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Furgal as a new unit of measure for Russian reality

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So, it seems to me, it's time to introduce a new unit of measurement - Furgal. A certain indicator of a person’s usefulness at a post in relation to how a person treats a person.


To Furgal, the former (I hope temporarily) governor of the Khabarovsk Territory, the federal government is obviously very negative. This is evident even from the way the head of the LDPR Zhirinovsky “fought” for his subordinate. Apart from a couple of air shocks - nothing. But when people came to the defense of their governor, the head of the LDPR quickly rushed to make excuses that the party had nothing to do with the rallies.

Of course it’s right. For such things and a membership card, you can put it on the table. In our case - the certificate of the State Duma deputy. And goodbye, a well-fed and relaxed life ... There is something to worry about.

Why did it all turn out that way?

Having carefully examined what they write on Far Eastern forums (well, don't watch TV, after all?), I understood one thing: the whole fuss due to the fact that Bumblebee Furgal rebelled against honey. The bees were worried. It was why.

The main problem of Furgal is that he began to work. And to work not in the way that is generally accepted among officials in general and governors in particular. He encroached on the most sacred that the official has: his comfortable work.

Here, in the list that I will give further, lies the answer to why Moscow so hastily decided to remove, punish, and imprison, and the Khabarovsk residents went to the streets.

Moreover, it is not authorized, without any incitement from the same Dark Lord N and cookies from any European human rights organizations. Took and went out. And they will come out again and again.

In order to answer this question, you just need to familiarize yourself with what Governor Furgal managed to do in two years:

- I cut twice the supplements to the pensions of regional officials and deputies, the chairman of the regional Duma and ... the governor. That is, to yourself. This is only 9 million rubles that Furgal promised to send for social services. 9 million. Nevertheless;

- reduced salary ... to the governor! That is, again to myself. Twice. From 800 to 400 thousand;

- forbade members of the regional government to purchase tickets on business class business trips - only economy. An exception was made for the first three deputies;

- made a major change to the regional housing program for young families. The region paid 35% for housing for young families. There was a queue, since all young people need housing. Who did not have time to get a benefit until 36 years old, just flew like plywood over Khabarovsk. The wagon removed this restriction;

- canceled the double menu for schoolchildren. That is, it used to be like this in schools: ordinary people have one menu (richer), beneficiaries (from the same large families) are pretty modest. Now the menu is one at all.

An interesting case occurred here. In Komsomolsk-on-Amur, local officials rebelled. Well, there is no way to find as much as 5,5 million rubles for lunches for schoolchildren. Not a rubber budget in the city!

At the next meeting, Furgal asked where the city had taken 24 million to support the officials themselves. In 2018, the maintenance of the device cost 510 million rubles, and in 2019 - already 534 million.

Great, right? Officials found 24 million for themselves somewhere, but 5,5 for children could not.

Such a beautiful picture of modern power. At 60 wagons pulls, if so.


Moving on:

- Launched a program for all residents of the Far North and equated to them, 4 flights a year for discounted tickets: 3 thousand for a child, 4,5 for an adult. Paying, of course, from the regional budget;

- ordered the cancellation of the results of suspicious public procurement auctions in the total amount of 150 million rubles;

- conducted a reduction in the apparatus of the regional government, which in terms of savings yielded about 600 million rubles a year. Reduced 4 regional ministries from 20;

- the prosecutor’s office very much made me think about what to do with construction companies that deceive equity holders;

- issued over 2 years 580 apartments for orphans. Who does not understand: a person from an orphanage, entering a mature life, has the right to housing from the state. And the regional state is obliged to provide him this housing. At my own expense. I don’t know how much the most shameful “odnushka” costs in Khabarovsk, but it costs money;

- put up for sale (so far, however, no buyer was found) the yacht Victoria, which was on the balance sheet of the regional administration. Only the maintenance of this vessel cost the treasury 600 thousand rubles a year. Probably not for sale, but the initiative is good;

- revised quotas for fishing, logging and export of forests.

In general, as I understand it, scrolling through the repair of bridges, the construction of oil refineries, the repair of schools and kindergartens, and the payment of debts to the budget (they reduced the debt of the region by 2 billion rubles over the past year), it becomes completely unclear how this could have happened. In theory, it was not the investigators who needed to be hired, but the killer.


The situation is very unsightly: a governor working for the people! Not only does he do, he does more than he promised! And he is not United Russia, he is from the side.

And, by the way, the test for “amend the Constitution” in the Khabarovsk Territory clearly also failed. 44% turnout, 62% “for” amendments. Not good. Ugly. It was said by ourselves that 70%.

And it turns out that somehow, on the other side of the country, a decent person appeared in power, who, moreover, didn’t steal like that, but also didn’t give others! Moreover, complicates the life of officials in full!

In general, the situation is not simple. Creates tension and doubt at the same time.

And at such a time, unexpectedly, probably even by accident, the former business partner of Sergei Furgal, Nikolai Mistryukov, accused of murder, makes a deal with the investigation and reports about the terrible crimes of the Khabarovsk governor 15 years ago.

And now, both former partners are sitting in Lefortovo. How - at the end of the article I will give a link to an interview conducted by members of the PMC (Public Monitoring Commission, whose functions include monitoring the places of detention) both from Furgal and from Mistryukov.

Perhaps the employees of the PMC were somewhat biased towards Mistryukov, but I also do not really believe in his sudden insight and recognition. Apparently, they do not believe in Khabarovsk, because they continue to take to the streets. Violating, by the way, the law.

It all somehow happened in a timely fashion: Mystryukov “remembered”, and our investigation worked so quickly ... Although it is already surprising how quickly it (the investigation) and without particularly bothering to check, grabbed Furgal. Indeed, how not to believe the former companion ... who faces a strong sentence of such murder?

It's an old song, but since our bodies promised to knock down / weaken, you know - and you’ll write something else. Especially if everything is really as Mystryukov says in an interview. But still face to face ...

But we are talking about Khabarovsk.

I drew attention to the numerous videos from there that not everything is good in the city. People take to the streets, people speak in support of their Furgal. People applaud and chant “Thank you!” When police officers pull out provocateurs from the crowd.

But there are provocateurs.



These are the real provocateurs who shout “Putin is a thief!” - here they are for a reason. Here they should not just be displayed, but interrogated. With an addiction. Because everything that happens can be written down and served to whom it is necessary (yes, Putin) under the proper sauce.

And this dish is unlikely to appeal to the Khabarovsk residents.

What is happening causes a dual sensation. The rapid landing of Furgal, the arrests of five disabled pensioners, "who were preparing the seizure of power in Omsk" (Kvachkov found followers), all this causes some misunderstanding of the situation.

That’s how the boat is rocking. Not by criticizing the government, which has anything to criticize, not by criticizing Putin, who has something to present. It is these hasty and incomprehensible arrests that are rocking the Russian barge.

What was taken from the residents of the Khabarovsk Territory? They took away the prospect that Furgal gave them. I believe that in the place of the governor there may be a person who will work for the people, and not for his own pocket.

Such a man was found. Thank God, in our country this is a Red Book beast, but not disappearing yet. And such a result ...

Having read a lot of reviews on social networks from Khabarovsk citizens, I understand that I would like to have my Furgal in Voronezh. Honestly and frankly - yes, I would like to. And I’m not sure that he is a killer, as they try to present it. Rather, I believe that he is really objectionable. And not even Putin, not even the Kremlin. His local.

I am for Sergey Furgal. Until he confessed to the murder - unconditionally “for”, because deeds speak better of words about a person. And I fully support the Khabarovsk residents in their desire to fight for their governor.

The position of many media is very strange. They show as if there a bunch of renegades stirs up water. Well, as usual. Meanwhile, the people are really against the "cleaning" of Furgal.

Furgal as a new unit of measure for Russian reality

But news agencies show this as the intrigues of the Dark Lord Ny, nothing more.

In vain.

The situation is not very beautiful. And it can grow into something more. I am pleased to see how the police politely and correctly perform their duties, I am pleased to understand that no one rushed to fulfill the requirements of the envoy of President Trutnev, who urgently flew to Khabarovsk. In the sense - to disperse.

First, the investigation is simply obliged to bring charges, evidence, etc. Because while the picture is not very attractive. Ugly.

“If the court and the president of the Russian Federation decide that Sergei Ivanovich Furgal will no longer work as governor, then, accordingly, there will be elections ...”

(Yuri Trutnev, Presidential Plenipotentiary.)

And here he is, the choice of the people. On the streets. Chanting, honking. Waiting. In their "small" rallies.






Putin is obliged to intervene and to deal with the situation. He, like no one else in Russia, is interested in this.

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  1. Civil
    Civil 16 July 2020 15: 08 New
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    The author, hold on, now unsuitable propagandists will come and show you how to stand up for 30 thousand Khabarovsk “corrupt bulk” and agents of the State Department. lol
    1. veritas
      veritas 16 July 2020 15: 17 New
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      The man of the word in Russia has always evoked respect. The wagon was the man of his word, for the first time in modern history, people felt that their candidate had come and was immediately arrested.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 16 July 2020 15: 32 New
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        man of what? let's do an experiment? he reduced staff and removed someone who stood in their place? let's check each one by name) he reduced administration costs. OK. promised to reduce the debt of the region. how much did it shrink?
        1. Virus-free crown
          Virus-free crown 16 July 2020 16: 07 New
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          Quote: carstorm 11
          man of what? let's do an experiment? he reduced staff and removed someone who stood in their place? let's check each one by name) he reduced administration costs. OK. promised to reduce the debt of the region. how much did it shrink?

          If I am not mistaken, this is the third article on Furgal, in the comments to which I have already "smeared you with a thin layer on bread like butter" hi But you are again in a joke about a hunter who loves when his bear loves ?! bully repeat
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 16 July 2020 16: 18 New
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            what have you done?))) and let’s publish your victories for everyone?) exclude only babble and I’m ready to continue with you)))) you don’t exaggerate yourself too much?) what did you smear me about there?))) I suggested all quite objective opportunities to check what I say)
            1. Virus-free crown
              Virus-free crown 16 July 2020 16: 24 New
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              Quote: carstorm 11
              what have you done?))) and let’s publish your victories for everyone?) exclude only babble and I’m ready to continue with you)))) you don’t exaggerate yourself too much?) what did you smear me about there?))) I suggested all quite objective opportunities to check what I say)

              All your arguments about Furgal "=" smeared you with a thin layer on bread like butter " hi
              And he gave you valuable (crossed out) - invaluable advice - that you would rush at the feet of the Forum Administration, that it would lose all your posts in which you claim to know but were silent about the killings of people bully
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                1. Virus-free crown
                  Virus-free crown 16 July 2020 16: 29 New
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                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  you are sick of what.) my posts are all in place)

                  Then a brief retelling of the Criminal Code - "Not knowing the laws will NOT relieve you of responsibility" bully You - if you prove Furgal's guilt - an accomplice - for you knew, but said nothing hi
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                      1. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 16 July 2020 16: 56 New
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                        please) you will still smear about what I did not know?)
                      2. Virus-free crown
                        Virus-free crown 16 July 2020 17: 06 New
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                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        please) you will still smear about what I did not know?)

                        "smudge" laughing
                        If you have in your hands irrefutable evidence of Furgal's involvement in the killings and DO NOT bring this information to the prosecutor's office - this is an article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation on concealing a crime ...

                        If you DO NOT have in your hand irrefutable evidence of Furgal's involvement in the killings, then this is another article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation on defamation

                        Which of the two "chairs" listed above is more convenient for you to sit on ?! bully
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                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 16 July 2020 17: 03 New
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                      I kind of talked about a specific person. what does Kadyrov have to do with it? let's put him in prison. Do you personally go to Chechnya to resolve issues? maybe you will provide peace there?
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                  3. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 16 July 2020 17: 10 New
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                    another balabol) for this reason on DV you can’t) blah blah blah
                    walk in the forest.
    2. Fitter65
      Fitter65 16 July 2020 17: 01 New
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      Quote: carstorm 11
      man of what? let's do an experiment? he reduced staff and removed someone who stood in their place? let's check each one by name)

      So what prevents you from taking and checking? Once you are tormented by vague doubts, so go on to rusty mines. Information is available, type in the search engine, you will see everything, and you can by name and how much the debt of our region has decreased. What are you doing here whirlpool sitting in a puddle. Or is it your business to crow, and at least do not dawn there? Just not everywhere we have "crowing" respected, the Far East, not Europe ...
    3. Far East
      Far East 17 July 2020 11: 02 New
      +3
      me, just wondering whose you will be! for whom are you "drowning" you against the PEOPLE !? so say your name. go out and tell me, I'm for the corrupt. or you were in a share with the Ishaev spur. you Furgal took a "piece of cake"! balabol!
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 17 July 2020 19: 55 New
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        Hold on to Khabarovsk, after Lomakin’s reign in the USSR, only Nazdrat was sane, he stole - yes, but the interests of the land are bullied. Our attempt to roll the bucket failed ... the leather jackets were imposed. As Ishaev and the Pushkarevs had a rest in the reserve ... I saw, and they were preparing a restless place for a restless person ...
        The Varangians, and indeed the local uniters, were really tired, because their goal was to plunder local resources ... There was a governor with the phrase: "we live here." He dumped it for a long time, but we don’t live here, we just survive ... And yes, everything is cool now: there is a cool swimmer Kozhemyak, and Vladivostok is the "capital of the Far East."
        Yes, we have a lot of things built for the Summit, we can list, but this is what they should have done earlier.
        1. Far East
          Far East 18 July 2020 01: 38 New
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          thank you so much! for supporting Khabarovchan.da, read about your officials. just tired of looking at the lawlessness of those in power! hi I hope everything will be fine in the Far East.
    4. businessv
      businessv 17 July 2020 20: 32 New
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      Quote: carstorm 11
      promised to reduce the debt of the region. how much did it shrink?
      You are inattentive, colleague! The debt of the region has reduced by 2 billion rubles compared to last year. Read, then write! hi
  2. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 16 July 2020 15: 32 New
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    Quote: veritas
    The man of the word in Russia has always evoked respect. The wagon was the man of his word, for the first time in modern history, people felt that their candidate had come and was immediately arrested.

    My colleague, that’s not the question, the question is that the authorities have attacked themselves, showing who has been ruling the country for 20 years.
    And if from all this shit the wagon is the best for the people, then who then sits up?
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      1. andrew42
        andrew42 16 July 2020 16: 30 New
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        Golovan, and tell us the Negative facts about Furgal. It is the facts. I even agree to link episodes to Furgal as a high-likly type. Before you slander the Stroporez, prove that he did not yap. And then it turns out interesting: what exactly did the Furgal do you do not know, but did something, you know for sure! Facts to the studio! Episodes, motives, benefits! Furgal is not familiar to me, from the word at all. So Khabarovsk knows better who is the lesser evil: Arrested Furgal or EP-ovsky lizas on complementary feeding.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 16 July 2020 17: 04 New
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          Quote: andrew42
          andrew42 (Andrey


          Kamrad! Thanks for the support! drinks
          I hope that this troll is no longer worthy of our attention good Well honestly, he’s not worth it yes
          Shake hands! soldier
          1. andrew42
            andrew42 16 July 2020 17: 19 New
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            Mutually shake my hand. I just hate the insolent, regardless of political beliefs.
            1. Dangerous
              Dangerous 16 July 2020 18: 11 New
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              Well, entot jack behaves the same way in most comments - facts / last names / dates and so on. Once, one forum member answered him completely, all questions, with numbers and specific data. In the end, just merged. How it merged even now, when he was asked to give specifics
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 16 July 2020 18: 52 New
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                Quote: Dangerous
                Once, one forum member answered him completely, all questions, with numbers and specific data. In the end, just merged

                Link to the studio. Or, too - yap.
                1. Dangerous
                  Dangerous 16 July 2020 23: 56 New
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                  https://topwar.ru/168582-jepoha-peremen-kak-mir-stalkivajut-v-novoe-srednevekove.html#comment-id-10211288
                  Here is this article. As you didn’t get puffed up with your beloved and monotonous method of “citing facts”, your opponent simply trampled you into a puddle, and you had nothing to object to. You hope that people will be lazy to write here, look for numbers, and some will not be lazy. But in vain they do it, there is nothing to justify before the troll
              2. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 16 July 2020 19: 03 New
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                Quote: Dangerous
                Well, entot jack in most komentov behaves like that -

                Gee-gee laughing The entot character “scored” to “our Comrade”, so the space maps are “tucked” into tablets laughing , it’s already the turn to meet nature yes Khe-x, as the Vital-malacholite grit good doesn't ride mr
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 16 July 2020 19: 09 New
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                  Quote: Stroporez
                  it’s already the turn to meet nature

                  More from now on, baby ...
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          1. snake
            snake 16 July 2020 19: 19 New
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            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Bread cutter - yap by definition, sorry

            Incidentally, I received a distortion of your nickname before. How about this, Golovan?
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 16 July 2020 19: 23 New
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              Quote: serpent
              How about this, Golovan?

              Norm "Stroporez" - the same landing as I am a ballerina.

              I’m a very bad ballerina, if ...
              1. snake
                snake 16 July 2020 19: 32 New
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                It is not a question of who is the landing party, but of rudeness.
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                I’m a very bad ballerina, if ...

                I doubt it ... You’re such a fortress and freaks soaking that you are given a marvel ...)))
              2. businessv
                businessv 17 July 2020 20: 51 New
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                Quote: Golovan Jack
                I’m a very bad ballerina, if ...

                This is estimated by our jury is very noticeable!
          2. andrew42
            andrew42 16 July 2020 19: 30 New
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            Is there anything to translate into English? - Know this all ..
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 16 July 2020 17: 11 New
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        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Do you know anything about the facts about this wagon, where you are trying to catch glasses right now? Say that you really know ... chatter is not interesting

        Dear men, why are you watering and blaming each other with “good” words. As for Furgal, until the court makes a decision, all of our conclusions will give nothing but a concussion. They will make a decision, then we can discuss it. Even people living in Khabarovsk cannot know everything that the accused did or did not do, and we all live thousands of kilometers and even more so. So far, all our speculation is just an OBS.
    2. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 16 July 2020 16: 54 New
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      everything was just before Furgal was an absolutely unpopular governor, which actually led to the election of Furgal, and he, thanks to let's honestly populist decisions, raised his rating .. I personally came across information that, having earned a rating, he very much sagged the region’s investment attractiveness for 2 years .. True or not, unknown
      1. Dante
        Dante Alighieri 17 July 2020 07: 43 New
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        I wonder why people are "warmer" from investment attractiveness, the exhaust from which will settle in offshore, or even from even populist actions? By the way, you apparently do not quite understand the word populism. This is not only the distribution of empty promises, but also the indulgence of the masses, the fulfillment of their requirements. And if the people require a unified approach to the nutrition of schoolchildren and the governor does this, even stingy with investment attractiveness, this will also be populism. Here in Altai, the governor, on the contrary, is happy for investors, soon the last green shreds in the city will be filled up with all sorts of Radissons and other hotels, but nothing has been done for the people. And choosing between the economist Tomenko and populist Furgal, for some reason I want to make a choice in favor of the latter.
        1. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 17 July 2020 17: 47 New
          +1
          Do you need new plants and factories? Is the business ready to invest, provided that the administration meets and offers good working conditions .. if there are no conditions, then they will invest in other regions .. About "I want to make" .. so populist decisions that’s why the populist ones welcomed you. And all sorts of “hotels” contain employees and pay taxes, not to mention the fact that more tourists come who are willing to invest in vacation .. always look a little further than your nose
          1. volodimer
            volodimer 17 July 2020 20: 18 New
            +1
            You, frankly, a romantic ... what
            new plants and factories
            as indicated Kirill all this investment is the construction of hotels and shopping centers, And, as a result, this is the development of free green zones. About tourists ... well, you just don’t need to ... Just look further than the nose of such "entrepreneurs"
            1. Boris Chernikov
              Boris Chernikov 17 July 2020 23: 38 New
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              lol, so go to the villages in the remote taiga, there you have green areas even through the anus, eat, there’s no work and the villages die, so all the cries about "no green areas" .. and what's the point in them if there is no work and no taxes ? If you do not need money from tourism, this does not mean that this money is not needed by the budget and working in the tourism sector .. It's just that you don’t need anything from the sofa)
              1. Dante
                Dante Alighieri 18 July 2020 15: 59 New
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                Dear Boris or Boris, Barnaul is like a once-not-so-tourist city, in the recent Soviet past it was even an average, but still an industrial center. Here, high-temperature boilers for thermal power plants, tires for cars, engines, textiles, some radio equipment for the defense industry, cartridges for it were produced and still in some volumes are being produced, rolling stock repairs are being carried out. The main tourist sites of the region are located in other areas, mainly located closer to the border with the Altai Republic. The appropriateness of deploying a 4 or even 5 star hotel here is more than dubious, and it is unlikely that it will create much more jobs than the aforementioned factories during their heyday.
                1. Boris Chernikov
                  Boris Chernikov 28 July 2020 13: 20 New
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                  it always touches when Kirill or Kirill or similar "experts" start shouting about "why do we need to build or open something! After all, we have a plant!" .. Well, yes, 0,6 million people and why do you need a hotel? rent a bug for 500 rubles / night ... if you don't understand a little about the economy, then it's better to keep quiet, otherwise you go for a fool, and not for a smart one
      2. businessv
        businessv 17 July 2020 20: 53 New
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        Quote: Boris Chernikov
        and he has already raised his rating by honestly populist decisions.
        Then for what FIG he was able to save 2 lard rubles of the regional budget ?! Due to the "populist decisions", I suppose, yes, due to the repair of roads. A good article, before it I didn’t even know about why Furgal was packed. Now at least some clarity has been introduced.
        1. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 17 July 2020 23: 39 New
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          yeah, and also issued 11 loans for 11 lard rubles ... but shhh, secret
          1. businessv
            businessv 18 July 2020 22: 02 New
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            Quote: Boris Chernikov
            yeah, and also issued 11 loans for 11 lard rubles ... but shhh, secret
            Information from 11 banks from which these loans were obtained, I believe.
            1. Boris Chernikov
              Boris Chernikov 28 July 2020 13: 23 New
              -1
              have you banned the search engine?)
              1. businessv
                businessv 28 July 2020 17: 16 New
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                Quote: Boris Chernikov
                have you banned the search engine?)

                Do you seriously believe that information about banking operations should be publicly available? My previous post is ironic and trust information from the network less, it needs to be filtered and carefully!
                1. Boris Chernikov
                  Boris Chernikov 29 July 2020 20: 57 New
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                  on the Aftershock website there is information about the growth of the region's debt by 6 lard for June 2020 compared to last year, this is, as it were, not classified information, but, on the contrary, open
                  1. businessv
                    businessv 29 July 2020 22: 18 New
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                    Quote: Boris Chernikov
                    on the Aftershock website there is information about the growth of the region's debt by 6 lard for June 2020

                    Are you trying to blur the meaning of our conversation?
                    yeah, and also issued 11 loans for 11 lard rubles ... but shhh, secret
                    Here is your post to which I reacted. If you have nothing more to write, you better not write! hi
                  2. Boris Chernikov
                    Boris Chernikov 29 July 2020 22: 20 New
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                    those. is it easier to say "oh, everyone ?!"
                  3. businessv
                    businessv 30 July 2020 22: 33 New
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                    Quote: Boris Chernikov
                    those. is it easier to say "oh, everyone ?!"
                    Have you decided to troll, colleague ?! Did I write it unclearly, or did you not bother to read it? I repeat, your post:
                    yeah, and also issued 11 loans for 11 lard rubles ... but shhh, secret
                    What did you want to say? You threw a fake, but you are stubbornly trying to get away from it! It won't work, colleague! Either an answer or a ban! Where is the infa about 11 "lards"? Either a link or a ban, I repeat, because I am tired of you!
                  4. Boris Chernikov
                    Boris Chernikov 31 July 2020 20: 07 New
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                    "you threw a fake." /7.html please link .. and yes, I was "wrong" .. not 4039 billion, but "only" 11 billion credits, he scored ... So next time if you are told, then do not squeal about "I am you now ban ".. look like a fool ..
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 16 July 2020 17: 04 New
    +4
    Quote: Stroporez
    And if from all this shit the wagon is the best for the people, then who then sits up?

    Very interesting remark.
  • Boris Chernikov
    Boris Chernikov 16 July 2020 16: 51 New
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    But how does this relate to the fact that he is accused of organizing three murders?
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 20 July 2020 06: 47 New
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    Furgal is an ordinary official and nothing more. I did what I did.
    From the article-Komsomlsk on the cupid did not find 5.5 million rubles for food in schools. And I found 24 Lyam on the officials. Skomorokhov could clarify that the mayor of Komsomolsk Zhornik is from the Liberal Democratic Party.
    As far as schools are concerned, the school lives on if they have their own canteen, but not a custom one. Its own school is about 1 million rubles per year of income for the school, which it can spend on repairs and the purchase of other things that are needed.
    If the school does not have a canteen, then the school is poor. Well, the school also has money if there are sponsors, and not everyone has them))) There is no money from the budget, and the contractor has to pay the company for meals for children
    There is no money for current repairs. Again, there is no money for general repairs, pennies are allocated.
    There is no money to repair kindergartens either.
    Roman Skomorokhov, where is this money that Furgal has saved?
    Companies are doing renovations in schools, and they will receive money in the best case next year.
    So the same was done specifically for the people? And about the allocated apartments, too, amused.
    In Komsomolsk, all the city gathers for fireworks on the cupid. Glory to the Liberal Democratic Party.
    Repairs of children's houses are financed by the region, the question is where is the money? And there is no one to ask, not of course you can call the education department and ask this question, but they will answer there -You do not save budget funds)))
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  • fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 16 July 2020 15: 20 New
    -23
    on the Maidan, the crowd gathered in exactly the same way, but how Furgal rushed to defend Navalny, Radio Liberty, BBC Russia, Rain and the rest of the Kodla paid from abroad is very significant
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 16 July 2020 15: 27 New
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      Quote: fruit_cake
      on the Maidan, the crowd gathered in exactly the same way, but how Furgal rushed to defend Navalny, Radio Liberty, BBC Russia, Rain and the rest of the Kodla paid from abroad is very significant

      Based on your logic, is power always doing everything right? And if not, how to protest? And if you still think that the authorities are always right, why is the life of the people getting worse?
      1. Thunderbringer
        Thunderbringer 16 July 2020 15: 34 New
        -23
        The fact is who and why are trying to use the wrongness of power.
        All of the above are certainly not for justice and the people, and certainly work for grants from the West.
        That is, they fulfill what the West needs. Does he really need justice to be established in Russia and people to live better?
        The very fact that this kodla rushed to the defense already proves that in this case the power is right.
        Moreover, the most important question still remains. Is this Furdal actually a bandit and a murderer in the past?
        If so, then everything is correct.
        1. andrew42
          andrew42 16 July 2020 16: 34 New
          14
          Thunderbringer, ah kid! That is, oligarchic capitalism in Russia, all kinds of evasion from evading the authorities from the duties of state. regulation in social issues, a failed demography for 25 years - this is "the wrongness of power", such an innocent childish prank, I didn’t want to, but I described it. And the point here is not the Furgal, but the image of the Furgal in the eyes of the Khabarovsk citizens.
        2. Polymer
          Polymer 16 July 2020 19: 58 New
          0
          Quote: Thunderbringer
          The very fact that this kodla rushed to the defense already proves that in this case the power is right.

          This does not prove anything. This Kodla is simply trying to capitalize on political capital in an easy way. Like they are with the people and all that. And in Furgal, in fact, they do not care - they just want to rise in the wake of popular protest.
      2. fruit_cake
        fruit_cake 16 July 2020 16: 33 New
        -16
        the power in the country is fragmented and there is a clan war, another thing is indicative of how many liberal bots have been registered here, throwing all the minuses
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 16 July 2020 17: 17 New
        +7
        Quote: Svarog
        And if not, how to protest?

        Who is to blame, who is right not for us to decide, and not for the authorities. But it’s very surprising when Radio Liberty, which is just crap, suddenly began to protect someone.
    2. volodimer
      volodimer 17 July 2020 20: 31 New
      0
      I’ll answer you, It’s not a Furgal, and moreover not that
      Furgal rushed to defend Navalny, Radio Liberty, BBC Russia, Rain and the rest of the Kodla paid from abroad

      it is significant that the actions of the authorities drove all opponents, both the supporters, mentioned by you, and those to whom all these
      Navalny, Radio Liberty, BBC Russia, Rain and the rest of the Kodla paid from abroad
      purely alien. This moment is the main mistake of the authorities.
      I do not want the characters you mentioned to take advantage of my protest, but I also do not want to be deprived of the opportunity to disagree with this authority on this basis.
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  • Thunderbringer
    Thunderbringer 16 July 2020 15: 44 New
    -14
    Quote: Civil
    The author, hold on, now unsuitable propagandists will come and show you how to stand up for 30 thousand Khabarovsk “corrupt bulk” and agents of the State Department.

    So far only yours are freaking out here.
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 16 July 2020 16: 54 New
    +7
    Quote: Civil
    The author, hold on, now unsuitable propagandists will come and show you how to stand up for 30 thousand Khabarovsk “corrupt bulk” and agents of the State Department. lol

    You still forgot the unaccounted inhabitants of Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Solnechny, Amursk, Nikolaevsk-on-Amur ...
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 16 July 2020 17: 51 New
    10
    Quote: Civil
    The author, hold on, now unsuitable propagandists will come and show you how to stand up for 30 thousand Khabarovsk “corrupt bulk” and agents of the State Department. lol

    It doesn’t matter if the liberal-minded people come or are beaten off by the cheers-patriots (not to be confused with the real patriots of the country). Both of them, like roosters on the fence, scream as if they were cut, and the sun rises when it is set for him.
    Now, according to the article ... this story reminded me of the story of Evdokimov (comedian). He also chopped the truth into the uterus as governor, that already chips flew. And he didn’t press his tails to the bureaucrats weakly ... but ... he finished it deplorably. For supreme helmsmen such people are an obstacle. And Furgal turned out to be so.
    Now the word official in fact has become not even abusive, but obscene. The split between the upper and lower classes in the country is so wide and deep that it’s just right to remember the grandfather of Marx and his upper ranks, but they don’t want the lower classes.
    1. Polymer
      Polymer 16 July 2020 19: 35 New
      +1
      This was not Marx formulated, but Lenin:
      The revolutionary situation is a concept first formulated by V. I. Lenin in the May Day Revolutionary Proletariat (1913): “For the revolution, it is not enough that the lower classes do not want to live as before. It also requires for it that the tops could not manage and manage, as before ”
  • blackies
    blackies 18 July 2020 18: 59 New
    -3
    do you want a revolution? forgot the 90s? living badly for those who can’t live. Soviet times have passed, the state, as in the West, will not feed anyone just like that. furgal-child of the 90s, it’s a pity that they don’t plant everyone, but then who will stay with Vova? need to be patient for another years ... (the west has gone to the present state for 500 years already)
  • carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 16 July 2020 15: 11 New
    -22
    Excuse me, but what a nonsense ... this is a bandit. simplest . God, how disgusting it is when it seems like sane people write something like that ... they’re twisting him on murders and I speak to you as a resident of this city for good reason. spit on motivation. Well, type sports club Moses. then try to compare the personal bodyguard and his assistant with the head of this club ... it's damn so simple ... he's a killer. explicit and everyone knows about it. the whole city was afraid of his people ... all whom he removed were replaced by his people. his family is a clan that every dog ​​knows about. son, kindred brothers, one way or another, in all directions of money sat in the region .. Timokha went out and immediately sat on the forest (which is his bodyguard).
    1. fruit_cake
      fruit_cake 16 July 2020 15: 21 New
      -7
      so he seemed to be involved with theft of the forest, the liberals yelled for several years about the exported forest and immediately rushed to defend it
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 16 July 2020 15: 23 New
        -7
        and that too. I just can’t understand what’s stopping me, just studying the issue normally and not on the social networks of young people who didn’t find it ...
        1. Thunderbringer
          Thunderbringer 16 July 2020 15: 37 New
          -5
          Why do fighters with the regime need to, “just study the question”?
          They try to use ANY reason to lose power, or at least weaken it.
          Neither truth nor justice has anything to do with it.
          And those who have already been brainwashed do not need to prove anything. by default they will shout that in any case the authorities are to blame.
          Nothing wrong. Who needs to figure it out. And with these organizers, and with the rest.
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 16 July 2020 15: 47 New
            -17
            Yes, even this can be ignored. man monopolized the metal trade in the region. the question is how? !!!!!
            1. Virus-free crown
              Virus-free crown 16 July 2020 16: 20 New
              17
              Quote: carstorm 11
              Yes, even this can be ignored. man monopolized the metal trade in the region. the question is how? !!!!!

              Hee hee !!! ... Ha ha !!! ... Sobyanin monopolized trade and tile laying in Moscow - metal trading in your region is a penny against this background good That's why there are no questions for Sobyanin, huh? laughing
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 16 July 2020 16: 22 New
                -19
                MON sher and if the case?) Furgal was a deputy? did he have an assistant and bodyguard Timofeev? check who he is? claim? essentially my questionf
                1. Virus-free crown
                  Virus-free crown 16 July 2020 16: 27 New
                  17
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  MON sher and if the case?) Furgal was a deputy? did he have an assistant and bodyguard Timofeev? check who he is? claim? essentially my questionf

                  I will answer soooo))) Since Furgal was allowed to participate in the election of the Governor and allowed to be elected, it means that the FSB checked him and his relatives up to 7 knees and did NOT find facts confirming your words laughing If you are not in Courses - Governor - by your status - High Official admitted to state secrets of the highest level !!!
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 16 July 2020 16: 31 New
                    -21
                    when do you turn on the fool? Was he on trial at the time of the election? or under investigation? Do you know the laws of the state? I am glad that it was modified and it will sit down.
                    1. Virus-free crown
                      Virus-free crown 16 July 2020 16: 50 New
                      +9
                      Quote: carstorm 11
                      when do you turn on the fool? Was he on trial at the time of the election? or under investigation? Do you know the laws of the state? I am glad that it was modified and it will sit down.

                      I just bring to your attention that I have already complained to you about the administration of the VO site - because I like the resource, I spend a lot of time here, and I would not want Furgal's crime partner - if they suddenly exist - they would close VO recourse
                      VO - this is the media ... "on your fingers" - your posts that you knew about Furgal's crimes - but were silent about it - from a legal point of view it would be the same as for you to write about it in the Russian Newspaper hi And according to the law, an article in the media is the reason for the prosecutor's office to begin investigative actions wassat
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              2. brat07
                brat07 18 July 2020 00: 57 New
                -2
                Quote: Crown without virus
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Yes, even this can be ignored. man monopolized the metal trade in the region. the question is how? !!!!!

                Hee hee !!! ... Ha ha !!! ... Sobyanin monopolized trade and tile laying in Moscow - metal trading in your region is a penny against this background good That's why there are no questions for Sobyanin, huh? laughing

                Sorry, but why "translate arrows" on Sobyanin? I don’t understand at all.
                Governor is actually discussing
                Khabarovsk Territory. Or not?
                And yes! You still have a "virus" (IMHO).
                1. Virus-free crown
                  Virus-free crown 18 July 2020 14: 46 New
                  -1
                  Quote: brat07
                  Quote: Crown without virus
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  Yes, even this can be ignored. man monopolized the metal trade in the region. the question is how? !!!!!

                  Hee hee !!! ... Ha ha !!! ... Sobyanin monopolized trade and tile laying in Moscow - metal trading in your region is a penny against this background good That's why there are no questions for Sobyanin, huh? laughing

                  Sorry, but why "translate arrows" on Sobyanin? I don’t understand at all.
                  Governor is actually discussing
                  Khabarovsk Territory. Or not?
                  And yes! You still have a "virus" (IMHO).

                  I did NOT translate arrows on Sobyanin !!! hi I just gave an example that there is, for example, Sobyanin, who monopolized trade and tile laying in Moscow by analogy that Furgal monopolized metal trade at home bully And what, claims to trade metal to Furgal? laughing
                  1. brat07
                    brat07 19 July 2020 10: 07 New
                    +1
                    I did NOT translate arrows to Sobyanin !!! hi I just gave an example,

                    Sorry, but your arguments do not sound very convincing!
                    You still did not understand my question. hi
    2. 056
      056 16 July 2020 15: 50 New
      19
      Kadyrov, who killed the first Russian at the age of 16, is a hero of Russia, academician of sciences, honorary member, etc. With money, yachts, personal doctors, business jets, elite stallions. And Furgal who is just the people's governor of a homeless person who does not have 2% of Kadyrov’s state. Where is the logic?
      1. strannik1985
        strannik1985 16 July 2020 16: 06 New
        -14
        Kadyrov

        And then he killed Chechens for Russian interests, for which he received everything that you listed.
        Furgal

        Well, yes, to demand the termination of the investigation in relation to a possible killer - there is no logic.
        1. Nehist
          Nehist 16 July 2020 16: 47 New
          13
          Actually, Kadyrov falls under an article on which there are no statutes of limitations !! But he is caressed by power and has all the preferences !!! Furgal, even if guilty, the statute of limitations has expired, so that according to the Criminal Code they cannot condemn him
        2. 056
          056 16 July 2020 19: 15 New
          +7
          I understand you that Kadyrov has the benefit of killing people?
          And Potanin, most likely, for pollution and the killing of the tundra ecosystem (although it is not a fact that the biography of this "gentleman" is, and other black spots are not on one article of the UKRF, but the Almighty protects him). It turns out that in order to become a respected person in Russia it is necessary to rip off three skins from the people, kill, cut down forests, and pollute rivers and do other "good deeds."
          And the king with the boyars, this situation is completely satisfied.
      2. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 16 July 2020 16: 56 New
        -9
        and his wife apparently found documents on the "small" Amurstal plant on the street?
    3. Svarog
      Svarog 16 July 2020 15: 52 New
      16
      Quote: carstorm 11
      Excuse me, but what a nonsense ... this is a bandit. simplest .

      You have simple bandits and not simple ones. You are negative towards the simple, but not the simple? And tell us, do you think we have the power of the spotless in power?
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 16 July 2020 15: 54 New
        -21
        where did you get this? I treat everyone the same. and there are none if you would like an answer. but he is a KILLER!
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 16 July 2020 15: 56 New
          +7
          Quote: carstorm 11
          where did you get this? I treat everyone the same. and there are none if you would like an answer. but he is a KILLER!

          That there has already been a court and the court has passed an indictment or are you so familiar with it?
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 16 July 2020 15: 59 New
            -14
            so I'm not a court like. I defend my point of view
          2. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 16 July 2020 16: 53 New
            -13
            open the search. type sports club Moses Khabarovsk and watch. his leader is Furgal's personal bodyguard) as well as his assistant when he is a deputy)
          3. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 16 July 2020 17: 22 New
            +6
            Quote: Svarog
            That there has already been a court and the court has passed an indictment or are you so familiar with it?

            I also wrote, only the court can make a charge, and we only put forward the OBS.
        2. Nehist
          Nehist 16 July 2020 16: 49 New
          11
          Do not believe it !!!! Here on the site are many who killed !!! In your understanding, are we killers too?
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 16 July 2020 19: 20 New
            +2
            Quote: Nehist
            Do not believe it !!!! Here on the site are many who killed !!! In your understanding, are we killers too?

            if not as part of professional activities authorized by the state, then the SINGLE KILLER !!!
    4. AK1972
      AK1972 16 July 2020 16: 01 New
      +9
      [quote = carstorm 11]he is a killer. explicit and everyone knows about it. the whole city was afraid of his people ...[/ Quote]
      Dmitry, somehow strange turns out - the whole city was afraid of him, and now demands his release. Well, not the whole city requires, but there are many. Do you really know that he is a murderer and bandos, and all the protesters do not know? Or is it all his lads and, accordingly, accomplices of the killer ... so something is a bit too much accomplices. A person’s murderer can only be called after a court conviction. Although, knowing our courts after the verdict (and he will undoubtedly be guilty), I would not be 100% sure.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 16 July 2020 16: 02 New
        -14
        the whole city did not require anything! but only a part of it and very small !!! I want to give a calculator ?!
        1. AK1972
          AK1972 16 July 2020 16: 24 New
          +5
          I'll try simpler. The whole city knew, then the protesters knew. Good - a small part. I agree with any number on your calculator, but it's not 10, not 100, and not even 1000, however if they knew why did they go out to demand the release of the notorious killer? Well, it doesn't add up to my puzzle.
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 16 July 2020 16: 28 New
            -14
            but this is the right question, but how many of his voters came out to protest?)))))
            1. AK1972
              AK1972 16 July 2020 16: 40 New
              +5
              Quote: carstorm 11
              but this is the right question, but how many of his voters came out to protest?)))))

              I did not ask such a question. I asked another: If they knew why they went out to demand the release of a notorious killer? And you did not answer.
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 16 July 2020 16: 42 New
                -15
                the new generation does not know him. I already said, but I repeat, summer. quarantine boredom. a few days have passed. 16th. where did they disappear then?) where is this protest?)
                1. AK1972
                  AK1972 16 July 2020 16: 57 New
                  +6
                  И all do these people belong to the young generation and come out to scream out of boredom? I don’t know Furgal and I can’t judge whether he is a killer or not, but you are a pharisaist, you can’t answer simple questions, so I don’t believe that you know anything.
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 16 July 2020 16: 59 New
                    -17
                    Yes, I’m not convincing you) believe what you want. and here I grew up. but you know more than me)
                    1. AK1972
                      AK1972 16 July 2020 17: 05 New
                      +5
                      I will repeat it again. I don't know anything about Furgal. I just have doubts and I have the right to them. I don’t hear anything from you, except that: “I grew up here”, “I am a Khabarovsk citizen and I know” these phrases do not inspire confidence in me. Unproven, Dmitry and unfounded.
                      1. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 16 July 2020 17: 12 New
                        -11
                        whatever) I understand that the Internet is hard for you)
                2. Cottodraton
                  Cottodraton 17 July 2020 08: 34 New
                  -4
                  You can’t explain anything to the local schizos! Do not even try. Then the trigger worked - since the authorities seized, then he is a Martyr! In addition, there are many "Russians" and just anarchists who just need to whine ...
                  The fact that these "Potsyk-vans" did on the streets once, this does not count. The main thing is that it is against the government (and absolutely any, the same 91 years as an example)!
                  Because, often, others are to blame for their curvature, laziness and dullness and love of alcohol! Especially the authorities! The wagon is a local prince. He cuts the forest in the same way and sells it to the Chinas. Especially fake groves go there with a bang ... For me, this is the struggle of the local clans. And I am amazed by people who, like rams, go to slaughter for the sake of others' interests.
            2. Nehist
              Nehist 16 July 2020 16: 54 New
              +5
              At one time, the slandered Nicholas I said, the law is law, but justice must also be !!! Pushkin was legally deserving of hard labor, Nikolai was his personal censor.
            3. Fitter65
              Fitter65 16 July 2020 17: 04 New
              +8
              Quote: carstorm 11
              but this is the right question, but how many of his voters came out to protest?)))))

              At least from 3 whom I know, 3rd came out ...
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 16 July 2020 17: 08 New
                -11
                turnout 48 percent of the election you edge so?
                1. Fitter65
                  Fitter65 17 July 2020 00: 33 New
                  -1
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  turnout 48 percent of the election you edge so?

                  And who prevented the remaining 52% from coming, everyone made his own choice.
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 17 July 2020 05: 15 New
                    0
                    they apparently knew who he was)
                    1. Fitter65
                      Fitter65 17 July 2020 13: 51 New
                      -2
                      Quote: carstorm 11
                      they apparently knew who he was)
                      what Yes, the Russian land will not be impoverished as the first misfortune, but the roads we are doing slowly ...
    5. Kisa
      Kisa 16 July 2020 17: 23 New
      +7
      But you know, this is not an indicator of who was strangling anyone in a bank of spiders in that dashing year. it’s more important and critical for me that a person burdened with power is doing here and now and it seems more important and priority for the local population .....
    6. NEXUS
      NEXUS 16 July 2020 19: 08 New
      11
      Quote: carstorm 11
      Excuse me, but what a nonsense ... this is a bandit. simplest . God, how disgusting it is when it seems like sane people write something like that ... they’re twisting him on murders and I speak to you as a resident of this city for good reason.

      They can spin even for treason, but ... in our country the legal system and the judicial system are very interesting. Recently I read about a maniac who raped two girls aged 14 and 17 in the basement. And kept them in this basement for 3 years. They gave birth to three children during this time. He threw children under the doors to people. And he was given 17 years for everything about everything. Next year he will be released. And it would seem ... it is necessary to break the geek, but no ... he will serve and "atone for the state."
      So what about the killings and so on ... you forgive me for not holding a candle, but writing here that yes, they say he is guilty. In our country, the aligarchs knocking down children, then in court (their lawyers) prove that a child of 4-5 years old was drunk to death. And they are justified. And you are here about the investigation and the Russian court with aspiration write.
      1. parma
        parma 17 July 2020 12: 58 New
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Excuse me, but what a nonsense ... this is a bandit. simplest . God, how disgusting it is when it seems like sane people write something like that ... they’re twisting him on murders and I speak to you as a resident of this city for good reason.

        They can spin even for treason, but ... in our country the legal system and the judicial system are very interesting. Recently I read about a maniac who raped two girls aged 14 and 17 in the basement. And kept them in this basement for 3 years. They gave birth to three children during this time. He threw children under the doors to people. And he was given 17 years for everything about everything. Next year he will be released. And it would seem ... it is necessary to break the geek, but no ... he will serve and "atone for the state."
        So what about the killings and so on ... you forgive me for not holding a candle, but writing here that yes, they say he is guilty. In our country, the aligarchs knocking down children, then in court (their lawyers) prove that a child of 4-5 years old was drunk to death. And they are justified. And you are here about the investigation and the Russian court with aspiration write.

        Hello drunk chase from the city of demons
    7. volodimer
      volodimer 17 July 2020 20: 47 New
      -2
      Dmitry, Prim was also under the governors, whom except .... are not caught - the thief cannot be called. What is Roman and everyone who writes on this subject wrong? They didn’t know, Ha Ha ... They knew but did not dare .. again Ha Ha They knew and waited for the right moment, here it was not Ha Ha at all. The problem is that when he began to emerge from the corruption vertical, they sealed him .... But in fact, everyone can be taken there ... Even on ramzan they will find an article ... but he is loyal.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 July 2020 06: 51 New
        0
        Fuck. From a vertical to a dead loop. Probably so right
    8. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 July 2020 06: 50 New
      0
      Of course a bandit))) Not a thief in law, of course, but the kid is right in life
  • paul3390
    paul3390 16 July 2020 15: 17 New
    16
    Yes, it’s understandable — either, well, he was sooooo hard and brazenly stealing, or — he began to commit some good deeds that did not fit into the governor-wide trend in Russia .. Do not really believe in some kind of murder 15 years ago? He was in sight all these years, had to draw a biography to the skin .. So - an obvious crap. Apparently the truth - for once, a more or less decent person was in power .. This is the result.
    1. Thunderbringer
      Thunderbringer 16 July 2020 15: 40 New
      -18
      Quote: paul3390
      Do not really believe in some kind of murder 15 years ago? He was in sight all these years, had to draw a biography to the skin .. So - an obvious crap. Apparently the truth - for once, a more or less decent person was in power .. This is the result.

      Well, really, what kind of murders could be 15 years ago?
      And evidence does not need to be collected. Enough to believe. Vote the Heart.
      Here, some believe that all polls representatives of the EP are thieves.
      And just as they believe that the opposition is crystal-honest people, strictly for the people and justice.
      And what will help them, except for a psychiatrist?
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 16 July 2020 15: 43 New
        20
        Well, yes - and the truth .. And they’ve been silent for 15 years, yes? While he was a deputy and so on? And as a governor, of course, no one checked him. And then suddenly rrrraz - and suddenly everything came up .. Blessed is he who believes ..
        1. Thunderbringer
          Thunderbringer 16 July 2020 15: 48 New
          -21
          Believe just yours. For example, the fact that all power is completely bad.
          And then iron evidence is required, which sometimes needs to be collected for many years. Work to carry out, painstaking.
          Here are the results.
          It is very difficult to present something to officials of this level. Lawyers and the opposition will immediately attack.
          Which is what we observe.
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 16 July 2020 15: 50 New
            21
            Wander - do not? 15 years of painstaking work was going on .. If so, then everything would have completely sat down, starting with the guarantor .. Behind him, even with Peter, a lot of things stretch. But no - only very objectionable suddenly suddenly a century-old Kaka pops up .. For the rest - you can ..
    2. Nehist
      Nehist 16 July 2020 16: 57 New
      +3
      I’ll tell you about our former governor who is currently sitting Khoroshavina !!! With him, at least something was done! And yes, everyone knew that he was stealing and was chasing him. many regret that it was removed
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 July 2020 06: 56 New
        0
        A billion to the city, a billion to itself))) That is, a good official must be a thief, so what? Unfortunately, everyone is judged by their own yard, and then tvava does not grow
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 16 July 2020 15: 18 New
    +9
    his governor, the head of the Liberal Democratic Party quickly rushed to make excuses that the party had nothing to do with rallies.

    And this is all our power.
    1. Thunderbringer
      Thunderbringer 16 July 2020 15: 42 New
      -10
      That’s all.
      If the lord of the LDPR turned out to be a murderer (and this is proved), then the party does not need him. Unless of course there are normal mentally people in it.
      All the others act in the same way. Only real traitors who make it much meaner and more cynical for foreign money.
      1. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 16 July 2020 16: 57 New
        0
        this is the standard practice of parties — and any, take all who pay grandmas
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 16 July 2020 15: 25 New
    -4
    What is happening causes a dual sensation. The rapid landing of Furgal, the arrests of five disabled pensioners, "who were preparing the seizure of power in Omsk" (Kvachkov found followers), all this causes some misunderstanding of the situation.

    What misunderstanding and ambivalence ..?
  • Olegater
    Olegater 16 July 2020 15: 41 New
    19
    If, what he did for the people, the truth is written in the article, which chose him, but for the reduction of his salaries and other bureaucrats, he should take an example from the rest of the Kremlin.
    Amid total impoverishment. That he is, MP.

    And I will answer those who strongly accuse him of murders. Have you read the evidence? It is protected by all m.r.a.s. type of anal? So, after all, the task of the rumbling authorities is to cover up his reputation with a connection with these bastards. What is not clear here?
    Do you believe in a fair trial? He will order and the court will do as it should top. Oh well. Blessed is he who believes in the infallibility of a judicial and other system. I talked with several lawyers and, for the sake of interest, I asked to tell cases from practice, they said, mainly on obscene. Understanding of the law and articles by some judges is completely absent! And you say justice! And these are civil cases. Not criminal.
    You know, dear forum users, this Furgal is like an exam for the Kremlin. Examination for the nationality.
    Ps could remove it by quiet, distrust, expiration of the term, "asked" persistently, a lot of things. And then to delay. But no, brazenly and openly done. Why not be afraid of the people!
    1. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 16 July 2020 17: 00 New
      -9
      It's funny .. if the governor from EP is taken right, well done, and if they accept the governor from other parties, then howls and screams ... The thief must be in prison, and even more so the killer ..
  • rocket757
    rocket757 16 July 2020 15: 42 New
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    People do not believe the upper, the authorities .... the upper have not yet decided what they want to do with the naughty people !!! Nobody has completely lost his mind yet. We will see the further development of events.
    1. Thunderbringer
      Thunderbringer 16 July 2020 15: 49 New
      -18
      Will they really close the discussion on VO? Well, or somewhere else in similar places.
      For your "people" this is of course a disaster.
      Nothing for the present in Russia.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 16 July 2020 16: 26 New
        +7
        Everything in this world is relative!
        Those who consider themselves to extol themselves the very essence of our country, today ... tomorrow they are no longer where they wanted to.
        But Russia still remains for those who consider it their homeland, and the current authorities .... let them disappear, like all the previous ones. This is a natural process; it cannot be stopped.
      2. andrew42
        andrew42 16 July 2020 16: 38 New
        +3
        Well, close, and close. We will not cry. Where will you work out a bun with butter?
  • Courier
    Courier 16 July 2020 16: 14 New
    -17
    Unfortunately, Roman did not understand who he was addressing.
    An official, by definition a gentleman, has always been like that for a common people, an official is a gentleman, we are slaves, the king is good, he knows better. Speak better live? And why, they didn’t live richly, there was no need to start.
    I think it is right. It will take 10/20/30 years. Russia will be the same, frozen, frozen. While the Soviet spirit is still alive, what kind of development Russia may have. The servility of citizens, as in socialism and boyar officials, no advantages, no equality, nothing. How beautiful it is, how beautiful.
    Let there be fewer wagons, and more than everyone else. Otherwise, Russia will not come to its senses.
  • timur1968
    timur1968 16 July 2020 16: 33 New
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    They began to deal with the situation around the Furgal orest. All official versions immediately disappear. The fact that they shout about Furgal’s high popular rating (like the Kremlin was scared) and its low voting results for amendments. This nonsense is natural, complete.

    Everything in this world and in our country is due to money. And in the Khabarovsk Territory it’s all because of (in our case) the AmurStal plant. Without financial interests, not only governors are being shut down.
    So:
    1. The AmurStal plant supplies metal to the entire Far East.
    2. In 2017, the Amurstal plant went to three partners: Pavel Balsky (50%), Nikolai Mistryukov (25%) and Larisa Starodubova (25%) (part-time wife of Sergei Furgal).
    3. Balsky (Muscovite) has almost sold his stake in 2019 yards in 2.7. But he slowed down. Why?
    4. Because, the theme of the bridge to Sakhalin surfaced. And this is a mega construction site, a bunch of metal. And the AmurStal plant is the only plant in the Far East who can pull this construction without unnecessary logistics. This is a perspective on space money.
    Therefore, in November 2019, Moscow security forces came to AmurStal. By chance. All of a sudden. Along with searches on AmurStal, one of the founders Nikolai Mistryukov is being arrested (some coincidence) with suspicion of long-standing murders. Those same murders that are now trying to sew Furgal.
    While Mistryukov was in Moscow’s pre-trial detention center, their organs were flattened, the Moscow founder Balsky suddenly bought his share in Amurstal. Although he was just about to sell his own. It happens. As long as the partner in the pre-trial detention center starts smoking, you can tidy up his share at a cheap price.
    Now the founder of Balsky already has a 75% stake in Amurstal. And another 25% - still with Larisa Starodubova, wife ... Furgal ... What did Balsky do? The wagon is not a carrot - it is the governor, under it is the entire edge. Maybe you need to drain it? We think Balsky’s interest here is obvious. If you plant a Furgal, the share of the plant will be cheaper on its own and the purchase will be easier. And suddenly, Moscow security forces arrive and knit Sergei Furgal, the governor of the Khabarovsk Territory. Again a coincidence.
    July 9, 2020 Furgal is arrested. On July 9 (the same day), Furgal’s wife receives a lawsuit demanding to declare bankruptcy the company to which 25% of AmurStal’s share is registered. What will Balsky do now? Would you accidentally buy a Furgal's share for a penny? Well, why not?
    Ask who is Balsky? Just the president of the national union of judo veterans (ha ha), among the founders of which there are Rottenbergs. The very ones who built the bridge to Crimea, the very ones who will build the bridge to Sakhalin. Estimate how everything is going well.

    So relax, gentlemen theorists. Only because of the dough, in this case quite a specific dough of AmurStal and the prospects of building a bridge to Sakhalin, did the good general governor of Khabarovsk Territory Sergey Furgal be removed.
    If his wife did not have a 25% stake in Amurstal, Seryoga would still be sitting in an armchair. So Balsky and Rottenberg removed Furgal because of the dough
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 16 July 2020 16: 54 New
      +9
      timur1968, thanks for voicing this version. It is very similar to the real "awl" that you can’t hide in the bag. Indeed, from the very beginning it was clear that it could not have done without BABL - the “whole royal army” would not have brazenly crushed the guber, even an objectionable, even a populist. There are other methods for the golimy policy, different terms - a gradual compromise step by step. So it turns out that there is still a subjective premise (Amurstal). But there is also an objective prerequisite - Wishlist competitors Furgal happily coincided with the irritation of the "heart of our country" (the club of friends of the Great) in relation to the unsystematic governor. Why not kill 2 birds with one stone, or even 3! So we have the bestial grin of oligarchic capitalism in all its glory. This is if you rise above the circumstances.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 July 2020 07: 00 New
      +1
      Rare nonsense. Maybe then answer: why Amurstal is in the deepest cesspool?
  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 16 July 2020 17: 31 New
    0
    the regional state is obliged ...

    I hope that this is not a Freudian reservation, but just Aunt Klava got it. It is so?
  • zontov79
    zontov79 16 July 2020 18: 59 New
    -1
    Nightingale diarrhea, i.e. litter, which governor is bad, only people can’t be fooled.
  • Andrey.AN
    Andrey.AN 16 July 2020 19: 06 New
    +2
    As for Furgal, it is still not possible to achieve clarity. It is not audible that it stinks, some much more hermetic uniforms let the stink of sinless people not compensated by the victim. The fact that the SK made a show out of his detention, handing out his unproven hypotheses to the media, is clear pressure on the court through public opinion, the SK does not make honor and, as practice shows, destabilizes the people.
  • Clueless
    Clueless 16 July 2020 19: 48 New
    +9
    The author forgot to write who is still in the company where Furgal and his friend are in jail ... I’ll give a hint .. judokas from the environment of a great and terrible nullifier. Those. here, they not only removed a person from the political arena, with ratings higher than that of Putin, they squeezed the company as well.
  • Pacifist
    Pacifist 16 July 2020 19: 56 New
    -3
    What he does now does not cancel what he did before. So do not confuse one with the other. In addition, I do not believe that such a loud detention could be just a showdown, not the level of decision-making. There are quite specific accusations with a completely understandable story. So to reduce everything to the issues of power squabbles is a very convenient, but not very correct position. Yes, the competent authorities have not yet learned how to work in the field of communicating reasons, which is bad, but I wouldn’t start to howl and catch a hype in the style of “arbitrary power”. There is a consequence, there is a court. Let them understand. But taking into account the information given in portions, this “national hero” had been preaching, before coming to power, for a couple of decades of strict regime.
    1. Andrey.AN
      Andrey.AN 16 July 2020 20: 17 New
      +1
      In addition to an explainable story, it is necessary to present its origin, in full text, the conviction of which is determined by the court. Is not it? Can we judge everyone in absentia without a court or lawyers, so that the accused will not have time to open his mouth, making his amendments? So only dictators are judged whose castrated court is just for the sake of appearance.
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  • Hagen
    Hagen 16 July 2020 20: 41 New
    -7
    I am for Sergei Furgal. Until he confessed to the murder - unconditionally in favor

    How often do you hear murderers confess to murder? I had to "work" with drug addicts and thieves. Those who are detained will say that they want to cry with their whole outfit. laughing But in the case of Roman, I'm not surprised. Whatever you write to him, the main thing is to be against the authorities.
  • iouris
    iouris 16 July 2020 22: 07 New
    -3
    I do not understand the exculpatory or accusatory pathos, since we are talking specifically about murders. If the investigation or the trial is obscured, it is necessary to demand consideration within a reasonable time, so that lawyers and human rights defenders can deliver their verdict.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 17 July 2020 06: 58 New
    -4
    Yes, what for a single impulse in defense of this governor, most likely the administrative resources were turned on and the people were forced out by force. The people of power do not believe in their masses and in such quantities will not work out — what else will we do?
  • depressant
    depressant 17 July 2020 08: 53 New
    +2
    According to Furgal, I unsubscribed in other articles of the site, the topic became uninteresting, I did not go to it yesterday. And today there was nothing to read in the morning, slipped on unreadable and terribly rejoiced: Roman! But this is our Roman Skomorokhov! Well, glory to the Creator! ...
    You will laugh, but I was very afraid that the arrested journalist Roman Golovanov is our Roman, and Skomorokhov is just a pseudonym. But they also took the journalist Roman Dorofeev. Are they there - are they picking up all the Romanovs?
    As for Furgal, he received the governor's post only because there was a thread for which he could be pulled in the right directions, namely tough crime - then pull there, then here, right, left, up, down - in the right, in a word, directions. The guy did not jerk where the First Person needed. And the latter, that is, the First, needs and is vitally useful to yank Furgal to where they point him, yanking him. And pulling the First pulls capitalism - a phenomenon criminal by definition. Stop skillfully, shrewdly shrewdly, and you are already in the substance. Everyone jerks!
    So, an honest, non-criminal person as governor - don’t tell!
    And here the question arises: what is good to be made of? The inhabitants of Khabarovsk wisely reasoned: but from evil! If evil is in agreement.
    Only such evil, which, not forgetting its criminal nature, is agreed to go under the control of the population and at least do something for it, is almost absent.
    Here, look at Potanin. Shaken by primary fear not for what was done - no! - with fear because of the reaction of the main world evil (“The largest catastrophe in the Arctic!”) to his insignificant person on the scale of that evil, he first humbly expressed his readiness to pay out in one pack 148 billion rubles to eliminate the created disgrace, but when the main world evil said “ Ah, well, okay! " and then he forgot about him, invigorated and familiar, as befits evil, not controlled by the First, he immediately became impudent: "Why am I? Has I lost my mind of the capitalist, or what? What 148 billion?"
    That's where the evil is, not wanting to turn into good. Or at least stand nearby, pretending to be.
    1. Old major
      Old major 17 July 2020 12: 49 New
      0
      And where does "First" want?
      1. depressant
        depressant 17 July 2020 13: 18 New
        -3
        The first one, remaining entangled by the strings of obligations, and so many of them are entwined into a knot that cannot be cut in the current conditions, in these conditions it is vital for him to get as much power as possible. But not in order to revel in oneself, but in order to solve this very problem of dependence on a host of villains and to direct their activities in the right direction - 'do good from your own evil. Because there is no evil without good.
  • And why do you need
    And why do you need 17 July 2020 09: 14 New
    +3
    Rallies in Khabarovsk are of course spontaneous. Self-organization in its purest form. The reason is the fantastically “skillful” development of the region from the beautiful far, coming under constant victorious relations. The reason is the boorish arrest of the "people's" governor, no one believes the guilty party plus or minus. Who is the Wagon for us? He is the source of identity (our embodied protest) for hundreds of thousands of Khabarovsk citizens.
    The lesson is simple: when a nation is one (it doesn’t figure out who is the hardest hitpan and who is in charge), it is invincible. How to solve the problem? Elementary. Jury trial in Khabarovsk. Maximum open. Without the "secrets of the investigation." Accused of public figure, publicly present evidence, and do not tell a detective novel on TV. And all will be happy
    1. Hagen
      Hagen 17 July 2020 11: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Why do you need it?
      Maximum open. Without the "secrets of the investigation." Accused of public figure, publicly present evidence, and do not tell a detective novel on TV. And everyone will be happy

      No offense. You, apparently, did not walk next to the investigation, so it seems to you simple and possible. In fact, we are talking about the creation and management of an organized criminal group, and this is not a swindler to steal from a supermarket. The organized crime group is a group, perhaps not completely fragmented, but probably not in a peaceful mood. It is for the fight against organized crime groups that a witness protection program has been developed. Therefore, without the "secrets of the investigation" well, just nothing .... If you are of course interested in the truth and reality.
    2. Old major
      Old major 17 July 2020 12: 47 New
      0
      Well, yes, spontaneous ... On the second day, after the arrest, leaflets like "I-We-Furgal" and calls for a rally appeared in all mailboxes of the region's cities. Pure folk element ...
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 July 2020 07: 02 New
      0
      Regional development?
  • Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 17 July 2020 10: 52 New
    +2
    Quote: veritas
    The man of the word in Russia has always evoked respect. The wagon was the man of his word, for the first time in modern history, people felt that their candidate had come and was immediately arrested.


    And here let me disagree with you: as follows from the article Furgal is not a man of his word, Furgal is a man of business !!! And it was with his deeds for the benefit of the territory entrusted to him and the People that he won the love, respect and support of this very People !!!
    I emphasize: not propaganda of a pack of paid journalists and mass media, but just good deeds and respect for the People. The very People, which for the vast majority of officials is nothing more than "biomass", "electorate", or simply "mob", "drunkard" and "" ...
    I believe that the Furgal phenomenon itself humiliates our bureaucracy, clearly demonstrating all its squalor ...
    However, there is a very funny alignment: what can the authorities do now and what will happen as a result?
    If Furgal is punished (it doesn't matter whether he committed the crimes imputed to him or not), he will remain in the memory of the people as an innocent victim. Probably, over time, this memory will grow into legends and he will turn into a holy martyr. For the authorities - a clear stain.
    If Furgal is released and reinstated as governor, the government will consider itself dishonored. How - forced to retreat before the indignation of the rabble !!! Completely unacceptable!
    Let Furgal go, reinstate and punish "his ill-wishers" who slandered an honest, noble person ... But then the Authorities will have to call to account and inflict reprisals against themselves !!! Fantastic...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 July 2020 07: 02 New
      0
      Funny, very funny
  • GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 17 July 2020 11: 04 New
    +3
    Yes, really holy ...... Moscow only needs money from RUSSIA, we’ll sell everything! -a people in Moscow are more than in Siberia with the Far East ....... And a hectare of land DAROM -no. They do not want to change their place of residence ...... Hearty and warm in Moscow ..... her district. ...
  • Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 17 July 2020 11: 12 New
    +1
    I re-read the article and remembered:
    "After the death of Count Muravyov-Amursky in Paris in 1881, where he spent his last years, residents of the city of Blagoveshchensk petitioned for the construction of a monument to N.N.Muravyov in Blagoveshchensk... "Throughout Eastern Siberia, and especially on the Amur, Count N. N. Muravyov-Amursky enjoyed great sympathy of society, and in Blagoveshchensk, a place has long been prepared by grateful citizens of this city, where fans of the deceased would like to see a monument erected in his honor", - it was said in the appeal of the Governor-General of Eastern Siberia D. G. Anuchin to the government. On December 21, 1881, Minister of the Interior N.P. Ignatiev informed Blagoveshchensk that "the sovereign emperor ... most deigned to allow the collection in Eastern Siberia and other places of the empire of voluntary donations for the construction of a monument in Blagoveshchensk." Fundraising was carried out for several years and became truly nationwide: people of various classes donated not only in the Far East, but throughout Russia. "
    I wonder if many of the officials from the current government are "grateful residents" ready to publicly raise funds for the monument?
    Who knows, maybe the residents of Khabarovsk have already made such a decision and without the highest permissions?
  • Old major
    Old major 17 July 2020 12: 42 New
    +3
    Roman, so Furgal ordered the killings or not?
    1. depressant
      depressant 17 July 2020 14: 37 New
      -1
      A colleague, Old Major, an article by Roman not about Furgal, but about the acute need of the people for a normal, capable administration. Which, albeit pursuing its own selfish interests - for a start so far, even so, at the same time would not forget about the interests of the people. Incidentally, within the framework of the legislative framework of the state.
      1. iouris
        iouris 18 July 2020 10: 15 New
        0
        Quote: depressant
        for a start, while at least so, at the same time would not forget about the interests of the people.

        Yeah. “You rub a sandwich with caviar, you think:“ How are the people? ”“ Let's not talk about the “people's governors”. By the way, under the tsar-father it would be the governor-general, i.e. military. Generals are not elected. If you don’t want to be a cog in this suppression machine, don’t go to the governor’s office, sell che-nt to China. Are you a doctor? - so go get busy with people! "Russian reality" is reality, not some kind of fantasy.
    2. Andrey.AN
      Andrey.AN 17 July 2020 20: 37 New
      -1
      See for yourself if he had a motive to go on a murder, they didn’t organize such a thing from nephew, so he had to put his head to the chopping block of accomplices and performers, and why are they all alive?
  • NordUral
    NordUral 17 July 2020 12: 43 New
    +3
    Khabarovsk residents like it. But he will deceive - so they will explain everything to him. Whether he is a killer or not is still a big question.
    And still useful from this story with the governor - Zhirik merged, clearly showing that he is not just a clown, but a clown from the power of thieves and crooks.
    1. iouris
      iouris 18 July 2020 10: 19 New
      0
      Quote: NordUral
      Khabarovsk people like it.

      And GDP, then, is already "not to your liking"? Well, this means that the Khabarovsk residents will soon have problems.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 18 July 2020 11: 12 New
        0
        And who likes him? And Russia has had problems with this and that for a long time. And they only grow.
        1. iouris
          iouris 18 July 2020 11: 15 New
          0
          Quote: NordUral
          And who likes him?

          But this is another question and it is not being resolved in Khabarovsk. You must also be able to separate flies from cutlets.
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 18 July 2020 11: 17 New
            -1
            It is necessary to decide, and throughout Russia, I agree.
  • Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 17 July 2020 14: 04 New
    +1
    Quote: iouris
    If the investigation or the trial is cloudy, it is necessary to require consideration within a reasonable time, so that lawyers and human rights defenders can reach their verdict.

    REQUIRE???
    Excuse me, have you ever participated in this lawsuit? Have you ever had to complain to the prosecutor’s bodies about the investigator’s action / inaction?
    1. iouris
      iouris 18 July 2020 11: 13 New
      0
      I had to. And what is the alternative way (not necessary)?
  • venaly
    venaly 18 July 2020 11: 57 New
    0
    It is enough for a governor with a black past to carry out a couple of reforms that the masses like - that's it, they will forgive murders and robberies. Such a people is called a crowd.
    1. Visavi
      Visavi 18 July 2020 14: 55 New
      0
      You are right when you talk about populism. Here's what journalists wrote back in 2019: “The equalization of school meals can be attributed to the governor and his team — poor children will eat in school canteens the same as those whose parents can pay for lunch. The governor’s PR was just fabulous provided.

      At that time, in the neighboring Amur Region, they quietly and calmly launched the first stage of the regional project, according to which children in schools will eat for free - all children. The first stage of the project started already on September 2019, 1. All students from grades 4 through 1 receive full hot lunches at the expense of the regional budget. As part of the further implementation of the project, all students from grades 11 to XNUMX will be transferred to free meals.

      In Khabarovsk Territory free dinners are not expected. Moreover, on social networks, parents of schoolchildren complain that the prices for school lunches have almost doubled. -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- Do not believe the one who speaks beautifully, in his words there is always a game. - Trust the one who silently does beautiful things. (Omar Khayyam)
  • Visavi
    Visavi 18 July 2020 13: 41 New
    0
    One of the main points: ABOUT NATURAL. "" I have not lived for the first year in the world, not a dozen years in the profession. I perfectly understand, and not only me, that such a colossus by itself, "spontaneously" will not rise, it is impossible! After all, not only in Khabarovsk, all over the country — in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, in Vanino, in Sovetskaya Gavan, Amursk, Okhotsk, even in little De-Kastri. Even before the arrest of Furgal we observed some unhealthy “movement” in Khabarovsk, there were a lot of visitors - foreign and Russian opposition cameramen, journalists, it was not clear why. And immediately after the arrest of Furgal, the regional government already had foreign journalists, film crews. On the first day of the protests I personally watched how the fence was cleaned from the square, how the columns were formed, how literally tons of printed materials appeared instantly - leaflets, T-shirts, T-shirts, banners and posters calling for “Freedom to Furgal.” This is a lot of money! And they tell me about the spontaneous protest? I saw with my own eyes, and not only me, how columns were formed as orders were given. In Khabarovsk today there is not only a huge amount of foreign press - professional provocateurs, participants in various protest rallies across the country, have also gathered in our city. And now this is already very bad, in my opinion. We are now preparing a small film based on what we managed to shoot. Be sure to put the film on the net so that people can see how "this protest is spontaneous." Details: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3009838.html
    All this was announced by the well-known Khabarovsk journalist Yevgeny Nikolenko. Does it make sense to listen to him?
    Maybe yes. Not only hear yourself, beloved. A little later, let's talk about the "nationality" of Furgal.?
    -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- Two looked at one window. One saw rain and mud.
    The other is foliage of green ligature, spring and the sky is blue.
    Two looked at one window. (Omar Khayyam)
  • Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 18 July 2020 16: 13 New
    0
    Quote: iouris
    It was necessary.

    So I had to ... and unfortunately I know too well how such requirements end when law enforcement agencies do not really want to work on the case ... It's easier to pierce a concrete wall with your forehead than to demand something ... Alas ...

    And as regards your question about the alternative path, then I have no answer.
  • Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 18 July 2020 16: 27 New
    0
    Quote: venal
    It is enough for a governor with a black past to carry out a couple of reforms that the masses like - that's it, they will forgive murders and robberies. Such a people is called a crowd.


    Lord, this is how you need to despise your own people to draw such conclusions ...

    My answer to you will be this: and the people do not believe in the statements of the authorities about the "black past" of the governor. Too many authorities deceived their People, looked down on the People for too long, thought for too long that the People had benefited with one fact of their existence ...

    However, if we continue the logic of your statement, then ... The people do not see the difference between the government and the governor "with a black past." And this means no more and no less that all the authorities in the eyes of the people have a very similar "black past", however, a certain governor turned to face the People and did the People good - and this is the result, they support him.
    1. Visavi
      Visavi 18 July 2020 17: 51 New
      +1
      Abrosimov, you repeat the word people too many times: the governor turned to face the people, the people see no difference, the people looked at them for too long .... The stadium in Cherkizovo is also the people. There is also a capacity of 30000 people. The stadium should not decide the fate of the region, especially the country. Once such a stadium, the size of a stadium in Luzhniki, “defended” the White House. Later, many defenders said that if they knew where this would lead, their spirit would not be there. I don’t believe this crowd, it’s the same number from the same ones, in some places theatrically organized (in front, for example, wheelchair users, etc.). The law must be enforced whether someone likes it or not. And soon we will find out and see the details of the financing of this protest, its organization and its organizers. I lived in Siberia. I lived in the Far East, and am familiar with the lives of these people. Now the main thing is not the performance of this crowd, but the main thing is the prevention of a possible tragedy. The scenario of shooting at people in such cases is always present: at the White House, in the Baltic states, and in Ukraine. Do you think the organizers of the "protest" do not understand that you can go to no avail and another month? Understand. Therefore, the scenario with provocation is relevant and too likely. Our bodies slept a lot. A Furgal will sit. Too much has been claimed for irrefutable evidence. The purge of power from crime will continue.
      1. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
        Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 19 July 2020 08: 32 New
        -1
        Quote: Vis
        Once such a stadium, the size of a stadium in Luzhniki, “defended” the White House. Later, many defenders said that if they knew what this would lead to, their spirit would not be there. I do not believe this crowd, this is the same number from the same ones, theatrically organized in some places (in front, for example, wheelchair users, etc.)


        In this part, I have nothing to argue with you.
        Although ... Yeltsin came to power in the wake of empty promises and demagoguery, Furgal made a number of concrete actions in the interests of the People. Agree, the difference is obvious.

        The law must be enforced whether someone likes it or not.
        You can't even imagine how much I agree with you !!! The law must be enforced, and at any cost !!! Otherwise, chaos and anarchy await us !!!
        However, what law are you talking about ???
        As follows from the article - Furgal greatly annoyed the authorities, became dangerous to the authorities and the authorities eliminated him. Is this the law you are talking about?
        According to one of the comments to this article, the business interests of Balsky and Rottenberg are behind Furgal's arrest. So the arrest of Furgal is the result of a conspiracy of these persons with law enforcement agencies?
        And what do you call the execution of the law?
        In any case, Furgalu is charged with the crimes he committed 15 years ago. During this time, he (Furgal) also managed to be a State Duma deputy, was popularly elected governor ...
        Well, where have your law enforcement agencies been all this time?
        And then, suddenly they (law enforcement officers) saw their light and rushed headlong to comply with the law and catch the criminal leaked to power! Tell me, aren't you funny?

        You are talking about the organizers of the speeches, that the speeches in support of Furgal are far from spontaneous and we will soon find out ...

        I have no doubt that soon they will notify us that the protests have been paid no less, directly from Langley
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 18 July 2020 20: 03 New
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    Are you sure that these people all married Furgal? Perhaps some group came out with posters. But I'm sure the rest came out with boiling problems. And the envoy had to deal with problems earlier.
    1. Visavi
      Visavi 18 July 2020 21: 43 New
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      Right. The plenipotentiary should have dealt with problems earlier. To be honest, it is difficult for all of us to determine an unambiguous reason for the demonstrations of people, albeit organized, but still quite massive for Khabarovsk. Why is it difficult? Because if you look at job offers in Khabarovsk, you will see hundreds and hundreds of offers for builders (from 80 to 120 thousand rubles, LLC Polati), a cashier in the hall (28-30 thousand rubles. Doctors, pharmacists, security guards, drivers, hundreds and hundreds of offers!), and people in the crowd are dressed no worse than Muscovites. On the other hand, the lack of housing is a very acute problem. But as journalists write in the materials a year ago, for example, in the Primorsky Territory comes the large federal construction company PIK, which will build 500 thousand square meters each. meters of housing per year. This will not only increase the speed of housing and other social facilities, but also “drop” the cost per square meter. In some media there was information that the same company, PIK, was also considering the Khabarovsk Territory. But nothing was heard from the regional authorities. Although Furgal loudly announced the allocation of a huge amount from the FEDERAL budget. All this was a year ago. The debts on salaries and loans are growing. But a lot of populist statements. You know, I personally looked at the economic and social situation with the Lipetsk Region, which is equivalent in terms of human resources (1 million 350 thousand people). Take a look: The gross product of the Khabarovsk Territory is 25 percent more than the product of the Lipetsk Region. But the amount of subsidies from the federal budget to the Khabarovsk budget is not 25% more than the Lipetsk one, but about 7 times more! (7 billion rubles versus 1 billion rubles ). And despite this Lipetsk is expanding with new buildings, wonderful roads, I no longer recognize it. Furgal was in charge for about two years, obviously not effectively, together with the plenipotentiary. This must be resolutely understood. Unfortunately, today's protest was saddled by very undesirable representatives of the “elite” (concern for loved ones), as well as various opposition figures with opaque funding. And, pay attention, in Moscow someone handed over information about the arrest of Furgal, because even before the arrest, Khabarovsk was flooded with media and INOSMI. Posters, T-shirts have already been printed, foremen identified, etc. Now I am worried about possible victims, since everything has already been calculated. I wrote about this above. A difficult situation. But it will be resolved, not so faced.
      1. And why do you need
        And why do you need 19 July 2020 01: 14 New
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        “Plenipotentiary Trutnev has demonstrated a strong ability to extinguish a fire with kerosene. His speech about the fact that, they say, they underestimated the fatigue of the population from Shport in the 2018 elections reads like self-exposure. a handwritten confession that Furgal was now taken not for criminal reasons, but precisely for political reasons.

        The chain is exactly this: two years ago they chose the “wrong” one, the embassy could not solve this problem by soft means, and had to close the “wrong” one for old sins. In this sense, it is not surprising that the city took and left.

        Whatever the decision specifically on Khabarovsk, in any case, the replacement of the plenipotentiary would be a good addition to it. Maybe not right now, so as not to paralyze absolutely any governance structures. But in general, Yuri Petrovich, I think, has exhausted the limit on mistakes. "
        1. Visavi
          Visavi 19 July 2020 02: 34 New
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          I laughed at the somewhat forgotten kerosene). I would agree, perhaps, with the version of "closing" for old sins. If Furgal was the only one who would, with a high probability, be closed for these very sins. But, Vladimir (sorry, I just don't see your full name), I allow myself to remind Briefly that since 2014, only half a dozen governors have been "closed", and only together with deputies, mayors, etc. about 200 characters. And for OLD sins, with a similar wording (organizing an organized criminal group and murders already in 1994!) As you must remember, Bykov, a former deputy of the Legislative Assembly of the Krasnoyarsk Territory, was recently arrested, etc. So Furgal is not the first and not the only one in this series of "closed" ones. You, of course, can have your own opinion, but I remain with mine. Life will judge us. And a few short remarks:
          1. If Furgal is effective as a governor, why are we living so badly?
          2. All protests are clearly organized, and we will soon see that in detail. 3. There is a scenario with the murder of people, as I wrote above, and God forbid that I was wrong. 4. What will happen if the protests continue for more than a month or more? What happened in Hong Kong? China is wise. -Therefore it is a whole territorially. What will happen? We'll see everything soon.
          1. And why do you need
            And why do you need 19 July 2020 04: 08 New
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            Not seeing what is happening in the cities of our region, I would not comment and give an assessment of what is happening. People came out against the arrest of the governor and want coverage of what is happening. Pitiful speculation about the payment, cause laughter. It remains to write that participants in the rally are refueled at the gas station for free.
            1. Visavi
              Visavi 19 July 2020 10: 05 New
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              We have seen flyers, T-shirts, T-shirts, banners and posters calling for "Freedom to Furgal".
              Today's prices for digital printing in A4 format for 1000 pieces (simple printing) are 15750 rubles, with a picture - 40000 rubles, A3 format for 1000 pieces - 29196 rubles. A simple T-shirt -200 rubles, for 1000 shea -200000 rubles. Printing on a T-shirt on his chest - 360 rubles, for 1000 T-shirts-360000 rubles, distribution of leaflets (mail, stands in the hallways, distribution on the streets, car wipers, etc.) - for 20000 pcs. -9000 rubles. All these prices are WHOLESALE, for the minimum batch. Add here transport and handling operations, storage costs, etc., take into account that the format of printed products is not only A4 and A3, but also large sizes, note that posters with handwritten text is even more expensive, you must consider that the product must be printed again and again, as the process takes more than one day, as a result we will reach millions of costs. Therefore, Vladimir, as you might guess, does not have to be in the center of the crowd to see at least this part of the organizational costs. I appreciate your humor as above with kerosene, and here with free gasoline. Although, it does not bother to check ...)
  • Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 19 July 2020 02: 14 New
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    Unfortunately, there are in any region of Russia, in Khabarovsk too. And the fact that the roads in Khabarovsk became worse under Furgal, the liberal author somehow modestly kept silent about this. Well, yes, this is the Kremlin's "propaganda". And the fact that the billionaire-governor has reduced his salary is just a "miracle" of management thought !!!
    And the coronavirus, after such degenerate rallies, rushed up, it is also the "Kremlin slaves" to blame. Judging by the delirium listed with this libel, Furgal is the second Jesus, like that tanned repeat offender-addict, after whose death from an overdose in the "light castle on the hill" "light" and not so elves began to rob shops and burn cars.
    Question: Well, they came out, well, they shouted, well, they raised an information wave and WHAT ????????????????????????
    Someone will react to this scream in the sandbox ??? NO, from the word ALL. Means re-inoculated a lot of people in vain !!! And who is then the provocateur and stupid person ???
  • Procopius Nesterov
    Procopius Nesterov 19 July 2020 08: 47 New
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    I’m a bullshit. A wagon was a bandit who killed 4 people. And someone supports such scum. And the article where on the Military Review, in support of the murderer and his justification. The resource fell below the plinth.
  • Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 19 July 2020 09: 05 New
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    Quote: Procopius Nesterov
    I’m a bullshit. A wagon was a bandit who killed 4 people. And someone supports such scum. And the article where on the Military Review, in support of the murderer and his justification. The resource fell below the plinth.


    It is a fact that the article does not fully correspond to the topic of the site. And far from the first.
    But tell me, who told you that Furgal is a bandit, that he committed the murder of 4 people?
    Did he tell you this himself?
    As far as I understand, evidence against Furgal was given by his business partner as part of a deal with the investigation. That business partner was shining ... is it not for life ??? I was not mistaken ???
    In such a situation, in order to reduce the term, a person admits that he is the son of the Pope ...
    1. Foxmara
      Foxmara 21 July 2020 17: 17 New
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      The indications are not yet resolved. We need an evidence base. They also testified against me at one time. And even the case was opened. But since there was no base - only testimony and assumptions - for a whole year, neither shaky nor roll. Until I ruined this structure myself with a competent fork. Would be smarter, would have done in a week.
  • Sibtema
    Sibtema 19 July 2020 14: 17 New
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    Oh, come on! Where I did not expect such reading is here. I don't know what happened to Furgal (and the author doesn't know, and the commentators, too, don't know from the word "absolutely"), but the fact that our people came out on their own and will come out is a very funny joke.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 19 July 2020 15: 11 New
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    Quote: brat07
    I did NOT translate arrows to Sobyanin !!! hi I just gave an example,

    Sorry, but your arguments do not sound very convincing!
    You still did not understand my question. hi

    Then you re-read the entire thread and ask your question directly with the test - I will answer !!! hi
  • Alexei
    Alexei 20 July 2020 09: 27 New
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    Is this the first governor in prison? There were few of them, or what? In the same Khabarovsk, the former governor Ishaev came under investigation. And senators ... And ministers ... Power - thieves. There are thieves in power. Thieves eat each other. And what about this, Khabarovsk people? Your governor, an official Putin, was detained with Putin's sanction and taken to Moscow for investigation. So yours is only because he lived in Khabarovsk. Otherwise he is a Putin official. Do you really need to harness this body?

    Something tells me, some sixth sense that your vital interests lie in a completely different plane. Your interests are to send all this United Russia, all its parliamentary “opposition”, all that petty political trash that creates its own parties and runs to register them with the authorities that appoint governor bandits to you, to send to hell.

    It's funny that you yourself understand this. Only while you do not understand well that without organizing yourself into a political force, you will run around stupid rallies in defense of any crooks, or even bandits, as with Furgal you did it.

    What will end the protest in Khabarovsk? Yes, nothing. Who needs this Furgal there?

    https://p-balaev.livejournal.com/1297518.htm
  • Andvigor
    Andvigor 20 July 2020 11: 20 New
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    Popcorn was just brought to the store!
    I’ll go and take it, but I’ll have a grain of beer, for the health of the guardian for the good of the people, Furgal, the silverback!
    Yes, I will read the comments shitty! good
  • Andrey Stavropolsky
    Andrey Stavropolsky 20 July 2020 20: 56 New
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    The question is not Furgala. The question is, what is the group behind it? It is so cool to work out a PR-party, at the BLM level in the United States, few people can, few have such an ideally working mechanism to destabilize the situation. It never happened that crowds of people came out for an official, even a very good one, and climbed the barricades. I believe that this group was opened, and everyone whom it supervises will soon be reset to zero.
  • Foxmara
    Foxmara 21 July 2020 17: 04 New
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    Furgalov is a man from the 90s. With the appropriate luggage. So taking it for something is not a problem. At one time, he also pulled bandits to himself already as a deputy, and he started not with the production of forks, but with the sale of combines under the guise of black scrap to China. If you can do it without crime, you are another Osia Bender. The fact that he reduced the debt by a couple of yards is significant, of course. And he should have had enough enemies, as the author mentioned. That's just the truth here without GDP seems to be impossible to understand. One thing is for sure - it is easier to dig up a crime on an entrepreneur - a merchant from the 90s, which was done. You can also safely plant any builder now. But who will build then ..