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"It's difficult for him there": Leonid Kuchma left the negotiating group on Donbass

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Former Ukrainian President Leonid Danilovich Kuchma, who until recently held the post of the official representative of Ukraine in the Minsk negotiating group on the settlement of the Donbas conflict, no longer participates in the Minsk format.


The Ukrainian guarantor (Zelensky) claims that Kuchma's displacement took place at the request of Leonid Danilovich, since "it is difficult for him there."

A version is being put forward, based on the conclusions of experts, that the resignation of the official representative is connected with the policy of concentration in the hands of the head of the Office of the President of Ukraine Andriy Yermak of all levers of control of the negotiation process. It is assumed that the Ukrainian side may demand that the Kremlin change the composition of the negotiators in order to move the Minsk talks off the ground.

Earlier, Andriy Yermak announced his intention to put to a referendum the issue of the special status of Donbass and the desire to stop the conflict.

A ceasefire has been in effect on the contact line since yesterday. According to media reports, almost immediately after its offensive in one of the units of the Ukrainian army, a serviceman received bodily injuries, and the fighters of the NM LDPR had nothing to do with this. In the 24th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, located near the village of Troitskoye, a conflict erupted between the Ukrainian military. It all started with a joint drinking of alcoholic beverages, the reason for which was a truce. During the booze, the sergeant beat the soldier with the butt of a machine gun, as a result of which the fighter, who was injured, had to be sent to a medical company.

In general, the ceasefire, which bears the loud name of "comprehensive, as long as the parties to the conflict are respected. Recall that some time ago, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky called the Kremlin, which caused a storm of emotions from opponents of the President of Ukraine in Ukraine itself.
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  1. Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 28 July 2020 16: 06
    +8
    This is who? Who remembers him? What does this subject affect?
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        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 28 July 2020 17: 38
          +1
          It seems to me that this phrase is fake. A small achievement "to cut out half of Romania", by the way, an ally of the USSR in the internal affairs department. There are photos in which Margelov and Nicolae Ceausescu communicate quite friendly.
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      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 28 July 2020 17: 13
        +8
        And they forbid me to pick my nose! Uzhoos. fool
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 28 July 2020 17: 23
          13
          "It's difficult for him there": Leonid Kuchma left the negotiating group on Donbass
          Ay poor thing crying crying ! ... We also need to feel sorry for him?

          But this brute, at one time took an active part as prime minister and president, so that the Outskirts turned into what it is now ...
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        1. Vlad T
          Vlad T 29 July 2020 14: 44
          -1
          What else can be expected, Kuchma and Kravchuk are only Jews in Ukraine, like the rest of Poroshnko-Valtsman, Zelensky ... Not differently in the RF: Mishustin, Lavrov-Laverman, Medvedev-Mendel and other Surkovs, Nabiullins, Voloshin ... When such an alignment, the blood of the Slavs becomes cheaper than water ...
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 30 July 2020 00: 04
            0
            Have you forgotten the main thing - the real name of the Guarantor is Naftali Katsnelson wassat fellow
            And so everything is like in the song - "If there is no water in the tap, then you have drunk ... they! If there is water in the tap, then ... he n ........ l there! "
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 28 July 2020 18: 16
      +6
      “It's difficult for him there”: Leonid Kuchma left ...
      Constantly lying and dodging, because of the policy of tyrants (whom he also raised), is always difficult. Besides, I don't want to go to Hell either.
    3. Baloo
      Baloo 28 July 2020 18: 52
      +6
      Is this the one who helped Bandera from childhood? the same traitor to Ukraine as all this Bandera gopota.
      1. venik
        venik 28 July 2020 21: 07
        +5
        Quote: Balu
        Is this the one who helped Bandera from childhood?

        =======
        No. An accomplice of the "Banderlog" was the first president of the "ineffective" - ​​Leonid Kravchuk (by the way - ex. First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine). And this is the SECOND prezydent. request
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 28 July 2020 21: 08
          +3
          Quote: venik
          Quote: Balu
          Is this the one who helped Bandera from childhood?

          =======
          No. An accomplice of the "Banderlog" was the first president of the "ineffective" - ​​Leonid Kravchuk (by the way - ex. First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine). And this is the SECOND prezydent. request

          Precisely, I call, I confused.
          1. Clear
            Clear 28 July 2020 21: 11
            +6
            Quote: Balu
            Quote: venik
            Quote: Balu
            Is this the one who helped Bandera from childhood?

            =======
            No. An accomplice of the "Banderlog" was the first president of the "ineffective" - ​​Leonid Kravchuk (by the way - ex. First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine). And this is the SECOND prezydent. request

            Precisely, I call, I confused.

            I agree that Kravchuk is an unpleasant person.
            1. venik
              venik 28 July 2020 21: 38
              +3
              Quote: Clear
              I agree that Kravchuk is an unpleasant person.

              ========
              This is still SOFTLY said! drinks
              1. Clear
                Clear 28 July 2020 21: 40
                +6
                Quote: venik
                Quote: Clear
                I agree that Kravchuk is an unpleasant person.

                ========
                This is still SOFTLY said! drinks

                Oh, Volodya, if you and I are drinks , then Kravchuk, I will not envy No.we will find him overnight laughing
                1. venik
                  venik 28 July 2020 22: 01
                  +2
                  Quote: Clear
                  Oh, Volodya, if you and I are also drinks, then Kravchuk, I will not envy him, we will find him overnight

                  ========
                  We'll find it faster! What is this "about ....." (Sorry!) To look for that? The question is - WHAT TO DO with it then? wassat This is where my imagination is already playing ... angry am
                  Well something like that.....
                  1. Clear
                    Clear 28 July 2020 22: 06
                    +5
                    Quote: venik
                    Quote: Clear
                    Oh, Volodya, if you and I are also drinks, then Kravchuk, I will not envy him, we will find him overnight

                    ========
                    We'll find it faster! What is this "about ....." (Sorry!) To look for that? The question is - WHAT TO DO with it then? wassat This is where my imagination is already playing ... angry am
                    Well something like that.....

                    Well no really stop , let's do a lot worse. We will give him a drink and tell him to his eyes that he is ... wrong negative
                    1. venik
                      venik 28 July 2020 22: 46
                      +2
                      Quote: Clear
                      Well, no stop, let's do a lot worse. We will give him a drink and tell him to his eyes that he is ... wrong

                      =======
                      From a bearded anecdote: "...And then molten metal drips onto my foot! Do you think I "cheated" the welder? No! I told him: Senya, you are WRONG !!!.... "
                      ======
                      Get drunk? I am for! Desirable with sulfuric acid! am Or cyanide potassium ... angry Although - no! Cyanide is too fast ... No. I personally favor sulfuric acid! Or something ... exotic ... fellow
          2. kot28.ru
            kot28.ru 29 July 2020 13: 30
            +4
            One is worth the other! Kuchma, Kravchuk, Yushchenko, Poroshenko ... what difference does it make? Methodical and step-by-step distance from Russia. Like a frog, throw it into boiling water or warm it up gradually!
    4. major147
      major147 28 July 2020 23: 11
      +3
      "Leonid Kuchma left the negotiating group on Donbass"

      And if I'm not mistaken, not the first time ....
  2. svp67
    svp67 28 July 2020 16: 14
    0
    A more or less adequate person was also removed ...
    1. igor67
      igor67 28 July 2020 16: 29
      +9
      Quote: svp67
      A more or less adequate person was also removed ...

      Is Kuchma adequate? Under his rule, the dawn of banditry, The collapse of the economy, sold everything
      1. Annihilator
        Annihilator 28 July 2020 16: 34
        +9
        Absolutely vorno. And under his very sensitive leadership, Ukraine acquired "more and more independence" from Russia. This is a kind of forerunner of what is happening there. Naked, proud and "independent" plus the civil war in Donbass and the loss of Crimea forever.
        1. AML
          AML 28 July 2020 16: 38
          10
          During his presidency, Ukraine parted with the ChMP - and this is 400 boards for a minute.
      2. svp67
        svp67 28 July 2020 16: 49
        +3
        Quote: igor67
        Is Kuchma adequate?

        Compared to others, yes. What is more adequate?
        Quote: igor67
        Under his rule, the dawn of banditry, The collapse of the economy, sold everything

        These are emotions and words ... Namely, with him, the economy stopped falling and started to grow ...
        1. igor67
          igor67 28 July 2020 17: 07
          +6
          It was under him that all large factories in our city were practically closed, everything is for sale, maybe this was the reason for the growth of some kind of economy, my salary really was 25-50 hryvnia, well in the late 90s an order went to repair turntables milking Sri Lanka and Spain, South Africa, then the salary rose, but Kuchma's merit in this is not,
          1. Normal ok
            Normal ok 28 July 2020 18: 09
            -1
            Quote: igor67
            It was under him that all large factories in our city were practically closed, everything is for sale, maybe this was the reason for the growth of some kind of economy, my salary really was 25-50 hryvnia, well in the late 90s an order went to repair turntables milking Sri Lanka and Spain, South Africa, then the salary rose, but Kuchma's merit in this is not,

            Oxtity. Under Kuchma, Ukraine's GDP growth reached 12,1% (2004) and industrial production growth 17 %% !!!
            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 29 July 2020 10: 07
              0
              Under Kuchma, Ukraine's GDP growth reached 12,1% (2004) .... I didn't notice that. I didn’t seem to have slept in hibernation, but I noticed how the dollar skyrocketed from 1.8 hryvnia to 5 per dollar. and no one had time to come to his senses ...... what about 12 percent of production growth in fig ..... you are not one of those type of Yadochkrymsk officer for an hour ... do not deceive people on the site
        2. Annihilator
          Annihilator 28 July 2020 17: 14
          +8
          They began to sell more. To sell the Soviet legacy, or rather.
        3. businessv
          businessv 28 July 2020 17: 47
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          Namely, under him, the economy stopped falling and growth began ...
          A bit wrong. Growth was always going on when Mr. Azarov was at the helm of the economy. The only adequate professional who has always had a positive impact on the economy when given the opportunity!
        4. Ren
          Ren 29 July 2020 10: 27
          0
          Quote: svp67
          These are emotions and words ... Namely, with him, the economy stopped falling and started to grow ...

          Sorry, but LD Kuchma:
          Prime Minister of Ukraine from October 13, 1992 to September 21, 1993;
          President of Ukraine for the period July 19, 1994 - January 23, 2005.
          GDP of Ukraine:
          1990 - $ 293,235 billion Ukrainian SSR;
          1991 - $ 101,116 billion, Ukrainian SSR;
          1992 - 22,193 billion dollars, Prime Minister of Ukraine - VP Fokin, President - LM Kravchuk;
          1993 - 35,025 billion dollars, Prime Minister of Ukraine - LD Kuchma, President - LM Kravchuk;
          1994 - 38,012 billion dollars, Prime Minister of Ukraine - VA Yushchenko, President - LD Kuchma;
          1995 - 38,275 billion dollars, Prime Minister of Ukraine - VA Yushchenko, President - LD Kuchma;
          1996 - 46,083 billion dollars, Prime Minister of Ukraine - VA Yushchenko, President - LD Kuchma;
          1997 - 51,867 billion dollars, Prime Minister of Ukraine - VP Pustovoitenko, President - LD Kuchma;
          1998 - 43,315 billion dollars, Prime Minister of Ukraine - VP Pustovoitenko, President - LD Kuchma;
          1999 - 32,661 billion dollars, Prime Minister of Ukraine - VA Yushchenko, President - LD Kuchma;
          2000 - 32,331 billion dollars, Prime Minister of Ukraine - VA Yushchenko, President - LD Kuchma;
          2001 - 39,309 billion dollars, Prime Minister of Ukraine - VA Yushchenko, President - LD Kuchma;
          2002 - 43,956 billion dollars, Prime Minister of Ukraine - VF Yanukovych, President - LD Kuchma;
          2003 - 52,010 billion dollars, Prime Minister of Ukraine - VF Yanukovych, President - LD Kuchma;
          2004 - 67,226 billion dollars, Prime Minister of Ukraine - VF Yanukovych, President - LD Kuchma;
          2005 - 89,282 billion dollars, Prime Minister of Ukraine - YV Tymoshenko, President - VA Yushchenko.
          Those. the fall stopped and growth began under Yanyka wassat
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        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 28 July 2020 18: 03
          0
          what has Ukraine become after the USSR?

          into itself. She's just like that. The USSR dressed her beautifully and gave her for cosmetics - so it seemed that she was quite nothing

          And in the morning as we woke up - so horror from the neighborhood

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      4. Baloo
        Baloo 28 July 2020 18: 54
        0
        Quote: igor67
        Quote: svp67
        A more or less adequate person was also removed ...

        Is Kuchma adequate? Under his rule, the dawn of banditry, The collapse of the economy, sold everything

        Since childhood, he helped Bandera, it is not curable. Traitor and executioner.
        1. Lumumbo
          Lumumbo 28 July 2020 20: 09
          0
          Quote: Balu
          Quote: igor67
          Quote: svp67
          A more or less adequate person was also removed ...

          Is Kuchma adequate? Under his rule, the dawn of banditry, The collapse of the economy, sold everything

          Since childhood, he helped Bandera, it is not curable. Traitor and executioner.

          That's right to Baloo! You need to start with whom it all started .. negative And the rest are followers ..
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 28 July 2020 20: 36
            +1
            Quote: Lumumbo
            That's right to Baloo! You need to start with whom it all started .. And the rest are followers

            When smersh in the Rivne region reached the regional level in 1946, it turned out that the threads lead to the Central Committee and to the Khrushchev. The fighters were dismissed in the same year, the topic was closed, the head of the MG was fused instead of him, a general was appointed who sympathized with the Bandera. So, there is nothing worse than deeds that are not completed.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 28 July 2020 17: 26
      11
      Quote: svp67
      A more or less adequate person was also removed ...


      The hidden ideologue of the creeping banderization of Ukraine ...

    3. Vladimir_6
      Vladimir_6 28 July 2020 21: 09
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      A more or less adequate person was also removed ...

      Most likely they did not remove it, but it was he who left. After Zelenskiy's talks with Putin, something may have emerged in the negotiation process that Kuchma is afraid of being involved. I decided it was time to rip the claws out.
      1. Clear
        Clear 28 July 2020 21: 14
        +7
        Quote: Vladimir_6
        Decided that "is it time to rip the claws ?.

        All right, claws ... and, after all, he will run with a howl that he suffered for nenka and for this he will collect political points for himself.
        1. Vladimir_6
          Vladimir_6 28 July 2020 21: 21
          +2
          Quote: Clear
          All right, claws ... and, after all, he will run with a howl that he suffered for nenka and for this he will collect political points for himself.

          At his age, political glasses are no longer necessary. It's time for grandpa to rest.
          1. Clear
            Clear 28 July 2020 21: 48
            +6
            Quote: Vladimir_6
            It's time for grandpa to rest.

            Grandpa, yes. But, grandchildren will not let him go from politics just like that No. Too much money is at stake.
  3. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 28 July 2020 16: 17
    -3
    The manner of submitting information to VO has been established. Straight, as in the sayings "in the garden of an elder, and in Kiev, uncle", or "They started for health, finished for the repose."
    There is news! Short. Maybe it's better to remind young people who this old man in the photo is, what he did in Minsk, his statements, and so on ...
    No, they slipped into rumors about everyday life in the army of a neighboring state. Or is the possible beating more important than Kuchma?
    And what else did Baba Nyura say at the entrance?
    1. businessv
      businessv 28 July 2020 17: 42
      +3
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      And what else did Baba Nyura say at the entrance?

      I recently suggested a topic in an article that is relevant in my opinion (https://tsargrad.tv/articles/krizis-kak-vozmozhnost-operezhajushhego-razvitija-rossii_259068), but the editor hacked it - not enough exclusive. Here, apparently, a solid exclusive, and therefore discussing.
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 28 July 2020 16: 33
    +8
    Former Ukrainian President Leonid Danilovich Kuchma, who until recently held the position of the official representative of Ukraine in the Minsk negotiating group for the settlement of the Donbass conflict, no longer participates in the Minsk format. The Ukrainian guarantor (Zelensky) claims that Kuchma was removed at the request of Leonid Danilovich, as “ it is difficult for him there. "

    Kuchma realized that all the bumps are falling on his head and with any result he will be made "extreme"!
    It came to the end then
    1. 4ekist
      4ekist 28 July 2020 16: 55
      +2
      The main thing is to blame on time - the final sequence of actions for the ukropruviteley.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 28 July 2020 17: 10
        +4
        Quote: 4ekist
        The main thing is to dump on time

        "Bargain for a pension" in the United States, as Yaytsenyukh did and beat himself in the chest, as a patriot of Ukraine!
        1. Annihilator
          Annihilator 28 July 2020 17: 18
          +2
          From the category "and we will go north" :)))!
        2. Lumumbo
          Lumumbo 28 July 2020 18: 02
          +1
          Quote: APASUS
          Quote: 4ekist
          The main thing is to dump on time

          "Bargain for a pension" in the United States, as Yaytsenyukh did and beat himself in the chest, as a patriot of Ukraine!

          Yes, Yaytsenyuk, there he didn’t just bargain for a pension .. There he grabbed specifically that something was connected with the collection of Scythian gold, etc.
          I jumped out abruptly, little snake ... But Waltzman is sitting and waiting for something (he didn't steal, greed will destroy him)
  5. cniza
    cniza 28 July 2020 16: 37
    +8
    It is assumed that the Ukrainian side may demand that the Kremlin change the composition of the negotiators in order to move the Minsk talks off the ground.


    I reread it several times ... but what does Russia have to do with it?
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 28 July 2020 16: 44
      +5
      So over there in the next topic, the Natsiks and the current truce with Russia have been concluded, against which they are on strike. Very few people bother with logic and reality there. They already feel good ... their head does not need to be turned on.
      1. cniza
        cniza 28 July 2020 16: 49
        +7
        When they don't want to work, they go on strike, and they want someone else to fight for them ...
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 28 July 2020 18: 26
          +6
          Quote: cniza
          When they don't want to work, they go on strike, and they want someone else to fight for them ...

          So the path of least resistance is the beloved Ukrainian gentry winked :
          1. cniza
            cniza 28 July 2020 18: 53
            +4
            Well, yes, "... suddenly there is a war, and I am tired ..."
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 28 July 2020 18: 58
              +6
              Quote: cniza
              Well, yes, "... suddenly there is a war, and I am tired ..."

              No No.
              Quote: cniza
              "... suddenly a war, and I
              "I didn't dig the second cache in the forest" belay
              1. cniza
                cniza 28 July 2020 19: 00
                +5
                This cannot, they have a third. yes laughing
    2. Kronos
      Kronos 28 July 2020 16: 52
      -6
      Despite the fact that in the DPR they fulfill the orders of Moscow in the same way as in Ukraine they fulfill the orders of the United States
      1. cniza
        cniza 28 July 2020 16: 59
        +8
        And what follows from this? Should Russia negotiate with the United States? No, let Kiev negotiate with the LPNR and we will put pressure on it, but the United States has nothing to do in the Minsk process - these are the genres of politics ...
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 28 July 2020 18: 27
          +7
          Quote: cniza
          and the United States has nothing to do in the Minsk process - these are the genres of politics ...

          And common sense yes
          1. cniza
            cniza 28 July 2020 18: 55
            +4
            Yeah and her cruelty, otherwise you will be swallowed without chewing ...
    3. Annihilator
      Annihilator 28 July 2020 17: 18
      +4
      And they have Russia always "to do with" :)))
      1. cniza
        cniza 28 July 2020 17: 48
        +5
        Quote: Annihilator
        And they have Russia always "to do with" :)))


        Yes, we are deep and far away on them ...
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 28 July 2020 18: 28
          +5
          Quote: cniza
          Quote: Annihilator
          And they have Russia always "to do with" :)))


          Yes, we are deep and far away on them ...

          But, they then think that we ... hiccup smile
    4. Lumumbo
      Lumumbo 28 July 2020 17: 19
      +2
      Quote: cniza
      I reread it several times ... but what does Russia have to do with it?

      Good question Victor ..! Russia is not a party to this conflict, but they stubbornly want to make it that .. They will not get anything!
    5. Normal ok
      Normal ok 28 July 2020 18: 11
      0
      Quote: cniza
      It is assumed that the Ukrainian side may demand that the Kremlin change the composition of the negotiators in order to move the Minsk talks off the ground.


      I reread it several times ... but what does Russia have to do with it?

      So after all, the author of the "news" slightly altered Gryzlov's statement. Gryzlov mostly talked about Kuchma.
    6. Terenin
      Terenin 28 July 2020 18: 23
      +4
      Quote: cniza
      I reread it several times ...
      Vitya, the author himself has read it once, and you winked Well, you got nerves good
      Welcome hi
      1. cniza
        cniza 28 July 2020 18: 58
        +4
        Greetings! hi

        And there is no author, so to speak, like Raikin - "... do you have any complaints about buttons? ..."
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 28 July 2020 19: 01
          +5
          Quote: cniza
          And there is no author ...
          Yo-oo, and you really read it several times! belay
          1. cniza
            cniza 28 July 2020 20: 50
            +4
            And then, but many not once, but only the name ... lol
            1. Clear
              Clear 28 July 2020 21: 16
              +4
              Quote: cniza
              And then, but many not once, but only the name ... lol

              I sin with this, otherwise I will forget everything later crying
              1. cniza
                cniza 29 July 2020 08: 43
                +3
                The girl can be forgiven for this, but not always. lol
  6. Operator
    Operator 28 July 2020 17: 07
    +1
    VSUshniki went into a binge on the occasion of their happy survival and soon "home to the hut" laughing
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 28 July 2020 17: 11
    +2
    No one noticed in the article. Ukraine may demand to replace the members of the group, to revive the negotiations. We will easily change, I even have candidates. But the Ukrainians may not like it very much. am
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 28 July 2020 17: 12
    -3
    Hmm .... Not at all on the topic ... The news from Syria has subsided ... Everything seems to be in order there. News from Ukraine came in a stream ...
    1. Annihilator
      Annihilator 28 July 2020 17: 20
      0
      So go to the Furgala thread :)))
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 28 July 2020 18: 07
        0
        Honestly, I would like to know what is going on in Syria, whether the militants were driven out of Idlib, how is peaceful construction going or not ... What kind of relationship with Iran ... I would like to know a lot. Furgal? Is he already in Syria? ...
        1. Tzar
          Tzar 29 July 2020 08: 30
          +1
          And now there is almost no news from Syria, tk. there a "stable" situation has come: different patrols ride along the roads, on the Idlib front line there are periodic mutual exchanges of fire without attempting an offensive, the Israelis occasionally fly in to bomb, ISIS men run across the desert and mine roads ... In general, all the main Syrian players (except Israel and Iran) are now focused on Libya, we are waiting for news from there.
  9. Lumumbo
    Lumumbo 28 July 2020 17: 16
    +3
    Literally 30 minutes after the start of the truce, fire was opened ... so all this is useless and most likely was organized to calm Russia down ...
    Bandera's lawlessness is also there .. Peaceful residents of Donbass suffer and die every day ..
    PS By the way, have the men noticed that over all these years, the Ukrainian side has not once stated that settlements have been shelled and civilians, citizens of Ukraine, have died?
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  11. Egoza
    Egoza 28 July 2020 17: 27
    +3
    I went to write "Ukraine is not Russia" Volume 2. The old man was scared! If you support the agreement, the Natsiks will get hurt at home, if you don't support it, they can arrange a pod in Europ with money offshore! Oh, and it's hard for him there !!!!!
    1. businessv
      businessv 28 July 2020 17: 37
      +2
      Quote: Egoza
      Oh, and it's hard for him there !!!!!

      That's for sure! The first freak who openly began to take control of the enterprise, taking advantage of his official position.
  12. businessv
    businessv 28 July 2020 17: 35
    +1
    Yermak announced his intention to put to a referendum the issue of the special status of Donbass and the desire to stop the conflict.
    To submit to a national referendum a question that will sound like: "Do you have a desire to stop the conflict taking place in Donbass?" What's this? Ordinary, or some kind of twisted cunning move?
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 28 July 2020 17: 41
      +2
      Quote: businessv
      What's this? Ordinary, or some kind of twisted cunning move?

      This is a way to show how it works, works, works ..... And even if people vote to stop the war in Donbass, who will listen to these people? Have already voted for the preservation of the USSR, and where?
  13. iouris
    iouris 28 July 2020 18: 25
    +2
    L. Kuchma is one of the oldest clowns of the play, which has been performed since 1991. Maybe your conscience is awake? Of course not, but suddenly. The show should continue as long as the main viewer is willing to pay their money.
  14. Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 28 July 2020 20: 17
    0
    hasn't died yet?
  15. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 July 2020 09: 52
    0
    laughingUntil this geographic formation ceases to exist, we will not have peace.