Universal landing helicopter carrier ship for the Russian Navy: mission is feasible

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Pre-simultaneous laying of six ships, including universal landing, was planned for April 28, but this was prevented by a pandemic. Dates have shifted somewhat.

The construction of the UDC, also called helicopter carriers, as previously reported, will be undertaken at the Zaliv Shipyard in Kerch. The first ship will be called "Sevastopol" (under the name "unreceived" "Mistral"), and the second has not yet received its name. Perhaps Vladivostok. One of them is intended for the Black Sea fleet, the other is for the Pacific. Never before in the Russian Federation or in the USSR have such projects been undertaken.



One helicopter carrier can accommodate about a thousand marines, six landing boats, dozens of armored vehicles and more than 20 helicopters. A helicopter dock will be equipped with a dock. The cost of two ships will be about 100 billion rubles.

Surf instead of Mistral


Initially, they did not intend to build UDC in Russia, but the need forced it. This mission could seem impossible for several more years, but now, apparently, there are projects and developments.

It must be recalled that Moscow ordered the construction of two Mistral helicopter carriers in France. The contract was signed in 2011, but after the Crimea entered the Russian Federation in 2014, the United States and the European Union began to put pressure on our country with sanctions, so Paris demanded that the deal be canceled. The agreement was broken in 2015, paying money, after which Russia decided to build helicopter carriers on their own.



Two UDC projects were presented to the military sailors, one of them was chosen under the name “Surf”. The construction of two ships under this project was included in the state program for the period 2018-2027, and the contract for construction between the Russian Ministry of Defense and the Zaliv plant was concluded in 2020. The first helicopter carrier should be transferred to the fleet in 2026, and the second - in 2027.

UDC features


Although the UDC is very similar to an aircraft carrier, its purpose is completely different. In short, it is intended for landing amphibious assault forces on the enemy’s coast using helicopters and boats. But in fact, such a ship is capable of performing a much wider range of tasks.

It can accommodate attack and transport helicopters, marines, armored vehicles, landing boats. In addition, the helicopter carrier is equipped with facilities for accommodating personnel, equipment, ammunition, food. There is a command post and a hospital with operating rooms. That is, it is not only a delivery vehicle, but also a warehouse, headquarters, medical institution. The word “universal” characterizes it most precisely.

During the landing, floating armored vehicles in combat order can leave the ship and land on the shore. Non-floating - delivered by boats. Attack helicopters support the landing of troops by fire, while transport helicopters deliver airborne forces by air, for example, to the rear of the enemy defending the coast.

There is also the option of using UDC for escorting sea convoys. In this case, they should have anti-submarine helicopters on board.

UDC - the main component of a universal combat system


The new Russian helicopter carriers will be a valuable acquisition for our Armed Forces, although this value is disputed by many experts. But the presence of only warships is not enough. They will require the development or modernization of equipment that will be used in conjunction with helicopter carriers.

For example, you need a floating naval combat vehicle. This is technically not an easy task. Then it’s worth considering the creation of a new landing craft or, perhaps, the modernization of an existing model.

There is no problem with an attack helicopter, because there is a modern combat vehicle with excellent technical characteristics - Ka-52K. With transport helicopters suitable for solving the tasks facing UDC, the situation is somewhat more complicated. There is a project to create the Lamprey marine helicopter, but lately almost nothing has been heard about it.

It can be assumed that, if the laying day of the new Russian helicopter carriers has already been determined, then they also thought about creating other technical means necessary for the effective use of these ships in the defense industry. Therefore, we should soon expect the announcement of the projects of landing boats, combat vehicles of marines and other equipment.
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  1. -7
    14 July 2020 13: 31
    It is likely that the operation will be limited to express by analogy with the BDK, driving to Syria and back.
    1. -1
      14 July 2020 14: 34
      Well, with whom do we fight?
      America / NATO still does not attack ..))
      1. +9
        14 July 2020 15: 25
        It’s not a matter of fighting. UDC should be on alert, and not wear out. There are cheaper options for this.
        1. -2
          15 July 2020 09: 48
          There is also the option of using UDC for escorting sea convoys

          UDC itself will require escort. Escort escort ship? And what's the point? Helicopters provide PLO?
      2. +12
        14 July 2020 16: 00
        Quote: Roman123567
        Well, with whom do we fight?
        America / NATO still does not attack ..))

        So the landing forces of any fleet are not imprisoned for a big war. In the great war they will steer tank wedges and carpet bombing SSBN / SSBN, covering forces for their positional areas and PLO forces.
        Airborne forces are designed for conflicts of medium and low intensity. Including protection of interests of national companies in foreign countries TVD markets (in the same Africa). They say that a bribe and a water squadron on duty at the border are much more effective in pushing for the right decision than just taking a bribe. smile
        1. 0
          14 July 2020 19: 41
          This squadron should help make the right decision. It's like putting a gun to your head and putting candy next to it, what to choose? For some reason, everyone will choose a candy
      3. -2
        15 July 2020 13: 20
        Quote: Roman123567
        Well, with whom do we fight?

        with Cyprus !!! northern .....
    2. -7
      14 July 2020 19: 09
      Well, you are the ones who put the minus to you are not friends with your head and are going to drop 1000 of ours somewhere in the Seattle area, or rather the base pla bangor for such grandmothers nafig us these two troughs
      1. +1
        15 July 2020 13: 25
        Quote: Ryaruav
        are not friends with the head

        from your point of view
        Quote: Ryaruav
        drop our 1000 somewhere in the area

        Yes, you never know these areas ... the sea is 90% of the world's transport communications .... who controls the sea, that controls trade !!!!
    3. 0
      15 July 2020 13: 19
      Quote: 7,62x54
      operation is limited to express by analogy with the BDK

      why not use transports for this?
  2. 0
    14 July 2020 14: 40
    "an article very similar to the opus" lol
    "It can be assumed that if the day for laying down new Russian helicopter carriers has already been determined, then the defense industry has also thought about creating other technical means necessary for the effective use of these ships."
    So "thought" wassat that for "Mistrals" their MAIN TOOL (landing helicopters) "capitalized" from "scrap"

    According to this SCAM with UDC:
    1. The fact that the "project budget" will MUCH MORE than the declared one is clear to all specialists.
    2. The purpose of these "white elephants" is to stupidly stand in the base, because the active operation of such ships is very expensive (and even in the USA has strict limits).
    3. The main thing, however, is that without an air force and a powerful floating rear, amphibious operations "on the scale of the UDC" are a gamble, and an extremely dangerous one. But we have neither a combat-ready AB, nor any serious floating rear (the latter does NOT RELATE to the Navy at all, because "the topic was taken away" by the DTO of the RF Ministry of Defense)
    4. NPKB has a very worthy and interesting project of "our Roterdam" (about 15000 tons) for the Corvette power plant, and this is what we need, very close to the ideal, it can be built in large quantities and quickly (+ we need a massive SDK), and actively use in the far field ... Instead - "opupea" with "modGren" (with a "stub" of a normal paratrooper from the same power plant) and a scam with UDC
    1. +2
      14 July 2020 22: 44
      Plagued by doubts about the "mass character"
      In terms of the utility of the UDC, it is only in a bundle, about which "not a hoo"
      Conclusion: projects of Mr. Rakhmanov and others like him
      IMHO
    2. -4
      15 July 2020 13: 27
      Quote: Fizik M
      But we don’t have a combat-ready AB,

      Kuznetsov, not?
  3. Eug
    +2
    14 July 2020 14: 43
    I wonder who and how determined the capacity of the BDK? As for me, this should be a full-fledged battalion with all the equipment and ammunition for the estimated time of the battle, supplemented by a reconnaissance and sabotage company, of course, also with everything necessary. It is clear that I am an amateur, it is interesting to hear other opinions.
    1. +1
      15 July 2020 13: 29
      Quote: Eug
      As for me, this should be a full-fledged battalion with all the equipment and ammunition for the estimated time of the battle

      give the exact numbers, otherwise it is not clear what you mean ...
      1. Eug
        0
        15 July 2020 19: 34
        Alas, I don’t know the numbers. But for specialists, for sure, they are not secrets.
    2. +2
      15 July 2020 16: 35
      depending on what tasks you need to understand which coast to take: front, depth, what forces are opposed
      draw a fire map for a company or battalion, or + tank platoon, etc.
      if we start from 5 km along the front and 5 km in depth, then the MP battalion is already OVER (!)
      * see 3 BMP-3 platoon fire map
      0 wave - reconnaissance: ICRC, UAV, etc.
      + anticipatory attacks by SLCMs with diesel-electric submarines, missile defense systems, corvettes, frigates, BOD, Kreiser pr.1164 (no-fly zone)
      1 wave - on Ka-29 / underwater landing - to the SPN platoon
      2 wave - 3 companies on BMP-3 = 27 units. (these are 27 100-mm guns; 27 30-mm assault rifles; 81 PCs + 162 infantry)
      + aviation support: Su-25SM, Su-24MR, Su-34, Su-30SM, Su-35S, MiG-29SMT
      + strategists can help KLVB - Tu-22M3
      3rd wave - reconnaissance. company 9 BMP-3 + anti-tank platoon 3 ATGM Chrysanthemum + air defense battery 2 SAMs Tor-M2
      + possibly tank platoon 3 units T-80BVM
      + helicopter cover Ka-52, Mi-24/35, Mi-28
      example:
  4. +4
    14 July 2020 15: 02
    You can talk about UDC as much as you like, but not build. An endless source of inspiration for journalists ....
  5. +1
    14 July 2020 15: 20
    In principle, a peppy article, uplifting ....
    There is a project to create the Lamprey marine helicopter, but lately almost nothing has been heard about it.
    ... But this is nothing, the main thing is to assume that the UD bookmarking day has already been determined, probably .. smile
  6. +4
    14 July 2020 15: 26
    immodest question - and escort ships for them .... is there? Or are you planning?
    1. +5
      14 July 2020 16: 03
      Quote: Region-25.rus
      immodest question - and escort ships for them .... is there? Or are you planning?

      You still ask - who will cover the landing from the air and isolate the landing zone. laughing
      1. -1
        15 July 2020 13: 31
        Quote: Alexey RA
        who will cover the landing from the air and isolate the landing zone

        Kuznetsov !!!!!!
    2. +3
      14 July 2020 16: 05
      They are building corvettes, frigates and DERPL, until 2027 when these landing ships surrender, I think they will build a sufficient number of escort ships.
    3. +1
      15 July 2020 13: 30
      Quote: Region-25.rus
      and escort ships for them .... is there?

      maybe an admiral series?
  7. +7
    14 July 2020 16: 06
    Quote: Fizik M
    3. The main thing, however, is that without an air force and a powerful floating rear, amphibious operations "on the scale of the UDC" are a gamble, and an extremely dangerous one.

    I completely agree. For the UDC, an escort squadron is required. But we did not mortgage a primitive destroyer for about 30 years. What will he do and he will destroy everyone. Where will we land the landing?
    We have huge plans. Everyone who makes weapons really wants their piece of cake. There are no Su-57s in the troops, the T-14, and there are no cars on this platform. Any Poseidons, Petrels, a bunch of unfinished plans. There is also a planned update of nuclear weapons, underwater boats, etc. - CAN FINALLY DECIDE, and we will do one thing, at least a hundred will send a serial product to the troops.
    1. 0
      15 July 2020 13: 47
      Quote: fa2998
      , and we’ll do one thing, at least a hundred will send a serial product to the troops.

      does not make sense !!!
      war is a complex measure ... it’s worth missing (weakening) some kind of troops, as soon as a gap is created that threatens the rest of the armed forces.
  8. +6
    14 July 2020 16: 07
    Initially, they did not intend to build UDC in Russia, but the need made ...

    The "need" for such ships in the Russian Navy can hardly be traced ... We do not yet "suffer" from colonies and world hegemony. If we pull it by the ears, then they will still fit for the Pacific Fleet.
    Japan to "stir". For the rest of the fleets - an expensive toy, like the Yamato in 1944.
    1. 0
      15 July 2020 13: 52
      Quote: Doccor18
      We do not suffer from colonies and world hegemony yet.

      well, we don’t suffer yet ... right now we’ll grow the sufferer and start !!!
  9. +2
    14 July 2020 16: 13
    Shaw say .... boom to see.
    And so, if a decision is made, there are resources and finances, we must do it.
    There, here, however tired.
  10. +5
    14 July 2020 16: 28
    The plus is that during the construction of the UDC in Kerch it will make the shipyard in Kerch really "revive". Recreate the entire range of plant equipment and cooperation chains for instruments, materials, etc.
  11. +1
    14 July 2020 16: 37
    Any ships will not be superfluous! The main thing is that their construction does not turn into unfinished construction!
    1. 0
      14 July 2020 22: 24
      Any ships will not be superfluous!

      Any? Will be! They are too expensive to be any.
      1. +1
        15 July 2020 15: 45
        Once upon a time, large ships must begin to build!
  12. -1
    14 July 2020 17: 13
    UDC, of ​​course, is needed, but we cannot even build a destroyer ... We have been building corvettes for half a decade!
    1. -2
      14 July 2020 18: 38
      Due to the lack of orders from the Navy, the destroyers are not building, now the fleet needs other ships from tugs to frigates; everything else will be later.
      1. -3
        14 July 2020 20: 05
        How many years will the destroyer go if we build frigates of 5-6 years?
        1. 0
          14 July 2020 20: 16
          About the same as stealth coatings, armament, radars and other equipment have already been technically worked out and adjusted in production on the same corvettes and frigates, and the latter were built for a long time due to the fact that Ukraine stopped supplying engines and the Germans imposed sanctions on marine diesel engines - but now did on this production will accelerate.
          1. -4
            14 July 2020 20: 40
            Persistent, Perfect and earlier ships were also built for 5+ years. Perfect in general, they built it for almost 10 years, and laid it in 2006, launched it in 2015. With the engines, the troubles went after 2014, as well as sanctions in general.
            Gorshkov (frigate), we did 4 years. Kasatonova - 5 years! Golovko - 8 years! And these are frigates, not corvettes, let alone destroyers!
            Bad dancer, as they say ...
    2. +2
      14 July 2020 22: 28
      It may sound ironic, but a modern destroyer is much more difficult to do than UDC or DVKD.
      1. 0
        14 July 2020 23: 02
        If from scratch, then plus or minus, depending on the configuration. The case is not so difficult to make, it is much more difficult to cram the filling and fix problems with it.
        Naturally, if the displacement is also plus / minus.
  13. -5
    14 July 2020 17: 30
    Sorry Mistral, great project
  14. 0
    15 July 2020 10: 01
    Battle drones are also very useful.
  15. -1
    15 July 2020 16: 52
    Of course "mission doable". I give an idea - to buy a cheap Bonhomme from mattresses at a low price and put it under repair next to "Kuzya".
  16. 0
    15 July 2020 19: 14
    There is a confusion in the specialized media over which of the 3 projects (NPKB, KGNTS and ZPKB) will be under construction. Judging by the news, starting in May this year, we are talking about the ZPKB project.
    On the 1st and 2nd ciphers are not known, for the first time Project 23900 was mentioned regarding the 3rd project (ZPKB), initially without the name of the project. The name "Priboy" was used to designate the UDC project planned for production, i.e. at different times - for each of the 3. The KGNTs project is also named "Avalanche".

    https://vpk.name/news/404488_podpisan_kontrakt_na_dva_universalnyh_desantnyh_korablya_dlya_vmf_rossii.html
    http://forum.militaryparitet.com/viewtopic.php?id=28645
    http://www.ato.ru/content/lavina-prevratilas-v-priboy
  17. 0
    15 July 2020 20: 22
    I’m certainly not a super expert, but in my purely unprofessional opinion, a boat can turn out to be more interesting than the Soviet helicopter carrier Moscow. Interesting machine. For example, I read somewhere that they plan to make it possible to retrain him only as a helicopter carrier. Well, as the author wrote, supposedly there will be an opportunity to replace boats and military equipment with additional helicopters, and use warehouses and some other premises for additional ammunition. And then you can get a variant of an attack helicopter carrier, for example, paired with an aircraft carrier cruiser for striking coastal fortifications and objects to a small outback, or to an anti-submarine ship in the far zone, in addition to Kuznetsov in a pair to control boats near it.
    But even this is not the main thing in my opinion. And the main thing is that if the Gulf is brought to the possibility of building such ships, then it can become the basis for the construction of the same light aircraft carriers and other large fleet ships, and this is very important.
    Yes, and these two UDCs, I really hope that they will not be the last in their class. And in the North there are marines and the Baltic. And such ships will not be completely redundant to them, given the situation with our neighbors, and the fact that the Baltic Sea also becomes almost the main artery for transporting our hydrocarbons to Europe. Yes, and in the Pacific one such boat would not be enough considering the area of ​​responsibility of the fleet.
    Yes, about the application. The channel has material about the Nicaraguan Channel. It just suggested that such ships could be used to protect its construction. Suddenly, the USA will bother China to the point of deciding to implement the idea of ​​such a channel? And we will participate))))
  18. IC
    0
    16 July 2020 10: 08
    A beautiful but expensive project. Just wondering, against whom are they planning to really land an airborne force of 1000 people? True, when it is built, the situation in the world will change two times.
  19. -1
    16 July 2020 13: 18
    Hello, old rake, we want to step on you again. There are no escort forces, there are no mine-sweeping forces, but we will build the UDC. There will be cuts and kickbacks !!!
  20. 0
    17 July 2020 08: 56
    The creation of large-scale melting facilities should be considered as an opportunity to own and use a powerful energy-intensive structure and a base of material and military support. Therefore, in this aspect, new energy devices of various qualities and types of energy are needed. New movers are needed instead of screws at the base. It is necessary to use a complex of various directions of development of technologies for local and remote application. And above all energy technologies.