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Governor Furgal's secret arrest: money without politics

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Governor Furgal's secret arrest: money without politics

We are building versions here, breaking spears: why would the people suddenly defend the Khabarovsk governor when he is a bloody murderer ... It even sounded that the Kremlin was afraid of Furgal's growing popularity and decided to press him down. No, judging by the protests of many thousands, Furgal will indeed be more popular than many Moscow “stars”, because where is Moscow and its “stars”, and where is Khabarovsk. And Khabarovsk in the Far East and the governor in the same place.


But everything turned out to be much simpler. Nothing personal, it turns out, just money. More precisely, not even money. SUM.

Alas and ah, but Furgal simply has no chance to stay free in any scenario. He (it is difficult to say on what grounds) crossed the path of the so-called judo clan. Therefore, in the words of the film hero Gleb Zheglov: “He will sit! I said so! "

Who said that?

But let's start in order. There is such an enterprise in the Far East called Amurstal. Amurstal is the main supplier of metal in the entire Far East. It doesn't matter where: for the construction of ships, planes, bridges ...

Who said the word "bridges"? I AM? Well, it didn't just happen. In bridges, you know, the whole point lies.

Have you heard about the project of the bridge to Sakhalin? They left the tunnel to dig in due time, ferries are not very reliable, especially in storms and in winter, they decided to build a bridge. The Sakhalin governor was strongly opposed, but then he changed his mind. We will build.

This type of bridge requires metal. It takes a lot of metal. And Amurstal can give it very easily. He, the plant, was built for this, actually.

But lately things at the plant have been going very badly. Very bad. The enterprise is in a fever, and it is in a very specific fever. Although before 22 billion rubles in revenue per year - this was normal.

The question arises: where are the owners looking?

And yes, who are the owners? And all the familiar faces! But I will unscrew the timeline a little back, to the beginning of the described events, to the year 2017. The list was like this:

Sergey Furgal - 25%.
Nikolay Mistryukov - 25%.
Arkady Rotenberg - 25%.
Boris Rotenberg - 25%.

Handsomely? And how!

In 2018, Furgal wins the governor's elections, wins overnight and is said to be inconsistent. And immediately after the victory, he and his partner Mistryukov received a very “profitable” offer: to part with the shares of Amurstal. And so everything turned out well with Furgal, you can survive and not become impoverished.

As everyone understood, Furgal and Mistryukov refuse. And in 2019, Mistryukov is arrested, transported to Moscow and there they begin to "work" with him. As a result, the crushed and broken Mistryukov refuses lawyers, refuses to meet with his wife and relatives, refuses everything and begins to testify against Furgal.

And at the same time it transfers its stake in Amurstal in favor of Mr. Balsky, which we will talk about a little below.

After that, with a sigh of relief, a task force arrives from Moscow to Khabarovsk, packs Furgal and also takes him to Moscow. Investigate his participation in cases in which the statute of limitations has expired, but what does the law have to do with when 25% of the shares are at stake?

By the way, the day after Furgal's arrest, the owner of the stake, Larisa Starodubova, received an invitation to the court in the case of the repudiation of her shares in favor of Balsky. For neither she nor Furgal are worthy to own shares ...

And by that time Pavel Balsky had already "bought out" from the arrested Mistryukov his 25% stake in Amurstal. As it became known in February 2020, the deal was made in a pre-trial detention center with the help of Mistryukov's wife.

Of course, the SIZO is the place that, like no other, is conducive to such deals. And I won’t ask the question of whether Mistryukov was placed there, so as not to rock the boat. And it's so clear.

So, Pavel Balsky becomes the owner of a 75% controlling stake in Amurstal. At the end of the article I will give several links to materials that explain very well who Pavel Balsky is.

Pavel Balsky is the president of the non-profit partnership National Union of Judo Veterans. And the co-founder of this union is another non-profit partnership - the Society for the Promotion of Sports Types of Martial Arts "Fatherland", created by ... the Rotenberg brothers.

And it was with these structures (plus NPO "Cosmos" Chernyakov) that the scandals were connected with the construction of the multifunctional complex "Academy of Judo of Russia", where in total more than 200 million rubles were stolen and "saved". However, this is completely different история, and the numbers in it are not as remarkable as in the Amurstal case.

However, the hen pecks by the grain.

Balsky comes to manage Amurstal, and problems begin there. But then Balsky had only 50% received from the Rotenbergs, and he just wanted to sell shares to three Chinese enterprises for about 2,6 billion rubles, and the idea was blocked by Furgal and Mistryukov.

Now no one will stop Mr. Balsky, but ... a bridge project loomed.

In general, of course, there is a lot of vague things in history. As the lawyers say, the main problem of the pre-trial agreement between the accused and the investigation is that, according to Article 90 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation, decisions of other courts in respect of a person are prejudiced. That is, what the person and the bodies of inquiry concluded between themselves, the facts on the basis of which the agreement was concluded, are not verified by the court.

Prejudice is the obligation for all courts considering a case to accept, without checking the evidence, the facts previously established by a court decision that entered into legal force in another case in which the same persons are involved.

And from here comes a very wide field for variations. Judge for yourself:

Mistryukov concludes an extra trial, stipulates Furgal.

Since the pre-trial agreement presupposes a special procedure, the court does not study the facts, but only certain circumstances. For example, the appearance of the defendant: was the defendant brought to justice earlier, the severity of the crime, etc.

The court then pronounces a verdict. Not checking the testimony against Furgal, precisely because the testimony given against Furgal Mistryukov is a prejudice against Furgal.

Gruzdev ... sorry, Furgal, will sit.

The people will protest.

But what is popular opinion when 2,5 billion rubles are at stake (50% of Amurstal's authorized value of 5 billion)? Who cares about this popular opinion when the Rotenbergs will build another bridge?

So it turns out that all these fabrications about Furgal's exorbitant rating, his independence, a low percentage of votes for Putin (okay, for his constitution), a criminal past are all stupid nonsense. Nonsense in vegetable oil.

Khabarovsk Territory is KNAAPO, shipyards and Amurstal. This is money. This is a lot of money. And because of money all over the world, not only governors were imprisoned for nothing. They killed, you know ...

And this is what a luxurious chain we have. To the disappointment of those who like to drag the Kremlin, Putin and everything else here.

The Amurstal plant is a smithy for the entire Far East.

The plant belonged to Arkady Rotenberg, Boris Rotenberg, Sergey Furgal and Nikolai Mistryukov.

In 2017, the Rotenbergs transfer / sell (it doesn't matter) their 50% to Pavel Balsky. Sergei Furgal transfers his share to his wife Larisa Starodubova, as he is going to run for governor.

Pavel Balsky is going to sell his 2019% to the Chinese in 50, but other founders are hindering him.

“Suddenly,” the security forces came to the plant, and Mistryukov was arrested. In the detention center, he "sells" his share to Balsky.

Balsky changes his mind about selling his shares to the Chinese. Is it because the main bridge builder and hero of labor is going to build a bridge to Sakhalin?

Now Balsky already owns 75% of Amurstal shares. Larisa Starodubova, Furgal's wife, still has 25%.

The interest of Balsky and the Rotenbergs behind him is obvious: why should the judo gentlemen divide the sums by four, if it is possible by three?

And if Furgal was suddenly imprisoned, then obviously the shares would be cheaper and there would be less noise. Well, how did it happen with Mistryukov.

And suddenly again in Khabarovsk are the Moscow security forces, who knit Furgal and deliver to Moscow. Where it is very convenient to carry out multimillion-dollar deals with shares in a pre-trial detention center. Safely guarded.

Furgal's arrest took place on July 9, 2020. It's funny (if it weren't so sad) that exactly on the same day Furgal's wife receives a lawsuit demanding to declare bankrupt the company to which 25% of Amurstal are registered.

That's all. No politics, no popular rating for Governor Furgal. Obviously no murders. Just money, nothing personal.

This is how the good (according to the Khabarovsk residents) governor Sergei Furgal was removed from behind the bridge to Sakhalin. The opinion of the people, of course, is good, but only when it is needed. For example, vote for amendments to the constitution. For the rest of the opinions, there is the National Guard, the police and the courts.

I wonder if the opinion of the Khabarovsk residents really reaches Moscow? What will happen? Will gentlemen judokas get even a reprimand for removing Furgal so rudely and unprofessionally?

Or will it do?

Let's see the development of events. How and where we will live tomorrow depends on what they show.

I recommend you read: https://compromat.group/main/investigations/27400-v-bitve-za-amurstal-vyrisovyvaetsya-pobeditel.html.
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  1. Igoresha
    Igoresha 22 July 2020 10: 14 New
    43
    it is difficult to wonder why Batko's comrades do not rush into the friendly embrace of the Kremlin. All will be squeezed out and put in jail. In Ukraine, there was such a kleptomaniac Yanukovych, he dragged and took away even from his colleagues in the Party of Regions.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 22 July 2020 10: 37 New
      -32
      why Batko's comrades do not rush into the friendly embrace of the Kremlin.


      sho and loans with preferences are no longer asked?
      Will they go far without the Kremlin?
      Before Poland? The independence of the farms around Rossiyushka is simply touching. Independence at the expense of Russia and from Russia. Gabunostan, Ukraine and Belarus - the top three.

      Everyone will be squeezed out, and they will also go to jail

      Well, the country is successful, only in debt it lives from year to year, they will wring out the golden mountains - only when they are found.

      PS Belarusians go to work in Moscow, to make money for oligarchs as well - but this confuses the audience only from the VO forum. Well, the guys have their own shiz. Poor Russia wants to swallow up a successful RB (S)
      1. Igoresha
        Igoresha 22 July 2020 10: 41 New
        -2
        they maneuver))) and rightly so, Russia is a generous soul, there are no allies, will pour money, will not go anywhere, for loyalty.
        There are a lot of Belarusian youth working in Poland, if there are comments on the forum
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 22 July 2020 10: 42 New
          +6
          they maneuver))) and do the right thing

          you yourself get crazy with what you write.

          All those who are for the independence of Ukraine and Belarus are against the peoples of these states. Those are for poverty. For desecration. For getting rid of the Russian language. After all, the pension is 30% lower than it is. For the shrinkage of the market and the loss of work by the masses. In general, if you want hell for your people, declare independence from Russia and show your way to Europe

          The rest is all noise and streamlined jokes

          PS minus not minus, sad tribe, but Belarus and Russia will be one state. And your wet howls are of interest only to Lukashenka and his prince Kolya

          1. Igoresha
            Igoresha 22 July 2020 10: 54 New
            -2
            The rest is all noise.
            So, you and Putin should try to make the Russian Federation in the eyes of the Ukrainian-Belarusian man in the street, then they will believe more attractive than the same Poland, but for now, it’s not possible.
            A friend's salary at the plant was 10 thousand hryvnias at the beginning of summer (a CNC machine, a closed room without air and light) from another, a road builder in the fresh air - 12-13 thousand hryvnias. Poland-Czech Republic guarantees 30 thousand hryvnyas + all sorts of carpets like a 15-year-old car in good standing for 150 euros.
            They got rid of the Russian, even from Santa Claus legally in kindergartens, but the people do not care, as the Ze-team elections showed.
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 22 July 2020 10: 55 New
              -20
              So, you and Putin should try to make the Russian Federation in the eyes of the Ukrainian-Belarusian man in the street, more attractive than the same Poland


              yes, we will take what we need, and you are just as grasping as your sad tribe used to eat Crimea)

              so go to Poland. Then there will be more - you will be ashamed and repent and ask for forgiveness from the zmagars. And Akhidzhakova will be your example.

              The Russian people will unite despite the groans on the Internet) even raguli and zmagars will not interfere

              1. Vladimir16
                Vladimir16 22 July 2020 13: 04 New
                -12
                I read this in this scribble
                Investigate his participation in cases where the statute of limitations has expired

                Murder.
                What the fuck is the statute of limitations expired?

                I immediately agree with the author that we are talking about money. About big money, since there were such writers as this author, who justifies the murder by the statute of limitations.

                There is no point in reading the rest.
                Murder has no statute of limitations.
                All money matters are irrelevant.

                But according to the author, of course, the judoka Putin is to blame. wassat

                And I agree with Petrov. And he (Petrov) constantly gets a minus. Means it clings to someone alive. Well done!!!
                1. Umalta
                  Umalta 23 July 2020 12: 03 New
                  +7
                  Do not you think that in this situation, the murder can be far-fetched with a high degree of probability !! He was a deputy of the State Duma, a regional deputy, he was checked more than once, including when he was elected governor. But then a selfish interest arose and suddenly surfaced. I’m not for Furgala, I’m generally LDPR well, not like, there is a lot of cod, but like that straight into the bushes.
                2. nickname7
                  nickname7 25 July 2020 19: 43 New
                  -1
                  There is such a thing with murder, the one who uses such immoral "tools" against another should understand that they can also send a killer to him, or put him in prison, but when he made money, did Furgal think about legality? Of course not.
                  The oligarchs themselves must monitor the rule of law, not bribe officials, not falsify documents, not use raiding, not hire killers, then this will not be used against them. If everyone observes the law, then everyone will be less rich, but alive, free and with property.
                  On the island itself, the famous legality and honesty of the courts appeared to have nowhere to go from England, therefore the ruling parties agreed not to rob each other.
                3. taurus5.85
                  taurus5.85 29 July 2020 15: 34 New
                  0
                  I support. You were minus too. But according to the statute of limitations, you are a little mistaken - the statute of limitations is 15 years, but with the proviso, it can be without a term if a sentence of life or a watchtower is envisaged.
              2. Svarog
                Svarog 22 July 2020 20: 18 New
                15
                Quote: c-Petrov
                The Russian people will unite despite the groans on the Internet) even raguli and zmagars will not interfere


                Really unites .. and all your prayers Petrov ..
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              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 22 July 2020 13: 35 New
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                Petrov, you used to communicate normally, but now you have turned into a boorish uryakl. Have you received new training manuals? wink
                Quote: c-Petrov
                RB like

                Is it weak to like your Far East? The richest region withers year after year, people flee from there. fool
                But no, give you all Alaska. lol
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 22 July 2020 13: 43 New
                  -20
                  in a boorish uryakla.

                  you watch yourself and you will be happy.

                  Is it weak to like your Far East?




                  show me a photo from 1998, for example. We will compare how Vladivostok fell

                  1. Overlock
                    Overlock 22 July 2020 21: 30 New
                    18
                    Quote: c-Petrov
                    in a boorish uryakla.

                    you watch yourself and you will be happy.

                    Is it weak to like your Far East?




                    show me a photo from 1998, for example. We will compare how Vladivostok fell

                    Beauty! But despite this beauty, people are fleeing from there, why?
                    According to Rosstat data for January-November 2018 (indicators for the whole year will be available only in March), more than 331 thousand people left the Far East, and 301,6 thousand arrived.Thus, the migration loss amounted to almost 30 thousand people. The Magadan region also went into negative territory - in a year due to migration the region lost 2663 people - 7083 people arrived in the Kolyma, and 9746 left this region. The majority "fled" to other regions of Russia (8707 people), the rest rushed abroad (1039 people) ...
                    According to a 2017 study by VTsIOM, 40-43% of those surveyed would like to leave the Far East. Most often, this desire was expressed by young people aged 18-24, least rarely - by pensioners. Statistics broken down by the regions of the Far East showed that the strongest suitcase sentiments are in the Magadan region, where 62% -64% of respondents wish to leave, followed by Chukotka with 52% -57%, the Republic (Sakha) Yakutia with 56%. In Kamchatka, the figure is 52%, in the Khabarovsk Territory - 46, in the Sakhalin Region - 44. The situation looks best in Primorye - 33% want to leave the region.
                    1. savage1976
                      savage1976 23 July 2020 11: 37 New
                      +1
                      Well, they took it and corrected the statistics, arrived in a region where it snows 9+ months a year and in the summer they walk in the sun in a down jacket. Or do you live well on the Black Sea coast? So why shouldn't others bask there? People came, solved their financial issues and went to rest. Repeat their path and you see, life will become better.
                  2. portnoy
                    portnoy 24 July 2020 07: 49 New
                    +5
                    In Vladivostok, everything was always good as a port city, we would have lived normally without a bridge on Russky Island, there was no big need for it, and our Far East is really bent, it's not beautiful pictures for you to look at.
                    1. Dreamboat
                      Dreamboat 25 July 2020 15: 57 New
                      0
                      How these custom hackers got them, they just take people for idiots!
                      Lies from the article, direct and obvious:
                      1. The limitation period has expired. NO, NOT EXPIRED! Furgalu shines part 2 of Art. 105 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, which provides for the death penalty and life imprisonment. See st. 78 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, part 4. "4. The question of the application of the statute of limitations to a person who has committed a crime punishable by death or life imprisonment is decided by the court. then the death penalty and life imprisonment do not apply. " That is, there can be no automatic termination of criminal prosecution, as well as release by the decision of the investigation. Since several aggravating circumstances are incriminated at once, the court will not apply the exemption with a probability of 99%.
                      2. Prejudice in criminal law. This is generally complete nonsense. Prejudice applies only in civil disputes and only if the previous court's decision was in a dispute between the same persons! Under criminal law, the PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE applies! Nothing except a court decision in relation to a person can convict him of a crime!
                      So listen further to such deceitful scribblers about transactions in the pre-trial detention center, about the "honest deputy" Furgal (then just a Duma deputy), who bought this Amurstal (Amurmetal, to be exact) for just 2.4 billion rubles in 2017 through bankruptcy (at the price of a small store in Moscow) (https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3205630). They are for money from murderers and raiders and not such a mess!
                      1. HUNTERDON
                        HUNTERDON 31 July 2020 10: 45 New
                        -1
                        I agree with you
                  3. Archon
                    Archon 26 July 2020 11: 56 New
                    0
                    A powerful leap was in 2012 for the first summit. But in subsequent years, everything rolled by inertia. Although in 2019-2020 they finally bought new buses with payment by card, used Moscow trams and finally began to repair the quarter roads. And so everywhere is more likely devastation than order.
                  4. Energetik81
                    Energetik81 26 July 2020 20: 26 New
                    -1
                    I have three at work from the Far East. No need to fill in as it is good there. I believe them and not you.
            2. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 22 July 2020 13: 28 New
              10
              Quote: seti
              After the words -

              What's wrong with the words? The limitation period in accordance with Art. 78 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation has really expired. laughing
              1. Tankograd
                Tankograd 22 July 2020 19: 47 New
                +2
                And murder ceased to be murder ...
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 23 July 2020 08: 12 New
                  0
                  No, it hasn't stopped. But according to the law, the deadlines have expired. request
                  1. savage1976
                    savage1976 23 July 2020 11: 35 New
                    +2
                    Can you specify the law?
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 23 July 2020 14: 56 New
                      -2
                      Damn, well, go up the dialogue.
                      1. savage1976
                        savage1976 23 July 2020 17: 55 New
                        +2
                        Above on the dialogue there is only a "blizzard about the statute of limitations" without specifying articles of the law or under legal acts. ... There is no statute of limitations for the articles related to the murder.
                      2. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 24 July 2020 07: 15 New
                        0
                        Quote: savage1976
                        Above on the dialogue there is only a "blizzard about the statute of limitations" without specifying articles of the law or under legal acts.

                        Vision problems?
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Quote: seti
                        After the words -

                        What's wrong with the words? Statute of limitations in accordance with Art. 78 of the Criminal Code really expired. laughing

                        wink
            3. savage1976
              savage1976 24 July 2020 09: 58 New
              +4
              I admit, I looked, I didn't notice. We read.
              Clause 4 of Art 78 reads:

              "The question of the application of the statute of limitations to a person who has committed a crime punishable by death or life imprisonment is decided by the court. If the court does not consider it possible to release the specified person from criminal liability due to the expiration of the statute of limitations, the death penalty and life imprisonment are not applied. . "

              The punishment for murder is provided for in Art. 105 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.

              Responsibility for the killings is specified in Art. 105 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. It has two parts, the first of which is devoted to unqualified (“common”) crimes, and the second to murders with additional qualifying (aggravating) features. Under the first part of Article 105, liability implies imprisonment for a term of 6 to 15 years, under the second - imprisonment for 8 to 20 years, as well as life imprisonment or the death penalty.

              The decision is made by the court. The man was arrested, taken to court. The court decides what punishment to impose.

              And so yes, in your opinion, everything is fine, he went to rob a bank, killed all the employees, went to Thailand, walked on the seas with taichki for 15 years, returned and live beautifully and calmly, with money and without punishment.
        2. BAI
          BAI 22 July 2020 12: 27 New
          13
          but RB and Russia will be one state.

          Will not. Moreover, Belarus will follow in the footsteps of Ukraine and become an enemy of Russia.
          1. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 22 July 2020 13: 16 New
            +1
            Both BYELORUSSIA and MALOROSSIYA will return to Russia. And all the outlying lands and all the edges and all the townships.
            It is not good to steal land. And that was exactly theft. This is not correct.
            Maybe this will happen in our lifetime.
            Little of. People will be happy about it. The overwhelming majority will be happy to return to the country.

            I think so. wink
            1. BAI
              BAI 22 July 2020 13: 41 New
              12
              The old man is not eternal. And there is no replacement for him in Belarus, as we have for Putin. Those. sooner or later the opposition will come to power. And what does the opposition say in Belarus?
              43-year-old Belarusian opposition politician, entrepreneur, lawyer, deputy of the House of Representatives, presidential candidate Anna Kanopatskaya, speaking on the air of the Belarus 1 TV channel, demanded to break the union agreement with Russia.

              She noted that she stands for state neutrality, the desire for which is enshrined in the country's constitution and therefore stands for the revision of all agreements that do not correspond to national interests.

              “I am in favor of denouncing the treaty on the creation of the Union State, for withdrawing from the collective security treaty,” she said, adding that it is necessary to demand the withdrawal of the Russian military from the country.

              Kanopatskaya called Belarus an integral part of European civilization and stated that the country should consciously participate in European structures as a full member.

              Do you see any differences from Ukraine?
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 22 July 2020 13: 49 New
                -4
                Do you see any differences from Ukraine?


                this is the standard path of the empire shards. Ukraine passes the path of Georgia, then the Republic of Belarus and Kazakhstan will pass this path.

                And it's not about the Kremlin. This is the very logic of the existence of the fragments of the Empire as opposed to this very Empire.

                Georgia lost its territory, Ukraine is the same. And then - more.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 22 July 2020 20: 22 New
                  +2
                  And it's not about the Kremlin. This is the very logic of the existence of the fragments of the Empire as opposed to this very Empire.

                  Brilliant .. Petrov you are definitely not a kremlebot .. I think such a kremlebot would be kicked out of work laughing
          2. Sklendarka
            Sklendarka 22 July 2020 17: 42 New
            -1
            Quote: BAI
            but RB and Russia will be one state.

            Will not. Moreover, Belarus will follow in the footsteps of Ukraine and become an enemy of Russia.

            You are wrong, Belarusians will never be considered an enemy of the Russian Federation, and the Russian Federation ALREADY considers Belarusians as enemies.
            Ask why?, And you read the comments, what is one St. Petrov worth ..., to be rude and name-calling apparently his credo ...
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 22 July 2020 18: 35 New
              -6
              Skalendarka, are you ukroinets? Or where did you get this misunderstanding? Where did I call Belarusians enemies? Or is the fact that I am burning over my knee here - does it make me an enemy of the Belarusians?

              Or the fact that I consider myself and the Belarusian one nation - does it make me an enemy?

              What are you talking about?
              Or are you offended - what I actually told you - that your state is incapacitated, living on debt from several sources from year to year?

              The army of your RB lives at the expense of Russia, as does your Foreign Ministry. Do you understand?
              Or are you confused by my question about the presence of boundaries?

              Maybe then you will explain - why do we need a border between states, when one micro-size state lives off the buns from another, from which it separated?

              As a Russian, will you explain to me why I should sponsor the independent ones?

              to be rude and call names apparently his credo ...

              come on girl, show me my post, where I called the Belarusians

              All my posts for 8 years in history. Look.
          3. Svarog
            Svarog 22 July 2020 21: 26 New
            +3
            Quote: BAI
            but RB and Russia will be one state.

            Will not. Moreover, Belarus will follow in the footsteps of Ukraine and become an enemy of Russia.

            There is no doubt .. Everything goes to this .. If statesmen were in power and Ukraine would be with us, Belarus would be with us .. but with these now all post-Soviet countries will finally be torn away from us, and then they will start to derban from the inside ..
            1. Ded_Mazay
              Ded_Mazay 23 July 2020 06: 56 New
              +2
              Quote: Svarog
              If statesmen were in power and Ukraine would be with us

              Why all of a sudden? Not for the purpose of the Ukrainian independenceists proclaimed independence, so that later everything would be returned as it was.
          4. Umalta
            Umalta 23 July 2020 12: 11 New
            +1
            Didn't understand RB will commit suicide ?! Will destroy its industry, declare that it will be an agrarian superpower, declare that the ancient Belarusians dug something out there, Cyclopean, dug up, for example, the Baltic Sea ?!
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        4. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 23 July 2020 09: 03 New
          +2
          Quote: c-Petrov
          sad tribe, but RB and Russia will be one state.

          only in the presence of socialism, otherwise, they will be divided by 20
          1. Alex Nevs
            Alex Nevs 24 July 2020 09: 34 New
            +1
            I agree. "Capitalist Rails" is a fragmentation and absorption by world players.
    2. Roman123567
      Roman123567 22 July 2020 10: 47 New
      10
      Before Poland?
      Is life in Poland badly ?? Maybe worse than ours ??)
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                1. Lexus
                  Lexus 22 July 2020 17: 44 New
                  +9
                  In vain they became inflated сalut π-trollff. Poor thing, they have completely brought the "rainbow" mii to the point that the men have numbers "shoot". Remember, "drummers" he relies only in one place - on the big toe.

                  among this liquid tribe, you have an even more liquid consistency

                  Darling, you needlessly cling to people. This is your mission - to emit "amber" from one unpaired organ, sparing no pants. Soon all your "mass" fleeting "exit" looms, and further - the pipe calls!

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                    1. Lexus
                      Lexus 22 July 2020 18: 49 New
                      +9
                      and what kind of a miracle waffle will suit it? Where is that waffle superhero?

                      Your "bunker" idol. Didn't you feel the movement "from above"?

                      20 years was not enough for you to do something?
                      Can you start with me?

                      The "sixes" calling into the gateway are always deliberately brave.

                      did you want something?
                    2. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 22 July 2020 18: 54 New
                      0
                      Quote: lexus
                      Lexus (Alex)

                      Glad to see you, Brother! NO PASARAN !!!
                    3. Lexus
                      Lexus 22 July 2020 19: 02 New
                      +6
                      Greetings, Dear Comrade!
                      I look at each other's cackling cackles in pardon. Either in the morning the "chaffinch" crows, then the π-trollff fireworks in the evening will paint the sky in rainbow colors.
                    4. Vestnik
                      Vestnik 22 July 2020 19: 13 New
                      -8
                      Quote: lexus
                      Greetings, Comrade!
                      I watch the uryakvy cackle here in pardon each other. Either in the morning the "finch" crows, then the π-trollff fireworks in the evening paints the sky in all the colors of the rainbow.

                      "comrade" ha ha ha yes from you liberal is more than a kilometer .. They put on a camouflage and sickles molotyn avakh and I think they do not recognize the essence ..
                      PS As Dulles said, we will replace their values ​​with deceitful concepts .. Be careful, men with such who have the attributes of the USSR, this is a solid liberda with the Echo of the State Department ..
                      They have such a tactic in the last 3-4 years! So they want to discourage the nostalgia for the USSR from our younger generation ..
                      The libershize has such a technique .. Good luck to everyone and be careful in what the men say .. You will be caught and provoked in every way. hi
                    5. A good one
                      A good one 22 July 2020 20: 45 New
                      -3
                      Quote: lexus
                      Greetings, Dear Comrade!
                      I look at each other's cackling cackles in pardon. Either in the morning the "chaffinch" crows, then the π-trollff fireworks in the evening will paint the sky in rainbow colors.

                      Oh, the red-banner Toyota has appeared from the guardhouse, welcomes the rainbow comrades. yes
                    6. Lexus
                      Lexus 22 July 2020 21: 37 New
                      +7
                      welcomes the rainbow comrades.

                      Golovan, I welcome the rainbow "sisters" in yours, if I may call it a face. And they dressed up as cats, and a dog, and a Wehrmacht division. Now they got the mothballs boys on the track, started accounts without a disguise ... and, in the end, brought "clarity" to the skirt. Bravo! Amazing multi-station. It's high time for you to go to Brazzers. And which of us is rainbow? The question is rhetorical. Give me your number ssalut for π-trollff and advice and love to you ... wink

                      Oh Toyota

                      Adequate people, in general, understood from the first time what my nickname meant. I didn't even try to see you among them, which, as you constantly confirm, was the right decision. You can no longer stick to the sole - from now on you will have to flush without explanations and wasting time.
                    7. A good one
                      A good one 23 July 2020 07: 38 New
                      0
                      Quote: lexus
                      welcomes the rainbow comrades.

                      Golovan, I welcome the rainbow "sisters" in yours, if I may call it a face. And they dressed up as cats, and a dog, and a Wehrmacht division. Now they got the mothballs boys on the track, started accounts without a disguise ... and, in the end, brought "clarity" to the skirt. Bravo! Amazing multi-station. It's high time for you to go to Brazzers. And which of us is rainbow? The question is rhetorical. Give me your number ssalut for π-trollff and advice and love to you ... wink

                      Oh Toyota

                      Adequate people, in general, understood from the first time what my nickname meant. I didn't even try to see you among them, which, as you constantly confirm, was the right decision. You can no longer stick to the sole - from now on you will have to flush without explanations and wasting time.

                      Well, let's not be nervous, my joy. yes Every stump, especially on New Year's Eve, imagines itself as a Christmas tree. They were mistaken, of course, that I am a dog lover and a cat lover, I guess what, but alas. Be patient, spare parts from China to help. yes
  2. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 24 July 2020 09: 35 New
    +1
    for "waltzman" they vote.
  • Soviet Union
    Soviet Union 22 July 2020 13: 21 New
    +9
    Roman, since the 90s, more than 250 billion have been thrown into Poland ... and it's time to return
  • Uncle Vanya Susanin
    Uncle Vanya Susanin 22 July 2020 14: 40 New
    -4
    "Maybe worse than ours ??)"

    Here is what the Poles write about the laying of two helicopter carriers in Russia:

    "We also laid the keel, but forgot to start building. As was the case with a hundred ring roads, 100 thousand apartments, a million electric cars. The best results of this government were the rise in prices [...] in addition to leaping inflation."
    The same howl about the fact that Pu ... ugh, Duda stole everything, everywhere there is devastation, and a mess!
  • Umalta
    Umalta 27 July 2020 07: 40 New
    -1
    Poland lives and thrives on subsidies from the European Union and all economic miracles from there.
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 22 July 2020 10: 48 New
    11
    well, the country is successful, only in debt lives from year to year
    Whether we are ..
    Without minerals, they would go to Belarus to earn money .. with such "successful" leaders ..
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 22 July 2020 10: 50 New
      -16
      Whether we are ..

      Well, stay still here. Yes, successful. Yes, half a trillion in stock, and a surplus budget and the lowest debt. Tell me the countries that can afford to buy 500 aircraft for the Aerospace Forces. How many countries are there? Are these successful countries?

      Without minerals, they would go to Belarus to earn money


      these successful ones have a market of 140 million for an 8 million country and discount oil and gas as well. Ukraine generally had 3 billion of minerals a year - for free. Consider it as if you have produced 3 billion of gas - just without investing in production. Even Russia cannot do that - Russia has transportation and production costs.

      So pump what they have
      1. Roman123567
        Roman123567 22 July 2020 11: 58 New
        +9
        Well, stay still here.
        This is your destiny ..

        Tell me the countries that can afford to buy 500 aircraft for the Aerospace Forces.
        What kind of aircraft are you talking about, aladukh ??) Maybe you can tell about 500 armatures ??
        Those who need them have and buy .. this is the first thing ..
        Second, how are planes and success related? How many planes does New Zealand have? So what?? You live in a separate world, with your own ideas about a successful life ..
        Okay, even the USSR..the ideology was defended there..And we are all armed against whom ??

        these successful ones have a market of 140 million for an 8 million country and discount oil and gas as well.
        To buy tomatoes at a discount, you still need money .. And when they are lying on the ground, you just have to put them in your mouth .. and sell them to your neighbors .. You compare the incomparable !!

        Ukraine generally had 3 billion of minerals a year - for free. Consider it as if you have produced 3 billion of gas - just without investing in production. Even Russia cannot
        But Russia can just unfasten 3 billion to Ukraine ..))
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 22 July 2020 12: 02 New
          -18
          What kind of aircraft are you talking about, aladukh ??) Maybe you can tell about 500 armatures ??


          why do you draw so few emoticons? I tell you it's easier to look into your eyes to express everything. Would you like to listen?

          Second, how are planes and success related? - - to answer I use logic during the call
          And who are we all arming ourselves against ??


          so I immediately understood who you are. You are this ...
          1. Roman123567
            Roman123567 22 July 2020 12: 23 New
            +3
            Would you like to listen?
            I don’t want .. I’m writing on the topic .. and you should discuss all your eyes and accents ..
            so I immediately understood who you are. You are this ...
            I got it too. You're the one..))
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 22 July 2020 13: 05 New
              -15
              I don’t want .. I’m writing on the topic .. and you should discuss all your eyes and accents ..
              here


              this is the quality of your sad nullified tribe) communism / socialism warriors
            2. A good one
              A good one 22 July 2020 20: 52 New
              +1
              Quote: Roman123567
              Would you like to listen?
              I don’t want .. I’m writing on the topic .. and you should discuss all your eyes and accents ..
              so I immediately understood who you are. You are this ...
              I got it too. You're the one..))

              Comrade, your mustache is unstuck, someone in your numbering stuck a four or a quarter is sacred to you and your favorite container? wink
      2. SOVIET UNION 2
        SOVIET UNION 2 22 July 2020 12: 52 New
        0
        Tell me the country where most consumer goods are produced! Why did the USSR collapse? Didn't produce cars and goods for the people !? So? Is there an overproduction of cars and consumer goods in Russia today? Does Russia sell cars and consumer goods around the world? Have we bypassed Libya in terms of the number of cars per capita?
      3. SOVIET UNION 2
        SOVIET UNION 2 22 July 2020 12: 57 New
        11
        Russia has transportation and production costs.
        So is Russia dreaming of selling its resources, or is the West dreaming of exporting resources from Russia? It is the West that pulls pipes from Russia, trades in iron, aluminum, titanium, and Fish. forest? Is it Russia that sells brains or does the West buy brains? Why do graduates of institutes are trained, give jobs and housing?
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 22 July 2020 13: 03 New
          -25
          emo-communist, you have already been building a bright future for 70 years in the experiment and you have not grown together and you are not here to moan about pipes and selling resources (this was done by the USSR, before it became mainstream)

          Have we bypassed Libya in terms of the number of cars per capita?


          by the number of slaves that are sold on the market - Libya has gone around the whole world. If I had my will and resource, I would have sent you to Libya, depriving you of Russian citizenship.

          And I would send the snitch to Japan, where he would be given more preferences than greedy Moscow
          1. SOVIET UNION 2
            SOVIET UNION 2 22 July 2020 13: 19 New
            11
            Petrov-Patriot of the West! Russia has been building a new Russia for 30 years already, and this new Russia is no match for the Soviet Union! How much has been done in the USSR in 30 years, and how much has been destroyed in 30 years in New Russia! Achievements zero, and shit on the USSR is above the roof!
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 22 July 2020 13: 21 New
              -22
              Achievements zero, and shit on the USSR is above the roof!


              so because the waffles of the USSR protect (I don't know why communism was so lucky with its defenders in the 21st century). As in the moment of the revolution, the same waffles defended their country and their USSR, for which they are now whining in forums.

              1. SOVIET UNION 2
                SOVIET UNION 2 22 July 2020 13: 26 New
                +7
                Do not worry! In the event that the supreme power is cleared, its defenders will not be many. Mostly they will come from the circle of supreme power! And all revolutions, as we know, are made by the tsar's retinue! Who overthrew Nicholas II? Who overthrew Khrushchev?
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 22 July 2020 13: 28 New
                  -16
                  In the event of a purge of the supreme power, its defenders will not be many


                  oh everyone, crawl by) wet dreamer) which can be exactly zero
                  To cleanse someone, you need to take responsibility and overcome fear - this is about men, not about you)

                  Defender of communism - failed)

                  Mostly they will come from the circle of supreme power.

                  each waffle must read the oath of a Russian soldier. It says who and what should be protected.

                  And when you read it, your brain will begin to realize that the soldiers of the Russian Federation have vowed for more than 10 years to defend, including the constitutional order, and to carry out the orders of the commander-in-chief.

                  Therefore, the waffle has no chance.

          2. balunn
            balunn 22 July 2020 14: 10 New
            +3
            we must shoot right away, what can we do here ...
            Well, there are more prisons with camps, where all those who disagree with the EP policy and the leader should be sent
      4. SOVIET UNION 2
        SOVIET UNION 2 22 July 2020 13: 14 New
        12
        So pump what they have
        Who is this? What is your opinion on the constitution and amendments to the constitution of the Russian Federation? My opinion? My opinion is that the government is very happy with the constitution of the 90s! And the additions? And the additions are additions to the constitution where the rights and obligations of the supreme power are prescribed! If that constitution did not suit the authorities, they would accept another! But they didn't! Why? Because completely satisfied! What does the new constitution give to the population? Do you have the right to work? Free admission and treatment? Under the new amendments, will they again collect money for treatment by SMS or by boxes for helping patients? What salary does the constitution guarantee? How much is the minimum payment per hour? What is the maximum working time per day, per week, per month? Do you have the right to housing and housing? Is there a guarantee of pension and disability benefits? We have a solidarity pension system. Why solidarity, and not from the budget as in the USSR? Why is it impossible to pay pensions as a percentage of the company's profit? When the solidarity system was adopted, they did not know that the number of pensioners would grow? What share of the profits can be appropriated by a private owner under the new amendments to the constitution? Who does not have the right to have dual citizenship and do foreign citizens have the right to hold executive positions in Russian companies? For example Gazprom or Sberbank? Why were these questions gone in the amendments? So in whose interest are the amendments adopted? Sergeant Petrov is a clear agent of the West and is clearly working against Russia!
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 22 July 2020 13: 17 New
          -17
          Sergeant Petrov is a clear agent of the West and is clearly working against Russia!


          I reset you to zero, sad) and you once again endured, light pink (well, not red) emo communist.

          PS Let's read the communist oath together via video link? Let's analyze it and your actions to protect the state system. Well, or if you're just standing here at all - then we will discuss the actions of real communists in the period from 1987 to 1995
          1. SOVIET UNION 2
            SOVIET UNION 2 22 July 2020 13: 21 New
            +4
            Let's analyze your actions publicly! Is it stupid?
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 22 July 2020 13: 24 New
              -15
              ))) another one..

              Bored?


              whom? you? light pink warriors of communism? You couldn't even protect yours. Is your question a joke?
              1. SOVIET UNION 2
                SOVIET UNION 2 22 July 2020 13: 33 New
                +9
                You couldn't even protect yours. Is your question a joke?
                Is your question a joke too? Arrest of diplomatic property in the United States. They could not protect either! Not admitted to the Olympics. They could not protect either! Imposed sanctions. They also could not protect and even gave them to the states! Ukraine! Stupidly given to the states in exchange for the Crimea! Those who in the LDNR opposed Ukraine stupidly cleaned up! Amendments to the constitution! Stupidly supported the US Constitution in Russia by making amendments regarding the supreme power of Russia! Stunned! Where is the protection ???
          2. andrew42
            andrew42 22 July 2020 14: 17 New
            +5
            Petrov, our dear provocateur. Why video communication? Ask for one-to-one meetings right away. And without witnesses. There are no fools here, no one will invest themselves for you through the writing channels. You want a lot, and for free.
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 22 July 2020 15: 55 New
              -8
              Petrov, our dear provocateur. Why video communication? Ask for one-to-one meetings right away. And without witnesses. There are no fools here, no one will invest themselves for you through the writing channels. You want a lot, and for free.


              And what is it? Why am I not dumb, but you, sad, dumb?
              After all, it must be dumb to me, I'm a kremlebot. Not our pink and red plankton

              The waffles are going to "clean" the moderators' accomplices, but here the communication channel is confusing

              Light pink, what to take from you?
    2. Uncle Vanya Susanin
      Uncle Vanya Susanin 22 July 2020 14: 46 New
      0
      Why don't you like our fossils, that's why our ancestors buried these territories, so that now we would have a competitive advantage!
  • WIKI
    WIKI 22 July 2020 11: 44 New
    11
    Quote: c-Petrov
    Independence at the expense of Russia and from Russia.

    Russia, unwillingly, gave Ukraine $ 5,7 billion, this is another loan from the IMF. They will save from falling energy prices, which cost 12 billion a year. The think tank, represented by one person, has not worked out in this regard, however.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 22 July 2020 11: 47 New
      -16
      Russia, unwillingly, donated $ 5,7 billion to Ukraine

      Do not hesitate, Russia will take its own.

      The think tank, represented by one person, has not worked out in this regard, however.

      it is naive to think that the person from the office thinks in one person.

      PS about 5 billion - Russia has invested only 20 in the Crimea. Russia cannot afford it.

      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 22 July 2020 12: 07 New
        14
        On YaP, everything is chewed in detail, what and how is happening in Khabarovsk and the reasons. And already as a few days ago. And on the case, the locals got sick of the policy of the "maskvache" in relation to the rest of the territory of Russia, as to a colony for pumping out resources. If we talk about Khabarovsk, there they have China and Korea and Japan close by, you can get more preferences from them than from the greedy "mask" and the notorious "Crimea", which here, like a favorite rattle, "poztreoty" shake at every corner, they And Nafin didn’t give up - it’s cheaper and more convenient for them to travel to the Asian region. Nafig, they have this gaster "mask" ... they want to manage their resources and their lives themselves, and yes, this is separatism: ...
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 22 July 2020 12: 58 New
          -20
          If we talk about Khabarovsk, there they have China and Korea and Japan close by, you can get more preferences from them than from the greedy "mask" and the notorious "Crimea", which here, like a favorite rattle, "poztreoty" shake at every corner, they and nafin did not surrender


          laughing you yourself do not equal the inhabitants of Russia. With you, everything has been clear for a long time

          And about Crimea - not for you, zeroed, grieve about it) For Russia - Crimea in 2014 - there was a holiday - which once again proves - that your tribe has little to do with Russia

          Your bunch here, whining, can do nothing for many, many years. You are an error on the body of my Motherland)

          and yes it is seperatism: ...


          nothing, the characters are sad and independent will suffer, as you have suffered for many years. Nothing new here either.

          Catch the pluses from the ukroariyev-brothers. This is your ceiling

          Regarding how you write the name of the capital - well, you are sad and dull. What else to take from you?


      2. WIKI
        WIKI 22 July 2020 12: 53 New
        +8
        Quote: c-Petrov
        Do not hesitate, Russia will take its own.

        We can clearly see the fact that in Russia the arithmetic action "take away" is successfully used from this article, and not only from it. The multiplication sign is mainly used for a certain circle of people. And what they invested in Crimea will be more than offset by the money taken away by the pension reform. By 2027, the budget savings from it will amount to $ 120 billion. Rotenbergs on the bridge from this obviously something will fall.
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 22 July 2020 13: 42 New
        10
        Quote: c-Petrov
        Do not hesitate, Russia will take its own.

        Yes, yes, I remember how Russia "took" its own, recognizing tens of billions of dollars as irrecoverable, and wrote them off for no apparent reason at all.
        When will he take that, huh? Petrov, has logic left you? wink
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 22 July 2020 13: 52 New
          -13
          recognized as irrecoverable tens of billions of dollars


          at first I thought you were smart. And he was delicate with you. But now I see that it is all useless.

          PS when you figure out how to siphon $ 30 billion from Cuba without deteriorating relations, then present it to Volodya, right?



          Yes, yes, I remember how Russia "took" its

          you don't remember anything, but nothing. You yourself understand - who cares, what do you remember there, and what not
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 22 July 2020 14: 27 New
            +7
            Quote: c-Petrov
            when you figure out how to siphon $ 30 billion from Cuba without deteriorating relations, then you will present it to Volodya, right?

            Yes, the mind has limits, stupidity never. This is me, in general, without the purpose of offending.
            Why write off debts if the debtor is currently insolvent? They don't ask for food. And later they can be taken in kind when the need arises for a naval / air force base in Cuba. But you do not know this, the processor is weak, does not pull? wink
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 22 July 2020 16: 10 New
              -10
              But you do not know this, the processor is weak, does not pull? wink

              And later you can take them in kind

              So you say that Russia has not received anything from the debt cancellation?
              How long have you considered yourself so smart, with such a fast processor?
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 23 July 2020 08: 09 New
                0
                Refute the postulate, voice the nishtyaks that we got. wink
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 24 July 2020 13: 41 New
                  -4
                  Rosneft conducts geological exploration on the Cuban shelf, modernizes the Cienfuegos refinery
                  it's on the surface.
                  And without an aggressive war. Volodya is a master.

                  And it will be necessary - the base will be there. We don't have a Zelensky waffle at the helm.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 24 July 2020 15: 40 New
                    -1
                    Yes, yes, but there can be no joint work without forgiven debts?
  • A.Lex
    A.Lex 23 July 2020 12: 08 New
    -1
    I agree with you, Comrade Petrov. That's just (about the article) I have an addition. The author blurted out here somehow
    ... a task force arrives, packs Furgal and also takes him to Moscow. Investigate his participation in cases for which the LONGER TIME IS OUT ... (emphasis mine)
    ................. I'm wondering, and if the author is killed by a VERY CLOSE person (God forbid, of course), then how much he will care about the expiration of the murder period ??? And if the murder is committed by those who, in the future, will take the high post of an official ??? Author, will you forgive such a thing ??? Forget it ??? ... the statute of limitations will expire ....................
    One more point: those who switch to the civil service should stop doing business (this is if the law is roughly interpreted) (even more so such a FALSE translation to the wife is something with something) ...
  • Dreamboat
    Dreamboat 25 July 2020 15: 53 New
    0
    How these custom hackers got them, they just take people for idiots!
    Lies from the article, direct and obvious:
    1. The limitation period has expired. NO, NOT EXPIRED! Furgalu shines part 2 of Art. 105 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, which provides for the death penalty and life imprisonment. See st. 78 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, part 4. "4. The question of the application of the statute of limitations to a person who has committed a crime punishable by death or life imprisonment is decided by the court. then the death penalty and life imprisonment do not apply. " That is, there can be no automatic termination of criminal prosecution, as well as release by the decision of the investigation. Since several aggravating circumstances are incriminated at once, the court will not apply the exemption with a probability of 99%.
    2. Prejudice in criminal law. This is generally complete nonsense. Prejudice applies only in civil disputes and only if the previous court's decision was in a dispute between the same persons! Under criminal law, the PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE applies! Nothing except a court decision in relation to a person can convict him of a crime!
    So listen further to such deceitful scribblers about transactions in the pre-trial detention center, about the "honest deputy" Furgal (then just a Duma deputy), who bought this Amurstal (Amurmetal, to be exact) for just 2.4 billion rubles in 2017 through bankruptcy (at the price of a small store in Moscow) (https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3205630). They are for money from murderers and raiders and not such a mess!
  • Pardus
    Pardus 22 July 2020 12: 37 New
    23
    Everywhere and in everything the lust for money and power is to blame ...
  • Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 22 July 2020 15: 12 New
    10
    Quote: Igoresha
    In Ukraine, there was such a kleptomaniac Yanukovych, he dragged and took away even from his colleagues in the Party of Regions.

    I'm interested in something else. As Roman writes,
    The plant belonged to Arkady Rotenberg, Boris Rotenberg, Sergey Furgal and Nikolai Mistryukov.

    But how did ALL THEY get possession over it? Have you given half a century to work at the plant, from handyman to director? Or is it the "saints of the 90s"? So there is nothing to be surprised at. Rats in a cage devour the weakest companions one after another. But they are all rats.
    1. Beregovic_1
      Beregovic_1 23 July 2020 00: 23 New
      +3
      First adequate comment on the merits. Rats are. But Furgal is for the Khabarovsk residents their own, Far Eastern rat chosen by the people. And the Rotenbergs are the same killers, but from the St. Petersburg group. In general, nothing will break off from this bickering. The bridge will be built, the money will be stolen, the yachts will be bought.
  • King3214
    King3214 22 July 2020 16: 12 New
    +2
    What can you squeeze from Sasha? There are only swamps and junk of the Soviet period. The USSR has not been for 30 years already, come to your senses, comrade!
  • King3214
    King3214 22 July 2020 16: 12 New
    0
    What can you squeeze from Sasha? There are only swamps and junk of the Soviet period. The USSR has not been for 30 years already, come to your senses, comrade!
  • Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 23 July 2020 08: 56 New
    0
    I'm surprised at you and others like that, like grown-up people and ... The situation with Furgal does not remind you of the American events with Floyd's death in any way ?? They made a Style Icon out of a criminal !!! And people like you !!! Let the IC calmly investigate. In the United States, it is the same - let the police calmly figure it out and that's it !!! But for someone it is profitable, profitable to raise HYIP. Interestingly, your guru Zyuganov and co ... SILENT !!! And I would have started the UD for the 1996 elections. As he chickened out and BOTTOM his constituents, he too was involved in rigging the results. Stop raising the information FOAM !! Read Kompromat.ru. Fupgal is one of the leaders of the OPS in the Far East !!! And the Communists are actively supporting him ...
  • zenion
    zenion 23 July 2020 16: 48 New
    +1
    Does the former Putin have anything to do with what was happening in the 90s, or is he like an angel and wings are white and fluffy. If we take it, then start with those who sold the oath and destroyed the country.
  • Alekseev
    Alekseev 24 July 2020 07: 37 New
    0
    "It's hard to be surprised"
    When discussing "opposition" topics, the selection of participants is just amazing.
    Or ardent communists, or Bolsheviks, or those who believe in Roman's "proofs" as in the truth of truths, or broad supporters of sovereignty from Nenka and Belarus. They pinned the Old Man to Furgal just to prove that Putin is not good ...
    Money, judokas ... Babbling at the level of a television series ...
    How did this furgal get everything he had acquired through back-breaking labor? Let Roma napmshet about that. And what exactly did he do for the Far East personally that created such love for him?
    And who loves him, and what is the price list for love?
  • zenion
    zenion 26 July 2020 18: 25 New
    0
    Isn't money politics?
  • Finches
    Finches 22 July 2020 10: 15 New
    -5
    Eco is unprecedented - that everything under capitalism is based on grandmothers, I learned about this in my golden childhood when I read Dunno on the Moon. And grandfather Lenin put it more scientifically - Politics is a concentrated expression of economics.
    If we abstract from what is happening, then tell me the difference, to be honest, who will profit from “Amurstal” - a clan of judokas or a clan of synchronized swimmers? Absolutely none! I have nothing to do with either the first or the second - I am generally a chess player! laughing And whether he is an honest governor or a murderer - let the court decide ...
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 22 July 2020 10: 20 New
      13
      What difference does it make to me, to be honest, who will profit from Amurstal - the judoka clan or the synchronized swimmers clan?


      Exactly .. that's why we need to give them all the factories / enterprises / resources .. and up to a heap, 99% of all money .. We still have nothing to do with this ..
      And then let their court decide where we are still wrong ..))
      1. Sancho_SP
        Sancho_SP 22 July 2020 10: 34 New
        -9
        Are you offering to go and get it? Oh wei ..
        1. Roman123567
          Roman123567 22 July 2020 10: 48 New
          +5
          I wrote in Russian - I propose to go and report back to them from my pocket ..
      2. Finches
        Finches 22 July 2020 10: 34 New
        -2
        We gave everything to them anyway - in 1991! laughing
        1. Roman123567
          Roman123567 22 July 2020 10: 49 New
          0
          They ate what you sent last week.
          Otherwise, this article would not exist ..
          1. Finches
            Finches 22 July 2020 10: 50 New
            -7
            Well, then what difference does it make to you before this division? Personally for you?
            1. Roman123567
              Roman123567 22 July 2020 12: 02 New
              10
              Personally, the difference to me is that I support those who came out to rally against the criminal government in the Kremlin ..
              Yes, everyone steals everywhere .. all over the world .. But there ministers / rulers leave and resign .. and they are not so alienated from the people .. and they do not lose their shores ..
              And only in 20 years we have accustomed our government to the fact that the mafia can have its own state ... and rule like Mugabe ..
              1. Finches
                Finches 22 July 2020 13: 02 New
                -18
                Are you deliberately twisting or on purpose? I see a lot of positive things in Putin’s leadership and I don’t see what you are writing about at all! And, judging by everyone, people like you are a minority in Russia ... Yes, if you have already slipped to democracy, then there must be a change of power and other liberal crap ... But personally, I am afraid of this most of all - so let the dictator rule Putin with his judokas than any moral one ... without a tsar in his head - like Gorbachev or Yeltsin!
                1. Roman123567
                  Roman123567 22 July 2020 13: 24 New
                  +4
                  You deliberately distort
                  I still spoke softly ..
                  I see a lot of positives in Putin's leadership
                  Yes, I know what you see .. For example, it’s impossible to drive in the yard .. and LCD TVs are hanging on the walls, not b / w Records ..

                  The problem is not whether you see it or not .. but that it has nothing to do with the leadership and has nothing to do with Putin ..
                  Well, something like the Bedouins used to ride camels with a quiver of arrows .. and now they cut them on Toyota cars with Kalash .. And maybe even one of them also says that "he sees a lot of positive in the leadership of their leader"

                  and I do not see at all what you are writing about!
                  What can I say ..
                  There is this article .. there is a city where people speak out about this ..
                  Yes, I agree, on TV from morning till night there are no reports about it, and every half hour they do not drive this information into the brain .. Nevertheless, you can see it ..

                  And, judging by everyone, people like you are a minority in Russia ... Yes, if you have already slipped to democracy, then there must be a change of power and other liberal crap ... But personally, I am afraid of this most of all - so let the dictator rule Putin with his judokas,


                  Ha .. Why am I a minority .. if you yourself are the same ..))
                  Only at first he called black - white .. and then suddenly admitted that you understand everything, but you are just afraid to pronounce the word "black" ..

                  than any moral ... without a tsar in my head - like Gorbachev or Yeltsin!
                  I really don't understand .. do people really believe that Putin is not a continuation of Yeltsin ..
                  Is pure looks important ?? What doesn’t thump and don’t do it ?? Is that the only thing that matters ??
                  So in the whole world quite decent rulers .. At least Macron, at least Trudeau. at least take anyone .. Well, if you judge by business .. so pure Yeltsin .. And the joke is that you are just afraid to remove this "Yeltsin" ..
                  1. Finches
                    Finches 22 July 2020 13: 28 New
                    -10
                    Well, what to you, forgive me, nonsense to answer .... I wrote to you below that today some mental disorders are quite successfully treated - the main thing is not to start them! laughing hi
                2. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 22 July 2020 14: 16 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Finches
                  I see a lot of positives in Putin's leadership

                  Are you on the Rotenberg team? Or Sechin?
                  1. Finches
                    Finches 22 July 2020 14: 16 New
                    -7
                    I am a military pensioner in a team named after myself! laughing
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 22 July 2020 14: 18 New
                      +3
                      Then what positive do you see? And not only for yourself, but for the entire population?
                      1. Finches
                        Finches 22 July 2020 14: 24 New
                        -6
                        I wrote about this 1000 times here and all this has made me sore on edge - if you don't see anything positive in our country, well, God be with you, but I see, I see also disadvantages - where without them, but this is how everything is learned in comparison I will say that today there is more positive than negative and much better than it was 10 or 20 years ago - that is, there is a positive trend! And I do not want to throw and change - let it go on as usual, but go and go forward!
                      2. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 22 July 2020 14: 28 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Finches
                        let it go on as usual, but go ahead and go!

                        If it were going forward, I would not argue with you. Slowly but surely we roll back.
                      3. Finches
                        Finches 22 July 2020 14: 30 New
                        -9
                        This is also a controversial proposition - you think that we are rolling backwards, I think differently, understanding both the challenges and difficulties that our country had to face and the reaction of the country's leadership to these difficulties ... On the other branch, I gave a couple of statistical examples, what kind of For 20 years, more than 70 ships, including submarines, were in service with the Navy, and before that, for 20 years, they killed both the fleet and industry in the trash - nothing was released - movement? Motion! The first exporters of bread in the world, and before that we bought bread - a movement? Motion! Who also produces all this ... And the global rearmament of the army is a grandiose program in its scale - I saw it all with my own eyes ... According to the IMF and the World Bank, according to the gross domestic product calculated at purchasing power parity at current prices is in 6th place in the world ... This is taking into account the sanctions and the economic crisis ... In short, all our bickering is empty! It's just that everyone remains unconvinced and no more, or everyone sees what he wants to see! hi
    2. Essex62
      Essex62 22 July 2020 10: 58 New
      +4
      Not at 93m. Sitting on the couch watching a militant on TV called "the destruction of Soviet power"
      You have given away.
      1. Finches
        Finches 22 July 2020 11: 03 New
        -12
        In 93 there was no longer that country - then there was also something similar, only the mountain was bigger! The clan of violent alcoholics, but on tanks, shot the clan of the rabble-dweller who had no tanks, and the people, mainly represented by the active lumpen proletariat, were used by both clans in the form of carcasses for bloody extras ...
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 23 July 2020 08: 01 New
          -3
          For me, you no longer exist on the site. For insulting me and the blessed memory of my fallen comrades.
  • ghby
    ghby 22 July 2020 10: 33 New
    10
    Quote: Finches
    If we abstract from what is happening, then tell me the difference, to be honest, who will profit from “Amurstal” - a clan of judokas or a clan of synchronized swimmers? Absolutely none! I have nothing to do with either the first or the second - I am generally a chess player! And whether he is an honest governor or a murderer - let the court decide ...

    Everything is familiar, our metalwork plant became a stumbling block (according to unspoken sources for the construction of the Crimean bridge, the same names were squeezed out), Shishov was imprisoned, the office is under bankruptcy, the plant continues to work. True, there was something to plant for (financial tax crimes).
  • Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 22 July 2020 11: 01 New
    30
    Quote: Finches
    If we abstract from what is happening, then tell me the difference, to be honest, who will profit from Amurstal

    The fundamental difference. And it's bad that you don't realize it.
    Look, for example .... On lockheed martin, or there huavei. Can you imagine their owners being flattened on charges of destroying the Wall of China in the 15th century, or raping a parrot at the n york zoo? In order to squeeze out the shares? The picture does not appear, right?
    Business in Russia is an occupation for extreme people who are deeply addicted to adrenaline. Well, if there is no personal sparring partner, who should be sparring partners. So they bring down money from Russia, they bring it down at an accelerated pace. A trillion dollars without kopecks during Putinism. For investing in the shares of some Sony music, or in the purchase of a vineyard in Italy, it may not be very profitable, but adequate. But in the construction of a plant in Russia ... This is for the sick. And the price that Russia has already paid for the appetites of the fighters from the St. And this is 3-4 million jobs that would appear in these very corporations and smaller companies tied to them, and GDP growth by 4-5 times. Here is the price of what you don't care.
    1. Finches
      Finches 22 July 2020 11: 06 New
      -9
      I saw here how in China one billionaire, the owner of factories, newspapers, ships ..., was sentenced to the highest measure of social protection! He, probably, was also like me - naive, did not understand some mythical "fundamental" difference! : laughing
      1. Finches
        Finches 22 July 2020 11: 22 New
        -12
        By the way, the example with Huawei ... - to the point! The Americans simply took and arrested the daughter of the head of the company and also its findirector with the hands of the Canadians!
        Take off your rose-colored glasses - in the yard, as Arnold Schwarzenegger said in one famous film: "Capitalismus!" , and under capitalism the concept of "justice" is just a word!
        1. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi 22 July 2020 11: 35 New
          26
          Quote: Finches
          The Americans simply took and arrested the daughter of the head of the company and also its findirector with the hands of the Canadians!

          Kind...
          Quote: Finches
          Take off the rose-colored glasses

          The Americans arrested the head of the corporation of the enemy country. They strike at a stranger economy. In our country, Amurstal is being drained of abominations that tried to sell that very Amurstal two years ago the Chinese... And he will sell it as soon as the necessary bridge is completed, and the freebie of the state order ends. Those. for the sake of profit for 2-3 people, an extremely important enterprise will come under the hand of our "partners".
          Another victory of the interests of judoists over the interests of the country. Is it already possible to shout hurray? Or wait until Amurstal officially becomes Chinese, when the Wrotenberg pocket will slightly replenish?
          1. flicker
            flicker 22 July 2020 14: 05 New
            -6
            will the Wrotenberg pocket be slightly replenished?
            And why don't you write about the pocket of Vvekselberg or Vlevaev? bully
        2. Roman123567
          Roman123567 22 July 2020 12: 05 New
          +9
          Huawei ... - to the point! The Americans just took and arrested the daughter of the head of the company with the hands of the Canadians

          Shta ?? Americans ?? I mean - enemies??
          And Furgala too American enemies arrested ??
          Take off the rose-colored glasses
      2. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi 22 July 2020 11: 28 New
        30
        Quote: Finches
        I saw a billionaire in China

        Okhohoyushki ... That's why they invest in China that such billionaires, Chinese analogs of the Wrotenbergs, are still imprisoned and shot. Exactly for the same shooting, for which our vrotenberg stars of heroes are hung. By the way, the patron saint of this unfortunate billionaire, an analogue of our Interior Minister, is also in prison. Corruption, bribes, etc. And we have? Can you give many analogies? Although the CPC Central Committee remembers itself, it first of all thinks about the country, here ... The interests of sparring partners are above all. That is why Russia lost the economic race to China.
        1. Finches
          Finches 22 July 2020 11: 32 New
          -17
          No, they also have their own clans - as elsewhere! But the system for selecting officials will be tougher - that's a fact! And we lost because - China smeared its bawlers in 1989 on the paving stones of the Tian'an Men Square, and it did not have a period of 10 years of total collapse of everything and everything, plus purely economic reasons, a very cheap labor market, minimal infrastructure costs etc. Please do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs!
          1. andrew42
            andrew42 22 July 2020 14: 38 New
            +9
            Zyablitsev, the impression is that under your nickname they write 2 different entities. Are the smeared "bawlers" of China communists? No, these are just those "Kolya Travkins" from the Democratic Party of Russia, behind which the Gaidars-Chubais usually stand, and behind them the employers from across the hill. In China, "smearing Tianyangmen" was just to prevent naive "Westerners" from entering the Liquidation Commission for selling the PRC to American uncles. The CCP rested, but not harshly, but pragmatically, and ... won a real (!) Partnership with Western bourgeois, instead of becoming a dismembered cow. From socialism, the Chinese descended to the power of the Red Emperor with dignitaries, but at the same time they did not give their people to Western corporations for livelihood. that's why there was no collapse in China. - Because the potential "Gorby - Yakovlev - Shevardnadze" was shot and not allowed to climb onto the barrel. The Chinese leadership so far clearly understands that the "owners of big money" cannot be given political power - they will sell the future of generations with giblets, and the Chinese remember very well how bad it is when you do not have your own country.
            1. Finches
              Finches 22 July 2020 14: 46 New
              -8
              I do not quite understand you ... By smeared bawlers, I meant a liberal-democratic corrupt trash, such as Gorbachev-Yakovlev-Yeltsin and their minor followers, who destroyed our country! So I just didn't understand you! hi
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    2. Hagen
      Hagen 22 July 2020 11: 29 New
      -18
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      Can you imagine their owners being flattened on charges of destroying the wall of China in the 15th century, or raping a parrot at the n york zoo?

      Furgala is suspected of organizing a murder 15 years ago. The victims who have lost their breadwinner are still alive, by the way, a part-time person. Not everyone can compare him with a raped parrot. But you, you see, everything is one, just to put Putin on the boot. You are funny people, the right word ... I would suggest waiting for the results of the investigation, appeals, etc., and not building castles on the sand.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 22 July 2020 11: 38 New
        -14
        Funny you people


        wet dreamers, patient and whining 20 years
      2. Finches
        Finches 22 July 2020 11: 39 New
        -19
        If you don't explain, they won't understand! Or they will not want to understand ... The main thing is to write that Putin is a dictator. laughing I call these people blinkers!
        1. Hagen
          Hagen 22 July 2020 12: 01 New
          -13
          Quote: Finches
          I call these people blinkers!

          In my understanding, this is such a sect. They believed in the infallibility of the views they represent and arrogantly teach everyone else with unsubstantiated slogans how to represent reality. I agree that it makes no sense to convince them of anything. It just burst out ... laughing True, there are other versions about the origin of the opponents. But I don't think it's worth voicing them yet ...
        2. andrew42
          andrew42 22 July 2020 14: 47 New
          12
          Again you have jerkiness. "Putin the dictator" is the slogan of the liberals. Putin is not a dictator at all, he is an arbiter for resolving disputes between oligarchic clans, and is responsible for their external security, so that evil uncles do not wrest assets from clans from across the hill. The lot of the rest of the population is fiscal "serfdom" and speedy digitization.
          1. Finches
            Finches 22 July 2020 14: 49 New
            -8
            This is the essence of the capitalist system - and this is true about the slogan! It is here that he is called so! laughing
      3. Roman123567
        Roman123567 22 July 2020 12: 09 New
        13
        I would suggest waiting for the results of the investigation

        Wait ..))
        The price of everything that happens is written in Russian above !!
        So you don't have to build sand castles ..
        The guys from the Kremlin took up this case, not knowing how the trial will end ?? You are funny people, the right word ...
        1. Hagen
          Hagen 22 July 2020 12: 21 New
          -14
          Quote: Roman123567
          Wait ..))

          You, too, will have to wait ... Do you think that someone will notice you? ..... Although for you this is just the best outcome wassat
          1. Roman123567
            Roman123567 22 July 2020 13: 26 New
            +4
            You will have to wait too ...
            What ??
            Everything is already known in advance .. +/-
        2. Finches
          Finches 22 July 2020 13: 04 New
          -10
          So what? One Furgal will be less! Or is he white and fluffy, and his bad uncles offend? laughing
      4. BAI
        BAI 22 July 2020 12: 48 New
        13
        Furgala is suspected of organizing a murder 15 years ago.

        Suspicions. Both Kadyrovs (senior and junior) show the well-known killings of Russian soldiers. So what? Glory to the heroes?
        And suspicion, in general, is immeasurable. One Politkovskaya is worth it.
        1. Finches
          Finches 22 July 2020 13: 06 New
          -10
          Like a sect - if the national traitor Politkovskaya was remembered, then everything is clear where the wind is blowing from ... laughing
          1. Mishka78
            Mishka78 22 July 2020 13: 56 New
            +8
            Friends, do you not cross the border in your insanity?
            She is human. She is a citizen of Russia. She is a member of society, which our state is obliged to protect by all means.
            And the fact that she is a national traitor does not diminish her rights.
            And if she was tried, say, for treason and convicted - that would be one thing. And she was just shot.
            1. Finches
              Finches 22 July 2020 13: 58 New
              -8
              This is bad, I agree!
  • basmach
    basmach 22 July 2020 11: 14 New
    13
    Well, Zyablintsev is already starting to change his shoes while jumping
    1. Finches
      Finches 22 July 2020 11: 20 New
      -12
      What are you talking about again? I have always said that I am a staunch supporter of the socialist development of our country, but unfortunately, this is impossible today because the theory of Socialism stopped developing, especially its economic part, back in 1952 ... The country was rolling on the baggage of the mobilization Stalinist economy, but so and could not rebuild on a peaceful track! Unfortunately! This, by the way, largely predetermined the economic crisis of the 80s! Because there are no theorists of Socialism left - only such bawlers as you or the clown Platoshkin remained! Nothing serious can be offered to the people - therefore the people are forced to live under capitalism and not live particularly badly, I would say, and this is also the merit of the GDP, which I respect - and this infuriates you! But you can't do anything anyway! hi
  • WIKI
    WIKI 22 July 2020 11: 56 New
    +9
    Quote: Finches
    If we abstract from what is happening, then tell me the difference, to be honest, who will profit from “Amurstal” - a clan of judokas or a clan of synchronized swimmers?

    And whether he is an honest governor or a murderer - let the court decide ...
    In my opinion, with your position you are standing in a raskoryachka. In one case, the yardstick of justice for you is the court, and on the other, lawlessness.
    1. Finches
      Finches 22 July 2020 13: 07 New
      -12
      And where do you see chaos - I personally, on the contrary, see order and confirmation of the proverb that how many rope does not twist ...
      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 22 July 2020 20: 20 New
        0
        Quote: Finches
        And where do you see chaos - I personally, on the contrary, see order and confirmation of the proverb that how many rope does not twist ...

        ... but the elephant has more bells anyway.
        1. Finches
          Finches 22 July 2020 20: 21 New
          0
          In our army they said that no matter how much you feed the wolf, the bear is still thicker ... laughing
          1. Sklendarka
            Sklendarka 22 July 2020 20: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: Finches
            In our army they said that no matter how much you feed the wolf, the bear is still thicker ... laughing

            No, we say, the further into the forest, the thicker the partisans ...
            1. Finches
              Finches 22 July 2020 20: 58 New
              -2
              I don’t know - but a partisan - there are enough Internet fighters with a "totalitarian" regime on VO - most likely people who are offended by life, who have not been able to cope with any difficulties, who are broken, drunk ... Many reasons! And they cannot be judged strictly - this is life and human nature!
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 22 July 2020 12: 12 New
    +6
    The most interesting thing is that I studied all this in a more concise form two days ago on ... Ukrainian resources! belay
    So, indeed, Openel's secret.
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 22 July 2020 12: 28 New
    +4
    Quote: Finches
    who will profit from Amurstal - the judoka clan or the synchronized swimmers clan?

    he just wanted to sell shares to three Chinese enterprises for about 2,6 billion rubles.
    Here is the main thing that you have not noticed!
  • Kisa
    Kisa 22 July 2020 16: 04 New
    +1
    here is just the same question of principle - did the judokas really intend to bankrupt the plant. by the way it really is a working scheme in the Far East and on it the Dalzavod PSRZ NSRZ and a lot of things were killed for little things - here I am in solidarity with the Khabarovsk residents. but as the author writes in 18, some plans in 19m others .... there were no confirmed rumors for a bridge to Sakhalin in the last hungry years. in the fat years, yes there were plans at the level of gossip - the bridge across Sakhalin, the bridge to Hokaido, to revive the BAM, contract the Japanese from here, and constant flirting about the Kuril Islands ... but in recent years there is no time for grandiose construction projects. got stuck with the pipe, no one knows how it will end
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 22 July 2020 10: 16 New
    +2
    I look at this honest (bald) face in the photo .. and I do not believe that everything written can be true ..
    Why does he need money .. he does not want to sell a trailer for 20 years ..
    1. _Sergei_
      _Sergei_ 22 July 2020 10: 19 New
      +1
      Something I did not notice here is the author's photograph.
      1. Roman123567
        Roman123567 22 July 2020 10: 21 New
        +3
        Yes, you generally did not notice a lot of things .. and you won't notice already ..))
  • 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 22 July 2020 10: 16 New
    11
    The saddest thing is that it all looks like the truth ..
    1. Mishka78
      Mishka78 22 July 2020 14: 02 New
      +9
      This story is already several days old. I wasted a couple of hours of time. I checked the filing of arbitration cases, checked the ownership structure through the focus outline, checked the data on personalities using open sources. This is not difficult. And I have to report - all this is very similar to the truth.
      The only thing is that I do not understand what the article calls prejudice and how much it corresponds to reality.
      Everything is very pragmatic. Squeeze out the factory + squeeze the presumptuous governor not from their own.
      Have you seen his conversation with Trutnev? "Your rating is growing, but the presidential rating is decreasing. And this is very sad" ...
  • antivirus
    antivirus 22 July 2020 10: 17 New
    +9
    consider all issues wider - Moscow will come to the Far East in all areas of business
  • parusnik
    parusnik 22 July 2020 10: 20 New
    18
    - And you guys are still shooting?
    - What?
    - And the fact that they no longer shoot. Right now, they do business in a different way, not like your Mikhalych. Well, here's a truncated ... Karachun for you, Tsereteli!
    The interest of Balsky and the Rotenbergs behind him is obvious: why should the judo gentlemen divide the sums by four, if it is possible by three?
    ... We each have 4 thousand, Balaganov - two. He didn’t work even for two. And what about Kozlevich? For what? This is a robbery! Who is Kozlevich to share with him? We don't know any Kozlevich!
  • carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 22 July 2020 10: 24 New
    +1
    ooo away we go) Roman, why didn’t you start from the age of 16, when the Amurstal enterprise was in full and Furgal promised to get it out of the crisis?) to pull out your enterprise as you write) the future governor promises people before the elections) in itself all this does not surprise you? ) and when remind Furgal became the owner of the enterprise and how?) in 16) he sells himself and drags Belsky) only this theory has a problem) the only owner of Amurstal was Torex) and Belsky owned 50 percent of the shares there, too, since 16) all how does it not match the truth? all this is kapets how easy it is to check if that) do you know how much Torex bought the plant then?) 2.46 yards.
    1. seti
      seti 22 July 2020 11: 31 New
      -9
      Quote: carstorm 11
      ooo away we go) Roman, why didn’t you start from the age of 16, when the Amurstal enterprise was in full and Furgal promised to get it out of the crisis?) to pull out your enterprise as you write) the future governor promises people before the elections) in itself all this does not surprise you? ) and when remind Furgal became the owner of the enterprise and how?) in 16) he sells himself and drags Belsky) only this theory has a problem) the only owner of Amurstal was Torex) and Belsky owned 50 percent of the shares there, too, since 16) all how does it not match the truth? all this is kapets how easy it is to check if that) do you know how much Torex bought the plant then?) 2.46 yards.


      Most of those who read everything that is written in this article will take it at face value. After all, why check something there ...
      "Judo clan"
      What is it like
      brothers Bagrov
      - sounds the same ..
      I'd rather check the author .. The point will be put by the investigation and the court. If Furgal is clean, then let him receive compensation and let the guilty answer to the fullest extent of the Law.
      1. dauria
        dauria 22 July 2020 23: 41 New
        +2
        but let the guilty answer to the fullest extent of the Law.


        "You are to blame for the fact that I want to eat." He said and dragged the Lamb into the dark forest.

        Are the names of the owners of the plant correctly named? Right. Accident? Well, of course ... After that, I will only believe God's judgment.
    2. depressant
      depressant 22 July 2020 12: 21 New
      18
      This is what was said by a political scientist, professor of PNU Ildus Yarulin
      4th October 2019:

      “By and large, Amurstal and TOREX won. The entire top of these companies is represented in the regional Duma. I don’t know whose interests will be lobbied. But those who will support what Amurstal and TOREX need will certainly have some bonuses For many, of course, this is unexpected, we were witnesses to a seizure of power in the Khabarovsk Territory, but within the framework permitted by the Constitution, there is no violation of the law. "

      Hmmm ... Is this how the picture looks from the side?

      The steelmakers decided that they were now the masters of the Far East. And then the “judokas” came with their much stronger administrative resources.
      Along the way, people got involved, quite naturally doubting that the "judoists" would look after the interests of him, the local people, more zealously than the local "steelworkers". Because "steelworkers" are close, they can be reached by the demands of this and that, and "steelworkers" interested in their careers, in the stability of the situation, may make concessions. And the Moscow "judoists" do not care about the interests of the local people from the high towers of the Kremlin, because the region will fall into depression if only Amurstal is needed for the sake of a bridge to Sakhalin. Which is quite possible.
      When appointing Degtyarev to the post of governor of the Khabarovsk Territory, Putin called the region successful or said something like that. But is it? In the interests of the "success" of the region, that is, its own, its leadership has long grabbed and continued to grab debts above the roof, for a hundred years to come - that's what we are talking about! It is unlikely that the "judoists" and Degtyarev will attend to taking new loans so that the region "prospered" further. For them, the priority is for the plant to be theirs and work on the Sakhalin Bridge, and the people - it will be killed. The people disagree. But he has no trump cards. And only Putin, if he wants, will be able to shed a golden rain on the edge. In the interests of the population of the region and their own. So that they knew that they were not feeding from the hands of some wagons and tar, but from him, the king's. And so it will be. After which the population will calm down. The people instantly cut through the situation and therefore not so much spoke for Furgal as appealed to the center. It was the center that he threatened with disobedience. Along the way, advocating for justice and personal dignity. In general, who for what. For different things. And it will calm down at the very first drops of golden rain, extinguishing the fuse, but hiding it in case it does not grow together.
      What do we end up with? A milestone in the centralization of the state through bargaining between Putin and the population of the Khabarovsk Territory.
      So who am I for? For those who are for justice and dignity. There is such capitalism in the throat. Too messy. However, it cannot be different. But no other has yet been given.
  • businessv
    businessv 22 July 2020 10: 28 New
    11
    Let's see the development of events. How and where we will live tomorrow depends on what they show.
    Thank you, Roman! A very timely article that will sober up our impeccable lovers of morality, who, in the comments to the article about Furgal's landing, so cheerfully accused him of all mortal sins at least for a while! As always, Bismarck is right: "If it is not clear what the matter is, then the matter is in the money!"
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 22 July 2020 10: 30 New
      -11
      want to repeat?) he is a thief and a murderer. and the article is not Roman. all this has been walking for a couple of weeks or so almost literally on Yandex)
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 22 July 2020 10: 51 New
        11
        "Velurov on the phone: - I entered Mosestrada, as if I was in my own home, and now I go there, as to Golgotha!" - Scoundrels! - It's not true, they are fighting for you! "(C)
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        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 22 July 2020 10: 58 New
          -12
          oh go to the forest. prove your words, go to the prosecutor's office. Putin who killed there just to start. but about the fact that he is a thief is generally boring. another Navalny apparently
          1. Roman123567
            Roman123567 22 July 2020 11: 01 New
            +8
            Have you just returned from the prosecutor's office? He proved everything he wanted about Furgal ??)
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 22 July 2020 11: 06 New
              -9
              but why should I?) he was already accused without me) and even closed, imagine) so why jump off the topic? ) who did Putin kill there?)
              1. Roman123567
                Roman123567 22 July 2020 12: 12 New
                +3
                Politkovskaya, Nemtsov .. the list is not small, and I don’t know everyone, essno ..
                And Furgal who ??

                he was already accused without me)
                So what's the point when one killer / thief blames the other ??
                Abramovich and Berezovsky somehow litigated in the same way .. Did the victory of the first bring us a lot of joy ?? Or was it just that Roma was nicer on his face than Boris?
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 22 July 2020 12: 21 New
                  -7
                  and did not he destroy the church? don't be funny.
                  1. Roman123567
                    Roman123567 22 July 2020 13: 27 New
                    +5
                    and did not he destroy the church?
                    Not a church, but a factory .. And not one ..

                    don't be funny.
                    Well, you be funny .. continuing to believe that some Kadyrovite went off the rails and just went to shoot on the bridge in front of the Kremlin ..

                2. Finches
                  Finches 22 July 2020 13: 09 New
                  -10
                  Like a sect! Especially about the murder of the State Department lackey Nemtsov! And you Roma - it turns out the State Department lackey! You are a national traitor Roman ... Stop before it's too late! Or maybe you are not healthy, then my advice to you, go to the doctor, today many mental disorders are successfully treated ... hi
          2. parusnik
            parusnik 22 July 2020 11: 28 New
            11
            oh go to the forest. prove your words, go to the prosecutor's office. Putin who killed there just to start.
            /blo ... So you open our eyes to the fact that: [b]
            want to repeat?) he is a thief and a murderer.
            ... Publish materials, who, from what, where, Furgal killed, what and how much and where he stole .. It turns out about 15 years or more Furgal led the detectives by the nose, and then they overtook him, what fellows ... The witness was found. If he was found just now, then this is how many witnesses Furgalu had to remove in such a time, it turns out that his hands are covered in blood, in your words ...
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 22 July 2020 11: 47 New
              -5
              I have lived all my life in Khabarovsk. and is perfectly familiar with what this person is. to open your eyes to what? that the shobla of the Moiseevsky athletes got the whole city sick? who directed them? and to whom did he obey? that when Timokh was closed Furgal like a scalded gallop and defended him wherever he could in the rank of deputy? ? so it's easy to check without me. what to look for I already wrote to you. you can start with this for example http://trud-ost.ru/?p=70064. it's 11 years old. there are no hints of Furgal's arrest anywhere near.
              1. Roman123567
                Roman123567 22 July 2020 12: 13 New
                +5
                I have lived all my life in Khabarovsk. and is perfectly familiar with what this person is.

                I have lived all my life in Russia, and I am perfectly familiar with what that (second) person is.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 22 July 2020 12: 22 New
                  -8
                  I'm not going to participate in your big top with Putin's accusations. you need bulk resources.
                  1. Roman123567
                    Roman123567 22 July 2020 13: 30 New
                    +5
                    I agree .. the big top with Furgal is much more interesting .. and the scenery is better, and the directors are more eminent ..
                    1. Snail N9
                      Snail N9 22 July 2020 15: 24 New
                      +6
                      The big top with Furgal is much more interesting .. and the scenery is better, and the directors are more eminent ..

                      "Exactly, tent" ....
              2. parusnik
                parusnik 22 July 2020 20: 17 New
                0
                The van is a wild steed, without a roof? ... And the roof doesn't sit? Is it fair?
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 22 July 2020 20: 30 New
                  +1
                  Well, you ask him why he made the leader of the organized crime group his assistant and bodyguard. for some reason, this gang, which really twisted everything from murders to blackmail and other 300 snouts, received at least an official roof from him. and for some reason Timokha just went out last year, quite unexpectedly sat down on the forest. and so that without his participation, transactions on it are now impossible? all this was in the press in large quantities over those years. and those who protect him should also be closed. there are no questions even.
        2. Hagen
          Hagen 22 July 2020 12: 13 New
          -5
          Quote: Roman123567
          So is Putin a thief and a murderer ..

          Are you out of your mind, excuse me? Now you have written to yourself on a normal criminal case !!! A very specific person was accused of committing a serious crime, and in a public discussion.
          Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 128.1. Slander
          (introduced by the Federal Law from 28.07.2012 N 141-FZ)
          .
          5. Slander, combined with the accusation of a person in committing a grave or especially grave crime -
          is punishable by a fine of up to five million rubles, or in the amount of the wage or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to three years, or compulsory labor for up to four hundred and eighty hours.
          Roman, think what you write, take care of your loved ones ... laughing
          1. Roman123567
            Roman123567 22 July 2020 12: 30 New
            +7
            Quite a specific person

            What kind of person ?? Yesterday in the park I saw one fool with that last name ..
            And did you think I was about our hot beloved President ??)
          2. flicker
            flicker 22 July 2020 13: 55 New
            -4
            Are you out of your mind, excuse me? Now you have written to yourself on a normal criminal case !!!

            So, it seems, this is an Israeli citizen who cannot pass by Russia in any way that he cannot kick it.
            1. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 22 July 2020 14: 13 New
              -10
              From Israel Roma yes
            2. St Petrov
              St Petrov 22 July 2020 16: 23 New
              -6
              so is this waffle really from Israel? and I kept thinking what accent this substance has
              1. Tank jacket
                Tank jacket 22 July 2020 21: 54 New
                +1
                From Izgail ... wassat HGoma ...
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        3. flicker
          flicker 22 July 2020 13: 58 New
          -2
          And they also like to talk about Hodor ... about stolen goods ...
          It's time for you to go to the synagogue, freshen up laughing
      3. Zorro21
        Zorro21 22 July 2020 11: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: carstorm 11
        thief and murderer. and the article is not Roman. all this has been walking for a couple of weeks or so almost literally on Yandex)

        You never know in Russia thieves and murderers. Most of them have been in London for a long time, but many still walk, confident of their impunity. The same Khodorkovsky, though he served time for fraud and tax evasion, can still find evidence of his involvement in the murders. And this is clearly not the case when "no thief is caught". Those. it can be concluded that the investigation was conducted objectively.
        But there has never been such a noise in the media with the withdrawal of people to the demonstrations during a single arrest of a bandit. In this case, the author is right in arguing that the reason is money. But not those stupid schemes that tax people know about and they are presented to readers as a kind of "revelation from above." In this case, we are talking about bloody money. AND Furgal's accomplices took people to the streets for one simple reason - because of quarantine, the borders were closed and it was impossible to escape with money abroad. All that remains is to try to put pressure on the authorities and negotiate so as not to follow their criminal authority on the bunk with the "medic".
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 22 July 2020 11: 07 New
          -3
          everything is more banal) you need to translate the topic from murders anywhere. by any means . that people would hear this more often than the fact that he is a murderer.
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 22 July 2020 11: 38 New
            12
            Interestingly, articles on the topic of taking Furgal's business away are being burned on an Internet, but for some reason there are no articles on the subject of Furgal's crimes, namely about those murdered whom he killed ... Well, murderer, so it turns out that the prosecutor's office covered him for so many years? Is this normal in your opinion? And the question arises why the roofers are not behind bars yet?
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 22 July 2020 11: 43 New
              -4
              this is also a question and I won't even argue. I would like very much progress at this stage. As for the articles of whom he killed ... there were a lot of them and they appeared much earlier than all this started. I advise you to start with his personal bodyguard Timofeev (Timokhi and the sports club Moses, which he headed), I actually suggested that many should study this.
              1. parusnik
                parusnik 22 July 2020 20: 21 New
                +4
                Every gang has a roof .. This is once again I repeat to you ... The roof does not sit ... The roof, Furgala, passed ..
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 22 July 2020 20: 42 New
                  0
                  But what difference does it make to me who handed it over?) you will never understand that I do not care at all how it happened. It is important for me that this person will sit for what he did. but if they go further then I personally only for.
      4. businessv
        businessv 23 July 2020 21: 18 New
        0
        Quote: carstorm 11
        want to repeat?) he is a thief and a murderer.

        So what? For what purpose are you saying this? Mantra? Or have you proved what you are repeating so persistently?))) Let this infa walk anywhere and as much as you like, how can this affect someone's opinion? hi
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 22 July 2020 10: 29 New
    +2
    The author of the article makes a very bold statement !!! laughing

    Of course, I do not respect a person who promised, but did not fulfill his promises to me - but soooo, insolently accuse VVP of "covering up" ... bully

    I'd rather join the zaputintsy, who will smash the Author into molecules, than believe that Putin is "covering up" the deal to buy shares hi
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 22 July 2020 10: 55 New
      +8
      What is Putin's grade in judo? Or how are they ranked there?
      There was an old anecdote:

      - What is naivety?
      - Naivety is when a mother considers her eighteen-year-old daughter to be safe.

      - What is over-naivety?
      - This is when an eighteen-year-old daughter considers her mother to be safe.

      That's all. request
      1. Roman123567
        Roman123567 22 July 2020 11: 03 New
        +4
        That's all.

        In the situation above, this is not even all .. there is another bottom of naivety broken ..))
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 22 July 2020 12: 26 New
        15
        Quote: Sea Cat
        What is Putin's grade in judo? Or how are they ranked there?

        He has "ju" before and "ju" after, the usual supernumerary major in charge of the Soviet-German dryuchba club, they were given underground work under dismissal.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 22 July 2020 12: 32 New
          11
          Yes, I heard about the head club before. Not a bad career for a colleague Comrade Experienced. laughing
    2. Roman123567
      Roman123567 22 July 2020 10: 58 New
      10
      than I will believe that Putin "protects" the deal to buy shares

      No, no .. he can't do that ..
      Everyone knows that princesses don't farts ..))
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 July 2020 11: 35 New
      +5
      Quote: Crown without virus
      I'd rather join the zaputintsy, who will smash the Author into molecules, than believe that Putin is "covering up" the deal to buy shares

      I can’t be neither one nor the other, but simply neutral. But when I hear or see some surnames, which are like "Parable in the town", vague doubts visit me.

    4. parusnik
      parusnik 22 July 2020 11: 41 New
      10
      than I will believe that Putin "protects" the deal to buy shares
      ... But I will believe ... I remember how in the 90s he worked with Sobchak or worked together, whatever you like, in Leningrad-Petersburg ...
  • Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 22 July 2020 10: 35 New
    +8
    Another thing is more curious. Did the patient have a gangster past? The reason for the collision is already clear: power or money, but what was the reason?
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 22 July 2020 10: 47 New
      11
      Did the patient have a gangster past?
      ... And who doesn't have it? Our oligarchs and poorer all earned by honest labor? I bought an apple for 2 rubles, sold it for six, bought another apple for six rubles, so I made capital ... All of them are involved in some kind of crime, to some extent ...
      1. Sancho_SP
        Sancho_SP 23 July 2020 06: 19 New
        -2
        And who doesn't have it? Our oligarchs and poorer all earned by honest labor?

        And that's why a single Furgal should be forgiven for a couple of contract killings (of course, if there were any)?
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 July 2020 11: 48 New
      +6
      Quote: Sancho_SP
      Another thing is more curious. Did the patient have a gangster past?

      Interesting cases are happening in the world, 6 years in the Dutch court did not know why the sky was not closed over Ukraine, where the dispatcher was, and 6 years later they found a witness, 6 years ago Medvedev began to dig something “In general, when they started to dig this sphere, then, of course, the sensations were very heavy, "admitted the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev.

      For 6 years no one knew that Furgal had a criminal past, but now they have unearthed it. 2014 was an interesting year.
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 22 July 2020 12: 18 New
        -6
        Quote: tihonmarine
        For 6 years no one knew that Furgal had a criminal past, but now they have unearthed it. 2014 was an interesting year.

        You can know a lot, but not all of what you know can be proven in court. Knowing and proving are two big differences. It is unnecessary for lawyers to explain, "hot guys" sometimes have to.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 22 July 2020 12: 31 New
          +5
          Quote: Hagen
          You can know a lot, but not all of what you know can be proven in court.

          Sorry to express myself incorrectly. This is what you would advise the Boeing judges from the Netherlands.
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 22 July 2020 18: 21 New
            -2
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Sorry to express myself incorrectly. This is what you would advise the Boeing judges from the Netherlands.

            Sorry. Furgala will be judged by our court? Our. The question of what they knew about Furgala relates to our law enforcement officers? To ours. Why bring in some kind of the Netherlands? Do you want to improve their law enforcement practice? How does this relate to the topic under discussion? I don’t give advice for our court either. I explain for those who are not very involved in the law enforcement system that in our court it is simply not enough to know. Our judgment does not work in faith (in the knowledge of mine, yours, of other people). Proof is needed there. It's simple. This is how the judicial investigation works. It is a fact. Do you disagree?
        2. yehat2
          yehat2 22 July 2020 17: 15 New
          +2
          I would like to clarify - whether or not Furgal had a criminal past - the court will decide
          In the meantime, this is only an accusation, not the past.
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 27 July 2020 08: 04 New
            -1
            Quote: yehat2
            so far this is only an accusation, not the past.

            Formally, the accusation has a well-documented basis. The court, choosing a preventive measure, evaluates these grounds. Otherwise, you are right, the court will decide whether Furgal is guilty or not.
      2. Sancho_SP
        Sancho_SP 23 July 2020 06: 22 New
        -1
        Again: CAUSE - understandable. I wonder if it's true occasion? If the conditional Furgal really killed someone - can this murder be forgiven because Rothenberg is no better?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 July 2020 09: 08 New
          0
          Quote: Sancho_SP
          can this murder be forgiven because Rothenberg is no better?

          Better to judge them together for everything they did.
          1. Sancho_SP
            Sancho_SP 23 July 2020 12: 48 New
            0
            Do you want to try to judge? Why call for downright dangerous things from a cozy warm couch?

            It is relatively safe for the citizens to (for now) stand up for Furgal. My question is about the formal motives of these citizens: they claim that Magnus did not betray ^ W ^ W ^ W Furgal did not kill anyone, or that even if he did, it was a long time ago and not true and generally out of Rotenberg ...?
    3. BAI
      BAI 22 July 2020 12: 56 New
      10
      Everyone who snatched at privatization has a gangster past. It was impossible otherwise. Here is a certain Abramovich. For Sibneft, a whole train of murders stretches when he owned it. But there are no complaints about him.
      1. Roman123567
        Roman123567 22 July 2020 13: 36 New
        +2
        someone Abramovich. For Sibneft, a whole train of murders stretches when he owned it. But there are no complaints about him.

        Well, who he shared with - it's also no secret ...
        And who covered him (in contrast to Berezovsky) is also clear ..
        And there are such trails to the Kremlin .. uuuu ..
        And when I write that HE is the killer .. however ..
        As if those corpses were themselves ..))
  • parusnik
    parusnik 22 July 2020 10: 42 New
    +9
    Oh, how simple. As the late Zadornov said, all because of the attendants. Furgal in a recent interview with KP said: `` Everyone betrayed me. '' The puzzles came together.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 July 2020 12: 37 New
      +4
      Quote: parusnik
      Furgal in a recent interview with KP said: Everyone betrayed me.

      He already knew the outcome. And it is not in vain that Amurstal shares are taken away from his wife in favor of his full name.
      But which of the oligarchs does not have the same "shkilets" in the closet as Furgal. But their time has not come yet.
  • Million
    Million 22 July 2020 10: 42 New
    +3
    All because of the attendants (s)
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 22 July 2020 10: 53 New
    +5
    Now everything is clear. Putin really has nothing to do with it. So let's write it down - nothing to do with it.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 22 July 2020 10: 58 New
    +5
    Quote: Sea Cat
    What is Putin's grade in judo? Or how are they ranked there?
    There was an old anecdote:

    - What is naivety?
    - Naivety is when a mother considers her eighteen-year-old daughter to be safe.

    - What is over-naivety?
    - This is when an eighteen-year-old daughter considers her mother to be safe.

    That's all. request


    Do you know ... To live in a country where the President officially "protects" the business of his friends is ... we are not a banana republic, are we? repeat Or already banana ?! bully

    So ... I - personally me - feel comfortable - when I think that Furgal is "pressed" for political reasons laughing
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 22 July 2020 11: 04 New
      +6
      I - personally me - feel comfortable - when I think

      Not .. well, such an argument is at least something ..))
      You just grew up in my eyes !!

      PS .. Although you still have to live in the same country .. where the president ...
    2. Catfish
      Catfish 22 July 2020 11: 09 New
      13
      As Woland told the Master there: If you feel comfortable thinking that I do not exist, then think so for your health.
      There is a bird called an ostrich. smile
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 July 2020 12: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Crown without virus
      I - personally me - feel comfortable - when I think that Furgal is "pressed" for political reasons

      But you can bring anyone under such a press.
  • Vlad Malkin
    Vlad Malkin 22 July 2020 11: 01 New
    -1
    Yes, such things are looming ...
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 22 July 2020 11: 03 New
    -10
    Quote: Roman123567
    than I will believe that Putin "protects" the deal to buy shares

    No, no .. he can't do that ..
    Everyone knows that princesses don't farts ..))


    I translate from the "high calm" of the Russian language to the "kid's yard" - to make it clearer for you hi

    All the same, Russia is now in the top 5 most powerful countries in the world !!! drinks And the assumption !!! that the President can "protect" the business of his friends - soooo, insolently - I, shall we say, jar a little)))

    Not so poor Putin to be soooo substituted;)
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 22 July 2020 11: 13 New
      +4
      Russia - is now in the top 5 most powerful countries in the world

      Well, what does it give ??
      The USSR was even in the TOP-2 in terms of power.
      The standard of living must be measured !! And then they received a vigorous bimba from Stalin - that's all the power ...

      Putin is not so poor
      And why is he not so poor ??) He does not even know his salary .. he never took off .. otkel wealth ??
      to be soooo substituted;)

      To slap Nemtsov in front of the Kremlin means you can .. and here it is straight - substitute ..))
      This situation, after all, is also not only a squeeze .. but also as an indicative case for other governors .. how not to behave .. And there is absolutely no threat .. There were situations and more scrupulous ..
      1. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 22 July 2020 14: 48 New
        +1
        Well, how can I not insert a libelage about Putin personally killed by Nemtsov, yeah ...
        And the terrible opponent Borka, like a pheasant lured in a nature reserve, was lured "to the path" not far from the windows of the Kremlin office, so that VV would not sweat after him running with a gun, for sure! laughing laughing laughing

        You can hear this and other news on the forward channel "Echo of Matzah" and their numbered special correspondent! hi (Here, the same Vasya17 will regularly pay off "with all the truth") drinks
  • Baloo
    Baloo 22 July 2020 11: 09 New
    +1
    Everything is clear with stocks. It is not clear about contract killings. And so, everything is as always in Russia and in the world, predatory uncles urgently needed the property of other uncles.
  • flicker
    flicker 22 July 2020 11: 10 New
    -5
    Well yes. It is necessary to whitewash Furgala somehow, and for the sake of this what you just can't imagine.
    The people will protest.

    But what is popular opinion,

    The overwhelming majority of the people did not attend the so-called rally.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 22 July 2020 11: 24 New
    +6
    But what is popular opinion when 2,5 billion rubles are at stake (50% of Amurstal's authorized value of 5 billion)? Who cares about this popular opinion when the Rotenbergs will build another bridge?
    The names are still the same, and for everyone else, Furgal's indicative flogging. What the last name wanted, then you need to perform, but no, in handcuffs and in "Silence".
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 22 July 2020 11: 30 New
    -3
    Quote: Roman123567
    I - personally me - feel comfortable - when I think

    Not .. well, such an argument is at least something ..))
    You just grew up in my eyes !!

    PS .. Although you still have to live in the same country .. where the president ...

    And you know, in his snotty childhood, in the USSR, the Indian film "Never Say Never" was shown in cinemas ... To be honest, what he was talking about - I don't remember - but he was watching, because he was walking under the 16+ label = but to me it was clearly less then 16 repeat But it was an indicator of "coolness" then among teenagers - watch films 16+ good

    So vooot ... I remembered the name of the film, and life has shown repeatedly that the name of the film is vital !!! drinks

    Applied to the article ... and to the comments on the article ... lol

    Now, if only YESTERDAY, someone would have told me that I am !!! - an ardent OPPOSITE will vehemently defend the honor and dignity of Putin before the Zaputinites - I would not even laugh - for me it was still wild yesterday laughing laughing laughing
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 22 July 2020 12: 51 New
      +6
      Quote: Crown without virus
      And you know, in his snotty childhood, in the USSR, the Indian film "Never Say Never" was shown in cinemas ... To be honest, what he was talking about - I don't remember - but he was watching, because he was walking under the 16+ label = but to me it was clearly less then 16

      I know celery, which movie you are talking about:
      Never say never" (1983)
      Using an incomprehensible set of weapons, Agent 007 personally wipes out the army of Her Majesty's enemies. But when the adorable prisoner stabs 007 in the ribs, the super spy's boss decides it's time for his best agent to hone his deadly prowess. And so James Bond goes to a health resort, and the movie "Never say never" is ready to amaze your imagination with tricks again.

      Indian Film (2006) Never Say Goodbye (12+)
      Quote: Crown without virus
      So how much ...

      They gave him a year, he served 12 months and was released ahead of schedule ...
      There is a saying:
      DO NOT FORMIT FROM SUMA YES FROM PRISON
      This must be remembered. And to say: “Never!” Is not averse.
  • Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 22 July 2020 11: 36 New
    -1
    A ton of text and more than one link, or does the author refer only to his imagination / manual? Taking for the ultimate truth "kompromat.grupp" (pro-Western liberal yellow rag) are you serious?
  • Clueless
    Clueless 22 July 2020 11: 43 New
    +6
    Furgal was just out of luck. The whole puzzle was not very successful for him - and the rating is Higher than that of Putin, and money issues, the Kremlin's resentment that he did not withdraw from the second stage of the elections, etc.

    It is here that they dug up the compromising evidence that the special services keep on any official from the mayor and above.
    1. flicker
      flicker 22 July 2020 14: 20 New
      -5
      Furgal was just out of luck.
      He was already so lucky. But luck also comes to an end, luck is over - on the bunk, for permanent residence. laughing
      ---
      The whole puzzle was not very successful for him
      One cannot but agree with this. But again, it is my own fault.
      Was an element of one system, then (coveted for profit) became an element of another (competing) system.
      The first threw him out, and the second he was needed ONLY as an ELEMENT OF THE FIRST SYSTEM.
      As a result, I lost everything.
      Both systems will continue to function. And Furgal?
      "The sheriff's Indians don't care about the problem." belay
      ---
      Furgal is no longer interesting to anyone, the main thing is that he does not give up his accomplices wassat
      ---
      Furgal on a bunk, for permanent residence. bully
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 22 July 2020 11: 43 New
    -2
    Quote: Roman123567
    Russia - is now in the top 5 most powerful countries in the world

    Well, what does it give ??
    The USSR was even in the TOP-2 in terms of power.
    The standard of living must be measured !! And then they received a vigorous bimba from Stalin - that's all the power ...

    Putin is not so poor
    And why is he not so poor ??) He does not even know his salary .. he never took off .. otkel wealth ??
    to be soooo substituted;)

    To slap Nemtsov in front of the Kremlin means you can .. and here it is straight - substitute ..))
    This situation, after all, is also not only a squeeze .. but also as an indicative case for other governors .. how not to behave .. And there is absolutely no threat .. There were situations and more scrupulous ..

    Then once again "on the fingers" and "in a kid's way" wassat
    I am an ardent OPPOSITE !!! hi

    But in this particular article and in these specific comments to the article of Zaputintsev, the idea is that Russia is so much a "banana republic" that the President is OFFICIAL !!! you can protect your friends' business no

    I personally think that we are NOT !!! "banana republic" - no matter how I feel about Putin
  • Login_Off
    Login_Off 22 July 2020 11: 43 New
    +2
    I will give one more tip to the sambists.
    Khabarovsk has been unable to pass the "Khabarovsk Palace of Martial Arts" Sambo for more than a year.
    So the sambist was offended)
  • Captain45
    Captain45 22 July 2020 11: 46 New
    +4
    Something a little late Roman raised the topic of metal for the bridge in connection with Furgal. By the end of the first day of the arrest, they were already pumping this version on the "Conte". Here, I see, they tried everything in the discussions, but the issue of the murders imputed to Furgalu is carefully avoided. So what about the corpses of competitors or is it fiction?
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 22 July 2020 11: 46 New
    +3
    Quote: parusnik
    than I will believe that Putin "protects" the deal to buy shares
    ... But I will believe ... I remember how in the 90s he worked with Sobchak or worked together, whatever you like, in Leningrad-Petersburg ...

    Ry))) The President for Life of the country - and is engaged in "petty bullying" ?! tongue
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 22 July 2020 20: 29 New
      -1
      Oh, why not? laughing
  • Dedok
    Dedok 22 July 2020 11: 56 New
    +2
    Quote: Igoresha
    it is difficult to wonder why Batko's comrades do not rush into the friendly embrace of the Kremlin. All will be squeezed out and put in jail. In Ukraine, there was such a kleptomaniac Yanukovych, he dragged and took away even from his colleagues in the Party of Regions.

    Remember how "daddy" packed the owner of "Uralkali"? remember why? remember who went - "rescued" this "owner"?
  • Alsur
    Alsur 22 July 2020 12: 11 New
    0
    The author is harnessed for a long time, even in this section there were already two articles on the topic:
    Whom Furgal scared:
    arrest of the Khabarovsk governor and possible political overtones

    https://topwar.ru/173084-kogo-napugal-furgal-v-areste-habarovskogo-gubernatora-mozhet-byt-politicheskaja-podopleka.html

    Protests in Khabarovsk. What was it?

    https://topwar.ru/173129-protesty-v-habarovske-chto-jeto-bylo.html

    And the main idea of ​​the article has been sucked up repeatedly on the Internet, for example:

    Geopolitical misinformation and the trial of Furgal

    http://new.topru.org/geopoliticheskaya-deza-i-sud-nad-furgalom/

    Или:
    The real reason for the arrest of Sergei Furgal is big money

    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/rublevarbitr/istinnaia-prichina-aresta-sergeia-furgala-bolshie-dengi-5f0f28965cda481d79d38c56

    Или:
    This is what Furgal was taken for

    https://www.yaplakal.com/forum7/topic2142737.html

    Или:
    Why Furgal was imprisoned

    https://pikabu.ru/story/za_chto_posadili_furgala_7584439

    To heap:
    Interview with Larisa Zorya - the widow of a businessman whose murder Sergei Furgal is accused of

    https://pikabu.ru/story/intervyu_s_larisoy_zorya__vdovoy_biznesmena_v_ubiystve_kotorogo_obvinyayut_sergeya_furgala_7597846
  • dimasster
    dimasster 22 July 2020 12: 12 New
    0
    The author should study the issue before sitting down to the article. First of all, Amurstal is not a plant. And it produces nothing except fittings. Reinforcement, of course, is needed in the construction of bridges, but somehow I haven’t heard that it was used to make bridge spans. Nor do they make the ships and planes mentioned in the article by the author. And, as for the sale of the plant to the Chinese, God forbid. Better not be at all. The Chinese will build capacities here and it will be possible to put a cross on Komsomolsk-on-Amur. The city, surrounded by hills, will simply suffocate from the emissions and people will flee from here with a vengeance. The Chinese realized that ecology is good and they take dirty industries to other countries. Let the Russians die, they are not sorry.
    1. ancient
      ancient 22 July 2020 12: 54 New
      0
      [quote = dimasster] And produces nothing but armature. Armature [/ quote
      At least I would have read "Vika" for a start ... how to write all kinds of ... "nonsense" ... or do not already know how ... "to execute" tongue
      1. dimasster
        dimasster 22 July 2020 14: 18 New
        0
        Why should I read it? I am aware that the company where I work produces.
    2. Dmitry V.
      Dmitry V. 22 July 2020 12: 54 New
      +4
      Quote: dimasster
      And it produces nothing except fittings. Reinforcement, of course, is needed in the construction of bridges, but somehow I haven’t heard that it was used to make bridge spans.


      Well, not only fittings, for example:
      Continuously cast square billet for the manufacture of long products https://www.amurstal.com/buyers/sortament-produktsii.html

      And to buy, install and launch a rolling mill for a project - from half a year to a year.
      This is many times more profitable than transporting rolled steel for 3000-4000 km, logistics will kill the entire profitability of the project.
      And here almost finished production - to re-equip and produce on site, at times cheaper.
    3. Dmitry V.
      Dmitry V. 22 July 2020 13: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: dimasster
      And it produces nothing except fittings. Reinforcement, of course, is needed in the construction of bridges, but somehow I haven’t heard that it was used to make bridge spans.


      It depends on which version of the bridge spans is included in the project - from this already purchase rolling mills for the nomenclature of power elements.
      Maybe it makes sense to carry the main beams - their volume is not great, as well as numerous reinforcing elements - this is not a difficult rental.

      But the reinforcement, for the installation of bridge supports, will require a very large volume - larger than the bridge spans themselves.
    4. depressant
      depressant 22 July 2020 13: 26 New
      +4
      Good comment, colleague! ))
      From this point of view, the problem has not yet been considered.
      1. swan49
        swan49 22 July 2020 21: 37 New
        +2
        This problem has already been considered somewhere (I don't remember where, there is too much information on Khabarovsk). According to a rough estimate, this is a month of the plant's operation. And in the cost of bridge crossings, it turns out, up to 2/3, this is the cost of the railway part. In the European part, from Murmansk to Crimea, practically all metal structures of bridge crossings were built by one plant - the Borisov Plant of Bridge Metal Structures in the Belgorod Region. The sections are assembled and taken to the construction site of the crossing - Kola Bay, Moscow, St. Petersburg, Crimea, Altai, etc. And in the current economic situation, I personally would have believed more in the story of the Chinese.
  • ioan-e
    ioan-e 22 July 2020 12: 21 New
    -6
    And if complicity or organization of the murders is proven, will the author publicly eat his computer or what he wrote it on? And at the same time the hands with which the text was typed? Recently, the scribblers have become insolent, the investigation is still incomplete, but everything is already clear to them! It's time to introduce criminal liability for articles - you lied or got caught on request, please go to the north of the Krasnoyarsk Territory with a saw in your hands for a couple of years for the good of your homeland to work for free! You look and the quality of journalism will grow, and the whole rag-tag will be washed away, otherwise VO is already turning into some kind of Yandex Zen!
    1. BAI
      BAI 22 July 2020 13: 05 New
      +2
      Now check your mail, catch a warning for insulting the author. It won't rust there.
      1. ioan-e
        ioan-e 22 July 2020 13: 54 New
        -2
        Quote: BAI
        Now check your mail, catch a warning for insulting the author. It won't rust there.

        Yes, yesterday it flew in for another article, do not care, too many orders on the site began to appear! From analytical articles and a club of interests, VO is starting to slide towards the yellow press in the field of politics. A little more and they will begin to write about the divorce of Asmus and Kharlamov! Shame!
    2. _Sergei_
      _Sergei_ 24 July 2020 04: 41 New
      0
      Can not. Suppressed laughing
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 22 July 2020 12: 24 New
    +2
    I see that I am now amicably minus both those who are for Putin and those who are against Putin bully

    Therefore, I will clarify drinks

    1. I am an ardent OPPOSITOR hi
    2. But I am FOR !!! The law, and he, as they say, "The law is harsh - but it is the Law" (c)
    3. In my personal opinion, if in this particular case, Putin would protect his friends ...
    He's a smart man - I hope no one will argue with that? smile
    It’s easier for the President to remove Furgal by law because of the loss of trust ... And the next day, friends would take what they wanted - and, I suspect, they would have been paid extra to take these shares bully
    However ... we see a situation where everything goes at random ... repeat So, my personal opinion is that this situation is not about money hi
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 22 July 2020 12: 37 New
      +1
      Furgal also has money. And he fights back to the best of his ability. So it simply cannot be done smoothly.
    2. ancient
      ancient 22 July 2020 13: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Crown without virus
      Therefore, I will clarify

      Well, try .... "we'll see": wassat
      I immediately answer the points ... briefly, in the military ... so as not to .. "deliver" laughing
      1. Nonsense.
      2. Twice nonsense ... since what you are referring to is not the law ... but the drawbar and where it will be turned (who needs it and who can), then .. that and .. will get " wassat
      3. Remove your "if" prefix and get ...... "oil painting" wassat (n \ -p-k Gotsman, from the film "Liquidation".
      - never an athlete who was either beaten on the head in the ring, or "carried" with his head on the carpet a priori can not be .......... but. cunning, resourceful, etc. yes it please wink ...but not ......... wink
      It’s not easier ... because you won’t be able to rent for nothing ..... although the gods can do anything, but .. all the same, you need at least some justification at least for bills, dachas, cars, apartments, etc.) wassat
      The only thing I agree with is that, as you put it - "So, my personal opinion is that this situation is not in money hi:"
    3. ancient
      ancient 22 July 2020 16: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: Crown without virus
      But I am FOR !!! The Law, and he, as they say, "The Law is harsh - but it is the Law"

      Well, since you are FOR ..Law ... then here's to you .. "fresh" from ... compliance with .. "Law" wassat
      And this is happening everywhere and everywhere !!!!!!
      https://bloknot.ru/obshhestvo/sbivshij-nasmert-devushku-v-permi-podrostok-mazhor-otdelalsya-uslovny-m-srokom-692058.html
      And here you are trying to ... "disagree" with .. "The red thread of the article" wassat
    4. _Sergei_
      _Sergei_ 24 July 2020 04: 42 New
      0
      Oddly enough, today I have only advantages
  • Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 22 July 2020 12: 30 New
    +3
    Yes - I also saw this version.
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2422403634724552&id=100008648178257
    Sounds believable.
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 22 July 2020 23: 06 New
      -4
      very much even, only about the murders to clarify which allegedly sewn Mistryukov and now their own Furgala; really sewn or an Internet notion?
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 22 July 2020 12: 35 New
    +3
    I read it with interest. Wow, wherever you throw - either a rat's face or a rat's tail can be seen everywhere ...
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 22 July 2020 12: 36 New
    +1
    Well. First LOGICAL version.
  • Captain45
    Captain45 22 July 2020 12: 59 New
    +1
    Well, as the ancients said: "Let the other side be heard as well." I didn’t want to get involved in this topic with Furgal because, as they say, there are two lawyers, three opinions, but I see that this topic is being considered somehow one-sidedly on VO, so my colleagues have a different point of view on what is happening: https://cont.ws/@Cherchill/1735864because pluralism, as the reformer-perestroika said, is pluralism in Africa too. Because another opinion of the same individual: "There are two opinions - mine and wrong", unfortunately prevails in the consideration of this topic.
    1. brat07
      brat07 23 July 2020 21: 07 New
      +2
      The slogan of the Protestants in Khabarovsk is "I / we are Furgal"!
      Did something remind me of this?
      Ah ... yes, I remembered - "I am Sharley-ebdo"!
      What is it for? It evokes a "certain" pattern.
      Don't you find?
  • Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 22 July 2020 13: 06 New
    +3
    The bad news is that doctors do not register patients - so as not to spoil the statistics.
    The eldest son and his family were ill - they refused to take smears for Covid-19.
    Get sick at home ...
    What they hurt is not clear.
    Putin said - the epidemic is in decline, then in decline ...

    In fact, it is not clear, given such a "flexible" registration of cases and the absence of tests, how the epidemic is actually developing.
    1. Captain45
      Captain45 22 July 2020 13: 40 New
      -1
      Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
      The bad news is that doctors do not register patients - so as not to spoil the statistics.
      The eldest son and his family were ill - they refused to take smears for Covid-19.
      Get sick at home ...
      What they hurt is not clear.
      Putin said - the epidemic is in decline, then in decline ...

      Well, these are already questions for the local regional Ministry of Health. My uncle and his wife managed to catch it somewhere, upon receipt of the test results immediately to the hospital and in the regional headquarters in the summary there is a note - "2 people were identified and hospitalized in N. city." muddies.
  • tatarin1972
    tatarin1972 22 July 2020 13: 36 New
    0
    Very similar to the truth in the current reality.
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  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 22 July 2020 13: 56 New
    +2
    Finally! Finally, it came to Roman that I, according to my friend from Khabarovsk, have been repeating for a week, getting a bunch of dislikes. The novel, of course, is in its repertoire: it depicts dashingly, colorfully and not without errors. But on the whole, he correctly states the MAIN reason, which became the spark that ignited the protests of the splashed out dissatisfaction of the Far East with the Center.

    Interestingly, Romanov adherents will still bombard me with minuses now? Or will the zaputintsy turn on? I will disappoint everyone: guys, I, by and large, do not care about your "enlightened" opinions. In this I completely agree with Socrates and Plato! laughing laughing laughing
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 22 July 2020 14: 18 New
    +3
    Quote: ancient
    Quote: Crown without virus
    Therefore, I will clarify

    Well, try .... "we'll see": wassat
    I immediately answer the points ... briefly, in the military ... so as not to .. "deliver" laughing
    1. Nonsense.
    2. Twice nonsense ... since what you are referring to is not the law ... but the drawbar and where it will be turned (who needs it and who can), then .. that and .. will get " wassat
    3. Remove your "if" prefix and get ...... "oil painting" wassat (n \ -p-k Gotsman, from the film "Liquidation".
    - never an athlete who was either beaten on the head in the ring, or "carried" with his head on the carpet a priori can not be .......... but. cunning, resourceful, etc. yes it please wink ...but not ......... wink
    It’s not easier ... because you won’t be able to rent for nothing ..... although the gods can do anything, but .. all the same, you need at least some justification at least for bills, dachas, cars, apartments, etc.) wassat
    The only thing I agree with is that, as you put it - "So, my personal opinion is that this situation is not in money hi:"

    1. To be convinced of my first point - read all my posts on VO and "poke my face on the table", where "drowned for Putin" am laughing lol With the exception of posts to this article, where I protect Putin from the Zaputins bully
    2. To be convinced of my second point - read all my posts on VO and "poke my face on the table", where I (if possible and on the topic of comments) would not poke the Zaputins with "face on the table" - if it was about the Law hi
    3. I myself may have a bunch of complaints about Putin - but that's what he is a dull person - call hi I do not believe!!! )))
    1. ancient
      ancient 22 July 2020 16: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Crown without virus
      ... To make sure of my first point

      1. Actually, I got used to everything from the first "run" ... "to do" wink ... I do not need additional clarifications and explanations. And yes ... you can "drown" for anyone ... this is your right. (This is the only thing that you have, or rather we have milestones left - choose where to go - to ......., on. ......., or in.........).
      2. I will repeat myself ... or rather, I will repeat V. Vysotsky's phrase (after all, the anniversary is wink )...."A thief should sit in jail" wassat .... what about us ????? lol
      3. And who told you and where, what ... "he is not a distant person" belay ? If you are "trying" this .. "pin me" ... then "facts in the studio ...." wassat bully repeat (you seem to be like everywhere on .. "Law" .. refer to). laughing .
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 22 July 2020 14: 23 New
    0
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Quote: Crown without virus
    And you know, in his snotty childhood, in the USSR, the Indian film "Never Say Never" was shown in cinemas ... To be honest, what he was talking about - I don't remember - but he was watching, because he was walking under the 16+ label = but to me it was clearly less then 16

    I know celery, which movie you are talking about:
    Never say never" (1983)
    Using an incomprehensible set of weapons, Agent 007 personally wipes out the army of Her Majesty's enemies. But when the adorable prisoner stabs 007 in the ribs, the super spy's boss decides it's time for his best agent to hone his deadly prowess. And so James Bond goes to a health resort, and the movie "Never say never" is ready to amaze your imagination with tricks again.

    Indian Film (2006) Never Say Goodbye (12+)
    Quote: Crown without virus
    So how much ...

    They gave him a year, he served 12 months and was released ahead of schedule ...
    There is a saying:
    DO NOT FORMIT FROM SUMA YES FROM PRISON
    This must be remembered. And to say: “Never!” Is not averse.

    I Think So - 1983 movie hi In 2006, I already plowed like daddy carlo)))
  • Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 22 July 2020 15: 12 New
    +3
    Dear Roman, in the article you gave a definition of prejudice, but the conclusions you made are frankly strange:

    Prejudice - the obligation for all courts considering a case to accept, without checking the evidence, facts previously established by a court decision that entered into legal force in another case, in which the same persons participate.

    And from here comes a very wide field for variations. Judge for yourself:

    Mistryukov concludes an extra trial, stipulates Furgal.

    Since the pre-trial agreement presupposes a special procedure, the court does not study the facts, but only certain circumstances. For example, the appearance of the defendant: was the defendant brought to justice earlier, the severity of the crime, etc.

    The court then pronounces a verdict. Not checking the testimony against Furgal, precisely because the testimony given against Furgal Mistryukov is a prejudice against Furgal.

    Gruzdev ... sorry, Furgal, will sit.

    Furgal is neither a party to Mistryukov's trial nor a person participating in this case. Thus, there can be no question of any prejudice against Furgal.

    However, this is an exclusively legal theory. Our court, as you know, is humane, fair, whatever, but with legality it often has difficulties ...
  • King3214
    King3214 22 July 2020 16: 10 New
    -2
    Crystal honest billionaire S. Furgal. Favorite of the poor people of the Far East!
    The author, why do you so cynically consider readers to be rams?
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 22 July 2020 17: 09 New
    0
    Quote: ancient
    Quote: Crown without virus
    But I am FOR !!! The Law, and he, as they say, "The Law is harsh - but it is the Law"

    Well, since you are FOR ..Law ... then here's to you .. "fresh" from ... compliance with .. "Law" wassat
    And this is happening everywhere and everywhere !!!!!!
    https://bloknot.ru/obshhestvo/sbivshij-nasmert-devushku-v-permi-podrostok-mazhor-otdelalsya-uslovny-m-srokom-692058.html
    And here you are trying to ... "disagree" with .. "The red thread of the article" wassat

    And let’s look at ALL !!! my posts on VO - and then you will judge me ?! drinks good
    1. ancient
      ancient 22 July 2020 19: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: Crown without virus
      and then you will judge me ?!

      I never undertake to "judge" ...... for "..... do not judge, lest you be judged, for with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with what measure you measure, it will be measured to you. " wink drinks
      Although he is an ardent atheist himself, but ......... there is something in this saying wink drinks
      Better tell me, how do you like Mr. Mishustin's speech in the Duma today? "......... and this money will also go towards ELIMINATION OF CONSEQUENCES from ... OPTIMIZATION of medicine as a whole" .......... as I heard ..... already "closed" .. ... and in the government boxes there are all the faces ... who actively promoted and implemented ... this optimization wassat
  • yehat2
    yehat2 22 July 2020 17: 13 New
    +2
    as the Goblin likes to say on his channel: "if you don't know what the matter is, it means money."
  • Glagol1
    Glagol1 22 July 2020 17: 43 New
    +3
    This is not done behind the back of the king by his retinue. This was definitely agreed with him. The scale is all the same ... But! They ripped off the popular answer and ended up losing 10 times more. Thimblers have no macro brain. On the example of Khabarovsk, we now know that we will rebuff the junta and remove it !!!
  • Commissar of the NKVD
    Commissar of the NKVD 22 July 2020 18: 23 New
    +2
    That is, Furgalu flew in response for his entertainment in 2004, did I understand correctly? Boomerang, so to speak.
    In general, it is not clear what prevented such powerful oligarchs as the Rotenbergs from stupidly buying any judge and squeezing Amurstal with a banal raider takeover? Why put on this cheap show?
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 22 July 2020 21: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: Commissioner of the NKVD
      That is, Furgalu flew in response for his entertainment in 2004, did I understand correctly? Boomerang, so to speak.
      In general, it is not clear what prevented such powerful oligarchs as the Rotenbergs from stupidly buying any judge and squeezing Amurstal with a banal raider takeover? Why put on this cheap show?

      Because it's cheaper laughing
  • kriten
    kriten 22 July 2020 18: 26 New
    -1
    We don't get imprisoned for murder, or what? The fact that he was a bandit, he killed people - it doesn't matter! the same is customary in Khabarovsk: interfere, kill. The security forces are covering. Paradise is just ... people are rebelling ... Money always has something to do with it, but all this does not justify murder. But those who in Russia the law does not mean anything and write such that would justify the murderer.
  • JD1979
    JD1979 22 July 2020 18: 43 New
    -2
    I read the article. I sit there and think: what a bad Poo and his team in white kimonos. They gave the poor oligarch his share in the factory and the governor's chair.
    Until I read this.
    https://www.russiapost.su/archives/217748
    Now I think which article is custom? This? That? Or both? ))
    Well, yes, both there and there the message: nothing personal, only money. The only question is who they legally belong in this story.
  • Ivancenco Mihail
    Ivancenco Mihail 22 July 2020 19: 04 New
    +6
    Since ... Country Russia, is a raw materials appendage of the West, only for pumping out resources. And how not sad to say ...! ?? People...!! the same "resource. !! -. pumped out" and went nafig.
    Therefore, the pension fund was extended ... !! and if you still "survive". ??
    That is a contrived (ARTIFICIAL) coronavirus. !!! Will kill a certain "remnant of people".
    It is., It is very painful to speak. BUT THIS IS WHAT IS.