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The German Defense Ministry named the reason for the disbandment of the elite special forces company

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The information that the company of the elite formation of special operations forces KSK was disbanded in Germany was confirmed. According to reports from German sources, it is said that the decision was made at the Ministry of Defense of the Federal Republic of Germany on the basis of an investigation.


About the reasons


In the course of the investigation, numerous facts were confirmed, indicating that the special forces of the German armed forces were committed to a radical ultra-right ideology.

It is noted that "these are not isolated cases when soldiers profess neo-Nazi ideology, but the revealed activity of an entire ultra-right extremist network." Representatives of the research department on right-wing extremism at the University of Applied Sciences Dusseldorf confirmed the facts of the commitment of the military to the radical trend. It was these specialists who were involved by the Bundeswehr to analyze the data obtained on the life and activities of the elite unit's military personnel.

Initially, German Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer announced its readiness to disband the 2nd KSK company a few weeks ago. Now it became known that the company was completely disbanded. The department, meanwhile, said that they intend to resist any manifestations of extremism in the armed forces, be it right, left or Islamist ideology.

German military counterintelligence claims that a total of 500 German servicemen were involved in the investigation. Of these, about a hundred were identified as adherents of neo-Nazi ideology. They found relevant literature, videos of a radical persuasion, symbolism.

Now it is planned that the new composition of the spetsnaz company will be formed by October of this year.

For reference: Special Forces KSK was created in 1996 to focus on special operations, including counterterrorism, hostage rescue and intelligence gathering. Until recently, its strength was approximately 1,1 thousand people (after the disbandment of one of the companies, about a thousand remained).
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  1. Mouse
    Mouse 2 August 2020 19: 52 New
    +9
    Initially, German Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer announced its readiness to disband the 2nd KSK company a few weeks ago. Now it became known that the company was completely disbanded.

    This makes me happy...
    Now it is planned that the new composition of the spetsnaz company will be formed by October of this year.

    This is annoying ........
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 2 August 2020 20: 03 New
      +9
      If naturalized rabies are allowed into the Army ... it will be the end, first of the German army and then of Germany itself.
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 2 August 2020 20: 06 New
        +4
        Just wondering ... is it there, this very German army? Maybe just her likeness? recourse
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 2 August 2020 20: 09 New
          +3
          Well, like 180 thousand - they are doing something there request
          Not a bad "regional" Fleet at the Germans.
          1. Mouse
            Mouse 2 August 2020 20: 17 New
            +4
            In Germany, a campaign is gaining momentum, in which local authorities are taking the initiative not to withdraw the American contingent.

            Hope dies last.... wink
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 2 August 2020 20: 20 New
              0
              It's amazing ... how "nice" it is for some countries to feel occupied. Well, okay Poland (they have such a fate) ... but the Germans belay madhouse!
              1. Pereira
                Pereira 2 August 2020 20: 40 New
                +6
                Yes, the German is not the same.
              2. Russ
                Russ 2 August 2020 20: 59 New
                +1
                It's amazing ... how "nice" for some countries to feel occupied

                Relax ... enjoy ... wassat
                1. aszzz888
                  aszzz888 3 August 2020 01: 33 New
                  +2
                  Rus (MARUS) Yesterday, 20:59 NEW
                  0
                  It's amazing ... how "nice" for some countries to feel occupied

                  Relaxed ... enjoy... wassat
                  Mostly from migrants. laughing
              3. alpamys
                alpamys 2 August 2020 21: 30 New
                +9
                right now, Germany, not without the effort of external forces, is to become similar to Russia in the early 90s ... those who are trying to sound the alarm, making attempts to rectify the situation are declared Nazis, racists, silenced, dismissed from work ... but the Germans are only more sober from this the situation that is happening in the country.
                1. aszzz888
                  aszzz888 3 August 2020 01: 36 New
                  +3
                  alpamys (...) Yesterday, 21:30 NEW
                  +4
                  right now, Germany, not without the effort of external forces, becomes similar to Russia in the early 90s ...
                  Only with a small caveat. In the 90s we didn’t have SUCH migrants or in SUCH quantity. Nemchura will come to some denominator. The question is - to what, and who will rule.
    2. Finches
      Finches 2 August 2020 20: 21 New
      +9
      How not to forbid, how not to punish, and the vaccination delivered by one failed artist to German calves makes itself felt somewhere on a subconscious level, especially among those who have weapons ... The army was already flooded with gay soldiers for tolerance, but still itchy SS tattoos on the forearms of some Aryans! laughing However, they are easy to understand against the background, when an African Bedouin who does nothing useful, with impunity paws a blond Fraulein wherever and whenever he wants! And for this he only increases the unemployment benefit!
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 2 August 2020 20: 34 New
        10
        - Stirlitz, are you Russian, why don't you have a snack?
        - Müller, we are Germans, stingy people ... wassat
      2. Pereira
        Pereira 2 August 2020 20: 45 New
        +1
        The blond fraulein likes it.
        1. alpamys
          alpamys 2 August 2020 21: 31 New
          0
          facial features are simian.
      3. Cananecat
        Cananecat 2 August 2020 20: 59 New
        +5
        The point is that the composition of these companies can be directly called patriots of their country. And what happened was the actions of modern German politicians who brought the army to support nationalist views.
        1. alpamys
          alpamys 2 August 2020 21: 33 New
          +4
          that's exactly what it is, normal guys, patriots of their country and nation.
    3. newcomer
      newcomer 2 August 2020 20: 36 New
      11
      The dismissed specialists will join the ranks of various private security companies, or go to crime.
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 2 August 2020 20: 41 New
        +6
        "A holy place is never empty.....
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 2 August 2020 21: 33 New
          +9
          According to the rich, wasteful people with such training on the street. As a result, both the federal and the land authorities will have more problems, both qualitatively and quantitatively.
          1. Mouse
            Mouse 2 August 2020 21: 42 New
            +6
            If there are fewer problems somewhere, then problems will arrive somewhere ...
            yes
            Law of energy conservation.. wink
            1. newcomer
              newcomer 2 August 2020 21: 46 New
              +4
              On the one hand, yes, but on the other hand, they added to themselves the problems of the hands of the KSK for the selection and training of young animals, even from the elite units; plus big problems with the criminal police and counterintelligence. The problem is squared.
              1. Mouse
                Mouse 2 August 2020 22: 01 New
                +3
                The problem is squared

                If not in a cube ... and they are not afraid that an avalanche will cover ...
    4. Victor67
      Victor67 2 August 2020 21: 54 New
      -4
      Che annoying? New ones will also be recruited. Only business is an ideology))) At least they do not rob cash collectors, like some of us, with patches of pirates and Rodnovers ...
      1. Victor67
        Victor67 3 August 2020 18: 03 New
        0
        And that there are so many minuses, it was I who ran out cash collectors for 136 million and am sitting in a pre-trial detention center under Art. 162, 159, 286 UK? Please explain your position, who minus!
    5. krillon
      krillon 3 August 2020 10: 48 New
      0
      I somehow forgot how the desire to hang chains in the form of the same Treaty of Versailles on Germany ended. The current policy is precisely what contributes to the rise of radicals.
  2. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 2 August 2020 19: 53 New
    +6
    On the one hand, the Natsiks can be understood. There are too many "refugees" and other "BLMs", but on the other hand, Nazism is the way to the furnace. Extremism in any of its manifestations is a crime worthy of severe punishment.
    1. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 2 August 2020 23: 08 New
      0
      "Neither peace, nor war: we do not sign peace, we stop the war, and we demobilize the army" (c)
    2. Voyager
      Voyager 3 August 2020 00: 00 New
      +7
      Globalism and multiculturalism are also a path to the furnace.
      1. Igool
        Igool 3 August 2020 00: 12 New
        +2
        Quote: Voyager
        Globalism and multiculturalism are also a path to the furnace.

        I will add the consumer society, which also gave rise to them
      2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 August 2020 01: 52 New
        0
        Quote: Voyager
        Globalism and multiculturalism are also a path to the furnace.

        As for me, it's better (a hundred times better!) To walk with Arabs under the rainbow flag than to destroy millions of people in ovens and gas chambers. Just incomparable things
        1. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 3 August 2020 06: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
          As for me, it's better (a hundred times better!) To walk with Arabs under the rainbow flag than to destroy millions of people in ovens and gas chambers. Just incomparable things

          in principle, yes, but.
          the pendulum will go the other way and according to the laws of the genre, the ultra-tolerance / passivity of the Germans should soon go into the opposite phase.
          that is, it will pull them, if not to the stoves, then to the aggression not for sure.
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 August 2020 21: 38 New
            +1
            Quote: Maki Avellievich
            the pendulum will go the other way

            It is possible that someone was counting on this effect.
        2. Voyager
          Voyager 3 August 2020 09: 29 New
          0
          You are thrown to extremes.
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 August 2020 12: 47 New
            +1
            Quote: Voyager
            You are thrown to extremes.

            Me? I'm talking about those properties of German nationalism that the whole world has witnessed.
            1. Voyager
              Voyager 3 August 2020 20: 56 New
              -1
              Why are you saying this? I'm talking about multiculturalism, but for some reason you mentioned two opposite absolute extremes: Nazism and the Rainbow Arabs. The world is not divided into black and white.
              1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                Boris ⁣ Shaver 3 August 2020 21: 26 New
                +1
                Why am I saying this? Have you read the article at all? I remind you - an article about radical ultra-right organizations, in which the elite of the German armed forces en masse. The word "radical" and the prefix "ultra" seem to hint at the extremes. Do you think they celebrate the birthday of sausages and the holiday of beer with a special soul?
                1. Voyager
                  Voyager 4 August 2020 13: 21 New
                  -1
                  You walk in circles. Stroybat condemned Nazism. I agreed with him and condemned globalism. All. And here you are with your stoves, gays and comparison, which is better. Nothing is better. Any extreme is bad.
                  1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                    Boris ⁣ Shaver 4 August 2020 17: 49 New
                    0
                    Quote: Voyager
                    Any extreme is bad

                    It is unacceptable to look for an alternative to anything in Nazism. And it is not discussed.
                    There are things that cannot be compared. Arabs in Germany and the smoke of concentration camps over Europe are absolutely incomparable things.
                    On the territory of the Auschwitz camp there were 35 warehouses for sorting and packing looted things, clothes and shoes. Before retreating, the Germans burned 29 warehouses. In the remaining six, a huge number of items and various utensils were found, as well as about 1,2 million sets of men's and women's outerwear and underwear. A large number of children's clothing was found: shirts, undershirts, pants, coats, hats.
    3. aszzz888
      aszzz888 3 August 2020 01: 40 New
      +1
      Construction battalion of the reserve (Ivan) Yesterday, 19:53 NEW
      +5
      On the one hand, the Natsiks can be understood. There are too many "refugees" and other "BLMs" ...
      Tolerance. wink For that fought for it and ran. Now let them clean up this mess that they themselves, and not without the help of the EU, have brewed.
    4. Private-K
      Private-K 3 August 2020 08: 38 New
      +2
      Yes, I beg you! What kind of "Nazism" and "right-wing radicalism" are there !? Under these terms they now write down absolutely legal and normal national-statist feeling of a healthy person. That, damn it, even self-esteem will be written into racism if a white cisgender man has it.
  3. mole
    mole 2 August 2020 19: 54 New
    0
    How !? Those who are called upon to fight extremism themselves were accused of extremism. Not tolerant.
  4. Catfish
    Catfish 2 August 2020 19: 58 New
    +5
    If this continues, they will soon be left without an army at all. Or there will be only tolerant pedagogues, and it will no longer be an army, but a laughing stock. fool
  5. iouris
    iouris 2 August 2020 20: 09 New
    +1
    The main thing in this story: highly qualified Nazis are being formed in the system of the Ministry of Defense of the Federal Republic of Germany, the Ministry of Defense of the Federal Republic of Germany does not know what to do with them. I suggest: denazify. Otherwise, they will seize the FRG (or maybe they are counting on this?).
  6. agoran
    agoran 2 August 2020 20: 11 New
    -1
    After the leadership of Ursula (a normal aunt, but for the post of Minister of the Armed Forces, well, she does not pull).
    The Luftwaffe has real problems. The fallen st in the district of Murits indicator.
    2/3 s-coms are faulty or waiting for spare parts from the wing of a fallen s-that.
    What ideologies, stupid niggas - charging in Abrams - maximum.
    Not that problem, oh not that at the Bundeswehr.
    1. alpamys
      alpamys 2 August 2020 21: 36 New
      +4
      Quote: agoran
      After the leadership of Ursula (a normal aunt, but for the post of Minister of the Armed Forces, well, she does not pull).

      normal ??? This rat has seven children, and when asked if your children serve the country, were they in the army? she said - I'm stupid to send my children there.
      1. Igool
        Igool 3 August 2020 00: 17 New
        0
        Quote: alpamys
        normal ???

        Yes, normal for us. And what are you so worried about the Bundeswehr? The worse they are, the better for us. I do not wish them to restore their combat effectiveness, in light of even the information read out above in the article. They are not friends or even partners for us. So, why did it bother you?
        1. alpamys
          alpamys 3 August 2020 06: 52 New
          0
          and it did not occur to you that German citizens can be present on the site?
          1. Igool
            Igool 26 August 2020 18: 38 New
            0
            Well, do you want me to sympathize with the problems of the Bundeswehr, a potential enemy in NATO, an association directed against Russia? I said that
            normal, for us
            , but for you I am violet
  7. Doctor
    Doctor 2 August 2020 20: 13 New
    -8
    We lay at the bottom. Two terrible lost wars taught them not to rush. It is too early to show your teeth, you need to unite the country and change the generation in the GDR.
    And it's not a tricky business to rivet tanks, submarines, missiles and Schmeisers for them. And the best in the world. They have always been able to do this.
    1. Igool
      Igool 3 August 2020 00: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: Arzt
      And it's not a tricky business to rivet tanks, submarines, missiles and Schmeisers for them.

      But it’s not technology that is fighting, but people. Ours have always recognized the Germans as serious opponents. And so it was. But tolerance is such a thing that corrodes souls, characters and worldview worse than acid. In this connection, the further they are drawn into tolerance, the easier it is for us to breathe, the weaker our "conditional" opponents will be.
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 2 August 2020 20: 17 New
    +4
    This is already the first bell. The Germans' patience for the antics of their power is not infinite. In this company, no one simply wanted to wear skirts as a sign of solidarity with women, against the New Year's lawlessness of the Arabs. The crowd raped German women with the connivance of the authorities. Do you think it ended by a wave of magic. Frau Merkel's sticks. It's not just a taboo for the police and the media. Has anyone been imprisoned? Just recognized as unreliable.
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 2 August 2020 20: 23 New
    +3
    Natsiks have always been there, Natsiks are everywhere, of different varieties and colors, of course. One thing is obvious, they are well fed by their top ones. By your actions or by inaction! It is a fact.
  10. agoran
    agoran 2 August 2020 20: 29 New
    +3
    "Special Forces soldiers of the German Armed Forces were committed to radical far-right ideology."
    So you didn't want to wear skirts and a rainbow flag?
    Hmm, I hope this is the Northern Lands.
  11. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 2 August 2020 20: 32 New
    +3
    Right-wing elitism, with all that it implies, was generally characteristic of the German military even before Hitler and the Nazis. They just dressed it all up and created aesthetics, let's say. The soil before them had been fertilized by other people for at least a century. And, of course, this will not go anywhere by a wave of a magic wand and some orders. Many of these warriors are agencies, which means it is in the history of their family, in family photos and in some relics. Something stuck in their upbringing and morality, history, architecture will talk about something, somewhere there will simply be eloquent gaps, smeared with white paint - all this will gather on suitable soil, whether it is like it or not.
    1. agoran
      agoran 2 August 2020 20: 37 New
      +6
      What's wrong with that?
      I don't like the dominance of migrants in the Russian Federation. We wanted independence: suitcase station - aul.
      Go to your sheep.
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 2 August 2020 20: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      Right-wing elitism, with all that it implies, was generally characteristic of the German military even before Hitler and the Nazis. They just dressed it all up and created aesthetics, let's say.

      This was characteristic of Europe as a whole, not just Germany.
      1. DEVIL LIFE`S
        DEVIL LIFE`S 2 August 2020 20: 51 New
        +1
        Not all of Europe, right-wing views and an attempt to "put neighbors on the right path" - then Catholicism was tortured from the XNUMXth century by the Germans (Germans). Think about the Teutons and their other orders.
        1. agoran
          agoran 2 August 2020 20: 56 New
          0
          Correct. teftons
          The Teutonic Order, also the German Order, the German Order is a German spiritual-knightly order, founded at the end of the XII century. The motto of the order: "Help - Protect - Heal"
          1. DEVIL LIFE`S
            DEVIL LIFE`S 2 August 2020 20: 58 New
            0
            About TeWon, my jamb. And about the motto, every projection of power had beautiful slogans, except for some uprisings.
        2. Dart2027
          Dart2027 2 August 2020 22: 39 New
          0
          Quote: DEVIL LIFE`S
          right-wing views and an attempt to "put neighbors on the right path"

          The entire history of Europe is one continuous "elitism", only in most cases it manifested itself in relation to non-Europeans and was shyly covered with beautiful words.
      2. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 2 August 2020 20: 59 New
        +2
        In Germany, this all took shape in a more specific system - it is generally characteristic of the Germans to count everything, take into account and scrupulously output. There were similar sentiments in Great Britain - but the local lovers of racial superiority needed half of the world so as not to concentrate somewhere on pubs enough. So the British right-wing elitism remained stiff and arrogant in discussing the "burden of the white man", while the German one, on the contrary, sank slowly down, concentrating in a crowded environment of relatively educated people who at the same time did not have the means to benefit from it. There, after all, after the unification of Germany, there were a lot of small noblemen with a pedigree before Tsar Pea and without a penny of money. These people asserted themselves accordingly - to the extent of their economic capabilities, in a get-together, creating and developing all these traditions. We can observe similar motives in Poland, but there has always been a more material external enemy, ideally suited to the role of a materialized antagonist. And the history of some kind of superiority over this enemy (let's say racial) would have been sewn with white thread, therefore it could not find a one-time mass support both at the top and at the bottom.

        The Germans, on the other hand, fully tasted this superiority in World War I and World War II - despite their tragic finale, the tremendous successes of the beginning and the struggle against the whole world is such a thing that is not so easy to get off of. For example, we still love to waste time on the Soviet past - people like something epic and their involvement in it. Whether it was bad or good, it does not matter, it is in nature. So I don't think that the "brown plague" just dispersed or left - she sits in grandma's chests and various everyday thoughts and waits for the third round ..
      3. Ryazan87
        Ryazan87 2 August 2020 23: 04 New
        +2
        This is in principle characteristic of the military. How to build an army capable of fighting without the spirit of superiority over the enemy, the feeling of one's own elitism? Moreover, if we are talking about a few selected professionals who will have this feeling at least due to their skills.
  12. Charik
    Charik 2 August 2020 20: 51 New
    +2
    Cinema and the Germans, now, as in the American cinema, will be offended and abandoned by the country to the mercy of elite fighters-specialists, to arrange terror for politicians laughing
  13. certero
    certero 2 August 2020 21: 05 New
    +5
    Quote: Stroibat stock
    On the one hand, the Natsiks can be understood

    Yes, there were probably no Natsiks there.
    1. alpamys
      alpamys 2 August 2020 21: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: certero

      Yes, there were probably no Natsiks there.

      it is, you don’t like black people, you’re a racist, you don’t want to make an aul out of your home / country, you are a Nazi..that’s all the work, we live like this, you’ll be kicked out of work.
      The Germans are evicted from their apartments in order to settle migrants there, there are many such cases.
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 3 August 2020 01: 46 New
      0
      certero Yesterday, 21:05 NEW
      +3
      Quote: stock buildbat
      On the one hand, the Natsiks can be understood

      Yes, there were probably no Natsiks there.
      Not true. They are. Earlier on VO, and in other media there was info and photos and videos about the Nazis, with agitation on the walls in the barracks, a spell, etc. It was under Ursula, she was trying to restore order. Although, it seems to me, just for show.
  14. agoran
    agoran 2 August 2020 21: 06 New
    +2
    "The" brown plague "just vanished or left - she sits on grandma's chests and various everyday thoughts and waits for the third round .."
    Well, why brown?
    In light of recent events in the United States, a white plague is possible.
    Drive the black-asses (in the broadest sense) to the reservation.
  15. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 2 August 2020 22: 03 New
    0
    maybe they were transferred underground?
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 2 August 2020 22: 24 New
    +1
    The very formulation of the question is somewhat discouraging. People have passed all sorts of aptitude tests, passed special training and education courses in a rather rare specialty, are specialists of the elite special forces, but what views did it become clear after the investigation? I know how the Germans are handing over each other, we can assume that something happened, and then the investigation and wrong views .........
  17. lubesky
    lubesky 2 August 2020 22: 40 New
    +2
    These guys are already awaited in football "firms", the appearance in their ranks of trained specialists, angry with the authorities, may lead to a strong ultra-right tilt of some firms, now more organized. Thus, we solve the problem in one place and shift it to the simple police in another. The experience of the police is leveled by special training of new football recruits ...
  18. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 2 August 2020 23: 54 New
    +1
    KSK military reconnaissance (like the GRU brigade) - they are not intended for internal operations. At the initial three-week training, psychological tests are carried out - maybe the "tests" are outdated, have not been updated since 1991? - still "at war" with the "old proven enemy". Maybe they sent "new tests" - and problems immediately began ... the "Aryans" were recruited into the 2nd company.
  19. rotfuks
    rotfuks 3 August 2020 00: 00 New
    +2
    It seems to me that fermentation in the German special forces and in the army began long ago. A couple of years ago there were already similar reports about special forces. People there are not stupid and respond adequately to the harsh reality. Unfortunately, during the leadership of mother Merkel, life has changed a lot, not for the better. The achievements in the economy achieved during the times of other chancellors have already been eaten away and missed, unemployment has reached fantastic proportions, prices are rising, the retirement age is 67 years. The prospects are not encouraging.
  20. Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 3 August 2020 02: 16 New
    +1
    It is a pity that the article does not indicate what the essence is
    radical ultra-right ideology.

    Under the dissolution could fall as a company of secret fans of Adik, and normal men whose hands itch to intelligibly explain to various "migrants" and "refugees" about the rules of decent behavior in society.
  21. Fargus
    Fargus 3 August 2020 02: 42 New
    -1
    RAVE! Again, from state sources like ARD wrote? In KSK there is no right one. If a person is a patriot, swore allegiance to Germany and the people, and not to blacks, Arabs and Soros, is he right-seated?
    1. alpamys
      alpamys 3 August 2020 06: 57 New
      0
      Quote: Fargus
      RAVE! Again, from state sources like ARD wrote? In KSK there is no right one. If a person is a patriot, swore allegiance to Germany and the people, and not to blacks, Arabs and Soros, is he right-seated?

      here on the site it does not roll, it is written in the article the Nazis, so it is so
  22. yehat2
    yehat2 3 August 2020 04: 40 New
    0
    And this company was not by chance in Afghanistan?
  23. Esaul
    Esaul 3 August 2020 08: 53 New
    0
    as they were fascists, they remained
  24. Tank hard
    Tank hard 3 August 2020 10: 28 New
    0
    Another confirmation of the end of "Western civilization" in general and Germany in particular. The most efficient units are disbanded. In this case, the zeal of the Russian authorities and part of society to "join" the ranks of this very "Western civilization" looks somewhat interesting. Well some are unwilling to learn from the mistakes of others. request