quote: parusnik
    Yes, these will raise

    rather, they will hang by the legs, they have not created anything yet, they only destroyed everything, it looks like they are still clearing the place
  • The Word of the Word
    The Word of the Word 7 August 2020 16: 26 New
    -4
    Delyagin leaves a lasting impression of a freaky man ... and for a long time. Focusing on the opinion of such people is the same as believing in the words of Platoshkin). Foolishly naive.
  • seacap
    seacap 7 August 2020 16: 26 New
    +2
    Quote: Pavel57
    You cannot survive the crisis without a firm hand.

    without a firm and national head, rather, with their hands, they already grabbed everything they could
  • TAMBU
    TAMBU 7 August 2020 16: 30 New
    +2
    Come on from the stove: crisis is an integral part of capitalism. For 90% of people it is generally permanent, for 5% it sometimes ends in success, after which there is another crisis, and for the remaining 5%, they sometimes lose some of their capital, and sometimes gain in those periods that economists call a crisis ...
    1. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 7 August 2020 23: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: TAMBU
      Come on from the stove: crisis is an integral part of capitalism.

      But recently the emergence of "new technologies" has been noticeable in creating crises. Not an integral part of the capitalist system.
      The "comrades" began to "get creative" abruptly.
      What is it for ?
      1. TAMBU
        TAMBU 8 August 2020 02: 36 New
        0
        if something is not clear, put money as the cornerstone and everything will become clear) Creativity is just from those 10%, half of which sometimes rises ... I want to rise more often, but the "comrades" richer do not allow to do it just like that ...
  • Desperado
    Desperado 7 August 2020 16: 44 New
    +4
    Quote: Vadim237
    The Russian economy, despite the presence of a decent bouquet of problems - everything is more or less normal, whatever one may say, we remain the world's 11th economy in terms of GDP.


    If you look at the denomination, and if you look at the GDP (PPP) per capita? What place? 50s, somewhere between Greece and Turkey. Undoubted success)))
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 7 August 2020 17: 23 New
    +6
    I would not comment, but I was struck by one remark: it says that today's Russia is correcting the "feudality" of the USSR. And this will take more than a dozen years. Whose ships are flying into space now? What the USSR left was stolen, sold. And then we woke up, they say we are the owners. Delyagin differs from Katasonov in that Delyagin is an economist, and Katasonov has turned into a conspiracy theorist. We often say that in America, dying capitalism, having a beastly grin. Just our capital has not reached the heights of transnationals, although they dream about it. the state is being built for the sake of capital. Both external and internal. And the promoters of such a system are often the shareholders of capital. We are paid a pension not because of, but in spite of. If anyone is to thank, it is the labor movement.
    1. TAMBU
      TAMBU 8 August 2020 02: 38 New
      0
      famously formulated. it's a pity only the labor movement is slowly gaining momentum, but on the other hand, everything has its time ...
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 7 August 2020 17: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: paul3390
    Yandex got fat on oil, gas, timber or metals
    Not. Initially - the loot was from the supply of bourgeois komputer iron. You understand that the most delicious piece here comes from supplies to government agencies .. Without this, you cannot earn billions. And there - strangers are not allowed, only trusted and confidants. Yes, and the organized crime group then covered this topic plump .. So - in the Russian Federation, no big business is, in principle, impossible without the sovereign's boobs. You just need to delve into the background ...

    Are you seriously "rubbing" me this ?! laughing Me, who himself greeted Volozh by the hand ?! Me, who bought the Yandex search engine on floppy disks in the mid-90s ??? bully
  • Uncle Izya
    Uncle Izya 7 August 2020 18: 04 New
    0
    Forgot about Khazin
  • 123456789
    123456789 7 August 2020 20: 08 New
    -2
    Quote: Thrifty
    Mauritius - Doctor Delyagin is doing well, it is bad for our economy, which he has already spoken about for a long time, but he was not listened to or heard in the Kremlin!

    And everything is fine in the Kremlin - salary is raised
    Which doctor is good?

    A heifer comes to an appointment with a gynecologist, enters the office - there are three men in white
    robes.
    She grit - you know what a problem I have - I don't have an orgasm ...
    One says - well, let's try. She agrees and all three fry her
    I don't want to.
    How? - ask
    No way ...
    Yes, girl, then you really need to see a doctor!
    Who are you??????
    And here we whitewash, paint.
    Anecdote
  • Shilka
    Shilka 7 August 2020 20: 53 New
    -3
    "Since we are now not experiencing an economic crisis, but an economic catastrophe (just not everyone notices it), the state decided to close the channel for withdrawing funds."

    And all the confiscation funds will go to the Pension Fund ..!
    Then the howl began, and if you act like Lukashenka in his small Belarus, you can catch trillions!
    Here is the Jewish lobby we have against such harsh measures .. What about us for sho ..?
    If we cope with these .. Then the flag is in our hands, men, otherwise we are eternal goy ..
    PS And in Belarus, there are no Jewish oligarchs ... and in general oligarchy
    That's why they hate the Old Man !!!! Especially "our media and not ours" ..
    Putin, too, does not particularly welcome Lukashenko .. After all, he knows our entire structure of power and the oligarchy !!!!!
    And he does not want his people to have such a dependent fate ..
    So who is right and who is wrong. The war will show (just kidding) ..
  • 123456789
    123456789 7 August 2020 21: 17 New
    +2
    This epiphany happens regularly .. For how long Putin has been struggling with this .. probably 10 years .. as well as with gasoline prices ...

    National sport Wrestling of Nanai boys
  • Wizzzard
    Wizzzard 7 August 2020 21: 34 New
    -1
    Quote: Word Rule
    We already heard about the Saudis' victory over the Kremlin in April

    Heard, heard. And we also know the names of the heroes of that war (from the Sechins and above). So who was left without panties in that match? And then, it seems, they heard - but forgot.
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 7 August 2020 21: 37 New
    +3
    Quote: Svarog
    ... Natural resources, alcohol, energy and the largest enterprises should be in the hands of the state.

    "Rotenbjerg" Ltd. welcomes you. A young, fast-growing company with great potential
    1. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 7 August 2020 23: 49 New
      0
      Rotenberg ... I wonder how it translates ... by meaning or by letters?
  • 123456789
    123456789 7 August 2020 22: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: Interlocutor
    Why, not one factory was built, but many factories. The only thing is that the factory is not able to compete with large factories. The volume is not the same. yes

    - Can the Boguchansky Aluminum Plant (BoAZ), which is part of the Boguchansky Energy and Metallurgical Association (BEMO), compete?

    Okay, what's already there.
    Mechanical engineering and metalworking - 65 (71)

    Building materials and repair - 42 (38)

    Chemical industry - 25 (31)

    Electronics and electrical engineering, equipment - 21 (22)

    Medicine and Pharmaceuticals - 16 (16)

    Textile manufacturing - 16 (13)

    Mining - 4

    Other - 30 (25)

    The first digit of the plant opened in 2019 (in brackets in 2018) These plants were built from scratch. Not fast, but still.

    How many closed?
  • Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 7 August 2020 22: 39 New
    +1
    In June, the death rate in Russia increased by 26 thousand people. This is the official data and now stupidly calculate the increase in mortality by the end of the year. About 14 thousand have died from the virus over the entire time. Well, that's all fell into place.
  • UserGun
    UserGun 8 August 2020 00: 08 New
    0
    Quote: Word Rule
    German cars are 75-80% composed of Chinese units,


    Those. You are now directly and directly asserting that the cars produced in the Russian Federation by German manufacturers, in fact, do not contain ANYTHING Russian ?! ))) Klap, klap !!! Bravo!!! )))
  • IC
    IC 8 August 2020 00: 18 New
    0
    Note that alarmist economists have been predicting economic disaster, the death of the dollar, the collapse of the EU, etc. for twenty years. But none of this happened. Isn't it time to stop paying attention to them and publish them in the tabloid press and on the trash Internet. The funny thing is that they are all presented as directors of institutes with loud names, which are actually institutions named after me.
  • Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 8 August 2020 07: 13 New
    -1
    All these economists .... did they really work at least a day? At one time, the same Yavlinsky and a number of others were offered a place in the government, but they refused, it is understandable, this is then the responsibility to bear, otherwise it’s not the most cunning thing to grind with the tongue, and besides, it’s profitable ... I have always been interested in the question, and on what money do all these directors and experts of all kinds of institutions and foundations live on, while obviously very good money.
  • Narcologist
    Narcologist 8 August 2020 11: 41 New
    -2
    Few people today do not know Mikhail Delyagin, director of the Institute for Globalization Problems and also one of the duty critics of the government's economic bloc. In terms of the harshness of his assessments, he is noticeably inferior to Nikolai Platoshkin, and by definition he cannot be imprisoned like that.

    We in the Urals do not know him .. And in general, the problems of Moscow are violet to us!
    Let Muscovites shake from problems where to invest money or run away)))))
    We have always had one task in Russia .. How to protect the Motherland! soldier

    These are the things in the Totsk tank division drinks soldier
  • Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 8 August 2020 13: 14 New
    0
    The article "about nothing" - you yourself have to listen to Delyagin in the original, and not read a thoughtful retelling of an amateur who is absolutely not versed in economics.
  • Sarkazm
    Sarkazm 9 August 2020 13: 48 New
    0
    The problem of Delyagin and others is that they are considering everything within the framework of the existing economic model, if you can call that what is going on in the economy in our country.
    If we move away from the speculative model of the economy and air trade, then, in principle, there are no problems in the country. It is clear that we have losses in many industries, but we have the basis, the basis of a normal economy. At the same time, we have an ideal ratio of the country's territory, resource reserves and population. On a per capita basis, we have a lot, even in excess. Many rush to immediately count the number of robots in production, but this is not a completely correct approach and not the most important indicator.
    In short, we have everything for the normal life of the population and the functioning of the economy. As soon as we stop playing by the rules imposed on us from behind the hill and by petty crooks in high offices, everything will be normal.
  • 27091965
    27091965 9 August 2020 20: 52 New
    +1
    Article on the "amateur", but liked the comments. To be honest, I could not have imagined that such a number of economists, doctors and oil workers were registered at VO.
  • CBR600
    CBR600 10 August 2020 12: 14 New
    0
    Yes, it happened. The blind will not see. Hence the authorities are criticized. I'm sure THEIR economy destroyed the country. And this is not a transitional disease. And yes, the hidden truth is a lie.
    I agree, the comments are superb, not like the article itself. But the question of the article, alas, is trivial. And I will note, if it is so, we will all die.
    How to save the country? It becomes funny from the very question and advice.
    Then the Whirlpool looked, there is a song of Spleen - "Pass this to Harry Potter if you suddenly meet him."
    Despair. And in the comments and in the article. Indeed, Muggles ... Tell me what swear words can I use? Announce the entire list, very good =)
  • Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 10 August 2020 14: 52 New
    0
    So far, it can be seen that without straining its convolutions, the government is following the same simple path as before - devaluing the ruble.
    Not a tricky way - trying to postpone the budget deficit again, at the expense of the impoverishment of the population and business, while the domestic ruble prices for goods and products will respond with growth (and they will react with a 2007-fold increase in prices since 2,57), there will be a time delay

    Ruslan Usachev decided to find out how the prices in stores have changed over 13 years, and to compare with the official inflation.
    To do this, he found a check from the hypermarket dated May 19, 2007 and bought the products indicated in it in the store on May 19, 2020. Based on the data from the table, it turns out that inflation in Russia has grown by 2007% since 257. The cost of all purchases by check increased from 3045 rubles in 2007 to 12459,07 rubles in 2020The aim of the study was to check how the real statistics differ from the official ones. Conclusion: the data provided by the authorities and officials are significantly underestimated.


    https://www.rosbalt.ru/like/2020/05/26/1845397.html
    According to my data - even more (I do not live in Moscow - everything is more expensive here).

    Someone else naively believes that the weakening of the ruble against the dollar does not affect inflation?
    25.90 rubles per dollar 25,05,2007 and 71,88 rubles per dollar 25.05.2020/2,77/10.08.2020 73,63 times. And today, 2,84/XNUMX/XNUMX at XNUMX rubles per dollar - that is, XNUMX times - do you still believe that the authorities do not solve their problems at your expense?
    In addition to taxes, you are regularly pocketed in a simple way, devaluing your income.
    That is, in addition to personal income tax at 13%, VAT 10-20%, annually you gave another 19% due to inflation organized by the "zeroed" one.
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 11 August 2020 08: 47 New
    +1
    NEP in Russia in the 20s, the Chinese economic "miracle", South Korea, etc. There are more than enough examples of economic revival. The first thing to do is to remove an incomprehensible university called HSE as harmful and not in line with the interests of the country. Liberals from power too. To supply those who need a strong Russia, not a raw material appendage of the West.
    1. CBR600
      CBR600 11 August 2020 11: 35 New
      -1
      nifiga not so easy-Put those ... The country is bound by international obligations that are against it (the country). And try to terminate these obligations. The current state "afloat" by these commitments has been achieved. Only us from this, you yourself know. A certain Institute for the management of a foreign country. There are south. Korean film Default. That's clearly about us.
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 11 August 2020 11: 42 New
    0
    will many citizens, with their belief in infallible power, finally stop relying only on support from above?
    Does the author even understand what he is saying ?! Our economy is dying, in an absolutely literal sense, from a fierce shortage of money, which the government and the Central Bank do not allow into it, as well as from the ruthless tax press designed for economic entities that generate huge profits. This is with our then barely tilting economy.
    Plus the dominance of officials in business, who use the "underutilized funds" of state programs as interest-free unlimited financing, which allows absolutely ineffective bureaucratic businesses (an official cannot be a businessman, the wrong type of personality) to crush any competition.
    In the sense of "support from above"? We have a merciless war of the state against its own economy! And the call to "cope by yourself" actually means the opening of hostilities against "our" state! Isn't it too bold idea on the part of the author?
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 11 August 2020 23: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Mikhail3
      will many citizens, with their belief in infallible power, finally stop relying only on support from above?
      Does the author even understand what he is saying ?! Our economy is dying, in an absolutely literal sense, from a fierce shortage of money, which the government and the Central Bank do not allow into it, as well as from the ruthless tax press designed for economic entities that generate huge profits. This is with our then barely tilting economy.
      Plus the dominance of officials in business, who use the "underutilized funds" of state programs as interest-free unlimited financing, which allows absolutely ineffective bureaucratic businesses (an official cannot be a businessman, the wrong type of personality) to crush any competition.
      In the sense of "support from above"? We have a merciless war of the state against its own economy! And the call to "cope by yourself" actually means the opening of hostilities against "our" state! Isn't it too bold idea on the part of the author?

      Well, duc remember winked President Vladimir Putin began his annual press conference with an anecdote.
      "Two friends meet, one asks the other, well, they say, how are you? - He replies that life is striped and now he has a black streak. Some time passes, they meet again, again - well, how are you now? - Yes, a black stripe! - How is it, because last time it was black. - As it turned out, last time it was white ... "
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  • Radikal
    Radikal 14 August 2020 14: 13 New
    0
    Quote: Interlocutor
    Oil dollars flowed like a river and our effective managers decided that it would be like this forever, and if so, then let's proclaim ourselves a great energy power, and forget about all other industries ... and so it happened.

    And not even a single factory has been built in the country over the past three years?

    Sound, what, where? winked