Project 22800 "Cyclone" MRK launched in Crimea

Another Project 22800 small missile ship has been launched in Crimea. As reported, the ceremony of launching the Cyclone MRK was held at the Zaliv shipyard in Kerch.

MRK "Cyclone" was laid down at Shipyard "Zaliv" in 2016. After launching the ship will be completed at the quay wall. It will be retrofitted with equipment and completed electrical work. According to the plans, at the end of the year, the Cyclone will go to Novorossiysk for sea and state tests, after which it will be transferred to the Russian Navy. RTOs will serve on the Black Sea navy as part of the 41st Guards Brigade of Black Sea Fleet missile ships.

According to the company, two more RTOs of project 22800 "Karakurt" will be built and launched in 2021 and 2022. We are talking about the mortgaged MRK "Askold" and "Amur". All RTOs will become part of the Black Sea Fleet.

One ship of the "Karakurt" project will be launched next year, another one in a year. The problem here is not in the factory, we get power plants through cooperation and they come in this sequence. Therefore, we rent the ships in this order

- said the head of the enterprise Igor Obrubov.

RTOs of this project have a length of 67 meters, a width of 11 meters and a draft of 4 meters. Displacement - about 800 tons, cruising range - up to 2500 miles, autonomy - 15 days. The main armament is one UKKSK (universal ship complex) 3X14 missile launcher on the 8 KR Caliber, one 76-mm AK-176MA gun mount, ZRAK Panzir-M, two 14.5-mm or 12,7-mm machine-gun mounts MTTPU.

The ships of project 22800 "Karakurt" are actually replacing in construction for the Russian Navy the MRK of project 21631 (code "Buyan-M"), of which only 12 pieces have been ordered. According to the plans of the Russian Navy, the fleet should include at least 18 MRKs of project 22800, however, the construction of ships is slowed down due to insufficient production rates for diesel engines M507.

Comments

[barin]

Shipbuilding was reborn in Crimea.

[Fmax]

I wonder how the bay survived before, that without special investments it can now build both MRK and UDK? Magic?
The plant worked great before, having survived the 90s.

[Dart2027]

Quote: FMax

that without much investment now

Do you know what the investment was?

[Fmax]

You can find out about this on the Gulf's website and in the news selection if you're interested. What interests me - I know.

[210ox]

Clear. The main thing is not interesting.

[Rubi0]

In 2012, I survived by building not saturated box-cases for Turkey, mainly, only metalworking and a paint shop. There was no electronics, no equipment, even pipelines were out of the question, pure boxes. I am honestly surprised that they were able to restore competencies and build complete ships and ships.

[Fmax]

At the same time, both Turkey and Holland paid quite well. And the competencies were not restored immediately, but systematically, as necessary, over several years. There was simply something to restore. At the sowing sea plant, for example, only the docks themselves and the shaft rewinding shop survived. And they are in no hurry to restore it, everything needs to be built there from 0. And in Kerch everything was relatively lively.

[Journalist]

Another small missile ship of project 22800 launched in Crimea

In Crimea, men! Do you understand what kind of work was done? M this is just the beginning of the railway line was launched across the Kerch bridge ..
That's what I understand was added !!!! Surprise rod and Svidomo toad is now strangling ...

[Paul Siebert]

Some kind of inconsistency in the names ...
This is contrary to the traditions of the Russian fleet.
If the ships of the same project, then they should be called unifying names, for example, the names of heroes, female names, names of gems, and so on.
And here?
"Cyclone", "Askold" and "Cupid" ...
The name of the atmospheric vortex, the name of the Varangian prince and the name of the Far Eastern river ...
Where is the logic?
Announce a competition if you are too lazy to strain. Ask a topic - people will tell you!

[Eldorado]

Seven feet under the keel!

[Ryaruav]

the range of these ships depends mainly on how much the air force and air force of the fleet will provide them with an air defense umbrella after a salvo with calibers at the retreat

[Nastia makarova]

6 calibers with nuclear weapons there will be no one to answer

[Eldorado]

There are 8 cells on the Karakurt. 8 "Calibers" with nuclear weapons.

[Nastia makarova]

well wrong))) 2 this is for the control

[Ryaruav]

you and Nastya are two clever guys, everything is with Yao, if the bet is on Yao, then these boats are not needed

[Mikhail Alexandrov]

Raguli, according to their bases, will have enough of the usual "filling" ...

[TermNachTer]

Well, this is how they were originally designed for operations under the air defense cap, large ships or aircraft.

[Escobar]

On the VO there were articles that the mosquito fleet cannot fight on its own, I agree with that. But can a mixed flotilla of frigates / corvettes (air defense / anti-aircraft defense) and MRK (additional anti-ship missiles) be a serious striking force? Or do they have too different seaworthiness, cruising speed, autonomy?

[Cyril G ...]

Not on its own. BUT, in cooperation with the BRAV, the Air Force, the Navy MA and the Ground Force, it is possible to solve any assigned combat missions within the range from 200 to 400 miles from our defense centers, which are our naval base.

[Mechanic]

M-507 is an ancient and complex diesel engine, but there is no other and is not expected

[Ryaruav]

at least the same, as you can see, young designers are not capable of except Lego

[Guillon]

Ancient?! So, like an old horse!

[Evil 55]

The "jumpers" are once again chewing ties and slippers ... But it would be necessary to provide for the placement of a container autonomous PU on the basis of a 24-foot container with "Calibers", then the guys from NATa would nervously chew all the rags found in the district. ...

[Ryaruav]

there is no 20-foot container to place the layout there and it is so tight

[Escobar]

Firstly, according to the standard there are only 20 and 40 feet containers, 24 feet are not,
Secondly, if you meant 20-foot containers, then launchers for missiles x 35 uranium, less powerful and long-range, were developed for them;
Thirdly, judging by the available information on the network, at least 2 20 foot containers are needed to place the container complex, one for the launcher, the second for the control equipment https://mpsh.ru/23799-est-li-u-rossii-kontejnernoe-vooruzhenie .html Wood where to push them there?

[7,62x54]

"More" and "Zaliv" are well integrated into the Russian military-industrial complex. Hungry for orders.

[Fmax]

The sea from 0 was completely restored. And the bay was already inundated with orders.

[7,62x54]

Your fly in the ointment will not spoil our barrel

[Fmax]

What do spoons and barrels have to do with it? I just give real information in fact. I live there and regularly communicate with shipbuilders from the bay.

[7,62x54]

Exhale and smile.

[orionvitt]

the construction of ships is slowed down due to insufficient production rates for diesel engines M507.

What a time. Ships are built faster than diesels are made for them.

[donavi49]

Well, the diesel engines are unique, 112 cylinders, they burn like candles (bourgeois MTUs have already grown to 25 resource, and this one is up to 000 hours, and with much more frequent maintenance). At the time of Nikita Sergeevich they were still quite themselves. Today, in every sense, an artifact of a bygone civilization. But either that, or the oars. So you have to put it.

Well, the plant was not ready to build as much, and not 1 set (of 2-3 diesel engines) per year, as before. That's the trouble.

[Bashkirkhan]

Interestingly, "Cyclone" with or without diesels was launched, it seems that Kingisepp should have made it for it.

[antivirus]

it's great that GDP is not ready to finance 7x70 TVI aircraft carriers.
Strategic Missile Forces and tank crews will support me? Or who will tear off more money for the MO-that and the hero? Against the sisters and kindergarten teachers, all the heroes shout about the defense of the Motherland from the deck of aircraft carriers.

as if there is no other option for protecting Russia.


my mockery is useful first of all for you moremans - sober

[Dart2027]

Quote: antivirus

as if there is no other option for protecting Russia.

There is. An article for alarmism.

[antivirus]

military is a vocation, not a way to earn money. sisters and in kindergartens should earn

[Dart2027]

Quote: antivirus

military is a vocation, not a way to earn money.

And I've already heard that. By the way, not only in the 90s, but also relatively recently, when salaries were raised to the military.

[antivirus]

once again for humor -d \ dovolstvie military increase after the growth of s \ pl budget "idlers" and there will be happiness in the country. while they are afraid to do this - the return cycle is too long - the return circle is up to 20 years, and the military is now immediately grateful, but without the development of the country. so far only enough money for survival. do not think the authorities correctly?

[Dart2027]

Quote: antivirus

one more time for humor

It was, it was, we were swimming, we know. The boring enemies of the people went - nothing new, all according to the manual.

[antivirus]

I 67gr and saw the USSR. can you judge the meaning of life? at 15 tr s \ pl? or 75 tr?

[1976AG]

Quote: antivirus

I 67gr and saw the USSR. can you judge the meaning of life? at 15 tr s \ pl? or 75 tr?

I am 70 and also a bit caught the USSR. And I know that at that time not everyone was getting well. The professions you mentioned have never made much, so linking their income to defense spending does not hold water.

[antivirus]

I'm talking about the new proportions in the country and society - 35 to 55, not 15-75 tr. conditionally. and until the "friends" of VVP are ahead of the old oligarchs of the "big privatization" of the 90s. - THE TRANSITION PERIOD is in progress (it is bad that 30 years was not enough for the structuring of the society) - as long as it is necessary - as long as it will be.
All refer to the experience of the Second World War - real equality, the milkmaid and junior lieutenant are equal, adjusted for risk, but without aircraft carriers.

[Dart2027]

Quote: antivirus

I 67gr and saw the USSR. can you judge the meaning of life?

Those who destroyed it were somewhat older.

[antivirus]

Those who destroyed it were somewhat older.

-and in other titles .. and offices with a portrait of Lenin had, as it is now with Putin behind his back, on the wall

[Dart2027]

Quote: antivirus

-and in other ranks

You just said the same thing that you are now.

[antivirus]

exactly what? Have you got a lot of experience in social work since your youth?

[Dart2027]

Quote: antivirus

exactly what?

Can't tell.

[1976AG]

Quote: antivirus

military is a vocation, not a way to earn money. sisters and in kindergartens should earn

When the military sat on starvation rations, the sisters did not fatten in the kindergartens either. Conclusion - their salary does not depend on the cost of the army. Are you aware that there are other professions in Russia? Otherwise, you only write about them ...

[antivirus]

I'm talking about everyone, the proportions in the economy need new ones, otherwise it's easy to recognize the rulers as fools, experimenters. according to VSCh - they wanted the best, it turned out as always.
that's how it shouldn't be, but we've been experimenting for 35 years now.
and the military just needs to follow orders and read the regulations.
Without a voice in the economy. otherwise, "Pinochets grow."

[Piramidon]

Quote: antivirus

against m \ sisters and kindergarten teachers

They forgot to mention pregnant, hungry pensioners.

[antivirus]

admirals need aircraft carriers, and I (modestly) need the development of the country.
with any growth of GDP and other propaganda chips - all the decay and chatter UNTIL POPULATION GROWTH - BIRTH RATE is the optimism of young people, a glance into the future, the prospects of people in "that" country ,,, which will be in 20-30 years,
and whether then the basis of the country's defense will be aircraft carriers or hypersound at 10 km is not important.
therefore building aircraft carriers or other gigintomania without population growth is nonsense (as one statesman said)
and Sechin (at Zvezda) can use $ 10 billion (as in the United States) tomorrow.
while there is an understanding of the excessive cost and redundancy of costs in such a life in the country.
the structure of the society and the proportions in the economy do not allow to have aircraft carriers, and not "I am the hero of the VO, the enemy of aircraft carriers"

[RoTTor]

Ukraine is OBLIGED to give Putin the State Prize of Ukraine
for the revival of shipbuilding in Crimea,
almost ditched, especially in the factories stolen by Poroshenko.
After all, Crimea is Ukraine !!! ???
If YES, as the current Ukrainian demands. ideology and propaganda means
Those. Putin is trying for Ukraine,
developing the Crimean economy for the money of the state budget of the Russian Federation, also building a highway, modernizing a railway, building a Crimean bridge, etc.?
If NO, Ukrainian ideolucham - urgently hang himself

[RoTTor]

What will remain of the Poroshavka river armored diarrhea,
from which SrAsia also refused, which he forcibly snatched into the Navy and from American junk, pushed by "allies" when meeting with the "Cyclone" MRC?

[Thrifty]

Here is our Achilles heel, the lack of modern diesel engines for the navy. ! This is what the Kremlin should pay special attention to, and solve this problem as a priority! !!

[Sailor]

There are no modern diesel engines either for the fleet or for tanks for anything, the culture of production is below the floor, machine tool building is zero, and so the chain can be continued until we rest against the will of the guarantor, because in our country, only at his behest, something starts to move more or less quickly.

[Ryaruav]

you really, for tanks, it seems not bad, I agree with the rest

[Sailor]

Whatever is it, the last juices are squeezed out of the engine from the T-34, nothing new, even in Ukraine they have brought to mind a tank diesel, and we are ready to modernize the diesel of the 30s.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Sailor

and we are ready to modernize the diesel of the 30s

Why didn't they replace him in the USSR?

[mehan]

6TDF has been in service for a long time.

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

As if they were brought to mind in Ukraine, but something is not visible anywhere?

[mehan]

This is .... voluntarism!

[Bad_gr]

"... The hull of the ship is a steel flat-deck with a superstructure made of composite materials (fiberglass and carbon fiber layout), located from side to side. The use of composites in combination with the architectural features of using elements of stealth technology and small dimensions have effectively reduced the ship's RCS.
The artillery armament of the ship is represented by one 76-mm artillery mount AK-176MA. To protect the ship from an air threat, the Pantsir-M anti-aircraft missile system is designed, equipped with 8 launch containers of 57E6 anti-aircraft guided missiles (total ammunition - 32 missiles), as well as two six-barreled gun mounts of 30 mm caliber. The ship also has two 12,7 mm machine guns.
The propulsion system of the ship is made of three M-507D diesel engines. The propulsion unit consists of three screws .... " https://www.kchf.ru/ship/mrk/cyklon.htm

Anyone hint:
the article on the link above states
"Power plant: diesel, 24000 hp, 2 shafts." , and a little lower ".... The propulsion system of the ship is made of three diesel engines of the M-507D type. The propulsion system consists of three screws ...." Two shafts, three screws - how's that? Where is the joint?

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Bad_gr

Two shafts, three screws

There are THREE shafts in the picture.

And not a bad picture

[petrol cutter]

Two shafts. Two screws. I am reporting this to you as a direct producer. All three launched RTOs have such a scheme. On the NW "More".
Further, there are games with motors to this day.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Petrol cutter

Two shafts. Two screws.

Clear. And the engines, for the movement of the ship, then it turns out the same 2.
Based on the above, the schematic is lying the same.

[petrol cutter]

In theory, yes. But it was planned to install MTU as I understand it. Which for a long time and comfortably had to provide the ship with everything necessary. MTU- told you sew, not motors. Next, let's play the mind games. Who, what and why can be stuck on the steamer.
In our shop there are two A40s without engines. There, according to the project, two "Scania" should be on each. A year has passed. There are no motors.

[Bad_gr]

Thanks for the information.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Petrol cutter

But it was planned to install MTU as I understand it. Which for a long time and comfortably had to provide the ship with everything necessary. MTU- told you sew, not motors. Next, let's play the mind games. Who, what and why can be stuck on the steamer.

No, not planned and close. MTU was put on avenue 21631, when the sanctions happened, they had to dance with Chinese "analogs". It took 3 years to fine-tune the diesels. It was going badly. Project 22800 is exactly what the quintessence of import substitution is. The design was completed in the shortest possible time. The ship received a domestic power plant. But something went wrong as usual. (from.)

[petrol cutter]

Yes, projects are projects.
You yourself report ... A kind of quintessence ...
Planned / not planned ...
Personally, I no longer have an understanding of what is being built where and why ...
Right now we will give you a "Comet", for example, what engines, for example, will you put on it?! .. There is no understanding in principle ...

[petrol cutter]

By the way, what was planned?

[petrol cutter]

There in the diagram and AK 630 on the sides (aft amidships are drawn)
In fact, at this place, a single barbet under the "Shell" M is being performed.

[Dikson]

It was laid down in 2016 .. The motor is from the Khrushchev era .. And so, yes, shipbuilding in the Crimea was reborn ...

[antivirus]

comets-meteor also from the 60s
only modernized released

[mehan]

Necromancy is called. Or necrophilia?

[Bodipancher]

It is interesting that the problem of marine diesel engines could not be solved even in Soviet times, and now there are problems with this. It is necessary to outbid specialists around the world, well, there is a work front for intelligence.

[Ryaruav]

well why, on meteors, rockets and raid rigs there were not bad v-shaped domestic ones,

[Cyril G ...]

It was there that the Stars stood. Diesel has to this day unparalleled weight and dimensions, if that.

[mehan]

In the thirties, the Americans had already built factories for the Union. On your head.
The second time on this rake will not come.

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

They now have a different rake and they dashingly jump on them!

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: mehan

the Americans have already built factories for the Union.

Sold my dear. Sold. Full construction.

Quote: mehan

On your head.

No, unlike you, they perfectly understood what they were doing and were adequate. Otherwise, in the next round, the United States would have an extremely pale appearance from a united Eurasia ...

Quote: mehan

The second time on this rake will not come.

Rake is not only our national fun.

[Ryaruav]

in Soviet times, we had a problem with low-speed diesel engines for civilian fleets (120 revolutions per screw without a gearbox, on heavy motor fuel - Sulzer, Burmeister og Vine and of course Vyartsilya) and the military mainly on gas turbines

[petrol cutter]

My congratulations to the colleagues of Kerch !. From Feodosia.
But there is a small question. Yon with engines lowered, or without?

[petrol cutter]

And an inner voice tells me - empty of course.
We also lowered our three pieces and sent them from Peter for some reason ...
Although they are all for the Black Sea Fleet.
Presumably, to spend the resource on empty transitions.
Back and forth / back ...

[Ros 56]

To convey a fiery-fragmentation or vigorous hello to an adversary, he does not even need to leave the quay wall.

[petrol cutter]

It is, yes. The performance of the ships / vessels that I build I usually study.
Nevertheless, some mobility for the steamer would be useful.
That's why he is a steamer. Not a barge.

[Gloomy skeptic]

Good news for the Day of the Russian Navy !!!

[WingCat]

The whole shipbuilding program is waiting for diesels, how the rhythmic release of stories will be established, the delivery will go

[Sereg]

There would be a bit more missiles on them

[garri-lin]

Why is there more? The boat is overgrown with a very dense layout. The only thing that needs to be changed from weapons is on the Carapace of more missiles ready for launch.

[Glennie]

Strange bottom profile (flat) at the ship, unlike the sea.

[Bad_gr]

It is flat in the stern area, and so, quite, sea lines

[petrol cutter]

Flat, it's not casual. The designers must be thinking about something. The stern is transom. This has always been used on more or less fast ships.
The steering wheel in the nose ... On the cheekbones of the keels (I called them gills).
All thirty-three pleasures for you.

[Ros 56]

It pleases, he can just say hello to Trupchinov, he was here the other day going to attack the Crimea in the forefront.

[Old26]

In fact, originally the names were planned as in their time with the ships of the "bad weather division"
Then some changed their name. The result is confusion

Pella OJSC
Urahan... Since 2018 it has been renamed Mytishchi
Typhoon... Since 2018 - Sovetsk
Flurry... Since 2018 - Odintsovo
Storm... Until the name changed

Kerch, "Zaliv"
Cyclone
Askold
Cupid
Cloud
Typhoon

Feodosia, "More", the Otradny Leningrad plant "Pella" is being completed
Storm. From 2018 - Kozelsk
Okhotsk
The Circuit

Komsomolsk-on-Amur, "Amur Shipyard"
Rzhev
Udomlya
Pavlovsk
Ussuriysk

Quote: Nastia Makarova

6 calibers with nuclear weapons there will be no one to answer

Dear Nastya. Even in Soviet times, the same Project 58 missile cruiser (Varyag) had EMNIP ammunition for 16 cruise missiles, and only 4 of them carried a special unit. And out of 8 you have 6 with nuclear heads? Given that the rocket is subsonic ...

Quote: El Dorado

There are 8 cells on the Karakurt. 8 "Calibers" with nuclear weapons.

Who is bigger. Let's write that there are 8 cells, 8 “Calibers” and as many as 24 nuclear charges for them on Karakurt. The head can sometimes be included ???

Quote: Eskobar

Or do they have too different seaworthiness, cruising speed, autonomy?

Basically, the difference is in seaworthiness and autonomy. Cruising speeds can be equal

[lopvlad]

Quote: Old26

Given that the rocket is subsonic

missile "caliber" even in the export version, where the characteristics are not classified, and even in terms of speed characteristics it is transonic.

[KCA]

So 3S14 is a universal PU, for "Caliber", "Onyx" and undergoing tests "Zircon", even though the "Caliber" is in different versions