Layed down in Vyborg of the Project 23550 ice-class border patrol ship

In Vyborg they laid the foundation for the 1st rank ice-class patrol ship of the project 23550. The ceremony took place at the Vyborg Shipyard.

The laid down lead patrol boat "Purga" for the Coast Guard of the Border Guard Service of the FSB of the Russian Federation will be built under the contract between the FSB and the Vyborg Shipyard (VSZ) for two ships of Project 23550 (code "Ermak"). The transfer of the ship to the customer is scheduled for 2024. The bookmark of the second ship in the series is scheduled for next year, reports the bmpd blog.

The ship will be built according to a modified project 23550 (code "Arctic"), according to which two multifunctional ice-class patrol ships for the Russian Navy are being built at the Admiralty Shipyards. The developer of the project 22350 in both versions is Almaz Central Marine Design Bureau.

According to the available information, the border ship's armament will be: 76-mm artillery mount AK-176MA, two 30-mm anti-aircraft artillery mounts AK-306M, four 12,7-mm machine guns, MANPADS launchers. In the aft part of the ship there is a landing pontoon for delivering cargo to the coast. This ship will have two helicopter hangars - a large one (for a Ka-27 class helicopter) and a small one (for a Ka-226 or UAV class helicopter); the helipad can accommodate Mi-8 class helicopters.

At present, two ice-class patrol ships under Project 23550 - Ivan Papanin and Nikolai Zubov - are being built at the Admiralteiskie Verfi shipyard for the Russian Navy. The dates for the transfer of the ships are 2023 and 2024.

The ships are capable of speeds up to 18 knots. The displacement is about 8500 tons, the length is over 100 m, the width is about 20 m, the autonomy of navigation is about 70 days. The cruising range is 10 thousand nautical miles. Breakable ice - up to 1,7 meters.

Comments

[Jack O'Neill]

Chubby like that.
I don't know why, but for some reason I associate it with Shih Tzu. Nice little watchdog.

[alstr]

This is on purpose. This shape allows better withstanding ice compression. Plus, if it's really bad, then such a shape simply pushes the ship onto the ice.

[g1v2]

8500 displacement - quite a destroyer in size.

[Andrey the Magnificent]

Good news!!!

[Mytholog]

And Trump at this time tells how they are building the largest icebreaker in Mississippi, plus a dozen more they will buy abroad tomorrow for half the price ...
And the Yankees believe this blizzard. But they don't even want to hear about the Russian "Blizzard")

[Alien From]

Blizzard ......... so let the foreigners think, what does this mean .....)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alien From

Blizzard ......... so let the foreigners think, what does this mean .....)

We must take them on an excursion, and show a real blizzard, so that they forget the way to the Arctic.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: tihonmarine

We must take them on an excursion, and show a real blizzard, so that they forget the way to the Arctic.

The Americans have had bases in Greenland for many years. We settled there thoroughly.
With a blizzard there is complete order.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

The Americans have had bases in Greenland for many years. We settled there thoroughly.

About 30 years ago I was in Akureyri, there is an air force base and a pier, it blows well and freezes, but the conditions were good.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Captain Pushkin

The Americans have had bases in Greenland for many years. We settled there thoroughly.

About 30 years ago I was in Akureyri, there is an air force base and a pier, it blows well and freezes, but the conditions were good.

I watched a video from some Greenland base. There are tunnels in the ice for tens of kilometers. You don't have to get to the surface at all.

[askort154]

Laid down the head patrol "Purga" for the Coast Guard ...

Coast Guard of the southern coast of the Arctic Ocean -
sounds cooler and more romantic than - "coast guard of the northern coast of the Black Sea". Lucky servicemen.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: askort154

Laid down the head patrol "Purga" for the Coast Guard ...

There was such an icebreaker "Purga" project 97, as part of the Baltic Fleet was based in the Tallinn naval base.

[Livonetc]

Is the cruising range of 10 thousand nautical miles in ice conditions or the longest possible?
Who knows how it is calculated and declared?

[Marconi41]

Quote: Livonetc

Is the cruising range of 10 thousand nautical miles in ice conditions or the longest possible?
Who knows how it is calculated and declared?

These are the declared characteristics for clean water in an economic way. When sailing on ice, everything will decrease. The basing of these ships is possible in Kamchatka and Murmansk. So consider: go through the entire northern sea route and return to the main base, plus work according to the command's plan. In general, for some reason he was armed to the teeth, the FSB rushes from one extreme to another.
And the ship is really good, replacing their 97P with something worthwhile.

[Interlocutor]

In general, for some reason they armed him to the teeth,

"
Today he is a border guard, and tomorrow, God forbid, he will have to re-arm him.

[Marconi41]

Quote: Interlocutor

In general, for some reason they armed him to the teeth,

"
Today he is a border guard, and tomorrow, God forbid, he will have to re-arm him.

For this there are the same type from the Navy.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Marconi41

So consider: go through the entire northern sea route and return to the main base

It won't work in winter.

[Marconi41]

Quote: tihonmarine

It won't work in winter.

In winter, of course, not along the NSR, but he will patrol in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, in the Bering Sea he will also find work. No job left.

[askort154]

Marconi41 ...In general, for some reason he was armed to the teeth, the FSB rushes from one extreme to another.

Yes, everything is clear here. Since we have come to grips with the "Sevmorput", then it is necessary to provide it with international standards for control over shipping. And the distance is not hundreds of kilometers, but in the region of 6 thousand km. We are coastal
the military component has already been created, now it is the turn to create strong border capacities that will regulate and inspect
ships going along the "Sevmorput". What the US and its henchmen oppose.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Marconi41

And the ship is really good, replacing their 97P with something worthwhile.

It's high time, "97s" are out of date. The first "Blizzard" was built in 1961.

[Marconi41]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Marconi41

And the ship is really good, replacing their 97P with something worthwhile.

It's high time, "97s" are out of date. The first "Blizzard" was built in 1961.

I am certainly not a border guard, but it seems to me that the one who was Blizzard is not quite 97P. We need to ask the green friends.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Marconi41

I am certainly not a border guard, but it seems to me that the one who was Blizzard is not quite 97P.

97 without P. Auxiliary fleet. Stood in Tallinn before the collapse of the USSR.

[Marconi41]

Quote: tihonmarine

97 without P. Auxiliary fleet. Stood in Tallinn before the collapse of the USSR.

Friends of the border guards showed me a photo of the ice class Pskr Blizzard with a bunch of guns. This is definitely not the HSCA. Although I may be wrong, it was a long time ago.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Marconi41

This is definitely not the HSCA. Although I may be wrong, it was a long time ago.

And this is probably still old. From construction it was based in Tallinn, Mine Harbor, in 1992 transferred to Lomonosov, and then served until 2012.

ookean-estrybprom.7v8.ru ›photos / photo19722.html
Built in 1961. The icebreaker "Purga" was built in 1961. | At the end of 1959, the Admiralty began construction of the lead icebreaker of Project 97 "Dobrynya Nikitich", and by the middle of 1962 three ships of this project were handed over to naval sailors. At the same time, icebreakers were also built for MMF according to the modified project 97A. One of a series of icebreakers was built for the GDR "Stefan Yantsek".

[Marconi41]

It is clear, then we are talking about different things. There was also Project 52 Blizzard. Purely borderline icebreaker. Check it out on the internet, a very interesting project

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Marconi41

Check it out on the internet, a very interesting project

Thank you.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Marconi41

There was also Project 52 Blizzard. Purely borderline icebreaker.

Now I understand. It was laid down before the war, therefore the design is similar in some way to the destroyer "Seven".

[garri-lin]

He was just under-armed. With such dimensions, it is desirable to have medium-range air defense with a good stock of missiles. Optional. If you want to put it you don't want it, you can quickly put it on. He is unlikely to have to enter artillery among the ice. Civilian, ice class, shuganut 76 mm is enough. But in the case of a hipish, it may well be necessary to fight off an aircraft-based anti-ship missile.

[Marconi41]

Quote: garri-lin

He was just under-armed. With such dimensions, it is desirable to have medium-range air defense with a good stock of missiles.

Who? Border guards? You're probably kidding. Frontier ships only oppose civilian ships. The navy is in charge of the military. Well, why would they need a 76-mm gun mount? Who should they shoot with it? The violator will be drowned. And how a 630 can scare, it will not seem enough to anyone. Ukrainians know.

[garri-lin]

Ice-class ships are much more expensive than ordinary ships. I think that when the situation worsens, the small icebreakers will be fully loaded with work. And even border guard ships will have to carry out tasks that are unusual for them. And the size of these ships is rather big. And the weight to break the ice. To substitute ballast for the Artustanok is a controversial decision only from an economic point of view. And it may well come in handy. Better a policeman with a submachine gun than a freshly recruited Marine with a PM.

[Marconi41]

Quote: garri-lin

I think that when the situation worsens, the small icebreakers will be fully loaded with work. And even border guard ships will have to carry out tasks that are unusual for them.

Believe me, they have enough of their tasks. The Sea of ​​Okhotsk often freezes almost completely, and the number of poachers does not decrease. And they will have enough work for them, too. By the way, border guards sometimes break the ice with their icebreakers and in Avacha Bay for civilians. For ours I. Susanin works.

[garri-lin]

Do you think if serious conflicts start in the NSR, border guards will catch poachers? As far as I understand the boat as an icebreaker is very good. Let him carry a couple of tens of tons of weapons. It will not harm him and will not negatively affect the performance of the main task. Plus the team will be trained to use weapons.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Marconi41

And how a 630 can scare, it will not seem enough to anyone. Ukrainians know.

And the Georgians tried it too.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Marconi41

go through the entire northern sea route and return to the main base, plus work according to the command's plan.

I'm embarrassed to ask, what should a border ship do on the Murmansk - Kamchatka route?
Hide from border trespassers and poachers of all stripes?

[Marconi41]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

I'm embarrassed to ask, what should a border ship do on the Murmansk - Kamchatka route?
Hide from border trespassers and poachers of all stripes?

Do not hesitate, ask the greens what the Chinese and the Americans did, who were brought from there to Petropavlovsk.

[Wanderer_GO]

I remembered the 70s, the pioneer camp-like counselors scared: In order not to run your health, you need to come to the aid of your body in a timely manner. To solve such a delicate issue, there is a special drug "Purgen" - tablets known for more than one decade. Means "Purgen" - tablets with a strong laxative effect, the main component of which is the chemical phenolphthalein. This drug should be used with extreme caution, as its effect can be uncontrolled.

The active component of the laxative acts primarily on the large intestine, stimulating peristalsis. The tablets have neither taste nor smell, they dissolve perfectly in alcohol, but are completely insoluble in water.
So they will get rid of the "mattress".

[KCA]

In my memory, phenolphthalein is also an antiseptic, my grandmother threw a tablet into a jar of pickled cucumbers, well, obviously, so as not to relax

[Thrifty]

A destroyer in displacement! He would have appropriate weapons! Build a series of icebreaker class destroyers, no less than 2 dozen pennants in number!

[alstr]

This displacement is needed exclusively for work as an icebreaker.

[KCA]

Where is the hurry? We build both icebreakers and patrol icebreakers, who should we be afraid of? Trump with the Megasuper Icebreaker? And who will give him ice and meteorological conditions? Pushkin?

[Marconi41]

Quote: KCA

And who will give him ice and meteorological conditions? Pushkin?

Maybe your own helicopter? And no one canceled the ice maps either, and on the NSR there is also its headquarters, which also deals with alerts. There is someone.

[KCA]

Oha, right, the entire NSR headquarters will transmit data to the enemy, the flight is good, and he will give a weather forecast for at least an hour, during which a lot of things can happen in the Arctic

[donavi49]

Displacement is needed there so as not to rub and crush. If you build a slender ship, then the very first serious ice will devour it.

The cost, it is so expensive, and if you bang a weapon there, yes a radar, and a CIC normally equip, then Burke will immediately surpass in price, with many times more modest combat capabilities. And with whom to fight in the ice ??? And on clean water, it is wadded, no progress to maneuver together with a connection, no maneuverability, no economy (which is compensated by the internal volumes with fuel, true, but on the other hand - more fuel = burn brighter if arriving).

[Ros 56]

Serious car, good luck in construction and operation.

[Pavel57]

Why all the pictures from the Mi-8?

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Rational decision. Global warming will make the northern region and the Northern Sea Route more and more lively. It will require increased protection.

[Dzot]

Ships are already being built in Vyborg ..! So much for Russia with its "torn economy" ..
After all, now the global crisis and sanctions against us are being introduced almost every month .. That is what it means Thunder has struck for men in Russia ..

[Marconi41]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Marconi41

There was also Project 52 Blizzard. Purely borderline icebreaker.

Now I understand. It was laid down before the war, therefore the design is similar in some way to the destroyer "Seven".

In terms of armament, he could declare a small war and win it.)))

[Sarcasm]

IMHO, the weapons are very weak. This was all discussed in the topic about Papanin.
It is unlikely that this class needs anti-ship missiles, there is artillery behind the eyes.
We need air defense with the possibility of self-defense against anti-ship missiles, radar with a greater detection range, so that it really controls the situation and can serve as a source of information.
Ice shelter for nuclear submarines, respectively, and opportunities are needed to detect and combat submarines, self-defense from torpedoes.
And so, what is, IMHO, neither this nor that, just a scow for arctic pokatushek and tourism.

[Sarcasm]

Quote: Pavel57

Why all the pictures from the Mi-8?

It is emphasized that a helicopter of this class can take. But your own Ka-27.