MEP from Poland demanded to demolish a monument to Lenin in Germany

Polish MEP Elzbieta Kruk was outraged by the installation of a monument to Vladimir Lenin in the German city of Gelsenkirchen, demanding to demolish the monument and ban communist symbols, RT reports.

Kruk sent a demand to the European Commission, stating that the installation of the monument violates the 2019 resolution of the European Parliament, calling for a pan-European condemnation of Nazism, Stalinism and other crimes of "totalitarian regimes."

It is outrageous that Lenin, the first leader of Soviet Russia and a criminal, who, according to historians, is responsible for the deaths of up to six million people, is honored in seemingly democratic Germany, with whose assistance he came to Russia, and after him the revolution

- said the MEP from Poland.

The document states that "the communist regimes in total are responsible for the deaths of about 100 million people, which makes communism one of the bloodiest systems in stories humanity ".

In his inquiry, Kruk wonders if the MEPs think that communist symbols should be banned in the EU, and whether the EP will take any steps to demolish the Lenin monument in Germany. She also "expressed fears" that Germany is "returning to its totalitarian traditions."

On June 20, 2020, at the suggestion of the Marxist-Leninist Party of Germany (MLPD), a 2-meter monument to Vladimir Lenin was erected in the German city of Gelsenkirchen.

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[Cyril G ...]

I look at the Poles burns so that the glow is already visible in Vladik. By the way, the fact that the Poles are trying to bite the Germans is good.

[Cyril G ...]

Not the fact that a Polish girl, IMHO judging by the name, comes from Polish Western Ukrainians ... I even knew a couple of Krukov - Ukrainians.

[APASUS]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Not the fact that a Polish girl, IMHO judging by the name, comes from Polish Western Ukrainians ... I even knew a couple of Krukov - Ukrainians.

Polka, she is from nationalists. She is one of the founders of PiS, with the Kaczynski brothers

[Lopatov]

Quote: APASUS

Polka, she is from nationalists. She is one of the founders of PiS, with the Kaczynski brothers

Who cares who she is by nationality?
The main thing is that she does not have enough brains to understand that an active struggle against dissent is one of the main signs of totalitarianism.
And therefore, her requirements look quite inadequate.

It’s real as a quote tag

[APASUS]

Quote: Spade

The main thing is that she does not have enough brains to understand that an active struggle against dissent is one of the main signs of totalitarianism.
And therefore, her requirements look quite inadequate.

In my opinion, for the modern world it is quite adequate. In the USA, you can get a bullet for a dispute with the police and the policeman will always be right.
And in the territories of vassals, you can revive any regimes (up to fascist and terrorist, Syria and Ukraine) In the hands of the Americans, this is such a normal tool for rewriting history. It voices other people's thoughts for money, venality of politicians is nothing new.

[16329]

Interestingly, the Polish nationalists oppose the monument to Lenin, which actually contributed to the collapse of Russia and the creation of the Polish independent state in the 20th century

[Revolver]

I already in another branch proposed to put a monument to Suvorov in front of the Polish embassy.

[Sklendarka]

Yes, you know, apparently everything is wrong ... As I understand it, the Poles take an example, alas, from Russia, naturally with all the consequences ...

[Sling cutter]

The Germans erect a monument to Lenin, and we mask the mausoleum during the parades.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Stroporez

The Germans erect a monument to Lenin, and we mask the mausoleum during the parades.

Well, the Germans here respect. Remember not forgotten.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: tihonmarine

Well, the Germans here respect. Remember not forgotten.

Greetings, Kamrad! Lenin's teachings are very relevant today.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Stroporez

Greetings, Kamrad! Lenin's teachings are very relevant today.

I also welcome! The teachings of Marx, Engels, Lenin since 1848 were always relevant, now and in the future. Other teachings opposed to these do not yet exist.

[PSih2097]

Quote: tihonmarine

Teachings of Marx, Engels

well, did you even read them?
revelation from Marx:

“Regarding Poland, I read with great interest the essay of Elias Regno ... From this book it is clear that Lapinsky's dogma that the Great Russians are not Slavs is defended by Mr. Dukhinsky in the most serious way from the linguistic, historical, ethnographic, etc. points of view; claims that real Muscovites ... mostly Mongols or Finns, etc. ... From this book it is clear, in any case, that the case was very worried about the Petersburg cabinet (for it would decisively put an end to Pan-Slavism). All Russian scientists were encouraged to write answers and objections, but the latter turned out to be in fact infinitely weak.The argument about the purity of the Great Russian dialect and its closeness to Church Slavonic in these debates seemed to testify more in favor of the Polish concept than the Muscovite. During the last Polish uprising, Dukhinsky received a prize from the National Government for his "Discoveries" ... The conclusions to which Dukhinsky comes: the name Rus has been usurped by the Muscovites. They are not Slavs and generally not They belong to the Indo-Germanic race, they are illegally intruders, who need to be driven across the Dnieper again, etc. Pan-Slavism in the Russian sense is an invention of the cabinet.
I would like Dukhinsky to be right and that at least this view would prevail among the Slavs "
Marx — Engels, June 24, 1865

revelation from Engels:

"Pan-Slavism has now turned from a symbol of faith into a political program, with 800 bayonets at its disposal. It confronts Europe with an alternative: either the conquest of it by the Slavs, or the destruction of forever the center of its offensive force - Russia"
F. Engels - “Germany and Pan-Slavism” (1855)

from the same place (F. Engels - “Germany and Pan-Slavism”):

And if Bakunin, in the end, exclaims: “Verily, the Slav should not lose anything, but should win! Truly, he must live! And we will live. While at least the smallest part of our rights will be disputed, while at least a single member of our common organism remains separated or torn from us, until we fight to the end, until we fight mercilessly not for life but for death, until finally, Slavism will not become great, free and independent, ”if revolutionary pan-Slavism takes these words seriously and renounces revolution wherever it comes to fantastic Slavic nationality, then we will know what to do.
Then the struggle, the “merciless struggle not for life but death” with the Slavs betraying the revolution, the struggle for extermination and merciless terrorism - not in the interests of Germany, but in the interests of the revolution!

and if you look at all their literary activity, then in general ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: PSih2097

revelation from Marx:

We all have revelations, but the teaching is completely different.

[4ekist]

I didn’t read Marx and Engels’s "Manifesto of the Party" as nonsense.

[Looking for]

and you know how to read. "critic"?

[4ekist]

No I do not know how.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 4ekist

I didn’t read Marx and Engels’s "Manifesto of the Party" as nonsense.

If you write like that, you haven’t read it.

[Bang]

Exactly. Read more "Capital" by Karl Marx and compare with what is happening now, I assure you, no Nostradamus-Vanga was even lying around. :)

[16329]

Lenin spoke excellent German, lived for a long time in the German-speaking part of Switzerland, had relations with the German General Staff and in every possible way contributed to the conclusion of the Brest Peace in the interests of Germany and its allies
Lenin was a Marxist, Marxism was also of German origin.
Where else to put monuments to Lenin, if not in Germany

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 16329

Lenin was a Marxist, Marxism was also of German origin.

Christianity is also of Jewish origin. Well, do not confuse one with the other, as they say "God's gift with yayinnitsa".

[krillon]

Well, why be ashamed? The Provisional Government initiated an investigation, which found that not only was related to the General Staff, but also received funding. So the Germans reasonably erected a monument. I would not be surprised if a bust of Gorbachev was bungled for his merits in some place.

[Procopius Nesterov]

You have a short memory of communists, you demolished monuments to tsars, and one of the first was the decree on renaming. How many Russian churches were blown up? The Cathedral of Christ the Savior, built with public money in honor of the Victory over Napoleon, was demolished. Say thank you for not blowing up your mausoleum. Are there not enough Lenin monuments in the country for you?

[Vend]

Quote: Cyril G ...

I look at the Poles burns so that the glow is already visible in Vladik. By the way, the fact that the Poles are trying to bite the Germans is good.

It will be interesting to observe the reaction of Germany to this indication from Poland.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Wend

It will be interesting to observe the reaction of Germany to this indication from Poland.

Yes, Germany, it’s understandable, the question is how the EU will react. Created by the way, on the model and likeness of the USSR so hated by them.

[Aleksandre]

"The Steward of God of the Universe, who disposes!" (from)

[Trevis]

And I did not know that in Germany there is a monument to Lenin)

[Nasrat]

Quote: Trevis

And I did not know that in Germany there is a monument to Lenin)

Moreover, in the West of the country (formerly Germany) ...

[Trevis]

Quote: Nasr

Moreover, in the West of the country (formerly Germany) ...

Well at all!

[Uncle Izya]

Yes, the Poles excelled as always, the Pilsudski regime was also totalitarian

[fruit_cake]

Hitler at the funeral of his friend Pilsudski

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Nasr

Quote: Trevis
And I did not know that in Germany there is a monument to Lenin)


Moreover, in the West of the country (formerly Germany) ...

No, well, you can drink for it.

[Nasrat]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Quote: Nasr

Quote: Trevis
And I did not know that in Germany there is a monument to Lenin)


Moreover, in the West of the country (formerly Germany) ...

No, well, you can drink for it.

It was necessary to drink in 1982 - it was in this year that the Marxist-Leninist Party of Germany (MLPD) was formed. It is based on the theoretical legacy of Marx - Engels - Lenin - Stalin - Mao Zedong.

[Passer]

https://www.mlpd.de/russkii/2020/lienin-sieichas-v-gielzienkirkhienie-sieghodnia-my-podavali-iasnyi-sighnal-protiv-antikommunizma

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Trevis

But I didn’t know that in Germany there is a monument to Lenin

I now knew that in Finland there is a monument to Lenin, and the first time I heard about Germany.

[shubin]

Actually, the monument is fresh, it was only installed a month ago.

[nikon7717]

They wanted to demolish in one place, those Germans bought it and installed it. Immediately the noise of us.
A Polish girl screams that in the EU Resolution, responsibility for the death of 100 million, right? Interestingly, but they considered how many lives of people are responsible capitalism, democracy? All wars in the 20th century had economic reasons, redistribution of markets, and the conquest of cheap raw materials. Therefore, capitalism can be blamed in response to accusations. A colony, and slavery ..

[PavelM]

A Polish woman screams that in the EU Resolution, responsibility for the death of 100 million

Solzhenitsyn told them this. In secret!

[Glory1974]

I did not know that in Germany there is a monument to Lenin)

as it turns out, there are a lot of things in the West, about which we prefer not to talk.
For example, in France there are also several monuments to Lenin, there is a metro station "Stalingrad" and a street of the same name in Paris.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: glory1974

there is a metro station "Stalingrad" and a street of the same name in Paris.

In Paris there is also the Stalingrad square, the Stalingrad supermarket, the Stalingrad cinema, and a large Stalingrad pharmacy. At the same time, the Parisians know about the great victory of the Red Army at Stalingrad.

[mark2]

And mn5 here is interesting, about what 6 million Crook says? About those who died in gr. war? So the Poles had a hand in this. And if he worries about 6 million exactly Russian people, then it is not clear why.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: mark2

And if he worries about 6 million exactly Russian people, then it is not clear why.

The minds of the Poles cannot be understood, they can only be piled on, then they will understand.

[Cruel beaver]

and that is unlikely to be understood the first time, sir .....

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Angry Beaver

and that is unlikely to be understood the first time, sir.

And they get these mates periodically, so that they would not forget.

[Knell wardenheart]

Pile the monument and can))

[parusnik]

Monument, sincere ...

[Elephant]

Marxism-Leninism is the brainchild of Germany. Some Polish politicians somehow quickly forgot what the Germans are capable of ...

[Tank jacket]

Cool prankers Lexus and Vova played President Dudu ...
All Poles want to rewrite history and equate communism with fascism-Hitlerism ... But it doesn’t work. Munich agreement cannot be deleted from history ...

[tihonmarine]

The Polish MEP Elzbieta Kruk was indignant at the installation of a monument to Vladimir Lenin in the German city of Gelsenkirchen, demanding to demolish the monument and prohibit communist symbols

If V.I. Lenin and the October Revolution did not exist, Poland would still be the Warsaw and Vilna Province of the Russian Empire.

[Sergej1972]

Vilna province was not included in the province of the Kingdom of Poland.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sergej1972

Vilna province was not included in the province of the Kingdom of Poland.

Wherever it went, there was still the Russian Empire, as well as Poland.

[Cruel beaver]

it does not matter ...... the bottom line is that there would be no Poland as a state ....

[Andrey Krasnoyarsky]

Who would have told this Crook that it was not Germany that was returning to totalitarian traditions, but the European MP herself said goodbye to common sense. Although was he with her?

[DeKo]

Well then, let them put up a monument to the UPA. And a couple of photos of Volhynia

[rocket757]

And try to count how many victims on all sorts of "enlightened dermocracies" !!!
I would like to believe that nobody will pay attention to yapping / E / that, but ... we'll see. They have different, incomprehensible businesses there, now there are many and more!

[rotmistr60]

The behavior of Polish European deputies is not much different from the Ukrainian ones in PACE - requirements, claims, shrillness, and most importantly feigned exclusivity and significance. And, that is characteristic, from a strain there will not be enough condrat.

[Roman123567]

It doesn’t fit into my head how sick people are who accuse Lenin / Stalin / of the communist period of some crimes ..
To cherish that little good that was in this world .. no words ..

Lenin, the first leader of Soviet Russia and a criminal who, according to historians, is responsible for the death of up to six million people

And after all, they really believe in it ..

[AU Ivanov.]

And what were they, the crimes of the Bolsheviks? Read documentary, enlighten - hair stand on end. But monuments cannot be demolished. None. Even burry.

[Looking for]

Believe me. She herself does not believe in it. But her goal is to make millions of others believe it.

[TAMBU]

180 billion living beings in the universe ... as estimated by "historians"

[Ros 56]

And what, Kashchenko's clients are also MEPs? I wonder how, but I don’t know.

[Dmitry Nikolaevich Fedunov]

Every time I read this and every time I regret that I.V. Stalin made a mistake, territorially "cutting off" East Germany in favor of the Poles (and in favor of the Czech "brothers", which is already there) .

[paul3390]

Interestingly, how many millions have capitalism ditched? Or say Europeans in general? IMHO - there will be significantly more even imaginary wild numbers like victims of socialism ..

[Kostadinov]

Lenin is the father of a modern independent Polish state. He deserved a 20 meter high monument in the center of Warsaw.
Stalin is the savior and benefactor of the Polish state, but his Palace of Culture is still standing.

[Bang]

Quote: Stroporez

The Germans erect a monument to Lenin, and we mask the mausoleum during the parades.

Here, right to the point, they noticed. Respect.

[16329]

The creepy Masonic pyramid under the walls of the ancient Kremlin and its golden-domed cathedrals

[lis-ik]

This is strange. To put it mildly. If not for Lenin, then Poland would have been a colony of Russia.

[akarfoxhound]

After the speech in the EP, the deputy had hysteria, convulsions, nooc, sudden death ...

[tralflot1832]

The question is where is the monument to V.I. Lenin. If in a private territory, then the European Parliament together with the Polish: Forest and only forest!

[Uncle Izya]

Germany already supplies Poland with money, history loves to repeat itself and the Poles will be reminded of everything will recall the vindictive Fritz

[Shuttle]

We must end this dichotomy of Stalinism-anti-Stalinism. Stalin - the story. It is necessary to study it, and not to fight it. And Ulyanov-Lenin too. And not only ours, but also the world. Hands off history, panov!

[iouris]

Lenin was waiting for a revolution in Germany, i.e. world revolution. Lenin did not say anything about Poland.

[Constanty]

Unfortunately, Russophobia killed the ability of many Polish politicians to think. I am a Pole and now I am ashamed again. This lady has become famous for drunkenness in the Polish parliament, and now she discredits us in the international arena. Fighting monuments is stupid, and although Lenin is not an idol, to put it mildly, we would have destroyed most of the monuments (including the Arc de Triomphe, also represented by the winners in the conquered territory)

[iouris]

Quote: Constanty

I am Pole and now I am ashamed again

Why are you ashamed? Everyone is responsible for themselves. In general, this should be treated more calmly, especially if God did not give horns to a vigorous cow.

[Constanty]

Theoretically, you are right - Everyone is responsible for himself - but the deputy not only speaks for himself - he is also a showcase of his country - in my opinion, a poor showcase. And that is why I am ashamed - and I am also angry, because the statements of this lady are neither wise nor representative of all Poles.
Unfortunately, the desire to please her electoral group harms our relations with Russia and, therefore, the interests of my homeland.

[Catfish]

No, well, is this normal, or where? Indicate to any independent country which monuments to erect and which to demolish. Here involuntarily the question arises of the sanity of Polish statesmen like this one. Degree rolls over!
They would look at themselves ...

[pepel]

Poland, having become Uncle Sam's favorite whore, is bustling by leaps and bounds. Soon European politicians will go to Poland for the "label" on the board.

[iouris]

Poland is different (like any other country, in particular, the Russian Federation). It is not yet known where there are more Russophobes and "Uncle Sam's whores".

[75 Sergey]

The Poles tell the Germans what to do?
This is when the tail started wagging the dog ?!

[Metallurg_2]

There are a lot of Polish plumbers in Germany. These are hidden agents of the Polish intelligence services. If Germany persists, at the appointed time all the funnel pipes in the houses of the Germans will be clogged and shit will flow through the streets.

[Revolver]

And what is her dog business? Not its jurisdiction, and therefore not its competence.

[Metallurg_2]

It is strange to hear this from a representative of a country that owes its existence to Lenin ...

[iouris]

Poland is not obliged to Lenin (if you are talking about the restoration of Polish statehood). Poland owes France and England and a little bit to the inability of the Russian statehood to maintain the status quo in Europe for a long time. Ukraine really emerged thanks to the Brest Peace. This is an old Habsburg project that was implemented by the Germans.

[Metallurg_2]

and a little bit of the inability of Russian statehood for a long time to maintain the status quo in Europe

Well, that is, all the same, to the same Lenin.

[varela]

Psya krev ...

[Procopius Nesterov]

Poles should be grateful to Lenin.
This is what he writes in 1914, after the start of the war with Germany, as a true Vlasovite.
6) The task of the social democracy in Russia is especially, and first of all, a merciless and unconditional struggle against Great Russian and tsarist-monarchist chauvinism and its sophistic defense by Russian liberals, Cadets, part of the populists and other bourgeois parties. From the point of view of the working class and the working masses of all the peoples of Russia, the least evil would be the defeat of the tsarist monarchy and its troops, oppressing Poland, Ukraine and a number of peoples of Russia and inciting national enmity in order to increase the oppression of the Great Russians over other nationalities and to strengthen the reactionary and barbaric government of the tsarist monarchy.