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Finnish journalists suggested that the USSR was preparing an invasion of Finland

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The Soviet Navy possessed detailed maps of the Finnish, Swedish and Norwegian coasts. Perhaps they were used by submarines of the USSR Navy.


This assumption is put forward by the HBL newspaper from Finland.

Finnish journalists suggest that by creating these maps, the USSR was preparing to invade their country.

Stefan Lundberg, author of the HBL article, said he saw one of these maps. The owner of this rarity received it from an Estonian who allegedly took the map from the Soviet submarine base in the port of Paldiski. In addition to this, he received many detailed maps of the coast of Finland, Sweden and Norway.

The author thinks that they were used by the crews of small submarines that operated off the coast of these countries. He believes that this is happening today. In particular, the press of this country likes to write about the numerous cases of the appearance of Russian submarines in the territorial waters of Sweden.

After the collapse of the USSR, the Finns bought secret Soviet military maps in the Baltics for a pittance, where the coast of Finland was marked in great detail. The Finnish military leadership suggested that their drafting was part of the preparations for the invasion.

On the other hand, Soviet military maps depicting the territories of various parts of the world are still considered the standard for cartographers around the world. The smallest details are detailed there, down to the length of the berths, the characteristics of the road surface and the exact description of the fairways. It is unlikely that the USSR was preparing to invade almost all countries of the world at the same time ...
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 2 August 2020 15: 20
    14
    Who pays, he calls the tune .... however, maybe the "bamboo" smoked too vigorous, this also happens.
    1. Finches
      Finches 2 August 2020 15: 25
      22
      Why are we there - we are still preparing! laughing

      However, in vain Iosif Vissarionovich regretted the Finns, for the crimes of first the White Finns, and then the concentration camps during the Winter War and the Patriotic War on the territory, including Karelia, it was necessary to reach Helsinki and the "Russian" patriot Mannerheim would be pulled up on the main square!

      They study maps there - just write - the article was written by order of the State Department!
      1. gsev
        gsev 2 August 2020 17: 13
        -11 qualifying.
        Quote: Finches
        However, in vain Joseph Vissarionovich regretted the Finns,

        Thanks to this decision, Russia still has fewer problems with Finland than with other European countries. And if Stalin and his diplomats were polite and smarter in 1939, there would have been a chance to avoid the Wehrmacht's invasion of Norway.
        1. Finches
          Finches 2 August 2020 17: 15
          +3
          As the respected Supreme Commander-in-Chief once said, if my grandmother had something, she would be a grandfather ... laughing
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 2 August 2020 20: 57
            +3
            Paid journalists can assume anything. As well as inventing any lie about Stalin, Beria. There will be no answer ...
            And the answer would be worth ... And not "polonium in tea" (so only a hero will make all sorts of garbage), but the truth. The truth about these very scribblers.
            If a person agrees to this, he has, by definition, a venal soul. This means that there is a very long tail behind him. This tail is worth pulling out. So that he went to jail for a long time, or went broke on fines. And the main thing is not to hide why this is being done. Demonstrative.
            A dozen of such indicative actions - and similar publications will become much less.
            1. Finches
              Finches 2 August 2020 21: 25
              +2
              Maybe there is also a banal factor - the journalist is an ordinary fool! The editor is not better, but the people hawala!
        2. Terenin
          Terenin 2 August 2020 22: 13
          +5
          Quote: gsev
          And if Stalin and his diplomats were polite and smarter in 1939, there would have been a chance to avoid the Wehrmacht's invasion of Norway.

          You cannot deny modesty. winked Already they began to give advice to Stalin.
        3. phalanger
          phalanger 11 October 2020 23: 15
          0
          [quote = gsev] [quote = Zyablitsev] And if Stalin and his diplomats were polite and smarter in 1939, there would be a chance to avoid the Wehrmacht's invasion of Norway. [/ quote]
          And what does Norway have to do with it? In Norway, the interests of Britain, France, Nazi Germany clashed. Pay attention to the article, here, on VO * Operation "Weserubung". Capture of Norway and Denmark *
          1. gsev
            gsev 11 October 2020 23: 19
            0
            Quote: phalanger
            And what does Norway have to do with it? In Norway, the interests of Britain, France,

            An alliance of the Scandinavian countries was outlined. The Wehrmacht could not have made a successful landing in Norway if the Swedish and Finnish armies had opposed it.
            1. phalanger
              phalanger 11 October 2020 23: 21
              0
              And what has Stalin and his diplomats to do with it?
              1. gsev
                gsev 11 October 2020 23: 30
                0
                Quote: phalanger
                And what has Stalin and his diplomats to do with it?

                History does not recognize the subjunctive moods, but in my opinion there was an opportunity to avoid Finland entering the war against the USSR. I propose to take a closer look at the political forces in Scandinavia, which then stood for neutrality and an effective alliance against the aggressors. In 1944, Stalin was afraid to demand that Mannerheim leave politics, and only under pressure from the Finnish socialists forced Mannerheim to leave politics and Finland.
                1. phalanger
                  phalanger 11 October 2020 23: 41
                  0
                  Considering everything that happened in relations between Finland and the USSR from 1920 to 1940, Finland's entry into the war on the side of Nazi Germany was inevitable.
                  Also, the discussion on this topic, here in the comments on another topic, is not entirely appropriate. too big, multifaceted topic.
                  with respect ...
                  1. gsev
                    gsev 12 October 2020 10: 29
                    0
                    Quote: phalanger
                    Finland's entry into the war on the side of Nazi Germany was inevitable.

                    There are interesting memories of Elisey Sinitsyn. Stalin, pursuing his policy in Finland, overestimated the Finnish Communist Party and underestimated the Finnish socialists. If he managed to establish interaction with the Finnish socialists not in 1944 but in 1938, the war with Finland might have been avoided.
      2. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 3 August 2020 10: 51
        0
        And let's invade Finland too? Announce the entire list, please.
        1. The comment was deleted.
    2. ximkim
      ximkim 2 August 2020 15: 31
      +1
      The news is this. but the news.
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 2 August 2020 18: 13
        +4
        Quote: ximkim
        The news is this. but the news.

        News, is it in the sense that the USSR wanted to invade the whole world? Or that Soviet military cartographers were the best? Unclear. You cannot understand these Western journalists. Thirty years as the Soviet Union is gone, and they still get hot. It's good. laughing
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 2 August 2020 19: 20
          +4
          As I understand it, judging by the services and maps, Google intends to take over the entire planet?
          1. sergo1914
            sergo1914 2 August 2020 23: 39
            0
            Quote: paul3390
            As I understand it, judging by the services and maps, Google intends to take over the entire planet?


            And NASA's Moon and Mars?
        2. Hermit
          Hermit 2 August 2020 22: 51
          11
          Quote: orionvitt
          Thirty years as the Soviet Union is gone, but they still get hot

          Fear. And for a long time they will be afraid of the USSR in the west.
      2. Hermit
        Hermit 2 August 2020 22: 50
        14
        This is hardly news. I think that with such a statement, the Finnish authorities are trying to prepare the country's population for a possible entry into NATO. Like everything you can expect from the eastern neighbor.
    3. Pravodel
      Pravodel 2 August 2020 15: 51
      +3
      What is surprising, they will soon announce that a whole division of Russian paratroopers who wanted to seize the parliament and the presidential palace was caught in Finland. But the valiant Finnish soldiers fought them back, and the Russians fled towards Norway and Sweden, where they landed on their submarines and sailed to the shores of the Baltic, from where they reached the border with Russia on foot under the watchful eye of the brave Balts.
      During the battles with the Russian landing, 999% of the landing was destroyed. Finnish and other warriors did not suffer. Why there were no prisoners - Russians do not surrender. Why were there no dead and no corpses - the Russians took everyone with them in submarines.
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 2 August 2020 21: 35
        0
        What is surprising, they will soon say that a whole division of Russian paratroopers who wanted to seize the parliament and the presidential palace was caught in Finland.
        Amendment: not Russians, but Soviet ones. They still have the USSR preparing an invasion. Straight Estonians have surpassed the speed of reaction.
    4. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 2 August 2020 16: 17
      +3
      The Soviet Navy possessed detailed maps of the Finnish, Swedish and Norwegian coasts. Perhaps they were used by submarines of the USSR Navy.

      These words should be considered as a complement, and not pay attention to the fear.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 2 August 2020 17: 23
        +1
        A compliment is unlikely.
        And the fact that Finland was part of the Russian Empire, apparently, began to be forgotten.
        They didn't start making maps yesterday. hi
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 3 August 2020 08: 56
          +1
          I think that the Finns remember it well. Just what they are twitching at from this is incomprehensible to me. They lived quite separately, no one bothered them.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 3 August 2020 09: 55
            +1
            Earlier - yes, and lived like that. And the Finns, and the same Norwegians.
            But now everything is different - whoever is not with the United States is against them.
            Films are being made for the Norwegians about the invasion of Russia.
            Encouraging Finns to unnecessarily join NATO.
            Thank God, it is not free now and there is something to think about.
            The stronger we are, the more doubts there will be in NATO.
    5. major147
      major147 2 August 2020 20: 08
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      maybe "bamboo" smoked too vigorous

      But if they had enough intelligence and money to bribe someone in Roscosmos, they could buy cards with plans for the USSR invasion of Mars! belay
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 August 2020 20: 16
        +2
        Why go so deep? It can be cheaper. To slobber to the developers of shooters, so they "write" a whole epic. In color, so even in 3D .... business then!
        1. major147
          major147 2 August 2020 20: 27
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          To slobber to the developers of shooters, so they will "write" a whole epic

          So the chubby in their dreams have already "destroyed" the Kremlin in this way, this is not a sensation. Mars is another matter! lol
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 2 August 2020 21: 05
            +3
            Those who destroy their country are certainly not sorry for tsuzogo. Poor, what to take from them.
  2. Marconi41
    Marconi41 2 August 2020 15: 20
    12
    Well, where are these?
    It is the Finns who are preparing another invasion of the St. Petersburg liquor stores.
    1. Vadim Zhivov
      Vadim Zhivov 2 August 2020 15: 34
      +6
      Probably, and cards with the location of "these stores" to be snapped up ... good drinks fellow
      1. Marconi41
        Marconi41 2 August 2020 15: 37
        +4
        Quote: VadimLives
        Probably, and cards with the location of "these stores" to be snapped up ... good drinks fellow

        They know them by heart!
        1. Vadim Zhivov
          Vadim Zhivov 2 August 2020 15: 42
          +2
          Yes, let them drink better than carry any anti-Russian rubbish ... hi
  3. vavilon
    vavilon 2 August 2020 15: 23
    +3
    If we had planned, we would have done it, and everything else is chatter
  4. askort154
    askort154 2 August 2020 15: 25
    +2
    It’s the turn of the finals to put their own coin into the Russophobic western piggy bank.
  5. Observer2014
    Observer2014 2 August 2020 15: 25
    -4
    Finnish journalists suggested that the USSR was preparing an invasion of Finland
    laughing I would go to Sweden for permanent residence, that's what I need this Finland. lol What nonsense in the modern world to attack who there. Well, they attacked. Conquered. And then what? The United States won us over back in the early 90s. And what became easier for them?laughingKicking, trying. But no sense. No, I would go to Sweden with great pleasure. yes
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 2 August 2020 15: 33
      +1
      Sweden is a good country, but sad to nausea. Go there for fishing, but living there - you will die of boredom.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 2 August 2020 15: 42
        +1
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Sweden is a good country, but sad to nausea. Go there for fishing, but living there - you will die of boredom.

        I agree, sad to nausea. But Russia drive to the fullest. A month ago. Call an ambulance. Thrombophlebitis. "Doctor" Why did you decide that? I told him. Because. (Ten years ago it was) He told me. "We are not a taxi." laughing I went myself I laugh like that because I accidentally stayed alive. Floating 4 x three blood clot during the operation turned out wassat You know, this filth is just boring.! Documents are all on hand. Well, what next?
    2. mole
      mole 2 August 2020 15: 48
      +1
      Quote: Observer2014
      Finnish journalists suggested that the USSR was preparing an invasion of Finland
      laughing I would go to Sweden for permanent residence, that's what I need this Finland. lol What nonsense in the modern world to attack who there. Well, they attacked. Conquered. And then what? The United States won us over back in the early 90s. And what became easier for them?laughingKicking, trying. But no sense. No, I would go to Sweden with great pleasure. yes

      Go! wink
      Just what will you do if I come to you as a "polite colonizer"? Move over to the Finns? lol drinks
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 2 August 2020 15: 50
        -3
        Quote: Mole
        Quote: Observer2014
        Finnish journalists suggested that the USSR was preparing an invasion of Finland
        laughing I would go to Sweden for permanent residence, that's what I need this Finland. lol What nonsense in the modern world to attack who there. Well, they attacked. Conquered. And then what? The United States won us over back in the early 90s. And what became easier for them?laughingKicking, trying. But no sense. No, I would go to Sweden with great pleasure. yes

        Go! wink
        Just what will you do if I come to you as a "polite colonizer"? Move over to the Finns? lol drinks

        laughing I will gladly accept and meet laughing drinksDon't bother you will be a calm and quiet fin lol Paradox. Why so? Well, why so!? We know how to live cool everywhere except the former USSR ?!
        1. mole
          mole 2 August 2020 15: 56
          +2
          Put the vodka with lard from St. Petersburg on the table? wink
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 2 August 2020 16: 04
            -2
            Quote: Mole
            Put the vodka with lard from St. Petersburg on the table? wink

            I will put Chacha from Sochi and the half-dead spirit of Russian medicine laughing bully Let's develop the topic when my lights went out for an hour during the operation. am Should I continue to tell the truth, or will everyone shut up and listen to how it really is?
            1. mole
              mole 2 August 2020 16: 11
              +1
              Vinaigrette, borscht and dumplings, please! And you don't need chacha. I'll visit with my moonshine. laughing
              And then we'll talk heart to heart ... wink Incl. who is good in Sweden!
              1. Observer2014
                Observer2014 2 August 2020 16: 18
                -1
                Quote: Mole
                Vinaigrette, borscht and dumplings, please! And you don't need chacha. I'll visit with my moonshine. laughing
                And then we'll talk heart to heart ... wink Incl. who is good in Sweden!

                And now let's discuss what specific? My miraculous salvation, for example? You know when you are lying on the operating table. They put an infection in you from heel to groin. And they made 17 injections of the blockade. And then the light goes out For an hour !!!!. And before that, a whole series of troubles. What should I call my country? I want to go to Sweden.
                1. truck driver
                  truck driver 2 August 2020 17: 19
                  -3
                  I support, if you have such a mess, then sho already talk about Kiev, flooded with raguli, seljuk and other limit with cattle. They purposefully make the people cattle and herds. I was in Poland, I went to work in Europe, why do people live there, trust the government, are confident in the future, no one is fooling anyone, the products are of high quality, the living standards are the highest.
                  1. Observer2014
                    Observer2014 2 August 2020 17: 22
                    -3
                    Quote: LKW Fahrer
                    I support, if you have such a mess, then sho already talk about Kiev, flooded with raguli, seljuk and other limit with cattle. They purposefully make the people cattle and herds. I was in Poland, I went to work in Europe, why do people live there, trust the government, are confident in the future, no one is fooling anyone, the products are of high quality, the living standards are the highest.

                    laughing Will you throw some money on the second leg? There is a vein instead of 5mm of the normal 1.3 cm diameter. In total, they again ask for stinking 45 rubles. Or demand. I don’t understand. request
                2. gsev
                  gsev 2 August 2020 17: 30
                  +2
                  Quote: Observer2014
                  What should I call my country? I want to go to Sweden.

                  A colleague's friend moved to the USA for permanent residence. He faced American medicine and realized that when he got sick, he had to take an air ticket from the USA to Russia and fly to Moscow for treatment. It will be better for the wallet and no worse for health. And so he fell into bondage. If someone has medical problems in the West, he better not rock the boat.
            2. Reserve buildbat
              Reserve buildbat 2 August 2020 17: 46
              +1
              No need to shit on medicine. Yes, it is not perfect, but for example, in 2018, I was quickly picked up by an ambulance, they immediately performed CT (computed tomography), MRI (magnetic resonance imaging), ultrasound (and MRI was done at night), then they sent me to the intensive care unit and put me on legs in 2 weeks, after which I was sent to a rehabilitation center for another 2 weeks, and in general I spent 120 days on sick leave. Here is such a funny garbage - the second stroke in my life.
              At the same time, they did not take a ruble from me. Although I bought almost all the medicines myself after I was discharged. Count how many hundreds of thousands of dollars an American would have to pay)))
              1. Observer2014
                Observer2014 2 August 2020 17: 50
                -4
                Quote: stock buildbat
                No need to shit on medicine. Yes, it is not perfect, but for example, in 2018, I was quickly picked up by an ambulance, they immediately performed CT (computed tomography), MRI (magnetic resonance imaging), ultrasound (and MRI was done at night), then they sent me to the intensive care unit and put me on legs in 2 weeks, after which I was sent to a rehabilitation center for another 2 weeks, and in general I spent 120 days on sick leave. Here is such a funny garbage - the second stroke in my life.

                I had enough cool thrombophlebitis. To understand how your medicine differs from ours. We live in Russia. Ge Sochi. Dig in the garden for a long time the mayor laughingTo be aware of everything. All conversations are recorded. And everything can be tracked. And really check hiLet them check !!!! I hope the methodology of verification does not need to be described?
                1. Reserve buildbat
                  Reserve buildbat 2 August 2020 17: 52
                  +1
                  I live in Russia. Yekaterinburg city. This is in the Urals, if that. So you don't have to shit at all. In 2000, I also barely managed to keep my wife with purulent infectious meningitis alive. But I succeeded. And the situation has noticeably improved over these 20 years.
                  1. Observer2014
                    Observer2014 2 August 2020 18: 13
                    -3
                    Quote: stock buildbat
                    I live in Russia. Yekaterinburg city. This is in the Urals, if that. So you don't have to shit at all. In 2000, I also barely managed to keep my wife with purulent infectious meningitis alive. But I succeeded. And the situation has noticeably improved over these 20 years.

                    Live where you want. Or not, or drive as you can. I live in Russia. Ge Sochi. Here and now. And everything that I published. It is checked once or twice. Almost without my participation. In the second leg, I certainly won't reduce the diameter of the vein lol laughing
                    1. Reserve buildbat
                      Reserve buildbat 2 August 2020 18: 17
                      +3
                      Don't be rude. I wrote the truth, but you look too much like a bot that lives not in Sochi, but in Yvano-Frankivsk. Or you just eat from anal. laughing
                      By the way, as always, a cowardly little boat, ashamed to show his face, otherwise they can be forced to answer for words.
                      1. bbss
                        bbss 2 August 2020 20: 01
                        +1
                        Quote: Stroibat stock
                        By the way, as always, a cowardly little boat, ashamed to show his face, otherwise they can be forced to answer for words.

                        Yes, it looks like an "officer's daughter" ...
    3. Consul
      Consul 3 August 2020 01: 17
      11
      Quote: Observer2014
      I would go to Sweden for permanent residence, that's what I need this Finland.

      I would not go anywhere. I won't trade Russia, although it's hard to live. I do not need either Scandinavia, nor Africa with Europe
  6. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 2 August 2020 15: 26
    +2
    This is normal, the territory was considered as a potential foothold of the enemy, the foe must have had plans to deploy some kind of grouping in Finland and not have pre-emptive plans, this is a crime \
  7. HAM
    HAM 2 August 2020 15: 31
    +5
    Not otherwise, they saw the cards at Kuzmich ... The vodka was hidden so that without a map you can't find it ... this is Kuzmich, a brat, he wanted to attack peaceful Finns ... he is so ...
  8. Poetry
    Poetry 2 August 2020 15: 36
    -1
    To catch this drunk journalist in Vyborg and break his "stilts".
  9. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 2 August 2020 15: 37
    +2
    And if we consider this opus of a Finnish journalist as an advertisement for Soviet cartographers and the product of their labor, everything will not look so unambiguous. Maybe it is connected with the resource for the sale of Soviet military maps of the Western world. I saw maps of Germany in service in the GSVG, one question is how did we all know this ...
    1. Vadim Zhivov
      Vadim Zhivov 2 August 2020 16: 00
      +1
      I also saw it more than once ... But such questions did not arise ... hi
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 2 August 2020 16: 17
        +1
        Questions arose over the years when they entered the already united Germany on a steamer.
        1. Vadim Zhivov
          Vadim Zhivov 2 August 2020 16: 20
          +1
          And I was at the headquarters, a clerk. hi I saw there ..
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 2 August 2020 17: 07
            +1
            A friend of mine was a cartographer at the headquarters of the division, during night gatherings he only forbade not to drink tea on maps. hi
            1. Vadim Zhivov
              Vadim Zhivov 2 August 2020 17: 54
              +1
              Andrew you won't believe, but mine too ... But only in the headquarters on Kurt Fischer alley ... If you know, you will understand ... hi
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 2 August 2020 18: 27
                +1
                I am in Galle 35100. Much has been forgotten.81 83 communication center Kaluga.
                1. Vadim Zhivov
                  Vadim Zhivov 2 August 2020 18: 39
                  +1
                  I am in 30735 and 94268 (they are next to 5 minutes feet). The headquarters will never be demolished, he is a former German and rather an architectural object, but here is a baht. okr. I did not find it on the satellite ... 90-91 and worked a little more ... hi
                  1. tralflot1832
                    tralflot1832 2 August 2020 18: 47
                    0
                    I was 15 minutes away from military unit 61159OGV, the communications battalion, to the division headquarters. Then they took it to Totsk. Later, we disbanded many units, and my battalion too. We need to check it seems like it was restored in full strength, but this time in the YuVOkrug. All information in the open press if anything.
                    1. tralflot1832
                      tralflot1832 2 August 2020 19: 12
                      +1
                      My 27RMD turned into 21 Omsb brigade. After the withdrawal, I was marked in all city points. 12 heroes of Russia. Still in Totsk. The nerves of the Ukrainian blocherams of 14 years old. I was lucky. Accidentally found a video report of a former colleague, looked at the duty stations, much remained at that moment. Even my company saw nothing changed. According to rumors in the German barracks that we got there was a division under the command of Pauls. At the beginning of his career. But these are rumors. Our divisional commander was a Chechen. It was fun to serve especially for the second year. Remember the YearServiceSecond walk. hi
                      1. Vadim Zhivov
                        Vadim Zhivov 2 August 2020 19: 27
                        +1
                        Our 1TA has recently begun to be formed anew. Well, the former German headquarters in Dresden, so what will he have ... The walls there are so thick that it's cold in summer ... And the Germans are not fools, they will not break .. In general, some memories and a lot are beginning to be forgotten. .... hi
                      2. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 2 August 2020 19: 42
                        +1
                        So we obeyed Dresden. So I served in the 1st Panzer Army. Your call sign Lyra will not change your memory. drinks
                      3. Vadim Zhivov
                        Vadim Zhivov 2 August 2020 19: 44
                        +1
                        That's right .. And the headquarters talked about Paulusovsky ... drinks LIRA
                      4. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 2 August 2020 19: 55
                        +1
                        I never got to Dresden. In 90 I got to be repaired in Stralsund in the north of the GDR. Past the trains went to the ferry to Mukran with troops. Then only Hamburg and Bremenhaven were fishermen. drinks
                      5. Vadim Zhivov
                        Vadim Zhivov 2 August 2020 20: 14
                        0
                        In my presence, there was practically a conclusion ... In GDO, on the chairs, I saw the names of the invitees (how to seat the invitees) on the "dump" about the withdrawal of the army. It was 1991. Already there was the ZGV and not the GSVG. After that 1991 in Dresden, I somehow changed my passport for 45 years. I was tormented by explanatory writing in the passport office why I was abroad at the time of the USSR-RUSSIA ... These are the things ... hi drinks
                      6. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 2 August 2020 20: 27
                        +1
                        As if you guided me in April, the end of June '91 under repair. We managed to mark the strawberries with the girls from a certain regiment. I still remember: You shout at the Germans' side ABTRIGEN, a German comes running and takes a kulubnik and gives a coupon for receiving stamps. Worked very little 2 3 hours from 5 am. hi drinks
                      7. Vadim Zhivov
                        Vadim Zhivov 2 August 2020 20: 40
                        +1
                        And the stamps were already Western ... I did not see the GDR ones. After serving a year in the GDO and with the withdrawal home .. But sometimes I peep through the satellite. Even the houses where I lived. Renovated and like new .. And the street from the headquarters under the Elbe was brought ... drinks hi
                      8. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 2 August 2020 20: 48
                        +1
                        Marks already Germany 35 40 marks for me "lazy" for a couple of hours okay.Robredili soul tomorrow in Google I will walk around the part. drinks hi
                      9. Vadim Zhivov
                        Vadim Zhivov 2 August 2020 22: 01
                        +1
                        Good luck with Google. I also walk in former places ... sometimes ... drinks hi
  • askort154
    askort154 2 August 2020 15: 39
    +4
    askort154 .....The owner of this rarity received it from an Estonian,

    It is clear that while the Estonian was thinking what kind of card it was, it had become a rarity for a long time.
  • paco.soto
    paco.soto 2 August 2020 15: 46
    +1
    Neutral opinion: it's strange that no one said my opinion - Soviet topographers were really the best!
    In the mid-80s, during staff work, there were not enough maps, the special officer brought and carried off the cuttings. Even the idea of ​​photographing the separate necessary sectors for hunting and fishing was not even considered with sadness.
    And then: they took and bought all the cards in the Baltics.! Although now there is the Internet and everything has lost its nostalgic value.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 August 2020 15: 47
    +3
    I'm wondering. We have a lot of floating armored vehicles. That we should attack through forests and swamps. Wait until winter, and across the ice of the Gulf of Finland - straight to Helsinki. A couple of divisions at once. They won't have time to say meow ... laughing
    Zadolbali with their simplicity. And as they sit down at the tables, after the second glass, the Moscow Region evenings and Katyusha are singing ... though I heard it in Finnish. I had to be there ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 August 2020 16: 43
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And as they sit down at the tables, after the second glass, the Moscow Region evenings and Katyusha are singing ... though I heard it in Finnish. I had to be there ...


      Yes, they like our songs ...
      1. Doctor
        Doctor 2 August 2020 18: 26
        +1
        Yes, they like our songs ...

        True, they do. And in general they are normal guys.
        This is our problem. We watch a lot of zomboyas.

        1. cniza
          cniza 2 August 2020 18: 39
          +1
          Well, the zombie box exists and everyone chooses for himself what to watch, what to read ...
        2. Reserve buildbat
          Reserve buildbat 4 August 2020 18: 29
          0
          Judging by the voice, the setting of the video and the uneven step, this is not a policeman, but a singer in uniform. Although this is beside the point. I'm just boring laughing
          1. Doctor
            Doctor 4 August 2020 18: 50
            0
            Judging by the voice, the setting of the video and the uneven step, this is not a policeman, but a singer in uniform. Although this is beside the point. I'm just boring

            Both the singer and the policeman. Chief Constable Petrus Schroderus from the Finnish city of Oulu.

            In his youth, he studied singing professionally, at the age of 30 he won a national music competition, after which he was invited as a soloist to the National Opera, performed parts in classical productions, and in 2012 he went to work for the police.

            In Finland, the police officer is the most respected person who inspires absolute trust. According to statistics, police officers in Finland lead the rating of professions that are trusted by the population.

            1. Reserve buildbat
              Reserve buildbat 4 August 2020 19: 02
              0
              Thanks for clarifying hi
  • Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 2 August 2020 15: 47
    +1
    Well. And they say under the USSR there was a bad education, everything is bad. And then there is such a demand for cards!
    Maybe they can still offer the services of a pilot, for the safe pilotage of their ships to their berths ?! bully
  • Old26
    Old26 2 August 2020 16: 01
    +3
    Quote: HAM
    Not otherwise, they saw the cards at Kuzmich ... The vodka was hidden so that without a map you can't find it ... this is Kuzmich, a brat, he wanted to attack peaceful Finns ... he is so ...

    Based on this logic, I am most likely preparing personally for the capture of Belgium and the Benelux countries in general? Ask why? And I also have a rarity. My friend, who served in his time in the border aviation, flew EMNIP there after his dismissal. But then, something did not work out with the company and he finally left aviation (all the more so - the retirement age). So he gave me this card. Accurate. With all visits, etc. I give a grudge, I’m probably preparing to capture ... laughing I sharpened my knives and a hatchet ...

    Quote: Poetiszaugla
    To catch this drunk journalist in Vyborg and break his "stilts".

    And what would you achieve? You think after that he will stop writing. No, on the contrary, he will receive another prize of some kind as a victim of the "totalitarian regime" ... No, if you want to make a name for him - no one is against ...
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 2 August 2020 16: 03
    +1
    Finnish journalists suggest that by creating these maps, the USSR was preparing to invade their country.

    Therefore, after the Second World War, the USSR returned the Hanko Peninsula to Finland ahead of schedule?
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 2 August 2020 16: 14
    +2
    The USSR was preparing to invade Finland, but so that no one would guess, the plan was called "Operation Y" and the invasion had to take place from two sides: through Papua New Guinea and across the Belarusian Sea.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 2 August 2020 16: 39
      +1
      Colleague, you forgot about our missile bases in Andorra. laughing
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 2 August 2020 17: 31
        +1
        Did not forget. They are not involved in this operation. They ensure the non-interference of the Vatican. hi
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 2 August 2020 17: 38
          +1
          Brilliant tactical move! The whole world is in our pocket! good drinks
  • svp67
    svp67 2 August 2020 16: 21
    +1
    Finnish journalists suggest that by creating these maps, the USSR was preparing to invade their country.
    The USSR was preparing for a new WORLD WAR, and there are no extra cards on it ...
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 2 August 2020 16: 32
    +1
    We got infected with the Swedish disease. Those, too, are constantly at first Soviet, and now Russian submarines "see". Apparently both Sweden and Finland were bitten by one mad dog-USA. Here is just one "offense" - not a single proof has ever been provided ... And the cards bought from the Estonian? Back in 2007, I bought a DVD "Maps of the USSR General Staff" at a radio beat in Donetsk. I still have it. You can even see the house and yard of our house where I was born there. So the Finns are not inferior to Estonians in brakes.
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 August 2020 16: 41
      +3
      The United States is pulling Finland into NATO with hands and feet, hence the articles are ...
  • cniza
    cniza 2 August 2020 16: 40
    0
    The author thinks that they were used by the crews of small submarines that operated off the coast of these countries. He believes that this is happening today. In particular, the press of this country likes to write about the numerous cases of the appearance of Russian submarines in the territorial waters of Sweden.


    The hysteria continues to escalate and we've always had the best cards ...
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 2 August 2020 16: 43
    +1
    The USSR and Russia are not going to attack anyone! But I think they have good maps of the whole world. Just in case! yes lol
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 2 August 2020 16: 52
    +2
    A bit of humor. In the distant 70s, the French missile destroyer Duquesne entered Murmansk, with a ball in the middle. Stood at the seaport. The French got off the board of course without maps with the condition to hang out in the area of ​​5 corners. This is the center of Murmansk. But there was one four obviously already with some kind of map, which turned out to be in the region of Northern Nagorny, It is 12 kilometers from the center ... At that time, there were as many as devils at military facilities in Sev.Nagorny itself. Having wandered on their map, they ended up on a super secret object Mordobika (former cafe Gourmet). place of beer consumption by the local population. After a mug of the third, the French declared that they also defeated the Nazis. To which our men replied that we only recognize the British. After a little wrinkling their sides, they threw them out of the beer bar. The French generally pulled out the opportunity to navigate their map. But our men ( my father also took part in this) entered their position and so that they would not be lost anymore and returned to the ship on time, called a reliable vehicle "moons Then the lunar rovers were driven by the milliaries. 4 Frenchmen were brought aboard Duquesne before the evening check. Trophies 4 white berets with red bombs swam for a long time in a puddle against the muzzle striker until they were removed by the wipers. So you need to use only reliable maps in the unknown for you terrain. Something like this. drinks
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 2 August 2020 16: 55
    +1
    amused by the very formulation of the question ...
    and here the detailed maps of Antarctica are especially straining ... they were looking for a place for the landing to conquer the penguins ... and in general, why the details when there is Google and navigation satellites ... well, that's just for the invasion ...
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 2 August 2020 17: 34
    +2
    Lord, and who makes such journalists? Or a journalist synonymous with a fool with reduced social responsibility.?! what
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 2 August 2020 17: 44
    +1
    Have seen enough "Features of Russian fishing".
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 2 August 2020 17: 46
    +1
    "The Soviet Navy possessed detailed maps of the Finnish, Swedish and Norwegian coasts. Perhaps they were used by submarines of the Soviet Navy."
    In terms of?!..
    What do you mean possessed?!. Are they lost somewhere?
    There are suspicions that the Russian fleet has no worse than a map. Probably better. Why are so many "hydrographs" released? ...
    What are you going to do about it ?!
  • Kerzhak
    Kerzhak 2 August 2020 18: 44
    0
    How many years the USSR is gone, but they are still afraid of it and await its invasion. ...
  • sheet
    sheet 2 August 2020 19: 05
    0
    "Live where you want. Or not, or drive as you can. I live in Russia. Ge Sochi. Here and now. And everything I published. It is checked once, twice. Practically without my participation." In the second leg, I certainly won't reduce the diameter of the vein lol laughing[/ quote "
    I’ll tell you more, in Sweden it will not be reduced for you either.
    They removed a lymph node on my neck, without any tests, and looked at the table the next day. For half a year the hand did not move. The surgeon who operated on said: “what do you want? There a nerve passes nearby, maybe I touched him. "
    So come, they will cut beautifully and not free.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 August 2020 20: 46
    0
    laughing Dates, as always, consider their stupidity and stupidity to be an immutable truth. laughing"If Russia fed the limitrophes more generously, they would love her more tenderly. And fools love it for free current!" laughing

  • APASUS
    APASUS 2 August 2020 22: 37
    0
    A line has already lined up, of those whom we wanted and want to capture!
    Themselves are recorded!
  • ximkim
    ximkim 3 August 2020 05: 30
    0
    Quote: orionvitt
    Quote: ximkim
    The news is this. but the news.

    News, is it in the sense that the USSR wanted to invade the whole world? Or that Soviet military cartographers were the best? Unclear. You cannot understand these Western journalists. Thirty years as the Soviet Union is gone, and they still get hot. It's good. laughing

    They scare themselves, and the journalists will serve in the best possible way))
  • syndicalist
    syndicalist 3 August 2020 08: 07
    0
    It is now easy to find these "secret" cards on the net. Both Finnish and Russian territory. I have traveled all over Karelia from both sides of the border using these maps. And I must say that Finnish maps are much more detailed and more accurate. Especially marine ones with depth markings.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 3 August 2020 08: 33
    0
    Apparently dates have nostalgia for the good old days and orders of the Russian Empire laughing .
  • NordUral
    NordUral 3 August 2020 08: 48
    0
    Finnish journalists suggest that by creating these maps, the USSR was preparing to invade their country.

    Apparently, Russian vodka is beyond your power.
  • 1536
    1536 3 August 2020 12: 18
    0
    As far as I know, the Bolsheviks have always considered Finland as a territory where they can hide from the "arbitrariness of the tsarist secret police", and under the "late communists" this postulate did not change, until the collapse of the USSR. It is no coincidence that Finland was chosen as the place where the famous "Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe" was signed in 1975 (the Helsinki Final Act), which some Soviet cultural figures called the "Victory" of the USSR.
    Therefore, capturing Finland did not make sense either politically, militarily or economically.
    Although who cares today that there is, among other things, this same "common sense"?
  • va3610
    va3610 5 August 2020 15: 35
    0
    Finnish journalists were drunk as a lord, as usual, all dates.