American crewed ship Crew Dragon splashed down safely off Florida

SpaceX's American manned spacecraft Crew Dragon successfully completed its first space mission, successfully splashing down in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Florida. The broadcast was conducted on the SpaceX website.

As previously reported by the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), the spacecraft and the ISS undocked on August 1 at 19:34 US East Coast time (August 2 at 02:34 Moscow time). After 19 hours and 14 minutes, at 21:48 Moscow time. On August 2, 2020, as calculated, Crew Dragon touched the water off the coast of Florida. This is the first landing of an American lander in 45 years since the end of the Apollo mission in 1975.

The American astronauts Douglas Harley and Robert Behnken returned to Earth on the ship. The escape pod was lifted aboard the Go Navigator. After being removed from the capsule, the astronauts will be taken to a military base on the Florida coast, and then transported to Houston. According to the crew, they are doing well.

The docked crew congratulated US President Donald Trump on their return to Earth.

Recall that the American crewed spacecraft Crew Dragon, developed by SpaceX as part of a commercial contract with NASA, launched to the ISS on May 30, 2020 after a nine-year hiatus due to the closure of the shuttle program. As part of a manned test flight, he delivered astronauts Douglas Harley and Robert Behnken to the ISS.

NASA emphasizes that this flight is the last major test of the Crew Dragon spacecraft before its certification. After receiving the certificate, he will be able to carry out regular commercial manned flights to the ISS.

Comments

[The leader of the Redskins]

Congratulations to the Americans, Elon Musk and his team of the same thinkers! Space is for all of Humanity!

[Tatar 174]

You are an optimist Leader ... I do not scold you, the Redskins are sitting on reservations because they believed the military then ... Not for all mankind, but for the American military, this is most likely Musk's victory in space.

[Catfish]

Well, don't la-la! You might think that ours are flying there exclusively for humanitarian purposes. Enough to carry this nonsense, everyone has a stigma in the gun, such is life.

[military_cat]

For the military, manned space exploration is not (yet) very relevant. Perhaps even under Starship they have few real tasks. SpaceX Starlink, on the other hand, is more interesting.

[Rakovor]

The stigma may be in the cannon, but it is not the States surrounded by our bases, but on the contrary, so you are talking nonsense, or are you not "ours"?))

[Catfish]

... or are you not "our"?))

Naturally, I am not "your", like any normal person soberly assessing the situation in his country and around the world. So you should better discuss "about bases" with those who like to scratch the language about the world behind the scenes and the dominance of reptilians, they will understand you mentally and support you in everything.

[Rakovor]

And, that is, you think that there are no bases, and that these are all fictions of propaganda? Well, live like this, you are our "sober".))

[Catfish]

1/. I already told you that I am not "your" and never will be.
2 /. There are bases, propaganda too.
3 /. "That is," is written SEPARATE.
You will first learn your native language (if it is your native language), and then start teaching other people how to evaluate these or those events.

[Keyser soze]

"That is," is written SEPARATE.

Well, thank you

We spelled it together and thought that in Russian it was the same. I learned one detail today thanks to you.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

that there are no bases, ...... and let's put our fingers on and count ... the Russian Federation from west to east 8000 thousand km, from south to north about 3 thousand km, and now we add the pumpkin "aircraft carriers" of the Kuril Islands ... Crimea. Kaliningrad, and we add the Arctic where the Russian superiority is undeniable, .... so who surrounded whom is a moot point. ... it's another matter how these bases will be used, ... Russia is a priority in this regard. and shomla western ragtag repeatedly showed failures in the exercises ... or is something wrong?

[Alex Nevs]

Well, bent .... So you can believe the wheelbarrow-Kravchuk, about Stalin's meeting with Hitler in Lviv.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

So believe it ...... but you do not believe it. just look at the map ....... here the war with the Russian Federation will lose with a hundred percent probability. and that's why, the time of the city killers has sunk into oblivion. schya will hit the nuclear power plant. and who has a lot of them in densely populated areas, then checkmate and checkmate, .............. Russia can only be undermined from the inside, but not by military actions .... well, now the nuclear power plant map around the world. .. speculate

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

schya will hit the nuclear power plant.

If nuclear power plants are built to the same standards as ours, then it will not be easy to blow up a nuclear power plant: the reactor zone is covered with a reinforced concrete dome, which is designed to withstand the fall of a passenger liner.
PS
Chernobyl was not bathed, but this is an exception to the rule (an experimental project, with the possibility of fast recharging of the reactor) and now they are not being built.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

then it will be very difficult to blow up the nuclear power plant .......... and it is very simple, one five-meter wave destroyed all four reactors in Fukushima, that is, if the communications for the supply of reactors were violated ... unpleasant consequences ... and if there are no such actions at all !!!! if the samurai did not climb into the zone for elimination, then the cowboys would not climb even more ... and there is already a dome or not, no difference
with a guarantee to withstand the fall of a passenger liner ....... the liner does not have such a shock wave as a thermonuclear explosion does not have a temperature of tens of millions of degrees. so it's bad with this case Karl

[astepanov]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

schya will hit the nuclear power plant. and whoever has a lot of them in densely populated areas is checkmate,.

This is correct. There is no AU in Zimbabwe or Angola, and therefore Zimbabwe and Angola are invincible. Here they are, superpowers, where! I'm not talking about Guadeloupe and Mozambique, they are like aliens from outer space, absolutely impenetrable! Superman rides Batman, the Hulk drives and the Terminator brushes off!

[Crimean partisan 1974]

In Zimbabwe or Angola there is no AU ........ but I don’t remember that the special forces from these countries were conducting reconnaissance operations in the Russian Federation. and even more so there is no aggressive policy ... so why should they be afraid ... they dig diamonds there and raise cattle ...

[orionvitt]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

the time of the killers of cities has sunk into oblivion. they will hit the nuclear power plant

What are you? I didn't think so. The United States has so many nuclear warheads that it will be enough not only for large cities and military infrastructure, but also for small regional centers. And if you add up the nuclear arsenals of the NATO allies, so in general. Consoles one thing. Russia has no less and they know about it there.

[The leader of the Redskins]

By pull, write me to "not ours" ... Thank you very much in advance ...

[Catfish]

With great pleasure! The world (partially) goes crazy, so it's always pleasant to communicate with a normal person.

[Roman123567]

but it is not the States that are surrounded by our bases, but vice versa

Well, that's how it happened in life ..
Should they now take it, and make way around us ??
Albright used to say about the same thing .. they say, it's unfair that the territory of Russia is so huge .. and that such a number of resources are concentrated on this territory .. At the same time, the population is only 2% of the world ..
So everyone has the same stigma in the gun ..
Some bases have many, others have many territories / resources.
And each one complains about the other ..

[svp67]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Congratulations to the Americans

Definitely ... with a return and a soft splashdown

[AUL]

But how many hopes some had!
- it will take off, then we'll see ...
- here it fits, then we'll see ...
- it will undo, then we'll see ...
- if he sits down, then we'll see ...
Sadness!

[Kisa]

how did they tell us here one of the arguments that launching docking is not an indicator - that's when they can believe ..... well, right now, can you spit at Rogozin?)))

[Bar1]

clarity is the same as pictures from the moon, which is not better in principle?

[Glaaki]

Oh, the mantras about photoshop begin.

[Simargl]

Moreover, they took a non-disclosure agreement from the current inhabitants of the ISS that no one flew there.

[region58]

Quote: Simargl

no one flew there.

Something I remembered the story:

Everything went strictly according to the C-16 program, which took over control of the station two and a half years ago. Nineteen minutes after Dyck Essel ceased to exist, the program displayed information about the launch of the mail ship to Gaia on the screens of the Central Sector. Argol watched this mail ship taking his best friend to the third planet, not suspecting that he was seeing only a simulated image, that this ship had never arrived at the station. An hour and thirty-two minutes later, from the Communications sector, information messages from the base, generated by the C-16 program, and three express messages from Gaea for the command arrived. As always, no one noticed anything unusual.

Kazmenko Sergey "Defenders"
https://www.litmir.me/br/?b=60019&p=1

[Simargl]

Quote: region58

Kazmenko Sergey "Defenders"

Those. Kazmenko may be "taken by the gills" for divulging secrets?
Oh stop! They already took him ...

[Atlant-1164]

I hope Mr. Rogozin is jumping on a trampoline ..

[vadimtt]

Congratulations to SpaceX and NASA on the successful launch of the new manned spacecraft!
It is too early to talk about the reliability of solutions, it takes from 10 to 100 launches to make a balanced assessment.
Well, I would like to know, only parachutes work, or is the possibility of a rocket landing in emergency mode still preserved?
Now we are waiting for StarShip

PS: What kind of excuse is there about micrometeorite? The stinker leaked?

[Engineer Schukin]

NASA in those assignments to the Dragon refused to land on the engines, they are reinsured. And rightly so.

[vadimtt]

Yes, I know the official position. But Elon Musk is silent like a partisan when asked what will happen if the parachutes do not work. Those. does not deny or endorse the possibility of an emergency landing. Also, the "leak" of the stink indicates that the fuel was not dumped before the "plasma" landing phase, which means that it was needed for something, despite its danger.

[Victor_B]

Quote: vadimtt

PS: What kind of excuse is there about micrometeorite? The stinker leaked?

[military_cat]

Oh, the same gentleman whose Musk rockets will break from landing, and the Crew Dragon will explode with hipster design. Tells the uryakalka what they want to hear. Views are spinning, monetization is muddying.

[Victor_B]

Quote: military_cat

Oh, the same gentleman whose rockets Musk will break from landing

No, not that one!

[military_cat]

He, he is. I recall his delightful text full of ridiculous aplomb:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1128071823923229&id=100001612675483

[Victor_B]

You should familiarize yourself with his channel.
This guy is not just in the subject of space technology, but one of its developers.

[military_cat]

Why then did he write that Falcon would break from landing, but they would not break?

[Victor_B]

Quote: military_cat

Why then did he write that Falcon would break from landing, but they would not break?

I don't know how to look into someone else's skull.

[military_cat]

What then is your confidence based on that this time he does not say something again directly contrary to reality?

[Victor_B]

Quote: military_cat

What then is your confidence based on that this time he does not say something again directly contrary to reality?

And what exactly does he say you listened to?
Theme, so to speak.
He does not gloat, but calmly examines the situation.
Or 15 minutes of road life?

[military_cat]

I listened. Now answer my question?

[Victor_B]

Quote: military_cat

Now answer my question?

His arguments are enough for me (the engineer) to understand that the presence of heptyl + amyl on the descent vehicle VERY greatly reduces the safety of the landing.
For damage to cylinders or tubes / valves and piping is quite possible ... Alas.
Soyuz and Apollo could not have had such damage during a parachute landing.

[military_cat]

Most technologies are dangerous, this is not a reason not to develop them. Electricity is not dangerous, for example? You can be afraid to develop technologies (in this case, reusable), you can work to ensure reliability.

But my claim, for example, is not this. He says in one place: "Is this normal? No!" - and the viewer is invited to perceive it as a fact, although this is nothing more than his opinion. As grounded as the breaking Falcons.

[VO3A]

Many empty words, just a lyric writer ...

[Roman123567]

His arguments are enough for me (the engineer) to understand that the presence of heptyl + amyl on the descent vehicle VERY greatly reduces the safety of the landing.

Considering all the degrees of risks during launch, docking, undocking, descent, and in general being on the ISS .. how much worse is the presence of anything during landing ??
In the car, the gas tank is also dangerous .. but somehow they managed to make sure that they do not explode every day .. even in an accident ..

[Victor_B]

Quote: Roman123567

In the car, the gas tank is also dangerous .. but somehow they managed to make sure that they do not explode every day .. even in an accident ..

The number of people burned down by gasoline is thousands!
But they generally explode on gas. The only way!
And lithium-ion batteries burn even worse than gasoline.

[Roman123567]

The number of people burned down by gasoline is thousands!

And at the same time no one shouts about danger .. but everyone drives calmly ..))
Although, the number of cyclists who smashed their heads on the asphalt is also not small.

[VO3A]

This epic chatter of yours has nothing to do with technology, your chatter and yourself ...

[Blackmokona]

This is not the same person who talked about the railway dimensions restrictions for Falcon who drives trucks on highways?
And so cars with lithium-ion batteries burn and explode less often than usual at times

[forty-eighth]

Quote: BlackMokona

This is not the same person who talked about the railway dimensions restrictions for Falcon who drives trucks on highways?

He is. In general, his opus about "the flying pasta monster Mask" is, in my opinion, the most reasoned and scientifically grounded fail in the history of aerodynamics. Only an unknown activist who scientifically substantiated the impossibility of the flight of the May beetle was disgraced worse.

[Angelo Provolone]

For damage to cylinders or tubes / valves and piping is quite possible ...

You can still stumble upon the firmament. And God lives behind him. it's a sin to launch rockets

[VO3A]

You probably looked in the wrong place ... You saw dancing around the capsule in the water and on the ship ... Do you think these dances are reasonable ... Either you are blind, or worse ... This is not normal ... And Mask's sour face with a strained smile without joy ... or he was tired of throwing coal into the furnace ... he knew everything in advance, there were a lot of sensors and he knew everything ... Yes, the result has been achieved, but this time it will not work with certification ... Do you want to fly on such a capsule?

[military_cat]

You now also pass off your opinion as a fact.

By the way, it's too early for you, with so many dots in the text, like an emo schoolboy, to explain to other people for their epic and lyricism.

[VO3A]

It's all ? What else can you do? Sharpen? Will you fly on such a capsule yourself?

[Yehudi Menuhin]

Well, how are you progressing, have you developed a lot?

[Perseverance]

An expert who constantly makes mistakes is such an expert.
And all the noise is due
"Outside intend to tetroxide nitrogen.3 parts per billion... Purge to zero. "

[VO3A]

He's an expert. Reads, translates, analyzes. Good or bad, as it turns out. And you are a gray man in the street, a spectator, a lover of chatting. Do not touch people who, unlike you, do something in the topic under discussion ...

[RUSS]

Quote: vadimtt

Congratulations SpaceX

Pronounce Space Ex correctly.

[tralflot1832]

Congratulations! Thank.

[Engineer Schukin]

Well, orionvitt, feel the man in yourself, fulfill the conditions of the bet.
Six months of samoban.

[Lontus]

The fuss with Dragon's splashdown is a conspicuous difference with the Apollo:
1. Dragon burned much stronger than shiny Apollo
2. The sea did not even try to retrieve the helpless bodies of the astronauts. first lifted the capsule to the ship to do a very long extraction procedure. On Apollo, the starmen quickly jumped out of the capsules right on the waves.
3. Lengthy procedure for measuring the amount of toxic fuel leaks and venting it. They didn't bother at all on Apollo, although there was also a stink in the capsule itself. Broadcast commentators throughout the hitch mentioned the horrors (toxicity and carcinogenicity) of amyl (dinitrogen tetroxide) and hydrazine.
4. There weren't even attempts to move the astronauts around the deck on their own - they took out the bodies, put them on a gurney, and took them away. And commentators of the broadcast constantly talked about the detrimental effect of weightlessness on motor functions. On the Apollo, the stars walked across the deck at a brisk pace, almost jumping up and down like goats with boldness. Particularly cool was the moment when the starfighter jumped from the capsule to the rubber boat right in the spacesuit in an ugly way - many can do this even under normal conditions, and not just after many days in zero gravity.
Conclusions?

[Lontus]

Conclusion from these striking differences:
Another confirmation that there were no flights of Apollo and Gemini, not only to the Moon, but even to orbit ..
Only a very stupid person can believe in the flights of Apollo to the moon.

[Zeev zeev]

The entire Soviet people, the entire Soviet government, all the workers in the Soviet space industry, the entire leadership of the Soviet nuclear program ... Everyone is so stupid ...

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: ZeevZeev

The entire Soviet people, the entire Soviet government, all the workers in the Soviet space industry, the entire leadership of the Soviet nuclear program ... Everyone is so stupid ...

After all, we have already explained to people like you that it was an agreement at the highest level. Recognition of the striped flag on the moon in exchange for access to global hydrocarbon markets. And then the party said "It is necessary", the Komsomol answered "Yes!" Everyone who understood what was what was saluted. And people can hang noodles.

[Zeev zeev]

Yeah. Moreover, noodles were hung not only for the USSR, but for the rest of humanity, and even after the collapse of the USSR, no one could say a word. And in the USA, how well their mouths were closed. We couldn’t talk about Watergate, we couldn’t talk about Iran-Contra, but we couldn’t talk about Apollo ...

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: ZeevZeev

We couldn’t talk about Watergate, we couldn’t talk about Iran-Contra, but we couldn’t talk about Apollo ...

So after all, and about "Apollo" could. We've Never Been on the Moon was published in 1976.

[3danimal]

Let me remind you that books by Ron Hubbard were also published. About galactic emperors. They won't write nonsense

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: 3danimal

Let me remind you that books by Ron Hubbard were also published. About galactic emperors. They won't write nonsense

[snucerist]

Not tired of posting nonsense?
Even if we admit such nonsense about an agreement with the USSR, then what about the rest?
Thousands of scientists, observatories, scientific centers of literally all developed countries of the world watched the take-offs of Saturns and the movements of Apollo. The trajectories of the spacecraft were carefully tracked and recorded. Any deviation of the spacecraft from the trajectory of the same circumlunar orbit would be immediately detected. Any inconsistency would raise a lot of questions.
Meanwhile, over the entire period of the program, not a single country in the world, not a single scientist has raised a single question. Were they all in cahoots with the United States? All countries, every single one? Every last astrophysicist or astronomer?
It will be nonsense.
This is not suspicious.
And the fact that such stuffing went just recently and as if on command. And for some reason only in Russia. No one else, to this day, doubts the reality of the Saturn-Apollo program.
Why?

[5-9]

Who followed what of these thousands and for help? Specifically by what technical means. Photos from the observatories from which the FSE was recorded - where?

[Simargl]

Quote: snucerist

And the fact that such stuffing went just recently and as if on command. And for some reason only in Russia.

Well what are you! It all started in the USA, the Japanese continued, and ours just picked up ...

[eklmn]

“And for some reason only in Russia. No one else, to this day, doubts the reality of the Saturn-Apollo program. "
You are wrong - it started with the USA in the 70s.
“But what really propelled the conspiracy theory into popular culture, Plate said, was Peter Hyams' 1978 film Capricorn One, which is about a fake human landing on Mars. (Also, Bill Kaysing's 1976 pamphlet We Never Been on the Moon was popular with the conspirators of the day.) ”
“It was 40 years ago, but the enthusiasts of lunar mysticism are still with us.
The X-Files brought all kinds of space conspiracies into the public consciousness in the 1990s and 2000s, and a rebooted version of the show focused on the moon landing in the 2018 episode. The conspiracy has also been featured on many other television shows, from Futurama to Friends. ”
"Opinion polls over the years regularly show that about 5% of Americans believe the Apollo moon landings were rigged," former NASA chief historian Roger Launius recently told The Associated Press. That's over 16 million people, assuming the US population is 327 million. ”
The article is very interesting:
“The moon landing hoax continues, 50 years after Apollo 11. But why?"
https://www.space.com/apollo-11-moon-landing-hoax-believers.html

[3danimal]

What about the starts of the Saturns and the thousands of people who watched them?
Initially, a demagogic position: I present controversial arguments, but everyone who disagrees with them is stupid. Consequently, they do not need to substantiate these arguments more reliably.

[NordUral]

There were starts, Saturns were. Just what Saturns and where did they fly?

[3danimal]

At least into orbit. And according to telemetry and various radars (including Soviet ones) - "To the Moon and back"

[NordUral]

And according to telemetry data and various radars (including Soviet ones)

A link, please, about telemetry?
I've read that there was no possibility in the Union then to receive such telemetry.

[donavi49]

That is, there was no ??? So the Soviet Union did NOT fly to the Moon, Mars, Venus ??? Wow...

[Zeev zeev]

Did the USSR not have the ability to track the signal transmission from the lunar surface? But what about the Soviet devices on the moon then tracked? Or was there an agreement there too and the Americans were hiding the fact that there were no Luna or Lunokhod vehicles?

[NordUral]

There is a difference in tracking your own and others'.

[Zeev zeev]

Reading the encrypted signal makes a difference. And tracking the live transmission is no problem.

[3danimal]

NASA had telemetry. Some kind of encryption had to be (like the USSR).
But the radar stations were monitoring the radar. And for the Apollo, and for their own (mission to land the Lunokhod).
Then there was a space race, the Union would have left a stone on the stone, having received confirmation of the fake flights.

[Simargl]

Quote: 3danimal

Then there was a space race, the Union would have left a stone on the stone, having received confirmation of the fake flights.

Well what are you! People, for the correct designation in my opinion, I can get a ban for an insult, they believe that the USSR received perfections for "silence".

[3danimal]

Mentioned here about the "Americans bought the silence" theory

[Glaaki]

Tell me, you probably still believe in a flat earth, right? How are 5G towers not chipping you directly into the brain with Gates' corona chips? And the homosexuality outside the window does not irradiate homosexuality, no?

[Simargl]

Quote: Glaaki

And the homosexuality outside the window does not irradiate homosexuality, no?

I have never seen a rainbow with the prefix "homo" ...

[AUL]

Thank God, well, at least they found something bad! Alexey Lontus breathed a sigh of relief.

[Zeev zeev]

1. "Dragon" made its first manned flight. Expecting ideal reentry parameters and less spacecraft burnout compared to Apollo, which was the THIRD type of spacecraft after Mercury (in which one of the astronauts was nearly fried due to a wrong reentry angle), is rather strange. By the way, I strongly recommend inquiring about the number of thermal insulation tiles burned out at the Buran.
2. The Apollo flights had different landing protocols. First the crew, then the capsule by helicopter. In the case of the Dragon, first a special ship lifts the capsule, then the astronauts are taken out.
3. Over 40 years since the last launch and last landing of Apollo, environmental standards have slightly changed. More precisely, they changed a lot, so the number of checks was greater and they waited a long time for a decrease in gas concentration.
4. After landing on the Soyuz, astronauts and cosmonauts are also pulled out and pulled out in their arms, and they left the Shuttles themselves and even by the ladder. What conclusions can there be? Well, for example, it may be Therefore, after a week-long flight of Apollo 8 towards the Moon, around the Moon, back to Earth, the state of the astronauts was much better than after two and a half months on the ISS.

[NordUral]

4. After landing on the Soyuz, astronauts and cosmonauts are also pulled out and pulled out in their arms, and they left the Shuttles themselves and even by the ladder. What conclusions can there be? Well, for example, it may be Therefore, after a week-long flight of Apollo 8 towards the Moon, around the Moon, back to Earth, the state of the astronauts was much better than after two and a half months on the ISS.

Incomparable flight conditions.

[Zeev zeev]

Incomparable flight times. Like Gagarin, who, after a flight of 108 minutes, felt great, and like Titov, who underwent rehabilitation for two weeks after XNUMX hours.

[Avior]

Conclusion - the more time an astronaut spends in space, the more problems he has when landing.
But he has long been known.

[Zeev zeev]

Here I am about the same. The longest Apollo flight was 84 days during the Skylab 4 mission. It is the footage of the landing of these astronauts that should be compared with the Dragon, and not the lunar missions, which lasted two weeks at the maximum.

[Grazdanin]

How the astronauts were pulled out of Dragon is more of a security protocol. They looked very cheerful.

[Grazdanin]

They walk more or less normally.

[Lontus]

Quote: Grazdanin

They walk more or less normally.

There is nothing close to normal.
And to cheerfulness (as some try to assure) as to the moon.

[Roman123567]

I have one option .. a few days is still less than a few weeks / months ..

[Blackmokona]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/S69-22265.jpg/1280px-S69-22265.jpg

[Max otto]

Quote: Lontus

... There were not even attempts to independently move the astronauts around the deck - they took out the bodies, put them on a gurney, and took them away. And commentators of the broadcast constantly talked about the detrimental effect of weightlessness on motor functions. On the Apollo, the stars walked across the deck at a brisk pace, almost jumping up and down like goats with boldness. Particularly cool was the moment when the starfighter jumped from the capsule to the rubber boat right in the spacesuit in an ugly way - many can do this even under normal conditions, and not just after many days in zero gravity.
Conclusions?

The ability of astro- and cosmonauts to walk independently is determined by the duration of the expedition, if it was several days, then nothing prevents them from walking, and if weeks have passed, it is physically difficult to do this, a person has lost the habit of walking, bones and muscles weaken. Therefore, they are taken out and transported, they themselves cannot.
This also applies to shuttles, the Americans did not have long expeditions.

[Simargl]

Quote: Max Otto

Therefore, they are taken out and transported, they themselves cannot.

They can. But for safety and subsequent problems, doctors strongly do not recommend them.

[Angelo Provolone]

Especially cool was the moment when the star jumped from the capsule to the rubber boat right in the spacesuit in a wicked way - not many can do this even under normal conditions

Demands are falling for the health of astronauts. So I can't

[voyaka uh]

On Apollo, the mission was very short.
The time spent by astronauts in space is short.
The human body did not have time to change from weightlessness.
People are on the ISS for a long time. Weightlessness weakens the body.

[5-9]

Short? Yes, astronauts and after returning from the moon were like cucumbers ...

[voyaka uh]

The moon landings were very short. Several hours on the moon.
And the whole round trip is 10 days. All 7 landing flights were like that.

[Simargl]

Quote: voyaka uh

All 7 landing flights were like that.

Drop off 6.
And the fact that on Space Shuttles after 1992, almost all flights with a duration comparable to the flight of Apollo and there people also cheerfully run after landing - this is an inconvenient fact.

[snucerist]

Have you watched at least one splashdown then?
It was a complicated procedure.
A team of rescuers in chemical protection suits approached the device, the hatches were opened, the crew was moved into inflatable boats, then they were brought on board a helicopter with special nets or on clamps, and then on board a military vessel.
Here, in principle, everything is the same.
Dragon had to be tested for the concentration of hydrazine traces on the plating. They are always there (see how the Kh-37B mini-shuttles are greeted), but concentration must be safe. This is what explains some of the delay.
Then a second rescue team checked the hull for leaks, after which the greeters entered the capsule.

[Simargl]

Quote: Lontus

1. Dragon burned much stronger than shiny Apollo

The fact that the taper is less than you do not bother, I understand?

Quote: Lontus

2. The sea did not even try to retrieve the helpless bodies of the astronauts. first lifted the capsule to the ship to do a very long extraction procedure.
4. There weren't even attempts to move the astronauts around the deck on their own - they took out the bodies, put them on a gurney, and took them away.

Those. the difference in flight duration doesn't bother you either?
We are looking at the arrival of the Space Shuttles - there the flight durations are comparable to those of the Apollo ones and the “star-pilots” also run out almost skipping. After flying for more than two weeks, they try not to move the "star-pilots" much ... and even those who are lying down, after such a number of days, are not forced to get up abruptly. And that's why the capsule was first fished out, and then the people were pulled out.

Quote: Lontus

And commentators of the broadcast constantly talked about the detrimental effect of weightlessness on motor functions.

How tired you are of omitting inconvenient facts!
Yes, weightlessness (and even a prolonged horizontal position) has a detrimental effect on the body, but you omit the fact that the negative effect grows over time, and not instantly. The critical time is about two weeks.

Quote: Lontus

3. Lengthy procedure for measuring the amount of toxic fuel leaks and venting it. They didn't bother at all on Apollo, although there was also a stink in the capsule itself.

And who said that it was not? Not shown? But even so, the instruments did not show leaks.
And what they measured - probably, they did not want to burn their barge.

Quote: Lontus

Conclusions?

You omit inconvenient facts, you do not know how or do not want to analyze and compare honestly. You're lying.

[Arpad]

Quote: Lontus

Conclusions?

simple.
Rogozin, with his screams about trampolines, dealt cruelly.

[tralflot1832]

The pessemists have found a fly in the ointment. Apollo used to meet aircraft carriers, and a dragon is some kind of karyto, maybe converted from a fisherman. America is smaller.

[Blackmokona]

Musk, in order to save money, refused the services of the Navy. By creating your own search and rescue team.

[tralflot1832]

Musk just helped us check if there is a running aircraft carrier on the Atlantic coast of America, it turned out to be nett. Trump would not have missed such an opportunity to promote. America is great again in manned space.

[Blackmokona]

It was known years before the flight that SpaceX would be rescued without involving the Navy.

[tralflot1832]

We switch from Musk, his macaroni flew and flew. I'm talking about Trump, this is the greatest PR man. There is simply nothing to meet him personally with the descent vehicle. He was assigned the rank of an aircraft carrier. He did not give a damn about Mask. .No aircraft carrier, no, the president's meeting of astronauts at sea. With appropriate measures. Conclusion: Either the presidential administration itself was not completely sure about this mission or not a running aircraft carrier.

[Region-25.rus]

Quote: Lontus

Conclusion from these striking differences:
Another confirmation that there were no flights of Apollo and Gemini, not only to the Moon, but even to orbit ..
Only a very stupid person can believe in the flights of Apollo to the moon.

Did you pass EG perfectly? And yes .... right! And flights to the moon believe only stupid (by the way .. the Indians took a picture of the landing sites recently) and smart people believe in flat earth!

[Simargl]

Quote: Region-25.rus

but the smart believe in flat earth!

No longer! Dumpling earth is in trend.

[Thrifty]

Mr. Rogozin, I look forward to your live launch into space on a trampoline, and preferably just before Saturn so that you can be added. ....

[Dikson]

We can congratulate humanity and the United States on the opening of a new page in manned space exploration .. Without a doubt, Musk will not stop there .. I would like to believe that this flight will not serve as a reason for the termination of cooperation between our countries in space ..

[donavi49]

Boeing is still flying this year, with a second attempt at Demo1. If he does, then in 21 he will not be able to get to the ISS, because Boeing wants at least 2 flights a year (4 each), Musk also wants at least 2 (4 each) and Unions.

On the other hand, there will be a lot of people, all modules can be loaded with work, and not like now, when sometimes there are really not enough hands for especially complex experiments and you have to adjust, optimize and simplify.

[Grazdanin]

dream chaser is still on the way. It will really be cramped in space.

[5-9]

So NASA bought tickets for us (as part of the exchange of seats) ...

[DMB84]

For a long time I have not written anything .... It seems like I'm here too much in the get-together of Kremlinbots and Americanbots ..... You have a get-together, after all. It's just boiled.
The Americans have a real event - 45 or whatever years, they did not send people, and now they sent them, they returned them safely. Well done. My personal congratulations. Moreover, the private company sent it. Another curious thing is that there is almost silence in the news .... About a dude who lost 100 kg in weight, in the states, there is abundant infa, about anything you want ... About the return of dragon-nifiga. This is not to affect the sick feelings of the vulnerable Rogozin? Or such a trifle compared to the discussion of the diet on cucumbers that there is simply nothing to talk about. Until recently, I somehow harbored some illusions about the decency of the media that were no longer mass media ... Naive. Yes ? And Cho, everything is cool with us .... and everything is rotten there. Rotten everywhere, not rotten here ... Yes, comrade gentlemen ... sadness ...

[Mikhail Ya2]

How old are you? The last manned flight was in 45

[Zeev zeev]

In 2011 year.

[Grazdanin]

Quote: DMB84

Until recently, I somehow harbored some illusions about the decency of the media that were no longer mass media ... Naive. Yes ?

I read English-language resources, a maximum of a third of the information is reflected here. Retellings are incomplete, important things are omitted, parts of important news are simply not there.
2 weeks ago there was a launch of Fallon 9 with military The South Korean satellite, with a record for re-launching 1 stage, caught both fairings for the first time. Silence.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Grazdanin

About 2 weeks ago, Fallon 9 was launched with the military South Korean satellite, with a record for re-launching 1 stage

could you really run it 3 times? well give! cool! how much was there according to plan? ten?

[borberd]

Politics . All achievements, even of an individual company, are a plus for Trump's rating, and this is nizzza from the point of view of the American left-wing press. What worries America now is to abolish the police, BLM, anarchist protests, and who said what against the gay fag.

[Simargl]

Quote: DMB84

Americans have a real event - 45 or how many years there

July 8, 2011, STS-135, Shuttle Atlantis

[eklmn]

"About the return of dragon-nifig"
This "sadness" from the USSR. In the 90s I lost a beer to my friend, incorrectly answering his question “how many expeditions were amer's on the moon”.
I replied that it was 3, but it was 6.
The former were written on the first page of newspapers, and the subsequent ones were not written on the third. And the third page has never been read - boring.

[Roman123567]

In the United States, they said they plan to fly to the moon and stay there to explore it. The first test flight around the satellite will take place this year.
NASA plans to land a crew on the moon in 2024. This was stated by the head of the United States National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) Jim Bridenstein in a statement released by the Agency's press service.

According to him, the successful flight of the SpaceX Crew Dragon to the International Space Station (ISS) gives optimism to think that the next mission - a trip to the moon - will be successful.

"Today (August 2 - ed.) There was a big victory, but we are only at the beginning. The Artemis space program has the goal of returning a person to the Moon. We are planning to fly to the Moon and stay there. We are going to learn how to live and work there for a long time. time, "Bridenstein said.

[donavi49]

Now there will be 6 weeks of bureaucracy, auditing and inspections. If nothing is revealed, then certification for 4 and already a full-fledged flight with 4 astronauts under the USCV-1 code - Hopkins, Glover and Volker, through NASA and Noguchi by JAXA. Approximately the end of September.

Then USCV-2 - there are 3 interesting things at once:
1) The wife of Bob Benken (who splashed down) is flying.

2) On the line of ESA, Thomas Pesce is flying, who has already flown on the Soyuz and is remembered for his saxophone playing.

3) This will be a reuse of Endeavor, the one that splashed down now.

[rocket757]

Well, okay. Not everything is to carry them on our ships.

[Angelo Provolone]

Sure. Such a burden of responsibility was thrown off the shoulders. Now it will not be necessary to carry to Mars either. In general, life will come !!!

[Angelo Provolone]

Well, okay. Not everything is to carry them on our ships.

Sure. Such a burden of responsibility was thrown off the shoulders. Now it will not be necessary to carry to Mars either. In general, life will come !!!

[Angelo Provolone]

Does the photo symbolize a trampoline?

[vladimych]

Two months in space, after landing a press conference, after which we got up and walked with an easy gait. Maybe I missed something, or is this a common thing?

[Blackmokona]

Usually, the record holder upon arrival in space Padalka sat on a gurney only for the first couple of hours, then he got up and walked.
These, too, were first pulled out on a stretcher by the rescuers, and then they got up and went

[Comrade Michael]

Well done. At least someone must go forward on Earth. The main thing is that no enemy will shake us in our lying position.

[5-9]

Well done also returned ... living people still ... I understand that NASA is still waiting for Starliner, they do not like the 4-second delay at SAS (i.e. count it not, Soyuz with this in 2018 would killed everyone) with liquid engines. Well, there will be no reusability of missiles or ships when delivering people.
The country's prestige has been restored ....

[donavi49]

USCV-2 with Benken's wife (who returned in Dragon) will take place on the same Endeavor, in the 2nd quarter of 2021. So there will be a reuse on the ship. There will be reuz on the steps, but not the fact that with people. Musk has a wagon of launches, and boosters will make their 5-7 launches. Putting a new booster on people is generally no problem, and then finishing it off with Starlinks or other companions.

[5-9]

I heard that NASA only announced new ships ... changed your mind?

[donavi49]

Back in June:
Days after the successful launch, NASA gave SpaceX approval to reuse flight-proven spacecraft, indicating Endeavor.

[Old26]

Quote: Victor_B

You should familiarize yourself with his channel.
This guy is not just in the subject of space technology, but one of its developers.

There are very big doubts that he was seriously developing something there. But the repeatedly pronounced "hipster" design suggests that it was unlikely to be related to the development. The absurdity with the evacuation. He didn't like a certain "board". along which the American astronauts slid from the hatch to the surface. And did he ever see inflatable ladders for evacuation from an airplane? The design of these ladders does not bother him.
Yes, there may have been a leak, so far nothing is known about it, but even if there was (and this is the first flight of EMNIP in such a configuration, there is nothing supernatural in the fact that there was simply no degassing. Even if we take its chronometers and the within 3 minutes, then 4 astronauts would have been evacuated in 12 minutes, not 20. Plus, a strange concern for health and a subtle hint of a defect in the spacecraft The rest are in the capsule at the time of evacuation No. a self-rescuer for 1-15 minutes of work is not difficult. Besides, if anything, before opening the hatch, they will again carry out degassing. Why he did not like the medical or some other gurney. After removal from the Soyuz descent vehicle, the crew is also placed chairs resembling a medical gurney, but without wheels, and they are then manually transferred to helicopters.

In short, a lot of aplomb and speculation. At least this story cannot be quoted as a serious source.

Quote: Victor_B

Soyuz and Apollo could not have had such damage during a parachute landing.

And they could not sit down otherwise. Only by parachute. Here, nevertheless, as far as I understood, the possibility of landing on engines is provided, as it was planned at one time on the Zarya. Parachute option in this case as a guaranteed option ...

[4UMA]

Launched docked prisamlili-Duc I even did not understand what is the novelty, have we been doing this for half a century already? What Americans are strong in is in Hollywood advertising everything they achieve, here we are not in the lot.

[Blackmokona]

The ship is reusable, unlike ours for example.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: 4UMA

What Americans are strong in is in Hollywood advertising everything they achieve, here we are not in the lot.

and it works! see how the hamsters rejoice that their overseas owner is the best

[Whirlwind]

And thank God ! Let them now shuttle as they want. Musk to help them.
And it's time for us to sail away from these ...............
Stop hugging them and pretending that their sanctions are not against us.

[Narak-zempo]

Finally, a portion of common sense arrived. Ostashko, as always, cuts the truth-uterus, not sparing:

[Gloomy skeptic]

It is somehow unusual - the Americans have suddenly returned on their own, now for a couple of years there will be something to insert news into the headlines, "peremoga" is not otherwise.

[Narak-zempo]

Here it is convincingly proved that mattresses not only did not fly to the Moon, but were not in orbit before the appearance of the Shuttles.