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"Putin does not interfere, fearing weakening of power": Western media on protests in Khabarovsk

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Foreign media actively cover events in Russian Khabarovsk. This once again speaks about the oddities of modern freedom of speech in the world: the Russian federal channels have the main topic of fire in the cathedral of French Nantes, and the western ones have protests in the Russian Far East ... Not all media prefer to talk about problems within their countries and not always.


Forbes published a material where, with reference to several political scientists, it was stated that the Russian government found itself in a difficult situation. At the same time, it is added that it is also impossible to call the situation "hopeless" for the Kremlin. The article cites the opinion of political scientist Abbas Gallyamov, who says that the authorities' hopes for something “that will dissipate by itself” have not been justified.

“Voice of America” comes out with material that speaks about the opinion of the protesters in Khabarovsk. The author on the website of the radio station tells readers that the protests began after the arrest of the governor, who was charged with committing serious crimes in the mid-2000s - when he was not yet the head of the region. The protesters, according to VOA, are perplexed about why, if Sergei Furgal really has committed crimes, the investigators did not deal with him before, and how, in general, a person with a probable criminal past could end up in the chair of the head of the Russian region. That is why, as noted, many of the participants in the numerous protest action consider the arrest of Furgal, carried out right now, politically motivated.

An article was published at Deutsche Welle stating that protests in Khabarovsk were directed against Russian President Vladimir Putin. From material:

The President of Russia (Vladimir Putin) does not intervene, fearing that actions may have unpleasant consequences and weaken his power.

German journalists say that just a couple of weeks after successfully voting on the amendments to the Constitution, "Putin is facing a serious challenge."

At the same time, the statements of the protesters are cited as to why they took to the streets. One of the protesters said that “Furgal is a good governor, since during it airfare went down and food in kindergartens and schools improved.”
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 19 July 2020 15: 14 New
    52
    Furgal is just an excuse for the population to speak out! It's all-and total corruption in the country, and poverty, and unemployment, and a complete lack of understanding of the Kremlin what exactly and how to do! As they say, boiled and boiled all over Russia! I will not be amazed at the new teleobjection of the supreme to the people. ... People will vote at least for the devil in power, but against a united Russia, a party that has completely lost the public's confidence in itself!
    1. Procopius Nesterov
      Procopius Nesterov 19 July 2020 15: 22 New
      -43
      Someone authorized you to speak for all of Russia? For example, I have a different opinion.
      At the rallies, the Liberal Democratic Party electorate who chose this Furgala. They don’t care that he killed people. The contingent of those voting for Zhirinovsky is like that.
      For the rest, people like you immediately began to use this whole story, and by the way, you do not like the fact that their posters say the freedom of Furgalu, since the political strategists understand that the people will not support such a slogan. They will definitely not support this killer in other regions and cities, except a handful of completely repulsed oppositionists.
      By the way, note that there are no red flags at the rallies, which means the communists decided not to get dirty in this LDPR manure. Support for the killer is a reputation spoiled for a long time. The rallies will take place, and the killers will remember about the support of the criminal for a long time and will remind them.
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 19 July 2020 15: 37 New
        12
        Prokopiy Nesterov-horses do not pass with you, do not poke, but say what I want and have the right to say! And impose your opinion on yourself, perhaps yourself, and at least politely scold you for your arrogance!
      2. Pravodel
        Pravodel 19 July 2020 15: 39 New
        65
        The court must prove that he is a murderer, but the fact that the Khabarovsk Territory and the Far East require a serious purge is a fact. How many officials were removed for bribes? How many fish were driven over the hill and sold illegally for currency? How many illegal cars were brought into Russia for sale? How many homemade products were made from Japanese trash that later killed people? How much wood and metal was stolen into China illegally, duty-free, criminally? The authorities in the Far East are responsible for all this. Obviously, more than one Furgal will be dealt with by law enforcement agencies.
        1. Asad
          Asad 19 July 2020 16: 16 New
          36
          Any major official from the 90s can be taken for Faberge, as well as the oligarchs!
          1. Invoce
            Invoce 20 July 2020 14: 00 New
            +1
            Quote: ASAD
            Anyone a major official from the 90s you can take for Fabergelike the oligarchs!

            Anyone who survived in the 90s can be taken for Faberge .... Anyone, incl. and those in power from the EP yes
        2. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 19 July 2020 16: 41 New
          32
          Quote: The Truth
          The court must prove that he is a murderer, but the fact that the Khabarovsk Territory and the Far East require a serious purge is a fact.

          I'm afraid the whole country requires a serious cleaning.
          1. Interlocutor
            Interlocutor 19 July 2020 19: 32 New
            -23
            I'm afraid the whole country requires a serious cleaning.

            Start cleaning yourself ...
          2. Alexander I
            Alexander I 20 July 2020 16: 38 New
            -2
            if you clean everyone, with whom will you stay?
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 21 July 2020 00: 56 New
              -3
              if you clean everyone, with whom will you stay?


              with Shvonder and the team. Professor Preobrazhensky will be stigmatized and expelled from society like other kremlebots.
              The VO Forum's team of light red reformers will issue and enforce laws on all good and against all bad

              1. andrew42
                andrew42 27 July 2020 16: 29 New
                +1
                Petrov, we were late with their scarecrows. The Shvonders have long seized and hold power, and in their youth they were all painted red.
            2. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 21 July 2020 06: 07 New
              +2
              Quote: AlexanderI
              if you clean everyone, with whom will you stay?

              Read Nosov if you don't have time:
              I'd rather not have a son at all than a thief's son.
              1. Alexander I
                Alexander I 21 July 2020 15: 15 New
                0
                Menshikov had a different opinion)))
        3. Angelo Provolone
          Angelo Provolone 20 July 2020 01: 41 New
          +3
          and the authorities in the Far East are responsible for all this.

          right. Here I live in Vladivostok. Here is a rampant crime. What they want is what they do.
      3. 210ox
        210ox 19 July 2020 15: 46 New
        39
        You say that the trial has already taken place and the verdict has been passed? Already call a killer. And the question is really difficult, and this is a double-edged sword. If it turns out that he is indeed implicated in the crime, then how is the power vertical formed and why do such high-ranking officials appear?
        1. Don
          Don 19 July 2020 16: 21 New
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          Quote: 210ox
          If it turns out that he is indeed implicated in the crime, then how is the power vertical formed and why do such high-ranking officials appear?

          Dmitriy hiI confess you surprised me. At our age, it is no longer appropriate to wear pink glasses. It is common knowledge that politics is a very dirty business, because the question is about huge money. In this jar of spiders, saints and not soiled are not to be found.
          1. 210ox
            210ox 19 July 2020 16: 38 New
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            Yes, it is clear that the politician is dirty. But still. The rules of morality and law must be observed (at least externally). Saints and not messed up in anything and among ordinary people can not be found .... hi
      4. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 19 July 2020 15: 49 New
        -10
        Quote: Procopius Nesterov
        At the rallies, the Liberal Democratic Party electorate who chose this Furgala. They don’t care that he killed people. The contingent of those voting for Zhirinovsky is like that.
        By the way, an indicative moment: even notebooks in the form of the Communist Party and its branches dissociated themselves from this whistle, not wanting to get dirty. But the entire marginal contingent happily blended into this fornication, which once again showed their own lack of principle and stupidity. Moreover, at all levels, while not realizing what they got themselves into. In general, it’s fun to watch freak DJs reflexively starting old records in relation to these gatherings.
        Well, everything is according to Vertinsky: "Where stupidity is divine, the mind is nothing."
        Only a couple of examples, at least from this thread:
        boiled, and boiled all over Russia! Not udevlusnew televocation supreme to the people. ...
        The second week the Khabarovsk Territory on really folk rallies.
        1. And why do you need
          And why do you need 20 July 2020 05: 19 New
          +4
          It's easy to hang labels on the Internet for us Khabarovsk residents, but a disrespectful writer of such opuses doesn't want to say this at a rally in Khabarovsk?
      5. Tahtvjd2868
        Tahtvjd2868 19 July 2020 16: 48 New
        +6
        Who are the judges?
      6. ltc35
        ltc35 19 July 2020 19: 11 New
        16
        I always liked that for the most part polite and well-mannered people communicate on this site. Poking a stranger is very bad. Now on the topic: living in Siberia, I did not meet the total support of the United Russia and the guarantor. If there are, then these are the city administrations and some individuals, let’s say, “difficult” people. The circle of my communication is very wide - from deputies to a simple worker, so I can see the whole picture from different angles.
      7. Aag
        Aag 19 July 2020 20: 50 New
        +2
        Quote: Procopius Nesterov
        Someone authorized you to speak for all of Russia? For example, I have a different opinion.
        At the rallies, the Liberal Democratic Party electorate who chose this Furgala. They don’t care that he killed people. The contingent of those voting for Zhirinovsky is like that.
        For the rest, people like you immediately began to use this whole story, and by the way, you do not like the fact that their posters say the freedom of Furgalu, since the political strategists understand that the people will not support such a slogan. They will definitely not support this killer in other regions and cities, except a handful of completely repulsed oppositionists.
        By the way, note that there are no red flags at the rallies, which means the communists decided not to get dirty in this LDPR manure. Support for the killer is a reputation spoiled for a long time. The rallies will take place, and the killers will remember about the support of the criminal for a long time and will remind them.

        Let's make it simpler, without emotions: take a look at the pros, cons for you and your apponent. Does it make you think? Or, as has happened more than once, there will be a comment about the Border bots, paid in bulk?
        I do not presume to judge, because I do not have sufficient, reliable information, but what is available is enough to strongly doubt the sincerity of the statements and versions of the authorities.
      8. Kisa
        Kisa 20 July 2020 02: 43 New
        +3
        and I have a question for the editors of the VO - here the couple somehow rubbed the comments so dashingly they didn't even leave a trace - you also have censorship as central channels ??? can then cancel the comments ...
        here is my comment saved by Procopius Nesterov at 15; 28
        for amendments - you followed here on VO for the dynamics before the vote - a couple of people campaigned to vote "for" and they were fiercely minus 90% of members of the forum. Is VO for you a representative section of society? or here all the zaslanets ... the same is for Khabarovsk - the pro-Putin people go deep into the minus here ...
        right now you’ll be telling me where our people are here - well, come to us in Vladivostok and show us how to love our homeland. this cattle attitude of Moscow got it - a third of the population has already escaped ....
      9. Roman123567
        Roman123567 20 July 2020 12: 06 New
        -5
        They don’t care that he killed people.
        Well, you don’t care that those sitting in power in the Kremlin were killing people ..
    2. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 19 July 2020 15: 31 New
      +3
      at least for whom they already voted, so he drunk for two terms. Enough! hi
    3. IGOR GORDEEV
      IGOR GORDEEV 19 July 2020 17: 17 New
      -1
      Quote: Thrifty
      People will vote at least for the devil in power, but against a united Russia, a party that has completely lost the public's confidence in itself!

      Sounds very, very encouraging.
    4. tagil
      tagil 19 July 2020 17: 52 New
      -1
      Furgal is just an excuse for the population to speak out! It's all-and total corruption in the country, and poverty, and unemployment, and a complete lack of understanding of the Kremlin what exactly and how to do! As they say, boiled and boiled all over Russia!
      Honestly, I would swear right now. I live long enough in this world, far from an oligarch (I just wasn’t a beggar), but officials have never asked me a single bribe for my life. Am I living in another country or something? Throughout her life, I bought the girl a chocolate bar so that she could draw up documents at the registry office without queuing, and that was because he was leaving.
    5. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 19 July 2020 19: 31 New
      +1
      As they say, boiled and boiled all over Russia!

      And what about you Lean boiling. Who offended you? Write the name and action of this person? What is his arbitrariness in relation to you?
      People will vote at least for the hell in power

      No need to speak for people. They will not vote for devils.
    6. Maz
      Maz 19 July 2020 20: 25 New
      -10
      In the Khabarovsk Territory, internal tension between the population is growing. More and more people are dissatisfied with the protests and are calling for others to live in peace. The day before, a poster "I / We ask for silence" was hung on the building of the city hospital. Furgal's accomplices collected all the rot from Primorye, Khabarovsk Territory, and Amur Region. They drove there a journalist like Dozhd from Russia and Europe, they want to destabilize the situation, and then crawl out and like to restore order. They had been preparing this march all week, and then no more than 10 came out of the 000 thousandth Khabarovsk. Even homeless people were driven from the seaside. Oh well. I wish the patience of the police and all the idlers to record documents on video and photos ... let them climb out, it will be easier to deal with them later.
      1. Aag
        Aag 19 July 2020 20: 52 New
        -1
        https://www.facebook.com/100008648178257/posts/2422403634724552/?sfnsn=scwspwa&extid=bkBeBHOGR2HDWkYe
      2. flicker
        flicker 19 July 2020 21: 55 New
        +4
        I wish the patience of the police and all the idlers to record documents on video and photos ... let them get out, it will be easier to deal with them later.
        This is true, especially since there is plenty of photo and video material, and they themselves take pictures of themselves and each other (they say in order to show their employers that they took part in the rally)
      3. Far East
        Far East 20 July 2020 03: 21 New
        +2
        Maz, I considered you a thinking person! I was wrong! live better where you live! come, I'll pump you, say these words to the KHABAROVCHANS!
        1. Maz
          Maz 20 July 2020 12: 14 New
          -4
          Quote: Far East
          Maz, I considered you a thinking person! I was wrong! live better where you live! come, I'll pump you, say these words to the KHABAROVCHANS!

          You are such a Far Easterner as I am a Jew. There is no point in confusing the mafia games of criminals and the bureaucracy that have grown together with them with the real desires and aspirations of the Far East. Khabarovsk for the most part did not support them. And this vomiting Furgal country still hiccups. But the guys will deal with her. No doubt. I was in touch with Khabarovsk on an Internet yesterday. Our guys in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, VV, FSB, and Moscow Region are determined and decisive, thoughtful, and will work competently. Just twitch, the lessons are not completed - it will not seem enough. And you won't be able to escape abroad - a pandemic. we will catch everyone and you will suck the term as it should. So let's - "rally" from the mafia
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      4. andrew42
        andrew42 27 July 2020 16: 33 New
        +1
        Maz, I forgot to write about CIA agents. You can add more reptilians for greater loyalty. You are looking for rot in the wrong place, it is better to look in the capital city - in the "gastrointestinal tract of our Motherland" (and when that was the Heart).
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    8. Maz
      Maz 20 July 2020 12: 05 New
      +2
      I completely agree with the above. briefly and clearly about the origin of the processions in Khabarovsk. They would have torches, tattoos and a swastika.
      If you think about it, we have a standard for a rough estimate of the number of protesters: Moscow, 1944. 57 thousand captured Nazi Nazis, which is more than accurate and confirmed information. It makes sense from the images to compare the size and length of the 1944 column and the current crowd.
    9. Maz
      Maz 20 July 2020 13: 11 New
      +1
      I advise you to think about this expression: " Russia is not a country that can be conquered, that is, occupied ... Such a country can be defeated only by its own weakness or the action of internal strife " - Karl von Clausewitz .. And now think to whom is the most advantageous for this dressy show in Khabarovsk? In any case, certainly not to friends of Russia or its real patriots.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 21 July 2020 06: 27 New
        +3
        Quote: Maz
        In any case, certainly not to friends of Russia or its real patriots.

        Who do you consider to be the real patriots of Russia? Those who for thirty years have been and are engaged in the genocide of the Russian population, depriving them of the right to a dignified life: employment by vocation, provision of housing on demand, receiving qualified medical care without bribery, and many others?
        Maybe you love those patriots who squeal that there is no money, but they themselves fed faces, from which you can light a cigarette without an umbrella in the pouring rain?
        Who do you consider patriots? Order-bearers such as Matvienko, Kirienko, Rottenberg, Rogozin, Borisov, Potanin, Kiselev, Solovyov ...
        Whom? Who is trying to prove to the people that he is the best, without entering into open discussions, without being responsible for the promises made, without showing any real results? Who, in senile marasmus, is fighting not with the reasons that give rise to lawlessness, but with a curious electorate, lost in conjectures about the prospects for their future, the future of their children and the country as a whole?
    10. Maz
      Maz 25 July 2020 20: 01 New
      0
      The whole truth about protest❗️
      "To hold a meeting for a thousand rubles" ☝️
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 19 July 2020 15: 17 New
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    And what is there to be surprised? We have the same system as in the West, and the media are the same, blinded in their image and likeness, with rare exceptions.
    the main topic of Russian federal channels is the fire in the cathedral of Nantes, France, and of the western ones, protests in the Russian Far East ... Not all media prefer to talk about problems within their countries, and not always.
    yes good 100% It is.
    The second week the Khabarovsk Territory was at really popular rallies. According to TV, they wondered how many people had come there. And Solovyov agreed to an apology already. I want to repeat myself. Don’t try to insult the Khabarovsk people. And label them.
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 19 July 2020 15: 25 New
      -5
      I want to add fresh from Konstantin Semin. So to say his vision over the past week. And then in VO then spinning his videos. But no. In my opinion hi
    2. Thunderbringer
      Thunderbringer 19 July 2020 15: 38 New
      +6
      And how much has come?
      Is it the whole region?
      There is no need to worry about the Khabarovsk citizens.
  3. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 19 July 2020 15: 20 New
    -27
    Uncle Vova is doing everything right. The loudmouths will pay off, the people will let off steam, and everything will end, quietly and peacefully.
    1. Thunderbringer
      Thunderbringer 19 July 2020 15: 36 New
      +1
      "Uncle Vova" also conducts parallel work, quietly, so to speak.
      While the bawlers are trying to squeeze something out of this situation.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 19 July 2020 15: 37 New
        -1
        Uncle Vova always conducts parallel work, if this is not clear. Because a professional.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 20 July 2020 08: 52 New
          +6
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Uncle Vova always conducts parallel work, if this is not clear. Because a professional.

          In which field of knowledge is he professional?
    2. Maz
      Maz 20 July 2020 12: 27 New
      -2
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      Uncle Vova is doing everything right. The loudmouths will pay off, the people will let off steam, and everything will end, quietly and peacefully.

      Not all bawlers - to the zugunder and to the database. We don't need a fifth column on the border with China and Japan
  4. BAI
    BAI 19 July 2020 15: 24 New
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    if there really are committed crimes behind Sergei Furgal, the investigators have not dealt with them before, and how, in general, could a person with a probable criminal past end up in the chair of the head of the Russian region.

    As long as the governor is politically pleasing - he can have any past of any kind, nobody cares. But if the political is undesirable, they will get everything from the moment of birth. Vaughn, some senator right in the conference room, under the comments of Matvienko, was arrested. How did he become a senator?
    1. Aag
      Aag 19 July 2020 21: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: BAI
      if there really are committed crimes behind Sergei Furgal, the investigators have not dealt with them before, and how, in general, could a person with a probable criminal past end up in the chair of the head of the Russian region.

      As long as the governor is politically pleasing - he can have any past of any kind, nobody cares. But if the political is undesirable, they will get everything from the moment of birth. Vaughn, some senator right in the conference room, under the comments of Matvienko, was arrested. How did he become a senator?

      In this connection, a question arises for the special services, whose interests do they “serve?” Well, yes, naively, after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
      Simply, the question has already been raised, the governor of the region, in wartime, the commander of the district (which has changed, correct). Accordingly, at least the 2nd form of admission! Or, as usual: someone will not go to the funeral of parents in the former Soviet Union , because he held a nuclear missile shield (over those who sold out, plundered the COUNTRY), and now needs a rest, at "foreign resorts" ..
      1. sg7s
        sg7s 19 July 2020 22: 37 New
        -6
        Moreover, he was in the State Duma TWICE, twice ... That is, such an interesting precedent and an inconvenient turn for the authorities - the authorities say: "we clean the governors" (apparently, they wanted to "throw a bone" to the people and at the same time lay siege to overly impudent vans) , but in fact, according to their own message - it is necessary to clean the Duma? So they scratch their turnips in the Kremlin - maybe it will resolve itself.
    2. flicker
      flicker 19 July 2020 21: 59 New
      +5
      Vaughn, some senator right in the conference room, under the comments of Matvienko, was arrested.
      Is that Arashukova?
      There was a case, but for some reason there was no noise, like, "return the Arashukovs to us," "Arashukov is our senator," etc. etc.
      bully
  5. Well
    Well done 19 July 2020 15: 25 New
    -51
    All protesters for compulsory work. Although it will be useful. Relax! It's a pity the moratorium, otherwise Furgala to the wall and the topic is closed.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 19 July 2020 15: 45 New
      +5
      You haven’t messed up anything, Welldone?
      1. Well
        Well done 19 July 2020 15: 57 New
        -14
        Not. The wagon is one of those lads from the 90s. And with this audience I have personal scores.
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 19 July 2020 17: 13 New
          11
          Maybe I don’t know. For the brothers of the 90s and I have no affection in my experience. The point is not Furgal, but the fact that the thieves' power is trying to challenge the choice of the people, and not for the first time.
          1. Well
            Well done 19 July 2020 17: 27 New
            -10
            Me from your expression "thieves' power" is already jarring. Phobos took up the wagon, this is not casual. Kirdyk measure)
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 19 July 2020 18: 56 New
              10
              And I, Ilya, is jarred by the fact that the government is thieves. If they prove it, let them answer, but honestly, that the confession of the accomplice looks strange, in quotes or not, I really don't know.
              But the fact that the candidates for the post of governor of the FSB should have been checked up to the seventh generation and not checked is also strange, like recognition fifteen years later.
              1. Interlocutor
                Interlocutor 19 July 2020 19: 35 New
                -1
                And I, Ilya, is jarred by the fact that the government is thieves.

                Are you a saint?
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral 19 July 2020 19: 38 New
                  10
                  I’m not a saint, but taxes, for the most part I paid in full, I didn’t do cashing. And then - I'm not in power, not a sovereign man.
                  1. Interlocutor
                    Interlocutor 19 July 2020 19: 39 New
                    -2
                    And then - I am not in power, not a sovereign person.

                    This is the reason for the criticism. And we pay everything for logs. This is how the system works. So to speak. Even the one who steals - pays taxes.
                    1. NordUral
                      NordUral 19 July 2020 19: 43 New
                      11
                      And I didn’t need power. There was a business, and not stolen from the country, but from scratch. Now retired.
                      Do not judge by yourself, Interlocutor.
                      1. Interlocutor
                        Interlocutor 19 July 2020 19: 51 New
                        -3
                        Do not judge by yourself, Interlocutor.

                        I do not judge you by myself.
                        Power. This is everything that surrounds and protects us on our territory. You hait her just because you're used to it. (He had a case). Get busy. Are you retired or not. Who offended you there that all the thieves are around?
                      2. NordUral
                        NordUral 19 July 2020 20: 11 New
                        +3
                        I am not saying that everything. I only know about those whom this power itself does not bring out the white light. And those who stole the country's economy from the people during the privatization waves. And lastly, I am not offended, everything is in order, decently already retired, I do not need anything. And I work on various little things, just for the soul.
                        And your advice
                        Get busy.
                        in tune with the government's advice to deferred retirees, just wonderful. Although in my case it is quite suitable, there is still health, but not so much as to be serious.
                      3. Well
                        Well done 19 July 2020 21: 39 New
                        +1
                        Right. No compromise is your point of view. And the generals of the sofa can only minus. drinks
            2. Well
              Well done 19 July 2020 21: 28 New
              0
              How did the authorities offend you? Did you vote for her? ... The Criminal Code has a 15-year deadline, and Furgal fits it. And if you take into account 2-3 articles - well, a ghoul.
              1. NordUral
                NordUral 19 July 2020 21: 34 New
                +1
                How did the authorities offend you? Voted for her? ...

                Never.
                I wrote that it was not about Furgal. I think you read this.
  6. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 19 July 2020 17: 32 New
    -7
    Oh, well, such "jobs" will just sit around, mess around and gorge themselves at the expense of our taxes.
  7. Aag
    Aag 19 July 2020 21: 22 New
    0
    Quote: Welldone
    All protesters for compulsory work. Although it will be useful. Relax! It's a pity the moratorium, otherwise Furgala to the wall and the topic is closed.

    Let's try without emotions. Well, really, it's interesting. Can you expand, in the sense of expanding, substantiate your comment?
  8. flicker
    flicker 19 July 2020 22: 03 New
    0
    All protesters for compulsory work.
    Heavy fines from all protesters.
    And with the money raised to build a kindergarten, a polyclinic or a sports hall in Khabarovsk.
    At least there will be some benefit from these protests for the city and the region.
  9. Well
    Well done 19 July 2020 22: 48 New
    0
    Here's the result! Sofa clever men mixed me with ..... And iq does not allow to argue? That is why the power is like that. For you)
  • rocket757
    rocket757 19 July 2020 15: 27 New
    11
    Power of the street, nowhere and nothing good followed.
    People went out to defend their interests, "their own good" governor, this is understandable. People do not believe in Moscow, the central government, this is also understandable ... BUT, in order to achieve something, we need a unifying structure, a CENTER !!! Is there this unifying center there? Because there are always those willing to intercept the protest and use it for their own purposes!
    These spontaneous bursts of activity will not bear any real benefit if we do not learn to unite, we do not create something really acting, coordinating, uniting. Which will unite us all, and will provoke all sorts of provocateurs immediately, completely.
    So far, nothing of the kind has been observed.
    1. Thunderbringer
      Thunderbringer 19 July 2020 15: 35 New
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      And will not be.
      Because all this is only for destruction. Only.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 19 July 2020 16: 06 New
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        When people go out to defend their interests, we need to understand this, we need to understand the reasons that prompted them to protest !!!
        In this particular case, there are REASONS! "Our" current government whose interesy expresses, defends ??? The ruling class.
        And who is the ruling class? The capitalists are rich!
        There is already a fundamental reason, since there is a fundamental divergence of interests! And then, people endure for an infinitely long time, as long as the government adheres to a reasonable framework, does not cross a certain line.
        A certain trait, a very specific state of maintaining a reasonable balance!
        And now the MAIN QUESTION - who violated the balance? Who's lost his mind ???
        1. _Sergei_
          _Sergei_ 19 July 2020 16: 30 New
          +3
          So they went out to defend the interests of their Khabarovsk ruling class.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 19 July 2020 17: 00 New
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            I make an assumption - that their local ruling class, DOESN'T cross the devil, i.e. a reasonable balance of interests was maintained. People are AFRAID that the AGAIN APPOINTED, not local or from another financial and political b & b group, will row only FOR OWN !!!
            Do we have few such precedents? Do you think the fears of people are empty or there are grounds for fears ???
            1. _Sergei_
              _Sergei_ 19 July 2020 17: 07 New
              -1
              I just know how it was. Local proletarians were offered a paid working day for an hour at the meeting. And since there are a lot of enterprises controlled by the Furgala family and his clerks, the first day there were a lot of people.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 19 July 2020 17: 19 New
                +6
                There is no smoke without fire.
                There would be no reason, not a great group would come once, twice, and then it all dissipates, without traces.
              2. sg7s
                sg7s 19 July 2020 23: 00 New
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                And on the eighth day? Also "paid"? Well, admit the obvious things - people have been brought to their feet, pensions are the lowest in Europe, purchasing power is falling, prices are rising - all this despite the open lies of the authorities that "we are going forward." "Effective managers" are destroying everything that they undertake, education-medicine has been ruined, we are not getting rid of natural rent (the trade balance is now in two quarters - the worst in 20 years), it’s even scary to think for a year, it’s not in vain that the word "budget surplus" disappeared from box (IMHO, forever) .. There are objective things, you don't need to believe anyone, there is all the data in the public domain ...
        2. krops777
          krops777 20 July 2020 07: 48 New
          0
          When people go out to defend their interests, we need to understand this, we need to understand the reasons that prompted them to protest !!!


          People say hmm? In Ukraine, too, people went to the Maidan or Judas for 30 pieces of silver? Here we have to figure it out, it seems to me that this is a well-paid action by bandits or Westerners without a difference, they really need it now, much more than ordinary people.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 20 July 2020 10: 40 New
            0
            On Extreme, too, at the beginning everyone was mixed up and there WAS REASONS.
            Another thing is, THEN happened, who intercepted the protest ??? There are always those who are ready to intercept, direct, fish in troubled waters.
            It all depends on .... many reasons.
            In our situation, while there is no real power that can make a mess of a large scale ...
            My opinion is that in our province, nothing large-scale, catastrophic, can happen ... I’ll add right away, bye! They cannot shake the situation from the outside. Here we need a whole series of mistakes, shoals that have roots only within the country, from "responsible persons" t.s.
            1. krops777
              krops777 20 July 2020 16: 21 New
              -1
              On Extreme, too, at the beginning everyone was mixed up and there WAS REASONS.


              Here you are wrong “Galician blacks-selyuks” were brought right away, it’s another matter that at first, there were a lot of idly staggering Kievans on the Maidan, but the curators initially pursued the goal clearly and according to plan.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 20 July 2020 17: 14 New
                +1
                Whether one of us is right or not ... that's not the point. The external authorities themselves not only allowed a similar course of events, but to a large extent contributed to this.
                Such a good lesson is for everyone .... that's just who took it to learn and what conclusions / measures it takes, the question is very interesting.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 19 July 2020 15: 41 New
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      Correct thoughts, I support, Victor.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 19 July 2020 16: 13 New
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        There are fundamental differences in our society, and the main one, as in any other country, the power of the capitalists cannot be a blessing to the working class, people of labor!
        It's just that in many countries they have learned to maintain a reasonable balance of interes, which does not cause violent protests of the working masses ...
        But this is definitely NOT ABOUT US! We are balancing, and so on the limit, so the rich are few, few, and so strive to delay more.
        It seems that not everyone is personally affected ... BUT THIS ONLY SEEMS, everything is interconnected !!!
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 19 July 2020 16: 26 New
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          But this is definitely NOT ABOUT US! We are balancing, and so on the limit, so the rich are few, few, and so strive to delay more.

          I’m constantly wondering at this all at all .. how is it possible ... already stolen from the seventh knee, well, do something good for people .. no, you need more and more .. Greed, stupidity ..
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 19 July 2020 17: 04 New
            +7
            There is such a category of people, they pull themselves without measure, without ..... in short, the people are finished. Unfortunately, for many, this erupts clearly when they seized on the “feeding trough”! This is a trouble!
            1. depressant
              depressant 19 July 2020 18: 30 New
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              No, colleagues, that's not the point. I used to think like you too. And then I scoffed and realized: in business, if there is no development and capital gains, you will be bypassed and the business will be taken away. Two ways. One is to develop intellectually through innovation and attracting investments, the other is to take away someone else's business and walk through corpses. The last one is the 90s. Which, by the way, are in no hurry to leave.
          2. andrew42
            andrew42 27 July 2020 16: 40 New
            +2
            This is called so, - The ideology of the ruling elite. The ideology of the Golden Calf, which is constantly smeared with Patriotism, is a concept that Putin will soon devalue to zero and to a minus. This is understandable - for them, Patriotism is "not their own, not a pity."
    3. Kisa
      Kisa 19 July 2020 15: 50 New
      12
      so about this and speech. Taking a pause for a long time is also fraught - there are many who want to lead the process from Navalny or Zhirik to the State Department or Chinese intelligence. It's good that you don't have enough mind so far not to disperse by force - right now, throw a match and poverty will blaze despite the 70% support drawn. probably a logical decision right now they will be nightmare on the central TV about an unprecedented flash of cove
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 19 July 2020 16: 20 New
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        Quote: kitty
        so about this and speech. taking a pause for a long time is also fraught - there are many who want to lead the process

        The upper ones had a concrete, upper path, not to bring the country to such a state !!! Show more common sense and temper your zeal .... servants serving!
        And what are they doing. What do they intend to do now?
        These ..... servants give free rein, they are all working, disagreeing people in .... they will write down somewhere and start driving them! Doesn't stand out ... the servant has a great mind, the soul of the majority ... the servants.
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 19 July 2020 17: 08 New
          11
          .... servants.
          Yes, it is the service, and very numerous.
    4. your1970
      your1970 19 July 2020 16: 47 New
      -3
      Quote: rocket757
      Which will unite us all, and will provoke all sorts of provocateurs immediately, completely.
      So far, nothing of the kind has been observed.

      And it won’t be observed .... The whole Lenin Guard turned out to be “enemies of the people” 10 years later ....ALL....
      Would you even try to make mistakes, learn something ....
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 19 July 2020 17: 10 New
        +1
        With any usurpation of power, whether by a cohesive group, there is a "redistribution of powers" in their favor. ALWAYS, EVERYWHERE! The methods of "redistribution" differ little, in fact and in fact.
        Teach, at the same time, world history, it is very useful for understanding what is happening.
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 19 July 2020 19: 28 New
        +2
        Lenin’s guard! Just one smart, knowing the history of revolutions, took everything upon himself. All revolutions before this ate their heroes, then ate themselves. The first point he left and the second he didn’t allow and won. They stayed there until the 90s.
        1. your1970
          your1970 19 July 2020 21: 08 New
          +1
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Just one smart one, knowing the history of revolutions, took it upon himself.
          - where is the guarantee - what's in necessary will there be a moment Stalin ?? no ...
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 19 July 2020 21: 36 New
            -1
            This is sad, you can't see such a person! Putin, with all his positive baggage, is not that “caliber.” His only statement is to plant, and with whom we will work.
            1. your1970
              your1970 19 July 2020 22: 25 New
              +2
              Quote: tralflot1832
              "One of his statements" Plant, and with whom we will work. Causes laughter! "

              funny.... gee-gee ...
              Only here at Stalin, at an even worse moment (autumn 1941 !!!), there was Zhigarev ...
              "He slowly approached the general. His hand began to rise." Will he really hit? "- a thought flashed through my mind.
              Scoundrel! - with an expression of deepest contempt Stalin said and lowered his hand. - Out!
              The speed with which Pavel Fedorovich retired apparently corresponded to his condition. We were left alone. "
              Here, fight and work with this man! He doesn't even know what's going on in his own diocese! You have to straighten things out! "
              "... Stalin had trousers with very deep pockets, from where he sometimes took out for a long time a soiled notebook - a" sorcerer "- and said:
              - This is my remedy liars (!!!!!!!!!!!) like Eremenko and Zhigarev! "

              You catch a thought ???? "makes me laugh" - Stalin has no one to work with, he eyes (!!!!) lie (!!!!!) and disrupt supplies to the front 702 (!!!!) airplanes.
              Punishment ??? !!!! Oh yes !!! a bullet right there in the back of the head from Poskrebyshev?
              General to the Far East ...

              I don't know about you - I find it funny ...
              Stalin only apparently was - not funny from absence workable frames ...
              And yes - after such revelations of Golovanov - I do not believe in nonsense that they went to Stalin and then covered themselves with fear
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 19 July 2020 22: 33 New
                -3
                I know this story, just that day Stalin was in the wrong mood. But after such a reception they probably worked with renewed vigor and waited for the knock on the door at night. I don't know why he did not shoot.
                1. your1970
                  your1970 19 July 2020 23: 01 New
                  +1
                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  I know this story, just that day Stalin was in the wrong mood. But after such a reception they probably worked with renewed vigor and waited for the knock on the door at night. I don't know why he did not shoot.

                  lol lol lol lol
                  Who have worked????Who waited at night ???
                  written for you
                  Quote: your1970
                  Stalin had trousers with very deep pockets, from where he sometimes took salted notebook - "sorcerer" - and said:
                  - This is my remedy liars (!!!!!!!!!!!) like Eremenko and Zhigarev! "

                  You are the word Russian "messy" (!!!!!) Do you understand ???? It was not a day, not two, or a month that was written in this book. They lied to him long period, and he wrote down ....
                  Eremenko together with Zhigarev in the infantry turned out to be ordinary somewhere near Rzhev / in Stalingrad?

                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  It makes you laugh!
                  such behavior of Stalin - he was like a tough ruler, everyone was afraid ... like ...
                  And this is not an isolated case, that is why Stalin all the time talks about cadres - "that cadres decide everything!" ... just around him the then versions of the current ...
                  The only difference is that the current ones also steal
                  1. tralflot1832
                    tralflot1832 19 July 2020 23: 37 New
                    -4
                    And how many of them shot after meetings at the ministerial level. I can’t imagine a state official who was under Stalin, Stalin could say far away, I’m here God and tsar. And under Putin it’s easy. One many hours of annual questions the answer on TV is what. For a long time I don’t watch them when Putin is asked what the call center will miss.
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 20 July 2020 00: 54 New
                      0
                      Quote: tralflot1832
                      I can not imagine state official who under Stalin, Stalin could say far away, I am here god and king.
                      -a Zhigarev in this situation -NOT king and God ??? !!! and - in the eyes Stalin ??? He did not care about the soiled Stalinist notebook was ???
                      for a lie into the eyes of Stalin:
                      "In April 1946 Zhigarev was appointed First Deputy Commander of the Air Force THE USSR. Since 1948 - Commander of Long-Range Aviation - Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Union Air Force.
                      Since September 1949 - Commander-in-Chief of the Union Air Force... Since April 1953 - Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force - Deputy (since March 1955 - First Deputy) Minister of Defense of the USSR. "

                      The kgovy NKVDeshniks did not beat them with their feet, did not chop down Voroshilov with a saber, did not gnaw at the German armor and did not bend the barrels with their hands ... not ... not ... not ... did not serve as a general in the Far East ...
                      He made quite a decent career for himself - under the "bloodsucker" Stalin ...
                      And this despite the fact that, through his fault, to the front NOT 702 planes hit on time - when all(!!!!!) The Air Force was one and a half thousand ...

                      Quote: tralflot1832
                      Plant, and with whom we will work. Causes laughter!
                      -Stalin apparently laughed a lot in this situation
                      1. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 20 July 2020 01: 14 New
                        -2
                        Why are you running around with these two. Stalin made the USSR a world power from an agrarian country. Cities with modern industry were built from scratch under him. Without like-minded people and tough management, nothing of this would have happened. Then there was simply no point in stealing. Such conditions. And now, wherever we go, they skillfully master budget funds, not a day without arrests. Therefore, we grow a teaspoon a year. We have forgotten how to work, we can only work for our own pocket. We are already tired of these constant shifts to the right. Where there is no budget funds are done on time.
                      2. your1970
                        your1970 20 July 2020 09: 04 New
                        +1
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        Why are you rushing with these two

                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        Without like-minded people and tight control, nothing would have happened

                        Pffff ... "With two" .....
                        If not to be afraid of The Air Force Commander and the commander at the moment of the most fierce polar fox - to lie in the eyes ..... What the hell is there - "Like-minded people and tough management" ......... And taking into account the absence of punishment, generally no punishment as such. ...
                        These two examples are a vivid indicator of what happened under Stalin in By myself business. ...

                        And a little earlier, in the 30s, Stalin was informed that there were two streams in the Red Cavalry, Chervontsy and Budenovites and supporters of one could not serve in units of the other, they survived, orders were not executed. Is it permissible in the army ?????? !!!!

                        And there were such cars, there was some kind of indescribable cesspool where you could not spit ...

                        During the pre-war period, about 1000 people from the trade missions remained abroad. Almost everything - they either spent the money and didn’t buy the right one, or received big kickbacks for the purchase of low-quality / unnecessary

                        They began to build the Dead Road under Stalin, it is vital !!!! Come on!!!!
                        Stalin dies - they immediately abandon it, and they throw it with rolling stock ..... And locomotives and carriages rot - when the country was always strained with rolling stock ...
                      3. andrew42
                        andrew42 27 July 2020 16: 47 New
                        +3
                        So they saw the budget, or "forgot how to work"? - You really decide, but there is no bundle. Those who "saw the budget" believe that this is their "work", they did not know how to work differently and will not, - the inside will not allow, there is nothing to unlearn. Who then "forgot how to work"? - Locksmiths, wipers? Oh well...
    5. your1970
      your1970 20 July 2020 11: 06 New
      0
      Quote: your1970
      Quote: rocket757
      Which will unite us all, and will provoke all sorts of provocateurs immediately, completely.
      So far, nothing of the kind has been observed.

      And it won’t be observed .... The whole Lenin Guard turned out to be “enemies of the people” 10 years later ....ALL....
      Would you even try to make mistakes, learn something ....

      -interesting - 8 minusers against 1) the "Lenin Guard", 2) "10 years", 3) "learns from mistakes" ?????
      fool fool fool
  • IGOR GORDEEV
    IGOR GORDEEV 19 July 2020 17: 21 New
    +3
    Quote: rocket757
    Because there are always those willing to intercept the protest and use it for their own purposes!
    These spontaneous bursts of activity will not bear any real benefit if we do not learn to unite, we do not create something really acting, coordinating, uniting. Which will unite us all, and will provoke all sorts of provocateurs immediately, completely.
    So far, nothing of the kind has been observed.

    In my opinion, what you described has not yet been possible for anyone, especially in Russia.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 19 July 2020 17: 57 New
      +6
      Whatever they say about the Soviet power, one thing is obvious, they managed to rally, mobilize a significant part of the country's population to fight both internal and external opponents.
      It was simply impossible to do this by a violent method at that moment.
      Anyway, there are such precedents in world history! At least in Europe, at least in Asia, Indochina, in America, in Africa.
      Let's just say that most of the world experienced such episodes. What these events were called does not matter. Was there an external presence there ... it was often, but again it does not matter, because significant masses of the population, just BUY it, is impossible. It means that there was a fastening idea, a unifying force.
  • Altona
    Altona 20 July 2020 08: 38 New
    +2
    Quote: rocket757
    BUT, in order to achieve something, we need a unifying structure, a CENTER !!! Is there this unifying center there?

    ----------------------------
    Your CENTER will be destroyed as soon as they find it. There is no sense in these "centers", they will simply be new "platoshkins," that is, those arrested for their views and appeals. A protest is effective if it is universal, as in France, for example.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 20 July 2020 08: 50 New
      +7
      Quote: Altona
      Altona (Eugene)

      Strongly welcome, Kamrad! How do you like Khabarovsk?
      Evil tongues, in the form of a fly-radar, claim that 4 cargo sides flew from Irkutsk to Khabarovsk, it is curious that / who is being transported.
      1. Altona
        Altona 20 July 2020 09: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: Stroporez
        How do you like Khabarovsk?

        -----------------
        For 20 years, people have the right to call things by their proper names. This is generally a greyhound - to arrest a person chosen by people and to shut the mouths of the population, while not forgetting to treat yourself to buns and nishtyaks from the same population - zeroing out, golosashki, easing the oligarchs.
        1. your1970
          your1970 20 July 2020 11: 24 New
          0
          Quote: Altona
          For 20 years, people have the right to call a spade a spade. This is generally a greyhound - to arrest a person chosen by people and shut the mouths of the population,
          - let's call a spade a spade
          March 25 2019 (!!!!) - not yesterday, this is a long-standing story ...
          "Khabarovsk Territory is collecting loans from commercial banks. Why did Governor Sergei Furgal forget about his promise to reduce the region's debt burden?"
          The Khabarovsk Territory continues to borrow, despite the election promises of Sergei Furgal. In March of this year alone, the regional government placed 7 tenders for the opening of a credit line totaling 1,225 billion rubles, reports The Moscow Post.
          Loans will be taken for 2 years, their cost will exceed 170 million rubles. In total, the Khabarovsk Territory government can attract up to 7 billion rubles of commercial loans, for which about 1,2 billion rubles will have to be paid from the regional budget.
          Again "no time to explain"?
          Khabarovsk Territory finished last year with debt obligations, which can be called catastrophic. RThe region owed 49 billion rubles, 8 billion more than by the end of 2017.
          And by the end of January 2019, the amount of debt increased already up to 54,9 billion rubles, in just 1 month by almost 6 billion rubles... And this despite the fact that In his election campaign, Governor Furgal, who was elected governor last September, vowed to fight the region's "debt burden". "
          http://www.moscow-post.su/politics/bystrye_kredity_dlja_furgala29265/

          And this is Regnum (NOT Putin's media)
          "As of September 1, 2018, the state debt of the Khabarovsk Territory was 51,6 billion rubles. Municipalities in the region received loans worth 3,7 billion rubles.
          As of June 1, 2020, the state debt of the Khabarovsk Territory increased and amounted to 57,9 billion rubles. During the reign of Furgal, municipalities also increased their loan portfolio - up to 3,97 billion rubles.
          In 2018, the budget of the Khabarovsk Territory received revenues in the amount of 102,98 billion rubles, expenses amounted to 115,16 billion rubles, the deficit - 12,18 billion. For 2020, the regional budget provides for revenues in the amount of 114,3 billion rubles, expenses - 121,57 billion rubles, the deficit is 7,198 billion rubles. "
          Details: https://regnum.ru/news/economy/3005465.html

          We have a governor - who scored loans and in order to justify himself a little - threw a handout to the people in the form of school lunches. The second handout - cutting salaries for themselves and officials - did not affect the people in any way, in no way ... The third handout - the sale of a yacht - has not yet taken place ...
          Attaching additional loans to the region - what is vital for the people?

          ZY the words metalworker and honesty are combined .... uh .. well, let's just say - a madam with "low social responsibility" can be a girl with a gooooo much more likely ...
  • demo
    demo 19 July 2020 15: 28 New
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    Yes. For the Kremlin, the reaction was completely unexpected.
    Although before that, during self-isolation in Ossetia, there were no less exciting events.
    What connects them?
    Complete disregard for the interests of people.
    In the first case, they drove everyone to their kennel and did not give people any hope: neither how to feed the children, nor when it will end, nor what the authorities will do to help.
    In the second they considered people weak-minded and threw an extremely dubious "linden" - he gave instructions for the murder 15 years ago.
    Tomorrow it may turn out that he was slandered by someone out of personal hostility. And then what?
    Or maybe Furgal interfered with someone?
    Not in terms of independence.
    And in terms of owning some kind of property that someone just liked.
    And it could be.
    In Russia, it is interest in your property that is primary, and your moral character is secondary.

    The nullifying amendment turned the eagle's head.
    Very sorry.
    After all, such a belief in oneself can come back.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 19 July 2020 15: 42 New
      10
      The nullifying amendment turned the eagle's head.
      Eagle? ... Hmm ... Upstairs, mostly vultures and hyenas.
    2. flicker
      flicker 19 July 2020 19: 21 New
      -1
      Or maybe Furgal interfered with someone?
      Not in terms of independence.
      And in terms of owning some kind of property that someone just liked.
      Many could lay eyes on the property, including those in the "business".
      ---
      That's just the noise is not made by children. When a business is doing push-ups, there is no such noise.
      Moreover, the media noise is not Khabarovsk, but far beyond the borders of the region.
      ---
      A similar media noise was after the arrest of Khodorkovsky, who really nurtured plans for the collapse of Russia.
      Here is something similar, not in the sense of individuals, but in the consequences of actions. Moreover, Khodorkovsky personally nursed, and Furgal was only a figure in the GAME, which he probably did not even know about.
      ---
      Furgal was a State Duma deputy from the Liberal Democratic Party. LDPR is quite a systemic party. Those. a party that observes (at least for the time being) the rules of the power system.
      So, Furgal is a system politician (observing the rules - you don’t follow the rules, you fly out of the system, you fly out of the system - you lose everything.) There is only one option when you leave the system and you don’t lose if you integrate into another system.
      ---
      2018 gubernatorial elections
      Edr's sport must win
      A van from the Liberal Democratic Party must lose.
      The first surprise is the second round.
      Sport offers Furgal the position of first deputy, Furgal agrees.
      Then at the last moment, Furgal decides to fight for the post of governor (Zhirinovsky gives the go-ahead)
      At the same time, Sport merges (practically does not fight - but after him EdRo !!!)
      ---
      We are talking about system policies, i.e. those who are not against the rules.
      So both Furgal and Shport got the command. To the first to take the post, to the second to yield.
      Question: who gave the command?
      If a system, then why did the system arrest Furgal two years later?
      And if the command was given not by the system, but by someone from the system, without informing the system?
      In this case, Furgal's arrest is understandable.
      ---
      If the second option - then what does this second option mean? When someone from the system specialists does not inform the system about the decision being made?
      This means that someone started their game and this game is aimed at the collapse of Russia. Moreover, many of the forces that dream of destroying Russia are speaking out in defense of Furgal.
      Furgal is a figure in someone's game, Furgal's arrest is a blow to this game. Hence the noise. There was no such noise when the Arashukovs were arrested. And now there is.
      Which, again, resembles the arrest of Khodorkovsky.
      ---
      I think that many of Furgal's curators would like to see him dead, because he is also a witness. And the Lefortovo prison is the safest place for him.
      1. Interlocutor
        Interlocutor 19 July 2020 19: 41 New
        -2
        ---
        We are talking about system policies, i.e. those who are not against the rules.
        So both Furgal and Shport got the command. To the first to take the post, to the second to yield.
        Question: who gave the command?
        If a system, then why did the system arrest Furgal two years later?
        And if the command was given not by the system, but by someone from the system, without informing the system?
        In this case, Furgal's arrest is understandable.


        Why are you telling us your fantasies?
        1. flicker
          flicker 19 July 2020 20: 21 New
          -4
          Why are you telling us your fantasies?
          Tell your fantasies. I'll listen.
          Moreover, these are not my fantasies, but quite discussed things.
          Want to challenge the fact that Furgal is a system politician?
          Give it a try.
          If you just don’t know what a system politician means, can I explain?
      2. demo
        demo 19 July 2020 20: 30 New
        +3
        That's just the noise is not made by children. When a business is doing push-ups, there is no such noise.

        If they squeeze me or you, then no one will notice.
        And if the governor?
        How to squeeze out without noise?
        All the same, the head of the region, with fairly broad powers.

        The reasoning is reasonably coherent. But with a very large number of assumptions and dark spots.
        The most incomprehensible thing is Sport offers Furgal the position of first deputy, Furgal agrees.
        Then at the last moment, Furgal decides to fight for the post of governor (Zhirinovsky gives the go-ahead)
        At the same time, Sport merges (practically does not fight - but after him EdRo !!!)


        It does not happen.
        Agreed, and then refused.
        How's that?
        Such fortels are stopped immediately.

        Wait two years to find out who started his game, when it becomes clear in a couple of months (someone starts winning tenders, someone starts to cut the budget, etc.).
        With the current means of information retrieval, you can find out everything about everyone.

        The forces that are playing the "Furgal card", aimed at the collapse of Russia, began to use it for one reason - they have no other options.
        At least something is needed.
        So I turned up.
        1. flicker
          flicker 19 July 2020 21: 36 New
          0
          It does not happen.
          Agreed, and then refused.
          How's that?
          Such fortels are stopped immediately.
          And yet it is. A lot has been said about this, it is not a secret.
          It is these tricks that make you think "why is this possible?"
          Wait two years to find out who started his game, when it becomes clear after a couple of months
          A year later, Mistryukov, a partner of Furgal, was arrested. Mistryukov has already testified at Furgal. Self-isolation, voting, a parade postponed the terms of arrest.
          The forces playing the "Furgal card" aimed at the collapse of Russia began to use it
          Maybe so.
          Only a lot they will not squeeze out of this situation. More like a false start, and forced. It is interesting to follow Zhirinovsky’s reaction. It was silent for a couple of days, then it was marked by an angry speech, saying that we would leave the Duma, almost calls for the overthrow of power. Then, he cooled down, it seemed like he would put up with the landing of Furgal, if only to keep the place of governor for the Liberal Democratic Party. He dissociated himself from the rallies in Khabarovsk, as did the leadership of the Khabarovsk Territory.
          Well, in any case, further events will show and clarify the situation.
          Z.Y. It seems to me that Trutnev will lose his post, he was responsible for the Far Eastern Federal District. After him, some of the AP.
        2. flicker
          flicker 19 July 2020 21: 48 New
          0
          Here's a snippet from the KP:
          "Vyacheslav Shport, the acting head of the region, offered his opponent, Liberal Democrat Sergei Furgal, a place in the regional government.

          - I see that you supported not only me, but also Sergey Furgal, so in order not to compete and not to pull the rope, I suggest that Sergey transfer to work in the government as the first deputy and work together to realize the promises we made to voters - Vyacheslav Shport, the candidate for governor of the Khabarovsk Territory from the United Russia party, addressed.
          He also said that together they will be able to work out the economic development of the region. Sergei Furgal, who in the first round won the majority of votes - 35,81% versus 35,62% of the votes of Sport, said that he was not chasing "big stars on shoulder straps".

          - I heard the proposal of Vyacheslav Ivanovich Shport, the governor of the Khabarovsk Territory. For me, the position is not important, the opportunity to fulfill the tasks and the promises that I gave you is important, ”said Sergey Furgal. - Therefore, I accept his proposal and am ready, if necessary, to roll up my sleeves and do everything possible to improve the lives of the inhabitants of our region.

          However, Sergei Furgal has not withdrawn his candidacy from the election, at least not yet. "

          There is a lot of material on this topic in the internet.
          1. demo
            demo 19 July 2020 22: 08 New
            +3
            I'm not a great physiognomist, but Furgal's appearance doesn't come across as a pathological liar.
            Or professional.
            Everything is not as straightforward as it seems.
            1. flicker
              flicker 19 July 2020 23: 36 New
              -1
              but Furgal's appearance does not come across as a pathological liar.
              Or professional.
              Does it make an impression of an enterprising person?
              If so, that's enough.
              Does Zhirinovsky give the impression of a bad deputy?
              And this, for a minute, is the party (read: ideological) leader of Furgal.
            2. your1970
              your1970 20 July 2020 11: 32 New
              0
              Quote: demo
              Everything is not as straightforward as it seems.
              - "metalworker", not bought for a pittance and sawn for metal factories, not?
              Of course, everything is ambiguous ...

              Z.Y. In the 90s, a blast for a brick factory - launched into metal - was blown up at once by three in one car. The contractor received the deadline and is still sitting, the customer is unknown (or maybe they banged a long time ago) ...
              1. demo
                demo 20 July 2020 12: 40 New
                +1
                They blew it up, probably not because the plant was ditched, but because someone else liked it?
                1. your1970
                  your1970 20 July 2020 12: 57 New
                  0
                  Two gangs were sharing aluminum pallets, the plant itself was not needed by anyone
                  1. demo
                    demo 20 July 2020 13: 05 New
                    +1
                    Do you mean the cages on which the brick was fed into the furnace?
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 20 July 2020 13: 15 New
                      0
                      I don't remember exactly, I know that there were aluminum pallets, there were a lot of them and because of them there was all boron cheese
  • Mihail55
    Mihail55 19 July 2020 15: 30 New
    22
    Our elected mayor Yevgeny Urlashov has been steaming on the bunk for the 8th year. And he said all the truth about the "party of crooks and thieves" ... ZEROING changes in the government will not lead to anything good ...
  • Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 19 July 2020 15: 33 New
    0
    You can only comment on this situation:

    no comment ...
  • Serpet
    Serpet 19 July 2020 15: 33 New
    -2
    How they want to make a mess here! Let them first put things in order.
  • Thunderbringer
    Thunderbringer 19 July 2020 15: 33 New
    -6
    Well, the western partners have pulled up.
    As always, their opinion fully coincided with the opinion of Russian fighters against the regime.
    And of course, they all want us only the best.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 19 July 2020 16: 02 New
      -7
      Domestic fighters also voice the opinion of our Western friends. Who pays for a girl - he dances her.
  • 501Legion
    501Legion 19 July 2020 15: 38 New
    -3
    Idiots what's on the street what's in the media
  • NordUral
    NordUral 19 July 2020 15: 39 New
    11
    He and the gang are feverishly looking for a way out of the situation with Furgal. We must wait for the next pod.
  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 19 July 2020 15: 40 New
    12
    Yes, and you have prosecutors and law enforcement officials, this is a scrap of power to keep people in slavery. This is not even capitalism.

    We, too, have been hanging on the streets for 10 days already to remove the incredibly stupid Chief Prosecutor and the Premier. Our Government does not want to resign, because a slammer is waiting for them. But nothing, tomorrow no protests have been scheduled, but a siege of Parliament. Thieves will sit inside, peep and describe themselves.
    1. Thunderbringer
      Thunderbringer 19 July 2020 15: 57 New
      -11
      Take a trip to the USA.
      There you will be shown what "power scrap" is.
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 19 July 2020 16: 26 New
        11
        Take a trip to the USA.
        There you will be shown what "power scrap" is.


        1. Do not poke.
        2. I was in the USA. There I can enter the store and buy an AR15.
        3. The article is about feudal governments and authorities. And in my post - how we fight the oligarchy in power.
        1. IGOR GORDEEV
          IGOR GORDEEV 19 July 2020 17: 24 New
          -5
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          There I can enter the store and buy an AR15.

          And did this opportunity help the protesters?
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 19 July 2020 18: 16 New
            +5
            Did this opportunity help the strong protesters?


            Igor, have you read the Second Amendment? The entire Constitution is 27 pages. It won't take much time. So the Second Amendment was adopted and the use of weapons was constituted as a limitation of the power of the Federal Government. Then in 2008, the District of Columbia court ruled that the amendment limited not only the Federal government, but also the Shchatsk authorities.
    2. Sergey39
      Sergey39 19 July 2020 16: 25 New
      +1
      That is, you support the president and rightly so. And in our country, the support of the president is tantamount to keeping people in slavery?
      Good luck to you!
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 19 July 2020 16: 34 New
        10
        That is, you support the president and rightly so. And in our country, the support of the president is tantamount to keeping people in slavery?


        Greetings Sergey,

        Our President is a figure without power and meaning. The Premier has executive power. We’ll remove him. People do not have social slogans and desires - only the resignation of the Government, the Chief Prosecutor and the trial of the corrupt officials and thieves, which are the powerful politicians.

        Thanks for the wish!
        1. dauria
          dauria 20 July 2020 00: 03 New
          +1
          only the resignation of the Government, the Chief Prosecutor and the trial of corruption and thieves, which are powerful politicians.


          Khm ... There is something in it. Throw off old thieves, choose new thieves. But they will steal with caution and less. wink I didn’t understand one thing - what kind of power is this which can be changed by “hanging ten days on the street”? Who should "hang", how many people, how many days? Who pays for the "hang", who announces the start, who protects the "hangs" from the police and prosecution? Explain plainly, let's say thank you. No irony.
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 20 July 2020 08: 40 New
            0
            Hi Aleksey,

            Well, if I am happy to answer without irony.

            Throw off old thieves, choose new thieves. But they will steal with caution and less.


            Well, yes, there is. But this is a forward movement to reduce corruption. The Premier of Romania is hanging in the prison, the Premier of Slovakia is hanging in the prison. We must go to the normalization of the state and this does not happen in a moment. Gradually, politicians of a new generation appear who will not be limitless. These protests are part of this long road to normalization.

            I didn’t understand one thing - what kind of power is it that can be changed by "hanging on the street for ten days"?


            Well, if the people are furious with the government, resignation is the only thing that is possible for every government. If several hundred thousand people protest in Sofia and in the provinces too, then what should the authorities do? She has no useful moves - it is better to resign in order to save a little reputation and go to the polls with fewer negativity.

            Who pays for the hang, who announces the start, who protects the hangers from the police and prosecution?


            Nobody pays. We hate them for free :) The Serbs screwed up their Parliament for 5 days, the Greeks threw Molotov cocktails into theirs - such massive protests cannot be paid or organized. Yes, and 2 months of sitting at home also said its own thing and people are very nervous.

            Who protects against police and courts? I don't understand this - the police have no right to arrest you if you protest. No court in Bulgaria will judge you for protesting. In general, it is illegal to interrupt a protest if it is peaceful. And if you had a fight with the police, it’s clear there .... but the biggest thing that the court will give is hooliganism and that’s it. No one can even think about the deadlines. If the protester is condemned, then the whole country will pour out onto the street and those who have allowed such arbitrariness will go to jail.

            When the Government loses its shores, people just get mad and go out into the streets. And now I see on the street right, left, green, red, generally Winnie the Pooh and everything, everything, everyone who wants to normalize the political system, a prison for politicians, electronic voting, elections, and so on.

            Well, the protests and resignation of the Government is like a valve of the system - it does not allow it to explode completely. In the last 30 years, we have removed a lot of governments - probably 4-5, and it is important that managers know that people can always remove them and they will disappear from the political scene or may end up in a slammer.

            This is how everything works ...
            1. dauria
              dauria 20 July 2020 10: 43 New
              +2
              For 30 years, we have cleaned a lot of governments - probably 4-5, and it is important that the managers know that people can always remove them


              Well ? Thanks for the clarification. This does not suit Russia. At the level of the city, region - yes. But not the country. There is a law on the scale of "square-cubes" in technology. The cat can be thrown from the 5th floor, it will survive. The cow will break. And the whale will die even if it is simply dragged ashore. I really can't imagine how such feedback should work in China, USA, Russia. No offense - you just change the government of the NATO area, but not a sovereign country.
  • flicker
    flicker 19 July 2020 15: 48 New
    +2
    In general, Trutnev will be responsible to Putin for bedlam in Khabarovsk. For already 7 years he has been the plenipotentiary of the president of the Far Eastern Federal District, and the last government is also the deputy chairman of the government.
    Not to cope with the regions, will ruin his political career.
    But his political career, it seems, was not badly calculated. bully
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 19 July 2020 16: 26 New
      +5
      Quote: flicker
      In general, Trutnev will be responsible to Putin for bedlam in Khabarovsk.

      Likely.
  • Yves762
    Yves762 19 July 2020 15: 54 New
    -1
    Hmmmm .... what
    And those are not nady; and these do not nag -, "I think so".!.
  • Kibl
    Kibl 19 July 2020 15: 55 New
    -15
    Yes, Russians should pray for Putin, in Latvia we have leaders not only thieves but also dumbasses. You want to be ruled by you a la Navalny or Sable, well then CAPUT will definitely come to Russia!
    1. strelokmira
      strelokmira 19 July 2020 16: 04 New
      +5
      Yes, the Russians should pray for Putin, here in Latvia

      Well, let's see what's in Latvia, the minimum wage is 430 euros per month. Let's see what's in the Russian Federation, the minimum salary of 148.5 euros per month
      1. flicker
        flicker 19 July 2020 17: 16 New
        -10
        minimum wage 430 euros per month. Let's see what's in the Russian Federation, the minimum salary of 148.5 euros per month
        And utilities in Lithuania are such that until the whole family goes to the toilet, the water is not drained. laughing
        Moreover, in the bath they bathe in the same water, and only then they drain it, and the entrepreneurial ones flush the toilet.
        ---
        In general, those who now live in the former countries of the Union say that you "Russians are just mad about fat."
        And you with your euro.
        1. strelokmira
          strelokmira 19 July 2020 17: 50 New
          10
          And utilities in Lithuania are such that until the whole family goes to the toilet, the water is not drained.
          Moreover, in the bath they bathe in the same water, and only then they drain it, and the entrepreneurial ones flush the toilet

          Well, I'll google it)) And so in Moscow a cubic meter of cold in an apartment building 42,30 rubles, in Lithuania 0.63 euros or a whole 51,46 rubles by as much as 17.8% more, while the salary is more than 65.47% winked
          In general, those who now live in the former countries of the Union say that you "Russians are just mad about fat."

          Yes, I remember when I got up on the employment exchange and they gave me an allowance of 1500 rubles, I told a friend from Estonia about this, I didn’t believe that it could be, I thought I was kidding
          But as they say - We live in the most beautiful country in the world, and all other countries envy us
          1. flicker
            flicker 19 July 2020 17: 58 New
            -7
            in Moscow, a cubic meter of cold in an apartment building is 42,30 rubles, in Lithuania 0.63 euros or the whole 51,46 rubles, as much as 17.8% more, while the RFP is more than 65.47%
            You turn on your adding machine when the salary is more than 65,47%, you take water in Moscow, and your salary in the Russian Federation. Then take your salary in Moscow.

            minimum wage 430 euros per month. Let's see what's in the Russian Federation, the minimum salary of 148.5 euros per month
            1. strelokmira
              strelokmira 19 July 2020 18: 24 New
              +7
              You turn on your adding machine when the salary is more than 65,47%, you take water in Moscow, and your salary in the Russian Federation. Then take your salary in Moscow

              Does the minimum wage in Moscow differ from the minimum wage in the Russian Federation? )
              1. kot28.ru
                kot28.ru 20 July 2020 00: 03 New
                +2
                The average salary in Moscow is much higher than in the regions!
      2. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 22 July 2020 15: 49 New
        0
        have to die in hamburgers not in stupid euros
    2. Fungus
      Fungus 19 July 2020 16: 09 New
      -23
      The whole country supports Putin. So do not worry. These chizhiki on the Internet cackle all the time. In fact, the people will vote for the constitution and Putin again.
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 19 July 2020 16: 54 New
        21
        Quote: Fungus
        The whole country supports Putin.

        In Khabarovsk it is visible.
        1. Oden280
          Oden280 19 July 2020 19: 11 New
          -11
          The population of Khabarovsk is 616372 people (2020). 10000 people come out to protests. That is, these are the very 2% rot that come to light in every election.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 19 July 2020 19: 24 New
            -8
            There is such a Russian proverb: a small bug, but smelly.
      2. Tahtvjd2868
        Tahtvjd2868 19 July 2020 17: 17 New
        +8
        Well, for all, why should you ring a bell?
      3. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 19 July 2020 17: 49 New
        -11
        I voted not so much for the constitution as against such "revolutionaries".
    3. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 19 July 2020 16: 53 New
      14
      Quote: KIBL
      Yes, the Russians should pray for Putin, our leaders in Latvia are not only thieves but also dumb.

      And our thieves, but not stupid? Thank you very much.
    4. IGOR GORDEEV
      IGOR GORDEEV 19 July 2020 17: 25 New
      -3
      Quote: KIBL
      You want to be ruled a la Navalny or Sobol, well then Russia will definitely come KAPUT!

      it is what it is
  • Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
    Hydrography Bay Golden Horn 19 July 2020 15: 55 New
    +5
    Now, if Huber were arrested in Samara, the people would only be happy and would support Putin
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 19 July 2020 16: 07 New
    0
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Quote: Svarog
    Any action by Putin will now lead to a weakening of power.

    Do not expect! Not a single action by Putin has led to a weakening of power. It's just that Putin likes to pause. I hope we will soon see his attitude to this issue.

    Your words - yes to God! laughing
    Have you even critically revered your post when you wrote ?! bully
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 19 July 2020 16: 10 New
    +9
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    And only a few days ago, when participants began to ask questions, the first cautious articles appeared.

    Where are the protests? On YouTube there is an online broadcast from Lenin Square. There is now 22.46 on the square, not a soul. From 20.00 no one showed up. Q.E.D.

    I am very interested in the question, how many cm did the "ostriches" hammer their heads into the asphalt, so as not to see the obvious things ?! wassat There is an "action" - it is possible to discuss it, but to deny that it is - do not respect yourself !!! good
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 19 July 2020 16: 13 New
    +9
    Quote: The Truth
    The trolls began to stir, cackle ... How many pieces of silver are you selling to Russia?

    Yes, indeed, the question for you is - how much did you sell for? ))) There are events in the Russian Federation - you completely deny them ... There are two options - or you are not "friends" with your head - of which I personally doubt - with your head it’s all right with you - = or you work out the loot that received !!! lol
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 19 July 2020 16: 15 New
    +4
    “The Foolovites were on their knees and waited. They knew that they were rebelling, but they could not stand on their knees. Lord what did they not change their minds at this time! They think: they will now eat mustard - as if for the future tense they wouldn’t force any abomination; will not - no matter how Shelepov had to taste. It seemed that the knees in this case represent the middle path, which can pacify both sides. "

    M.E. Saltykov-Shchedrin laughing
    1. 5-9
      5-9 19 July 2020 17: 09 New
      -1
      I wanted something incomprehensible ... Or a constitution or sevryuzhina with horseradish or to deceive someone ...
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 19 July 2020 16: 17 New
    +9
    On the topic of the article - The authorities have "naughty" even their personal social services according to a public opinion poll, which is hovering somewhere in the sky ... and the fact that in some regions of the Russian Federation they hate her is like "a bolt from the blue" wassat

    Well, what prevented the special services from "monitoring" the situation - before "chopping off the shoulder"? recourse
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 19 July 2020 16: 59 New
      +9
      Well, what prevented the special services from "monitoring" the situation - before "chopping off the shoulder"?
      .... But it seems to me that the authorities just monitored the situation ... Only in a slightly different way ... Just now, a few months ago, Platoshkin on his Internet channel, expressed the idea that they say I’ll go to the presidency, some time has passed , the authorities found a reason and put Platoshkin in a “home casemate”, as an extremist, it is possible that Furgal, somewhere blurted something like that, informed, dug up the past, which was interesting for a long time, did not interest the past, did not shout at the governor’s elections that crime is eager to gain power and Furgal is already a murderer ... personally shooting competitors (apparently, the murdered said) ... And they also tied them in ... Why do we need a blacksmith, no, we don't need a blacksmith ...
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 19 July 2020 23: 20 New
        +3
        It is interesting that Platoshkin spoke out sharply negatively about Furgal many times.
    2. andrew42
      andrew42 27 July 2020 17: 14 New
      +2
      It seems that the operation "to wrap up Furgala fins" was not planned by the special services. They did not "lead" him seriously, so in a standby mode - no more than everyone else. And then they simply received a task from the interested parties for execution. So it turned out so clumsy. The customers were too arrogant and arrogant.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 19 July 2020 16: 18 New
    +7
    To restore order, the authorities have order in this, and to eliminate the mess, the authorities have a mess with this ... smile
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 19 July 2020 16: 19 New
    -18
    We have to collect fools on the square that two fingers .. laughing
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 19 July 2020 16: 22 New
    -17
    Who is interested in the gathering gathered by the assassin's accomplices? Respond.
    1. Tahtvjd2868
      Tahtvjd2868 19 July 2020 17: 22 New
      11
      And someone proved that he is a killer? Was the court already?
      1. Viktor Sergeev
        Viktor Sergeev 19 July 2020 18: 10 New
        -8
        Here the court will show. The question is just for the protesters: what did you guys come out with, what do you want to achieve? They will not prove that the murderer will return, they will prove to be imprisoned. Do they think that by going to the rally they will smear the alleged killer?
  • 5-9
    5-9 19 July 2020 17: 07 New
    -4
    I'm at the dacha, there is no TV ... What's in Khabarovsk? Did you even get 100 thousand? Do boutiques and stalls rob? Forcing Russians and policemen to kneel down? Are you still infected with the corona?
    If not, what are we talking about?
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 19 July 2020 17: 12 New
    +8
    Quote: parusnik
    Well, what prevented the special services from "monitoring" the situation - before "chopping off the shoulder"?
    .... But it seems to me that the authorities just monitored the situation ... Only in a slightly different way ... Just now, a few months ago, Platoshkin on his Internet channel, expressed the idea that they say I’ll go to the presidency, some time has passed , the authorities found a reason and put Platoshkin in a “home casemate”, as an extremist, it is possible that Furgal, somewhere blurted something like that, informed, dug up the past, which was interesting for a long time, did not interest the past, did not shout at the governor’s elections that crime is eager to gain power and Furgal is already a murderer ... personally shooting competitors (apparently, the murdered said) ... And they also tied them in ... Why do we need a blacksmith, no, we don't need a blacksmith ...

    Furgal - as far as I personally monitored the situation - got to the Governors according to the scheme "it happened" repeat
    Well, once I got there, I became a "people's governor" - I was forced to - because "status" good
    Against Putin, I personally did not even hear that he would be against, yes, the local bureaucratic people "fucked up" so that he would take care of the people - that is all his sins before the Power bully
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 19 July 2020 17: 51 New
      +4
      There is no smoke without fire ... Surely he said or thought something in a very narrow circle laughing not against the president, but like, what a fine fellow I am laughing Platoshkin, he, too, did not call for extremism ... So hotly he said that he was thinking about the presidency ... laughing
  • flicker
    flicker 19 July 2020 17: 24 New
    -11
    Furgal's arrest broke a very important GAME for someone. There is so much noise about the arrest of some governor. So much noise at one time around the arrest of Khodorkovsky.
    Personalities are different - the media effect is the same.
    ---
    It seems that Furgal was involved (very possibly in the dark) in some kind of anti-Russian GAME.
    Those who oversaw Governor Furgal now seem to want to see Furgal dead.
    Because he knows too much about the curators.
    ---
    Perhaps Furgal was supposed to "shoot" closer to 2024, but Furgal's arrest confused all the cards and launched the process ahead of time. bully
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 27 July 2020 17: 26 New
      +2
      A beautiful version, but difficult to the point. A good plot for a foreign political detective in the style of "The Da Vinci Code" - misunderstandings at the beginning, even more misunderstandings at the end. But this is all lyrics. Amurstal and racing around property shares where will you attach it? - This factor brings down all the clever imaginary constructions at once: Moscow oligarchs of the highest level of access to power squeeze the asset from the local under-oligarch who was not helped by the governor's status. That's all, there is nothing else here. And the people were simply freaked out from the insolence of the first - it was no longer a drop of slow poison in the soul of the people, but the spit of a camel in the whole face.
  • mag nit
    mag nit 19 July 2020 17: 57 New
    +4
    Putin is decided by the Putin lads.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 19 July 2020 17: 57 New
    14
    Quote: parusnik
    There is no smoke without fire ... Surely, something said or thought laughing not against the president, but like, what a fine fellow I am laughing Platoshkin, he, too, did not call for extremism ... So hotly he said that he was thinking about the presidency ... laughing

    I will briefly retell, for example, one of the videos from the meeting with Furgal on the topic of children's nutrition at school ... wassat
    Furgal: Why is it that in our region, schoolchildren only eat buns with tea instead of breakfast and lunch, although by law they must have adequate nutrition?
    Officials: Duc, there is no money in the budget, sir !!!
    Furgal: Then from today, until money appears in the budget, officials live on one salary - and your bonuses will go to schoolchildren for lunch tomorrow! good

    Act Men !!! I respect him for such actions !!! drinks
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 19 July 2020 20: 54 New
      0
      It seems that potential competitors are being eliminated. In advance. That would not have time to gain strength. Platoshkin is an extremist, Furgal is a murderer. "Coincidence? I don't think so" (c) smile
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 19 July 2020 23: 23 New
        +1
        Plvtoshkin has repeatedly called on law enforcement agencies to pay attention to Furgal. Platoshkin and Furgal hate each other.
    2. Victorio
      Victorio 19 July 2020 23: 10 New
      +4
      Quote: Crown without virus
      Furgal: Then from today, until the money appears in the budget, officials live on one salary - and your bonuses will go to schoolchildren for lunch from tomorrow !!! good

      Act Men !!! I respect him for such actions !!!

      ===
      well, and the mother of the murdered for metal, he will bear his prize
  • Drugov
    Drugov 19 July 2020 18: 19 New
    +7
    Only a court can plead guilty. The accomplice who testifies against him on HEARINGS is seriously ill and lives out his days. For fifteen years, the person held high administrative positions with admission to the secrets of the country and the wonderful security officials did not know anything? And what about the prosecutor Malinowski, who for almost ten years, for some reason, did not give a course to this case? Will Chaika, who covered and appointed this Malinovsky, be brought up? The amount of this concealment of UD will be in the public domain?
    People who can ask themselves these and similar questions come to the rally and want to know how it all happens from time to time, and a state with a naive face makes a helpless gesture. After all, the same daddy has been on Pynya since the time of his tumultuous activity in the team of Sobchak.
    And Platoshkina N.N. for what such calls to overthrow the government and change the constitutional system by forceful methods for homework were closed ????? This is what people want to know and when will it be the limit?
  • Alien From
    Alien From 19 July 2020 18: 32 New
    -2
    Not interested. This stuffing .......
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 19 July 2020 18: 49 New
    -1
    Eka ... the site is overwhelmed. Contagious third part all comments - got in touch.
    1. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 19 July 2020 21: 52 New
      -1
      And, you write, write ... The Internet is not paper, it will endure everything.
      And we will endure.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 19 July 2020 19: 05 New
    -1
    Here is constantly aching that we have the power of rotten rich people and so on, and what needs to be changed, and it seems like there are no questions on what and what system and suit. But everyone is whining and suffering and it is not clear what else is expected from this power. Although the example of October we have green vests in France here it is. Is it really so difficult to draw a placard and go out on Sunday to your mayor's office, stand for a long time, you can just silently, but most importantly from the heart. What won't they hear? They won't hear, repeat. But no, it's complicated.
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 19 July 2020 19: 25 New
    -5
    Putin faced the challenge of the West long ago. As Crimea returned, the sanctions war about began, which everyone here forgot or modestly silent ...
    Nobody here has said that social bombardment with sanctions has been carried out for 6 years already by the United States, so that people could be brought to suicide maidan.
    The further into the forest, the more firewood ... if the Khabarovsk residents do not stop cutting the branch on which their edge is held, the Naglo-Saxons will help to separate from the bad life in Russia and move into the life of the wonderful USA - Crazy States of America.
    Whether it will succeed or not is still a question, but Far Eastern Chechnya will be to the delight of the United States, Japan and NATO.
    1. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 19 July 2020 21: 49 New
      -3
      "Their men because of a drunken woman ...?" (from)
      Your everything, your ...
  • Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 19 July 2020 20: 30 New
    -3
    The President of Russia (Vladimir Putin) does not intervene, fearing that actions may have unpleasant consequences and weaken his power.

    You Putin has a plug in every barrel .. The prosecutor’s office will deal with the furgal, he’s not the “fish” for the president to discuss.
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 19 July 2020 23: 38 New
      0
      Governor Little Fish? well, well .. even though they thought about what they wrote? then who is not small?
    2. Roman123567
      Roman123567 20 July 2020 12: 19 New
      -1
      he is not a "fish" for the president to discuss.
      And who is the president discussing then ??)
      Without the king’s order, the prosecutor’s office will not open his mouth .. Kadyrov can openly threaten anyone with murder, and if the king approves, then everything can be done ..
    3. andrew42
      andrew42 27 July 2020 17: 31 New
      +1
      Yeah, and Khabarovsk is not the regional center of his state (hanging over the Chinese abyss), but a village with 3 grandmothers. It is obvious that Putin simply has nothing to say - his friends have broken the wood.
  • Local from the Volga
    Local from the Volga 19 July 2020 20: 41 New
    +5
    the Kremlin wanted to sneeze at all the protests in this town!
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 19 July 2020 21: 19 New
    -3
    Quote: parusnik
    It seems that potential competitors are being eliminated. In advance. That would not have time to gain strength. Platoshkin is an extremist, Furgal is a murderer. "Coincidence? I don't think so" (c) smile

    You just need to do it according to your mind - if even so laughing
    Power drove itself into a corner ... How is it seen from the outside? lol
    - They put on Putin's table no matter what evidence of Furgal's guilt - to which Putin replied "I don't believe !!!" am
    - Putin was pressed - and he allowed the FSB to arrest the Governor
    - Now the President (formally bully ) holds his fists for him and believes that he will be acquitted - because in any other case, FIRST, the President endures mistrust of the Governor, he is removed from office and only then they begin to press laughing
  • north 2
    north 2 19 July 2020 22: 04 New
    0
    Do not think that Furgal did not foresee a possible arrest and for the earlier did not prepare there from his gang
    those who call people to meetings to save the leader and the roof will protect themselves. Or rather, not only myself, how many schemes of corruption, nepotism, theft and crime in business. No one says that
    all this did not happen without the control of emissaries from Moscow or other regions, because Furgal
    can't be the top of that pyramid. This is not some kind of autonomous lone corrupt official, this is one
    case when not one boil grows on the body, but a whole ridge.
    In all parties, both the Liberal Democratic Party and the United Russia are full of brazen but adapted who are not killers, but the theft of forests, fish, oil, gas, mineral resources, etc. is guaranteed to be covered. And they know that it is possible to arrange a coup in the state. just need to explain to people that they are clean and silky and that they care about people, but Putin and the central government do not want this. It is necessary to prepare new managers in Russia from young statesmen as soon as possible, but for now people like Furgal need to be removed from all regions. A ray of governors would be appointed by the President from among those who do not belong to any party. On the other hand, looking it is hard to believe that when Furgal was a candidate for governor
    and when he was elected governor, that then already Putin did not know about the possible involvement of Furgal in the murders. Perhaps the roof of the Furgal sits even in a high office in the Kremlin or in special agencies. But these holes must be cleared now, before it is too late. And that Navalny that Furgal knows how
    Whether it is naive to bring the corrupt ones out into the street, the methods are the same ...
  • Victorio
    Victorio 19 July 2020 22: 19 New
    +1
    the meaning of the regular posting of such materials on?! breed the readership in the talking room. a kind of virtual liberal tusnu.
  • Igoresha
    Igoresha 19 July 2020 23: 13 New
    -2
    "Putin does not intervene, fearing a weakening of power
    Well, of course, even as he intervened and planted Furgala, because:
    1) the rating of F is higher than that of P., we look at the proof from Navalny, a telephone conversation about this between the plenipotentiary and F.
    2) a serious cut in the distribution of elephants to hangers-on at the state feeder (the notorious yacht, etc.), details:
    https://youtu.be/E8q3ytVK_i4
    3) and the cherry on top, the RotTenbergs are squeezing (bankrupt at the same time!) Amurstal from F. https://youtu.be/MbWkvaXDf8U
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 19 July 2020 23: 28 New
    -2
    The feeling is that this is some kind of multi-move directed against Trutnev, who is considered one of Putin's possible successors.
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 19 July 2020 23: 31 New
    +3
    Platoshkin, who is under house arrest, probably feels at least moral satisfaction that Furgal, who has been repeatedly criticized by him and accused of corruption and all sorts of fraud, is now in jail.
  • Marconi41
    Marconi41 20 July 2020 00: 02 New
    +1
    A thief should sit in jail! This is an axiom. Whatever the governor he was, but he is suspected under a serious article and while the court was not driving a wave there was nothing. There, the whole Far East must be turned over, and not only Khabarovsk.
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 20 July 2020 12: 21 New
      -1
      A thief should sit in jail! This is an axiom. Whatever president he is ..
  • paco.soto
    paco.soto 20 July 2020 01: 07 New
    -6
    Neutral opinion: I saw such information
    Rosgvardia has allocated more than 5 million rubles for medals for employees

    Rosgvardia signed a contract worth 5,7 million rubles for the purchase of medals for employees of the department. "MBH Media" found the relevant information on the public procurement portal.

    Most of the funds will be spent on the purchase of medals "For Distinction in Service" I, II and III degrees - a total of more than 46 thousand sets. The department also plans to purchase medals "For Merit in Strengthening Law and Order", "For Combat Commonwealth", "For Merit in Labor", "For Special Achievements in Education" and others.

    The contract was awarded to Igor Babich, an individual entrepreneur from Saratov. According to the SPARK-Interfax database, he regularly supplies medals and other insignia for government agencies. Last year, he signed contracts for 6 million rubles. Among the customers are the government of the Kaliningrad region, the administration of the governor of the Krasnoyarsk region and the administration of Chelyabinsk.

    https://mbk-news.appspot.com/news/medali-dlya-sotrudnikov/
    The most disgusting comment: Medal for the National Guard: "For a blow to a girl on the liver", "For two blows to a girl in the liver", "For three blows to a girl on a liver", "A full cavalier of blows to a darling in the liver". From probably "navalnists"
  • georggy
    georggy 20 July 2020 04: 32 New
    -4
    Does he have it? POWER.
  • pexotinec
    pexotinec 20 July 2020 04: 55 New
    0
    The Kremlin does not see any further than the Ural mountains. Corruption has taken over everything. Officials are not punished. Nobody controls the federal money coming to the regions. From Khabarovsk, the wave can go to the regions.
    1. Procopius Nesterov
      Procopius Nesterov 20 July 2020 06: 56 New
      +2
      So the official was punished and imprisoned, even more than for theft, for murder. And now the opposition, on the contrary, is demanding freedom for the official.
  • Alexey Lyzhin
    Alexey Lyzhin 20 July 2020 08: 13 New
    +3
    The large concentration of Western media outlets in Khabarovsk is a marker pointing to the beneficiaries of these protests. Western media do not cover what is disadvantageous to their owners.
  • Yan Yanin
    Yan Yanin 20 July 2020 08: 41 New
    +1
    The latest constitution is the fear of a tribunal in power!