Why should the citizens of Belarus make a choice without a choice?

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Why should the citizens of Belarus make a choice without a choice?

So the time has come for everyone to pour slop on presidential candidates in Belarus. You can douse it with anything. Although every voter understands that the future leader of the country and the future leader of the opposition goes the most, it is hard to believe that someone will then be held accountable for slander and dissemination of false information. Agree, it is not the last figures in any state that get it.

Everyone knew that this time would come. Prepared and saved up these same slops in nooks and caches. We saved up everything. Anyway, after the elections, no one will remember any accusations of opponents, about some mortal sins, which were told by "knowledgeable people". The one who wins will be euphoric with victory, and the one who loses will start a campaign to discredit the elections. Everything will be wrong for the loser!



In short, a situation familiar to any adult who has ever experienced an election campaign and elections of any level. Anything that will lead to victory can be poured into the ears of voters. And then there will be "even a flood after us", "after a fight they don't wave their fists" and other folk wisdom that justifies the deception of this very people. Some of the issues that were raised by my interlocutors, I want to talk today.

Why Belarus is now similar to Ukraine


Do not rush to reproach the author for not knowing the material. How can it be that Belarus and Ukraine become twins? And then there are many examples of the differences in life in these countries. I agree in advance with all your arguments. Only now it is necessary to consider not the current state of the country, but the problem of the upcoming elections. How and for whom the people of Belarus will vote.

Many of those with whom we have to communicate on the issues of the Belarusian elections have already realized that the country has been very cleverly driven into a trap. A very beautiful combination, a kind of zugzwang, which, whatever the outcome, will lead to a deterioration in life. Moreover, it turned out that those who organized this trap did not even have to invent anything. The elections will be held in exactly the same scenario as the elections for Zelensky in Ukraine.

Belarus, like Ukraine more recently, is split. One part is in favor of the current president as the guarantor of the continuation of a not rich, but rather calm and measured life. A guarantor of the preservation of, albeit difficult, but friendly relations with Russia. The guarantee that the government will not allow civil war.

The other part of the population is much more radical. “Stop sitting in a swamp”, “Belarus must become a modern democratic state” and so on. These are people who sincerely hate the current head of state. Ready to vote for anyone. The main thing for them is that the incumbent president does not become president again. They don't need a program or a plan to get out of the crisis. This is secondary.

Remember: wasn't that the case in Ukraine? Candidate Zelensky voiced his political, economic or at least some kind of program? Not. Moreover, the obvious shortcomings of Zelensky's candidacy were then called merits. Never managed anything significant? So that's good. I didn't get bad from officials! Not involved in politics? Also good. Will be out of politics! International relationships? So good that I was never interested in it. Will learn the best on the go!

Very good work of the enemies of Belarus. It is like placing two deep holes on a high-speed section of the track so that the driver has a choice. Fly into the hole with the left or right wheel. The result is still known: an accident. But the choice was ...

Who is this people?


This question is probably the most frequently encountered in conversations about political parties, presidential candidates or MPs. In general, during the pre-election campaign, a person feels himself to be the center of the universe. Or a central figure in the state. All candidates sing the praises of the people in unison and promise to solve all their problems.

Has anyone seen a future deputy who would declare in the program that he would make the life of an ordinary person unbearable? And have you seen a corrupt official who would never talk about the need to fight corruption? So how do you tell them apart? How do you identify a good candidate?

In fact, many already know the answer to this question. Just don't know what the answer is, sorry for the pun. Remember the anecdote about the granddaughter of the Decembrist and her surprise that the revolution stands for the fact that there are no rich in the country? Here is your answer.

Humanity has been trying for thousands of years to solve the problem of poverty. The state minds of antiquity understood perfectly well that it was property inequality that gave rise to anti-state sentiments. How many attempts were made to divide everything equally among everyone, so that everyone would be happy! And how did it end? Very quickly, someone became poor, having sold everything, and someone rich, having bought everything.

And this did not come from the meanness of human nature, but from the differences between people. One is smarter than the others, the other is more skilled, the third is stronger, the fourth is more cunning, the fifth ... Even the desire to work plays a role. Someone agrees to work day and night to achieve the goal, and someone only their eight hours.

Probably the only solution to this issue that mankind has come to was various versions of War Communism. Economic equality for the poor. The division of income is not according to the principle "worked more - received more", but equally for everyone. Only now the incentive to work well disappeared. This is well remembered by summer residents of the Soviet era, who, on their 6 acres, achieved harvests many times larger than on collective or state farm fields.

Let's go back to modern times. We are offered several options for solving the problem of people's poverty. Again, these are old options in a modern interpretation. No more.

First, a variant of "War Communism". Take everything away from the rich and honestly divide it among everyone. Probably the most popular option among people with a "very secondary", and sometimes with a "very higher" modern education. How many times has each of us heard this? What will happen in the future when this option is implemented, I wrote above.

Secondly, to create conditions and opportunities for people's self-realization. Make a person become a businessman. To create a multitude of almost rich people, the same middle class that was talked about a lot until recently. Alas, everyone cannot become businessmen. Scientists have proven that a fairly small percentage of people can actually run a successful business. Simply put, talent is needed. This means either a collapse for the majority, or huge investments in useless "initiatives" of pseudo-businessmen.

Third, simply stop patronizing people "unnecessary" to the state and use all means to improve the life of the middle class. True, in this case, the middle class means everyone who has a job. A kind of theory of the division of society into different people.

There are also other options for solving the problem of poverty. But they are all just imitation of work. In fact, it is impossible to make everyone happy. How, for example, to solve the problem of the homeless. Impossible simply because there are people who just like to live like this. Therefore, you just need to provide the poor with such a standard of living that corresponds to the title of a person.

Probably, in my opinion, those who propose just such a scenario are for the people. But the choice still remains with each person. Independent choice.

Can corruption be defeated?


Probably, anti-corruption issues are traditional in any country in the world. There are no countries where this phenomenon does not exist in different forms. Even where harsh regimes exist, corruption is not uncommon.

Any candidate in his electoral program necessarily declares his future fight against this very corruption. And he quickly forgets after being elected. All the struggle and all the hatred for this shameful phenomenon is manifested when law enforcement officers catch someone by the hand. By the way, this applies to any of us.

But at the same time, each of us has a friend, acquaintance, school friend, classmate who can solve some issues without unnecessary red tape. Fast and the way we would like. Quite small questions. Which we would have already decided. We just do not have enough time, we do not like to sit in lines, we have more important things to do ... So we have to call a friend.

Isn't this where corruption starts? Are we not its source? Are we not bringing our friend that very bottle of cognac as a "thank you"? And then, when a friend is successfully moving up the career ladder, are we not offended if we refuse a “small” request? Aren't we telling our acquaintances how conceited this former friend became when he became a big boss?

You have to beat corruption in your own head. Not in someone else's, but in your own. And those who are now being caught on multimillion-dollar bribes, on kickbacks, simply on plundering the state budget, are just thieves! It was the thieves who were caught late.

Instead of a conclusion


Today I feel sorry for the Belarusians. What a pity for the voters of any country where there is a pre-election struggle for a seat in the executive or legislative branch. I feel sorry for the Americans, whose heads are now being fooled by Democrats and Republicans. It's a pity simply because in the USA this crap has already caused several deaths.

Indeed, it is difficult to understand where the truth is and where the lie is. It is difficult to believe or not to believe the facts or supposed facts reported by the press. Some have lost confidence in their own choice. We, the Russians, have also gone through this many times.

I do not think that an adult who already has experience in political struggle can change by becoming a presidential candidate. He can play a role, as the artist Zelensky did in Ukraine, but he is unlikely to change. He can become "promising", but he cannot change. Therefore, it is necessary to choose not from those whom we see after all the slops poured on their heads, but from those whom we knew before the election campaign.
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  1. +23
    31 July 2020 05: 40
    Why should the citizens of Belarus make a choice without a choice?
    and why the citizens of Russia without a choice? dictatorship ... tsarki cling to thrones.
    1. +22
      31 July 2020 06: 08
      They will not choose anyone warmly or coldly - they will still work to enrich their surroundings, not the people. In bourgeois society, only bourgeois are elected, not representatives of the working people.
      1. -1
        31 July 2020 07: 13
        But at the same time, each of us has a friend, acquaintance, school friend, classmate who can solve some issues without unnecessary red tape. Fast and the way we would like. Quite small questions. Which we would have already decided. We just do not have enough time, we do not like to sit in lines, we have more important things to do ... So we have to call a friend.
        The whole meanness of this approach and this "friend" is that it turns out to be profitable and profitable for the "friend" to throw red tape with queues in his area of ​​responsibility, because in this way he maximizes his personal income. And the harm is done to society. And this harm can be greater than the petty bribe that the "friend" collects with his help.
        1. 0
          4 August 2020 11: 30
          But at the same time, each of us has a friend, acquaintance, school friend, classmate who can solve some issues without unnecessary red tape. Fast and the way we would like. Quite small questions. Which we would have already decided. We just do not have enough time, we do not like to sit in lines, we have more important things to do ... So we have to call a friend.

          Well done here, the author of the article! For this alone I give him a plus sign. I even encountered it myself: they dragged a familiar person out of the isolation ward. And then the same person was indignant: oh, how badly high-level officials act by stealing millions and billions :) I wonder if he thought that he himself used a service from this category and was pleased with it? Do you, dear readers of the site, use this, notice it? Just notice, I ask you, but tell your friends.
          Corruption is not about "rotting from the head", corruption is about "rotting in one place, going in all directions." So, as the dear author said, one must fight corruption first of all in one's own head.
          And the harm is done to society. And this harm can be greater than the petty bribe that the "friend" collects with his help.

          I think the nature of corruption is in this. There are official procedures, strict adherence to which should ultimately help to take everything into account and do it right. Compliance with them is beneficial to society as a whole. But your official friend is too lazy to observe them, because it takes a long time. And you don't want to wait until he observes everything. Therefore, you agree by mutual agreement that you will not comply with them. And you give your friend a "thank you", part of which he will then spend on not being noticed ... Everyone is happy, everyone benefits. Except for society as a whole. But what is your small bribe of a couple of hundred rubles for a huge society, right? wink
          PS Under "you" absolutely any person can be mentioned, it is NOT at all necessary that it is YOU!
      2. +17
        31 July 2020 07: 27
        ... will still work to enrich his environment ..
        NOW in Belarus, the treatment of cardiology, oncology (operations) is free.
        What will happen if the government "changes"?
        1. +6
          31 July 2020 08: 41
          Quote: smphantom
          .
          NOW in Belarus, the treatment of cardiology, oncology (operations) is free.
          What will happen if the government "changes"?

          What will happen, what will happen? .... Will you bring to hospitals - bandages, syringes, cotton wool, medications ... Or who will hope for the EU and lace panties?
          1. -15
            31 July 2020 11: 26
            Quote: Nasr
            Quote: smphantom
            .
            NOW in Belarus, the treatment of cardiology, oncology (operations) is free.
            What will happen if the government "changes"?

            What will happen, what will happen? .... Will you bring to hospitals - bandages, syringes, cotton wool, medications ... Or who will hope for the EU and lace panties?

            Do you like liberals lace panties, why only advertise your favorite underwear to everyone? request Also tell me that you are not a liberal, all who are for this power of the oligarchies are all liberals! To hang you all like a Christmas tree garland ... am
            1. +3
              31 July 2020 12: 35
              Are you going to hang it yourself, or can you comment on it from the sofa?
              1. -10
                31 July 2020 18: 36
                Quote: kot28.ru
                Will you hang yourself?
                I was not afraid of the kind of dirty work, and this one went hunting with my great pleasure ... tongue
                1. 0
                  4 August 2020 12: 59
                  went to the video call Pilot?
                  You will see the one you want to hang. And I'll look at you, warrior
                  Suddenly I will motivate you, otherwise you have only been dreaming wetly for a couple of decades
          2. +4
            31 July 2020 20: 39
            And now they carry bandages, syringes and cotton wool. And only officials are treated free of charge and without a queue. They built a special hospital for themselves.
            1. 0
              3 August 2020 21: 41
              But you are not writing the truth ...
              Why pour dirt on the country?
      3. +12
        31 July 2020 08: 56
        Quote: UrraletZ
        They will not choose anyone warmly or coldly - they will still work to enrich their surroundings, not the people. In bourgeois society, only bourgeois are elected, not representatives of the working people.

        Of course, it is very convenient for yourself to paint everyone in white and red. But life is much more complicated. Among the capitalist countries there are also quite socially oriented ones, with very low corruption, with power freely replaced by the people at elections. Likewise, among the socialist countries there are extremely poor, with an irreplaceable authoritarian regime. It does not happen that today they have chosen some kind of system and immediately began to live well. There are many factors that affect this.
        The people are tired of the cockroach. Yesterday in Minsk there was a grand rally of Tikhanovskaya fellow This has not happened for over 20 years. More than 60 thousand people came, despite all these intimidations with the detention of Russian citizens.
        STOP THE COCKROACH! FREEDOM FOR POLITICAL PRISONERS!
        1. -1
          31 July 2020 09: 45
          Quote: mdsr

          The people are tired of the cockroach. Yesterday in Minsk there was a grand rally of Tikhanovskaya fellow This has not happened for over 20 years. More than 60 thousand people came, despite all these intimidations with the detention of Russian citizens.
          STOP THE COCKROACH! FREEDOM FOR POLITICAL PRISONERS!


          At one time the people were tired of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union ... and more than 60 thousand people gathered for rallies ... There were also a lot of loud slogans, but now the comrades are unanimously "drowning" for returning to the USSR .... hehe ...
          1. +18
            31 July 2020 10: 11
            Quote: Nasr
            At one time the people were tired of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union ... and more than 60 thousand people gathered for rallies ... There were also a lot of loud slogans, but now the comrades are unanimously "drowning" for returning to the USSR .... hehe ...

            Again a lie. The people were for glasnost and change, but not for the collapse of the country. In a referendum, an absolute majority of the people voted for the preservation of the USSR.
            1. -5
              31 July 2020 10: 18
              Quote: mdsr
              Quote: Nasr
              At one time the people were tired of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union ... and more than 60 thousand people gathered for rallies ... There were also a lot of loud slogans, but now the comrades are unanimously "drowning" for returning to the USSR .... hehe ...

              Again a lie. The people were for glasnost and change, but not for the collapse of the country. In a referendum, an absolute majority of the people voted for the preservation of the USSR.

              In in ..., and in Belarus now, no one is in favor of the collapse of the country ... everyone is drowning for change !!!! hehe .. History teaches that it does not teach anything!

              However, ... in Russia, too, they are drowning for such changes ... and so that tomorrow they will heal differently! laughing
              The Ukrainians drowned the same for the changes - they achieved, healed "better" ... bully
              1. +10
                31 July 2020 10: 48
                Quote: Nasr
                and in Belarus now no one is in favor of the collapse of the country ... everyone is drowning for change !!!! hehe .. History teaches that it does not teach anything!

                What kind of countries are these if they can exist only under dictatorship and poverty, and any changes and changes in power lead to collapse?
                1. -8
                  31 July 2020 11: 03
                  Quote: mdsr
                  What kind of countries are these if they can exist only under dictatorship and poverty, and any changes and changes in power lead to collapse?

                  Soviet.
        2. -1
          31 July 2020 10: 06
          Yesterday in Minsk there was a grandiose meeting of Tikhanovskaya fellow. This has not happened for more than 20 years. More than 60 thousand people came, despite all these intimidations with the detention of Russian citizens.

          Show me a place in Minsk that can accommodate 60 people? )))))
          At the elections before last, according to Euronews, they showed a picture that 30 people took to the streets and the entire Independence Avenue was packed with people. I rushed there to see this miracle - in fact, there are no more than 000 people.
          So here too - a maximum of 10 people, there was not only Tikhanovskaya's performance, but the concert was also in the Friendship of Peoples Park. So they showed the supposedly extras ...
          1. +9
            31 July 2020 10: 32
            Quote: lucul
            that 30 people took to the streets and the entire Independence Avenue is packed with people. I rushed there to see this miracle - in fact, there are no more than 000 people

            What a fine fellow you are, it turns out. Personally go and count love .
            Quote: lucul
            So here too - a maximum of 10 people, there was not only Tikhanovskaya's performance, but the concert was also in the Park of Friendship of Peoples

            Did you know that singers almost always perform at rallies? Who organized the concert? What did the people chant? And, for your information, even the authorities counted 35000 people, and you are three times less. Probably yesterday they also PERSONALLY counted everyone lol... Don't stop, keep watching the opposition smile
            1. -3
              31 July 2020 10: 59
              And, for your information, even the authorities counted 35000 people, and you are three times less.

              This is for the whole day)))
              We have the same number of people attending Tanker Day))))
        3. -1
          31 July 2020 12: 38
          Opachki, so you are an international protest :))) And against Putin, and against Lukashenko :))) Go against Yanukovych, too, jumped :)))
        4. +2
          1 August 2020 10: 38
          Please voice the entire list, about the capitalist countries with "freely replaced by the people in the elections of power."
          The spirit of the rebellious eyes and thoughts obscures.
          1. 0
            1 August 2020 10: 59
            )))
            Wherever it is not possible to transfer power to the "successor". That is, the institution of succession to the throne has not been introduced.

            From the former USSR - Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, suddenly Kyrgyzstan.

            The Institute of Successors, in turn, operates in Belarus, Russia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan (in Belarus, for now, the father is his own successor).

            Moldova is a separate case, there is something like a gentry (non-electoral democracy / oligarchy).

            What is the question?
            1. +2
              1 August 2020 14: 50
              About Ukraine in more detail! There have been five presidents. Isn't it?
              1. 0
                1 August 2020 14: 56
                Quote: Mikhail Alexandrov
                There have been five presidents

                6, 7th acting Turchinov.
                Quote: Mikhail Alexandrov
                And the result?

                You see, not every nation deserves to choose between Konrad Adenauer and Kurt Schumacher. Some have to choose from Mr.'s varieties, not only Ukrainians.

                And some have one variety for life. How old were you in 1999? What will be in 2036?
                1. +1
                  1 August 2020 15: 28
                  And what does age have to do with it ???? Was 45 ... If you mean that Power needs to be changed, I agree, but! With a big reservation! That this elected "power" would not be populists and not varigam, like a lesha anal ....
                  1. 0
                    1 August 2020 15: 43
                    Quote: Mikhail Alexandrov
                    , was not populists and not varigat, like the lesha anal ...

                    Well, you know, who will give you such.
                    Quote: Mikhail Alexandrov
                    If you mean that Power needs to be changed

                    When the idea of ​​rotation of power was conceived in ancient times, it was believed that the next government would plant thieves from the previous one, and thus contribute to a healthier atmosphere. On the example of Ukraine, we see that this is not necessary - Tymoshenko was imprisoned, they want to imprison Yanukovych, but not for theft... They steal everything as always, under any president. Somewhere too prayerful.

                    This is not only a Ukrainian problem, the same has been happening in Latin America for a very long time. But in / in Ukraine it manifested itself very prominently.
                    1. +2
                      1 August 2020 17: 56
                      That is, the turnover of power is not a panacea? smile
                      1. +2
                        1 August 2020 18: 22
                        Of course not. No amount of power change guarantees that you will not choose, say, Jimmy Carter.

                        However, in general, the countries where there is turnover are developing better. For the obvious reason - where turnover is not guaranteed, but optional, a good leader is likely to leave in due time, a bad leader will try to stay, and a criminal leader will stop at nothing to stay - otherwise death or prison. That is, negative selection is programmed.
                    2. -2
                      1 August 2020 18: 49
                      Quote: Octopus
                      When the idea of ​​rotation of power was conceived in ancient times, it was believed that the next power would put thieves from the previous one,

                      You have a superficial intuitive interpretation. The rotation of the executive branch is no side to the planting. At least because the thieves are imprisoned by the judiciary, which is not elected and is not subject to rotation.
                      1. 0
                        1 August 2020 19: 00
                        Quote: Liam
                        The thieves are oppressed by the judiciary, which is not elected and is not subject to rotation.

                        )))
                        Anyone who is imprisoned or executed is the power to which the power structures are subordinate. As for the court, in the discussed cases of crimes of the supreme power, it does not work - people who write their own laws can break them only because of their innate inclination to hack, as we see in Russia. With sufficient discipline, laws will either not be violated, or all criminals will be amnestied in a timely manner, as when Franco left in due time.
                      2. -1
                        2 August 2020 00: 24
                        You cheat)
                        Rotation of power is not a panacea. There are still a lot of things that democracy does not turn into a cheap mockery of the letter and spirit of laws.
                        The rule of law is due not to the chosen people of the people, but to the faceless gray mass of officials who are not elected by anyone, called the bureaucracy, from the judiciary to the military. in a few years, for the whims of which you should not risk your place, and not the eternal leaders of nations who will be at the top of the decade and who need to adapt to.
                      3. 0
                        2 August 2020 01: 10
                        Quote: Liam
                        Power rotation is not a panacea.

                        Yes of course.
                        Quote: Liam
                        but the faceless gray mass of bureaucracy not elected by anyone called the bureaucracy - from the judiciary to the military

                        Not quite. Initially, law and court (like voting) are the most economical instrument for balancing the interests of several armed and well-organized parties. This tool is not universal (see Yorkie, Lancaster, Lincoln), but it covers the vast majority of conflict situations.
                        Quote: Liam
                        And the rotation of power is just a way for this very bureaucracy to see in these chosen ones

                        Thus, you exclude from democracies any parliamentary republic where the maximum term of one party in power is not limited. The CDU / CSU has been in power for 20 years in a row, Coll has been in power for 16 years, and Merkel has been in power for 15 years.

                        I would not mix politicians and bureaucracy. These are different, in many ways antagonistic forces. When the bureaucracy manages to get into politics, as in the USSR / Russia, this is a huge disaster.

                        On the other hand, in recent decades there has indeed been a strong erosion of democracy, so that the word has lost its meaning. Actually, its collapse began in 1973, guess what event.
        5. 0
          3 August 2020 21: 44
          I was not there, but as a resident of the Sovetsky District and who has known this park since childhood, I can responsibly say from drone pictures that there were no more than 25.000.
    2. +2
      31 July 2020 07: 42
      Quote: Dead Day
      and why the citizens of Russia without a choice?

      Name the Russian presidential candidate who was jailed during the election campaign. Just do not cite Navalny as an example ... It's amazing how he walks freely even without participating in elections. And if the applicant is simply not convincing, then what is the power of fault? We have about 50 parties in Russia. None are prohibited. Some, for example, only communist and related programs, more than five typed. What is the fault of the authorities that they cannot merge into one? The political picture of the country cannot be changed by mere chatter ...
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        31 July 2020 10: 20
        Quote: Hagen
        Name the Russian presidential candidate who was jailed during the election campaign.

        And who puts their own. And they do not allow strangers, and they themselves will not risk so as not to sit down.
      2. +11
        31 July 2020 16: 34
        For example, the mayor of Yakutsk is Sardana Avksentieva. Here are some of her actions as mayor that spread throughout the country.
        1. Sold 4 elite SUVs of the Administration. With the proceeds from the sale of luxury cars, the mayor's office purchased a special vehicle for a social taxi.
        2. Fired an official for wasting a million rubles on a New Year's banquet.
        3. Canceled the production of a one-time ballet for 1,5 million rubles. Sardana said that she respects the work of Charles Adolphe Adan, however, the sphere of culture and art education of the city has more serious problems and issues that need to be addressed urgently. Therefore, it is better to spend this money on an art school or library.
        4. Refused to spend 800 thousand rubles on a visit of a fashion designer. The mayor of Yakutsk said that spending 800 thousand on a fashion designer and a show is a big overkill, if you really want to make a show of fur products, then you should attract local producers. And to support their manufacturer, And to create an incentive for them to work. Part of the money saved on unnecessary pathos, in the form of an expensive show of fur coats, was used to purchase 45 air purifiers for primary schools in Yakutsk.

        And the investigative committee and the prosecutor's office immediately became interested in her. Coincidence? I don't think so).
        1. 0
          1 August 2020 10: 51
          Such a mayor and the burgomaster would not hurt us in Finsterwald.
          But about "corruption", especially for a rich person, it always seems that for people like him, all kinds of laws are a restriction of freedom for his talents.
          Creative people cannot live and create within the framework of some laws, which, moreover, are imperfect.
    3. -11
      31 July 2020 08: 21
      Quote: Dead Day
      and why the citizens of Russia without a choice?

      Who told you that?



      The fact that the people voted for Putin, for stability, only indicates that other candidates had nothing to offer (about the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - this is generally something). I hope that the Belarusians will vote for stability - this is better than incomprehensible changes.

      "People are never satisfied with the present and, having experience with little hope for the future, adorn the irreversible past with all the colors of their imagination." A.S. Pushkin
      1. 0
        1 August 2020 14: 59
        Totally agree with you! good What can they, all these "parties" offer ???? Except for slogans, NOTHING! The Communist Party has become just a prostitute who does not need power, it is more convenient for her to be in opposition and not be responsible for anything ... Alas ...
    4. +1
      31 July 2020 08: 32
      The author regrets the Belarusians ...
      Does he spare us, citizens of Russia? Or do most of those who go to the urns (I have given up this practice for seven years now) have a choice?
      1. +4
        31 July 2020 08: 50
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        (I gave up this practice for seven years now) have the right to choose?

        You voluntarily renounced this right for seven years already. So you shouldn't worry about the choice that those who came and voted for you made.

        You do not agree?
        Then offer another way to find out the opinion of the people (maiden - do not offer).
        1. +1
          1 August 2020 11: 40
          Quote: Boris55
          Then suggest another way to find out the opinion of the people

          There is a "duplicate vote", in some polling stations to check the real voting, separate ballot boxes are installed in the corridor and asked to vote as they actually voted. The Commission has no access, only the public. And they open them much earlier than general ones. From experience, the discrepancies when correctly calculated do not differ significantly.
      2. 0
        31 July 2020 12: 49
        It sounds funny. Refused to choose and groans that others CHOOSE the wrong one for him. Don't bother about massive stuffing and so on. Even your unwelcoming media and observers always agree that, in general, elections are held without significant violations. he gets off and votes.
      3. 0
        1 August 2020 15: 34
        "refused" .... So what do you want ???? People like you do not choose, you refused ..... Although, I think your "candidates", like a lesha anal, all one is not passable ... .There are more smart people in RUSSIA smile
    5. 0
      31 July 2020 09: 18
      Quote: Dead Day
      Why should the citizens of Belarus make a choice without a choice?
      and why the citizens of Russia without a choice? dictatorship ... tsarki cling to thrones.

      The capitalists need stability ... they want to rule and plunder in a stable way .. And the capitalists cannot come to an agreement, larger capital will swallow small capital, Belarusians do not need this, but our capital does not need an independent Belarus. Capitalism cannot unite, it unites only in order to plunder together .. In the end, if nothing changes, Belarus will be torn away from us and there will be another Ukraine.
      1. -6
        31 July 2020 10: 03
        Quote: Svarog

        The capitalists need stability ... they want to rule and plunder in a stable way .. And the capitalists cannot come to an agreement, larger capital will swallow small capital, Belarusians do not need this, but our capital does not need an independent Belarus. Capitalism cannot unite, it unites only in order to plunder together .. In the end, if nothing changes, Belarus will be torn away from us and there will be another Ukraine.

        Ultimately, dad must unite with Russia and no one will tear it off! And the nonsense of Marxism-Leninism should not be sculpted where geopolitics is!

        Quote: Svarog

        and our capital does not need an independent Belarus.

        This should have been told to the Czechoslovakians in 1968.
        1. 0
          1 August 2020 01: 43
          Quote: Nasr
          And the nonsense of Marxism-Leninism does not need to be molded where geopolitics is

          Admirers of corporatism (fascists) and communists, socialists are easy to recognize in relation to the sciences of geopolitics and political economy. Yes, sir?
          Quote: Nasr
          This should have been told to the Czechoslovakians in 1968.

          To emphasize the level of suffering it is necessary to write to CZECHOSLOVAK. By the way, who should tell more to Czechs or Slovaks? As if from 93 this country has not.
    6. AUL
      +5
      31 July 2020 10: 28
      From the first lines of the article, I understood what moral the author will voice at the end. And I was not mistaken.
      Today I feel sorry for the Belarusians. What a pity for the voters of any country where there is a pre-election struggle for a seat in the executive or legislative branch.
      1. +4
        31 July 2020 10: 55
        Quote from AUL
        From the first lines of the article, I understood what moral the author will voice at the end. And I was not mistaken.
        Today I feel sorry for the Belarusians. What a pity for the voters of any country where there is a pre-election struggle for a seat in the executive or legislative branch.

        I subscribe to your words. And, here, I will post a video with a cool song from the rally. Let the pressure of the author and the putriots rise from anger and envy lol
    7. -6
      31 July 2020 11: 47
      is it possible for Belarus to build an original and independent state from the outside world? Relying on friendly China is possible.
      The low standard of living of the average Belarusian stems from the wrong approach of the political leadership of the country. Lukashenko wants his enterprises to be at the world level and have always been sold abroad. But abroad they do not allow Belarus to enter European markets in bulk of their goods, machines, tractors and other equipment. And the quality of Belarusian goods leaves much to be desired, industrial goods, and agricultural products in Belarus are of good quality.
      Belarus needs to stop taking foreign currency loans for Western equipment and focus on CREATING its own production, its own machine park and means of production. It is not necessary to buy machine park at a frantic interest, but rely on its own inventions - engineers and create, first of all, for itself.
      We need to pay off all loans and stop being dependent on the West and live for ourselves. Choose several main directions and be ahead of the rest in these areas. For example, electric cars, in Belarus they have been talking about this for a long time, but they cannot make their BATTERY yet.
      It is necessary to monitor overpopulation and prevent an uncontrolled increase in the number of people, but this land of Belarus can always feed the 9 million people.
      1. +4
        31 July 2020 15: 13
        What machine park ?! What equipment? The last couple of factories are dying, the rest have died long ago, what kind of engineers ?? What the fuck is an electric car? Here for a long time already it is not that new, old can not do.
        What is overpopulation? We are dying out shock.
        Frank manilovism, dear, unfortunately ...
        1. 0
          31 July 2020 16: 59
          Quote: Gost2012
          The last couple of factories are dying, the rest have died long ago, what kind of engineers?

          what are you, as you fell from the moon, Belarus has quite modern equipment and they make good equipment.



          https://auto.vercity.ru/statistics/production/europe/2019/belarus/maz/
          1. 0
            31 July 2020 20: 47
            What good technique are they doing here? MAZ? Belkommunmash? Gomselmash?
          2. 0
            1 August 2020 08: 09
            Quote: Bar1
            Quote: Gost2012
            The last couple of factories are dying, the rest have died long ago, what kind of engineers?

            what are you, as you fell from the moon, Belarus has quite modern equipment and they make good equipment.

            https://auto.vercity.ru/statistics/production/europe/2019/belarus/maz/

            yes I live here ..
            but you seem to be somewhere. MAZ has been living on state subsidies for a long time. Without state support, he is a corpse at once, and so slowly decomposes.
            1. +1
              1 August 2020 12: 36
              Quote: Gost2012
              Without state support, he is a corpse at once, and so slowly decomposes.

              prove, about subsidies, what are your facts?
          3. 0
            1 August 2020 11: 34

            Look for data for 2005-2011!
            During this period I worked for MAZ. Then they produced 20000-25000 pieces per year.
            And now it is three times less. Here are the results of Lucanomics!
    8. +1
      31 July 2020 12: 27
      Quote: Dead Day
      and why the citizens of Russia without a choice?

      It is necessary to choose not from "politicians", but from statesmen with an organizational structure, capable of setting a goal, formulating tasks and organizing its achievement. If there are no such statesmen, then there are no elections. In my opinion, Belarus has no choice, because the old scheme of existence has been exhausted, and there is no development resource of its own.
    9. 0
      1 August 2020 16: 41
      No, they will not be able to nullify the president's term and rebuild the Constitution without a dog. They are lagging behind in this from what the foremost workers can do against the backflakes.
    10. 0
      2 August 2020 04: 59
      And what are the worthy candidates who, a week after the elections (binge on the occasion of the holiday), will not run to "build relationships" with the "Partners"? Therefore, there is no choice ... And it is not necessary to talk about the "conspiracy" and blah blah blah ...
    11. -1
      3 August 2020 19: 48
      The reason is simple. Belarusians are surrounded by capitalist countries, and one has two eagle heads on one body.
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  3. +4
    31 July 2020 06: 10
    Rock paintings in primitive caves were the first depictions aimed at hammering people's heads with false events and facts. Since then, little has changed. The Belarusians, apparently, believed that it would be better for them if they sever all ties with Russia and the Russians, watching ads for gum and anti-dandruff shampoos. Or do they think that they will join the "friendly family of European nations"?
    And the question is that now having arrived in Belarus, you can be sure that you can be arrested right on the street or in a hotel simply because you have a Russian passport and a green T-shirt? Then I recall the words of the great Nikolai Ozerov: "We don't need this kind of hockey!"
    1. +23
      31 July 2020 06: 37
      Quote: 1536
      The Belarusians, apparently, believed that it would be better for them if they sever all ties with Russia and the Russians, watching ads for gum and anti-dandruff shampoos. Or do they think that they will join the "friendly family of European nations"?

      Believe me, only populists are talking about breaking ties with Russia! belay In fact, the vast majority of Belarusians understand that everything rests precisely on ties with Russia, the vast majority still have brains and they see that friendship with Yauropai is possible only on favorable terms for Yauropa ... And this is the road to nowhere. Yauropa will simply destroy what is left. For that there will be a lot of "democracy". And what is Western democracy - everyone also knows very well ...
      Therefore, the vast majority of Belarusians simply do not want that the power would not have both various pro-Western huskies and remnants of the Brezhnev era ... request
      And it is wrong to ascribe the opinion of the “candidates” to Belarusians. No.
      Politics is always a dirty business, and before elections it is also hypocritical Yes
      1. +7
        31 July 2020 07: 00
        Quote: Rurikovich
        I just don’t want to

        Damn, I just want to read feel that would not be .... It seems not a two-player, but I admit such bloopers recourse
        1. -7
          31 July 2020 09: 23
          Yes, your comment is unpleasant to read. It seems that you are writing everything correctly, but why are you distorting the word "Europe"? Is this the meaning of some deep ??
      2. +7
        31 July 2020 07: 28
        Andrei Nikolaevich, please name at least one presidential candidate who advocates preserving the union treaty with Russia ... Tikhonovskaya? So she speaks directly about breaking the contract. The only one who did not cover this issue is Lukashenka. But I did find militants from Russia ..
        We respect the Belarusian people. But you were simply put in a position where you have no one to choose from. You, these are those who advocate an alliance with Russia. The scenario of the struggle of the Ukrainian people against the dictatorship of Poroshenko is played out very beautifully ... That's all
        1. -2
          31 July 2020 08: 57
          It's incredible. Do I understand you correctly that pro-Poroshenko articles began to appear on VO? It seems like quite recently the Roshenka party was considered a war party, and the defeat party was Zelensky and Benya.
          1. 0
            31 July 2020 13: 40
            Quote: Octopus
            Do I understand you correctly that pro-Poroshenko articles began to appear on VO?

            Do not pretend to be an ignoramus. The article speaks only of a completely identical model for the selection of presidential candidates. And about Poroshenko ... VO differs from other publications in that even materials of ideological opponents can be printed. Go to opinions and read ...
        2. +10
          31 July 2020 09: 19
          Quote: domokl
          Please name at least one presidential candidate who advocates the preservation of the union agreement with Russia ... Tikhonovskaya? So she speaks directly about breaking the contract. The only one who did not cover this issue is Lukashenka. But I did find militants from Russia ..
          We respect the Belarusian people. But you were simply put in a position where you have no one to choose from.

          Excuse me, but who put them in this position? Are the State Department and Brussels again? Who removed Babariko and Tsepkalo, who were once pro-Russian, from the elections? Tsepkalo fled to Russia, and Babariko is in prison. Why don't you mention your last names? Who drove the people to such despair? Why is the Union Treaty just a piece of paper not implemented in life? Who is hindering the integration of Russia and Belarus? Lukashenka is the person who is guilty of all this.
          1. -2
            31 July 2020 13: 46
            Quote: mdsr
            Excuse me, but who put them in this position?

            And is it important? Do you want to read Lukashenka's last name? The point is not in the incumbent president, but in the opposition itself. One of the reasons why we have liberals in the Dupa is precisely their pro-Western nature, an orientation toward the complete collapse of everything Soviet. We already went there in the 90s and so far, unfortunately, we have not forgotten, but we will soon forget. The 60-70s will die out and that's it ...
            And the Belarusians, like the Ukrainians, were lucky. There, due to some secondary nature for the West, quiet states, the 90s were less bloody. Here is the result today ..
        3. +7
          31 July 2020 13: 00
          Quote: domokl
          you have simply been put in a position where you have no one to choose from.
          Where there is a vertical of power, there is no one to choose .. The ruling power is doing everything so that there is no alternative to him. This is for Belarusians, for you, and for Us .. And what will this lead to? There is nothing good ... Alas, but this is an action hi
      3. +14
        31 July 2020 07: 52
        I agree.
        It is popular to explain that a country without 100 million citizens, energy resources and industry cannot be Independent .... It is necessary to return to Mother Russia ... due to the location of hard work .... would live among the best regions of a huge country.
        Many people talk about this and agree ... others just haven't thought about it yet.
        1. +5
          31 July 2020 09: 02
          Quote: Soviet Union
          It is necessary to Return to the composition of Mother Russia ...

          To your regret, Belarusians travel to Smolensk, Vilnius and Warsaw in about the same way. So many may well compare how the people who left are doing, how those who stayed are doing.

          And many have compared.
        2. 0
          31 July 2020 10: 28
          Quote: Soviet Union
          I agree.
          It is popular to explain that a country without 100 million citizens, energy resources and industry cannot be Independent .... It is necessary to return to Mother Russia ... due to the location of hard work .... would live among the best regions of a huge country.
          Many people talk about this and agree ... others just haven't thought about it yet.

          Great returnee, but how are you going to return it ?, with the help of tanks, planes / helicopters ?, Ali, polite people?
          Or all should show by personal example that Russia is the best place on planet Earth, that Russia is the country for which one wants to work, work and work again; where every citizen is a friend, comrade and brother; where ... first think about the Motherland, and then about yourself ... ''.
          There are a lot of writers here, but for some reason, many do not have very good memories ... After all, it was Russia that sent Belarus and the rest of the republics to free and independent swimming, that's not necessary about ,, ... rabbits, elephants and alcoholics ... ''
          I have always treated and treat the people of Russia with respect, after all, we are all RUSSIAN.
          And about the choice that needs to be made to us on August 9th. Many here write about a certain apposition. We don't have it in Belarus, 200-300 people who went out to play / have fun, I think, were on the satisfaction of the Supreme Commander himself. That's what I think ...
          And yesterday's 63 thousand Citizens are ... you, he, she is my Motherland ... ''
          And I ask you to notice not a single detention yesterday, and why is this figure comparable to the entire personnel of the Internal Troops and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. and their `` point '' is not iron, however, like everyone else.
          And now about the conspiracy theory: Imagine that there is a fight during this peaceful rally, well, 16 versus 17 young people and how could it have ended? So I don't know ...
          And yet I believe that I will live to see the times when we will be together again and ... every citizen has the right to be elected, please note everyone, but not everyone ...
          Best regards
          1. -3
            31 July 2020 12: 12
            Quote: Skalendarka
            And I ask you to notice not a single detention yesterday, and why is this figure comparable to the entire personnel of the Internal Troops and the Ministry of Internal Affairs

            Perhaps they were, infa will come up later. A lot of carts were overtaken.
        3. -5
          31 July 2020 12: 10
          Quote: Soviet Union
          It is necessary to Return to the composition of Mother Russia ...

          We'll manage it somehow, thanks.
        4. +1
          31 July 2020 13: 49
          Quote: Soviet Union
          It is necessary to Return to Mother Russia ... due to the location of hard work .... would live among the best regions of a huge country.

          A very controversial conclusion. What does the union state dislike? When is it all together, but sovereignty is preserved? Of course, I want to enter the same water. Only this does not happen ... Especially under capitalism ...
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          2. +1
            1 August 2020 14: 12
            Quote: domokl
            What does the union state dislike?

            probably because the model of Russia is not attractive for Belarus request
            They sit and think: why change the eternal Lukashenka for the eternal Putin?
        5. +2
          1 August 2020 11: 47
          "would live among the best regions of a huge country"
          Can you give examples of which regions are these?
          For Moscow, the rest of Russia is a colony.
          And the elite of a huge country is more attached to Europe than to Russia.
          If a referendum was held in Russia on leaving a country whose power serves the interests of the oligarchs, the majority would be in favor of leaving.
      4. +3
        31 July 2020 08: 38
        Quote: Rurikovich
        Only populists are talking about breaking ties with Russia!

        Some kind of strange statement. Populists say what people want to hear, that's why they are populists.
        Quote: Rurikovich
        what is Western democracy - everyone also knows very well ...

        Quite. Before the quarantine, they rode to Vilnius by electric trains and buses, like St. Petersburgers in Helsinki. Note that back to the theme park of the USSR, lovers of the Russian language from Lithuania, suffering from Euro-fascism, skated far less often.
        Quote: Rurikovich
        the vast majority of Belarusians understand that everything rests precisely on ties with Russia

        This dad did not carry out systematic work. 10 years of the power of the nationalists - and 4/5 will know that Belarus lived 200 terrible years under the Moscow occupation, and that these lands are the soul and heart of the ON, one of the most democratic states of medieval Europe.
        1. -3
          31 July 2020 08: 54
          Quote: Octopus
          heart and soul ON

          Radziwills castle, Minsk region

          Palace of the Radziwills, Warsaw.
          1. +5
            31 July 2020 10: 18
            This is a new building according to the drawings near Minsk, and in Warsaw the original. Near Minsk - not history, but an attraction
            1. +1
              31 July 2020 10: 32
              You are partly right, the restoration of the Belarusians is a little in the Luzhkov style.

              But the context is important. In addition to the Belarusian partisans and VIA Pesnyary, Belarus has another "spare" past, which Lukashenka keeps, so to speak, in the background (Nesvizh castle was rebuilt quite during the father's day), and another government may well make the main one. Now it is impossible to believe in it, but Belarus became part of Russia along with the right-bank Ukraine and the future Bendera, with the same partition of Poland, 150 years later than the left-bank Ukraine.
        2. 0
          31 July 2020 15: 21
          Here many, and without systematic work, believe that they are feeding Russia and she owes them. Especially common among 50+ generation. To the question of why this would be answered incomprehensibly.
          1. +3
            31 July 2020 16: 30
            This is a universal rule. Moscow believes that it subsidizes the regions, the regions - that Moscow is robbing them. One of the disadvantages of "brotherly" relations.
      5. +2
        31 July 2020 19: 03
        Quote: Rurikovich
        Only populists are talking about breaking ties with Russia!

        Actually, this is Tikhanovskaya's program.
      6. 0
        3 August 2020 15: 13
        Quote: Rurikovich

        Believe me, only populists are talking about breaking ties with Russia!

        How the old smelled on me! How he threw off eight years! They said the same in Ukraine in 2012-2013 and even in the winter of 2014! And then again! And glass eyes: “I want to stink of zagarbati! Aggression! Occupant! Russian viisk on the cordon! Moskovskiy OMON firing on the Maidan! "
        All this has already happened! Not so long ago and not so far!
    2. 0
      31 July 2020 07: 28
      ... The Belarusians, apparently, believed ...
      Where are such conclusions from?
  4. +14
    31 July 2020 06: 22
    Well, those Belarusians who want changes can also be understood. Even we were fed up with such "stability" with Putin and Edr. As Khabarovsk residents chant on the streets - "twenty years, no trust." It is clear to whom ... wassat
    All right, wait, the stabiles will run in, they will sketch out the minuses ... tongue
    1. +9
      31 July 2020 07: 02
      Well, that's the difference between the Soviet and anti-Soviet people on the territory of the USSR. The Soviet people have always had and still have FOR for their country and people, while the anti-Soviet people have only stupid, spiteful, irrational AGAINST. As the Russian anti-Soviet people in Perestroika were for Yeltsin, to be AGAINST the communists, as in Ukraine they voted not for Zelensky, but AGAINST Poroshenko, as now in Belarus they want to impose some "oppositionist" in order to be AGAINST Lukashenko. And the anti-Soviet people do not care that those whom they impose on the country and the people represent themselves.
      1. +1
        31 July 2020 07: 40
        Quote: tatra
        Well, that's the difference between the Soviet and anti-Soviet people.

        Bravo Irina! You explained the main idea of ​​the material much more concretely than I did.
      2. +13
        31 July 2020 09: 07
        If the majority of the people are willing to vote AGAINST the current government, then who is to blame?
        Isn't this power itself?
      3. -2
        31 July 2020 09: 34
        They formulated it in a strange way.
        1. Zelensky's victory was precisely the victory of the Soviet people.
        2. You are absolutely right, Soviet people walk in formation, sing in chorus and vote with their hearts. Anti-Soviet people vote in a lot of ways, so they always lose to the Soviets in elections.

        Accordingly, any post-Soviet country needs some kind of unifying idea that would create a broad front against the compromisers. Hatred of the USSR is the most rational choice. For postcolonial countries, this is more than natural.
    2. +3
      31 July 2020 07: 33
      You shouldn't be talking about your colleagues. Minus-plus is an indicator of interest in your opinion. But what can and should be understood by the people of Belarus hit the bull's eye. But did anyone have a doubt that a dictatorship does not last forever? We understand perfectly well that the dad played too much, felt like a king.
      I mean that the situation was turned in such a way that there is practically no choice. Wherever you throw, everywhere a wedge. That Lukashenka turned his nose away from Russia, that his opponents in the elections
      1. +10
        31 July 2020 08: 50
        Quote: domokl
        Wherever you throw, everywhere a wedge. That Lukashenka turned his nose away from Russia, that his opponents in the elections

        The second face of Belarus Makei is the country's main Russophobe. That's the bottom line. Miracles do not happen ...
    3. +10
      31 July 2020 07: 49
      Quote: Beringovsky
      Even we were fed up with such "stability" with Putin and Edr.

      In due time, the communists got it. The power has changed, now pouring tears in chorus for Soviet times. Such is human nature ... to do something first, and then think - why ?!
      1. +2
        31 July 2020 09: 28
        Is it necessary to change the power? Two terms (if they are re-elected for the second) and free up the seat. It does not mean at all that with the arrival of a new leader, the country's course will radically change
        1. +1
          1 August 2020 21: 05
          Quote: Dangerous
          Two terms (if they are re-elected for the second) and free up the seat.

          What are the names of those who could now claim a place at the head of the country and manage the country with dignity? And besides, I see no reason to limit me and 70% of the population in their desire to choose the one whom I consider possible to choose. This norm in our state does not reflect an urgent need and was imposed by "external" forces during our weakness.
          Quote: Dangerous
          It does not mean at all that with the arrival of a new leader, the country's course will radically change

          But the new president does not need to change the course, you can show weakness, and the course of our country's policy will be changed by external players, is it really not clear ?!
      2. -1
        31 July 2020 10: 39
        Quote: Hagen
        Quote: Beringovsky
        Even we were fed up with such "stability" with Putin and Edr.

        In due time, the communists got it. The power has changed, now pouring tears in chorus for Soviet times. Such is human nature ... to do something first, and then think - why ?!

        Something tells me that the perestroika superintendents (members of the CPSU), and not the communists, did their best, and these are two big differences ...
        1. 0
          1 August 2020 21: 12
          Quote: Skalendarka
          Something tells me that the perestroika superintendents (members of the CPSU), and not the communists, did their best, and these are two big differences ...

          Tell me how to distinguish some from others? Moreover, the process did not begin in the late 80s, but in the mid 50s. In the 80s, the Politburo was already practically formed by an organized criminal group - outside the law and the original ideology.
      3. +1
        1 August 2020 11: 58
        By the 80s, real communists had already died out. Especially considering the Civil and the Great Patriotic War, where the real communists had only one privilege - to die first. And before Perestroika, the country's elite were careerists and opportunists who came to the party only for privileges. So they pedaled Perestroika and the fall of socialism in order to increase their privileges and legitimize the ownership of the means of production that they controlled.
  5. -4
    31 July 2020 06: 26
    And in Russia, he eats, yes
    ? Is it possible to change the government? Quite hastily the "referendum" was given to Russia by the autocratic tsar ...
    1. +7
      31 July 2020 07: 36
      Quote: bagatura
      the "referendum" was given by Russia by the autocratic tsar ...

      Who voted in the referendum? Is it not the people of Russia? Didn't the people make their choice? All these eternal "songs about the main thing" about vote rigging and incorrect counting do not need to start. I'm tired of it. The outcome of the referendum is the opinion of the majority. It is the majority, not the entire people. This is called democracy ...
      1. +1
        31 July 2020 09: 06
        Quote: domokl
        Didn't the people make their choice?

        Yes, in the elections to the constituency.

        As Cecil Rhodes said about young democracies, one person, one vote, one time.
      2. +1
        31 July 2020 09: 14
        Quote: domokl
        Didn't the people make their choice?

        Sasha, are you not funny yourself? How many people you know personally went to vote? In percents? And how much for?
        There are very few friends among my friends, and even those are against. But we choose friends according to their interests, and this assessment is not entirely objective, I understand that.
        But at work, less than half of the team went to the "vote", and only one (!) Was in favor. This is already objective.
        And yes, Sasha - you shouldn't call a simple poll of the population a referendum. wink This is the semblance of democracy, nothing more. They are trying to convince us that something depends on us, but at this time they shamelessly change the basic law of the country to please the ruling elite.
        Maybe in Belarus, democracy is no better, but they have a better state system. For they have state capitalism, while ours is oligarchic-feudal. hi
        1. 0
          1 August 2020 12: 03
          I assure you state capitalism is no better. It also exploits workers unscrupulously. And they cannot influence it in any way. With formal state ownership of the means of production, there is a constant privatization of profits.
          Profit ends up in the pockets of officials and squalid businessmen, and the people receive only costs.
          1. +2
            1 August 2020 17: 05
            Quote: Sergey Viktorovich
            It also exploits workers unscrupulously.

            For the good of the state. Which, with proper management, contains the entire social sphere. China has proven the effectiveness of a hybrid economy when, with the right approach, two systems coexist, socialism and capitalism. hi
            1. 0
              2 August 2020 17: 06
              If really for the good of the state, then this is socialism. But this has nothing to do with Belarus. Everything there is for the benefit of a small group.
              1. +1
                2 August 2020 20: 04
                Quote: Sergey Viktorovich
                Everything is there for the benefit of a small group

                Which Belarus has mansions in London? wink Where are the benefits of that small group?
                1. 0
                  5 August 2020 09: 48
                  In Landons, no. There they can press the testicles if that. But apparently there are assets in the UAE and Qatar. It was not for nothing that Lukashenka, by decree (and even without justification to the citizens), transferred several large plots of land to the royal family of Qatar for hunting grounds.
                  https://realty.tut.by/news/expertise/544841.html
                  https://belaruspartisan.by/life/475492/
                  There are also stories related to the supply of sanctions to Russia, the opaque trade in oil products from Belarusian refineries (I think this is the real reason for the picks with Russia over oil, the division of the margin), and much more.
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIBlrk0MAzA&t=6s
                  1. +1
                    6 August 2020 07: 37
                    Quote: Sergey Viktorovich
                    But apparently there are assets in the UAE and Qatar

                    I have concrete facts that Russian civil servants own property there. Do you have any facts (!) That Belarusian officials have property there? Facts, not assumptions? I don't think you have them.
                    The United Arab Emirates and Qatar are controlled by the United States, and the Pendos would have been pinned down long ago with a bulbash. hi
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                      1. 0
                        6 August 2020 12: 28
                        Quote: Sergey Viktorovich
                        only very careful statements.

                        And so they lure to the dark side of the force.
    2. +2
      31 July 2020 13: 01
      Does it bother you so much? In one of the European (?) Countries, what kind of bagatur is concerned about the fact that the people of Russia do not want another president?
      1. +1
        31 July 2020 13: 48
        I have care, no! Just one question .... Of the 145 million Russians, Putin is one for all? Only him, and no one but him? Isn't there a country of great quality people? Rzecz Pospolita in Ruski option with a ruler for life? What can Russia offer to the countries of Eastern Europe as a development matrix, a competitor to the EU? One-person management (dictatorship), kleptocracy of the oligarchs, life at the expense of natural resources? Thank! They did not understand ...
  6. +1
    31 July 2020 06: 34
    And it reminds me of our 1991. In Minsk, more than a hundred thousand people took to the streets in defense of Tikhanovskaya. Our representatives are there, and Lukashenka’s headquarters resembles the Emergency Committee. How they will unfold the situation is unknown.
    1. +3
      31 July 2020 07: 25
      But father, a desperate business executive, will not chew snot like Vitka. and it is not obvious which direction to tick all the ends cut off if the batch starts. I have a bad feeling
      1. +3
        31 July 2020 08: 09
        As Belarus, I can tell you that Luka is a uniquely talented leader. What he does not undertake - everything falls apart ...
        1. +1
          31 July 2020 09: 36
          Quote: ZhorikVartanov
          I, as Belarus, will tell you what

          I am the daughter of a naval officer laughing

          Quote: ZhorikVartanov
          a uniquely talented leader. For what he does not undertake - everything falls apart ...

          And how has Belarus not collapsed yet? laughing
          1. +4
            31 July 2020 12: 15
            Quote: Boris55
            And how has Belarus not collapsed yet?

            Because the kind uncle Vova fed with very cheap oil, which the cunning uncle Luka loved very much to drive abroad at exorbitant prices. And now the tap was closed.
        2. +2
          31 July 2020 10: 41
          Quote: ZhorikVartanov
          As Belarus, I can tell you that Luka is a uniquely talented leader. What he does not undertake - everything falls apart ...

          And did you notice it?
          But, he is still playing the accordion ...
    2. -1
      31 July 2020 13: 07
      There were not hundreds of thousands there, no need to lie. And a coalition of three women gathered about 60 thousand. Moreover, all three seem to be competitors or the wives of competitors, but, as in Russia, "fighters for everything good against everything bad" :)) )
  7. +5
    31 July 2020 06: 38
    With a friend like Luke, Russia can no longer look for enemies. He only sucks money from us irrevocably, but all that worries him is his personal power. And you can be sure that he will also cross over to the West and be received there with open arms. Don't believe me? In vain. Everyone forgives the enemies of Russia.
    1. -4
      31 July 2020 07: 04
      He only sucks money from us irrevocably,
      Ish a tick that sucked you personally. And I live in Russia, I have management companies. Sobyanin ran out of money, again yesterday they were angry about the muzzles. Do not give out for free, buy.
    2. +4
      31 July 2020 07: 04
      Nobody sucks more than our effective managers from Russia.
      1. 0
        31 July 2020 08: 26
        Well, let’s also burglars enclose you for complete happiness! laughing
        How do you not understand that this is not a friend, but a parasite? Well, the USSR was not enough to feed all kinds of shobla, and where is all this money now?
        1. -1
          3 August 2020 17: 31
          When the United States stops feeding its parasites, they will also start looking for a new owner, this is the lot of all small states. You think they are bastards and traitors, but they just want to survive and prevent a catastrophic drop in the standard of living of the population.
  8. 0
    31 July 2020 06: 48
    So the time has come for everyone to pour slop on presidential candidates in Belarus.
    ..... But in Russia everything is not so, therefore the country is the fifth economy in the world, unlike the Belarusians and Ukrainians, everything is different here, even according to the adopted amendments: Russia by God's grace is a secular state .. smile
    1. 0
      31 July 2020 07: 45
      Quote: parusnik
      But in Russia everything is not so

      Oh, Alexey ... I wonder why you need this? You understand very well that in Russia NOW everything is really different. So it will be before the next elections to the Duma. And now we are off-season. Khabarovsk is not counted simply because there the people themselves got confused against what and for what they are protesting ...
      1. +1
        31 July 2020 08: 04
        Of course, we are smarter, we are better than Belarusians and Ukrainians, Americans ... if you don't have pots, our ideology is patriotism, we clenched our teeth, led by parties and the government headed by the president, are building a new, mighty Russia, "so that everyone would tremble, that would be respected "(c) .. And soon we will build ... by God's grace, a new secular, most democratic state .. Of course, in Khabarovsk, it's funny ... Pans began to divide property, and the people have nothing to do with this property , for one of the lords stood up for defense ... not understanding why the fuss ... Although, you can understand the people in Khabarovsk, the lords, during their showdowns, spit on the people in the soul ... So they got up ...
        1. 0
          31 July 2020 13: 56
          What does the mind have to do with it? We just don't have elections this year. Although, before the referendum, it also smelled of a very decent latrine.
          1. +1
            31 July 2020 21: 16
            What does the mind have to do with it?
            .... Indeed ... ah, yes, there are no elections, no mind ... You can put on the shelf before the elections ... But how will the elections come from the shelf ... smile Although, before the referendum, it also smelled of a very decent latrine..... And after that, it smelled of roses ... smile Let's wait for the Federal Law on the State Council, let's see what the smell will be ...
  9. +3
    31 July 2020 06: 55
    Honored to the author (+) for writing. Yes
    Why should the citizens of Belarus make a choice without a choice?

    And why are the citizens of Belarus better than the citizens of Russia? This is, apparently, our fate: either make a choice without a choice, or simply ignore these events.
    Today I feel sorry for the Belarusians. What a pity for the voters of any country where there is a pre-election struggle for a seat in the executive or legislative branch.

    I feel sorry for any people who live in a state system where the rights are spelled out (or not spelled out at all) only on paper. Ugly feeling of hopelessness.
    Indeed, it is difficult to understand where is the truth and where is the lie. It is difficult to believe or not to believe the facts or supposed facts reported by the press.

    And it is also difficult to vote for candidates where unequal candidates are deliberately put forward and when there is no column against everyone in order to exclude further attempts to stage such performances (shows). It is disgusting to look at the choice of 450 deputies, when it becomes mathematically clear that in order to become a deputy (to receive one mandate), it is enough to collect only 0, 22222222 ...%, but according to the law invented (I forgot the name ") In the bowels of the government, you need to gain at least 5% !!! belay This is a strange decision, if not a criminal one. That is why the majority in the DG appears in an understandable way. For if the party won 4% of the votes, then go to the bathhouse, and we will give 16-17 seats to the people we need ... Yes
    Some have lost confidence in their own choice.

    What confidence can we talk about when even the adopted law on elections is not respected? What confidence can there be that the bag is not a cat, but an ingot of gold?
    Forgive me, but let Arkady Isaakovich (by the way, one of the many to whom I have true respect) say again:
  10. -3
    31 July 2020 07: 08
    And we have a choice here - just heaps.
  11. -4
    31 July 2020 07: 11
    Indeed, it is difficult to understand where the truth is and where the lie is. It is difficult to believe or not to believe the facts or supposed facts reported by the press. Some have lost confidence in their own choice. We, the Russians, have also gone through this many times.
    .... I mean, stepped on the same rake? smile
    1. +1
      31 July 2020 07: 48
      Exactly. Years of devastation came and received. They voted with a heart instead of a head ...
      1. -1
        31 July 2020 08: 13
        And what, something has changed ... The head grew, but the heart stopped, froze? .. About the devastation ... was there another "Tatar-Mongol" invasion? Chickens stopped rushing, cherries bloom, wheat ears? Whose horses trampled it down and whose hand with an ax rose trees to cut and cut chickens? I did not vote with my heart on the principle: vote or lose ... In 1996 it was the last time, I understand. that they are all in the same boat and rowing together, literally and figuratively ...
        1. +6
          31 July 2020 09: 02
          Quote: parusnik
          About devastation ... was there another "Tatar-Mongol" invasion?

          When the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR declared independence, almost all economic ties with the former Soviet Union were severed. The factories, etc., stopped, the people survived as best they could. This was done by our Soviet deputies, to the very tailbone, with party tickets from the CPSU in their pockets.
          1. -1
            31 July 2020 10: 06
            And with what talented people EBN and VVP brought life together - whoever you look at, all the successful entrepreneurs and business tycoons. And all with party cards, including the above ones ... And now, by God's grace, a new social, secular, democratic state is being built. .. laughing
  12. +3
    31 July 2020 07: 32
    The waters are the sea. The general message is - what a pity for the poor Papuans.

    A person who collects explosives against his country, who gives orders to knit everyone in a row, cannot be president. I just really don't want to give up power.
    1. +2
      31 July 2020 10: 01
      Oh, oh - can you publish such an order with the personal signature of the AHL ??? Knit all in a row, whistle all up !!! Or where did the AHL gather BB against their country?
      What nonsense ???
      1. +4
        31 July 2020 12: 22
        Quote: maksud13
        can you publish such an order with the personal signature of the AHL ???

        Those. his direct words are not enough? He said that he would not tolerate the pot-bellied bourgeoisie, and a day later Viktor Babariko and his son were arrested during the submission of signatures.

        He said that he would not tolerate "these * curse words *" and the next day Tikhanovsky was knitted in Grodno by the guardsmen from Minsk. For daring not to answer the question of the lady of easy virtue bought by the authorities. There is a video, don't worry. Only the courts do not care. We already have courts taking 5 minutes.

        A week later, he said directly "Yes, I gave the order to knit Tikhanovsky, but what?" All information is in the media from his speeches, the truth cannot be cut out.

        Or a recent one about the militants from July 24th? "We know how the Maidans begin, if there are not enough of our own Maidan, so they bring in all sorts of bandits, foreign PMCs."
        And now they catch 33 Russian "militants".

        Or are you all God's dew?
        1. +1
          31 July 2020 15: 30
          Don't even try. People have a cult of Lukashenka, but for some reason they are in no hurry to move to Belarus.
        2. +2
          31 July 2020 17: 40
          Or a recent one about the militants from July 24th? "We know how the Maidans begin, if there are not enough of our own Maidan, so they bring in all sorts of bandits, foreign PMCs."
          And now they catch 33 Russian "militants"


          It's simple: Lukashenka is the Chosen One
          The only Chasny humanoid in the Galaxy
          Therefore, he sees the ALL Truth and you cannot deceive him

      2. -1
        31 July 2020 19: 56
        "The king is good, the boyars are bad!" Hmmm ... Something familiar. I've heard it somewhere.
  13. +10
    31 July 2020 08: 10
    Brothers Belarusians are now being treated from all sides.
    1. -3
      31 July 2020 12: 53

      Brothers Belarusians now

      Who are they brothers?
      Westerners?

      In the Belarusian press none does not call Russian brothers
  14. -2
    31 July 2020 08: 19
    Belarus is not like Ukraine at all.
    Belarus is like Russia in 2024.
    1. -1
      31 July 2020 10: 48
      Quote: Courier
      Belarus is not like Ukraine at all.
      Belarus is like Russia in 2024.

      ... and there is still time for you to draw the necessary, or rather the correct conclusions. It's better to learn from other people's mistakes.
    2. -3
      31 July 2020 10: 59
      Quote: Courier
      Belarus looks like Russia in 2024

      Optimistic.

      But it's hard to believe. In this sense, it is easier for small countries.
  15. -4
    31 July 2020 09: 01
    The citizens of Belarus are a new generation of Belarusians who are alien to the cockroach and Russia. They often travel to Lithuania, Poland, the Czech Republic, they want to be part of Europe
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    2. +6
      31 July 2020 09: 59
      Uncle Izya, I also travel to different countries, but somehow I don't really want to become a part of Europe.
      Why? Yes, because there will be no freebies and milk rivers in Europe - no one needs us there. Or we will need it as a camp for immigrants from Asia, for example ...
      1. -3
        31 July 2020 17: 14
        To each his own
    3. -2
      31 July 2020 10: 49
      Quote: Uncle Izya
      The citizens of Belarus are a new generation of Belarusians who are alien to the cockroach and Russia. They often travel to Lithuania, Poland, the Czech Republic, they want to be part of Europe

      Izzy, go eat matzo ...
      1. -3
        31 July 2020 17: 14
        Are you vodka
    4. -5
      31 July 2020 12: 29
      The citizens of Belarus are a new generation of Belarusians who are alien to the cockroach and Russia. They often travel to Lithuania, Poland, the Czech Republic, they want to be part of Europe


      Flag in hands and a drum on the neck
      Exit over there C
      (Their appetites are European, they can't earn money, they don't know how to fight and don't want to - do we need them like that?)
      1. -4
        31 July 2020 17: 15
        Lukashenka say thank you, the Kremlin fed him, not the people
        1. -3
          31 July 2020 17: 38
          Lukashenka say thank you, the Kremlin fed him, not the people


          Belarus - is it independent, "independent" or "kind of independent but not fact"?
          1. -4
            31 July 2020 17: 46
            Independent countries can be counted on the fingers like 4 countries
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    1. -3
      31 July 2020 09: 36
      You can promise ... but do something like doubts ..
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        1. +2
          31 July 2020 09: 56
          Yes, I'm really against it. Although I live in Russia, my wife is from Minsk. Rodney in Belarus sea. And all this mess is there, somehow in the family, our pain is given.
    2. +3
      31 July 2020 09: 56
      How did you all get this information that the AHL "quietly hates the majority of the population" ?? Big is 97%? Which intelligence agency told you? OBS?
      Yes, many are unhappy with the AHL, I have not been satisfied with it lately and sometimes infuriates me ... But about all the words about hatred, hang, shoot, etc. - smells very bad ...
      1. -1
        31 July 2020 10: 15
        Good bye Sasha - 3% !!!

        1. -4
          31 July 2020 17: 38
          60% of the cockroach population support, there is nothing to be done
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        1. 0
          31 July 2020 12: 24
          Quote from rudolf
          And by the way, I have never heard the words to hang, to shoot in Belarus.

          For we hear them only from the lips of the president. About Maidan and executions.
        2. 0
          31 July 2020 17: 39
          Do you yourself believe that?
          The siloviki are for him, collective farms are also 85% of women for him, by the way, and their 65% are the population of the republic
      3. -1
        31 July 2020 11: 02
        Not so simple good good
    3. -1
      31 July 2020 10: 49
      And the more the Kremlin holds on to Lukashenka, the more it repels ordinary Belarusians from itself.


      The Kremlin has not been holding on to Lukashenko for a very long time ... For 12 years already ...
      1. -2
        31 July 2020 17: 43
        In Israel, Netanyahu has 15 years of total experience, Merkel also sat up too long, Putin. In Ukraine, the chairman was recently elected, but to no avail. It may turn out to be a cockroach, and some sort of Pozdnyak horseradish radish is not sweeter
        1. -1
          31 July 2020 17: 45
          It may turn out that the cockroach will be thrown off and some kind of Pozdnyak will come, horseradish radish is not sweeter


          Any other politician would be better.
          Even Makei ...
          Anyone, even the devil with horns ... bully
          1. -2
            31 July 2020 17: 48
            Yes, Makei is a clever former Soviet officer, he took the country out 2 times under sanctions, and the third time he said it wouldn’t work. Golovochenko, the current prime minister, is also not bad for the role of President
  17. -1
    31 July 2020 09: 25
    Vote with your heart, vote otherwise you will lose, there is no alternative ... it's time to get used to these slogans. The longer Lukashenko clings to power, the more pressure in the boiler grows. Someday the boiler will explode. The problem is that Russia will not just let Belarus go. .the emergence of a second country, such as Ukraine, she does not need. that means either she will have to support her beloved, but obstinate daddy, or promote her protege. but this time it seems to be late
    1. -2
      31 July 2020 10: 40


      Something like this ... request
      1. 0
        31 July 2020 11: 20
        Quote: Olezhek
        Something like this ...

        Again the fist raised up to lower the country down?
        1. -1
          31 July 2020 17: 42
          Again the fist raised up to lower the country down?


          The main thing is to omit (in a good way!) One pensioner of republican significance ...
      2. +1
        31 July 2020 17: 44
        Well, this is not serious, it does not pull on Catherine II, it is rather weak
    2. -1
      31 July 2020 17: 50
      Everyone loves power
  18. +4
    31 July 2020 09: 52
    Quote: Rurikovich
    Quote: 1536
    The Belarusians, apparently, believed that it would be better for them if they sever all ties with Russia and the Russians, watching ads for gum and anti-dandruff shampoos. Or do they think that they will join the "friendly family of European nations"?

    Believe me, only populists are talking about breaking ties with Russia! belay In fact, the vast majority of Belarusians understand that everything rests precisely on ties with Russia, the vast majority still have brains and they see that friendship with Yauropai is possible only on favorable terms for Yauropa ... And this is the road to nowhere. Yauropa will simply destroy what is left. For that there will be a lot of "democracy". And what is Western democracy - everyone also knows very well ...
    Therefore, the vast majority of Belarusians simply do not want that the power would not have both various pro-Western huskies and remnants of the Brezhnev era ... request
    And it is wrong to ascribe the opinion of the “candidates” to Belarusians. No.
    Politics is always a dirty business, and before elections it is also hypocritical Yes

    And this is not about the statements of "proxies" of some candidates who want a paranoid to rule your country. The point is that citizens of Russia are being detained without any reason, and they are also talking about their extradition to a third party. What is this? This "general majority" wants that? Or does the general majority have their brains on and off? Have you ever thought that if there is a really adequate response from Russia, you might not like it very much?
  19. +4
    31 July 2020 09: 58
    Many of those with whom we have to communicate on the issues of the Belarusian elections have already realized that the country has been very cleverly driven into a trap. A very beautiful combination, a kind of zugzwang, which, whatever the outcome, will lead to a deterioration in life. Moreover, it turned out that those who organized this trap did not even have to invent anything. The elections will be held in exactly the same scenario as the elections for Zelensky in Ukraine. So we will follow the same path, the longer the GDP clings to power, the deeper the fall will be, only Sobchak will be chosen instead of Zelensky, we will laugh to tears. And the problem is not in the opposition, it is weak, but in the government, which itself passes all the opposition's trump cards. Navalny set up locks for Medvedev, no LADIES did everything himself, the authorities commit crimes themselves, and the opposition only just pokes her at her. And yes, neither Navalny nor Sobchak will take care of us, it will only get worse.
  20. -1
    31 July 2020 10: 38
    Tens of thousands of people, tears, songs, dreams of change: how the big rally of Tikhanovskaya took place in Minsk. Briefly
    Read more: https://news.tut.by/society/694815.html
  21. +4
    31 July 2020 10: 47
    Alexander is right that Belarus is now similar to Ukraine. Only it is necessary to compare, perhaps, not with Zelya, but with Yanyk-vegetable. He was also going to "compete" with the Nazis in popularity, for which he "lifted" them like Lukashenko. But he was a fool and chickened out at a crucial moment, they threw him off and drove him away. What the determined Luke would never allow!
    And there are no candidates "for the people": Lukashenka cut off such candidates at a very early stage.
    The arguments about the people's guilt for corruption are also not true. As Grishka Melekhov said in "Quiet Don": "If the bitch doesn't want, the dog won't jump up."
    And the Belarusians - yes! - It's a pity: they have a VERY poor choice, either a tyrant who has played with independence, or pro-Western nationalists. In ANY case, the country will face little good and inevitable degradation.
    1. -3
      31 July 2020 11: 02
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      In ANY case, the country will face little good and inevitable degradation.

      I, unlike you, respect the Belarusians more. Intelligent people, no worse than the Poles. Only less fortunate.
  22. 0
    31 July 2020 11: 11
    Quote: Octopus
    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
    In ANY case, the country will face little good and inevitable degradation.

    I, unlike you, respect the Belarusians more. Intelligent people, no worse than the Poles. Only less fortunate.

    In Ukraine, the people (despite the "enlightened opinion" of many very "smart" and "literate" "experts") are no less intelligent than the Belarusians, Russians and Poles. But they were much less fortunate with the rulers than the Russians were with Putin, whom lovers of Poles and other Europeans fiercely hate and abuse. And I respect Belarusians no less than you who are in awe of Poland and the Poles.
    1. -3
      31 July 2020 11: 21
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      no less intelligent than Belarusians, Russians and Poles. But much less luck with the rulers

      Hard to say.

      What was unlucky - perhaps yes, but more or less - time will tell. By the way, are you aware that the minimum wage in Ukraine is higher than in Russia? Although the whole country is, of course, poorer?
    2. -2
      31 July 2020 17: 43
      In Ukraine, the people (despite the "enlightened opinion" of many very "smart" and "literate" "experts") are no less intelligent


      It's good that we don't baptize children with them ... Yes
  23. +3
    31 July 2020 11: 24
    From article to article, Staver grows not as a military expert, which he really has the right to be called, unlike many, but as a skilled political observer. There are no accusations, no sarcasm, only a statement of facts and a parallel with the results of "fidgeting on a long bench", which was in the neighboring, until recently, calm and friendly country.
    Those who are really worried about the future of a friendly people, which has not become a reality of the Union State, can decide for themselves how to comment - to regret to be indignant, to look for the guilty. Others, on the contrary, openly gloat, triumph and try on Russia. But all this, within the framework of their own illusions and delusions, real and imaginary experiences, attempts to project the article in the desired or given direction.
    It is for this, the author, and thanks! There are not so many materials in the headings "Analytics" and "Opinions", which, with bitter irony, can be recommended for reading to everyone - without restrictions on age and mental state.
    1. -3
      31 July 2020 13: 34
      which was in a neighboring, not long ago calm and friendly country.
      Those who really care about the future of a friendly people


      I highly recommend asking how Belarusians feel about Russia
      You will be very surprised.
      1. +3
        31 July 2020 14: 56
        Mostly positive.
        1. -4
          31 July 2020 16: 04
          Mostly positive.


          If we mean the readiness to live at the expense of Russia and “to condemn its aggressive foreign policy from a universal human point of view,” then yes - the Belarusians have a positive attitude towards Russia.
          1. -1
            31 July 2020 16: 06
            When Russia will allocate 100% of the budget to the treasury of the Republic of Belarus, then we can talk about living at the expense of Russia. What kind of "aggressive foreign policy from a universal human point of view" is this? War in Syria or Ukraine?
  24. +2
    31 July 2020 11: 44
    Quote: Octopus
    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
    no less intelligent than Belarusians, Russians and Poles. But much less luck with the rulers

    Hard to say.

    What was unlucky - perhaps yes, but more or less - time will tell. By the way, are you aware that the minimum wage in Ukraine is higher than in Russia? Although the whole country is, of course, poorer?

    FULLY aware of EVERYTHING! Because, unlike you, I exist in this "beautiful" "happy" "European" (where you are trying hard to drag the syabrov) to the hole of thieves and Bandera! And therefore your political education, dear daughter of an officer, is simply ridiculous to me!
    1. -3
      31 July 2020 13: 10
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      I exist in this "beautiful" "happy" "European" (where you are trying hard to drag the syabrov) holes of thieves and Bandera!

      Well, it's a long way to beautiful, happy and European (and, frankly, not in the direction where Ukraine is going now). As for the thieves and Bandera's supporters, the Bandera's supporters would suit me - Stepan Andreevich was not noticed in theft. But so far there are mostly thieves on the menu.
  25. -1
    31 July 2020 12: 06
    What a lie in the article. Again, comparisons with Ukraine begin, the division of the country into for Luka and against, Maidans.

    Again about a peaceful and stable, again about sent opposition and so on. And these are just the first words of the article! There is no desire to respond to this at all. Do you want the truth? Ask any Belarusian NOT an official or security officer.
  26. +4
    31 July 2020 12: 14
    Whoever you choose, in fact, NOTHING will change. What, some kind of kakoytovich realizes all the desires of Belarusians instantly? And the salary will be 1000 euros right there (just to pay it, everything else will rise in price several times, but we will keep silent). Will Europe give loans, not Russia? Well, maybe it will - but a skiff will come to cheap energy resources. After all, the people do not understand that if there are changes, then the result will not even be years - decades. Onion is understandably not a great mind, so much free money and resources to gobble up and do nothing sensible - you need to be able to do that. But, on the other hand - and this is not the president's task, to do something personally - his task is to set a goal, for the rest there are executors. And here the question is - either there were such tasks, or such executors. What about agriculture - that no one in the whole country understood that agricultural products would not be marketed anywhere except the Russian Federation? That in Europe everything has long been divided and taken into account? These remarkable brains are needed in order to develop some kind of industry in the country and establish sales somewhere. This also applies to domestic critics - to build a plant for the production of mobile phones is a snap, but what to do with them later if the Chinese churn them out in millions and several times cheaper?
    1. -1
      31 July 2020 12: 42
      Quote: ytsuken
      Does some kind of kakoytovich realize all the desires of Belarusians instantly?

      Sometimes the moment comes that the main desire of some people is not to see this comrade and all his Caudle again. And then we can talk about salaries and other details.
  27. +1
    31 July 2020 12: 26
    Quote: TerribleGMO
    Do you want the truth? Ask any Belarusian NOT an official or security officer.

    Ask - I'm not an official or a security official ...
    Quote: TerribleGMO

    What a lie in the article. Again, comparisons with Ukraine begin, the division of the country into for Luka and against, Maidans.

    I did not notice a lie, a very balanced article. And the comparison with Ukraine is correct, because now there is no election of a worthy new leader, but an attempt to strengthen protest sentiments and passionate people on the streets.
    Because any literate and thinking person understands that it is unrealistic to prepare and initiate new presidential elections in the promised six months from the word ALL !!!
    1. 0
      31 July 2020 12: 39
      Quote: maksud13
      to prepare and initiate new presidential elections is unrealistic from the word AT ALL !!!

      Some kind of strange statement. Considering that the only promise of the women's council is to hold exactly the same elections as now, only without Luka and with all those whom he removed from the road.
  28. +3
    31 July 2020 12: 50
    Quote: Octopus
    Some kind of strange statement. Considering that the only promise of the women's council is to hold exactly the same elections as now, only without Luka and with all those whom he removed from the road.

    The answer is:
    1) The elections of the President are appointed by the Parliament (House of Representatives). The parliament is now pro-presidential, which means that it will be either very difficult or impossible.
    2) Parliament can be dissolved only if it rejects the prime minister's candidacy twice or breaks the law. violation of the law must be recorded by the constitutional court, which appoints in agreement with the senate ...
    3) Money for the new elections is not provided in the budget code, which means it needs to be changed ... And elections can be held ONLY at the expense of the budget ...
    etc. etc.
    I hope I partially dispelled your doubts?
    1. -4
      31 July 2020 13: 03
      Quote: maksud13
      The parliament is now pro-presidential, which means that it will be either very difficult or impossible.

      )))
      Of course, you cannot tell in advance, but in other countries after the change of power, the parliament remained "pro-presidential." And not "being presidential."
      Quote: maksud13
      Still have questions ???

      Well, shootings are shootings, they persuaded.
      1. +2
        31 July 2020 13: 06
        Quote: Octopus
        )))
        Of course, you cannot tell in advance, but in other countries after the change of power, the parliament remained "pro-presidential." And not "being presidential."

        1) So do not compare political systems and the periods of their existence in Belarus and "other countries"
        2) half a year is not enough to outbid parliament))
        3) another 3 years before the new parliamentary elections.
        Quote: Octopus
        Well, shootings are shootings, they persuaded.

        Hmm ... Now for sure - a strange statement
        1. -2
          31 July 2020 13: 16
          Quote: maksud13
          2) half a year is not enough to outbid parliament))

          Quote: Octopus
          Well, shootings so shootings, persuaded

          I am 100% sure that all problems with the parliament will be resolved instantly. If there are questions, then at completely different stages.

          However, empty. We will wait and see, it is not so long before the election date.
  29. -3
    31 July 2020 13: 19
    An immodest question - what choice do the citizens of the Russian Federation have ?! So far Ukraine, oddly enough, chooses as a democratic country.
    1. +2
      31 July 2020 14: 17
      Quote: Zaurbek
      So far Ukraine, oddly enough, chooses as a democratic country.

      It's funny. Appreciated your sarcasm. Of course, as a democratic one. Zarobitsan poboku, Donbass poboku, Ukrainians from Crimea poboku, ban political parties. Just some kind of rampant democracy. Democratic alcoholism.
      You watch TV Square and besides the gag reflex there are no others. All around there are pro-Russian agents and freelance GRUs. And the separatists in Donbass, as they shot at their children, wives and old people, are still shooting ... The lawlessness and dictatorship of one region, one political force over others is not called democracy, but lawlessness. It sounds strange, "they put an activist from Azov in prison and the people supported this decision." Is not it?
      1. -3
        31 July 2020 15: 34
        Now try to criticize our electoral system also sarcastically.
  30. -4
    31 July 2020 16: 51
    Quote: Skalendarka
    Quote: Soviet Union
    I agree.
    It is popular to explain that a country without 100 million citizens, energy resources and industry cannot be Independent .... It is necessary to return to Mother Russia ... due to the location of hard work .... would live among the best regions of a huge country.
    Many people talk about this and agree ... others just haven't thought about it yet.

    Great returnee, but how are you going to return it ?, with the help of tanks, planes / helicopters ?, Ali, polite people?
    Or all should show by personal example that Russia is the best place on planet Earth, that Russia is the country for which one wants to work, work and work again; where every citizen is a friend, comrade and brother; where ... first think about the Motherland, and then about yourself ... ''.
    There are a lot of writers here, but for some reason, many do not have very good memories ... After all, it was Russia that sent Belarus and the rest of the republics to free and independent swimming, that's not necessary about ,, ... rabbits, elephants and alcoholics ... ''
    I have always treated and treat the people of Russia with respect, after all, we are all RUSSIAN.
    And about the choice that needs to be made to us on August 9th. Many here write about a certain apposition. We don't have it in Belarus, 200-300 people who went out to play / have fun, I think, were on the satisfaction of the Supreme Commander himself. That's what I think ...
    And yesterday's 63 thousand Citizens are ... you, he, she is my Motherland ... ''
    And I ask you to notice not a single detention yesterday, and why is this figure comparable to the entire personnel of the Internal Troops and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. and their `` point '' is not iron, however, like everyone else.
    And now about the conspiracy theory: Imagine that there is a fight during this peaceful rally, well, 16 versus 17 young people and how could it have ended? So I don't know ...
    And yet I believe that I will live to see the times when we will be together again and ... every citizen has the right to be elected, please note everyone, but not everyone ...
    Best regards

    I would gladly shake your hand, on my own behalf I will add that from our "former" all see the grin of greed of the "captains" of the Russian business. Who will come to us? Better yet, Father in my opinion, and independence. Sometimes the policy of the Russian Federation towards its neighbors is similar to a gopnik who wants to force himself to love a young lady, but at the same time does not bother about manners, and he does not smell of perfume. Someone instructed Ambassador Babich and caused serious damage to our integration. And this was after the competent 100-year-old tsarist policy, where tact, insinuity and pacification reigned almost always, and the USSR was positively different in this regard, although under the tsar there was of course both fire and a sword, not without this, the time was like that. Name the country who did not have these birthmarks.
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  31. -5
    31 July 2020 17: 11
    Quote: Boris55
    Quote: Dead Day
    and why the citizens of Russia without a choice?

    Who told you that?



    The fact that the people voted for Putin, for stability, only indicates that other candidates had nothing to offer (about the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - this is generally something). I hope that the Belarusians will vote for stability - this is better than incomprehensible changes.

    "People are never satisfied with the present and, having experience with little hope for the future, adorn the irreversible past with all the colors of their imagination." A.S. Pushkin

    Well, you just do not know about the past choices, or what, that it was "choice without choice"? bully
    That would be a candidate in the elections "Against all" - even with impudent postscripts, the alignment would be different!
  32. 0
    31 July 2020 17: 13
    Quote: maksud13
    How did you all get this information that the AHL "quietly hates the majority of the population" ?? Big is 97%? Which intelligence agency told you? OBS?
    Yes, many are unhappy with the AHL, I have not been satisfied with it lately and sometimes infuriates me ... But about all the words about hatred, hang, shoot, etc. - smells very bad ...

    For example, out of my more than a hundred relatives and friends in Belarus, most of him “quietly hates” him ...
    1. -5
      31 July 2020 17: 36
      For example, of my more than a hundred relatives and friends in Belarus, most of him "quietly hates" ..


      But you shouldn't sympathize with them: when Lukashenka destroyed the opposition, launched Russophobic hysteria and betrayed Russia, they applauded and galloped for joy - in exchange for "cookies" ie Char and crackling ...
      But when he threw them with a glass of cracklings, then they soared ...

      And now it's too late to be the most honest and clever - get it and sign: It's served to jump!
  33. -4
    31 July 2020 18: 36
    Quote: Olezhek
    I would gladly shake your hand, on my own behalf I will add that from our "former" all see the grin of greed of the "captains" of the Russian business. Who will come to us? Better yet, Father in my opinion, and independence.


    I agree comrade, I completely agree: Lukashenka is power !!!




    This is power, this is honesty and beauty !!!

    I’m not your friend, even ironic. Lukashenka is not strong, there is simply no other. You blaspheme and I am not on the way with you. I will expose.
    Across Georgia. Our representative was kicked out of his seat in their parliament - shame!
    In Turkey. Themselves with Erdogan a year after the pilot kissed on the gums - a shame!
    Across Ukraine. You still say that the Old Man in Odessa supplied the Natsiks with gasoline, did he have to break off diplomatic relations with Ukraine? We keep the embassy, ​​it's a shame!
    And in fact, when big guys (USA, RF, Europe) are fighting, they don't interfere with a small one (population of the Republic of Belarus, area, etc.) - shame!
    You have forgotten about Luka's non-recognition of Crimea. Did our Sberbank, Russian Railways, Aeroflot recognize Crimea as Russian? Shame!
    And our Foreign Ministry on all positions gives only very serious concern - shame!
  34. +2
    31 July 2020 18: 50
    Russia wants to rise. This is natural. We look at the rising countries. the domestic market is at least 300 lyamov. it is now essentially an economic law. how to do this?
    return the Slavs to the union.
    That is why it is the same with Donbass (neither here nor there). It has been said hundreds of times that all of Ukraine and the Donbass voters are needed (subject to the implementation of the Minsk agreements) and will break the Western Natsiks.
    and Belarus is needed so that the SLAVS do not finally bend over.
    well, who is for this alignment?
  35. -2
    31 July 2020 20: 15
    The article is an idiological vyser. Lukashenka has lost the support of the majority - this is a fact. He has 30-35 percent, but no more. Even pensioners already speak badly of him, he turned many away from himself with his non-cultured attitude towards people. He has no plans to get out of the economic crisis, he only has to travel to military units and remember the 90s. Yes, really, how are we going to continue to live without him?
  36. +1
    1 August 2020 01: 20
    Why should the citizens of Belarus make a choice without a choice?

    Probably because of why in the Russian Federation it is the same, as well as in other fragments of the USSR.
  37. +2
    1 August 2020 01: 23
    Quote: karpusha
    The article is an idiological vyser. Lukashenka has lost the support of the majority - this is a fact. He has 30-35 percent, but no more. Even pensioners already speak badly of him, he turned many away from himself with his non-cultured attitude towards people. He has no plans to get out of the economic crisis, he only has to travel to military units and remember the 90s. Yes, really, how are we going to continue to live without him?

    And you call for help Poroshenko, Turchinov, Georgian snipers, and maybe everything will "work out"? Like the neighbors. sad
    P.S. I forgot the character with the last name - Saakashvili.
  38. 0
    1 August 2020 16: 52
    Have there ever been elections in Belarus? Did not know. It was like in the USSR, one candidate is ours, and all the others are wrong. And now it’s the same thing, but it’s not clear why everyone suddenly began to worry so much now?
  39. -1
    1 August 2020 16: 53
    Quote: Olezhek
    For example, of my more than a hundred relatives and friends in Belarus, most of him "quietly hates" ..


    But you shouldn't sympathize with them: when Lukashenka destroyed the opposition, launched Russophobic hysteria and betrayed Russia, they applauded and galloped for joy - in exchange for "cookies" ie Char and crackling ...
    But when he threw them with a glass of cracklings, then they soared ...

    And now it's too late to be the most honest and clever - get it and sign: It's served to jump!

    You probably don't know that you can really live and live well on the minimum official wage in Belarus? bully You probably are not aware that a non-working mother of three children under 7 receives more subsidies than if she worked? laughing

    etc...

    Yes ... But father mothballed the USSR in its most recent form - "you pretend that you are working, and we pretend that we are paying you a salary" ...

    But ... in terms of social guarantees, in comparison with Belarus, Russia is not good for her !!!

    Only ... there they want not only not to die of hunger, but ... as if ... this is ... to go forward ... in their development ... and Lukashenko does not allow anyone to raise their heads ...
  40. 0
    3 August 2020 13: 27
    Leave Belarus alone, in terms of living standards and culture, we in Russia are still far from them
    This excitement is arranged by our
    politicians and oligarchs from their helplessness